Tussle With Prof. Asonganyi- Proposed Amendment Of Constitution
- 2 Years Of Unpaid Stipends
- Alleged Poisoning And Witchcraft
- Wife’s Last Days On Earth
Media coverage of the death and burial of Rose Fru Ndi, wife of Social Front, SDF, National Chairman some months back, was undoubtedly carried out with relative in-depth. Fru Ndi's quarrel with his Secretary General, Professor Tazoacha Asonganyi, has, so far, equally received wide media attention. But never since then, has the main actor himself told his own story, with his own mouth and in his own way. 
What is by all means, the untold story of how Rose died, why Fru Ndi and Asonganyi have fallen out, and other intimate party matters has been told in interesting detail by the Chairman himself, in a rare interview, conducted in Ntarinkon, by The Post's Northwest Bureau Chief, Chris Mbunwe. Excerpts:
The Post: Sir, We hesitated coming for this interview given that you are likely still mourning your wife. But then, persistent press reports of a serious conflict between you and Prof. Asonganyi, SDF Secretary General pushed us on. Would you want to confirm or dispel the rumours?
Fru Ndi: As you also hesitated in coming, I also hesitated to grant this interview because you know what I am going through and what I have been going through in the recent past, following the death on my wife. It seems that whenever I am in trouble that is when I am attacked most.
Permit me look back a bit. Shortly after my father died, I received serious attacks from certain NEC members.
I later took ill and two parliamentarians and a medical doctor contributed money and evacuated me to the US for treatment. When I returned to Cameroon, I was again attacked in a serious way that I couldn't believe my eyes. During that evacuation, two airlines refused to take me, arguing that I hadn't enough blood- flow in me to withstand a flight.
Thirdly, when my mother died same attacks were made, with allegations that Fru Ndi was given FCFA 250 million for the funeral. This time around when my wife died, the same attackers were at work.
In this last one, my SG wrote a letter to me, mentioning among many other things that during my wife's evacuation, the CPDM scored a goal against the SDF.
Up till now, he has not been able to explain how this goal was scored. Was I not supposed to accept the money for my wife's evacuation? If I were not to accept the money, then I am bound to ask what contribution the entire SDF made for her evacuation.
Or did some of them want my wife to die here without an effort being made? Even to give me my stipend, which I have not seen for two years, nobody cared.
I now believe that Mr. Paul Biya has outsmarted quite a couple of them. When Rose collapsed in Yaounde on a Friday night, Hon. Mbah Ndam was out of town. We took her to Clinique Fouda, Mbah Ndam heard and travelled to Yaounde overnight.
When he asked me what I was doing about the situation, I told him I was going to Bamenda on Sunday to see whether on Monday and Tuesday I could raise a loan from the bank to book a flight for Thursday so that we evacuate Rose.
He told me that from the look of things, Rose could not survive till Thursday.
That is when he drew the attention of the Council of the Members of Government who are in charge of medical evacuation. I told him that Cameroon being what I know, these people might not sit on Saturday; but to my surprise they sat on that Saturday and by Sunday they had approved and that same Sunday I got to Bamenda, collected my passport and that of my wife back to Yaounde. On Tuesday we left for Switzerland.
But what shocked me about the collapse of Rose in Yaounde in my house is that the SDF Socialist Women had to host the African Committee in Yaounde.
We had to budget for the reception. I am not a signatory to the party's account, but the SG and the Treasurer said there was no money. We examined the budget that the women tabled, with food standing at about FCFA 600.000.
I told them to cut the budget to our limit, arguing that with FCFA 200.000, I could feed more than a hundred people. It was then that the Chairperson of the Socialist Women Mrs. Chantal Kambiwa jumped up and said if they organised the supper in my house, people might have food poisoning.
This shocked me, because for 15 years, my wife had been preparing food for Ministers, Ambassadors, Directors, MPs, NEC Members and many others and nobody ever complained of food poisoning or stomach ache.
After 15 years, a NEC member stands up to say such a thing about a woman who has toiled for the party. I asked the question, if the hotel prepares the food and there is food poison, what would happen? Surprisingly, the SG Asonganyi stood up and said it would be in a hotel, not in my house.
I then told them that if they had enough money, let them go to the hotel and carry out the arrangements for the supper. Later on, they suggested that Friederich Ebert Foundation had agreed to help and they wanted me to intervene.
I met the Director of Friederich Ebert Foundation, who said they could not take care of everything concerning supper. In the end, this arrangement could not work.
Anenmbom Munjo called, telling me to let my wife take care of the supper. I declined, since some people already talked of food poisoning if food was prepared in my house.
So, we left Bamenda to Yaounde on Thursday. On Friday, Rose decided to enter the kitchen and prepare the supper herself and out of pocket. She did this, standing on her feet from 7 am to 7 pm, without a break. The Socialist Women from Nairobi, Equatorial Guinea, Britain, South Africa and elsewhere, were very happy after supper.
The moment for shooting pictures came and they invited me to have a shot together. A few seconds afterwards, I saw my wife on the floor. I took a spoon to put in her mouth, as her teeth were fastened. Before we even carried Rose to Clinique Fouda, she almost passed out twice. Then, she was resuscitated with oxygen and she regained consciousness.
As I mentioned above, the following morning Mbah Ndam contacted members of the medical council in charge of evaluating and evacuating patients. Luckily, they met and evacuated my wife to Switzerland, though she still died. We later brought Rose home.
When we touched down at the Douala Airport, I solicited the SG's assistance; to come with me to Bamenda, so we could, among other things, compile the numerous eulogies and condolence messages we were receiving into a funeral booklet.
I was surprised that my closest collaborator told me he was going to London to monitor the British elections. Whereas, I wrote to the Labour Party that I was going to send my Private Secretary, himself a computer specialist, to monitor the elections so that he learns how data base computerization is done.
But my SG told me he must leave for London. At this juncture, Barrister Ben Muna opted to accompany me to Bamenda to assist me. That too is another story.
When SG Asonganyi arrived London, he never called. When he finished "observing" the British elections, he never returned home immediately. But when he came back, he called me to say he was back.
I thought he was coming up to ask how the burial passed and what we could do. It was after about a month that I instead had a phone call from Justice Nyo Wakai, telling me he received a sensitive letter from Prof. Asonganyi, which he would want us to discuss in a neutral place.
I told him that by our own Graffi tradition, which he should know better, somebody who was still on the floor, mourning his wife couldn't move out until the mourning period was over. He insisted and I told him if we could not discuss the "sensitive issue" in my house, let him forget of it.
He then drove over to Ntarinkon and little did I know that Nyo was inviting me out to judge a rumour. He handed to me a letter from Professor Asonganyi on rumours. When I read the letter, I almost collapsed.
I looked at Nyo in the face and asked him what I have done to him and Professor Asonganyi, that they wanted me to be judging rumours or gossips on my wife's corpse?
As a communicant of the church, I want to state here that I never heard Professor Asonganyi's name mentioned anywhere as having killed my wife. In fact, Professor Asonganyi should apologise to the SDF family for writing such a letter… coming from a man I hold in high esteem.
Even the lady who made the statement before the NEC that if food was prepared in my house there might be food poisoning, nobody has ever mentioned her name anywhere, linking her to the death of my wife.
In the letter, Professor Asonganyi talks of how I said that I attended the death of his 'mad' sister. It is today I am hearing from him that his sister was mad. When I attended the funeral, nothing of the sort came up.
At the funeral, I was given the opportunity and one other person to say something and all speeches were positive.
You have not told us what you and Nyo Wakai discussed concerning the letter Professor Asonganyi wrote.
I asked Nyo Wakai to invite Professor Asonganyi, for him to tell us the source of his rumour. I didn't end there. There is a senior and most respectable friend I have, Mr. Colomanus Mafor. I phoned him and appealed to him to invite Professor Asonganyi, Messrs. Nkemngu, Tandap, Atekwana and Ndobengang, so that they come and we talk things over. Up till date, Professor Asonganyi has not shown up.
But I am very surprised and embarrassed that in the face of death in the SDF, people always take it to ridicule me. We are all passengers on earth and I don't think anybody should use another's misfortune to settle scores.
From attacks launched at me from time to time, from when my father and mother died, to my illness and now my wife's demise, I feel very sorry, because I now see the inhuman nature in some of the people I am working with.
But all this could be traced to the proposed constitutional amendments of Hon. Yoyo that were rejected by some Founding Fathers of the SDF.
Before I come to that, I want to say something about allegations about intimidation, threat to life, either by spiritual or physical eliminations as alleged by Professor Asonganyi.
Let me inform him and many others that if the Founding Fathers of the SDF in the person of Siga Asanga and Ni John Fru Ndi were so chicken-hearted, they could not have signed the final document that brought the SDF into existence.
My wife and I have been tormented every time we were on a tour of Cameroon. Tyres of my car were punctured and the car somersaulted several times; police and gendarmes have harassed us everywhere.
Again, when Fritz Makoge died here, rumours spread that because the gun incident happened in my compound, I had a hand in his death. As such, some people told me not to accompany the corpse for burial.
I told myself that Makoge, being a childhood friend; threats of eliminating me at his burial would not discourage me. Instead, I would be very happy if I was killed at his burial.
I was told that my SG left Yaounde on Thursday, for this burial, which was to take place on Saturday in his own constituency in the Southwest Province. On Friday, we got to Muea, did the wake keeping. I was well received by Fritz's family.
We are so grateful to the Makoge family for their hospitality. We buried Makoge and left, without seeing the SG. This is because he was probably scared of being eliminated. It means that there was some element in his mind, because I was also intimidated and threatened too, but we braved it, only to discover these were mere rumours.
What about the proposed constitutional amendment, which critics and SDF Founding Fathers say, was meant to facilitate your hanging onto power?
I will not address the issue of constitutional amendments now. However, remember every idea that comes up is tabled and debated at NEC. It is only when the issue is above NEC, that it is referred to the party Convention. To say I have a faction of NEC members who support me and others are in support of Professor Asonganyi is not true.
There is no faction in the SDF. As Chairman, I am always very objective. If Yoyo came up with any such thing as constitutional changes, I just think it was his right to do that.
To the best of my knowledge, no such amendment has been tabled before NEC over which I preside. Amendments in the party are not tabled in newspapers and debated in public seminars. As I have said, I will not comment on the issue now.
Let me also put this across that those who think Fru Ndi has outlived his usefulness should not drag me into mud before they take over the party. Most of those shouting and writing denigrating articles about me are people who were called to lead the SDF at birth but they cried of protecting their government jobs.
A good number are still on the government payroll. A front line opposition party leader in a democratic country is put on a good salary. In Cameroon, it is the reverse.
An SDF Party official who teaches in Mr. Biya's University and earns his salary from the Biya government will tell me, CPDM scored us a goal by financing the evacuation of my wife after she finally died.
It is sad. When Biya's wife died, I declared two weeks of mourning. When Emah Basil died, I sent a delegation to Yaounde. Foe Marc Vivien died I attended the funeral in Yaounde with Biya sitting the other way. So I have done all of this to honour humanity.
Before we went out for he Presidential Election of last year, both the Coalition and some SDF people told me: 'Fru Ndi you have come to the end of the road; don't attempt even the SDF Primaries.' Look at the rallies in Bafoussam, Limbe, Bamenda, Kumba, Yaounde, Douala and the Northern Provinces. They were just as full as the 1990-92 campaign rallies.
The massive turnout left those who thought Fru Ndi had nothing to offer with a bitter taste in their mouths. This is the very Fru Ndi who was bold enough to sign for the creation of the party, who is being ridiculed today in the face of death.
Any last word?
Though I was still to go to the press to officially thank those who assisted me financially, morally, materially and gave my wife, Rose, a befitting burial, among who I should mention the following few, CPDM, UNDP, Garga Haman Adji, Jean Jacques Ekindi, Yondo Black etc, I want to say that death should reconcile and not divide us.
The SDF had a painful birth, 15 years ago. If today, some people think they can destroy the party, I want to make it abundantly clear to the Cameroonian people that I am not the one to divide the baby.
They can take the baby without denigrating or insulting me. The National Convention of the party is coming up, so people should go and prepare themselves in their constituencies and be ready to take over.
If tomorrow the SDF succeeds, Fru Ndi shall never be forgotten. Historians will surely mention in their works that Fru Ndi was an embodiment of the SDF. I remain thankful and very, very grateful to all those who have given me their support up to where we are today.
Well Said Ni Fru. When ever you speak, I feel like to cry. You are, and will never be forgotten. True! Those who want to take over the party should come November and take it without dividing the SDF. God is still protecting you as usual.
Posted by: Ace | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 01:34 PM
I am not a member of the SDF; but reading the article presented by Asonganyi and this interview, I strongly recommend that the good Professor renders an apology to the Chairman. Why should a man of Asonganyi standing be producing write ups based on rumour.
The Chairman might still command the respect of Cameroonians, so no fear to organise elections during the next convention. Mr. Fru Ndi, try an election before throwing the towel. I don't think the nation has any leader now to take the leadership of the opposition. Don't give up.
Any body who thinks the contrary should contact me through my email, with his/her reasoning.
Thanks
Billy
Posted by: Billy Nso | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 01:35 PM
This goes to confirm my points throughout. Cameroonians are grateful to Fru Ndi for his courage in the early days but that does not mean that as a result he is above scrutiny.
The chairman of a major opposition party should weigh his words very carefully. Fru Ndi was too emotional in that interview and tried to appeal to public sympathy instead of clear argument. All his accusations against the SG do not hold water. Who is more capable to represent the SDF at the UK elections, the SG or Fru Ndi's private secretary? Does Fru Ndi want us to believe that with all his money and businesses, he needs a loan to evacuate his wife. Fru Ndi says: ''A front line opposition party leader in a democratic country is put on a good salary. In Cameroon, it is the reverse'' I don't know if thats true. Opposition leaders in the West earn from government because they are either MPs, Congressmen or governors. What services does Fru Ndi provide to the Cameroon government.
I still have great respect for Pa John. But my point is that he should not surround himself with quacks who are blind folding him. They tell him that any opposition is a challenge to his position as chairman. I think its people like Asonganyi who hold the future of the SDF. He's a clear headed academic and is one of the SDF's most important assets. He has never left but always tries to initiate change from within. He's indeed a jewel and Fru Ndi should handle him with care
Posted by: Edna | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 01:50 PM
I was clued to my monitor while reading the Fru Ndi article.It is really embarrsing ans shameful that such a thing is transpiring through the SDF 15 years after its creation. we very well know what characterises the tumultuous life of any oppsition party in Africa especially when such a party finds it difficult to grap power. but when in a gathering of the NEC, the body that ensures the day to day running of the party, a woman of Chantal Kambiwa's stature gets up to make such a denigrading statement, i feel sad. It even becomes worse when the S.G of the party gets up to support such an assertion. i am not really saying that Fru Ndi is the Alpha and the Omega. My point is that in politics, the only way to get someone down in not by using the tactics that the above-mentioned NEC members are employing. They should go through the ballot box and bring down Fru Ndi. To the best of my knowledge, Chantal Kambiwa could not win in her Douala constituency in 2002 let alone the S.G who was unable to deliver the goods in Lebialem in 2002. The SDF lost Michael Ndobegang, one of the finest guys in the party, to the CPDM in the lastlegislative elections of June 2002 in Lebialem. Take a look at the press reports and run a list of all those who are screaming against the party. They are either people who have never won any election in Cameroon or people who have not been able to make their points sail through. It is not because they are unable to make their voices heard democratically within the party that they will make outrageous allegations about the Fru Ndi.That is why it is cakled DEMOCRACY. One's point of view must not be forced down the throats of others. When you lose, you try again and it is in your best interest to make better arguments. I know for a fact that 90% of NEC decisions are taken through voting. If the opposition in the SDF are not able to muster anough votes, who are they to blame? What i will tell Chantal and Asongayi is that they should first deliver their constituencies to the SDF before they start making funny alegations against those who have been working out tooth and nail to win elections and save the party from extinction. John Kerry delivered Boston and Edwards could not deliver North Carolina and they lost the elections.
A good friend argued that Asongayi is the best person to monitor the elections. Since the death of Siga Asanga, Asongayi has monitored those elctions several times, yet he has brought no expertise to the table to help the party. One of the greatest problems in Cameroon's electoral process is the fact that we do not know who is who in the voting process. That is why there was a clamor in the last election for the computerisation of the electoral process. Why should Fru Ndi be compelled to send Asongayi to London to work on something he does not have the expertise. Fru Ndi, as mentioned in his interview, wanted his personal secretary to go to London because the latter was a speciallist in data processing. Even if that were not the case, if the Chairman of a party decided to tell hsi subordinate not to attend a meeting irrespective of the reason, the latter should comply.
I have read Asongayi's article and i just read that of Fru Ndi. I really belief Asongayi and his political god father, the respected Justice Nyo Wakai have taken themselves down to infancy.
When the SDF was to face the greatest challenge of its life; not the always rigged elections organised by Biya but the grace d'etat that to be perpetrated by Mahatma Souleymane the then 1st Vice-Chairman with the support of the Secretariat of the Presidency, these guys rumor mongers and political withches were nowhere to be found. On the other hand, those who are being accused today to be cuddling and protecting Fru Ndi are the ones who braces the dangers, launched the assault and saved the party from crumbling. I thinks if they have an idea to sell and they don't have the required votes in NEC, they should take it to the convention where it will be tested.
I rest my case.
Posted by: Godwill Tachi | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 03:01 PM
This interview raises issues that should truely not belong in the public domain.A good leader draws line between personality conflict and matters of policy.
This interview convinces many that the Chairman does not possess the level headedness and composure to lead a complex pluralistic country.
The personalisation of this debate shows that he is capable to using personal disagreement and vendatta to settle purely political matters like the alleged proposed amendment of the SDF constitution.
And for those whose are easy to forget, how come it that the allegations levied against Asonganyi are very similar if not identical to those the chairman levied against Hon Akonteh and many others in the past?
How come it that the party has been so personalised to the extent that to disagree with the Chairman is to be anti-SDF?
I am afraid, at this rate, the SDF will surely demise within the next decade if not earlier.
Posted by: Charles. A Taku | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 03:47 PM
Pa John Fru,
You have done your best. I hope the last paragraph of your interview is a 'mea culpa' of sorts. Let someone else take the relay come the convention which should be soonest to free you from all this trouble. Afterall, is it not often said that it is better to leave the stage with your head high than for the audience to abandon you on stage? Pa Fru, as you rightly stated, your name has been written already in the good books of Cameroon. But your persistent attempt to bolden it could instead lead to its cancellation. Some say there exist something like intellectual menopause and strongly associated Limunga of UB of spreading it. I hope she does not contaminate you and cause your militants to turn against you like her grand children did to her a couple of weeks ago. Why do leaders fail to learn from history?
Pa save us from perpetuity. It is bad; Very bad. We are tired of the Fru Ndi/ Paul Biya chorus. Could you modify the tune for Cameroonians to change their dancing steps. How graceful would it be. We sympathise with you but we can't help. The hand writing on the wall is clear. Read it Pa.
Posted by: Jokwi Jude lenjo | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 05:29 PM
I hope the Post newspaper will allow me this time around to air my views on the SDF saga.I thank the SDF chieftain for pouring out the venom in him.I sympathised not only with him but the entire SDF family for the tragedy that the departure of Mrs Rose Fru Ndi is.I certainly appreciate all that the SDF Chairman has putin and has endured for all Cameroonians.The Chairman in my opinion should definitely not mix up issues.I am sure he has been berieved several times,has his Secretary General stayed aloof or remained indifferent to the other cases or it has been characteristic of him?Did the Chairman want that party activities be put on hold because of the demise of our dear Ma Rose?I am sure Ma Rose herself will not have been very happy about that.The SDF was born to instill a new life for Cameroonians it was born to salvage what was left of a polity going dangerously down the drain. 15 years after that where are we tody?Perharps the Secretary General erred in not calling his the bereaved Chairman until we read his own interview too and that of Kambiwa who equally comes in for a very heavy bashing in the Chairman's interview then can we conclude.It is premature for us to hail Fru Ndi after listening to his own version of the story .It will do us all great service if our own very trusted newspaper the Post interviews Kambiwa and Asonganyi too.But whether the Chairman likes it or not after years of bravery ,after all he has done for the struggle he has been caught by the trappings of wealth which do not go hand in glove with great revolutionaries.With all due respect to the status of the Chairman will the Government have reacted the same way if it was Makoge who collapsed or any other ordinary militant of the party?Does the Chairman honestly believe that a party or government that has stifled the democratic process in Cameroon.rigs elections daily,disrupts SDF party activities ,brutalises and imprisons its militants ,etc will suddenly turn around and bail him out with millions if it did not anticipate to benefit from something in return or simply repaying past favours?No Mr Chairman ,you really want Cameroonians to believe that Mbah Ndam worked miracles overnight and was able to cause the convening of an extra ordinary meeting which resolved to get you and your ailing wife out?If CPDM heavy weights have been unable to pull such a memorable feat then how comes a supposed opposition MP can do that?The answer lies in the simple fact that the gentlemen you rely so much on in the Assembly have been using militants, sympathisers and Cameroonians that we are as bargaining chips to reap enormopus profits from the Government with your covert or overt support .Mr Chairman this was not the case how comes somebody who is the legal adviser of the party,and comes from our province makes a mistake at the Supreme to say that Balikumbat is found in Ocean Division?Mr Chairman you certainly do not remember this or turned a blind eye to it but this was in 2002 at the Supreme and the case of the gigantic fraud and horrendous human rights abuses that accompanied Fon Doh's victory in Balikumbat crumbled like a house of cards.Mr Chairman you want your militants and Cameroonians to believe the learned ,Honorable gentleman from our very Province made a mistake ?Perharps but a deliberate one which serves as a pointer to the fishy games that you have all been playing and that have reduced the party to the miserable level that it occupies today.
Mr Chairman,you are definitely not the only one who has siuffered victimisation,beginning with Souleymane who left ,let us not forget that he sacrificed a job which was fetching him millions a month at SONARA,let no one forget that Rtd Justice Nyoh Wakai whom you also barely fell short of insulting in your interview was equally caged at upstation in Bamenda in the aftermath of the stolen victory of 1992, Dr Tcwenko (RIP)had his multi million clinic constructed with years of pains taking efforts ravaged by agents of the regime because of his die hard commitment to the SDF yet before he died agents of the regime who have infiltrated the party had completely poisoned your mind torwards him and he left in frustration.Mr Chairman ,it is wrong to use the demise of one as dear as a wife to weep up sentiments and make political capital.It is not today that your leadership of the party has been called to question or put to test.Let Canmeroonians not forget that the venerable Albert Mukong of blessed memorial on of the founding fathers declared that if you were to take over the leadership of the country he will go on exile,how comes most of the founding fathers are not in accordance with your style? Instead of working with them you prefer to work with gentlemen of dubious integrity who have been serving as middlemen in the huge tranfer of funds that go on between Etoudi and Ntarikon.It is hard to see in Fru Ndi today the spirited visionry of the 90s .Mr Chairman,do you not think that it is worth while appreciating the efforts of people who render services to the Cameroonian people and protect their jobs?I do not know your Secretary General personally but I understand from the Socialist Chronicle that you so well used to fight others and fragilised the party for selfish ends that he came in to replace that courageous uncle of yours you feel confortable to call today after plotting his dismissal from the SDF because he questioned the records of the huge flow of funds that came in after your your tour of Europe and the USA in 1993.The grapevine says that you completely mixed up funds made available to the party and those meant for Fru Ndi our hero at the time.Members of your NEC and most of your militants are civil servants who besides struggling to ache out a living from the cathecist allowance they received as salaries risk their lives from a regime we all know is merciless.Maybe you would have preferred that everybody indulgies in the practice of receiving occultic funds that you and some of accomplices have become experts in.They should be the heroes today and not those who have indulged in the very practices of the CPDm that led to the creation of the party.
What kind of management does Mr Fru Ndi want to potray when he says that he preferred his private Secretary to monitor the elections in Britain to his Secretary General?Even if the Secretary General was not to be in Britain should the Chairman not even proposed a senior NEC member or one of the founding fathers to sit in for the party in a country as important as the UK whose ruling party is a sister party to the Socialist International?It would certainly have been an insult and a mockery for the friendship between the SDF and the Labour Party for Fru Ndi to send his Private Secretary who certainly is a family relation of his to monitor such a crucial elections which would certainly have serious lessons for Cameroon.Mr Chairman should know that it is certainly difficult to fool all the people all the time.People like Akonteh who fought so much for the party have been pushed to silence and reduced to nothing in the party.Yet people want us to think that concerntrating powers in the hands of an individual will be the solution to the problems of the party.Yoyo who proposed the amendment is certainly no democrat ,I wonder if he formally apologised to the party for seizing SDF party material and arresting Larry Eyong Echaw who was coming in from Nigeria with the material.Yoyo at the time was a Police Commissioner who unlike those who are civil servants today and stick their necks out only joined the party after he resigned as a cop and the first thing he did was to kick out Akonteh who convinced him to join and frustrate Tabali the man who was daring enough to hold the microphone for Fru Ndi to present his address on May 26 while launching the party.Yoyo was again instrumental in the arrest of fire brand militan turned SCNC activist Titahionjoh Stephen who died from severe torture in a Bafoussam prison far from his native Ngorketunjia.This are the type of people the Chairman relies on to run the party.Had it been that all power was converntrated in the Chairman ,it is clear that Tabali Bernard will never have been elected North West Provincial Chairman because he had no money to buy over the hierachy yet despite the hostility of the Chairman towards his candidature and the colossal amounts put in by Yoyo and Mbah Ndam to stop him ,the people still voted for him.Fru Ndi talks of a two year salary have MPs and Mayors not been giving out huge sums to him?On the around the period that his wife fell sick did the Mayor from my area not tell me of how they went to his place with over three million frs meant for the party but which was eventually given as a gift to his Chairman at his insistence?Has the Chairman forgotten that of the millions made available for campaigns in 2002 he got about 60 million frs as his salary plus a new vehicle and lots of other small advantages ?No Fru Ndi should be more serious and stop taking Cameroonians for fools.The death of his wife should not be used as an opportunity to settle scores with those accused of demystifying him as one of the founding fathers who has today fallen out totally with him said.The Chairman if honest to himself as a founding father would have told us if the amendment of Yoyo falls in line with vision of the founding fathers like Justice Nyo Wakai did.No one doubts the fact the amendment is a ploy by Yoyo and co to make Fru Ndi a President for life so that together they can be playing their double games.I am sure that Fru Ndi is not in power today it is because God certainly wants to spare Cameroon the sad experience of been ruled by three dictators.In 1982 we all gave Biya the confidence and our Fons even made to be the Fons of Fons .By 1990 that popularity had completely dwindled to low limits.1990,we all swore by Fru Ndi ,15 years after we cannot recognise the same man ,whereas Cameroonians have grown poorer he has grown richer,where as Cameroonians fall sick and cannot afford basic care ,he is evacuated abroad for treatment just like Biya,whereas those militants who had their businesses closed,who had hands chopped off ,lost their jobs are tody chaffing ,the children and relations of the Chairman are all abroad .Can the Chairman convince us that they did not make public the amount made available by Government only after it was leaked to the press by the Government?Can he refute the fact that huge sums were made available for the funeral?Not that his friend Biya and others in the CPDM of which he was a former parliamentary aspirant should not help him in times of need but when the amount is as colossal as it was it tickles the mind on so many things.I am waiting for the second part of your interview which will certainly be dedicated to Ben Muna since you say the out come of his services to you during the funeral is a different story.Mr Chairman I hope you feel good after that interview and that will stop from insulting newspapers and Journalists ,issuing them with death threats and tearing newspapers to pieces as you did with Socialist Chronicle.Yet here you are using papers to weep up sentiments and deceive Cameroonians as you have done for 15 long years!!!!!!!!!! No you cannot fool all the people all the time.As for Mbah Ndam,Yoyo and co I say to you :NO THANKS FOR YOUR ACTIVE COLLABORATION WITH THE CPDM GOVERNMENT TO MAKE THE KING NAKED
Posted by: Tumasang Nwana Paul | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 05:36 PM
Well Ashia Ni John. Very soon you will hear that your SG is a minister of...... That is the system. Politics of the stomach.
Posted by: Grand stevo | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 06:21 PM
Mr Fru Ndi' place in Cameroon history is no more disputable, insisting on this instead redicles himselve. Mr. Fru Ndi by making such an emotional bias appeal clearly exposes his lack of leadership skills.
Mr. Fru Ndi describes a state Universty as "Paul Biya's Universty" clearly exposes how he personifies SDF as his property. By describing civil servants who work for Cameroon and are paid by Cameroon tax payers as "earning salaries from Paul Biya's government" clearly shows why he consider SDF party members, militants and officials as his servants.
Trying to dodge from Hon. Yoyo constitutional ammendmend exposes how diabolic the intensions are. For information of any person including Fru Ndi if he wishes, he should know that notorous Yoyo's draft constitution was officially tabled in the SDF secretariat in Bamenda last Tuesday, the 12th of July 2005.
On the issue of outliving his usefulness, he insists that people were not there at the painful birth of SDF 15 years ago. A progressive party should look forward rather than look backward. If Fru Ndi wants to look backward insisting that people were out in last presidential campaign, he should compare them with 1992.
It is disgraceful for Fru Ndi to ask for Apology from Prof. Asonganyi eventhough he himself called it rumours. Something is a rumour and not a fact because it lacks a precise source, then which source is Fru and Billy Nso are demanding from Prof. Asonganyi.
Fru Ndi says all the speeches during the funeral of his wife were positive. Of course, I have never heard any negative attributes given to a person after death. I think, it is high time Fru Ndi respect human life and show us that he is different from Paul Biya by truely mourning his wife rather than struggling with public affairs at this delicate period.
It is shocking to hear a chairman talking of sending his private secreatary in place of SG of party. Who is personally closer to him, his PS or SG of party to be at his side during the funeral?
By accepting money from CPDM for the evacuation of the dying wife instead of pressing the CPDM government to build and staff hospitals or recieving 250 million for the burial of the mother, money which better be used in maintaining the unpassable Bamenda roads is questionable.
Mr. Fru Ndi should know that 'It never rains but pours' and whenever, you have a problems, others follow. That is why, if he is beriefed, he should give himself some private time to contemplate and mourn his loved one. May the soul of Rose Ndi rest in peace.
Posted by: Francis Nche | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 06:21 PM
I'm very impressed,how most people have commented on Pa's interview.The fact that people did not portray it as a southwest,north west problem is a plus to our reasoning.Sometimes in life, people agree to disgree and there are obviously two sides of a story.Pa Fru and Prof,you guys are too big for that,how about that.
Posted by: Forcha Aka | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 07:06 PM
Once in a while it is worth it for the Chairman to give frank answers to burning issues. Yes, his answers were truely personal as were the questions being asked. The Chairman has a personal and a political life. He was not giving a policy statement neither was he asked one.On the Constitutional amendment question he gave the interviewer an open check to come back for more. I beleive it is appropriate for us to once in while see the personal and human qualities of the Chairman. The lost of a love one is as painful to you and me as it is to the the Chairman. Please let us for once appreciate and accept the fact that when ever the Chairman stands to speak it is not all politics. He is a person after all not a political robot.
Posted by: Ateh Eugene | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 11:04 PM
Just read the following from someone who stands as head of the opposition:
"An SDF Party official who teaches in Mr. Biya's University and earns his salary from the Biya government will tell me, CPDM scored us a goal by financing the evacuation of my wife after she finally died."
Does the chairman want to say that working with a public university implies working for the CPDM? Imagine him saying that a public university is Biya's university. Are the public roads, primary schools, secondary schools, markets we use Mr. Biya's? If people like Prof Asonganyi and other opposition members working in our public institutions should leave, as Mr. Fru Ndi wants, then who is going to teach the POOR Cameroonians who have no other options than attending cheap public universities? Will these poor Cameroonians be able to go abroad and study medicine in expensive universities like the one having FRu Ndi's son?
I wouldn't made myself a fool by rushing to judgement only after reading what Fru Ndi has said. This would make me one-sided. Until the Professor and many others give us their own versions, I will continue to consider Ni John's version as a mere election campaign. Afterall, he seems to be calling SDF members to his aid during the November elections.
However, going back to history, there are many questions we still have to ask. From Siga Asanga, through Ben Muna, and the many others like Akonteh, etc, etc, etc, why is it that very important personalities within the SDF should, always, be at war with the chairman? No matter what the situation is, the chairman has his own urgly sides in the whole affair. It is not for nothing that all those having trouble with the chairman always accuse him of concentrating powers and always dictating. Was it correct for the Chairman to personally ask his "private Secretary" to replace the Secretary General in Britain? Had he discussed this with the SG before taing the decision?
No one disputes the fact that Ni John Fru Ndi has sacrificed a lot for the SDF. However, this should not allow Ni John Fru Ndi take the SDF as a personal property or make himself a demi-god. No one should also dispute the fact that Ni John Fru Ndi has gained (even financially) simply because he is leader of SDF. The millions that were given him for his wife's evacuation was a preferential treatment just because he is leader of the SDF. The french is renting his building just because he is leader of the strongest opposition party in Bamenda. And the money he collects from the building could have allowed him evacuate his wife abroad.
THERE ARE NO TEXTS IN CAMEROON AUTHORIZING SUCH TREATMENTS.
Posted by: mukete | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 11:05 PM
Frankly this interview frightens me. I have watched and listen to the chairman speak at a rally several times and although he is a brilliant orator, his thinking frightens me.
1. "Paul Biya's Universty"
Why such hatred for Cameroon institutions ?
2.He insinuates that Civil servants are traitors because they are "earning salaries from Paul Biya's government".
The above disqualify him as a leader.
Posted by: Essemo Alenu | Friday, 15 July 2005 at 11:52 PM
The SG better not try to respond or "fire-back". Mr. Fru Ndi's interview is "res ipsa locitur" it speaks for itself. He's over with leadership. My strong advice: don't place a candidature for SDF chairman. thanx for all the work and sacrifice. but, damn, damn, damn, my man, you messed up big time: CUSS is not Biya's, it's yours, its mine, it's theirs, it's everyone's.it's Cameroons
Posted by: Francis | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 01:17 AM
dear postnewspaper. Thanks for airing my own small view.
I think sdf is passing through a trying moment in his history. In the western world this is a common phenomenon.Politicians diagree but keep their parties intact. Tony Blair and his arch rival the Exchequer do not see eye to eye but they came together to win elections for the sake of their parties. Reading Ni's interview he was too personal. While i symphatize with the death of his wife. Ni should know that politics is not a religion. It is game where hard ball is played. Both Asonganyi and Ni should learn how to play hard ball. In hard ball dangerous tactics are used. This is my view. Chris in U.S.A.
Posted by: christian n cho | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 01:27 AM
Am just an observer.History tells that it is only during trial moments that Great Leaders have distinguished themselves.We seem to have a complete contrast in this present crises.Both Fru Ndi and Asonganyi have let their emotions and ego overridden their human nature.
I think the best option that the party should be considering right now would be to have both men step down.
Posted by: Amin George Forji,Helsinki | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 04:37 AM
The chairman has spoken his own side of the story and it is the turn of the SG to speak and letz hear. I think the post is also playing a dirty game here because one of the most critical thing I expected to get from the interview was the fact that the chairman humiliated his SG to read the letter he wrote aloud to the party members assembled in his house that day. Was this a true allegation, the post?
Mukete, I wish you had a house to know whether it is possible to raise from it hundreds of millions each year, let alone in such an emergency situation. You claim to have travelled a lot, hope you know the cost of emergency flight bookings, hospital bills in Europe, hotels, etc. You have always shown in your contributions that you have been consumed by jealousy. Whether who is renting his house has got nothing to do with the case at hand. Suprising that you haven´t mentioned something about "bushfallers" yet.
To those who say the chairman called the cameroonian universities Biya´s, the simple thing there was, I guess, " if you say the money the Government of cameroon gave me was CPDM´s, then, the money you earn is theirs as well" since the same Government that gave me the money, pays you as you too work in "their institution". Got that logic? Honestly, the gov´t in cameroon now is Biya´s gov´t and not a gov´t by the people, of the people or for the people of cameroon. He does what he wants (and not what the people want), and when he wants. We have no choice but to work for the gov´t in order to earn a living, as the SG and many others are doing, and hope to help the country out of this monarchy some day.
Francis, read this and tell us if it is romour "In this last one, my SG wrote a letter to me, mentioning among many other things that during my wife's evacuation, the CPDM scored a goal against the SDF". So see for yourself that the SG wrote a mail to the chairman and that it was not just romour the chairman got. Again what makes you think the SG is the most capable person to go for election monitoring? Any reason for that? Neither should the president or chairman of a party. This issue of prof., Dr. makes many of you think with such titles you know everything on planet earth. No, that is not true. That was same idea the pharisees born, that they have studied many books and hence knew the word of God best, but Christ disproved them. Again using a plane to travel from Y´de to Bamenda, say, does not in any way tell the gov´t that land transport is not necessary as you try to put it with treatment in Europe. No one doubts the quality of health care in the West.
Not supporting chairman here and in no dispute with his SG. There is no doubt that the chairman has weaknesses. They should settle their problems and resign honorably so as to leave the SDF as one family. I wish the party God´s blessings. People should not just be making bla bla bla as supreme judges. Read well and understand issues.
Posted by: Elake | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 05:39 AM
The chairman's interview should not be construed as just an illfated attack against the Secretary-General of the SDF.It indeed gives a rare inside into his management style at this point in time, his stewardship to the party and to Cameroon and his perception of leadership.If one were to judge him by his pronouncements in this interview, I am afraid, he has done irreparable damage to himself forgetting to know that Cameroon and indeed the international community are watching him and other presumptious leaders as Biya moves towards the evening of his devasting misrule.Here under is why.
The chairman's main complaint is percuniary; namely, that he has not recieved his stipend for two years.And it is here that the ''CPDM indeed scored a goal.
This goal scoring is linked to the management of the evacuation of the Chairman's wife whom all men of good will must confess was a collosus in her own right not just the unassuming rule she is relegated to in the interview.It was her examplary frontline militancy in effect, which was the rationale for many women flocking into the SDF.She was very much like the Anna Foncha of the SDF. This had nothing to do with she preparing meals for the reception of some delegates; a role which according to Miss kambiwa should be handled by the appropriate organs of a democratic party in a modern democracy.
The chairman was right to have had recourse, as every Cameroonian should, to the appropriate government organ for the evacuation of the wife.This was commendable and exemplifies him as a caring husband and a respecter of the sanctity of life.
He however went wrong in two respects thereafter.Namely, that he politicised this public service that every citizen in that condition at law is entitled to as well as failed to show examplary accountability in the management of the funds provided from the public treasury for that purpose.By congratulating the CPDM, he fell into the ploy in which Biya and his crime syndicate have hookwinked most cameroonians into. This is almost always the case when citizens and whole communities are provided basic amenities and services from the public treasury and then the CPDM and Biya claim credit. Congratulating the CPDM not only politicises this public service but vindicates the CPDM policy in this respect. It is a real blunder because the CPDM prostitues the allocation of public services for votes and loyalty to Biya.
Again upon his return from Switzerland, the chairman gave an account of how he used the funds during a church service the very night in Douala.He used the balance of the funds to buy airtickets for his children and other neccesities. The chairman knows that this was wrong. A John Ngu Foncha or a Jomia Perfock would have presented his statement of expenditure to the vote controler from whose budget the funds were appropriated and returned the balance to the public treasury.That would have portrayed him as one who will rule differently from the CPDM.If he had proper advisers or was willing to listern to critics who said the CPDM had scored a point, he might have corrected this situation.There is no way the CPDM will not use his misjudgement to assail him at the appropriate moment.Again to suggest that he prefered his private Secretary to the Secretary-General to monitor the British Elections at the invitation of Labour party and to say so publicly is a blunder for which he will regret later.
Finally, the chairman must be reminded that to progressively take over the government his party seeks to replace, he needs to lead by example. The onus is on the chairman to prove that he is different from Biya. To this end, he should not give the impression that he is abrasive, illtempered, vindictive, dictatorial, undemocratic, superstitious and incapable of drawing a line between his position of chairman and his private afffairs.The inability to do so is the bane of African leaders.To this end, attempts to transform the SDF into a CPDM biss by seeking an amendment to allow for the chairman to appoint members of NEC as a means of countering internal dissent which is the gravamen of his disagreement with the SG will do him more bad than good. So also the inability to draw a distinction between a party function and his private function in his home like the food preparation he subjected his wife to shortly before her unfortunate illness which he now blames on others due to his his own misjudgement.
I do not in this respect accept disrespect and the use of foul langauge against the Chairman or any one at all. But that is another issue which a great leader should have reserved for internal discussions instead of bringing to the public domain in a major interview in a major newspaper.
The Chairman should know that populist charisma is a blessing to good leadership but may also be the cause of it's undoing if not appropriately harnessed.
Except the Chairman exhibits sterling qualities of good , martured and principled leadership by eshewing this manner of managing conflicts within his party from becoming the hallmark of his leadership, then as soon as another charismatic leader emerges even within the CPDM which is possible, then he can begin to sing his own political dirge. Let him look at what has happened to Augustine Mrema of the Tanzanian Labour Party and Professor Ibrahim Lipumba of the Civic United Front with the rise of Mrisho Jakaya Kikwete within the ranks of the CCM.
Mr Chairman, the world is watching . You may not have the beifit of doubt eternally.
Posted by: charles Taku | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 06:07 AM
The man has guts,but no gumption.He has come to his own with this interview,he can offer no more.We thank you immensely for the courage you had to launch the SDF,but the SDF has been launched.Courage ain't so important anymore,strategy,tactics and professionalism are needed.Please, leave that to the folks who have those skills,you haven't got them and that is not to say you are no longer useful.
If the wife of a Cameroonian in Garimbongo needs evacuation,how does he go about it? You are loaded enough to evacuate your wife,self pity does you no good,sir.Evacauation in this case was apparently not recommended by a medic.Do you and Mbah have the credentials to decide on an evacuation? Could the hospital in Douala not handle it?
Why is fru Ndi always wrapped up in rumours and innuendos of poisinings,witchcraft and death? The man is just a regular 'quartier' bloke like most not-so educated Cameroonians.We do not need such a leader.We need an urbane ,educated and intelligent leader like Mbeki of SA.Pa,retire honourably,now!
Posted by: Courtney Eko | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 07:23 AM
This is the end of SDF and Fri Ndi. On the epitaph it will be written " Here lies the Chairman, who braved it on 26 May 1990 and gravely gaffed there after"
Posted by: Dyna Ngoy | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 09:08 AM
Fru Ndi is human after all ! He is not an abstract theorist from Oxbridge.
He reminds one of Margaret Thatcher - a strong personality who combines emotions with issues of public policy. "... can't talk politics when your electric bill has not been paid, madam has no food money, ... folks..."
Like Mrs Thatcher, the SDF Chairman emphasizes the "nitty-gritty" to mean the little elements that form the whole. You cannot skip all that. Prof Asonganyi should account for himself !
Elvis Tiku
Cambridge, UK
Posted by: Elvis Tiku | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 09:24 AM
TO THE POST MANAGEMENT
Although I would always thank you heartily for the services you are providing, I should be frank to tell you that you still have to be just in the way you manage the contributions that come in. I am forced to believe that you are encouranging one-sided reporting.
From your many reactions, it is clear that you want contributors to be addressing only issues raised and not directly attacking other contributors. This is very understandable. The problem, however, is that you are not correct in the way you manage this aspect of your job. Why would you come in to bring order only after someone who has been directly attacked try to defend what he thinks? Why not bring order immediately a contributor is directly attacked?
I want to refer you to the contribution of the person who has decided to use the name "ELAKE", and in particular to his above contribution of July 16, 2005, ay 05 .39 AM.
On paragraph 2 of his contribution, he directly attacks my person, MUKETE, and not the issues raised. Still in paragraph 3, he directly attacks Francis. Till now, uou seem not to have observed this. You are only waiting for us to respond to his attack before you come in to "bring order". And it is no co-incidence that the said "ELAKE" stands solely for Ni John Fru Ndi, whereas Francis and I think that he, also must share some blames.
After many contributions here, you have interviewed Ni John Fru Ndi. We are anxiously waiting for another interview with ALL those involved in the mess currently going through the SDF: Professor Asonganyi and Mrs. Chantal Kabiwa especially. Even then, these people might decide NOT to wash the party's dirty linens in public.
While we enjoy using your services, we would like you to be objective and just in the way you manage this forum.
Taking away contributions which you find hostile does not help especially if you maintain other hostile articles. The way you are doing this, is forcing other contributors to be changing names or using different names to send in the SAME message.
Thanks for the good job and for your understanding.
Mukete
Posted by: mukete | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 09:51 AM
From this article I can conclude that Mr Fru Ndi is a true leader, one who is ready to sacrifice for what he believes in.
His wife and family have sacrificed a lot for the SDF cause, yet what I see is the ingratitude and selfishness of humanity revealed in the minds of those SDF people who keep insulting him and calling for his head. These people are not capable of a fraction of the sacrifices that Mr. Ndi has made.
I must say that Prof. Asonganyi has come out of this very poorly. He has treated Mr. Fru Ndi like a child. If there is anyone who should be departing it should be Prof. Asonganyi.
Mr Fru Ndi, accept my condolences for the death of your beloved wife. And keep up the good work!
Posted by: Dr A A Agbormbai | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 09:59 AM
I urge all readers to put their emotions aside for just a moment, put a cover over the name of the interviewee, and read this interview as if they did not know the person who gave it. Then ask themselves the questions "will I want this person to guide my destiny and speak for me in international gatherings?" In my judgment the Fru Ndi is not suited for the job of president of Cameroon and the majority of Cameroonians know it. If the SDF dreams of winning a presidential election in Cameroon, it is time to start looking for someone else. Somebody who is secure enough to take criticism without personalizing it. Someone who knows that leadership means getting others to want to do what you want them to do; not forcing people to do what you want. Someone other than Fru Ndi. He does not have the temperament for such a job.
Posted by: Eyale Babe | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 10:12 AM
Ateh Eugene
You have made a brilliant point!
Posted by: Dr A A Agbormbai | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 10:28 AM
I want to thank Pa Fru,for quite some time we have only been hearing about S.G and Co. We now know what is happening for in any democratic society the people must know in full detail what is happening in case of misunderstandind amongst those who lead us. We are not in the cpdm style in which no body knows what is happening but yet you see people claim to be cpdm people.Pa you are not wrong for when I read people saying that pa was not suppose to be out spoken as a leader then I begin to ask my self where we are driving to . What I will like to tell fellow readers of this paper democracy is a game of numbers and not how far you have gone to school. If we make a suvey in all democratic counytries today we will count the number of professor and doctors as president. So people should not be carried with the fact that the S.G is a prof. Let him go and win in his own constituency before we will hear him. Fru Ndi is a god send for what ever people say you can not start a cause and abandonned it at mid way.Look around in other countries and you will tell me. If Pa should sucuum to presure and abandonned this course, then he must have betrayed so many cameroonains. If we want to do politics lets go ahead and do it.Politics is not war but a game of different opinion. Taking money from cpdm or not does not mean changes once opinion. Pa may god bless you and continue to fight the battle till you win and you shall win. Today we are facing the situation of Jesus who was send by god and the pharesis who taught they knew all in the planet yet jesus disproved them all
Posted by: Tamu E | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 10:51 AM
Mukete, honestly speaking if cameroonians were to vote their most stupid and foolish citizen, you will have a landslide victory.You are very shallow minded and I wonder if you have ever for once, considered the fact that THE POST pays for this bandwidth that you waste.
Posted by: jike | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 11:22 AM
I should start by expressing sincere condolences to Fru Ndi and his entire family!
That being stated, i think its a shame, for people held in such high esteem to reduce themselves to a kindergarden level. Fru Ndi has been chairman for far too long. We appreciate the change he tried to bring forth, but it is clear that he is too emotional and generally unfit to take up the task of leading that party, not to talk about leading cameroon. WE need a new opposition, new voices, and people wiht a vision. It is not enough to oppose the current regime, what would you do differently, and that is 1 thing SDF chairman has never addressed. Until the opposition get their act together, i will vote for the devil i know!
Posted by: Koko | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 11:37 AM
Charles Taku: You are 200 percent right in your analysis. But there is a problem. You were reading the interview in English! If your translate it into the language of the street in CMR, u will realize that this is exactly what the BUYAM SELLAM, the SAUVETUEURS, the TAXIMAN wants to hear. I am in no way denigrating this class of people but you cannot win elections in CMR without appealing to them and speaking their language. You will have to talk and seem to reason like them. You will have to make insinuations on witchcraft, the supernatural, rumours and sonsense talk or they will not understand you.I have attended rallies and Fru Ndi talks of his invincibility in the face of fireams, visions of what to come and this is what his followers understand. To get a leader who appeals to the common man and me and at the same time fits Eyale Babe criteria (which i support)is our main challenge. There are two Cameroons: The one you charles taku, Siga asanga, Ben Muna & Dyna Ngoy fit in and the one Lapiro de mbanga represents.
Posted by: Essemo Alenu | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 11:53 AM
Jike, is there any difference between you and a piece of YAM? Is there any difference a dead decaying corpse with you? You better stay where you are and feed from the benefits of a refugee. When I travel I use my documents - not others. Fortunately for Cameroon someone like you who has enslaved himself through political asylum can not come straight to Cameroon. You dish washer. You refugee!
You do not need to flatter The Post in order to use this forum. Fortunately for you, you do not use your correct name here.
Posted by: mukete | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 12:50 PM
hello to all Cameroonians in and out of the country.I t is really clear that there is political trouble in the country both on the government side and on the opposition side.Thanks to Ntumasang Nwana Paul for ur comments. You really hit the nail right on the head.I don't know u personally but u really sound like an inside the beltway guy who really understands in depth what is going on in the SDF. Also ur criticism are not vicious they are supported by facts and u do recognize the contributions of the chairman while at the same time criticizing him. That is good.
In any case what do I think about the chairman? I have to first all applaud the achievements of the chairman. He has done quite a bit for this party and sacrificed his life in many instances. That is something that demands special recognition. I know that when u look at his leadership style there are certainly lots of questions to be asked. Even his financial accountability has a huge question mark on it.It is fair to say that all what has been said about him is not just rumor,where there is smoke there must be at least some red charcoal if not fire. To go straight to the point, I believe the honorable chairman despite all what his has done for the party is now suffering from the effects of staying too long in power and in the public eye. There are those who say he was elected not chosen, not a dictator. Yes, Hitler also came to power by election. Elections are just the lesser of two evils when u compare it to appointments. Just because somebody was elected does not automatically make him a good leader nor does it make him leader for life. No matter the chairman's best intentions right now it cannot help. It is better for him to leave right now and save his good name rather stay there until it is completely damaged. He could serve as party adviser in some form shape or capacity. That will still be a contribution to the democratic process. There are many unnamed heros and heroins in Cameroon who are not leaders nor will they ever be who contribute immensely to the democratic struggle we have in Cameroon. My dear Cameroonians, what ever happened to 'TERM LIMITS'. It seems as if nobody knows about them in Cameroon or in most of Africa. People look at political positions as chieftains. I think that should be the SDF slogan from now on "TERM LIMITS , TERM LIMITS, TERM LIMITS , TERM LIMITS, TERM LIMITS etc." We need to instil this into everything that requires an election in Cameroon if not Africa as a whole. This should become part of our culture. No body is indispensable. For those who are christians even Jesus christ was on earth only for a short time given the fact that he is God. Everybody has something to offer in Cameroon. Some say the end of the Chairman is the end of the SDF, that is not true, how do we know? There are many talented people in and out of the country, all they need is a chance to get elected and they will be elected. Like it or not one day the Chairman will be nomore just like everybody outthere. I do not wish for that to happen but lets be practical it is a possibility. The chairman even with all the money and 'support' he got from the present regime could not save his own wife from death. One could argue that by Cameroon standards, the Chairman and his wife are celebrities. Being celebrity is no guarrantee against tragedy as we have seen. I sincerely believe that the Chairman should save the PARTY NOW BY NOT RUNNING FOR ANOTHER TERM ANYMORE EVEN IF HE IS POPULAR. 15YRS IS A LONGTIME BY ANY ACCOUNT, 15 MORE YEARS OF FRU NDI WOULD HURT RATHER THAN HELP. THE CAMEROONIAN PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF BOTH THE GOOD AND THE BAD THAT HE HAS DONE. THAT IS SIMPLY THE WAY DEMOCRACY WORKS. WHILE WE SYMPATHIZE WITH THE CHAIRMAN OVER THE DEATH OF HIS LOVING WIFE, WE WISH HIM NOTHING BUT THE BEST RETIREMENT EVER. NOW, WHAT SAY U CAMEROONIANS OUT THERE?
Posted by: Dr.Dolittle | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 01:11 PM
Mr. Jike,
It is true that the Post pays for the bandwidth but don't forget that the post benifits from the powerful ideas from the commentators free of charge. While the commentotors have the opportunity to express their point of view in issues of national interest, the post gets world wide free correspondences from benevolent reporters all over the globe. This is therefore a 'win-win' situation. If the Post stops their commentary sections,I am sure it will likely loss more than 75% of their online readers.
For me, there is no stupid contribution, there are only stupid readers and therefore for Mr. Jike to say nobody should waste the bandwide is placing himself in the other group.
Posted by: Francis Nche | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 01:15 PM
To the person who has decided to use the name "Mukete"
who now fires more insults to people? You calling Jike all of those names when you know him not? Please, apologize to that guy/girl. Let alone your attacks on "bushfallers" or those living in North America, etc. Try to practise what you preach man. For your information I did not attack Francis, I barely tried, in the best way that I could, to contradict some of his points positively.
Peace
Posted by: Elake | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 02:02 PM
Chairman Fru Ndi has really confirmed my fears for a long time now that beyond the face which pretends to understand the problems of Cameroonians ,there may be trends of vicious dictatorships and machiavellic inclinations.Despite the wave of high profile dismissals,reports of corrupt practices etc I had always thought that no Chairman Fru Ndi should not be lumped with the likes of people of little credibility like Hon Mbah Ndam and Yoyo .The first thing that struck me and made me to come back to my senses was the count down to the elections in the North West Province.A paper called the Socialist Chronicle a fabrication of Mbah Ndam used in the past by him ,Yoyo and Fru Ndi to settle scores with political opponents ,suddenly turned around and pointed the muzzle at the Chairman accusing him of all sorts of things that made unpleasant music to the ear.Despite strong evidence by the paper to show that the out going Provincial Chairman despite his closeness to Fru Ndi and his camp was a notorious feyman,the Chairman stuck religiously to him and I was amazed tosee the huge sums displayed by Yoyo and Mbah Ndam to get the incumbent re-elected just to protect their personal interest.It was difficult to understand that this was the same party which lack funds to go in for elections and some cadres were heavily indebted for loans incured during the last presidential elections.Surprisingly even on the floor the Chairman made open campaigns for the incumbent but to remind him that militants were no longer so dump ,Tabali Bernard the man they all hated carried the day.Paradoxically the man Fru Ndi and co did not want for Provincial Chairman is the man who held the microphone for him to read out his speach when the party was launched on May 26 in Bamenda with the lives of six innocent souls as the price.I am sure with the powers to appoint this man will never have been Provincial Chairman because like most of us he is poor and does not have enough money to rub the lips of the Chairman.
The Chairman in that interview which discarded the last respect I may have had for him said he appointed his Private Secretary to go and monitor elections in a country as important as the UK and not his Secretary General!!!!!By this the Chairman gives the impression that since he has amassed enough wealth for himself through his games with the regime,he no longer cares about whether or not the party takes power tomorrow.It is really bizarre that Fru Ndi will prefer his private Secretary than the SG or another leading member of the party to do such an exercise.This are the type of appointments that Yoyo want the Chairman to make when he is invested with absolute powers in the 21st century.In the interview I could see in the Chairman a true picture of the man who will afford to tear a newspaper to pieces in his compound because it is critical of him.The Chairman went as low as tearing the Socialist Chronicle in his compound and threatening Journalists with death.Despite all what the press has done for him including misleading Cameroonians ,the Chairman could insult the legacy of people like Jerome Gwellem ,refer to our hard working journalists as beggars and miserable people and issuing death threats to them.The same Chairman is here today using the same Journalists to weep up sentiments to get his way through as he has done each time he faces problems in his party.That Fru Ndi is unable after 15 long years in office to distinguish between issues related to him as a person and those that are related to the party is most unfortunate.That thye Chairman of a party which wants better health care for Cameroonians will turn around and refer to his Secretary General who braves the wrath of a vicious regime and continues to help train badly needed Doctors as working for the Government is most stupid and silly on the part of the Chairman.Perharps he thinks Cameroonians do not know the source of the immense wealth he has acquired over the years and continues to acquire,Cameroonians are no strangers to the fact that Mr Biya has been rewarding the Chairman abundantly for all he has done to help him stay on.That interview exposed the Chairman as one incapable of managing the country.If the SDF wants to move forward,then the leadership must move to someone who is more dynamic,some one who is more visionary,some one who does not see Biya as a model etc.Fru Ndi refused to answer the question on the the amendment proposed by Hon Yoyo yet everyone knows that the Chairman stands solidly for such a proposal.Did he not declare in March that since Biya appoints and dismisses cabinet Ministers he too should have the right to appoint and dismiss SDF members of the bureau of the National Assembly?Mr Chairman you do not need to remind Cameroonians of what you have gone through to justify your continuous unproductive stay at the helm of the party.Everyone knows that,but remember that so many other people have equally paid a heavy orice too and con tinue to make sacrifices.Perharps you have forgotten that people had hands chopped off by grenades and are beggars today while you live in affluence.You grabbed 60 million as your salary a few years back from money meant for campaigns,they did not,you got a new car ,they did not,your children are abroad in good schools,theirs are unable to go to school,you get huge sums from elected officials of the party like the MPs and the Mayors ,these people do not,the list of sacrifices made by people is endless and I hope you are honest enough to admit that.I her your guys want the convention in Bamenda,Mr Chairman why do you want to make the party a regional or provincial affair?The last two conventions have taken place in Bamenda and it would be fair if it is hosted by other provinces too or are you so scared of elections taking place in a different place other than your fief?Mr Chairman like one of the contributors said it will be good if your interview is a mea culpa,the hand writing is very clear ,you have attained the possible highest limits of your potential and it should be time to bow out with some honour and I must confessed that it is dwindling as fast as that of Biya if not faster.I have never heard that Biy tore a newspaper or that he ridiculed himself and the party the way you did in that interview.God save the SDF
Posted by: Ngwa Niba Festus | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 02:41 PM
My Dear Compatriots,
I am really glad that a good number of Cameroonians have the analytical skills to make good judgements when it comes to their leaders. Gone are those days when 'anybody' could wake up and say anything and people will just believe him without any prejudgement.
If nobody's picture and name were attached to this interview, I WOULD HAVE ATTRIBUTED IT TO A 'SHARIA LAW' GRADAUTE.
God Bless My Beloved Country and those who live in it.
Posted by: Herbert | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 04:24 PM
This is to show how backward Cameroon is. Wake up country men. We cannot folds our hands and let a stark illitrate lead Cameroons biggest opposition party. That's why they keep loosing support. Open your eyes, Fru Ndi is there to get rich and power hungry.
Posted by: Ray | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 05:02 PM
Fellow Cameroonians, Can somebody outthere tell me why there is not a financial investigation or auditing of the SDF chairman and top members of the SDF to see whether these allegations of corruption/embezzlement are true or false. I suppose we have a right to know what the Chairman's salary is and then we can judge from how much he is getting from renting out the building to the French etc. I think all SDF militants should be demanding that before the November Convention. And if the Allegations turn out right punishment should be mented accordingly.What say you my dear Cameroonians?
Posted by: Dr. Dolittle | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 05:09 PM
what right do you have to know the Chairman's salary. Why don't you go to your seat of government in Yaounde and demand an audit of Biya or his minister's finances.
You want Fru Ndi to be prosecuted for mismanaging funds.Dr. Dolittle, as your name sounds, you certainly are not from the Cameroon that I know.Take time to reflect before posting your articles.
Posted by: Geo | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 05:49 PM
Ray,
if you consider Fru Ndi a stark illiterate and by implication, yourself as a stark literate, my advise to you is form your own political party and deliver us Cameroonians from our backwardness.
Ask yourself this question: did Fru become chairman of the SDF by lottery? How come Fru Ndi has time and again beaten your so called intellectuals in every single political battle but for fraud. Ask the likes Dr. Paul Biya,Dr. Ndam Njoya,etc.etc. and they will tell you how illiterate Fru Ndi is.
Posted by: amob | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 06:00 PM
Fru Ndi accuses the SG because he is a professor at the uni of yaounde. Mr Fru Ndi it is not Biyas university. Which is worse teaching at the university of Yaounde or renting your building to the french who inturn keep Biya in power and exploit all anglophones. So Fru Ndi is aiding and abetting the the french terrorist of Chirac and Biya. Thats why he refuse to join the SCNC struggle. He is all about getting paid. Fru Ndi and Biya are all the same. the only difference is that Biya is more educated. folks look at the kind of language used by fru ndi in this interview, it reflects the man himself. put him under pressure and his illitracy comes out. He is a great champion for what he did in the 90s but he should quit, and not be forced out. The SDF should lead by example. we dont have to undemocractic like the CPDM.
To Mr Fru Ndi and his supporters why should a private secretary go to monitor elections instead of the SG. for your information opposition leaders dont get paid salaries by the govt in western democracies. Name one. Please do your research or have your private secretary research it for you. dont use your wife to draw sympathy against your fraudulent acts.
Posted by: Ray | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 07:05 PM
When this issue of constitutional amendment first came on this forum.Some of us wrote and were criticised of been regionalistic and lacking inside.
After reading the articles of Tumansang, Niba festus, Dr Dolittle and many more, I think the message is very very clear even to the unborn child and to livng Thomases.
Nobody, I mean nobody will refuse the sacrifices Ni Fru has made, which equally many have done also, even more..at times the surpreme sacrifice.
The hand writing is clear on the wall, Pa leave the stage, try not to make your name too bold as somebody rightly put it for in attempting that, you may erase it. Too many allegations, stepping down at this stage will put some of the facts under the carpet which may actually be helpful to your image. Don't be the fly that follows the corpse to the grave.
Your interview to me tells me, you are a good artivist but not a leader in any form of the word.
He who has ears should hear.
Posted by: Stanley | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 07:26 PM
Dear readers;
I enjoy all your analytical skills. A lot of the people in this forum are thinking in their own way and are probably dreaming about Cameroon Politics and what it takes. That is good. The simple truth is that, most of all criticism labeled on Fru Ndi especially is not true. The only way this can be proven is in November. Mukete, Nche Francis and others should bring fourth their candidate(s) and challenge Ni Fru and if they don’t win, Then, all what they have said in this forum is merely a Loud Sounding Nothing. Please stop being Jealous of Ni, his family, his investments(If you want a share of it, just ask. You may be adopted in to his family) and others. If some of you want to be called Honorable, go and campaign for it. If some want to be Chairman of SDF, Ask Ben, and all those whom have tried and failed and they will tell you what type of a politician Fru is.
Francis Nche you always have one story that you repeat in this forum about Hon. Yoyo. Do you have a personal problem with this man? If anyone want to criticize any politician be it Biya, Fru, Ndam be courageous enough and go to Cameroon and form a political organization so that you can speak with some grounds. Play hard ball at home and not through a press commentary box. Those who want change should instead of playing the blame game on Ni, should spare head it(change). At a point in time some fellow was talking about war. I laugh
Don’t just get up from bed where you have your three square meals a day and write a dream on the Internet and think that it is reality. In Cameroon we face reality and Chairman Ni Fru still have our support and when time will come when we don’t need him we will vote someone else. We are almost finished with the NEC Meeting and chairman will leave for his vacation soon.
FRU NDI YOU STILL HAVE OUR SUPPORT.
Posted by: ace | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 07:49 PM
Dear RAY,
I never saw a stupid and nonsensical idiot as RAY who posts rubbish stuff and spam whenever an important article is up.he is confusion-setter-flimsy and fictitious.
I have gotten information that he is a JANJAWEED just brought from Dafur by cpdm lords to be used for some terrorist acts.
He is one of those rumoured to have been used to terrorise students during the Buea strike-SHAME!!!!!!
Please,stop setting up confusion....
Ray,U are unqualified to post comments in a site like this.Go to iraq or sudan and find your place.
Posted by: TOM CRUISE | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 08:28 PM
Ace
will the vacation be paid by Biya or you.
Posted by: Ray | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 08:33 PM
Ray,
Sorry to pick on you but how could anyone bypass your comments?It is disheartening for you to refer to John Fru Ndi as a Stark Iliterate.You need to apologise immediately.Before he came out bravely to introduce multipartism,there were educated people, so he needs to be recognized for his bravery.This forum should be used for constructive criticisms and not unwarranted insults.
I will second Pa Fru Ndi in referring to Cuss as Biya’s university and as a matter of fact,Cameroon is yet to become a country..Curse me all you can but it is the bitter truth..It is Biya’s property.Until,Cameroonians are given the opportunity to take part in key decisions in that country,it remains his sole property.. If not,Impeach him from power.How can he afford to win elections all the time eventhough we all know the truth??Ahaaa…Same reason..Biya’s country..There are millions of Cameroonians out there as someone called them refugees who are actually in that situation because they have no choice.
As a matter of fact,we should be dealing with the issues of Cameroon at a higher level if our voices can be heard by the United nations.I don’t belong to any party but I very much appreciate what the chairman has done.Not withstanding,I think he has fought enough and should step aside in a dignified way so that the more energetic people can move the party forward.It is not easy to let go of a baby .Majority of our rural people who cannot read or write know no other person than Ni so he can continue to be in the limelight in a different way so that,they can be assured that their interest is protected.
For those accusing him of accepting millions to evacuate his beloved…my dear medical evacuation is not same thing as taking guaranti to the different parts of Cameroon..It has been a trying period for him and irrespective of his tactfulness as a leader,let us reflect on the void he feels within as a human being.Remember powerful Mandela expressed his feelings by dumping Winnie Mandela so even a superman has feelings.Point taken,he expressed that a little bit too much but it is within human standard.
After all said,as we struggle to free Cameroon from dictatorship,let our leaders do so in one voice because fighting amongst themselves will only strengthen our dictator who might be training his son to be your next president..Act fast in one voice SdF
Stay blessed
Long live SDf
Long live Freedon fighters
Keep hope alive for we will all go home someday not as refugees but as productive citizens to build our nation for there is no place like home.
May mama Rose RIP
Thanks
Posted by: crystabelle | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 09:45 PM
Ray,
Sorry to pick on you but how could anyone bypass your comments?It is disheartening for you to refer to John Fru Ndi as a Stark Iliterate.You need to apologise immediately.Before he came out bravely to introduce multipartism,there were educated people, so he needs to be recognized for his bravery.This forum should be used for constructive criticisms and not unwarranted insults.
I will second Pa Fru Ndi in referring to Cuss as Biya’s university and as a matter of fact,Cameroon is yet to become a country..Curse me all you can but it is the bitter truth..It is Biya’s property.Until,Cameroonians are given the opportunity to take part in key decisions in that country,it remains his sole property.. If not,Impeach him from power.How can he afford to win elections all the time eventhough we all know the truth??Ahaaa…Same reason..Biya’s country..There are millions of Cameroonians out there as someone called them refugees who are actually in that situation because they have no choice.
As a matter of fact,we should be dealing with the issues of Cameroon at a higher level if our voices can be heard by the United nations.I don’t belong to any party but I very much appreciate what the chairman has done.Not withstanding,I think he has fought enough and should step aside in a dignified way so that the more energetic people can move the party forward.It is not easy to let go of a baby .Majority of our rural people who cannot read or write know no other person than Ni so he can continue to be in the limelight in a different way so that,they can be assured that their interest is protected.
For those accusing him of accepting millions to evacuate his beloved…my dear medical evacuation is not same thing as taking guaranti to the different parts of Cameroon..It has been a trying period for him and irrespective of his tactfulness as a leader,let us reflect on the void he feels within as a human being.Remember powerful Mandela expressed his feelings by dumping Winnie Mandela so even a superman has feelings.Point taken,he expressed that a little bit too much but it is within human standard.
After all said,as we struggle to free Cameroon from dictatorship,let our leaders do so in one voice because fighting amongst themselves will only strengthen our dictator who might be training his son to be your next president..Act fast in one voice SdF
Stay blessed
Long live SDf
Long live Freedon fighters
Keep hope alive for we will all go home someday not as refugees but as productive citizens to build our nation for there is no place like home.
May mama Rose RIP
Thanks
Crystabelle
Posted by: crystabelle | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 09:46 PM
Mr. Ace,
If you are a lawyer to Fru Ndi and his mentor Yoyo, I am sorry, just that case that you have engaged in can ruin your whole career. I am afraid the greatest lawyer in this world cannot disprove the criticisms about Fru Ndi because the facts speak for themselve coming out from the horse's own mouth.
Nobody I believe is jelous of Fru Ndi, on the other way round we are proud of him for turning a page in the political arena of Cameroon but we are disgraced by his lack of family values of not showing simple respect for his death wife by not even giving her some mourning time but continueing to struggle to steal more money, promoting embezzlement of SDF funds, and struggling to amass political power to become the almighty SDF chairman for life with the help of your notorious Yoyo constitutional amendments.
We are not bothering oursleves about his investments, anyway he was a successful book and newspaper vendor before his notorious 1988 unsuccesful run for the CPDM parliamentary seat for Mezam.
He is the one who asked us to boycot French Good just to turn around and give his house for rent to French company (pmuc) and since then he has never told us that the boycot of French good is over.
Mr. Ace, if we are worrying is because we want to save SDF from the hijackers like FRu Ndi and Yoyo and Cameroon from Paul Biya. I dont even know Hon. Yoyo further than the report of Peter Teno's of his St Bedes embarrassing record of 2Cs disgraceful performance in GCE O/L and his arrest and torture of Temfack Ofega with SDF documents in the Nigerians borders. What Mr. Ni Fru Ndi never said was how Mr Yoyo sacrificed for the party before insulting Jerome Gwelleme who's nephew (I mean the son of his sister) was the first amonst the 6 people killed on the 26th of July 2004 and his cousine lost both arms after picking up an unexploded gerenate to throw back at the law officers of which the so called Yoyo might be have been among them.
In most modern democracies, parties are given a natural death if the fail to make up to 5% in elections but in Cameroon, this law is non existence and therefore there are more than 270 parties just to cause confusion during elections as wish by Biya. It is therefore our responsibiliy to fight to protect the only possible opposition party in cameroon.
If you think that we are living in a dream world, I am sure, you are instead the one. Fru Ndi has no support anymore in the grass roots but SDF is still potentially the only opposition party in Cameoon. We can't fold arms and see Fru Ndi ruin SDF with the pretext that he risked his Life in launching the party. He never risked up to the 6 individuals who lost their lives or those who lost arms.
Mr Fru Ndi, Titus Edzoa who is in prison now has confessed that at the eve of every elections, the was a heavy envelop from Etoudi to Tarikon.
Mr Fru Ndi and his disciples like Mbah Ndam and YOYO as well as Paul Biya and his disciples are viruses which have infected Cameroon that need to be cured with immidiate effects. Ni Fru's effect in cameroon is worse than the effect of HIV in the body tissues.
Posted by: Francis Nche | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 11:29 PM
I meant 26th of May 1990 in my posting above instead ofthe 26th of July 2004
Posted by: Francis Nche | Saturday, 16 July 2005 at 11:39 PM
On reading what most of these things - Ni John Fru Ndi's blind suppoters - are writing in this forum, I actually feel hot bile rushing into my eyes. When I hear these useless stones blindly blowing Ni John Fru Ndi's trumpet, I actually feel my flesh struggling to jump out of my skin. When I hear Ni John Fru Ndi behaving as if he was sent by God to save Cameroonians, I have an urge coming down from heaven: "Mukete take up arms against this traitor and dictator". I am currently going through one of those real moments that The Almighty God talks to me directly. My blood is boiling within me! Enough with this traitor. Democracy in the absence of goodness and virtue is of a dictator, while "power to the people" without the possibility of people freely saying what they think is of the devil. This Ni John!
Ni John Fru Ndi has cheapened the goals of all those who died during the launching of the SDF in Bamenda. These people were dying fully satisfied that the then unknown Book seller, Ni John Fru Ndi, was aiming to be the President of all Cameroonians. I see all those who lost their lives actually regretting - in Heaven - that Ni John Fru Ndi's greatest ambition today is to remain Chairman of the SDF. Not only that. They are also angry that Ni John Fru Ndi walked on their dead bodies to enrich himself.
Look at Ni John Fru Ndi when he talks - typical of dictators! Look at the movements of his eyes and hands when he wants to force people into believing what he says, then we should rejioce and thank God for not taking the whole country under his rule.
Look, let us be serious only for one second. It surprises me to realize that most of these things - Ni John Fru Ndi's blind supporters- are giving the impression that Ni John has merely attained the apex of his political life and so he should remain there till the door of life closes behind him. They do not give the impression that one day Ni John Fru Ndi can use the Ballot Box to force Paul Biya put the keys of Etoudi palace on the table and surrender.
It is shame to find some of these things - Ni John Fru Ndi's blind supporters- actually going so low and mean, and even going as far as trying to climb down on those who muster courage to ask important questions about their god.
It is a pity to find that these prophets of doom do not have the interests of the whole country at heart. Cameroonians are starving and dying, without money to buy drugs, while Ni John Fru Ndi is there eating with the devil. Enough is enough!
As these things - Ni John Fru Ndi"s blind supporters - continue to encourage Ni John Fru Ndi into using the common people as guinea pigs for his selfish political ambition, I want to tell them that when some of us will lose our temper, NI JOHN FRU NDI will finally abandon Cameroon.Those six (un)fortunate poor people who lost their lives during the launching of the SDF are anxiously waiting for him!
I hope the next Beti woman he selects become a good adviser for him.
THANK GOD, NI JOHN FRU NDI WILL NEVER, NEVER RULE OUR COUNTRY. THIS IS UNDISPUTABLE! HE IS MERELY LIVING ON BORROWED TIME.
Those things - NI JOHN FRU NDI'S BLIND SUPPORTERS - who want to vomit fire because of my analysis can now expose their ignorance and the enslavery of their consciences by Ni John.
Mukete has spoken, and if they are not happy to see me point my finger at their god, Ni John, then I am sorry, they must be contented to swallow the bitter pill. The truth is bitter but must be spoken.
Mukete
Posted by: mukete | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 12:26 AM
Although a regular visitor to this forum, I have always hesitated to write. In short I have just observed that Cameroonians have to look for this Mukete. Mukete may be having something good to offer. This man surely has something innovating in him. In short he stands for what he believes in and despite any obstacles he does it without fear, and without giving consideration to tribes or provinces that may be under question. I however doubt the fact that he is a mere secondary five leaver.
Sarah
Posted by: Sarah Ngum | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 01:02 AM
Goodday friends.Judging from the various write-ups,most Cameroonians are not different from those who hold power in Y`de.When the post first published information about the vendetta,everybody was eager to hear what Fru Ndi had as argument.As the person who brought political debate to our door steps,he came out to clear the air.If he did not look at the various contours of the problem,we wouldn`t have known the inner workings of this party.The debates here fall within ethnic lines and this is exemplified from the names of the writers." Tell me your name and i will tell you who you are".Most of us are children of Cpdm hitmen in Cameroon and now think that we can conceal our identities behind this forum to carry on some of the sterile attacks our parents have unsuccessfully carried out against Fru Ndi.The children of most ordinary cameroonians cannot afford an air ticket to acquire the stature of a bushfaller.Most of the contributors hear are from families with narcissistic outlook of things,who have been butchering cameroonians ,yet they are as vocal as their parents are killers.What i want to reason aloud is that your little names remind us of the factional leaders who from far or near tried for more than 10 years to portray Fru Ndi as not literate enough,as dictatorial,thus standing on mountain tops to proclaim themselves ,only to embrace 'la langue du bois' when they were brandished fresh bank notes and promised positions in Y`de.Everytime they are problems in the SDF,it is because the profs,Docs have become all-knowing and all seeing,thereby thinking that the simple bookseller should go to hell.Nay.They have always burnt their hands and left in shame.Who called Evariste Fopoussi back? Has dictatorship finished in the SDF? Has the Chairman become a university DOn? Lets not be afraid of words.Even if we were to think on ethnic lines,the majority of those guys from the southwest who see nothing wrong with Asonganyi putting everything around the chairman to question ,should show us one good politician the southwest has had,be he a bookseller who could stand the heat against Biya for 15 yrs.Asonganyi will leave the sdf in shame.The Ben Muna`s ,whose father was a statesman and who had the support of other heavyweights tried ,but are eating shame today.In cameroon we know the hecklers and we know those who can stand the heat.It is not for nothing that Biya doesn`t want to give the northwest a good university.He knows that people here are past master at the game of wits.
Posted by: Tesih, China. | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 02:07 AM
DEAR RAY AND MUKETTE THUGS,
JANJAWEEDS,JANJAWEEDS!!!!!!Yes,that is what you are.You place is in the hideouts.Mukette thugs,Kumba is unsafe because of you-a classical terrorist,Grand Kumba,you better keep quiet or i expose you.Why do u feed us with spam each time there is a hot article in The Post page????? It may be just another MUKETTE THUG strategy...
And you Janjaweed/Taliban RAY,you are a criminal for your active brutal involvement in the UB strike,after u struggled with failure to sabotage the UBSU.I declare you persona non ingrata.
Stop sending spams and junks or i expose you too.
!!!
Please,stop setting up confusion....
Ray,U are unqualified to post comments in a site like this.Go to iraq or sudan and find your place.
That is the CPDM strategy.Each time there is disagreement in the opposition,this rdpc uses MUKETTE thugs and terrorists cells to deepen the wounds.Eat your money from josep char ndoumba and mbiya silently,without distroying the post page**********
Posted by: TOM CRUISE | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 03:25 AM
I read the interview of Fru Ndi and was bitterly disappointed with the manner he handled things. I think that for 15 years, he is no longer able to distinguish what is Fru Ndi's and what is SDF's. I just dont understand why Rose Fru Ndi should on whatever occasion decide to prepare food for the party from her pocket. This is a party affair and not Fru Ndi's family meeting. If the party had no funds for this item, I think it was not left for his wife to provide such funds. Fru Ndi did not tell us how much she spent, where she bought the food and where she got the money from to do this. I guess that it is this sidelining of other women in the party and entrusting everything to his wife that was the origin of the comments we learnt from some people. Rose Ndi was nobody in the SDF and her death should not make the party stop functioning because of any reason. And besides, if everything was ok, people will not get up and oppose his wife, and even use such strong words against her with the SG supporting them for nothing. Fru Ndi, you should not treat readers as infants. What was the root cause of the comments? Fru Ndi asked parliamentarians to carry the corpse of his wife. Why did he not explain that in the interview? Or was it the right thing to do?
Secondly, Fru Ndi has castigated many people in the past for protecting their jobs rather than fighting for the party. For continuing to accept money from the government and not being "patriotic" enough like him to shun all sorts of temptation bordering on money. It is utter shame that he should turn round today and accept millions from Biya as his friend. I will never support such an act even if Rose was dying on the spot. He seems to think that Asonganyi is chicken-hearted. I think it is a way to draw public attention and sympathy to himself. In a position like that of Asonganyi, it is not necessarily the temptation of being killed that is most important. It is the willingness to say "no" in the face of money. And today, we can clearly state that Fru Ndi can't say "no" in the face of money. And if he thinks that this was not a goal scored against the party, then he should consider himself blind.
About sending his private secretary to monitor elections in Europe. This is another show of ignorance from the party's chairman. His private secretary is his private secretary. Was he elected by anyone? Well, he says he is computer specialist...haha. He wants to send a "computer specialist" from Bamenda to go and teach people how to monitor elections in Britain and Germany. I can't help laughing at this. And did he inform his secretary that he was sending his private "computer literate" specialist? When Asonganyi told him that he was on his way to London, was Ndi so drunk with sorrow to let him know that an alternative person had been designated for the same job? Or he wanted him to go and when he comes back, he puts charges on him and "crucify" him because he is becoming very popular in the party?
I will not stop frowning at statements like people who fought for the party in the early days or who have sacrificed everything for the party. This simply comes to nothing and it is an argument put forward by those who do not really want change. It means therefore that since Biya founded the CPDM, he should never step down as the president. This is stupid and so third world oriented. Fru Ndi has been noted for using such statements in the past and even now. If he and these his so-called men who have given their blood to the party are really interested in making the party progress, they should not still be hanging on posts today. They should identify new and future leaders of the party, groom them and prepare them for the future of the party and not continue dreaming that they will one day be president of the country. Because we shall never vote Fru Ndi as president, and even if we do, CPDM will rig the elections. The example of Mandela and Mbeki should be borrowed in this party for once.
In short, Pa Ndi should stop victimizing people he thinks may take over from him. Let him, like the founding father of the party, prepare future, honest and reliable leaders for this darling party we have all suffered for.
And lastly, why did he not shed more lights on the suitcases loaded with money from Etoudi to Ntarinkon, as reported by Le Messager?
Posted by: ateba | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 04:38 AM
I now see how cameroonians are drunk about power.Even the young people whom we thought could save cameroon from Biya have no future.Just b/c they think someone can be a leader,they also think those who had been they before should cease to exist.Fortunately enough most of these hecklers hold the view that Fru Ndi has stood the test of time.Please read b/w the lines before shooting off your mouths to say anything.To be candid lets look at these points from an intellectual`s perspective.
1. The much talked about letter was not even written directly to Fru Ndi ,but Nyo Wakai ,who did not measure the pain the chairman was undergoing after his wife`s death,but invited him to live his residence and go to neutral grounds to discuss rumours.Common! Nyo Wakai used to be part of the Ntarikon Palace and he is now proving that this palace is an eye-sore.That`s why the other lady said ,somebody could be poisoned in Fru Ndi`s home.This is a smearing campaign from Nyo Wakai,who from all indication is the source of this letter.He should know that he is from a hamlet called Bu,and neither owns a home there,nor ever thinks of going there.Fru Ndi was a millionnaire in 1960 and owned a Mercedes at that time.He built Ntarikon palace,knowing fully well where he was heading to.
2. Asonganyi is slippery.First ,he went into hiding after coming back from Britain,ashamed of his behaviour towards his boss,and when he came out,he faltered again by forcing Nec members to turn their meeting into a funeral celebration.
3.When he picked up his pen and contacted his guru Nyo wakai,the first idea that came to their mind was to tell Fru Ndi that the CPDM had scored a victory against the SDF. Prof. this was only a victory and not the end of the war.Was this the right moment to say this to someone who was deeply saddened by the death of his wife?
3. To further soil the chairman`s reputation,a woman stood up and put the whole atmosphere around Fru Ndi`s home into question and the Secretary General sided with her there and then.It was preconceived.But Fru Ndi still went out negotiating for a venue.How can one be selfless?
4.Asonganyi is not the only prof in Cuss,we have the Dan Lantums there and we have always got these pple in the Sdf.I want all the readers to keep this at the back of their minds,that if Asonganyi treats Fru Ndi with disdain b/c he is a professor,then he will end up like the other profs before him.If he wants to hide behind old quacks like Nyo Wakai,he will only have his eyes to cry ,when he will get up one morning and discover that he no longer has a political future.
5. His politics ends between Cuss and his home in Y`de.He doesn`t want to work in Bamenda,maybe those who live there are animals,but the person who nearly gave his life for this party lives there and this party can and will never be run by writing rumours to Bamenda,rather than going there to talk it out with Fru Ndi.
6. Finally Asonganyi will soon know who keeps the SDf together and who caeroonians hold at heart.
7.He should stop making a lot of fuss in order not to make his fall more catastrophic when time comes.When u fall from the SDF,u never recover,but when u fall from the CPDM,u can ,because there," Un bon joueur ne manque pas d`equipe" .It is a party of nitwits and circus clowns ,suffering from senile dementia.Biya sent the souleymans and others to sow seeds of discord in the SDF,but the party has already survived for 15 years.U have your eyes.Remember," A restless butterfly ends up in the mouth of a bird".
Posted by: Scorpion | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 04:41 AM
Tesih, China
This is not a North West - South West issue. May be the hardship in China has made you to start thinking foolish.
Posted by: soso | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 04:47 AM
From the many contributions i have read so far some are bla bla bla people running ther long mouths and saying that the chairman should be sent away.Well that may be fair.I respect their opinion.But i think it will be better if they can suggest who they think can better fit or be in that position right now and do better than Fru Ndi.Let names be given and let people step up and challenge him.Fru Ndi did not appoint himself there like Mr Biya does.Fru Ndi was elected there and as long as the people want him there he will be there.Its not about running ones mouth that changes things.People should be realistic and stop being emmotional.Politic is a game and its not about who is most learned in this matter its about who can deliver the goods.Some one said "njangi money na for table them di see" don't sit there and only run your mouth rise up to the challenge and win the fight.If there is or are better peoeple let them wait for the right time election time and outvote Fru Ndi behold the man will leave the place.He will not be like Biya who was defeated clearly in 92 and he will not leave.All those running their mouths are they aware that Fru Ndi won Presidential elections in 92 and Biya imposed himself as president and even wants to imposed himself as preseident for life right now.Stop be emmotional and read between the lines.Fru is a human being just as any other person before passing as a leader.If you have issues that hurt you Fru has issues that hurt him too.Its not only about preaching that Fru Ndi leaves but its about making sure that when he leaves we have a better opposionm a better SDF.Coz the truth is that he will not be there forever as some thinK.Or as he may want So do not allow the subsantce and chase the shadows for you will never get any way.We are here runnuing mouths and fighting when Biya ais there with his clique in power messing the whole system up with corruption no one has even cared but we think that Fru be crusified coz he accepted his wife be evacuated at Govt expensive.Who will allow his own wife to Perish? God safe Cameroon.
Posted by: Nforsama | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 04:49 AM
Nfor,
You should also ask Fru Ndi the same question. Who does he think can replace him in the party? I guess he has no answer because he does not think of being replaced? I think the question of a successor in the party is as pertinent to us as to the Chairman and if he has nothing on his agenda so far, he is evil in the party. Check this out
Posted by: ateba | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 06:05 AM
Mr Scorpion's contribution has clarified one point in my mind, namely that those who are hoping that the SDF Convention in November will address matters of policy and lay a credible foundation on how to rescue Cameroon Paul Biya's misrule especially in his last mandate should better forget it. That convention is intended to settle personal scores and rid the party of real or percieved adversaries of the chairman.This will be nothing short of abuse of and misuse of the socalled grassroots support the chairman lays claims to.
In so doing, let him and those who are urging him on stop for a while and ask themselves whether prior to the rise of the Chairman Paul Biya did not enjoy the same amount of grass roots support from 1982? And was it not for his arrogance and misconstruction of that popular support that made the rise of the chairman possible?
About allegations of corruption. I do not have evidence to the effect that the chairman had indeed been corrupt by Biya.However,he has surrounded himself by sycophants devoid of the type of critical thinking that the category of Cameroons for whom he has apprehensions possess and his real adversaries the CPDM take advantage of that.One example. During the Souleymane/Takoundjou crisis, Paul Biya in an interview with late Francois Soudan of Jeune Afrique stated he was in the habit of helping the SDF in unspecified ways.The chairman on whom the onus falls to defend the party in such situations did not challenge that statement.That omission is costing him his credibility today.His private secretary should concern himself with taking note of these and other issues and not being dragged into party affairs.
The chairman's interview if any thing was intended for the grassroots of his party who may be to insigated it to applaud him on. But mordern technology makes it possible for the world to read at large to read it. This portrays him to this later constituency in very bad light and the comments about members of his party in bad taste.
And this consituency Mr Scorpion matter because international political dynamics have changed in recent times. No one will want an illtempered , vindictive ,undemocratic and arrogant leader as a viable partner in economic development or the war against terrorism or peace and security in the subregion? And in times like these we are judged by what we say and do and by how we respond to situations like the one the Chairman found himself.He has portaryed the SDF as a party in disarray; a party where the chairman is everything.
No modern leader will want to express the sentiments conveyed in that interview to the world at large.It is a painful mistake and it is time for the Chairman to correct this situation so that the SDF can put it behind itself so quickly and go back to its original vision as well as work on what is left on its positive record.To take Cameroonians along another year of exclusions just for the sake of the chairman is a bad track record. Very bad indeed.
Posted by: Charles. A Taku | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 07:18 AM
Does Fru Ndi want Assongayi to resign from his Job as university Professor and ask for stipend from the party the way he (Fru Ndi) is doing? Why is Fru Ndi referring to the university of Yaounde as 'Biya's university?'. Is Fru Ndi sincerely giving the impression that he cannot be paid by his numerous businesses?. I find it very strange that a potential President of Cameroon is using the death of a loved one to build up political capital. Fru Ndi does not seem to know the meaning of observing elections. According to him his private secretary who is a computer specialist (what ever that means) was better placed to observe the elections. What has observing elections got to do with computer science? How many of the EU election monitors are computer scientists? Fru Ndi should learn how to make a distinction between his personal relationships and the SDF. Otherwise he has no business trying to rule Cameroon.
Posted by: Dr. Vande-Aka | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 07:50 AM
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DEAR RAY AND MUKETTE THUGS,
JANJAWEEDS,JANJAWEEDS!!!!!!Yes,that is what you are.You place is in the hideouts.Mukette thugs,Kumba is unsafe because of you-a classical terrorist,Grand Kumba,you better keep quiet or i expose you.Why do u feed us with spam each time there is a hot article in The Post page????? It may be just another MUKETTE THUG strategy...
And you Janjaweed/Taliban RAY,you are a criminal for your active brutal involvement in the UB strike,after u struggled with failure to sabotage the UBSU.I declare you persona non ingrata.
Stop sending spams and junks or i expose you too.
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Please,stop setting up confusion....
Ray,U are unqualified to post comments in a site like this.Go to iraq or sudan and find your place.
That is the CPDM strategy.Each time there is disagreement in the opposition,this rdpc uses MUKETTE thugs and terrorists cells to deepen the wounds.Eat your money from josep char ndoumba and mbiya silently,without distroying the post page**********
Posted by: TOM CRUISE | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 09:01 AM
I believe even Fru Ndi himslef will withdraw this interview if he takes time and reads it over with a cold head. Even a child knows that you don't just make declarationn when annoyed not to talk of an official of a party which actions or inactions directly affect the welbeing of Cameroonians.
The interview gives me an impression that Fru Ndi do not has advicers or if he does, then his advicers are aimed at steering to autodestruction or simply he is too stiff to listen to his advicers.
Fru Ndi advicers, his private Sceretary and others should use this commentary section of the Post to guide future public statements of Chairman, Ni Fru Ndi because we will not like to be disgraced in future with such statement from the leader of the main opposition party in the country.
Please Fru Ndi, withdraw the above interview
Posted by: Francis Nche | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 09:13 AM
SOSO:
Tesih China is a narrow-minded bigot.He is worse that the idiots that invented the sawa/graffi divide. don't u realize that he is the only fool in the forum who has brought up the sw/nw divide?
Posted by: Essemo Alenu | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 09:36 AM
Nforsama:
Did u just learn a new expression "running one's mouth"?
You seem to be more interested in injecting that phrase in every sentence of yours rather than saying anything of substance
Posted by: Essemo Alenu | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 09:40 AM
Pa should not have done this! If he continues like this then we should expect another article where Pa is confronting his sons or grand sons.
Those who are aware of the activities of SDF will agree with me that The party will degrade terrible in the absence of the Present S.G.
Posted by: KENE | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 11:48 AM
Mukete.
Stop talking rubbish about Fru Ndi. I hope you do not belongs to the family of Chief Mukete in Kumba. You people are sell out. Please don,t spoil the post for your illitracy, fool
Posted by: PETIE | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 11:51 AM
If these reactions are all from millitants and sympathizers of the sdf, then thatz fine. but i must say that there are some from those rdpc poisons in the society who are out to divide the party as has always been their strategy in every group that is a threat to them.
Mukete, I believe if you were the one leading Cameroonians, you would have long asked them to use tools from their tool boxes to fight a war that will be stupidly led by you. You will fight alone.
Do you guys know why someone like mbiya rarely grants interviews? with your big minds guess why. We can write lengthy analysis about someones speech, etc, the question is can you make one so easily? People often say "I was the best student/pupil in my class", can we run a backgroud check to see how you have always been so brilliant in all subjects of life? It will be a shame if one finds that you were not the leading student in all subjects. Believe me, there are many of us in here with masters and Phds, who cannot make a nice/coherent speech in just 10 minutes, who have never led a group of 5 or more people, never been dared to be elected into positions of responsibilities, etc. If some say pa has made so much money from politics, how much does it cost to create a party in cameroon? Create one and garther your supporters, then tell biya about it so that he can then start sending suitcases rather to your headquaters wherever it may be instead of ntarinkon. Stop making baseless accusations to divide the party.
Kofi Anan leads the world without a phd or prof degrees, Mandela did lead south africa out of trouble, very few leaders have those certificates. where do we go with this primitive notion that these titles mean good leadership?
I urge the sdf big guns, NEC members, etc, to not just listen to calls from these morons and act very wrongly. I know there are very honest guys amongst you, check out pa´s/others financial dealings with the party and replace anyone found guilty. There are people amongst you just pretending around, waiting for an opportunity where they can get to power, and then crumble the sdf in a matter of days/months. So watch out.
May God save us/sdf!
Posted by: Elake | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 12:07 PM
Those who are supporting Ni John Fru Ndi here are just a true replica of the man himself - Devil in Human form. Just like Ni John Fru himself, these his disciples of weakedness, blackmail and intimidation, talk too much. As a political head, Ni John Fru should weigh the consequences of what he says before opening his uncontrolable mouth. Politics is not just talking and talking. There has to be a pulse for thinking and reflection.
With his in-born habit of always wanting to talk and open his eyes, this stage actor ends up contradicting himself and what the SDF stands for. By talking and talking, Fru Ndi ends up releasing disturbing facts that were not even known. Appointing his PRIVATE SECRETARY TO MONITOR ELECTIONS IN BRITAIN? Because he is computer literate? This man keeps on demonstrating how ignorant he is. This man has to go to "School" to be training on how to make public communications.
It is not because you are a leader of a party that you should get up even from sleep to go directly into granting interviews. It is not because a leader has lost his wife that he uses a memorial celebration, with the corpse of his wife looking directly into his eyes, to attack the press and people and even singing aloud that he too has the right to eat Paul Biya's soya.
When Ni John Fru becomes very bitter and aggressive JUST because he lost his wife, we begin to wonder if the pains he feels for his wife is more than the pains others feel for their departed love ones. So if Ni John Fru had the possibility of letting many other Cameroonians die in place of his wife, this man would have encouraged this to happen. "Others can die, not that of the chairman", he seems to tell us.
My wife north, My wife south, My wife East, My wife West, as if he is the only one who has lost a wife. People have lost five direct family members on the same day and heaven has not come down. Children have lost their mothers while these mothers were laboring to bring them to this world. Men have lost their "would-be-wives" barely one day to the marriage. People have lost the wives they have with for years without children, and heaven has not come down. Why should Ni John Fru feel that he is so special. I think if Ni John Fru Ndi should know the day he will die, TOTAL DESTRUCTION will fall on Cameroon - blood will then flow in our streets.
Ni John Fru has finally gone down into history as a political who lives on sentiments and uncontrolled emotions. Not only using his crude language to intimidate his rivals, he uses his eyes to frighten.
Listen to his myopic reasoning:
He claims that Asonganyi is his right man to assist him when his wife died. What a shame. What arrogance! Between Asonganyi who was not appointed by Fru Ndi and his PERSONAL SECRETARY (surely picked by Fru Ndi himself), who should be his right hand man at very private situations like the passing away of his wife? Instead this tyrant and ignorant leader, because of purely selfish reasons, preferred to send his PRIVATE SECTARY TO MONITOR elections abroad.
Ni John Fru Ndi is not happy of Asonganyi's increasing popularity and so he is doing everything to blackmail him as a misfit. On the contrary Asonganyi was very careful when giving answers to the press. Ni Jonh on the other hand, merely demonstrated the fact that he is controlled by his reflex or involuntary system. Even Paul Biya, the man that has put Cameroon under his thumb, at least know how to handle public issues, doing everything to avoid been governed by sentiments. On returning to Cameroon following rumour that he had died abroad, Paul Biya controlled his sentiments and even behaved as if nothing had happened. Even when he lost his wife - THE FIRST LADY FOR ALL CAMEROONIANS, he never declared "MORAL STAGNATION" the way Fru Ndi is doing. Paul Biya was calm and intact.
Since this man has lost his brain and sense of purpose, I think he has to consult Professor Medical Asonganyi for medical check up. Else he should go to school. John Fru needs some basic lessons!
Ni John Fru Ndi is not qualified to be the president of even a fourt division football team. The man goes on thinking that ALL Cameroonians are for him. The majority are not. I think the right place for him is his tiny book shop. This man talks too much; he is too emotional; he takes things too personsl; he climbs down on any potential rival; and he has no respect for the press that has stood by his side for so long.He is a total disgrace!
Frankly speaking, Ni John Fru is already pushing the majority of Cameroonians to the wall. Enough is enough. As he continues to take us for fools, educated people (even his disciples of doom using this forum) should lecture him on one of Newton's three laws of motion: "FOR ANY ACTION, THERE IS AN EQUAL AND OPPOSITE REACTION.
God take us away from the hands of those who have conspired to drag our conciences into mud! We do not deserve this treatment from those who only think about their wives and stomach. Just imagine the headach we are having because Ni John Fru lost his wife.
Ni John has sacrificed before, but this not mean that he should continue to eat on arreas, especailly if he has to CLIMB on others to do so.
Mukete
Posted by: Mukete | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 12:29 PM
"Like father like son, like politicians like militants;" that is the mantra of the Cameroon political society.
Posted by: Felix | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 12:41 PM
LET THE SDF BE VERY CAREFULL WITH WHATEVER DECISION THEY MAKE ABOUT FRU NDI. THEY BETTER KEEP HIM HAPPY BECAUSE NI IS THE HEART AND SOUL OF THAT PARTY. THE MAIN REASON WHY THE SDF IS CAMEROON'S LARGEST PARTY IS BECAUSE OF THAT ICON FRU NDI, AND NOT DIRECTLY THE PARTY'S POLICIES. MARK YOU THAT ALMOST ALL OF THE OTHER POLITICAL PARTIES IN CAMEROON TODAY HAVE THESAME ANTI-BIYA ANTI-CPDM POLICIES AS THE SDF. BUT THE REASON WHY THE SDF YIELDS A LOT MORE SUPPORTERS NATION-WIDE IS BECAUSE OF THAT ICON. PEOPLE ENJOY HIS INTELLECT ON HOW HE MIXES UP HIS PERSONAL LIFE EXPERIENCES WITH POLITICS... BE IT FROM WHEN HE TURNED DOWN MILLIONS FROM ETOUDI TO FORM THE PARTY, TO WHEN HE GOT SHOT, OR HIS HOUSE ARREST. ALL THESE PERSONAL EXPERIENCES MIXED UP WITH THE BRILLIANT POLITICIAN THAT HE IS APPEALS TO A LOT OF CAMEROONIANS EVEN ON A PERSONAL LEVEL. POEPLE LOVE HIS PERSONALITY AND PORFOLIO. PEOPLE JUST WANT TO HEAR HIM TALK. THAT'S WHY HIS RALLIES ARE OFTEN ALWAYS REMARKABLE. I BELIEVE THAT IF FRU NDI GOES DOWN, A LOT OF THE PARTY'S SUPPORTERS NATION-WIDE WILL GO ALONG WITH HIM. I MEAN, EVEN IF THE SDF NEEDS A NEW FACE, MAKE FRU NDI THE GENERAL OVERSEER OR SOMETHING. MAKE HIM BE MORE OR LESS LIKE MANDELLA IS TO THE ANC, ELSE...
Posted by: Tia Mathias | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 12:56 PM
At times it pays to look at things objectively. Our greatest cry for biya to GO is not just because he has stayed too long in power but more importantly because his regime has done Cameroon no good and has no future for Cameroonians. Look at a country like Lybia, how long has Gadafi been in power? His people still love and need him despite his long stay in power, reasons being that he meets the demands of his nation and have laws put in place that guarantee the future of the Lybian youth. In the same light our reason for asking Fru Ndi to leave power should not be because he has stayed too long but whether he still has Cameroonians at heart. Let us liken this to yet another example, how long did Mandela lead the SNC? More than 30 years. His people still wanted him because they were convinced he will still be there to defend their interest. To be very honest, there is NO Cameroonian now that will take over the leadership of SDF and will not be bought over. I know some coward, after reading this statement will write back to ask if Fru Ndi has not been bought over, looking at their “goal scoring” stupid point. It is so disheartening how stupid, heartless and insensitive some of us can be. Money dispatched to rescue a soul and we talk of a “goal” scored? Who in Fru Ndi’s position will not fight to save the soul of the woman he loves?
Some idiots and obviously psychos above addressed Fru Ndi as stark illiterate. That is where we Africans always fail. We refuse to see and exploit the natural potentials in us because we rely so much on degrees, diploms etc, which most often, have failed us. Look at Arnold Schawzeneger (commando) who is governor presently in the U.S. What qualifications does he have that Fru Ndi doesn’t? Suppose this guy was a Cameroonian would we have ever thought of giving him the chance despite the fact that he is duly qualified without “big book”? Stupid and narrow minded Cameroonians would have rejected him on grounds that he is a “common film actor” with no “big book” as you say about Fru Ndi. In the develop world, what counts are your marketable qualities irrespective of how many “big books” you have. Unless Cameroonians in particular and Africans in general start thinking in this direction when it comes to choosing our leaders, we are still very far from redeeming ourselves.
Posted by: jike | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 01:34 PM
Do we lack someone useful to say when we address Mukete as a fool, illitrate or uneducated? I mean, this man's contributions prove time and again that he is not only well educated but that he fully masters what he writes. In short, his most recent contribution - please read it - keeps pushing us into wondering who this mukete is. The man has said everything and I think skeptics would agree that he is NOT what others think he is. This man is inspiring and a good writer.
Sarah
Posted by: Sarah | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 01:44 PM
mukete, you talked of Fru Ndi over mourning his wife. you will not understand what it means to love wholeheartedly. That explains why you are still polygamous in a modern society until you are not ashamed to reveal that in this forum. you certainly have two of them because you love none of them, just the desire to have sex. Let me tell you that love goes far beyond the point of sex, and that explains why you can not have a true feel of what it takes to loose somebody very close to your heart. you said Paul biya behaved himself when he lost his wife, has it ever occured to you that that was what he wanted? Why on earth will he feel bad or cry?
Posted by: nobody | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 01:51 PM
MUKETE THUGS-SARAH,
Mukete thugs.U seem to be operating under 2 names-mukete and Sarah.Am not surprise because it is a strategy used by MUKETE THUGS to te¨rrorise and cause havoc,confusion and combustment.
U are warned to know your limits...
U are a fictitious figure...
Posted by: TOM CRUISE | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 01:54 PM
Mr. Mukete,
Watch it with your insults or your comments will be chopped off. You can make your point forcefully without defaming or insulting. I am sending a mail to The Post team asking them to monitor you closely. If you can't write without insulting, go elsewhere. I hope the moderators are watching
Posted by: NI | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 01:56 PM
On July 16, Ray wrote, "This is to show how backward Cameroon is. Wake up country men. We cannot folds our hands and let a stark illitrate lead Cameroons biggest opposition party.Thats why they keep loosing support. Open your eyes, Fru Ndi is there to get rich and power hungry."
What a shame! He cannot even spell the word illiterate, his use of tenses is poor, who is the real illiterate? Remember, those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. You don't deserve a response although my anger compels me to respond to you ignorant rantings.
This is the real problem with Cameroon, where people have no respect for our true heroes. Cameroon has few heroes, Fru Ndi stands tall in that group. He is mortal, he is fallible. He needs to be criticized constructively, not abused.
Posted by: observer | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 02:23 PM
Elake,
After reading so many views,yours caught my attention.Thank you for reminding us that great men and women are not all Phd holders.It is amazing the way people think and I am sure we both think the same way.People are so naïve and it is sad they believe those who are not well educated cannot lead…Total ignorance on their part…Check out the Microsoft Guru Bill Gates…I am sure you all know that he is not a professor in computer science or university graduate…I don’t need to profile him for you all know him..How about the two guys who designed Google…Ignorance is a crime…Don’t nail Fru Ndi yet..Elake my brother..I owe you a bottle of Moet..As for Mukette(alias mbambe for Kumba),you can continue to disguise yourself and insult Fru Ndi as much as you want..I have one word for you,come November,challenge him and do better you agent of darkness..You are nothing but one of the mistakes of technology.Even if the post decide not to publish your articles,you will come out as Ekete or who knows what?.
For all I care,Prof,Pa Fru Ndi and the Sdf should get their acts together because any confusion in the party only Strengthens the incumbent..How about that?And to those who are still insisting that Fru Ndi made reference to Biya’s university…Put on your thinking caps and read between the lines…Government of the people by the people and for the people is democracy..Biya can not be impeached or challenged or monitored..so he is in control of the entire country which makes every institution in that country his own..He has just been fair enough to save us the name Cameroon so don’t castigate Fru Ndi for telling the truth.
Posted by: crystabelle | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 03:03 PM
Dear Contributors,
I decided not to be the "stupid reader" by painstakingly reading through most(if not all) the articles posted here. All had something to say if we would take time to understand and reason with the writer. But, i would flatly disagree with some comments made esp those insinuating a NW/SW divide.
Firstly, we must distinguish between Ni Fru Ndi(whom i respect)the person and the politician. He is like everyone of us. He has the right(if he wishes) to express his personal feelings about a crisis. If he didn't, we wld have cried foul. His views should not be used to judge his political commitments, charisma or leadership quality. Think about what Chiraque recently said abt British food. There is no doubt that Ni Fru, Dr. Asonghayi, Mbah Ndam and all those fighting for the liberation of CMR are doing a tremendous job and deserve our applause than our fouls languages. Like every humanbeing, they must err. The truth is that, both parties in the SDF crisis (I mean Ni and Dr. Asonganyi) have erred and MUST settle their disputes for the good of the party and CMR. Democracy has come to stay.
Yes, when NI FRU goes down, a multitude will go down with him. That is why i will credit Tia Mathias. NI shd not really go down but be honorably put aside. The "common man" like me and my colleagues at the park or "chantier"(forgive my spellings) strongly believe in this man Ni Fru. And this group constitute the core of the SDF. Who will want a baby he suffered and sacrificed so dearly to raise be taken away from him? We need change but then we need those pple who inspired these changes from the beginning.
Lest i forget, without referring to anybody, permit say that i wld prefer a courageous and less educated politician who knows and feels my pains to an educated coward for a politician. Equally, i wld prefer the status of a Refugee if only it helps to change my country or at least the people around me.
Dear People, if some of us wld just go down to the "grassroot" and preach what we write here, we will get the reality of politics.
I will seriously pray for these two SDF stalwarts(and many others) to settle their differences and work for the good of CMR, for all great party leaders have had difficulties like these. They found common grounds too. It is CERTIAN THAT THE SDF WILL RULE CMR SOME DAY HOWEVER DISTANT.
Posted by: Edwin | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 03:17 PM
Thank you for your comments observer.I wish people can understand that we are in a free world and everyone has the right to express themselves how ever they want.Ray is just a loser i must say.This reminds me of a a situation that occured a
Few years ago.botton line is a group of university students decided to express themselves in English in a village gathering.An old woman sitting close to them got so frustrated that she could not catch up with the conversation.Realising that she had been a bush faller once,she decided to act fast by saying…Bring me the equipments for the soup!!!Guess who won the day??Everyone bursted out laughing and mama said..I also know English..
Posted by: crystabelle | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 03:17 PM
Ray
The fact that an 'illiterate' is leading Cameroon's largest opposition party points to the failures of the highly educated people to succeed in democracy.
This suggests that these highly educated people do not really understand what democracy is about (they may know democratic theory, as thought in the universities, but they lack practical democratic wisdom).
It is one thing knowing that 'big book' but a completely different thing getting across to the ordinary voters.
Would you vote for someone who speaks a language you do not understand?
This is the problem that ordinary voters are facing with the highly educated people.
An ordinary man in the street asks a highly educated politician a simple day-to-day question and, in answer, he blasts this voter with cultured high-level educated language that the voter cannot understand or relate to.
What do you think the voter will think about this politician?
The voter will see the politician as aloof, high-handed, uncaring, rude, and unfit for leadership!
To make your high education count in democracy you must do the following:
a) You must learn the additional skill of speaking the language of the people whose votes you seek. This doesn't mean learning to speak every tribal language. It means expressing yourself at the level of the person, and being sensitive and responsive to his or her needs.
b) You must watch that dry analytical, uncaring image that education often imparts on people. It takes considerable extra work for a highly educated person to gain that personableness and humility that is necessary in winning ordinary people to his side. The highly educated person must learn practical interpersonal (or people) skills, and must learn how to deal with diversity issues (differences in opinion, personalities, tribal backgrounds, racial backgrounds, etc.)
Remember that it is a principle of democracy that voters are never wrong, it is the politicians who seek their votes that may be wrong.
The fact that Mr Fru Ndi has always been voted into the SDF leadership suggests that democratically he has always been right (i.e. he has learned how to get his message across, how to relate to the people). This suggests that his education may not be high, but is a complete one!
It is those highly educated people in the SDF party that need to catch up, that have a lot to learn, as far as politics and democracy is concerned.
I take the point of one of the contributors that Mr Fru Ndi needs to outline a clear visionary policy that shows and convinces voters how he is going to be better than Mr Biya if made president.
To take the politics of Cameroon out of its current childish level, the leaders must start emphasing policy rather than tribal and other divisions. They must send dedicated groups to the various tribes in Cameroon explaining and educating people about their policies and what it means for them.
They must do so in language that the people can understand, not in 'big book' language. To win the people they will have to be articulate, sensitive, stable, and personable.
This voter is also concerned about the divisions in the SDF party, which is contributing to his decision to vote for the devil he knows.
Like I have said before, no divided party ever wins elections. And it is my view that the current extreme form of democracy practised by the SDF party is leading to its downfall. I cannot see them winning any elections in Cameroon if they continue with this system. I can only see Biya laughing at their stupidity.
Posted by: Dr A A Agbormbai | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 03:25 PM
Sarah alias Mukete,
Who introduced you to the internet??I know you very well and you have done this before and you have started it again.If you do it again,I will reveal your true identity.According to your ignorance,Sarah understands you better than all of us right??Try another name again and people will know who you are.This forum is for constructive criticisms so watch out!!!
Posted by: crystabelle | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 03:32 PM
Crystabelle, I have critized Mukete for an unethical certisms in this forum but it doesn't cancell the fact that he is a great thinker, creative in his contributions and visionary in his views. If you don't understand his points know that some of us including Sarah do, so don't try to invent issues to discredit Mukete.
"Biya can not be impeached or challenged or monitored". Crystabelle. Is that the reason why Fru Ndi has to use Biya as his reference to copy anything that he does? If you want to dsipute this, walk into the SDF secertariat, YOyo drafts constiution is open for everybody to view, you will notice that this is exactly to make it in such a way that " Fru Ndi can not be impeached or challenged or monitored"
Any person who believes that Fru Ndi is always voted as chairman of SDF democratically should therefore also accept the corresponding event that Paul Biya is always voted at the helm of Cameroon democratically.
I was in Cameroon before during and After the last presidential elections and made my own observation in Mokolo Market Yaounde, Central Market in new Bell Douala, Bamenda Market and Babungu village. These are places which one would expect to get enthusiatic support for SDF but most of individuals have decided to stay neutral of politics and many even willing to support CPDM. From my own observation, even a transparent election in Cameroon now will still give a landslide victory for Paul Biya not because he is loved but because most Cameroonians have no other choice to vote for and will prefere to stay at home and not vote at all, while the few Paul Biya's die heart supporters will vote. This issue was aggravated by the negative part Ni Fru played in the process of formation of a Single opposition candidate. Every Cameroonian saw that he doesn't have them at heart. There are even rumours that he was bribed by Biya to do so. That was the final nail on the coffin of Fru Ndi's political career. It is now left for him to leave so as to save SDF.
Mr Jike will be saying that Fru Ndi should not go because there will be nobody to lead. Whenever one leader goes, there always appear ten more powerful ones. Nobody is infallible and so do Fru Ndi.
Mr Ni Fru and Prof. Asongayi, please save SDF and consequently Cameroon by both of you stepping aside. You are resource persons where new generation can use as a source of wisdom and advice.
Posted by: Francis Nche | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 04:33 PM
I am surprised that Agbormbai will see good from someone without a 'D' and 'r' before his name. Agbormbai when were last in Cameroon? You cage yourself in Britain and think because you earn a Ph.D you are a master of Cameroon's problems and only you and the 'Dr's have the solution. What do know about the common mans plight in Cameroon? Aren't you the one who once wrote here that those with doctorate degrees contributing here are the competent contrinbutors. You see how within the space of a week someone without a focus can exposed himself, without necessary forced to. Agbormbai, be coherent in your ideologies and in your discuss when addressing issues in public fora. It's good, you have come to realise that 'big book' can be lacking in certain issues. Well, Agbormbai this last one for you 'Not all educated people are civilised' have a nice day.
Posted by: Jo | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 04:39 PM
Dr AA Agbormbai
You have said it all.Keep it up with such brilliant articulation of issues of great debate and controversies.I was wondering what your opinion is regarding the litany of diversions,misrepresentations,tribal sentiments and accusations.Sometimes,the views people hold and write about could inflame a misunderstanding and plunge it into a crisis.Much that have been written about the personal views of the Chairman have been taken out of context.As a human being and a politician of a leading political party,he certainly must have erred,but if to be criticized,it should be done constuctively,rather than being subjected to such harsh accusations and ridicule.If his personal views do not augur well with the assesments that some have expressed about him,the true test of his popularity and diminishing returns will be known come the elections billed for November.
Posted by: Sap | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 04:39 PM
The moment Fru Ndi is overthrown from his seat,i will never vote for the SDF for what i see now down the wrongs of the SDF are power hungry monsters.they are not different from the CPDMs.if you cannot show leadership by covincing electorates in your constituency to vote for the SDF,where in Cameroon can they stand to convince cameroonians to vote for them in another province.
Posted by: linus | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 04:44 PM
The moment Fru Ndi is overthrown from his seat,i will never vote for the SDF for what i see now down the wrongs of the SDF are power hungry monsters.they are not different from the CPDMs.if you cannot show leadership by covincing electorates in your constituency to vote for the SDF,where in Cameroon can they stand to convince cameroonians to vote for them in another province.
Posted by: linus | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 04:45 PM
say something different
Posted by: shuche | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 05:22 PM
There is a tremendous confusion between charisma, common touch, demagogy on the one hand and efficient management.
Hitler was the former. He spoke brilliantly, was loved, won elections, had a common touch BUT HE WAS WRONG! There are thinks tanks in the SDF and it is high time NDI FRU listen to them. They may not have delivered their constutuencies during elections but they are nevertheless invaluable to the success of the party. They may not be great orators, but this does not diminish thier contibution to the party. Stop mixing aples and oranges, Jo,Elake,Crystabelle, JIKE for God's sake !
A political organization is not only run by emotional speaches and earth shattering oratory.We also need technocrats, engineers, media consultants,security officers, cooks, and what have you.Fru Ndi's mouth alone cannot do the job.
Posted by: Essemo Alenu | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 06:04 PM
Francis Nche,
You are no getting my point.I am not disputing Mukete’s facts or fictions.All I am saying is,he should be respectful.He does not need to insult the man to prove his point.In a civilized society,he should be able to use tact.Talking about Sarah supporting him,I am more than convinced that Mukete and Sarah are one and the same person.Mukete signs his name after his letter and so does Sarah.Sarah is Mukete..Read the email again and look at the time difference.Anyway,it does not matter…What matters is for him to be respectful and should not shower the Man with insults.Let him form his own party and do the magic that Cameroon needs.We can debate on this issue for decades but will this change the current situation??Still waiting..I am not supporting Ni John or Prof…All I want is for peace and tranquility to reign in the Sdf camp.It is not easy to lead and that is the bitter truth..No matter what the situation is ,you are bound to be criticized.If Mukete is the Messiah that Cameroon needs,let him save the multitude of us out here in another man’s land against our wish.I am very upset about the situation in Cameroon and very terrified.If care is not taken Cameroon in the future will have no history because of migration.Children will be completely lost in the world with no clue of who they are and where they came from because of the current Cameroon we have.I once walked into an event in the Us and noticed a family who had three generations living in the Us.I left the event feeling very depressed.There are thousands of families around the world like that.It is nooot funny..The leaders who are supposed to build our nation are helping to beautify the already developed world when they should be provided opportunities home to show their worth.If we don’t put our heads together and fish out the best leaders to deliver us from bondage,,,a day will come when all that will be left of our beloved nation will be Mvog meka,palace and the rest of the vultures…SOS.
In tears
Posted by: crystabelle | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 06:17 PM
My contributions speak for themselves and I do not need people (Sarah and the rest) to congratulate me before understanding that I write sense. Only those who have something to hide will say that there is NO sense in what I write. From the many e-mails already directed to me, I understand many people want to read from me.
I have decided not to respond to contributors by addressing their names. However, if any one dare point a destructive finger or voice directly against my person, Mukete, rest assured that I will use the same method and style to address them. My actions will even be harder than their actions. My prayere, however, is that The Post management reads previous contributions before judging any contributor.
It is NOT here that I will tell people whether or not I write sense. It is not in this forum that I will want people to praise my writing skills or grammer. From what I know, and there is no exaggeration in saying this, I AM A GOOD WRITER AND I DO SELL AS HOT CAKE FOR NEWSPAPERS - not only for The Post! This is not even important here, but I have to direct this to those people who want to discredit every aspect of Mukete.
Let those who call me illitrate, a fool, an uneducated person, etc. go through ALL my contributions with a fair mind before saying nonsense. What I write has meaning and sense than the empty threats they bring here. The fact that they have the so-called degrees, and the fact that they may be residing in "High places", do not make them any better than mukete. Far from that!
I want to state it frankly, and without reservation, that Ni John Fru Ndi and his prophets of doom have failed. I mean completely. The plans they have will lead Cameroon to nowhere. As I said before, I think it is time we take away the Leadership of the opposition from those who have conspired to auction Cameroonians to Paul Biya and his gang of thieves. After realizing that he, Ni John Fru Ndi, can not become President of this country, the man is regretting why at the beginning he refused the many bribes that he was given. That is why he is shamelessly doing everything to EAT IN ARREAS. And anyone who seems to be an obstacle in this eating exercise is threatened. The Post and the press have experienced this open intimidation from Ni John Fru Ndi. Siga Asanga, Ben Muna, Akonteh, Sani, Etc. have gone through the same treatment.
It is high time Ni John Fru Ndi leaves the political scene and gives chance to more dynamic people. He has not only failed, but he is still failing and continue to fail.He has lost his sense of purpose and if he maintains the head of the opposition in Cameroon, then Cameroonians will start lighting candle to the devil and kissing Satan.
I do not intend to spit fire. No! But I want to confirm the fact that these things who are using this forum to defend Ni John Fru Ndi, are doing everything to make me stop writing. I had reminded them time and again that I am immuned to such outdated and primitive method of intimidation. Even when Ni John Fru Ndi opens his eyes I only see rays of complete failure beaming out of them. When he smiles, I feel a smell of blackmail coming out of his mouth. I am not writing in parables. I am not writing in Banso, Bali, Bafaw or even Beti. I am writing in clean and clear English for those who are blind to facts to understand.
If these things who blindly support the destructive actions of Ni John Fru Ndi still have the slightest drop of honesty existing in them, then they would have been coping my contributions and forwarding them to their god - Ni John Fru Ndi, to give him the opportunity to learn, apologize and repent.
Instead, as if Ni John Fru Ndi has promised them some positions, these things who have specialized in poisoning people's mind against Mukete are CLEARLY diverting attention from the issues - important issues of course- that I keep raising. They have not answered any of the questions I have asked.
I want to make this clear, and if these things supporting Ni John Fru Ndi blindly continue to show that they have nothing to offer in this forum, I will make more points to show that Ni John Fru Ndi is NOT working today for the benefits of Cameroonians.
This warning: I have decided to present my facts ONLY to this forum because The Post is a puller of, and meeting place for Cameroonians. If these blind supporters of Ni John Fru Ndi continue to intimidate me (baseless intimidation of course)rather than attempting to address the points I raise, then I will have no options than sitting in my Internet Caffee here in Cameroon and exposing Ni John Fru Ndi to the International community. I will use my contributions as FUND RAISING TO BRING NI JOHN FRU NDI OUT OF OFFICE. The consequences of this action, I know, will be very heavy.
Over to those who want to intimidate Mukete. They were investigating Mukete, but after months, they still have nothing to offer.
Mukete
(Always the same)
Posted by: mukete | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 07:38 PM
Mr Essemo,
You butress a fine point there, What i meant in reference to my previous posting was that for a society to succeed and for the SDF, it's but necessary to have all asunder, a mix is good for diverse opinions, critics are bound to exist whether for good or bad. My idea was metted on the fact that a contributor alleged that most compentent contributors in the this forum were those with Doctorate degrees, which is a fallacy and the very next day alleged 'big book' is not necessary to be a good contributor in society.
The personalisation of the SDF by individuals is bad, too long in power brings in dictatorship, we all have seen that in Africa. What i see is that individuals who at one point or the other focus all attention to Fru Ndi are not true social democrates. We should not look at the individual but the ideology of the SDF. If we throw our votes on individuals rather then the ideas of the party or state, then i think democracy is a far way from us, and inpounds the point one French politician said, that democracy is a luxury for Africans. I wonder how many of these individuals, contributing here, on the SDF have taken the pain to read through the lines of the SDF manifesto. When you go through it, you will realise in a subtle way the ideas of democracy. For that, we can make meanful and justifable contributions to the crisis rocking the SDF today. If at all we feel because of changing times the manifesto is lacking in one way or the other, a review is necessary to suit it to the present day, without encouraging antidemocratic approaches.
Posted by: Jo | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 07:47 PM
MUKETE:
I sincerely think you are a good writer.But you risk ruining ur articles with too much fire and bickering with people u should ignore. Your points are indisputable but you must remember that the SDF grassroot at the Bamenda Central Market or Swine quarters speak a different language from you. You will indeed be making a fool of yourself if you keep arguing with people who sincerely believe that Fru Ndi caught a live bullet in Bafoussam or that the late DIKA AKWA walked on water ! How do you expect to make a point to those who call u a CPDM envoy as soon a u criticize the FRU NDI?
Posted by: Essemo Alenu | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 08:20 PM
When people snub at you and even intimidate you, it may be that they have been wounded by life and are merely crying out for help. Mr. Essemo Alenu, what reasonable people have learned is that, in the face of false propaganda and toothless intimidation, we have to keep our cool.
Also, when you argue with Fools - I mean Fools beginning with a capital "F"- the danger is that people may not know the diferrence between the FOOL and you. I am not saying that anything beginning with a capital "F", like Fru and Front Democratique Social (SDF) is a FOOL. You are not, for sure, going to read that from me.
When we were still young, we could only identify mad people by the fact that they move naked in the streets, picking up garbbage. Today, God forbid, we actually find mad people wearing suits and ties sitting infront of computers to tell others through the Internet what must be written in this forum.
Gone are those days when Satan used to visit us with sword and fire coming out of his mouth, and horns pointing from his head. Today - oh my God - we actually find Satan with a cross hanging from his neck and a Bible under his ampit.
Understand me please, I am not saying that through their actions, these blind supporters of Ni John Fru Ndi have demonstrated that they are mad people. This forum wouldn't read this from me. I am not also implying that through his actions, Ni John Fru Ndi has demonstrated that there is little difference between his actions and what Satan did to God. People wouldn't hear this from me neither.
Mr. Assemo Alenu, your point has been taken. Thanks. However, when prophets of doom touch bitter-leaf, it is responsibility to make sure they taste the bitterness on their finger.
Mukete
Posted by: mukete | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 09:43 PM
Mukete,
You might be talking sense but you are too full of hate.How do you refer to people as these things??I have read many of your articles for sure and when ever get the feel of trying to learn something from it,I end up having the feeling of hate you portray.Hate will not deliver us my dear brother…We have seen more than enough from our leaders and don’t need anymore from you sir.Prove your point like a mature man with no insults I insist.
Thanks
Posted by: crystabelle | Sunday, 17 July 2005 at 10:09 PM
Mukete is a confusionist.
Posted by: JB SAMBA | Monday, 18 July 2005 at 12:33 AM
SOsso
Cameroon is what it is today because of exactly what you don`t want people to say aloud.Some people are truly reaping where they did not sow and we must not allow them to transcend boundaries.Suffering is a good thing b/c it helps your mind not to be a devils workshop and u can avoid the ease with which people like Asonganyi want to run the SDF:through rumours and refusal to visit the party base.We shouldn`t even call him SG b/c he doesn`t know what is going on at the party headquaters in Bamenda.He can`t even win elections in his constituency and he wants to bandy looks with the only Cameroonian who has the privilege of being addressed "Papa" by the populace. It is b/c of presumptiousness,sycophancy,pauperism,bootlicking ,that the Ivorian society found itself b/w a rock and a hard place.In a heterogeneous setup like ours,some ethnic sensibilities are prone to praise-singing and heckling in order to keep others at arm`s length,so once in a while it is good to revisit this issues and call them to order.From the commentaries u might have perused,u discover the buffonery some of us are playing ,even though our names speak for themselves.That brings us to the idea of thinking on ethnic lines,b/c people are multiplying sobriquets in order to pour more venom on Fru Ndi.It gives readers eerie feelings b/c these pple seem to be from one region.I`m just trying to reason a loud and have nothing about the eternal bliss u find yourself in.But if it comes to bandying words ,rest assured i`m one of those who fabricate them.Let peace be with u.
Posted by: Tesih,china | Monday, 18 July 2005 at 01:19 AM
Essemo .A
Cameroon is what it is today because of exactly what you don`t want people to say aloud.Some people are truly reaping where they did not sow and we must not allow them to transcend boundaries.Suffering is a good thing b/c it helps your mind not to be a devils workshop and u can avoid the ease with which people like Asonganyi want to run the SDF:through rumours and refusal to visit the party base.We shouldn`t even call him SG b/c he doesn`t know what is going on at the party headquaters in Bamenda.He can`t even win elections in his constituency and he wants to bandy looks with the only Cameroonian who has the privilege of being addressed "Papa" by the populace. It is b/c of presumptiousness,sycophancy,pauperism,bootlicking ,that the Ivorian society found itself b/w a rock and a hard place.In a heterogeneous setup like ours,some ethnic sensibilities are prone to praise-singing and heckling in order to keep others at arm`s length,so once in a while it is good to revisit this issues and call them to order.From the commentaries u might have perused,u discover the buffonery some of us are playing ,even though our names speak for themselves.That brings us to the idea of thinking on ethnic lines,b/c people are multiplying sobriquets in order to pour more venom on Fru Ndi.It gives readers eerie feelings b/c these pple seem to be from one region.I`m just trying to reason a loud and have nothing about the eternal bliss u find yourself in.But if it comes to bandying words ,rest assured i`m one of those who fabricate them.Let peace be with u.
Posted by: Tesih,china | Monday, 18 July 2005 at 01:43 AM
MUKETE THUGS IS OPERATING UNDER 3 NAMES,SENDING DEFAMATORY MESSAGES AND THEN PRAISING HIMSELF.
Be careful,Mukete alias SARAH...
Posted by: TOM CRUISE | Monday, 18 July 2005 at 02:46 AM
Mukete, let not the pot call the kettle black. In one of your articles you said Fru Ndi is too emotional, have you not come to realize from your contributions that you are far more emotional than Fru Ndi? If you were given the chance to lead that SDF, you will swallow the whole of Cameroon, good enough you will never.
Posted by: jike | Monday, 18 July 2005 at 02:55 AM
I really sympathise with NI JOHN FRU NDI.After all what he has contributed is this what he deserves from Cameroonians who neede a change?.Where was Asonganyi in 1990 when S D F was lunched.We never heard of such a name in the list of those who sacrificed for the lauching of SDF.PROFs Anyangwe;Ngwasiri and the rest of the Founding Members who are still alive should have a say please.For quite a long time now Prof. asonganyi has been nursing his ambition of becoming the next Chairman with the exit of John Fru Ndi.You should know being a prof does not necessarily make you a good ruler.From all what you have been writing againgst the Chairman portrays that you cannot be a good ruler.Could you not even havthe slightest sympathy with Fru Ndi for such a great loss in his life.You should know that as you are behaving with him equally you will behave with your rivals if you are even elected to Head the SDF.Please I advise you to slow down the speed in which you are seeking the post of CHAIRMAN of SDF.We already have our eyes on you and your behavious.
Posted by: EYONG V. AGBOR (BELGIUM° | Monday, 18 July 2005 at 05:51 AM