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Monday, 27 February 2006

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King EL

The man's comments are so pure and filled with good ideas. I wish we had so many of his kind. Please stay clean and help us fight the devil out of the house.

Akoson

Yeah that's true King. His mind is pure. We want the 42 files he exposed brought to the limelight.

Navigae Dungta

I will like to know if the 42 files have a certain Paul Mvondo Biya? If not, then he did not do justice and did not do his job well.

Hilda

It's pretty interesting that we have people like you with clear evidence of corrupt personnel in our country. How i wish you can take the lead in cleansing the filth, we are behind you.

Fonjong

From Fonjong

42 files with names? Good.

But if Biya,s name is not on the list, the i would say Mr. Minister is kust a "playboy". Everybody likes to talk about thieves in the government without mensioning Biya. Anyone who claims to be outspoken about corruption in Cameroon without holding Biya accountable is a "bootlicker" and irresponsible.

Sucj an individual is not credible.

Abakwaboy

Give us the names in those files so that we can be able to judge the extent of popol's honesty when these people are all arrested. Why hide the names of thieves when you know you have proofs?

felix

I am afraid the corruption clean up if not properly manage will clean the government off.

ttibs

Corruption go kill Kamers OOOOOOO!
From the minister's comments, i gather he tried but it was above him.Thank God the US and World bank /IMF finally decided to push our president to the last limit.
Hope plus the 42 ,others ae still to come.May i also ask if all our boarders have been well tightened, so that what nearly occurred at the boarder with Gabon is avoided.
Tie them very well!
I now see why most of them come from a certain region , and why the Scnc CRIES Marginalisation.
Can any Anglican(English Speaking Cameroonian) be brought to book too?
I have not said they are Saints, but it portrays the 2nd fidel role they play.
Ride on Mr President, with the arrests.
We deh for ur back!

G.N.T

I am pretty sure this can't continue because Mr Biya himself is far from clean. How can you say to your friend " WIPE YOU ANUS WHENYOURS ISN'T CLEAN"

George N T

I will like Mr Biya and his associates to tell Cameroonians what crimes the arrested have committed.They have stolen gov't money is what they will tell u but the questions is (are they the only ones who have stolen gov't money?". Why aren't others too arrested .This leaves me with some doubt that there is omething more to this than just couurption because if all couurpt officials should be arrested then Mr Biya should be the first.

loveliestliusson

i think these arrested persons are the popular ones for now in biyas' list even though he biya himself is a popular corrupt president, he is afraid of the extend of corruption in cameroon. In other to caught up with pressure the popular ones should at least suffered, but the method is primitive.

Njifenztbd(U.K)

OhYes!Sir/Honourable/Lord/ Garga Haman,
Iam very, very proud of this man.He fearlessly and publicly denouced corruption putting the ruling party into total disrepute.To futher strengthen his point, he resigned as a symbol of ministerial and clinical excellence.
In the early 90's,till date, this man still has an unshakeable dignity and a pedegree of epic proportion.A shiny example/portrait in Cameroon political spectrum and album.

fai

We wants those 42 files and we know that the Etoundi guy name is there, that is why he want hand the files now.WE want that money back and their properties taken, and handed them back to the cameroonian people.Thanks God that we have nice guy like him to help.

fai

We wants those 42 files and we know that the Etoundi guy name is there, that is why he cann,t hand the files now.WE want that money back and their properties taken, and handed them back to the cameroonian people.Thanks God that we have nice guy like him to help.

Limbemoneydoubler


I don't get it.

If you have the names, proof and evidence of currupt government officials then reveal the information.

If you are afraid to do so openly then do so in secret.

Without that you are wasting everyone's time because you have not told us anything new. Everyone knows there is curruption in Cameroon.

What we need is proof

stanley

I wonder where we are going to with the names of the corrupt,or why we even arrest and keep them in jail,that's all right by the law, but a wiser thing to do is to FIRST
collect all the money they stole and also publish,if they squandered some, no big deal , we need the rest , our problem is not only the people but we also need the money even more than their arrest,their sentence will not do any good to me in particular, pease let 's thin in this direction.

Fritzane Kiki

It's a good sign of digging those caught in these malpractices of embezzlement.It is never too late to continue with this fight against these first class thieves.Why do we have to appoint these rogues to big government positions and imprison the small thieves.They should start from the ministers then go down to the police and so on...

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Teno p

The names in this 42 fils should be give so that after this clean up Cameroonians can jurge what Mr Biya is trying to do.For this can be a strategy for by the president to get surport from IMF and WB.As we all know Mr Biya should take him self to cout so that he can be jurge for corruption, he should tell us how much he has stolen from the state ie from petrol money, he should tell us where he got money to build the palace at Mvomeka.

chief whip

Dear Mr. Haman Garga,
Please, do Cameroonians and posterity this favour: Keep that list (of 42 names) very secured. We fully understand your apprehension in publicising the names now.

The new breed of Cameroonians, some of whose "voices" you probably are hearing on this forum, will need that list in not too distant future. Should any of those on the list pass away before this time, their children and grand children will answer.

Chief Whip.

Ngang Roalnd

If I am given the opportunity to assessed Former minister in charge of Public commision at the state control (Haman Garga), I will say he is a straight forward Cameroonian. To me, I beleive is because of the corrupt Government we are toiling in, that made him to put off the coat of the State by resigning.I wish all Cameroonians to follow the example of this individual.Reasons why most graduate from Universities, Politechnics and others has no interest of this "fucking country" Cameroon.

Njifenztbd(U.K)

Limbemoneydoubler,
How can people take your point serious when you shadow yourself with such a dubious name?

Jimmystan

I really think Mr Haman Garga should mention these names to enable Biya to know all of them. I know those in his list are not the only ones but were the notorious when Garga Haman was minister of Public service. Please talking without giving the names is just as if u are making campaining.
Pleaes give the names to Cameroonians

mukete

When people blame the government for the deteriorating business atmosphere in the country, they should, at least, say the plain naked truth. They should praise the tough measures that the government has put in place, even if these measures are against their selfish interests. Most Bush Fallers are blaming the government ONLY because the same government has put in place measures that prevent them (Bush Fallers) from coming home to promote bribery and corruption.

People should not be hanging on baseless excuses to defend their sad state of self-enslavement abroad and unpatriotism. True, Biya and his gang of thieves are doing harm to the country and its economy. But this is NO reason why some Cameroonians would prefer to become slaves abroad instead of returning home. It is sad to hear Cameroonians living abroad always presenting the "unfavourable business climate" in the country as reason why they prefer to die abroad. It is even disturbing when one realizes that the majority of these Cameroonians living abroad - excuse me - do NOT even know what it means starting and running a business. Some of them, unfortunately, relate business to the act of shipping down old and out-dated items they used to bring when white men used to throw their rejected items into the streets.

We all know of Cameroonians who have returned home and are doing extremely well without any connections with any power that be. I am talking of hundreds of thousands who have abandoned hardship and stress abroad and are doing great jobs here in Cameroon. I am talking of MANY Cameroonians who have returned home, are active members of the opposition, but are doing real business here in Cameroon. There are all over: in the Universities, Ministries, Companies and especially private businesses. Most of them run NGOs, private health centres, etc.

If Cameroonians who took the risk to resign from the government and are open opponents to the regime in place, can be doing extremely well in their businesses and daily activities inside Cameroon, then why should Cameroonians coming PEACEFULLY from abroad, with no threats to the government, not do the same?

There is no dying of the fact that the fight against corruption remains a big obstacle to some of those Cameroonians who have decided to remain slaves abroad. Before, they used to return home with out dated cars, refrigerators, computers that were manufactured before Christ birth, Television sets with insects, matrasses with bed bugs, radio-sized mobile phones, flying pans and pots still having traces of decayed rice and tomatoe source, women under-wares with signs of menstruation, breast-wares, waist slips, men's pants with traces of brown sperms, bed sheets with blood, pair of sucks carrying condoms loaded with sperms, etc.

At the Sea port in Douala, these unpatriotic Bush Fallers would swell the pockets of custom and security officers with money rather than paying them directly into state coffers. These very Bush Fallers were those corrupting police officers on the way as they drive their noise-generating and pollution-distributing cars from abroad. These were the very Bush Fallers who would used cheap Euros, Pounds, and dollars to sexually pollute our cities, deceiving our little girls in the University of Buea, taking their things" without pay" but with the usual promise that, "I will make you fall Bush when I return." These are the very Bush Fallers who return home only to dupe poor parents and take huge sums of money from them, with the usual promise that they will make their children fall Bush.These are the Bush Fallers who would return home and would not allow anything carrying a skirt, breast-ware, waist-slip go unchecked. These are the Bush Fallers who caused hearbreak and destroyed marriages whenever they return home.

When real rigour and moralization was instituted at the Douala ports, these failed and unpatriotic Cameroonians had no other way to steal the nation's wealth as they have been doing before. Unwilling to put in deserved money into state coffers, they now sit back and make loud and careless noise. Instead of praising the government for doing the right thing, they are shedding crocodie's tears. These are people who only visited Cameroon only after having picked outdated items abroad to come and sell home, so as to generate the money needed, or to compensate for, their return flight tickets. These are selfish Bush Fallers who would collect dresses - free - from churches and charitable organizations abroad and come to sell them at expensive prices in Cameroon.

If they think that sound business atmosphere is only that which will permit them ship our money abroad, then to hell with the business they dream about making in Cameroon. If they think sound business atmosphere implies lifting the tough measures at the ports of entry for them to come and start bribery and corruption again, then to hell with their business plans. If they think sound business atmosphere means giving them the green light to come and corrupt our security, customs and little daughters, then they should remain slaves abroad for life. When we talk about business, we mean real business, and not coming home to sell the toxic materials they pick from streets abroad.

I am not saying that the government is perfect. Far from that. But I stand behind some of the important measures put in place, even if Bush Fallers have been prevented from duping the country and its people. I stand solidly behind any government measures aimed at preventing Bush Fallers from polluting our country with the toxin materials they used to bring home. I even hope tougher measures be put in place.

Mukete

Ambe

WHEN GUYS COMMENT ABOUT A SUBJECT MATTER, ILLETARETS LIKE MUKETE DO SOMETHING ELSE.

winston m.t

Thank god,biya has started this long awaited campaign.most of us living out of the country held a meeting in johannesburg yesterday and unanimousely decided we were coming back home if there is a change.let this job continue,the cameroon is surely becaming promising.home again again,when shall i see my home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rexon

Hello Mukete,
You seem to look only at the negative side of travelling abroad. You should try to be realistic. you failed to see the beautiful houses that has been built all over the country by this bushfallers, you failed to recognise changes in the financial structures of the country as a result of this bushfalling, you failed to read and understand that even international institutions like the world bank have realised that the contributions this bushfallers make to their economy is better than the amount of aid international bodies give to developing countries. I personally have held meetings with Western Union, moneygram officials here in the UK to discuss strategies of expanding and developing their businesses in africa. i therefore had the opportunity to read the figures of the amount of money sent back home by bushfallers abroad. It was huge sums of money. On a yearly basis, the figures are bigger than the values of several high profile institutions in cameroon. Tole tea for example was sold for small amount of billions, but remittances from cameroonians living only in leeds for example in a single year is more than 1.5 times that amount. Does the government exposes this statistics to you? the answer is no. they want to give the impression that this free people have nothing to offer to the country of origin.
There is no problem travelling abroad when things are hard for you because of maybe your colour, your race or your traditional backgroud. in sweden and other scandinavian countries, the swedes travelled in their thousands to several places in the north america when things were hard for them. Also in ireland, the irish emigrated to north america and to other parts of the UK when things were difficult for them. Then whats wrong with southern cameroonians and other citizens of la republique du cameroun when the political system is such a mess? as for the case of southern cameroonians, dont you think they need a passport at least that they can be pround of? dont you know even elisabeth bassong does not recognise any southern cameroonian who does not speak french in his embassy as a cameroonian? dont you know they call us nigerians in Moscow, Bonn, brussels, etc, simply because of our linguistic background?
As a southern Cameroonian who knew i can offer something to my country, i did not see the need to stay in a country whose system will never recognised the talents i possess and how it can contribute to the economic development of their country. I decided to move abroad. Fortunately, the systems i have met have developed me at what i consider a very high level. As a trained investment banker turned stock market researcher, i have more to contribute to my country than here in the united kingdom. But what should we do? Do you want us to rush into a system that does not recognise talents? that reduces academics like the Nejuma's, the chumbows, the endeleys, the lambis to mere handclappers for political appointments rather than active academic researchers? It is entirely a rotten system and we must admit that. I will be very proud if every southern cameroonian can run from that rotten system and concentrate on remittances from abroad.
Yes some bushfallers will come home and misbehave which is morally unacceptable. but we should not use the action of a few to reflect a wider network of individuals most of which will even be scared of moving around after coming from abroad. The few you see are those who want to be seen, but a reasonable majority will be concerned with meaningful projects they have back home, like building houses, investing on other businesses, etc.
Please Mukete, try to be realistic, you seem to suggest that bushfalling in this very hard times in a curse and not a blessing to cameroon. In my view, the soo called bushfallers of which i think i am not one have contributed more the economic development of their respectives countries.

Njei Moses Timah

Rexon,
I agree with your points. I live in Cameroon but I support our brothers and sisters in the diaspora. Their contribution to the economy is substantial. Most of you went out there because there are no opportunities for you at home. Our wish is that you earn your money honestly and behave honourably. I know that when the political and economic climate becomes favourable, most of you will come back to join us build our country. This has happened in many countries and Ghana is a clear example.
Njei M. Timah
http://www.njeitimah-outlook.com

mukete

To be a man, you must learn to withstand your problems. If you run, you will never stop running in life.

... but as bush fallers run away from the "problems" in Cameroon to seek seemingly better opportunities abroad, who do they expect to change things for the better in Cameroon? Their parents in the villages? The unborn? The unfortunate?

And if every Cameroonian could get the opportunity to fall bush, then who will remain and effect the necessary changes in Cameroon? Will Cameroon be left only for the few who make it?

So those who fall bush are sending money back home, only to return when others have used their blood and sweat to make things better? Should we be governed by opportunities through out our journey on earth?

Yes Bush Fallers may send money back home. Does this means that what Cameroonians back home need is bread? "Man does not live by bread alone."

And how many are they, who would be successful elsewhere when they can not be successful in their owen country of birth?

To be a man, you must learn to withstand your problems. If you run, you will never stop running in life.


Mukete

ngum

So called bushfalling is nothing new. People have always moved to different lands when things were politically or economically unbearable in their homelands. If they maintain sentimental or family connections they are the ones who return to build with new skills and new money. IT HAS ALWAYS HAPPENED. BUSHFALLERS ARE AN ASSET, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AN ASSET IN ANY COUNTRY. It is really none of your f$$

mukete

More than 90% of all those bringing Cameroon down to its knees and actually killing the economy of the country are former BUSH FALLERS. From president Paul Biya, through almost all the ministers, Governors, District officers, senior divisional officers, Directors, Sub-directors, chair persons of Companies, University Chancellors, and many others who are destroying the economy of the country, more than 90% had lived abroad as BUSH FALLERS before returning home.

And when they were living abroad, they too, used to send pounds, Euros, German Marks, and Dollars to Cameroon. They too used to criticize the government and the degradating business atmosphere in the country. They too used to complain about the mess in Cameroon and presented the government of late president Amadou Ahidjo as inefficient and destructive. They too, used to write volumes about the sad financial and managerial situation in Cameroon, and gave the world the impression that they left the country because the opportunities weren't there. They too gave the impression that their main problem was the giovernment in place. They too gave the impression that they have many business plans and initiatives with them, but when they returned home, they diverted all these original intentions into stealing.

But when they returned to Cameroon and took up positions of responsibilities, they used the seemingly high knowledge they have picked abroad just to play over the intelligence of Cameroonians and to kill the economy. These returned Bush Fallers are those who know better how to steal and export our monies abroad; they know better how to manipulate figures and accounts; they know better how to divert state money from abroad into private foreign accounts; they know how to use big words and financial concepts to deceive the innocent; they know the principles and they know better that the computer gives back only that that which it receives.

Where is the guarantee, therefore, that the current BUSH FALLERS who are shouting in the wilderness abroad will not do the same when they, too, happily, return to Cameroon? Where is the guarantee that these very Bush Fallers who are using this forum to propose solutions that they can not apply, will not also rush to eat state money immediately they return home? Should we merely believe the tons of cry-die they write, when we know that those presently killing the country and its economy were BUSH FALLERS who were crying the same way before retuning home? With the high Computer literacy of the current Bush Fallers, should we not, instead, be afraid of their return? Will they not manipulate the computers and figures better than their uncle Bush Fallers like the Biyas, Owonas, etc. when they are given positions of responsibilities in Cameroon? Will they not know know better how to bite and blow at the same time?

What is the difference between Bush Fallers of yesterday and Bush Fallers of today? What makes the current Bush Fallers harmless? It is no secret that the situations that current Bush Fallers now find themselves abroad is worst than the ones that former Bush Fallers passed through. Who can therefore be the most dangarous thief? A former Bush Faller or a current one?

I have no problem with Bush Fallers, even if it is my patriotic responsibility to refuse my fellow brothers and sisters from becoming SLAVES in another man's land. My main concern here is to let people understand that Bush Fallers do not carry the keys of Cameroon's salvation, and that those who presently kill our country and economy have been experienced Bush Fallers before returning home. So telling the world that they live in the USA, Europe, etc. does not add any credibility to their managerial skills. Instead it sends shock waves through the spines of those who have love for our country - and there is no secret that my country comes first even before myself. True!

I challenge Bush Fallers to give detail description of the business ventures they claim to have in mind. Writing volumes about business and stating that Cameroonians are doing business abroad does NOT give the guarantee that the same Cameroonians would do the same in Cameroon. Success in any venture is strongly influenced by the geographical location of the business. It is not because a Cameroonian has a tomatoe or protitution business in the USA that he will do well in business in Cameroon. People like Fotso and many other billionairs here in Cameroon did not need to start business abroad before becoming what they are today in Cameroon. These are people who started by selling cigarettes in the streets. Do not ask me how many of such people are in Cameroon, because I would ask for the number of Cameroonians doing successful business abroad.

We have Cameroonians based here in Cameroon, who have never been Bush Fallers in their lives, but who are not only doing real business here in Cameroon, but are doing same all over Africa, Europe and even in the USA. I did not need to start business abroad before being blessed to be employing Bush Fallers here in Cameroon.

Please kindly spare us this outdated songs on "Bush Fallers are doing this and that..."

Mukete

Dylan

This Garga man is an opportunist, one of those politicians struggling to stay in the lime light, just like Prof. Asonganyi & Co. If he had a list since 92, why did he stay quiet until now that there is a "disguised manhunt" for embezzlers in the country. I think he is just trying to tell the people "I'm still here". This is pure lip service.

NjifenztBD(U,K)

Hey Dylan!
your opinion is good there.'Make hay when the sun shines' relates a famous adage.There is some dirty game behind the scene which clearly justifies his opportunism thus destroying the whole purpose of good governaunce.But i think he is aware of having outlived his usefulness.

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