By Kini Nsom
The Divisional Coordinator of
the Social Democratic Front, SDF in Lebialem, Hon. Dr. Michael Ndobegang, has qualified some of his party officials who recently decamped to the CPDM as opportunistic squatters.
"They are more of opportunistic squatters than committed house builders who decided to move on as they are used to," said Dr. Ndobegang, a former Member of Parliament, MP, to The Post in Yaounde, April 19.
In a tacit reference to the former SDF Assistant Communication Secretary, Martin Nkemngu and others who decamped to the CPDM, in Lebialem two weeks ago, Ndobegang said:"I will let them live with the consequences of their actions."
Quoting the former US President, Ronald Regan (RIP), Ndobegang said, "If you cannot stand the heat get out of the kitchen".
In another aphoric expression, he added "I will be surprised if this saying, by the wildest imagination, would have meant getting out of the kitchen and landing in a furnace."
He said, for the carpet-crossers to swing from the SDF to the CPDM suggests a horrible sense of judgment, and is indicative that they are all opportunists.
Hon. Ndobegang, who resigned as SDF Interim Secretary General, after Prof. Tazoacha Asonganyi was thrown out, scorned the recent CPDM conference in the Lebialem capital of Menji, as a farcical comedy that was acted to deceive only fools that the CPDM is all-powerful in that area.
While admitting that Nkemngu resigned with just a few militants, he said it was a ridiculous exaggeration for anybody to claim that he resigned with 300 militants.
He said the terrible exaggeration, which was intended to ridicule the SDF, has done the contrary because, "They have exposed the blatant inconsistencies and the dubious nature of the people who gave these figures.
According to him, it is unbelievable that at a CPDM meeting in Menji, which by itself has never pulled crowds of that nature, 300 SDF militants were not only in attendance but spontaneously decamped to the CPDM.
He said a majority of the so-called carpet-crossers were not SDF militants, but CPDM militants who were normally attending their meeting.To him, claims that over 300 SDF militants decamped to the CPDM is outrageous; a blatant lie intended to deceive only the gullible.
Ndobegang said even one of the defectors, Francis Anu, declared in a local tabloid that, "His own imaginary 70 SDF militants decamped to the CPDM." Reacting to allegations that he and Prof. Asonganyi were also in Lebialem, ready to join the CPDM that day, Dr. Ndobegang said such a story was the figment of the imagination of the carpet-crossers.
He said to the best of his knowledge only Nkemngu, Dr. Fomin, a NEC member, and a few others resigned.
When asked about the state of his party in Lebialem, Ndobegang said the party was healthy and militants serene. Whether militants were not disillusioned by the conflict currently ailing the party, Ndobegang retorted, "The militants are certainly worried but looking forward to the resolutions of whatever problems are rocking the stability of the party."
He added that such a situation does not in anyway challenge the conviction of his militants that the CPDM cannot be the vector of change in Cameroon.
CROSSING CARPET IS A FORM OF DEMOCRACY BUT.....
Anybody is free to choose a party that he/she thinks manifests his political ideology.
But the strange thing is that, people are not just leaving SDF. They are leaving SDF for CPDM. What has these wo parties got in common?
If the CPDM is known to be one of the world,s most corrupt parties, and we find people switching from other parties to it, then it shows that those carpet-crossers have hidden agenda. It actually shows that they were not actually members of the party/parties they abandoned.
So, nobody should regret if people leave the SDF for CPDM. It makes some ense if someone would resign from SDF and then fom his own party.
Posted by: FONJONG | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 12:27 PM
This is how a man should reason.There is no house without problems.You only know a man depending on his approach on resolving an issue.
I know Mukete will be quick to call you Fru Ndi`s blind supporter,since to him anybody that says anything positive about the SDF is a blind supporter of Fru Ndi.
Let the ball roll
Posted by: Fon Lawrence | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 12:29 PM
Martin Nkemngu and co are a disgrace to Lebialem, to Cameroon and the opposition as a whole. Infact, there is no true opposition in Cameroon. All these so called opposition parties are but another sub-section of the CPDM.
The fact that within one month of his resignation from the SDF, Nkemngu should decamp to the CPDM shows that his romancing with CPDM did not start only now. In fact it goes to affirm the stories that there is a degree of romance within the CPDM and the SDF at the detriment of the Cameroon people.
I had expected that, if Nkemngu was resigning from the SDF he should join the Southern Cameroons struggle just like Nfor, Mukong, Taku and others did.
That Nkemngu who once over Cameroon Calling lambasted the CPDM should now be dinning with the CPDM is beyond words. This is ‘langa’ in the highest coefficient
Funny enough, when one reads the commits from some SDF supporters on this site, you see them jubilating. If there is one thing I got from Ndoki Mukete was, ‘ if them insult your papi e woman them di thief, no laugh because your mami day among.
Therefor the whole SDF are a group of feymen.
Posted by: Morfaw Rene | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 12:30 PM
Why should they be considered a disgrace to anybody? They have their motives (which appears to be very dubious) but still it is their choices and by the end of the day everybody is responsible for the choices that they make.
Fon Ndoh made his choices and many labelled him with various derogatory names but yet he sticked to his choices (probably knowing the consequences) and may still make thesame choices if history was reversed to give him a second chance.
Why should some people think that SCNC is the altimate choice that everybody should embrace? Just as much as some anglophone Cameroonians are tied to the CPDM, or are willing to sell their souls to the "devil", so too are others ready to distance themselves from this thing called the SCNC.To this group of Cameroonians,it has no future and is just another conspiracy to serve selfish agendas.
You might hold the SCNC in high esteem (which yoiu have every right to) but mind you that nobody has the right to drag others to the choices that he or she makes.
Posted by: Tita Mofaw | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 01:00 PM
The retired honourable did not say anything concerning Fru Ndi,Fon Lawrence.That the sdf has crises speaks volumes we know where the problems are coming from and know how these problems need solving.
In his resignation letter as interim SG of the sdf which was published in this forum we all know what he said of Fru Ndi's manner in managing the party.
These guys all know Fru ndi is the problem rocking the sdf and Ngwasiri once said some are afraid to tell the Dictator off.
If we have to save the sdf Fru ndi must step down.He is the problem.
Vally
England.
Posted by: vally | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 01:07 PM
How long will it take Cameroonians to understand that there is no government in place in Cameroon. All we have is a bunch of liars and thieves. It is a shame that they are accepting now that there have a problems of CORRUPTION in Cameroon. No one in his right mind will join the present Government party in Cameroon. I spent ten years of my life working in the Magistrate Court Limbe and High Court in Buea. Those who doubt my integrity should ask Justice Inglis and Chief Justice Endeley. My colleagues who were accepting bribe in those days went straight to the drinking places after work. It has been my considered opinion that bribe is duplicity which is bad for public policy---my opinion since thirty-five years ago has built a solid and unshakeable foundation---the Biya Presidency have showed in all forms and shapes that there are destroyers and not fixers. My fellows, Southern Cameroonians, we should be ashamed to continue to follow people who have no sense of direction and no conscience. Take for instance, the roads from Limbe (Victoria) to Kumba were tarred in the fifties and after over fifty years, the roads are nightmares. My humble suggestion is that we should consolidate ourselves and get out of a system which is only interested in its stomach. In 2003, Cardinal Tumi warned that unemployed graduates are "raw materials for war", he was blamed for encouraging war. His vision came through last week when Southern Cameroonians were being enlisted for military training. Last year, in his State of Union speech, President George Bush said "FREEDOM IS A GIFT FROM GOD", of course, not from whoever claims to be the most powerful individual in the world---such a person will die but SOUTHERN CAMEROON WILL LIVE FOR EVER. Nkombengo of Greater Washington.
Posted by: Nko Mbengo | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 01:35 PM
The exchange of comments below the story on appointment of "ambassadors" and "high commissioners" is about the most constructive I've ever read on The Post newsline: a well-meaning, straight-to-the-point complaint, an honest question in good faith and a response with as much clarity as the contributor could afford.
This is the spirit that should reign among good people, compatriots who put their fatherland above little personal, parochial, petty guerrilla agendas.
God bless Cameroon.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 03:34 PM
Vally
I doubt your English comprehension ability.Go back and verify if I mentioned some where in the above write up that honorable Ndobegang said any thing about Fru Ndi.
I simply appreciated him for speaking constructively and not saying things that are detrimental to the SDF as you and Mukete will always want.
To repeat what I said in simple English so that you can understand;I said he spoke positively about the SDF and that you and Mukete will not be happy to here someone speak positively about the SDF,because to you, any one who says anything which is not intended to destroy the SDF is a "blind" supporter of Fru Ndi
Posted by: Fon Lawrence | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 04:01 PM
Hon. Dr. Ndobegang, you are fully right using President Regan's quote "If you cannot stand the heat get out of the kitchen". I believe getting out of the heat means making a choice you deem best. I think for any right thinking Cameroonian who claims to be in the opposition and then decamp to join CPDM has never been in the opposition in the first place. People like Martin Nkemgu and the others were spies working for the oppressive regime we have and pretending to be millitants of the opposition. These are people who contribute to the sufferings of Cameroonians by continuously fuelling the activities of the oppressive regime we have in place for their selfish individual welbeings while the majority of Cameroonians are knashing their teeth for survival. In my opinion these doubious individuals and their offsprings owe reparations to Cameroonians. Thess people wilfully delay the advancement of democracy in our country and encourage the clinging to power of the most corrupt regime in the world in our country increasing the sufferings of the common Cameroonian and portraying a bad image about our country to the outside world. Never mind, you will one day pay for your actions. Where is Saddam Husein, Idi-Amin, Mobutuh and many others? It will one day rain on your roofs. I nearly jumped out of the window one morning while in Europe taking breakfast in a shared kitchen with other students when one of my neighbours came to me and said, i just found out from the papers that Cameroon is the most corrupt country in the world. I was dumbfounded and could not say a word. She went further by showing me that look, our country (hers) is the least corrupt country in the world. They all burst into laughter. Bros and sis, i had the worst breakfast ever in my life. I tried to no avail to convince this girl and the others. I believe from that day she never trusted whatever thing that comes out from my mouth. The questions i will like to ask Cameroonians: 1) what future are we building for our offsprings (children)?
2) what image are we portraying to the outside world about our country?
3) Should we fold our arms and watch our beloved country dragged to mudd by some individuals?
I will be very grateful if learned colleagues of this forum will bring up suggestions on how we can contribute to bring the much needed change in Cameroon. I am not a politician but i strongly believe that a change in Cameroon through politics in recent times seems impossible if the mentality of our people doesnot change. Those in power understand the sufferings and weakness of the needy and are therefore manipulating them at their will to remain in power. I will end here for now and i very much appreciate the contributions of all those in the house.
" Every opinion counts-even a fool has something to say"
Posted by: Menjoh (Sherbrooke/Canada) | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 04:17 PM
In matters of politics,I strictly neutral given my apolitical nature.
An American student was once asked who was the better candidate for president and she issued this disgusting indictment of a remark . "ALL POLITICIANS ARE CROOKS".Kindly disprove me with facts and I'll gladly defer to you.
From Ngwasiri Mr. Fru Ndi Ebibi-SDF ,Biya and CPDM, one thing counts-what are my interests,cut of the deal, etc.I for one would take personal responsibility for my life rather than mortgage it to power drunk ego maniacs whose sole goal is to cling onto power like tigers while their claws bleed the populace to emaciation and misery.
Small wonder Late Fela Ransome Kuti formed his Kalakuta Republic declaring a maganate like Abiola -ITT or International Thief Thief!
Shumbu politicians!
Ngonyama
Posted by: The Ngonyama (Lion) of Brooklyn | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 04:36 PM
Mr Ndobegang,
I don't wanna believe Fru Ndi has brainwashed you as he has been doing.Even Charles Taylor the butcher,before he left monrovia,had some supporters.But, they are of the minority.For Fru Ndi, to test his popularity,the SDF should organize a free and fair election.Fru will come out as the loser and it shouldn't take place in Bamenda for that's what he wants so that his opponents would be harrassed and molested.That would not work.For a free election to take place it should be out of Bamenda.Many SDF conventions have taken place in Bamenda.Is that the only town that can host a convention? There is a conspiracy here and you will all see during and after the convention.I will re-iterate that Fru Ndi should step down to save the party.We should look at the future before making our judgments.
Question:Can the SDF under Fru Ndi win the Presidency and more seats in the house and councils?
My answer is NO, because he has proven his weaknesses and has also proven his shortcomings.He has lost two presidential elections,loose more seats than expected in the parliament and more council seats.He has helped to deepened differences between fellow members and has made the party to be concerntrated in the northwest province.The SDF has lost its momentum in the Littoral,Southwest,West,Center,East and the South provinces.What a fall and a shame under Fru Ndi's rule.He will never recover from that fall and I donot see anybody helping him to revive himself.
Power to the people and equal opportunity.
Fru Ndi should resign.
Posted by: LeBAMS | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 06:26 PM
LeBAMS
...Even the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story...
Posted by: JB Samba | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 07:26 PM
Dear All,
The exchange of comments below the story on appointment of "ambassadors" and "high commissioners" is about the most constructive I've ever read on The Post newsline: a well-meaning, straight-to-the-point complaint, an honest question in good faith and a response with as much clarity as the contributor could afford.
Please browse over and read it.
This is the spirit that should reign among good people, compatriots who put their fatherland above little personal, parochial, petty guerrilla agendas.
God bless Cameroon.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 April 2006 at 07:42 PM
JB Samba,
That is the best respond to LeBAMS.On the other hand,I think his a child who is struggling to grow.If he keeps track of this kind of write up;one day he will come back to it and wonder if he was the one who wrote it.
Posted by: Fon Lawrence | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 12:25 AM
DAY 2. FASTING AND PRAYERS CONTINUE...
TAKING A BREAK!
I AM ORGANISING A ONE WEEK FASTING AND PRAYER.
I wish to announce publicly that I'm taking a break from replying to querries and making contributions on this forum. I think that some writers need serious spiritual care and attention. I really do sincerely pity them especially in the situation where even in obvious cases, they can't still see. The above article is not something we ought to brainstorm about. It speaks for itslef. Only posessed persons like Mukete will do. I'll NOT relent my efforts from exorcising this drunkard, dullard and idiot. Modern medicines as they think, can't do the trick...ONLY GOD. Only God, I re-iterate. I therefore call on members to go on fasting and prayers. Just what I'm about doing. I regret any inconveniences my absence may cause.
So, Klemenceau, Fon Lawrence, Watesih, knganjo, Henry Alex, Aaron Nyangkwe, Boy, Atemangy Awunjia Terrence, Washow and the rest of this think factory I enjoin you to continue the struggle. I'll be back in about a week time.
Stay blessed and keep praying.
Love you all.
Fasting and Praying Son Of Ako - London School Of Economics And Political Science.
.
Posted by: Akoson | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 12:33 AM
Morfaw Rene,
I agree with you 100% that these political prostitutes are a disgrace to Cameroon. In our struggle for political emancipation, people should have their political opinions and hold strong to them. The only problem I see is that neither the SDF nor the CPDM has any real fundamental political ideology that people hold. What we see is selfish interests. But I am not one to get into that.
Tita Mofaw,
These people displaying their political prostitution are a disgrace to Cameroon. Simply because Cameroon needs a critical mass of enlightened people to move us forward. We need each and everyone. That is why, I will come after you when you preach tribal hatred. Thank you for adopting the idea in my previous posting that each man should be accountable for his/her actions. Thank God, you did not choose to bash "Mbanwa" people in this case. May be because a "Mbanwa" person was speaking sense in the article.
Ngonyama,
Political neutrality is synonymous with ignorance but I will leave you where you want to stay. Suffice it to say that it was an American President JFK who said "the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in the face of a moral crisis choose to profess their neutrality." Politicians are crooks, you say. Though I am inclined to disagree with you, I will accept that opinion. And ask you to present an alternative to the political system we now have. One which of course excludes politicians. Give that to us and we will glad you make you emperor of Cameroon.
Akoson,
Thank heavens you are going to spare us your match with the mukete camp. I honestly think all of you waste enough time coming up with new ways of insulting each other. Whether it is telepathic medical procedures or religious hogwash. In any case, please do not waste your time going without food. For the Bible clearly says in Isaiah that true fasting is taking care of widows, orphans and the needy. That is true fasting. I urge you to adopt a kid in Cameroon and send the kid fifty pounds a month for his/her education. That is true fasting. If we all do it, we can save a child from hunger and educate them for better democracy tomorrow. Not insults. And since you have Jesus Christ in your life, you do not need to fast. That was Jesus' answer when asked why his disciples did not fast. Now spare us the religious stories and stick to the topic at hand.
Posted by: Ashwell Molaba | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 03:39 AM
LeBAMS
"...Even the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story..." (JB Samba)
I couldn't have thought of a better response to LeBAMS.I hope we all get the picture by the end of the day
Posted by: Tita Mofaw | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 04:11 AM
Dear Readers,
Its my very first. Just want to make a very short comment.
It amazes me how quick we try to rubbish the comments of others. There is only one thing that can make us move forward; accepting that people may have different views and are entitled to air them. Wise people seek to find out why but foolish and selfish people quickly rubbish them.
Anyway, you guys should keep suffocating one another mentally as the whole political life wire of the country goes down the drain.
When democracy fails, Dictatorship takes its place breeding Anarchy. Anarchy leads to Apathy. Apathy leads to Frustration and Hatred.The product is war. War begotten bullets and bombs.
And Bombs and Bullets are not a respecter of persons, not even Fru Ndi, Paul Biya, Ngwasiri or you and I, the ordinary Cameroonians.
I have seen war and dead. Not Good.
May God Safe Cameroon.
Agbor Enow
Freetown, Sierraleone
Posted by: Agbor Enow | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 04:56 AM
Dear Readers,
Sorry about this posting that has got no relation to this topic. But I am placing it here bcos many will read it as they delve into our political problems. Read below and help to warn your sister or brother in UB
WARNING! WARNING! HEALTH HAZARD
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am really touched by the high level of incidents of HIV/ AIDS in the South West Province inparticular and Cameroon in general.
People are becoming more aware of this scourge and are doing all they can to adopt the right attitudes. I am particularly concerned with our young brothers and sisters in the University of Buea. Please, there is this very rich man, with a BIG TURBO going around spreading the HIV virus. Please be aware and do all you can to avoid him. He is ready and willing to give you huge sums of money to have unprotected sex with you and condemn you a life of humiliation, pain and slow death. There are many girls who have already falling victim and have passed the virus to their unsuspecting boyfriends. Please, lets stand up as a people and condemn such wicked men and their attitudes.
We cannot win the war against HIV/AIDS if we fail to expose such individuals and hold them accountable for their crimes.
Please, I repeat, this man is a rich and influential figure. Eventhough he flies to Europe regularly to get Antivirals, he knows he is living on burrowed time. And he is hell bent on infecting as many young girls as possible. UB Girls be WARNED and be AWARE that you are his target. He lives in Douala and comes in regularly to kill you.
Please DONOT let this happen to you or your beloved sister or brother.
Heed my advice and avoid this so called MBOMA.
I will not name names but might resolve to giving you some hints of this individual .
Concerned Molyko Resident
Posted by: Molyko | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 05:40 AM
Son of Ako
Without insulting you I would like to ask you what kind of fasting you are indulging in when there is an ongoing political game of insults between you and the other fellow's camp ? Haven't u read what the bible says that if you bring your gift to the altar and discovers you have odd against your neighbour ,better leave it there, go first reconcile with your neighbour then you can offer to God?
You have rightly named your team members above while going for your fasting? Are you kidding or insulting God if really you wanna fast? Gentleman if this valuable time you guys spend here bickering ,insulting ,lambasting and tearing down yourselves could be chanelled to some useful discussion on some projects back home,then that would be a worthwhile initiative.
In any case fast but fast aright
God save Cameroon
Tayong
Posted by: Tayong(Copenhagen) | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 05:40 AM
Yea Molyko!
If only people could face the reality in Cameroon the country could maybe get out of its' trauma.
I feel really bad for those young boys in UB.They should restrain from all activities that involves the transmission of body fluids with the UB girls.
I say so because it seems those who are importing HIV to the institutions are the chics who often are compensated with huge sums of money by their employers (the mbomas).So, even if they become infected with the virus,atleast, they are well compensated and have enough money to take care of themselves.
My innocent young guys,I sometimes pity you because these girls, despite their HIV status (and the huge salary that they receive) they still demand the small pocket allowance that you squeeze from your parents.
Posted by: Tita Mofaw | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 06:49 AM
Tayong,
Thanks for your comments.
Posted by: Ashwell Molaba | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 07:06 AM
I am sure Dr. NDOBEGANG is now regretting for having heeded to the advise of Mr. NKEMNGU and Co. to resign the Secretary Generalship of the SDF. I am sure he now knows that he came to the SDF as NDOBEGANG Michael, period! He should do more to cleanse his image.
Posted by: Atangha | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 08:39 AM
Fon Laurence, Valley has never learnt to say anything positive about Fru Ndi.That is why he gets panics anytime someone speaks favourably about the sdf.When one sounds positive he or she is a blind Fru Ndi supporter.If there is anything we want some of them to understand is the unity of the sdf.A fragmented sdf is will never benefit anyone.That is what we stand for in this forum.To fellows like Valley Fru Ndi is the only problem in the sdf.This to me is wrong.NEC in general carries part of the blame.Does it make any sense for any sinior militant of the party like prof Asonganyi to claim that there are rumours of financial dealings between Fru Ndi and the regime in power when he cannot substantiate his claim? Is it reasonable for an sdf parliamentarian aspiring to the post of Chairman to spread unfounded rumour at a press conference and resort to insult instead of presenting his vision for the party and for Cameroon? Is it ok for a founding father who has all along been part of an illegality to suddenly turn around, pretend to be an angel and summoned his own his convention knowing fully well that one had been summoned to examine the problems plaguing the party and organised elections? Fru Ndi is not alone but the entire NEC ranging from Ngwasiri, Mbah Ndam,Asonganyi,Nkemgu,Yoyo,Effimba,Ndebagang etc.These problems could have been solved within the party had the Munas and the Ngwasiris not resorted to blackmail and political terrorism.Valley of England should understand that Ndobegang never resigned from his post as interim SG because of Fru Ndi.He simple stated that he would have prefered a political solution to the problem.Also, he stated there were procedural problems regarding the trial of Asonganyi.So Mr Valley of England where do you get your informatiom from? From Mukete? Please,watch out this guy is the greatest liar in Cameroon.You are also advised to read all articles in between the lines for proper comprehension.Finally,Mr Valley of England do not always write if you have nothing to write.
Akoson do not forget to pray for this forum as well as Cameroon.Some of our contributors need special prayers too.I am referring to Mukete and Valley of England.You know the bible does not preach hatred and falsehood.Pray for Fru Ndi and the sdf as well.
Posted by: knganjo | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 08:46 AM
Any political party without problems is not a political problem and a political party that solves its problems well will be able to address successfully the issues of a nation.
Posted by: Reader1 | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 08:58 AM
Molyko
You have a legitimate concern fellow countryman. If all at sundry could yield to your outcry the better.Unfortunately many of us in this forum and very far from home. I guess you can sound this alarm with some tracts but be careful not to name names as the law prohibits that. That might go along way to disuade our female students who have turned themselves into sex workers instead of studying from the danger awaiting them.
God save Cameroon
Tayong
Posted by: Tayong(Copenhagen) | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 10:10 AM
I think Ako is right to bring HIV/AIDS issues on this forum because it seems most of the contributors here are the so called bushfallers.
From the way they write and the haste in which they jump into conclusions and pass judgements each time that they read a piece of news item from cameroon (without analysisng the content and the context of the story)one can easily determine what they are doing abroad.
It is either X from France or V from Cuba,or Y from America or XX from China etc.See the havoc that bushfallers are causing to underaged girls in Molyko.Ofcourse,that is how HIV is spread from one girl to the next.
Tita from Sudan
NB God alone knows what "we" are doing out of Cameroon.Some will say we are studying-hahaaa.For 10,20,or even 50 years without going back home? I forgot.How can we go home when Popo,or Ni John,or Njeuma,etc are in Cameroon? Hmmmmmm.I see
Posted by: Tita Mofaw | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 11:27 AM
Molyko not Ako.
Hmmmmmmmmm.I see
Posted by: Tita Mofaw | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 11:29 AM
The recent resignations in the SDF(the only party that had the semblance of an opposition party) and subsequent crossing over to the CPDM is a very clear lesson to all true cameroonians (those who want a better Cameroon) that they should follow ideologies and not people. All the election riggings in Cameroon that prevented the SDF from acceding to power has proven that all those purporting to fight for the people were "fighting for their belly". As a matter of fact their patience has worn out and so the thronging to the 'chop people dem money' party.
The question now is: is Cameroon doomed?
Posted by: Bame | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 11:55 AM
Tita Mofaw,your comment is humorous but true .
Menjoh,you should have told the girl that the Cameroon she talked about is La Republique and that you come from Southern Cameroons a different country in toto La Republique.
Ashwel Maloba,Your comments and arguments are very cogent but I am filled with curiosity about your stance on sacred things especially about God.
To all,I find alot of rigmarole in the comments presented in this forum.In my humble opinion,this forum is not for comparison,challenge,insults and so forth but a means to make sincere verbal and ideological contributions in a bid to provide a definitive solution to the plight of our country.When such things transcend in the SDF and undue regard being put there,we thwart the object of the only means to solving our problem which is not achievable by the SDF but the SCNC.We have to come into existence first before trying to make our system a utopia.We are not part of La Republique,that name existed before we had independence by joining them.So by adopting the name,La Republique therefore took the intrepidity to announce to the world that we are extinct.That is what the SCNC is trying to counteract by saying to the world through international bodies like the UN,UNPO,ICJ etc that we are alive and have to be recognised.This is the way I look at it.
Posted by: Legima Doh (LD) | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 11:55 AM
Those standing the heat may not necessarily be able to put out he flame?
It makes sense to run out and fight the flame from a distance rather than showing unecessary braver and courage under dictatorship.
Posted by: Celestine Fosung Nke | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 01:33 PM
DAY 3. FASTING AND PRAYERS CONTINUE...
TAKING A BREAK!
I AM ORGANISING A ONE WEEK FASTING AND PRAYER.
I wish to announce publicly that I'm taking a break from replying to querries and making contributions on this forum. I think that some writers need serious spiritual care and attention. I really do sincerely pity them especially in the situation where even in obvious cases, they can't still see. The above article is not something we ought to brainstorm about. It speaks for itslef. Only posessed persons like Mukete will do. I'll NOT relent my efforts from exorcising this drunkard, dullard and idiot. Modern medicines as they think, can't do the trick...ONLY GOD. Only God, I re-iterate. I therefore call on members to go on fasting and prayers. Just what I'm about doing. I regret any inconveniences my absence may cause.
So, Klemenceau, Fon Lawrence, Watesih, knganjo, Henry Alex, Aaron Nyangkwe, Boy, Atemangy Awunjia Terrence, Washow and the rest of this think factory I enjoin you to continue the struggle. I'll be back in about a week time.
Stay blessed and keep praying.
Love you all.
Fasting and Praying Son Of Ako - London School Of Economics And Political Science.
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Posted by: Akoson | Friday, 21 April 2006 at 08:58 PM
Legima Doh,
I hope this is a forum where Cameroonians can have a healthy debate about our country and people. All opinions are definitely welcome. While I have often responded to the elegant insults that people design and throw around, I am not one to engage in that stuff. I genuinely cherish a clash of ideas rather than persons. And for me, every idea is fair game. Including god and religion. Religion in general, be it hindu, islam, buddhism etc. And I hope that answers your question about 'sacred' things. For me, there are no holy cows. But I suppose this is not the right place to encourage debate about religion. However, may be if people stop thinking that god will do things for them, they can do it for themselves.
Posted by: Ashwell | Saturday, 22 April 2006 at 05:25 AM
Shame on to SDF !!! Why did you put on the heat the some of you cannot withstand from within ? I those of you who are withstanding the heat are not better off than those who landed in a furnance. Rebaptize yourself and your ideologies for the better, shame on to you !!
Posted by: Chrsitopher Ngosong | Saturday, 22 April 2006 at 08:42 AM
I pity the SDF because under the current Anglophone leadership, it is doubtful if this party can ever effect a meaningful and democratic change in Cameroon.Whether the leadership accepts this or not, France will never allow an Anglophone as a leader in Cameroon because she fears losing again,one of her priceless assets in Africa.she has made mistakes in Rwanda, Angola, Congo, Chad, Senegal and the consequences in the metropole (France)has been devastating- with unemploment amongst the highest in Europe.Her activities in Côte D'Ivoire prove the point that she is determined to stay in her ex-colonies.
France in collaboration with her Camerounese annexationist has made it a policy to ensure a continuous division within the SDF. So, it should come by no surprise to many, when people like Nkemgu & others will have to decamp to the CPDM.I urge the SDF to stop stealing the show from the SCNC because this movement has a genuine and compelling case. To restore Anglophone inelienable rights wthin Cameroon, it should join forces with the SCNC and stop being ambiguous in the Cameroon political scene.Let's not forget that this same division within the ranks of the Anglophone elites and politicians put them in the undesireable situation they now find themselves
Posted by: boyambiance | Saturday, 22 April 2006 at 12:05 PM
Those Bangwa people are just as useless as their tribe. They do not know where they belong. Are there from the east or west cameroon. Nkemngu, langa man. Biya will not give you any post, shame on you
Posted by: Bangwa | Saturday, 22 April 2006 at 02:06 PM
Please, given that this is an intellectual forum and also the fact members of this forum are greatly interested in the wellbeing of all Cameroonians and want things to change for the better for their brothers and sisters in Cameroon, I wish to urge everyone to use this forum for a construcive debate.
We should not use this forum for accussations and counter accusations. This will not take Cameroon to anywhere. A debate not influenced by emotions will go a long way to promote meaningful development in Cameroon, since it will help inspire others.
One should not fail to see that the SDF has been torn apart because of debates greatly influenced by emotions. If everything had been constructive, the SDF would not have found herself in this mess. We should equally understand that neither the respectable Ni John nor his dissidents created or founded democracy. They are all learning just like other advanced democratic nations by using the best they know and the best they have to see the best in Cameroon. I understand someone will ask me if the SDF is actually using the best it has. The best someone knows might not be the best option, but I think if someone is doing his best, then we should not use our best to do our worse just to bring him down but do our best to make him rise.
I strongly believe that Ni John would not hessitate to give up power if some do not try to look down on him and undermind his efforts in the SDF. It is the way everything has been presented. It is not how much good one desires to happen to Our Fatherland that will bring progress, it is how we put the different institutions of progress together that will bring progress.
Please, I once more seek the indulgence of everyone on this forum to help draw a way forward for Cameroon and construct the bases for a successful Cameroon while standing on the foundations of fairness and progress. It does not help if we criticise without outlining any way forward.
Lets try to answer the question, "What is the way forward for Cameroon." We should also have in mind that even the most democratic parties or countries in the world have their own problems. If we make fairness our tool, unbiased judgement our sister and progress our way, then we will be heading towards a prosperous Cameroon. A Cameroon that will be bring all people from the different walks of life to sacrifice for their brothers and sisters. Cameroon is poor in development but rich in resources. I believe there are many people out there who are willing to sacrifice for one another, but they can't do this when those in positions of influence are doing their best to take advantage of their sacrifice and make themselves wealthy.
Posted by: Rene Murena | Saturday, 22 April 2006 at 02:34 PM
Rene Murena,
Thanks so much for your contribution.If we can start thinking in that direction,then we must have realised 50% solution of the political impasse in our country.
Unfortunately here,we have people who think that just insults will provide a solution to the problems plaguing our country.It is often said that two wrongs do not make a right;do we simply go ahead to support wrong things because we think Fru Ndi has failed? when we censure,we should be able to end with suggestions for a way forward.We should not be deceived by those who benefit from the dreadful regime and intentionally try to creat confusion here;those who benefit from the CPDM will never want to see it leave power and therefore will always love to see a divided opposition.Of course on this Forum,we have children of CPDM pig guns who know fully well what they benefit from the CPDM and will do their best to fuel to SDF crises through what they write.
As far as I am concerned,it is time Cameroonians take responsibility and should be able to say with one voice that enough is enough.Cameroonians should not continue to suffer in silence and expect God to come to their aid.Looking globally we will see that demonstrations are providing a solution to situations where peoples rights are tempered with.The most recent cases can be seen in France and Nepal;the French authority introduced an unpopular labour law and the people stood under one umbrella,said no to it and Jacque Chira was forced to scrap it off and in Nepal protesters continue their demonstrations ignoring a curfew that was put in place until the King was forced to restore democracy.Cameroonians should be able to learn from cases like these.
Posted by: Fon Lawrence | Saturday, 22 April 2006 at 04:27 PM
Mr Fon Lawrence
I thought you are Aborobot as u used to be called .Today Im surprised to see you play down the meaning of Aborobot(peace)
You and the other fellows have indulged yourself in a bitter game of insults and demagogy. Mister man preach Aborobot ,dont change now because you have come to Europe.
Dont ask who am I? Im your classmate and good friend ,dont bother.
God save Cameroon
Tayong
Posted by: Tayong(Copenhagen) | Saturday, 22 April 2006 at 05:48 PM
Tayong,
I remain Aborobob;preaching aborobob(peace) is not synonymous to tolerating things that cause the suffering of a people.
Will come to you later
Aborobob
Posted by: Fon Lawrence | Sunday, 23 April 2006 at 01:10 AM