Cameroon, Iraq Ranked Bottom In Governance

By Peterkins Manyong

Cameroon has been ranked among five worst countries in the world in terms of governance. The other countries are Iraq, Chad, Somalia, Zimbabwe and Romania.

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The information is contained in a Governance Perception Index, a survey carried out by a Harvard University team, led by Robert I Rotberg, a Professor of that American renowned institution.

The survey examines governance in 100 countries. Sweden, Denmark, Botswana and South Africa occupy the first group.

Edward Ngalah, Northwest representative at the National Anti-Corruption Observatory, said Cameroon and the other countries in the group are sending their citizens to misery and death through dictatorship, poor health, poor education, corruption and injustice.

Commenting on the recent results of the Corruption Perception Index, CPI, released by Transparency International, he said Cameroon performed far worse than in previous years, although she was not the least on the list. He said Cameroon tailed the list when the survey involved only 100 countries.

This year she was number 138 out of 163, which makes its position worse.He said Cameroon finds it difficult to improve because governance is bad, the rule of law is almost absent and there is no transparency in management."Cameroon practices voodoo economics," Ngalah said.

He said a small group of people have taken the country hostage. They include party barons, friends and tribesmen to those at the helm of the state.

He recalled a declaration by Central Committee member, Charles Ateba Eyene, who said there are some strikingly rich Cameroonians capable of financing a 30-year war in Cameroon.

Propaganda Not Anti-Corruption Fight

Commenting on Cameroon's approach to the fight against corruption, Ngalah said there is more propaganda than action. "Cameroon government's approach is haphazard and sporadic. Arresting Siyam Siewe, for instance, but leaving his work in place, is far from being the best way of checking embezzlement at the Port Authority.

What government is doing is like curing the symptoms of a disease rather than the disease itself. He said mediatising the fight is a strategy to hoodwink the international community into thinking that the government is moving ahead in the anti-corruption fight, whereas it is only turning round.

The government, he said, has the habit of announcing the amount it has allocated for projects, but never states how much has been spent. When foreign aid is provided for schools, to cite one example, the money for constructing schools is quietly embezzled.
Aid, he said, does not help. To succeed, he said government should look beyond fighting corruption and embrace good governance.

Global Good Governance

Viewing the issue of good governance internationally, Ngalah commended the approach introduced by Mo Ibrahim, the Sudanese billionaire, Chairman of the Mo Ibrahim Foundation, who has instituted an award of US 5 million dollars as reward to any dictator who voluntarily quits power.

The foundation is also ready to grant to such a former dictator, 200,000 US dollars annually, for 10 years.Besides, the foundation is ready to support any initiative undertaken by "clean" heads of state to improve on governance.

This approach to good governance is the best, so far, and has been supported by Kofi Annan, outgoing UN Scribe, Nelson Mandela, Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and Mary Robinson Prime Minster of Ireland.

He was sure President Biya would win the award if he keeps his promise to step down at the end of his present seven-year term in 2011.

Comments

[Ongola-Iwondo]

Hello !!

I'm very supprised by the inability of some of you to conduct an intelligeable battle of words without being frustrated. Let me reply to some of:

@Fon
Is your family dying of hunger back home? If yes, that's your fault. Is your neighbour dying? If yes, you are the fault because you've done nothing to help. If you are so tired with the cpdm, why can't form your own party and start building a good political framework (though that isn't the only solution and I thin it isn't even a solution). The fact that some people are responding shows that there is some truth in what I say and a real intention to debate though they don't know how to start.

@Ndiks
I can just compare you to these neo-nazist kids in some parts of eastern europe who don't really know what the are fighting for. They only know one phrase:"Go home, I hate you!" But when asked why, they just keep on repeating the same thing.

@Fritzane Kiki
That's what I'm trying to say. The problem lies within Cameroonians and there is no sense trying to divide our fatherland. Cameroonians just have to work together independently of their origins (whether at home or not but doing it for the betterment of our Country).

@Langai
I'm no mutant brother, rather a person with a head and a brain at the right place. Don't just rely on stories told by others but verify. I've never had any problem with Western Union nor MoneyGram(whatsoever humble amount have intended to send). Man, talk what you know: Franck Biya owns no forest. He can own the whole Mvomeka'a if his father wants but that's not how things are done. I still remember the way people potrayed the president's village saying things like: there is an airport, a hotel like hilton, golf courts etc. But when his first wife died(r.i.p ) we all saw that Mvomeka'a wasn't the paradise people thought... So, my friend VERIFY every piece of information.

@Tabeng Tayim
I'm no traitor nor traitor to be(in any field. Je suis un homme intègre!) because I've got no political ties with whosoever. IF by so saying means you thought I'm from SW nor NW (which doees not matter for me all), I'm sorry. Though I got my education from the prestigious schools of the latter regions, I'm not even a bit connected by far or near to your way of viewing things(or to some of you).

@Ma Mary
The fact that I'm reponding from Poland does not mean that's my base. You said because of the time difference you said Goodmorning? Pardon me but I think at the end of a conversation or letter you can't say that...I can maintain myself in any part of the world thanks to my education, audacity and tact so, I don't need any financial "help" from whosoever...as simple as that. Keep on vociferating here rather than using your brain to change the system in which your fathers and uncles are founding members.

@all of you
Are your hands and brains not with you? Has Biya and his clique taken them? NOOOO!!

Best regards,
Ongola-Iwondo

[Ongola-Iwondo]

@TabiSweden
your way of viewing this problem is far better than the majority. Big up to you!

@Riccardo
I just kept this very positive phrase "CAMEROON IS ONE AND WILL REMAIN ONE AND INDIVISIBLE, wether we like it or not..."

[Mbu.B]

Ongola-Iwondo

your first write-up was clammed with selfmade mistakes, now it seems more grammatically upright.

Brother keep up with the debate, it makes the forum more fun.

I should ask; are you one of those identity chameleons?

Second;Do you write from the heart or from the pen?

[Danny Boy]

Rating Cameroon in the same league as war ravaged countries like Iraq in terms of governance is unfair. Cameroon is not in a state of civil war as is practically the case in poor Iraq. Therefore, my brothers and sisters, however much disgusted we are at the state of affairs in our country, we must hold our heads high in the face of such negative and baseless statistics. Which criteria define good governance and what sort of ideologies do we use? All governments anywhere in the world are corrupt.
May I state that I am appalled at the abuse of power in whatever form in Cameroon, but I remain a proud Cameroonian to booth! I know with time change will be inevitable and those responsible for bringing our dear fatherland to this state of ridicule will be called to account.

[Ongola-Iwondo]

@Mbu.B

I'm sure you know how it is when you do many things at the same time with ( a ) keyboad(s) and don't have time to correct yourself (In french it commonly known as "erreur de frappe!"). So, I just count on the leniency of the family in here...

It seems to be great fun presenting arguments and defending them and that's the purpose of such a forum.

I don't know what you mean why "those identity chameleons". As I wrote earlier, I've never really taken a debate to a passionate level(just some very sporadic comments) here because of certain reasons namely: my time schedule, inappropriate theme to some lectures here and the poor usage of this forum (especially the low class propaganda some of our fellow countrymen here)and so on...for sure you could name the rest BUT I can assure you that your ID (Mbu B) is very familiar to me.

Man, I do write from the heart and with the respect I always have for every interlocutor provided he(or she) does the same althrough).

I hope the intelligence of some people will prevail(I know they are not lunkheads or duffers) and see that, we are striving to attain the same goal. We all know (I hope we do!) that Malcolm X and MLK dedicated themselves to the same cause BUT only MLK is a hero today. Though all roads may lead to Rome, the road taken is still VERY important. So be wise !!

Best regards,
Ongola-Iwondo

[Ongola-Iwondo]

@Mbu.B

I'm sure you know how it is when you do many things at the same time with ( a ) keyboad(s) and don't have time to correct yourself (In french it's commonly known as "erreur de frappe!"). So, I just count on the leniency of the family in here...

It seems to be great fun presenting arguments and defending them and that's the purpose of such a forum.

I don't know what you mean by "those identity chameleons". As I wrote earlier, I've never really taken a debate to a passionate level(just some very sporadic comments) here because of certain reasons namely: my time schedule, inappropriate theme to some lectures here and the poor usage of this forum (especially the low class propaganda some of our fellow countrymen here)and so on...for sure you could name the rest BUT I can assure you that your ID (Mbu B) is very familiar to me.

Man, I do write from the heart and with the respect I always have for every interlocutor provided he(or she) does the same althrough).

I hope the intelligence of some people will prevail(I know they are not lunkheads or duffers) and see that, we are striving to attain the same goal. We all know (I hope we do!) that Malcolm X and MLK dedicated themselves to the same cause BUT only MLK is a hero today. Though all roads may lead to Rome, the road taken is still VERY important. So be wise !!

Best regards,
Ongola-Iwondo

PS: I also count on your leniency Mbu :)

[Agbor T]

My dear Ongola-Iwondo,

It's great reading some of your comments after a three months relapse as you indicated.I do very much appreciate your comment especially your first write-up. While you gave some useful

I was abit worried whether you were in your full reasoning before you made this commentary. How on earth can you ask if people back home are dying?? What do you understand by death??
- A country where there is no rule of law and where ever it exist its favours the a class of people.
- A country where everything goes in the opposite direction in terms of governence
- Listen my brother, not about SC or LRC or whatever you want to put it: How much was Titus Edzoa earning as a salary be it a minister, physician, to construct the mansion he "left" at Shell Nsimeyong?
- How on earth will you of all be so reasonable to insinuate that some EU countries are/could be more corrupt that Cameroon. Which EU are you refering?? Maybe Poland where you are leaving. Most probablt because they have just been in for two years now.
Even if they are more corrupts, does that give any reason for the country to subject its country to abject poverty as a result of myopism and egoism? Why didn't you choose to stay and study in the country you very much cherish.
What should be noted is that any one who criticizes here very much likes Cameroon like you and you are no more a cameroonian that any person here. Its just due to patriotism that people have to say the realities. I know people like you don't like the realities. If you think Cameroon is ready to promote small size and medium size enterprises; how much is the tax for a barbing saloon for a year?? I was in Cameroon a few weeks ago and I think the only difference between Cameroon and hell is that I am not yet dead otherwise we can equate Cameroon to hell in terms of suffering of the skilled, youths and educated.
Everything is Cameroon is "kapout". How is the tax of a saloon evaluated.
You think you're the only who visits the country. How do you see the sate of the Douala roads. The only city in Cameroon with an international seaport. Such a good country Mr.Ongola-Iwondo. Lets be objective at times and spell out what is...... Not about SC?LRC here my man but about the realities of corruption.Well, you have your view but try to be objective.

Have a great day and nothing personal

[tayong]

TO ALL RANTING IN HERE SEEKING FOR NOTICE!

Good governance indices have measuring yardsticks. International institutions have no axe to grind with Cameroon and should not biasedly rank us this way if this wasn't the case.

1. Good governance means performing effectively in clearly defined functions and roles Is there any difference between the executive and the judiciary in Cameroon?

2.Good governance means being clear about the functions of the governing body .
Has the Cameroon govt any plan for the nation?

3.Good governance means being clear about the responsibilities of non-executives and the executive, and making sure that those responsibilities are carried out .Who runs public corporations in Cameroon? Aren't they run by the executives.

4. Good governance means promoting values for the nation and demonstrating the values of good governance through behaviour and putting national values into practice .Where's Cameroon vis a vis national values?

5. Good governance means taking informed, transparent decisions and managing risk, being rigorous and transparent about how decisions are taken,having and using good quality information, advice and support ,

making sure that elected governors have the skills,knowledge and experience they need to perform well.Cameroon govt replaces elected governors with appointed ones( Govt delegate replacing elected mayors etc )

6 .Good governance means developing the capability of people with governance responsibilities and evaluating their performance, as individuals and as a group.It might not be uncommon for the minister of women affair of Cameroon to be a man , or minister of town planning and housing to be an educationist, as long as they're "central committee" members

7. Good governance means taking an active and planned approach to dialogue with any dissenting views and camps thereby rendering justice to all.In Cameroon ,The Southern Cameroonians who make up about 3million of the 16milion Cameroonians are at the brink of separation yet a govt that supposedly caters fot this group ignores their grievances.

7.Good governance means limiting the size and fiscal weight of the civil service. In Cameroon this is the worst cankerworm eating deep into the fabrics of the nation. Instead of encouraging a vibrant, strong private sector the govt year in year out indirectly recruits thousands into a corrupt public service. ENAM, EMIA, etc etc while poltytec , IUT etc dont have funds to run.

8.Good governance means restructuring and decentralising the civil service . Cameroon civil service is one of the most centralised, corrupt and "business" spots in the whole of Africa. File chasing, dossiers, "makara pati" etc.

And the list continues.....................
Why then do some folks think all is well if they havent got skeletons in their cupboards? Ghana didnt become what it is today through praise singing to Jerry Rawlings and co. The people stood up and said "enough was enough".

Gentlemen, history and posterity will judge us all. You might sell your conscience today but when tables shall turn over the cat will be let out of the bag.Kudos!

Tayong

[Pikin]

My dad is Francophone, my mother an Anglophone, I was raised in Yaounde, but went to secondary and high school in Bamenda, I am comfortable expressing myself in either English or French, so by a lot of people’s definitions on this forum, who or what am I, On what side of this Mongo does my loyalty lie? For those still deliberating on the questions, I’ll answer. I’m a Cameroonian. Period. And what most ‘grown’ up Cameroonians fail to realise is that there is an overflowing spring of young Cameroonians like me. Hence we categorically deny to be subjected or drawn on the topic of ‘choosing’ between our fathers or mother or our towns of birth and our villages!

At 22 I am far from being a politician but basic truths and ideologies can not be hidden from us. The legacy you the ‘elders’ are going to hand down to us is one we would gladly turn a backs to, but faced with the impossibility of that alternative we would be the ones to lick and tend the wounds of this dying nation, and work hand in hand, elbow to elbow in a last ditch attempt to resuscitate her. And as long as there is a God in heaven, and as true as our forefathers and ancestors fought for what they believed in, Kamer will survive. And believe me when I say this has nothing to do with being Anglophone of Francophone!

I’ll let you in on another secret, since our hands are tied at the moment and the certificates and degrees achieved only serve as decorations in our parents’ living rooms or memorabilia to look on and reflect on hour spent burning the midnight oil, we will, in the words of 50 Cent, ‘patiently wait’… till the old generation simply die out or wither in senility. Nothing last for ever!

Then we will build our nation.

Remember , we are waiting… patiently.

[Ndiks]

Gailkit Iwondo,replace I with E and you get Ewondo.You are surely a member of the Essingan-Beti TRIBAL Zaibatsu and sticky-fingers who are plundering the resources of Ambazonia side by side with her Annexation.Your sudden preaching of the colonial buzzword "One And Indivisible" just reveals where you are coming from.Cameroun( LRC) of course.So there is no reason responding to the balderdash you write here. We make our case using History,Law and Facts and not Visceral tones.From there,you get CONSEQUENT AMBAZONIA.

Pikin,
it will be good if you do well to know your history.Not the garbage churned out by MINEDUC.Where your Parents may be coming from should not hogtie the want for justice by an oppressed people.

[vito]

Good comment Pikin.Let me help you;you're a tadpole.I believe that should be a "pikin frog".The logic is simple dear child;your father's a frog.Compris?Who are you trying to kid here?

[Tabeng Tayim]

Mr. Ongola-Iwondo,

I am happy to be having this debate with minds like yours. Just as Agbor T said, nothing personal, JUST THE FACTS. Let me start by correcting some historical facts that you totally mis-construe. Above, you state as such, "We all know (I hope we do!) that Malcolm X and MLK dedicated themselves to the same cause BUT only MLK is a hero today.". Iwondo, just because the American congress (Under the Presidency of Renold Reagan -- August 1983) decided to award MLK a holiday and not Malcolm X, doesn't in the slightest mean that Malcolm X was less important in the struggle for justice, truth, and emancipation in the U.S, than MLK. To interpret that into meaning Malcolm X is not a HERO today is an unintelligent falacy of logical thought, and a travesty of reality. Infact, it was Malcoln X's militant stance that nudged white America to gravitate towards MLKs "love your neighbour as yourself philosophy". That is a historical fact that will be gotten by sampling any group of Americans that participated in the changing fifties and sixties.

Iwondo, let me stick with your example of the United States and its struggles and compare that to Cameroon. In the situation in the United States and its struggles for justice, truth was central in the outcome. Both the scenarios of the American Civil War (1861 to 1865), and the civil rights movements of the fifties and sixties were fought on the basis that the formal and codified supression of blacks to slavery and second class status were justified on the falsities that blacks were created inferior. That was a lie and a fabrication from beginning to end. The outcome of the battles was that the TRUTH PREVAILED!!

Now take the case of Cameroun. The U.S. Ambassador to Cameroun recently stated that investors were fleeing from Cameroon because of corruption. So what lie is it that is choking Cameroun?. Namibia, Kenya, Senegal, Botswana, Ghana, Nigeria, Tanzania, South Africa, Mali, etc are all becoming functioning democracies, but Cameroun continues to ferment. Ever asked why? All the indices of governance dictate that Cameroun in sliping down the slope of regression. So what lie is it that is choking Cameroun? Cameroonians; both Anglophones and Francophones are exporting themselves in huge numbers, disproportionately to other African democratic countries with similar levels of resources. So what lie is it that is choking Cameroun? Morality in Cameroun has descended to the level that the President of the Chamber of Commerce, and the U.N. Ambassador are being investigated for raping a boy and throwing him to his death through the 8th floor Window of the Yaounde' Hilton Hotel. So what lie is it that is choking Cameroun?

My friends, it is the lie of the Fraudulent Referandum of 1972 that created the illegitimate United Republic of Cameroon. It is the treachery that has marginalized the Southern Cameroonians. It is the lie and the betrayal of the Anglophones by Cameroun failing to work out the Plebiscite Mandate as was spelled out prior to the 1961 vote. Just like Apartheid was choking South Africa and its annexation of Namibia was choking its progress, the annexation of the Southern Cameroons is the cancer that is eating Cameroun. The Bible (in Exodus) teaches us about what happened to Egypt when she enslaved a people who came there of their own free will. The ferment which we are witnessing in La Republique du Cameroun is a direct result of these lies, treacheries, and blatant annexation. Now, these treacherous underarchievers talk of a North-South Axis of power as if they own the country. Yesterday, I was in Bamenda, heading to Bafut, and you can see how these fools have turned the Bamenda Airport into a Military base. We haven't started fighting and these cowards are deploying forces all over. They can deploy their occupationist army all over, but they cannot buy, maim, cajole, intimidate, or defeat our consiousness. When we will convert our consciousness into a military force, they will understand the decapitating fist of a people's fight for FREEDOM.

[tayong]

Pekin or one of "those".

Young man I decide to reply you because though early to judge, your intentions might be genuine. First and foremost, the Southern Cameroon issue isn't about francophones-anglophones. Southern Cameroon and La Republique had formed a single nation ,certainly, and is still a single nation, whether in the abstract or not.

Secondly Southern Cameroonians have always worked to live together with their brothers from La Republique until the powers that be decided to go for a divorce. Mr Pekin I dont know how old you are but remember the AAC of Buea didnt advocate for a separation but called on the regime not to wipe out the identity of one part of bicultural nation which fell on death ears.

Muna and Foncha still brought the regimes attention to the dangers of their policy of assimilation,and the duo cautioned the regime of sparking off a fire that might be unquenchable, still all fell on blind eyes and deaf ears.

So my "Pekin" you and I if honest will see that the real problem is not those asking for seccession but rather those who dont love this nation. They love to see us pitted against one another to their gains.

So my "Pekin" join us to pressure this regime to resolve this crisis.
Tayong

[Ndiks]

Implement UN Res. 1608 or Pull out of Ambazonia (UN Trust Territory of the Southern Cameroons) with alacrity before it is to late to do so peacefully. See details of Resolution and appraisal Below.

The International Community should find Cameroun Republic in violation of the Law of Nations by charges of breach of international treaty (Treaty of Union with Ambazonia) and accordingly delt with squarely thus:
1. Dismiss Cameroun from the UN and all affiliated organizations if they should fail to comply;
2. Impose Economic Sanctions including the blocking of all material and immaterial international aid to Cameroun if they do not comply;
3. Utilize a UN Intervention Force(s) to force Cameroun to withdraw from Ambazonia Republic as was the case when the UN bombed Iraq out of Kuwait.

The citizens of Ambazonia (UN Trust Territory of the Southern Cameroons) continue to suffer unjustly because of Cameroun's illegal occupation which has led to the surpression of intellectual thought, the Anglo-Saxon Common Laws and Educational System, deprived of any vital economic development and including the systematic destruction of the agro-base industries that existed in the territory prior to the lies of Unification. In fact, agricultural base is being sold out to French people, including Christoff (?) Mitterand, the Son of Former French President Francios Mitterand! The failure to respond to these demands would be considered as a green light that Ambazoians can act accordingly and use any means possible to flush Cameroun illegal land lords out of the Ambazonia and no one, no country should blame Ambazonia for destabilizing the region in terms of the wider geo-political nature and location of the disputed territory.
See full text below.
UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION 1608 (xv)
APRIL 21, 1961.
The Case of
“AMBAZONIA VERSUS CAMEROUN”

Resolution 1608 (xv) as submitted by the Fourth Committee, A/4737, and as amended orally by Guinea and Liberia, adopted by the General Assembly on 21 April 1961, meeting 994, by roll-call vote of 64 to 23, with 10 abstentions, as follows:

IN FAVOR:
Afghanistan, Austria, Bolivia, Bulgaria, Burma, Byelorussian SSR, Canada, Ceylon, Chile, Costa Rica, Cuba, Cyprus, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Federation of Malaya, Finland, Ghana, Guinea, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Japan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Mali, Mexico, Morocco, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, Phillippines, Poland, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Sweden, Thailand, Tunisia, Turkey, Ukrainian SSR, Union of South Africa, USSR, United Arab Republic, United Kingdom, United States, Venezuela, Yemen, Yugoslavia.

AGAINST:
Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Cambodia, Cameroun, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Congo (Brazzaville), Congo (Leopoldville), Dahomey, France, Gabon, Greece, Israel, Ivory Coast, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Niger, Paraguay, Senegal, Upper Volta, Uruguay.

ABSTENTIONS:
Columbia, El Salvador, Guatamala, Haiti, Italy, Panama, Peru, Portugal, Spain, Togo.

“THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY,
“Recalling its resolution 1350 (XIII) of 13 March 1959 concerning the future of the Trust Territory of the Cameroons under United Kingdom administration in which the General Assembly recommended, inter alia, that the Administering Authority take steps, in consultation with the United Nations Plebiscite Commissioner for the Cameroons under United Kingdom Administration, to organize, under the supervision of the United Nations, separate plebiscites in the Northern and Southern parts of the Cameroons under United Kingdom administration, in order to ascertain the wishes of the inhabitants of the territory concerning their future, and that the plebiscite in the Northern Cameroons be held about the middle of November 1959 on the basis of the two questions set out in paragraph 2 of the said Resolution,

“Recalling its resolution 1352 (XIV) of 16 October 1959 whereby it decided, inter alia, that a plebiscite in the Southern Cameroons would be held between 30 September 1960 and March 1961, on the basis of the two questions set in paragraph 2 of the said resolution,

“Recalling further its resolution 1473 (XIV) of 12 December 1959 in which the General Assembly, having considered the results of the plebiscite in the Northern part of the Cameroons under United Kingdom Administration, recommended the organization by the Administering Authority, in consultation with the United Nations Plebiscite Commissioner, of a further plebiscite to be held in the Northern Cameroons under United Nations supervision between 30 September 1960 and March 1961, on the basis of the two questions defined in paragraph 3 of the said resolution,

“Having examined the report of the United Nations Plebiscite Commissioner concerning the two plebiscites held in the Northern and the Southern Cameroons in February 1961 and the report of the Trusteeship Council thereon,

Having heard the petitioners,

“1. Expresses its high appreciation of the work of the United Nations Plebiscite Commissioner for the Cameroons under United Kingdom Administration and his staff;

“2. Endorses the results of the plebiscite that:
“(a) The people of Northern Cameroons have by a majority, decided to achieve independence by joining the independent Federation of Nigeria;

“(b) The people of the Southern Cameroons have similarly decided to achieve independence by joining the independent Republic of Cameroun;

“3. Considers that, the people of the two parts of the Trust Territory having freely and secretly expressed their wishes with regards to their respective futures in accordance with General Assembly resolution 1352 (XIV) and 1473 (XIV), the decisions made by them through democratic processes should be immediately implemented;

“4. Decides that, the plebiscites having been taken separately with differing results, the Trusteeship Agreement of 13 December 1946 concerning the Cameroons under United Kingdom Administration shall be terminated, in accordance with Article 76b of the Charter of the United Nations and in agreement with the Administering Authority, in the following manner:

“(a) With Respect to the Northern Cameroons, on I June 1961, upon its joining the Federation of Nigeria as a separate province of the Northern Region of Nigeria;

“(b) With respect to the Southern Cameroons, on 1 October 1961, upon it’s joining the Republic of Cameroun;

“5. Invites the Administering Authority, the Government of the Southern Cameroons and the Republic of Cameroun to initiate urgent discussions with a view to finalizing, before October 1, the arrangements by which the agreed and declared policies of the parties concerned will be implemented.”

ORAL HEARINGS:
General Assembly 15th Session (First and Second Parts).
Fourth Committee, Meetings 1004, 1010, 1012, 1066, 1086, 1096, 1097, 1098, 1105, 1108, 1120, 1127-1130, 1139, 1140, 1142, 1147.
A/C.4/445 and Add.1-3, A/C.4/469 and Add.1-8.
Requests for Hearings.
A/C.4/448. Note by Secretary General.
A/C.4/490. Additional statement by Namaso Mbile, Cameroons People’s National Convention, Kumba Division, on Southern Cameroons.
A/C.4/495. Statement by S.T. Muna, Minister of Commerce and Industries, Southern Cameroons.
A/C.4/96. Additional Statement by Mayi Matip, Chairmen of Union des Populations du Cameroun Parliamentary group.

APPRAISAL OF UN RESOLUTION 1608:

WHY IS UN RESOLUTION 1608 CENTRAL TO THE SOVEREIGNTY DISPUTE BETWEEN CAMEROUN AND AMBAZONIA (SOUTHERN CAMEROONS)?
The nations that voted in favor of the resolution might have had “unity as strength” as their guiding principle. But when we take a look at the said resolution, we have every reason to feel and believe that British Southern Cameroonians have been maltreated by both Cameroun and the United nations. From the said Resolution, we can make the following deductions:

1) A nation cannot become “independent by joining” another, especially if it is denied a seat at the World Organization. The case of the Republics that were part of USSR but had separate seats at the UN (and voted herein) are a glaring pointer to this effect! This condition secures the right of the parties to regain their sovereignty without necessarily having to pull much string, in case of material breach of treaty.

2) From (1) above, it is clear that the Trusteeship Agreement was already under violation, since “by joining” does not lead “to either self-government or independence” (76b) of the UN Charter/(Declaration Granting Independence …of Dec. 14, 1960)! Besides if Trusteeship was terminated on October 1, 1960, why then was Ambazonia not goiven a seat at the UN? Why did the UN see it fit to utilize the plebiscite tool to decolonize the territory? Was this act an application or a violation of the law? And what more of the absense of the UN and Trusteeship Council and Adminstering Authority of the said territory from ensuring that Paragraph 5 of the said Res. 1608 was actually effected? How else can one not cry foul play?

3) That Cameroun was among nations that opposed the Resolution and given that Cameroun has violated the Federation Treaty, besides the above Resolution demanding its implementation--both constitute gross evidence that Cameroun authority were not interested to have either a federation or unity with British Southern Cameroons. Thus Cameroun should not resist Ambazonian moves to form a separate Republic, which would fulfill Article 76b of the UN Charter and secure/protect the rights of its citizens.

4) France by virtue of her fears that Anglo-Saxon culture would pollute and prevent them from exercising continuous neocolonialism on its former colonies equally opposed the said resolution. Moreso, twelve other French-speaking and former French Colonies in Africa (see "Votes Against" in said resolution above) voted against any such union between Anglo-Saxon Ambazonia and Cameroun Republic. Thus there should be no resistence from their part whatsoever on letting Ambazonia go her way, even though Cameroun President Paul Biya already made Cameroun secession from the Union a legal clarity/reality with his Presidential Decree 84/001 of January 1984.

5) The Administering Authorities, in this case the United Kingdom did not do its job of ensuring that negotiations were conclusive before the stipulated date. Instead, what transpired was that Britain abandoned the Southern Cameroons at the mercy of French and Cameroun colonizers when it effectively pulled out of the territory one month to the date stipulated for the take-off (LEAVING BEHIND ONLY A FEW OF HER MARGESTY'S SOLDIERS WHO EFFECTIVELY HANDED OVER POWER TO CAMEROUN PRESIDENT AND NOT TO AMBAZONIANS ON SEPTEMBER 30 AT MIDNIGHT) for what they wanted us to accept as our independence day and the commencement of the KAMERUN CONFEDERATION (NOT FEDERATION)!

6) The UN equally failed to perform its role as supervisor of the process to decolonize the Southern Cameroons without necessarily compromising its sovereignty.

7) Evidence of the betrayal of Ambazonia (The British Southern Cameroons) by both Britain and the UN Nations is found in the fact that at the Foumban Constitutional talks, both parties were absent. Thus there was never any conclusive deal, which protected the Southern Cameroons from French and Cameroun intrigues. International law regards this absence as a major breach of international treaty and breach of trust and so all the deals from there hence must be seen as having no bearing on the citrizens of the Ambazonia whatsoever!

8) That on October 13, Cameroun President Ahidjo imposed Cameroun's constuitution and national emblems on the peoples of the "Southern Cameroons" in violation of all pre- and post plebiscite agreements, which by UN Res. 1608 attained Treaty status, and so must be found in contempt of the Rule and laws of the Law of Nations.

Three things can be deduced from the above seven points:

1) Ambazonia (Southern Cameroons), even if we assume attained independence, stands clearly as an example of a none-state nation given that it was never given a seat at the UN.

2) By virtue of the fact that the Confederation (not even federation) deal was never conclusive, everything that has been done in Cameroun in the name and name changing syndrome of unity is null and void ab initio, and must be considered not binding on Ambazonia (Southern Cameroons) which has clearly and effectively proven that there were unpardonable discrepancies in the unity process-which has led Cameroun to treat the Southern Cameroon masses as second class citizens and above all, refused to be lawful and accountable to/on the acts of government-this making Ambazonia (a UN Trust Territory which suffers from the effects of international conspiracy and breach of international treaty) to pass as a Cameroun Republic colony in 2002! Based on the above analyses, Ambazonia’s right to freely exercise its sovereignty can hardly be questioned, let alone denied.

3) The non-implementation of UN Resolution 1608 is glaring proof of a material breach of treaty and requires that the World Body actively take part in terminating the now too falsified relationship between Ambazonia and Cameroun before the situation turns into a bloody war of liberation.

The Ambazonia Patriotic Front (APF) acting as custodians of the message of the Ambazonia Republic’s “Ambazonia Peoples Emancipation Council (APEC) program” demands/suggests that the UN should redress this problem before it escalates into a full-scale war of liberation by granting Adult Membership to Ambazonia Republic in the United Nations, with alacrity for a good start. The time to do so is now for time is running out!

By JMM.

[vito]

Iwondo,i'm having a great time i must admit.You are a true Camerounian and Cameroun should be proud of you.Nobody ,i mean no bloody body has the right to insult your country friend,and if they do you have every right to retaliate.In an objective manner also you have a duty to leave sentiments out of your analysis of any situation pertaining to your country.CAMEROUN has a very poor governance record.Period.its niether your faulty nor that of any Camerounian in the diaspora and at the same time it is.What the hell are you guys doing out there;staying on even when your host tells you he hates you and asks tou to go home?What i dont understand also is why you're debating over your governance ranking with foreigners;i cant remember the article mentioning anything about the Democratic Republic of Southern Cameroons/Ambazonia.Or maybe i missed it.
Well cameroun should be a great country for its neighbours to be so concerned about its affairs.If you dont want to be talked-about,say nothing ,do nothing and be nothing...cant remember who exactly said that.
To you all poking your noses in your neighbour's business,i say chill or you'll come out scarred,this ewondo guy's not kidding.Thanks.

[Pikin]

Faced with the prospect of death and fading into the corridors of anonimity having achieved nothing, the illeterate mind resorts to its sharpest weapon, a slanderous tongue. Insults and stone throwing would not fill up the holes found in the pockets of the average Cameroonian, whichever side of the river your sperm and egg donors originate from.

I am by no means a Biya simpathiser and neither do I comminion with Fru nor share the SCNC ideologies. I am a young Cameroonian with a head full of ambitions and a bag full of hope just wishing that Cameroon can live up to its potential. Having lived in the UK for the past 4 years, I am amazed to see the narrow corridors along which we Cameroonians still train our thoughts. A blackman in Bush is a brother be him from Ghana, South Africa or Jamaica! And we share that solidarity. If such harmony is shared by these folks why cant we all, born under the same national canopy see each other as brothers and fight for one another.

I reiterate, the problem is not a francophone v anglophone one, its a fight between the poor cameroonians and the rich ones. (Face it, our rich anglophones dont give a rats anus about the poor ones).

And as vito called me a 'pikin frog' i shall happily 'leap' off at this point.

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[Ndiks]

An Advice to Pikin et al.Don't stay in the cocoon and say your'e far from being a politician.I think man by nature is a political animal.There is politics in the food that you eat,the water you drink,shelter, medicine,economy rights,etc.Your daily live and survival is politics inside.You will then have CONSEQUENT AMBAZONIA.

[vito]

Good "leaping" kid!Dont misuse that commonwealth Scholarship.Go back to your books.Apolitical my foot.

[tayong]

Pekin
As you decide to grab the seemingly lucrative side of your parental hegemony as intimated above(holding "vito" responsible) be reminded this issue isn't about francophone-anglophone. You'll miss it all if you consider this political dichotomy from that persperstive.Its rather a one man divorce case my "Pekin".

It will be advisable to read the facts well before delving into any debate concerning this issue. Others come to the forum with tribal undertones. Ewondo, Iwondo, Etone etc . These are the real destroyers of this nation. Why on earth would someone prefer to take on tribal indentity if not for tribalistic pride?

Let's keep on "ewondoing" while the nation slips off our hands.
Tayong

[Riccardo]

Pikin, Iwondo and all Patriots,

People wonder what makes CAADIM (CAmeroonians Against the DIvision of our Motherland) a very successful Organization today?
Commentaries from young generation of Cameroonians will tell you all!
Young Cameroonians are the back bone of Cameroon today.
Patriots, this past generation of frustrated, angry and pessimists should never intimidate you. They are lost, angry, noisemakers who have difficulty to connect to the real people in our motherland.
With all due respect, they will come with all obselete ideas and they sincerely believe they still live in 1960s. Most of them sit in the comfort of their living room with a computer have no one to talk to but find instant pleasure screaming and shouting their song of division.
They will copy and paste articles from the colonial period. They will justify their laziness and lack of initiative to invest and create business by lecturing how the "Government is so bad in Cameroon".
These people sincerely believe that jobs and wealth are created by the Government not by private intiatives. They grew up believing that "Papa Government" is the Head of the Household of their families. They believed that government should provide free electricity, water, healthcare, education, foods etc...
They claim to possess High Diplomas and degrees but lack common sense...
That is the reality of Cameroonians from the 1960s.
Young Cameroonians, the future of our Country is bright...
Like every country in the world, we have our own problems...
Our Country will only prosper when we all stand and work together for our common future.
Our children in every corner of the streets in Bamenda, Nkongsamba, Douala, Garoua, Bertoua, Bafoussam, Edea, Kumba, Limbe etc... will hold hands together and sing the song of freedom "free at last! free at last!"
CAMEROON IS ONE AND INDIVISIBLE UNDER GOD!

May God bless a strong and united Republic of Cameroon!

Riccardo
CAADIM

[tayong]

I knew people living on sullied wealth,tax payers money and ill conceived wealth will spring up whenever a replica of theirs crops up.

How come a man who works to destroy through mishievious and malicious practices claim to be a patriot . Patriotism of Yang Philemon?

Ricardo,didn't you openly tell this forum that you secretly attend Southern Cameroon meetings (intelligence service) when confronted by Pa Ngembus? Whose CIA are you employed by? Cameroon ?Is this the Cameroon of Yang Philemon or that of forefathers you want to build?

Psycopaths making noise all over and should it come to concrete projects to boast of ,they might have nothing to show for their noise making but shady deals with corrupt henchmen back home.

Only one phrase. "The tides and waves are soon closing on you all" and Cameroonians will hold you all responsible.
Tayong

[rexon]

Ricardo,

Once more, this unquestionable psychopath and evil genius in the name of ricardo will pop up with his rhetoric and lies to derail public opinion from listening to the truth. You can't force God-fearing people to support this kleptocratic Biya regime and blood thirsty government.

In your usual flip-flopping with NOTHING TO SAY apart from preaching your lies after being indoctrinated by the Yang gang and other CPDM bandits, you wrote:

"These people sincerely believe that jobs and wealth are created by the Government not by private intiatives"

To butress your arguments, you wrote:

"Young Cameroonians, the future of our Country is bright...
Like every country in the world, we have our own problems...
Our Country will only prosper when we all stand and work together for our common future"

Who is a government and what functions do you think a govenment is supposed to execute?

How can you differentiate a problem of a country and that of a government and its people or private initiatives?

What private initiatives do you want people to initiate that will be free from government policies?

Dont you know that private initiatives that are dependent on ones ability to create ideas and implement them are dependent on government policies?

You and who should stand and work together for a common future?

What future are you talking about? a future dictated by La Republique's corrupt junta?

Ricardo, i can go on and on with my questions and you and even evil gang members of Mr Biya's corrupt junta cannot answer any of them. Yes, Ricardo can get involved into a private initiative like the importation of rice to La Republique du Cameroun or even its colony the Southern Cameroons. Because of the Mundane Laws that protects people like Ricardo from Bamilikie extraction or something of the kind, he will freely import his rice duty free or collaborate with his brothers in the port in douala to pay little or no taxes. When a Southern Cameroonian like myself that the evil government Ricardo wants us to pay unquestionable allegiance to, imports thesame rice, he will be presented with fake bills and import duties that will force him to go bankrupt from the business. the effect with be that Ricardo will claim substantial net returns from his business while his southern Cameroonian slave will run out of business and run abroad with huge debts. Then Ricardo will claim he can manage a business better than an average Southern Cameroonian. Ricardo, only a fool will lie to himself. No True Southern Cameroonian is wanted in that Country.

Ricardo, i arrived at Sweden less than a decade ago. I am proud of what i have achieved within these few years abroad. Had i stayed in La Republique, i would have perished not because i did not have any initiative but because i did not know anyone in Yaounde and did not want to accept the injustice of bribing someone to gain favours.

Permit me say this to you and all. I am not one of those who ever plan to go back to La Republique. Even my own mother and relatives knows that. What i am concerned about is my family living back there. As far as i live, i will fight to destroy these evil junta with all i can. If you want to discuss business and related returns, lets talk. I can tell you about all the tricks involved in making money legally. I have applied it here and have taught others how to apply it in their businesses and it has been working. So if Frank Biya can be better of than me, then there is something wrong.

Piken,

My mother is from the South West-Manyu and my Father is from the North West-Mbatu Mezam. I was born in Buea and pay unquestionable allegiance to the South West. That is my choice and it is mine. Wherever your heart go, you should to there, but you should not stand our way as we have a need to fight for our freedom. Fighting for our freedom does not mean we have anything against a citizen of La Republique who does not stand our way. If our brothers east of the Moungo had a true intention in this mundane union, they should have been the first to stand on the streets to fight to defend our rights for freedom.

[vito]

No Riccardo,you have nothing in common with pikin.The pikins of Cameroun epitomise the very plague that's shredding off the frail fabrics binding this nation;for short term selfish gains.These are the hypocrites who've never wanted progressive dialogue that would move this nation forward.Never mind their seemingly innocent stance.Where did pikin sudenly pop-up from and why just now.Well maybe you didnt realise it but there was something different about the debate generated by Iwondo.Iwondo challenged his compatriots to justify their misgivings towards the fatherland and i bet you in due course Iwondo and many others would have developed a different view of this whole mess;but then a pikin had to come in to kill the debate.Riccardo all these folk need is a genuine national forum for honest and genuine debate and the pikins of cameroon will never let that happen.we came close with the "Grand debat".That didnt materialise because the pikins of cameroon told the president that it was political suicide so he backed off and served us a "faxed large debat".
You know what,pikin has a previledge you cant even dream of;she's witnessed true "grand debats" conducted in a most conducive environments full of humility,genuine interest,understaanding, patience and love like you can never believe exists;several times between her parents.And Riccardo every single time mum "won".Then cunning pikin realised if this occurs at national level,definitely shell lose certain "priviledges".And that's how the demonic idea of maintaining this satanic unjust status-quo was born.
Do not be fooled by their semeenly innocent stance;we smell them from a distance.Even the devil quotes the bible.Pikin will never allow you and ma mary sit down and genuinely discuss about this marginalisation problem in Cameroun.Every time it comes up they come around and give you the impression it doesnt even exist;and then the opportunity is lost;but then until that day when you,Sango,Iwondo et al will sit with Ma Mary,Ndiks,Rexon et al;and under similar conditions as in the "pikinses",Cameroun will only know worse.There's much work going on to make that happen but then the pikins of Cameroun will have to be silenced first and purged out.We smell them friend,we really do.Beware!

[rexon]

Cameroon’s President Paul Biya has been ranked one of the four worst dictators in sub-Saharan Africa and one of the world’s worst 20. Mr. Biya is ranked with only two others in sub-Saharan Africa: Robert Mugabe and King Mswati of Swaziland.

Cameroon’s President Paul Biya has been ranked one of the four worst dictators in sub-Saharan Africa and one of the world’s worst 20. Mr. Biya is ranked with only two others in sub-Saharan Africa: Robert Mugabe and King Mswati of Swaziland. The ranking appears in David Wallechnisky new book: Tyrants, the world's 20 worst living dictators, Regan Press, 2006, pp. 286-290. Mr. Wallechinsky a historian, has worked as a commentator for the America television network, the NBC and is author of several reference books. Wallechnisky describes Cameroon's electoral process in these terms:

“Every few years, Biya stages an election to justify his continuing reign, but these elections have no credibility. In fact, Biya is credited with a creative innovation in the world of phony elections. In 2004, annoyed by the criticisms of international vote-monitoring groups, he paid for his own set of international observers, six ex-U.S. congressmen, who certified his election as free and fair.”
Since 2003, Wallechnisky has been writing an annual article for Parade magazine, ranking the 10 worst dictators currently in power. Now he has expanded the list and written a book on the subject, referred to above.
This classification comes in the wake of another publication ranking Cameroon among the five worst countries in the world in terms of governance, the other countries being Iraq, Chad, Somalia, Zimbabwe and Romania. The information is contained in a Governance Perception Index, a survey carried out at Harvard University led by Professor Robert Rotberg, of Kennedy School of Government and President, World Peace Foundation. Harvard is of the world’s best Universities. Transparency International has ranked Cameroon one of the most corrupt countries in the world. The latest ranking puts Cameroon at number 138 out of 163 countries. Other credible reports by United Nations agencies, US State Department, Amnesty International and others carry similar evidence of the abysmal state of governance and human rights in Cameroon. Instead of dismissing all these evidence as fallacy or burying our heads in the sand in the hope that things will change, all those with a stake in the country need to wake up to reality and do something about it.
As Cameroon prepares for local elections next year, it is worth pointing out that until the government allows for free and fair elections, the country will never get out of poverty. Free and fair elections can only come about through an independent electoral management process in accordance with the Durban Declaration etc. The government has to realise that Cameroon’s present image of a badly governed state means it will always be difficult to attract appropriate and substantial external investment to create jobs and eradicate poverty. As patriotic as anyone will like to be, it is almost impossible to mask the true state of affiars - the amount of credible information in the public domain pointing to our country’s lack of good governance is enormous and there is a need for those in power to wake up to this by setting up a truly independent electoral commission and the rest will follow.

[Ma Mary]

There is no country called anglophonia; no people called anglophones who joined with a country called francophonia with people called francophones.

A country called Southern Cameroons elected to join another country called Republique du Cameroun in 1961 to form a federated state. That is the truth. That is the history. Piken, your mother is Southern Cameroonian and your father is from LRC. Wishy-washy sentimentalism and a half century of Camerounese propaganda cannot change the facts of history.

Failure to recognize this history voids any possibility of discussion. A lutta continua.

[vito]

And THAT, is the crux of the matter!Its so awfully painful seeing a nation drifting towards war and damnation simply because the citizens wont agree to re-endorse the founding basis of same and that because of a few deceitful individuals who think they can distort and erase history.
Victoria Acerta!

[tayong]

.....and when the foundation of a nation is shaken, nationhood is at stake, extinction is feared and dreaded and chaos reigns.
May God save our Nation.

[Akoson]

KNOW THE PEOPLE FROM WHOM YOU READ!

Ongola-Iwondo, who's this man?

This guy came from a very poor family in the South(exact location withheld). His poor family borrowed money from here and there to send him out of the country for greener pastures. It came only after several futile attempts to travel to the states, Britain, and France to no avail.

He's been chaffing in Poland now. His plan's to CROSS to another country as bushfallers put it.

I wonder why he still continues to praise that devilish regime back home that forced him run away from his country. Well, he may be looking for the post of a "secretary assistant" at a ministry. Who knows??? More on this!

My friend you better hussle hard and pay back the debts your parents owe before the money lender finally claims your plot. Nonsense....and know what????

...if you cough, I'll expose your dirty anus! Try and see.

Waiting.

The SON.

[Riccardo]

Mr Tayong,

You wrote: "Ricardo,didn't you openly tell this forum that you secretly attend Southern Cameroon meetings (intelligence service) when confronted by Pa Ngembus? Whose CIA are you employed by? Cameroon ?Is this the Cameroon of Yang Philemon or that of forefathers you want to build?"

Answer: No, Mr Tayong. I openly attend every meeting. If you have attended some meetings, you should know me very well.
I am a Patriot, and my grand parents have shed their blood to defend and free Kamerun. They were murdered by the French and their colonial puppets. I am sure you must have read about it somewhere.
I am defending the integrity of Kamerun. I see myself as an African not a British or French.

Rexon, you wrote:
"Once more, this unquestionable psychopath and evil genius in the name of ricardo will pop up with his rhetoric and lies to derail public opinion from listening to the truth. You can't force God-fearing people to support this kleptocratic Biya regime and blood thirsty government."
Rexon, what makes you think that anyone who disagrees with your song of hate and division is working for the GOP?
One thing you must understand Mr Rexon is Cameroun - Cameroon unity and integrity is UNTOUCHABLE my friend. If you care about our people, dont sit in Sweeden. Go to Cameroon and start something. Be proactive! Dont hide behind that attitude of "is the government's fault". There are many Cameroonians successfully accomplishing things in Cameroon. Private Radios and Tvs beeing created, private University (Medical Schools) businesses etc....
Cameroonians are winning elections in Europe, America etc... Where are you Mr Rexon?
Bottom line, Cameroonians and the world want Cameroon united even though we are looking forward for changes that will make our Country stand to its full potential.

Ma Mary said:
"There is no country called anglophonia; no people called anglophones who joined with a country called francophonia with people called francophones."

"A country called Southern Cameroons elected to join another country called Republique du Cameroun in 1961 to form a federated state."
Answer: Ma Mary, Cameroon history did not start in 1961. We have told you time and time again that you selectively choose that your so called "historical colonial facts" to suit your propaganda in this forum.
The will of the people of Cameroon is holding our Country united.
The British and the French did not make Cameroon, Ma Mary. The Germans will tell you that. They only divided Kamerun for their selfish administrative purpose.
Ma Mary, why dont you defend our african identity? Your cultural identity is Cameroonian...

In the Cameroon of the future, there will be no Anglophone, Francophone, ewondo, beti, bamileke, fulbes,douala, mbos bakweris etc,... But Cameroonians with a pledge to a legion of a flag:
"GREEN, RED AND YELLOW"
"ONE CAMEROON, ONE PEOPLE, ONE DESTINY"

That is the Cameroon CAADIM is fighting for...

May God bless our beautiful Country, the Republic of Cameroon!

Riccardo
CAADIM

[tayong]

Ricardo

You dont have any moral integrity when it comes to talking about nationhood. When the foundations upon which a nation is built are shaken that nation risks falling apart and that's the case with Cameroon.You know this definitely and choose to destroy it.

The forefathers of the beloved land of ours would scream should they be alive to see whats happening to this nation taken hostage by regime. Ricardo I know Yang Philemon better than you do and rest assured you guys cant succeed to destroy this nation.

I dont know of any nation today called "Kamerun" on the world map but a two state entity called Cameroon whose binationality is at the brink of collapse.

Patriots are those who fight to restore the very foundations on which that nation was built not those who for selfish reasons convive with hencmen back home destroy that the nation.

Now you want to dissociate yourself from Yang by saying you attend all meetings.Yes in your disguised form you attend all meetings to gather informatiom for your masters. From meetings to will attend all "Njangi" houses.Keep on attending meetings. Time will tell who hates Cameroon.

Tayong

[vito]

Riccardo,to be able to solve a problem,we must first acknowledge its existence,identify its cause(s);assess different solutions and most importantly have the good faith to implement them.
now you're right about Kamerun,but then Kamerun is not The Republic of Cameroun.Any reference to Kamerun will have to take into account the "Northern Cameroons";and that would only compound a simple problem.Kamerun was subjected to external forces that at different points in history shaped and re-shaped its identity and destiny;that so and until the 1961 plebiscite when an oppotunity availed itself for Kamerun to witness a rebirth;hence the significance and importance of that particular to true Kamerunians not that history began that year but then history would have been made that year.Well (unfortunately?),THe Northerh Cameroons decided to jointhe Federal Republic of Nigeria and become as a state equal in status to the others in the nigerian federation.The Southern Cameroons decided to join with The Republic of Cameroun to form a two state federation called The Federal Republic of Cameroon with a flag as you rightly say Green Red and Yellow but then with TWO STARS IN THE GREEN BAND.So you see brother,the year 1961 is very important to us all because it marked the birth of a beautiful nation;a nation born of love trust and goodwill.Today that same peice of land is full of hate suspiscion and deceit.Reason why citizens of goodwill suggest we go back to the former.A STRONG UNITED AND INDIVISIBLE "FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF CAMEROON" WITH FLAG, "GREEN RED AND YELLOW,WITH TWO BEAUTIFUL STARS IN THE GREEN BAND"
ONE NATION ONE DESTINY UNDER GOD!
Best Regards.

[Pikin]

It is sad and to an extent tragic comic to realise that we have been relegated to keyboard activists and internet politicians. And I find it somewhat simplistic and fodder for genocide to push the problem Cameroon is facing today under the topic ‘Anglophones vs Francophones. People, stating the obvious does not bestow on us the status of ‘intellectuals’. It doesn’t take glasses fabricated by the NASA in the Arizona desert to realise that Cameroon has a problem, neither do we need to look to hard to see what that problem is. Greed is what is killing is killing this nation. And is it a trait found in Anglos and Frogs alike! And I pray that by some divine intervention that it is not a ‘hereditary’ gene and that is it has not been generously handed down to the youth of the nation.

Once more I would reaffirm that I pledge no allegiance to any political group or faction as it is my humble opinion that should Biya and his puppets, Fru and his circus and even the Secessionists and their theories be put into one giant pot, they would all boil at the temperature called LANGA!

It would be foolhardy to refute the fact that Anglos suffer a degree of marginalisation. All minorities scattered all over the globe do. What I refuse to acknowledge is the fact that the stone should be thrown at every frog. That I am sorry to say is totally wrong, and what kind of future are you the elders leaving to us the youth by teaching us to identify the enemy in each other? Be it the frogs saying the Anglos are pieces of excrement and be it the Anglos saying the frogs are thieving bastards.

There is a saying that ‘When elephants fight, the grass suffers’, and the Cameroonian youth is suffocating in the nuclear dust created by the constant clashing of our fathers and uncles. It is this perceived lack of opportunity, growth stagnation and the thought of impeding doom that has sparked the ‘Bush falling’ frenzy among Kamer’s youth and the brain drain that has resulted. And who can blame us? On any given day walk by the French Embassy and you will see how many ‘young frogs’ share the same frustrations with the anglos at the British consulate and ‘Etas’ embassy.

Fathers and big brothers let us stop pointing fingers and calling names, that is just too easy to do. Let us map out workable, achievable solutions to the problems Cameroon face, if not for your sake (because wunna time di cam pass) for the sake of the kids you so sweatily seeded.

It is neither the CPDM, nor SDF nor the SCNC that puts food on the plate of the average Cameroonian, NO! It is the sweat they pour in the hundreds of markets scattered all over pays, it is the back they break in the farms and the petty stores they tend. It would be ignorantly bliss and far too utopic to believe that 16 million people can live in perfect harmony, but insults and finger pointing never built any nation, ACTIONS and SOLUTIONS did. Quit with the beer house politics.

Make I leave wunna ma grand them.

[Akoson]

Mr. Tayong,

You got something a lil wrong above if I'm not making a mistake you said Southern Cameroons've a population of about 3 million people. NO, my friend. Check your records again...

Liste, the Southern Cameroons has a surface area of 43,000 sq. km and a current population of about 6 million people. It is thus demographically bigger than at least 60 UN and 18 AU member states, and spatially bigger than at least 30 UN and 12 AU member states. Located in the "armpit" of Africa, it is sandwiched between Nigeria and Republique du Cameroon like a wedge betweeen West Africa and what in effect's still French Equatorial Africa. It has frontiers to the West and North with Nigeria, to the East with Republique du Cameroon, and to the South with the Equatorial Guinean Island(the name of the island just slipped ma memory).

Please, note that these borders are well attested by international boundary treaties.

These figures are accurate! If they're not, they can be only SLIGHTLY different. That's only if ma memory's not working well now. I bet someone like Rexon has got all data about this.

The SON.

[tayong]

Pikin
Now you are talking. Some sense seems to be coming out unlike the other fellow up there. Now let me unravel a few things on this issue since it appears you're new to the whole show in here.

Just as my good friend Vito puts it up there, Southern Cameroon decided to form a nation with Eastern Cameroon while Northern Cameroon decided to join Nigeria. Southern Cameroon has always loved to remain in this Union provided their own identity is preserved within the Union. They have never, until hell broke loose recently, advocated for a seccession.

A regime that caters for its people will immediately call for a dialogue under such circumstances to examine exactly the root causes of such advocacy. It's not by brutal arrests torture and intimidation that national uprisings are quelled.

Men of goodfaith not even of Southern Cameroon extraction have tried to make the regime to see reason in resolving the issue diplomatically, rather the regime employs Yang et co to distort international opinion unfortunately at the expense of the tax payers hard earned currency.

Pekin, the real enemies of this nation are people who refuse to acknowledge the existence of the countries' problems but rather go deceiving everyone all is well. They say there isn't any Southern Cameroon identity issue etc , the country is in good shape, patata patati.

Let me say this in this forum for the very first time and to the shocking discovery of many. Im a human right activist of the Southern Cameoon extraction and dont even militant in any political party not even the SCNC . But the truth remains the as a Cameroonian I cant stand to see the nation shrink into the abyss with feymen taking it hostage by trying to stiffle any effort towards national dialogue and reconciliation.

That's not the way our forefathers intended in to be. Late Ahmadou Ahidjo told the UN in 1959 he wouldn't use numerical strength of the French Cameroon to impose any idea on "his brothers" under British rule but will at every moment consult them for a way forward. This spirit has disappeared and today replaced by complete assimilation policy.

So Pikin there's a problem that needs fixing.Join us for our nation to stand else we risk having shreds of what used to be the nation of Atangana, Felix Ouandie, Reuben Om, Tumazah et co

Tayong

[tayong]

...Yes Akoson
Correction accepted on that figure of 6million and thanks.
...Pikin
forget those typing errors and get my message.thanks

[Ongola-Iwondo]

@ Agbor T

I read your good posting and must admit we can’t always write everything (we at times guess the other interlocutor will read between the lines) and by so doing I acknowledge you’re right on most of the issues…I’m very objective Man, and I know the situation back home…and at our own level, we(each and every one) try as much as possible to help our Country though not physically present everyday. A popular musicain in Africa said : „la verite meme en prenant les escaliers finira par arriver”.

@ Tabeng Tayim |
Though the the US Ambasador might be right you should also understand the motives under these comments . Why are the US suddenly turning back to Cameroon after 16years(when Mrs. Cook was the US Ambassador) ? Why is America so interested in investments in Cameroon than in other African countries today? Have you asked yourself these questions?

Talking about the allusion made on Malcolm X and MLK, I refer mostly to the Malcolm before before March 8, 1964 some weeks before his pilgrimage to Mecca. You’ll accept with me that he made more harm than good to his people…but the guy who came back from the pilgrimage acknowledged certain facts and almost coverged to MLK view of things (had the former lived for 2 or 4 more years, America would’ave been different even today).

We’ll never REALLY know what happened during the Foumban Conference (during the days and nights in the different rooms) long time before the reunification; that wasn’t a problem of the ballot…

@ vito
The theme of the debate was of course from lecture of the article BUT AS USUAL, the majority deviated from it bringing up some bumpkinish propaganda trying to divide.

@ Akoson
Now, permit me to lower myself to your level and retaliate very swiftly to your languish insinuations: from your writings it is very easy to depict the type of abominable vulgar dolt you are. I’m sorry, but that’s the least I could say.

Who Am I? I’m just a human being like you but with a difference because I ‘m blessed to know both sides of the world in or out of Cameroon. For sure we’ll agree on one thing: there are two worlds back home as well as overseas.

One thing should be clear between us, this forum isn’t the ideal place to boost ones CV but let me tell you this: there is no place in this world I ‘ll travel to without having the treatment I richly deserve independently of my temporal stay…and this is not due to a particular nationality but thanks to my modest accomplishments. Poor brother who can’t even read between the lines! Take good care of yourself !!

@ Y’all
In the light of some of your names(IDs) and your postings, one would have expected you to put forward the "myth of the cave". That is, showing some rationality, objectivity and tact… and that you emit a judgement deprived of all the epistemological obstacles and independent prejudices and sensationalism subjectivists. But one assists rather at reaction which translates the doxy in which you seem unrelentingly immersed, making thus superfluous the noble ideology this forum….Aaaah Cameronians, a band of comics!

Now let me have a break and vacate to my different occupations. Whenever possible and if judged necessary I’ll put up a very noticeable posting as done at least the last 48hrs…but for now I already know who really can debate. So done, I wish you and your families a wonderful weekend with all the things you so richly deserve…

Best regards,
Ongola-Iwondo

[Njifenzt]

This recent report about the deplorable position of our country is ever obvious.
The present regime is truely a handful of greedy threats to the progress of our country.
Eloquent criticism of our management system without a veritable proposal to a path of improvement or moving foward is just as bad.Cameroonians at home and abroad from the year 1988 till date can agree to a greater extent that the system is heading to a total full stop.
As a primary step towards nationwide development an progress, i implore all Cameroonians to treat their nation just as their household maanagement.The next should be a more belligerent approach to dealing with the bad managers on the ground.One of such methods is to abstain totally from a civil activity like elections.Naming and shaming, incarceration of corrupt theives,speaking out loud without fear nor favour(the truth) remain the key steps without ticking war as an option.There is a looming view in my mind that Cameroon, as a nation need to pay a huge sacrifice of (human life and collosal damages) to see progrressive change.This should be the last option otherwise the next gouvenance perception index would still remain the same.

[Feli]

Rexon,
you are not the author of the article you posted on Thursday, 16 November 2006 at 06:09 PM seen below, so why did you attach you name beneath it? The article was written by a pro-democracy campaigner of the Cameroon Campaign Group who believes in genuine change in Cameroon through legitimate, free and fair elections. This is ideologically and fundamentally different from what you have opined in this forum since its inception.
You do not want to tell me that Rexon, the hater of La Republique, has suddenly changed his stance to clamour for an independent electoral commission.
Please, to change Cameroon we need a high degree steadfastness. Anything tantamount to that is pure distraction.

Cameroon’s President Paul Biya has been ranked one of the four worst dictators in sub-Saharan Africa and one of the world’s worst 20. Mr. Biya is ranked with only two others in sub-Saharan Africa: Robert Mugabe and King Mswati of Swaziland.

Cameroon’s President Paul Biya has been ranked one of the four worst dictators in sub-Saharan Africa and one of the world’s worst 20. Mr. Biya is ranked with only two others in sub-Saharan Africa: Robert Mugabe and King Mswati of Swaziland. The ranking appears in David Wallechnisky new book: Tyrants, the world's 20 worst living dictators, Regan Press, 2006, pp. 286-290. Mr. Wallechinsky a historian, has worked as a commentator for the America television network, the NBC and is author of several reference books. Wallechnisky describes Cameroon's electoral process in these terms:

“Every few years, Biya stages an election to justify his continuing reign, but these elections have no credibility. In fact, Biya is credited with a creative innovation in the world of phony elections. In 2004, annoyed by the criticisms of international vote-monitoring groups, he paid for his own set of international observers, six ex-U.S. congressmen, who certified his election as free and fair.”
Since 2003, Wallechnisky has been writing an annual article for Parade magazine, ranking the 10 worst dictators currently in power. Now he has expanded the list and written a book on the subject, referred to above.
This classification comes in the wake of another publication ranking Cameroon among the five worst countries in the world in terms of governance, the other countries being Iraq, Chad, Somalia, Zimbabwe and Romania. The information is contained in a Governance Perception Index, a survey carried out at Harvard University led by Professor Robert Rotberg, of Kennedy School of Government and President, World Peace Foundation. Harvard is of the world’s best Universities. Transparency International has ranked Cameroon one of the most corrupt countries in the world. The latest ranking puts Cameroon at number 138 out of 163 countries. Other credible reports by United Nations agencies, US State Department, Amnesty International and others carry similar evidence of the abysmal state of governance and human rights in Cameroon. Instead of dismissing all these evidence as fallacy or burying our heads in the sand in the hope that things will change, all those with a stake in the country need to wake up to reality and do something about it.
As Cameroon prepares for local elections next year, it is worth pointing out that until the government allows for free and fair elections, the country will never get out of poverty. Free and fair elections can only come about through an independent electoral management process in accordance with the Durban Declaration etc. The government has to realise that Cameroon’s present image of a badly governed state means it will always be difficult to attract appropriate and substantial external investment to create jobs and eradicate poverty. As patriotic as anyone will like to be, it is almost impossible to mask the true state of affiars - the amount of credible information in the public domain pointing to our country’s lack of good governance is enormous and there is a need for those in power to wake up to this by setting up a truly independent electoral commission and the rest will follow.

[Ma Mary]

Interesting piece, Feli. This system automatically signs you at the bottom of any piece you post on the comment, so for example Feli under the piece you posted was automatic. Therefore people may want to state the source if posting something from another author.

The main characteristic or the people defending the oppressor is the blame the victim syndrome. Southern Cameroonians and Camerounese who are out are there not because they hate their countries but because of the criminals in power.

There are two different things happening here, and it is important not to confuse them. Even if la Republique du Cameroun was pure and clean, annexation and voiding of the contract of incorporation of the Federal Republic of Cameroon by one of the partners is not something that we shall sweep under the carpet as the individual who goes by Ongola-Iwondo(the Kumba Ewondo) suggests.

The corruption and electoral malfeasance is another matter. There are interests in la Republique who would like us to focus on the one and not the other, so that they can continue to rule us and feast on our labour and resources. Sorry. Will not happen.

[Watesih]

Let me come in here again.I almost strayed into a reverie reading from the new breed of Havard trained vacilitators.But as we usually say in Africa, a cooking pot for the lizard is a cook pot for the Chameleon.When somebody is promoted within the ranks of the various dark forces that compete for ostentation to destroy Cameroon,he or she always makes a promise to his ringleaders, and co-pilots.He would promise them to tell the truth to those idiots who dare bandy looks with the divine rulers of Cameroon. Their neurotic minds start pouring venom following the same pattern:
1. First they are always people who have naturally sacrificed for Cameroon,or the SDF and would want to be seen as the mouthpieces of a group of people discriminated upon.
2. They always conceal their identities,
involve themselves in identity theft, and impersonation.
3.Hubris always blinds them into opting to publish their CVs here.
4. Primitivity makes them to celebrate the new delicacies they enjoy in their new Eldorados,from food,money ,and education.
5.In their bid to impress readers,they will use all languages to tell their stories,from pidgin to English,from English to French and back.
6.Their stay on the forum is always shortlived ,because someone who gives away much during his first outing would not have a leg to dance on when he is subsequently attacked from all directions.
7. They always capitalise on regional dichotomies to inflict psychological pain on others.
8. They always have one behavioural pattern;
trying to defend that which cannot be defended,thereby exposing their intentions.

THOUGHTS OF THE WEEK.
- " I think enough is enough.We of the left wing canno longer associate with this Graffi group.Btw, it is they who come to the Southwest for survival.If you disagree, why do you refuse to leave Kumba even when they ask you"
- " Can someone involved in government give us the positives of this arrangements? You can say what you like,but the government as i see is currently trying its best.No one wishes you goodluck in your unholy quest ,and it can almost completely be said that you have no chance to succeed. You are working against people and systems that are by far your betters" Hmm!
- " Kumbaboy,i don`t want you to soon become Bamenda boy,you must stay down there as 'Cam no go'.Terrorists are serving time in Kondengui drinking cold water garri without sugar. I just finished my nice roasted British beef for super"
- " There`s someone who makes some very good comments about Ni Ben. His name is....I`m Ni Ben`s supporter,and Ni Ben wants to meet him,to thank him for the good job. If its you lets go and meet him"
- " For sure we'll agreeon one thing:there are two worlds back home as well as overseas. I`m blessed to know both sides of the world in or out of cameroon.There`s no place in this world I'll travel to without having the treament i RICHLY deserve independently of my temporal stay"
-" My dad is Francophone, my mother is Anglophone.I was raised in Yaounde...and as long as there is God in heaven,and as true as our forefathers,and ancestors fought for wht they believed in , Kamer will survive"