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Howard Mbeli


The president speech was just a reminder of his long 7 years term in office. When will President Biya in his new year address. tell his so call compatriots "HOPE IS ON THE WAY"
African Leaders should stop serving the west and turn to their compatriots. gas pruduce in Limbe is sold in Cameroon for 500 cfa a gallon. Is france still controling the oil in Limbe.
If the president dont want to go home he should go on exile. Dont dream like you freind in Togo. Because that will not happend in that land.

Howard Mbeli


The president speech was just a reminder of his long 7 years term in office. When will President Biya in his new year address. tell his so call compatriots "HOPE IS ON THE WAY"
African Leaders should stop serving the west and turn to their compatriots. gas pruduce in Limbe is sold in Cameroon for 500 cfa a gallon. Is france still controling the oil in Limbe.
If the president dont want to go home he should go on exile. Stop dreaming.

Howard Mbeli


The president speech was just a reminder of his long 7 years term in office. When will President Biya in his new year address. tell his so call compatriots "HOPE IS ON THE WAY"
African Leaders should stop serving the west and turn to their compatriots. gas pruduce in Limbe is sold in Cameroon for 500 cfa a gallon. Is france still controling the oil in Limbe.
If the president dont want to go home he should go on exile. Stop dreaming.

Howard Mbeli

The president speech was just a reminder of his long 7 years term in office. When will President Biya in his new year address. tell his so call compatriots "HOPE IS ON THE WAY"
African Leaders should stop serving the west and turn to their compatriots. gas pruduce in Limbe is sold in Cameroon for 500 cfa a gallon. Is france still controling the oil in Limbe.
If the president dont want to go home he should go on exile. Stop dreaming.

Sammy

Lets hope all what Mr Biya has said and promise will be transform to action. alot needs to be done in Cameroon with regard to fighting corruption, Mr President needs to revisit the tax syterm because we find it difficult to invest in Cameroon under the the present TAX law.

van

JUST LIKE LAST YEAR NO CHANGE.SHAME,SPEACHES WILL NEVER FREE US

Che Mofor

His Excellency, The President has done it again. He has mentioned the popular problems we all know of and even reminded us of some of the issues that many might have forgotten. Truly, this kind of statement punctuated with promises from Mr. Biya at the end of the old year is not new. We had a similar statement at the end of 2004. How much was really achieved in 2005 is a function of who is analysing. The more difficult issue, from my experience, is the realisation of the many promises. The first solution of a problem is identifying the problem. But what has really been the reason for a poor realisation of Mr. Biya's promises? I spare your time and consider only two aspects of his speech, which I here relate:

The energy crises in our country in the past few years as the president mentions; where did we fail? Energy, besides water and health, is a comodity that the government of a nation has to guarantee to its citizens at as low cost as possible. In privatising such a sector, the government has to set privatisation conditions in the contract of privatisation that protect the interest of the citizens, for example, the concerned energy supply company MUST guarantee a minimum constant power (voltage) supply at least to the areas that were already covered by the Nantional Electricity Cooporation (SONEL). The contract should contain clear arrangements on the rate of electrification of new areas and regions. It should also regulate the price of electrical energy, depending on the per capita income of the average cameroonian. In my opinion, the privatisation contract was either short of these requirements or there was a bridge of contract from the side of the energy exploitation company, in which case disciplinery measures must be applicable.

What were the consequences of the unreliable energy system of our fatherland? Companies in the urban, semi-urban and rural areas were not able to produce constantly. As a result, they could not also pay their workers regularly. The families of such workers shall also not be able to meet with their minimum needs like health care, feeding, school fees etc. Such companies have the full right to re-negotiate their tax with the government, thus reducing the governments revenue from taxation. That same government must be forced to deep its hand both/either into the pockets of the citizens and/or IMF etc. In the long run, the citizens are the very ones to suffer the effect of loans etc. The chain of negative effects can be extended to infinity.

But why have we not been able to manage our energy system reliably? We have not lernt to be self reliant and self sufficent. The President mentioned Lom Pangar, Nachtgal, Memveele and Colomines dam and power station projects, as well as the Kribi gas plant. What amount of energy can be generated from all these places? How much does it take to establish power plants at these places and how much does it cost to maintain these plants for several years? The irony in this issue is that the Menchum Fall, that falls from a great height supplies water at the foot of the fall with enormous potential energy. This energy only needs to be converted into electrical energy with turbines and stepped up with transformers. It shall certainly cost some money to establish a plant there, but it shall not be as high as the cost of building dams across rivers. The fall is natural and can thus be guaranteed for a sufficiently long time without posing floading dangers like in the case with dams. Why don't we consider this Menchum Fall as an option that can supply a significantly large population?

The President talked about improvement in the educational system. Unfortunately he was not precise. What is really lacking in our educational system? Recently, I discussed with The Post in an interview about Computer Science at the Cameroon GCE. Click here http://www.postnewsline.com/2005/12/computer_scienc.html
Up to GCE A Level and baccaleriat, the Cameroonian student is well equipped to get into application-oriented fields of study. Unfortunately (traditionally), young Cameroonians continue into universities within the country to get indepth understanding of subjects like Physics, Mathematics, History etc. etc. When they graduate, they only think of going back to teach those very subjects at junior schools. In other words, we are still embarking on teaching Cameroonians how to read and write. This is the post-colonial mentality. We are late Mr. President, but there are still ways out as I criticise and suggest. Considering that the Polytechnique and the other schools that lead to special professions in the public service are outdated, I strongly suggest that the government allocates a significant part of its educational budget to instituting faculties of engineering and medicine in the universities. Young Cameroonians shall then gain the knowledge to help their country with much patriotism. It will no longer be like surrendering the energy sector in the hands of foreingers who think only about their profit and not the welbeing of the citizens of that country. Our engineers shall develop a very reliable and relatively cheap tele- and mobile communication system and plan a better transport system (roady, bridges ect)for our people. The students who shall learn Computer Science at school shall expand their skills in their various areas of studies for the develpoment of the nation or embark on other self-reliant activities. Indeed, CUSS has not succeeded in providing sufficient medical experts for our country. Our population grew from 8 to 16 million in less than 15 years. This expenential growth in population demands that more doctors be trained and CUSS alone is not suffient. More so, our medics from CUSS need additional training, so that they specialise to become experts in special health areas, so as to render adequate medical service to the Cameroonian people. In this light, I suggest that at least two state universities be provided with medicine faculties and CUSS be equipped with facilities that shall help our medics get specialisation. The greatest job that the government shall have to do will be to design methods of stopping the medics trained in CUSS from escaping to the West. One approach should be the provision of attractive working conditions.

In my opinion, it is better we prepare ourselves to face future challenges, else the system shall get to a quasi-collapse. It shall be more difficult for us to recover from such a collapse, since the social system shall no longer be functional.

Once more the government of President Biya has earmarked the areas where the country needs serious attention and we keep our ears wide and our eyes open in 2006 to judge whether the president really means what he is saying.

Thanks for reading :)
A. Che Mofor

Dr A A Agbormbai

The Post,

Can you please reinstate my commentary on this issue that I posted on the "Update: How 911 Operator's Quick Thinking ..." article? I don't keep copies of my commentaries.

Thanks for your co-operation.

dango tumma

for 24 yrs, what has this thief said that
turn out latter right? none what have he
said and latter on get done? none.
shame on those who keep believing him,
why cant he resign, are all qualified men/
women in that land dead who can do abetter job, obviouslously he is not the best qualify person, he is only a french man in
black skin ruining this african people
whose hands are tied back unable to fight back , because of his military apparatus.

dango tumma

the bandit call biya, he didnt even mention or acknowledge the scnc and the southern cameroons, independence, that shows just how coward he is. any other leader would have telll the people and the world what he intend to do regarding the failed union with southern cameroons and the aftermath. what solution he have.
he thinks by tinkering it with silence
he isnt tinkering with (peace and stability) of african people.

The Post

Regrets To Dr Agbormbai:
We have no means to recover comments once they have been removed.

Fet Fomb

It is interesting to hear mr president talk of stagnating production of cash crops. His regret is certainly that his enslaved cocoa and coffee farmers are not producing enough of these crops for his blessed cronies to feed fat on. The average high school/university graduate in Cameroon aspires to live abroard, and this is a consequence of all this empty talk, and the stinking corruption. The president now seems to have the prove that his government is very corrupt which is what he once asked for. If there were a powerful genuine body in Cameroon to probe corruption and bring about the apprehension of culprits, the president would be behind bars. He in the first place, would not be president, because his electoral process is seething with corrupt practices. For how long has this man been in power? More than two decades!! and year after year, he mounts the podium to read nonsense.

dango tumma

ACCORDNG TO HIM, HIS COUNTRY IS BILINGUAL
DID HE CARRIED HIS SPEECH IN BOTH LANGUAGES OR ONLY IN HIS FRENCH?

Dr A A Agbormbai

If anyone had the good sense of making a copy of my commentary on this issue that was placed on the 911 article last night please be kind to post them here, under this article.

Thanks for your co-operation.

stanley

THERE IS NO END TO THE WRITING OF BOOKS ,THERE IS NO END TO THE READING OF SPEECHES.A man will rule a country for 23years and still writes and reads the trash which the reliable newspapaer has posted above.It will sound so sweet to the eyes to read ,my brothers and sisters don t be deceived by words le these.These are not Biya s words btw;they have been writing by close collaborators of he s who went to the school of reading and writing.Ask the average cameroonian how difficult he finds it to live in this hell Biya is creating,the average cameroonian does not earn 500frs a day ,whch means with 100 000frs one is suppose to be able to put up a small or medium size bsness.But the heavy strictly increasing tax function of this gvt has denied this possibility to its fellow country men.Paul should stop trying to entertain people with well written trash,when matters are critical.what has he acheived concretely , pls just reread and notice he is just dancing with elementary economics word which we all know.In short anyone who gets moved by this nonesence is allowing his heart to rule his heard and ths is litmus test for the misundersatnding of the problem of our fatherland.

reverend

President Biya says "Public funds are embezzled, it should be recalled, at the expense of the nation. I want this say very solemnly today: This must stop."

Mr. President, some questions for you to answer:

1) You have a luxurious palace in Mvomeka with a private golf course and an air strip. Can you tell us where you got the money from?

2) You once publicly called yourself a successful farmer and you have many plantations in the South Province and Edea. Again where did you get the money?

3) Your wife Chantal Biya does not have a profession and has no private business. Yet she spends lavishly on "charitable" projects. Can you order an audit into CERAC and Fondation Chantal Biya?

4) Your son Frank Biya, runs one of the most successfully forest exploitation companies in Cameroon, Ingenierie Forestiere which the WWF asked the Cameroon government to investigate for illegal logging. What has become of this?

5) Your constitution says public officials must declare their assets. We are still waiting for you to do this.

6) The General Manager of the then Cameroon Bank, Messi Messi fled to Canada in 1989 and said publicly that you and your wife (Jean Irene) ruined the bank by taking out huge sums as loans which you never repaid. Up till this day, you have sealed your lips on this issue.

7) You build a governemnt school (Les Cocinelles de Palais) in the Unity Palace which your children and those of your friends attend while there are other government schools just outside your gate (Ecoles Publiques de Etoudi and Ecole Bilingue d'Emana) which are in deplorable conditions.

Listen Biya, you do not have the moral authority to fight corruption. The Englishman says: "He who lives in glass houses cannot throw stones". It is popular knowledge in Cameroon that you are a dishonest man and have used Cameroon's resources to enrich yourself and your family beyond people's wildest dreams. You cannot then turn round and tell the policeman on the street, the headmaster, the principal in our schools, our treasurers to stop this habit. I have seen a SONEL worker in Bamenda take a bribe from someone who was illegally diverting electricity. He did it openly in the house in front of little children and did not even attempt to hide. He clearly said that "Biya is up there stealing his own share and I am just following the pattern he has set for us".

Mr. President, corruption in Cameroon can only be solved by your immediate resignation together with those of your cohorts. We Cameroonians are generous and can protect you from prosecution from any crimes in office. Only then can Cameroon start on a new leaf with a new leader who at least can have the confidence of the people. But do you Biya have enough courage to liberate yourself from materialism first and then Cameroon?

God bless you Paul Biya and the best wishes for the New Year.

Madiba

WE NEED A REVOLUTIONARY TO LEAD CAMEROONIANS.

Whenever you listen to President Biya's speeches, you get all the trappings of a bureaucrat.His speeches are totally void of pragmatism.Listen to him,"If we honour the commitments we have made, we will probably be able to reach the famous completion point of the HIPC initiative in 2006." "There is a clear mismatch between our efforts to..."and so on and so forth.The same old song from the same old juke box.I think by now, even the most orthodox C.P.D.M stalwart should be as tired of listening to such speeches as the biblical donkey which carried Jesus into Jerusalem.Fellow Cameroonians,the post_Biya era(for it must come),will be tough(in all its ramifications),let us face the facts.This man his outlived his usefulness.His end of year speech says it all.The writing is clear on the wall.
The time is now,now is the time for all Cameroonians in the Motherland as well as in the diaspora to start thinking of possible ways of reviving our nation and thawing it from the brink of cataclysm.Whoever will take up the mantle to lead Cameroonians in the future will have a garguantan task.In the first five years of his rule he will need to "nip corruption in the bud".For example in the fight against corruption, such a leader will in his end of year speech, read the names of the top officials who have been found guilty of corrupt practices during the course of that year.This will immediately be followed by the strict implimentation of the judicial proceedings against such officials.I think we can take a leaf from Ghana during the reign of Jerry Rawlings.The death penalty was instituted for those who were guilty of corruption charges.Yes,some will say such a measure is too harsh.But for a country like Cameroon,where this cankerworm his eaten right deep into its fabrics,such a measure will become a serious deterent.That is how far a President can go in fighting corruption.
We need a New Era where our educational system will become job oriented.We need a total revolution in the economic sector where like China the producer economy is prioritised to the consumer economy.A functional system whereby our economy is built from within and a complete end to this ready made policies of the Bretton Woods institions(IMF and World Bank).Such a leader must be prepared to become very unpopular with the west.A leader like Biya or any of his western oriented chronies will never deliver the goods.If Africans are not ready to defy the international community like the Mao's,Castro's or our own brother Mugabe(Bob),we shall never,never,never attain economic growth.Look at China,its a miracle what the Chinese are doing.Ten years ago, the US was the largest supplier of corn in the world.Five years ago,China and the US were at parity.What do we see today?,China has beaten the US "hands down" as we say in local parlance.It has emerged to become the greatest corn and wheat supplier in the world.Companies and industries in the US and Europe are now relocating to China because of cheap productivity.
We need leaders who are first and foremost patriots who are ready to take the bullet and to defy popular western opinions which donot serve our interests.Not leaders who are ready to jump on the first plane to France whenever the "the throne becomes hot".Anyway,history has proven to us time without number that bureaucrats make very bad leaders.2006,will come and go and lets be rest assured that nothing is going to change in our dear Motherland unless the present statusquo is over turned by a powerful hurricane.Godspeed to all Cameroonians.

Madiba

WE NEED A REVOLUTIONARY TO LEAD CAMEROONIANS.

Whenever you listen to President Biya's speeches, you get all the trappings of a bureaucrat.His speeches are totally void of pragmatism.Listen to him,"If we honour the commitments we have made, we will probably be able to reach the famous completion point of the HIPC initiative in 2006." "There is a clear mismatch between our efforts to..."and so on and so forth.The same old song from the same old juke box.I think by now, even the most orthodox C.P.D.M stalwart should be as tired of listening to such speeches as the biblical donkey which carried Jesus into Jerusalem.Fellow Cameroonians,the post_Biya era(for it must come),will be tough(in all its ramifications),let us face the facts.This man his outlived his usefulness.His end of year speech says it all.The writing is clear on the wall.
The time is now,now is the time for all Cameroonians in the Motherland as well as in the diaspora to start thinking of possible ways of reviving our nation and thawing it from the brink of cataclysm.Whoever will take up the mantle to lead Cameroonians in the future will have a garguantan task.In the first five years of his rule he will need to "nip corruption in the bud".For example in the fight against corruption, such a leader will in his end of year speech, read the names of the top officials who have been found guilty of corrupt practices during the course of that year.This will immediately be followed by the strict implimentation of the judicial proceedings against such officials.I think we can take a leaf from Ghana during the reign of Jerry Rawlings.The death penalty was instituted for those who were guilty of corruption charges.Yes,some will say such a measure is too harsh.But for a country like Cameroon,where this cankerworm his eaten right deep into its fabrics,such a measure will become a serious deterent.That is how far a President can go in fighting corruption.
We need a New Era where our educational system will become job oriented.We need a total revolution in the economic sector where like China the producer economy is prioritised to the consumer economy.A functional system whereby our economy is built from within and a complete end to this ready made policies of the Bretton Woods institions(IMF and World Bank).Such a leader must be prepared to become very unpopular with the west.A leader like Biya or any of his western oriented chronies will never deliver the goods.If Africans are not ready to defy the international community like the Mao's,Castro's or our own brother Mugabe(Bob),we shall never,never,never attain economic growth.Look at China,its a miracle what the Chinese are doing.Ten years ago, the US was the largest supplier of corn in the world.Five years ago,China and the US were at parity.What do we see today?,China has beaten the US "hands down" as we say in local parlance.It has emerged to become the greatest corn and wheat supplier in the world.Companies and industries in the US and Europe are now relocating to China because of cheap productivity.
We need leaders who are first and foremost patriots who are ready to take the bullet and to defy popular western opinions which donot serve our interests.Not leaders who are ready to jump on the first plane to France whenever the "the throne becomes hot".Anyway,history has proven to us time without number that bureaucrats make very bad leaders.2006,will come and go and lets be rest assured that nothing is going to change in our dear Motherland unless the present statusquo is over turned by a powerful hurricane.Godspeed to all Cameroonians.

Charles Forkwa

There is nothing new here. Mr. Biya is engaging in "politicspeak". Wide generalities, no specifics on past year's accomplishments and nextyear's goals.
We have heard it all before. Let those who are convinced and who really believe that something is being done translate this speech for me, because I am at a loss as to exactly what the president said.
This is an insult to the intelligence of Cameroonians and a continued abuse of thier goodwill and patience. The Cameronian is pepertually taken for a chump.
Another seven years at the end of which we will see another variation of the same diatribe.
This will end.

Kumbaboy

The LRC President said "...reaching the completion point of the HIPC initiative should, as I have said, relieve us of the crippling debt burden".

Monsieur Le President Biya, what is your fall back plan? Western creditors may deny LRC the HIPC Completion because your country is endowed with ABUNDANT RAINFALL, FERTILE LAND, petroleum, bauxite hydro potential and hard working people. In the 80s and under your watch, your country reportedly consumed more champagne than Great Britain!

The problem is that you (President Biya) is a contributing factor to the current economic and political crises. The unconstitutional annexation of Southern Cameroons and the unscrupulous financial empowerment of your ethnic group within the Administration and in the Army cadres led to the decimation of Banks in the late eighties. Your own businesses took large loans that “have not been repaid”, Messi Messi former head of Cameroon Bank said. In some years, you attended no more than one or two cabinet meeting.

You should RESIGN. When you do RESIGN, the region will celebrate.

Riccardo

Mr President,

Progressive Cameroonians need ACTIONS, ACTIONS, ACTIONS....

Progressive Cameroonians are Proud Patriots of Cameroon who believe in True Democracy, Peace, Transparency in managing our Country.

We want to see Corrupt Government Officials prosecuted according to our Laws.

We want to see the rule of Laws reinforced and accountability in government institutions.

We want our Security Forces to protect human rights of the citizens of our Country while fighting Potential Terrorists and prosecuting those that are calling for bloodshed, hatred amongst our people. These Potential Terrorists should be dealt with according to the Laws of our Country.
Swift and resolute actions should be applied. We know we can do it. Cameroon has more Graduates from West Point (USA)than any other African Country. This is a fact...

We want the Government to enact legislation that encourages businesses and create real jobs to alleviate poverty in our Country.

We want all forms of injustice, tribalism, nepotism eradicated in our society.

We want to see incompetent civil servants and Ministers fired and replaced with competent Cameroonians who can do the job.

We want to see real development, infrastructures in all provinces that will benefit every Cameroonian.

We want every Political Party SDF, UDC, UPC etc... to keep the pressure on the government in bringing constructive criticisms to help build a Modern and Democratic Country.

We want to thank all Progressive Cameroonians who are in Cameroon working hard daily to help build our Country.

Proud Cameroonians are English speaking, French speaking from North, South, West and East.

O CAMEROUN BERCEAU DE NOS ANCETRES !

BEAUTIFUL CAMEROON!

NO ONE WILL DIVISE US FOR HIS SELFISH INTEREST!

WE ARE WINNING, IT WILL BE BETTER!
LET'S WORK TOGETHER!

God Bless the Republic of Cameroon
Vive le Cameroun!

Riccardo
CAADIM (CAmeroonians Against the DIvision of our Motherland)

J Tambe

Howard Mbeli, fuel in Cameroon is more expensive than you thought. It is a litre that is sold at about FCFA 500 not a gallon.
Note that an American gallon is 3.8 litres.
So you will have to pay about FCFA 2000 to buy a gallon of fuel in Cameroon.
As usual, the president who should use his power to turn the country around has just brushed the issues to please the international donors. Just the old blah! Blah! There is no light at the end of Cameroon's tunnel unfortunately. God Bless Cameroon and perform a miracle for its people.

Niclay-Jose

Who the daft is this agbormbai? You are as irritating as this god-forsaken biya speech. What makes you even think that someone should have made a copy of your comments and what would be his or her reason for doing so? And if he or she did, then I would term that individual a dimwit. Don't be so vain to believe that your comments are worth keeping...Was that meant to be a version of chairman Mao's redbook.
Anyway, leaders like biya should make a proper self analysis of their last 20 odd years!! in gov't and they will find nohing but a chasm into which they have plunged their soul ( for which I care not) and pitifully, their country. This regime will be remembered as that which bequeathed Cameroonians a legacy of endemic corruption, turned neighbour against neighbour ( remember Oben Peter Ashu?)and eroded the nationalistic feeling that was so present in its people.
Under the previous regime, which was not saintly either, I must quickly add, Cameroonians were not known for 'bushfalling' and embezzling on such an industrial scale. Now, we easily champion both domains and I must add that we do it (embezzling) with a touch of class which leaves our Nigerian neighbours scratching their heads in wonderment.
Cameroon has fallen into a dismal state of disrepair and the mass exodus of its victims ( educated and uneducated) will persist so long as such vile regimes are in power. Brothers, Look round the corner at the Congo ( to me still Zaire); don't you wonder if there is anyone left in that country....

Charles Forkwa

Pleading with the President to do what he should have done and what he knows he should do defies logic. Are you saying that you have to remind him on his promises and mandate? How many times and how often will you do that? And as is the custom, when these pleas and "ass kissing" is ignored what will you do next? Keep doing the same old, same old?
Man, some posters here are so irrational or just unwilling to face the truth that I wonder how they conduct thier daliy business or if they have a handle on reality?
Keep pleading and asking the President to destroy those who want this nonsense to stop NOW! Also keep labeling critics of the administration "potential terrorists" and calling for thier procesution by a government without the moral authority to do such.
Beneficiaries of the status quo: I hope you stick with the sinking ship.

dango tumma

ricardo, cesse de rigoler tes betises ,ok
tu est vrai une honte de notre societe.

Tekum Mbeng

Just listen to H.E. Paul Biya "We have a huge agricultural potential. Yet, the production of our cash crops such as coffee and cocoa is stagnant. We only need to develop our food crops since there is a market for them. It is high time we embarked on such a major agricultural policy for which we are well equipped".

If he is truly de-emphasizing cash crops then how would he fill the fiscal gap in annual budgets given the continuous decline in petroleum production and increasing demand for resources.

What is the point growing more perishable food crops that will rot on farms because farm to market roads are in poor state.

When was the last time H.E. appeared in a Cameroonian attire? If every paysan dressed in French clothes like him and his ostentatious wife, would there be enough foreign currency to pay the import bill?

Here we find Paul Biya totally confused. The guy should resign.

dango tumma

ah ah ah
madiba, your analysis is fair but the
application of these capital punishment begins with who? the president himself.
paul biya is the number one thuef and the
first to be hanged or chopped into pieces as
samuel doe on national tv.

Ma Mary

Riccardo. I am really proud of you. The sentiments that you propound are the same ones with which Southern Cameroonians came to the Union. They are I am sorry to say, dated. Been there done that. Frogs talk a good game but NEVER mean what they say. NEVER live up to their ideals. Ideals are just POLITIQUE to them. Promises are just POLITIQUE to be broken, like the KUMBA-MAMFE-BAMENDA roads. Like the RINGROAD! We do not believe you mofos; we do not believe your president. Do you know the fable of the boy you cried wolf? Thanks to the internet I do not have to recite the story:

THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF

Frogs are like the boy who cried wolf. Southern Cameroonians would be extremely stupid to play along. Take your president and his empty words out of our land.

Peace and Happy New Year

Ma Mary

Ma Mary

Dr Agbormbai: I happened to scan the Biya speech and your comment that you planted under one of the murder stories. These are some of my impressions of what you are doing based on what you wrote this time and have been writing this past year.

You must be in possession of superior knowledge that you must impart on the rest of us, the great unwashed. I wait with bated breath for each new morsel so that I may learn something new and groundbreaking.

You have never really worked in Cameroon, so you are pure and untouched and your unvanished optimism will outlast the cynicism of our grey headed experience with the frogs. Somehow, you have the ability to convert hardened francafrique robbers into good patriotic citizens. Somehow our opposition to that system is based merely on malice or lack of understanding.

You are wiser than the late Fonchas, the Fossungs, the Lumas, the Munas who worked at the highest levels that Southern Cameroonians could reach in the Francafrique enterprise and came out disillusioned and convinced at their last breath that this was a mistake of the generations that must be reversed. Somehow you are wiser than those men, and their experience needs no study or consideration.

At other times I entertain the uncharitable thought that perhaps you are just seeking a high appointment from Governor Biya of Francafrique, at which point you voice would become silent and compliant as an employee of the enterprise. But I apologize.
That would be taking cynicism too far. At other times, I get the impression that you have not read the basic history of that which you are thinking of changing, but perhaps it is wrong to expect you to study history; it might contaminate the fresh, invigorating naivete of your perspective.

In anycase, good luck in the New Year.

Ma Mary

Dr Agbormbai: I happened to scan the Biya speech and your comment that you planted under one of the murder stories. Unfortunately I did not have the goodsense to preserve it in my archives. The self righteousness of that expectation has caused me to reflect what it means for you to be so important to others:

You must be in possession of superior knowledge that you must impart on the rest of us, the great unwashed. I wait with bated breath for each new morsel so that I may learn something new and groundbreaking.

You have never really worked in Cameroon, so you are pure and untouched and your unvanished optimism will outlast the cynicism of our grey headed experience with the frogs. Somehow, you have the ability to convert hardened francafrique robbers into good patriotic citizens. Somehow our opposition to that system is based merely on malice or a profound lack of understanding. Somehow the frogs would develop patriotism, good sense and honesty just by talking to them nicely, and not like those loud angryfools who do not represent proper anglosaxon ways and etiquette.

You are wiser than the late Fonchas, the Fossungs, the Lumas, the Munas who worked at the highest levels that Southern Cameroonians could reach in the Francafrique enterprise and came out disillusioned and convinced at their last breath that this was a mistake of the generations that must be reversed. Somehow you are wiser than those men, and their experience needs no study or consideration.

At other times I entertain the uncharitable thought that perhaps you are just seeking a high appointment from Governor Biya of Francafrique, at which point you voice would become silent and compliant as an employee of the enterprise. But I apologize.
That would be taking cynicism too far. At other times, I get the impression that you have not read the basic history of that which you are thinking of changing, but perhaps it is wrong to expect you to study the history; it might contaminate the fresh, invigorating naivete of your perspective.

In anycase, good luck in the New Year.

Elias Sakwe

Ma Mary

Dr A. Agbormbai reserves a right to be optimistic. One contact with the regime and his homeland like most of us have done in recent years is guaranteed to annoy the rocket scientist from Great Britain.

For a start, the security operatives at the airport will be interested in his political ideas and to show him who is incharge in Cameroon.

The most amazing phenomenon is how successful the people have been rendered impotent in a garrison state with so many security check-points. While the official purpose is law enforcement, security officers work these checkpoints to extort money from the population.

I humbly ask H.E. President Paul Biya to end this extortion and free the people from the most corrupt security apparatus on Earth. That will be one greater achievement accomplished. Cameroonians deserve free movment inside their country like citizens in other countries.

Paul Biya's speeches are meaningless to the extent that they are designed to impart a demagogic effect on the population. Strangely, a materially very wealthy country with resourceful people has been reduced to beggar status by unbelievable incompetence.

Sakwe

Reader1

Has Paul Biya made a speech? Certainly not. This speech is a product of speeches from world leaders that he has carefully or carelessly extracted and grafted paragraphs from and is trying to convince the Cameroonian people to believe them as pills to the sick nation. That is why he is not able to cite a single successful case in point of anything so far done in the country or at least in a single province. Let him stop buying speeches and face reality.

Reader1

Commentators,
Leave Dr. Agbormbai in peace. He has merely made a polite request which is but normal and possible, especially in this modern age of information technology. I suppose you should be attacking your poor English language ability and not the Dr.

Endale

"Camerounais camerounaise..."

dis Papa nova taya to de tok dis tin sotey 46 times including youth days?!

thank god for old age oh! na old age go save we from dis "principality" called Paul Biya!

epo-ndak

samuel

fello country men, i really wounder why you people waste the time to listen or even read the speech this guy Biya makes.listening to it once is already enough to know what he will say year in year out.this speech is mend for our little babies that are trying to understand how to talk.23 years same talk little done more poverty more corruption.mr Biya befor you make some of these talks take a look at the man facing the mirro.we say charity begines at home Mr Biya start fighting curruption by cleaning first your own house.
A good advice to my fello country men,don't spoill your new year eve listening to what this guy has to say every year for it will not help but only make you aware that hell still awaits use the comming yearand make you know the guy is still around.i stoped listening to this 19 years ago but its rather unfortunate that some of use have not yet realised that the man just have to rehase his speech every 31 december.
only God will remove use from the hands of this man.till death do use part and it seems that is the only way he is going to part with the presidency.
God bless us poor cameroonians.we shall survive

Fonjong Callistus

Paul Biya,s speech could not even convince a rat.

You need to have courage like Biya to make such a senseless speech. No wonder he calls himself "a courageous man".

It is a shame that this guy actually knows the problem his country is facing and for 23 years he decided to be indifferent.

Biya, you are just a laughing stock. I don,t want to add more because more and much had already been said. Nothing has changed.

But one thing is clear. You are not a king-kong. And you will never be one. If you want to learn from history, then its time for you to humble your proud and selfish self.

anya fred


Happy new year to all Cameroonians more expercially to you mr president Biya.Mr president,i think in your heart before you deliver your traditional end of speech to Cameroonians last night you knew you do not have anything good to offer to the people you are claiming to be their president.
Please my president, if i were you one of these days i will resign just like Amadu did a couple of years back.
Sir, you have been president of Cameroon for over 24 yrs. please give space to other cameroonains to try. or else you will one day face what happen in Togo. where is your friend Mobutu? be carefull, your day is coming not too far beleive me. Thanks

Dr A A Agbormbai

Ma Mary,

Thanks for your analysis and compliments. I have always believed that I can always make a change whenever I am involved in something, and I never expect compliments, gratitude, or reward for my actions.

I focus only on what I intend to achieve, regardless of other people's suspicions (and no amount of insults or negativity can ever change my focus).

One mistake I never make is become a part of anything that constrains my freedom of thought or that I criticise unless I have succeeded in transforming it. This is why I could never become part of SCNC or Biya's government, or whatever you may think of. I am an independent soul. Independence fuels my objectivity and my search for truth.

I have always determined my own path to my development and I always look forward, to sense and avoid danger. Right from a young age I have always disliked the way things are done in Cameroon (in the 80s I even sensed that Cameroon was leading into problems with its ostentatious and baseless spending), and I know that you cannot change things by becoming a part of it - it simply absorbs you.

This is why after my studies I didn't even think of returning to Cameroon but devoted myself to learning, with the hope of one day being able to make a real impact in Cameroon. This came when I discovered the Post and its amazing commentary facility, which allowed me to analyse issues and provide solutions. Many people have benefited by such analyses, as can be seen from the high standard of commentaries and analyses that one gets nowadays.

It is always a good thing to see commentators stand against those who veer towards tribalism, regionalism, or other destructive tendencies. Before, a tribalistic comment would simply lead to another tribalistic comment (in reply). And all these have been achieved in less than a year!

You say that I have superior knowledge. I disagree with you. I have superior analytical skills, superior learning ability, and superior open-mindedness. I have learned a lot from others on this weblog, just as I have contributed a lot to their developement. I will listen to anything that makes sense, regardless of who says it.

I really believe that Cameroon can be improved and while I sympathise with those who can be overcritical I know that such criticisms do not help the country or the leaders to improve things. That is why you will never see me criticise without providing solutions. Even if the SCNC gets its way and Cameroon ends up into two countries, I'd rather have this on positive, rather than negative, terms.

Finally, no one can succeed in shutting up my intellect. Many people have tried but have never succeeded. They simply get the truth from me all the time, whether it is in their favour or not. So Biya cannot shut my intellect by offering me a position. Besides, it has never been my intention to work out of field and being a Cameroonian government official is not currently attractive (except to those who value self-enrichment at the expense of others). If I am returning to Cameroon, it would be more likely to pursue my own private objectives.

tita espoir

guys, we got no chose now than to help the govt of our country to reach its goals.after all biya would not run the country for ever.lets be watch-dogs and criticise constructively to help build our beloved country,rather than cause confusion with our negetive artitudes.the comments or suggestions by the contributors above especially Che Mofor and Ricardo is an example of mind-sets that are out to see our country move forward rather than sitting there and throwing insults.guys lets play a part in helping make cameroon a better place for all who live in it.some people are accusing the president of being a coward not to mention the southern cameroon agenda.guys the truth is our country got better things to focus on rather than wasting time on slogans.what we need now from our president is accountability on his plan of action for this year by 2007.lets be watch-dogs.journalist,opposition parties,religious and non-governmental organisations,including ordinary citizens,lets help make our country a better place to live in.no body is to old to change.i respect biya for acknowleging the sufferings of cameroonians.lets give the old crook a chance.people do change.atleast his days are numbered.maybe his trying very hard to rectify things so that history books would not be so creul on him.i strongly believe that we should be patient.long live the fight against bad governance,love live our peacefull motherland Cameroon.

tita espoir

guys, we got no chose now than to help the govt of our country to reach its goals.after all biya would not run the country for ever.lets be watch-dogs and criticise constructively to help build our beloved country,rather than cause confusion with our negetive artitudes.the comments or suggestions by the contributors above especially Che Mofor and Ricardo is an example of mind-sets that are out to see our country move forward rather than sitting there and throwing insults.guys lets play a part in helping make cameroon a better place for all who live in it.some people are accusing the president of being a coward not to mention the southern cameroon agenda.guys the truth is our country got better things to focus on rather than wasting time on slogans.what we need now from our president is accountability on his plan of action for this year by 2007.lets be watch-dogs.journalist,opposition parties,religious and non-governmental organisations,including ordinary citizens,lets help make our country a better place to live in.no body is to old to change.i respect biya for acknowleging the sufferings of cameroonians.lets give the old crook a chance.people do change.atleast his days are numbered.maybe his trying very hard to rectify things so that history books would not be so creul on him.i strongly believe that we should be patient.long live the fight against bad governance,love live our peacefull motherland Cameroon.

samuel

mr Tita espoir.one quetion.for how long will you keep being a watch dog?23 years have passed well u can keep watching for another 23 years.well in such situation there are 2 groups of people.those who do the fighting and those who stay and watch which you prove to be a watching type.happy new year

Dr A A Agbormbai

I must say that these revelations about Biya and the wife crippling the Cameroon Bank by emptying its coffers is quite shocking! I think Biya must do something to redress this situation.

van

BIYA SON OF THE GUN,IT WAS BETTER U GAVE US ONE BOTTLE OF WHITE STUFF THAN TO REPEAT THE STORY LIKE NIGERIAN MOVY ACTORS.THEY SAY THE SAME THING IN DIFERENT WAYS LIKE U.U SEAMS A GOOD ACTOR BUT PRESIDENT,SORRY.WE HAVE HAERD AND SO.THIEF MAN.U WILL SOON DIE,NO U SHOULD EVEN LIVE LONG AND SEE WHAT CAMEROON WILL BE.

NjifenztB.D.(U.K)

The Head of State's speech is just an elaborate repetation of the same annual messages in different words.
It is hoped that a change of leadership would change many things for the better
I am not convinced we shall achieve any significant progress this year.Our president's main goal is surely to beat Late Iyadema's record in Togo as the longest serving President.He failed to include this in his speech.
I will soon give up! Mr.President.

Jean Mark Akono

Everyone has a right to his/her opinion.
I disagree with the SCNC in terms of the fact they have choosen Zero option. But, I agree that the Anglophone Community has been greatly marginalize in our country. I used to equate the anglophone problem to that of lack of development which is equally felt by most regions in Cameroon. After reading thepost and closely re-reading the history of country from 1919 to 72, I realized that the anglophone complain is legitimate.
"In Response to the Yang Gang" is another piece of document that is very enriching. A federal system of government will make our country a better place. Biya option of a policed decentralization with the maintenance of government delegates is a farce.He has just re-cycled/polished the unitary system that has destroyed our country.

Jean Mark Akono

MR Biya is an expert in making good speeches. WE need actions not only lovely speeches.
Sacking Ondo Ndong for example should be followed by presecution. Biya did not need to replace him with another Southerner. Someone from the Adamawa or the North West can still do the job.

Muaahoo

Masso oh.I se-eh?Biya never tire remix.E don remix di song for long soté paysans them no fit enjoy.
Popol,we don tire remix.Play new song.
Happy New Year 4 all ma bro them

wowo man

Na really remix muaahoo.the better na different song.We go die for this ctry-oh.Popol na popoh BAD MAN.

Jean Mark Akono

I wish everyone on this fourm a prosperous New Year

Andre Fokam

Guys, there is something new in this year speech....Popaul was actually standing througout.... (go to www.cameroon-info.net to watch the video). like to say he is growing younger. sorry for some of us who now rely on age to take him down.
i was actually happy about what he said (as usual). so i expect that very soon, the commision he created to investigate financial fraud will call him and his band to explain the source of their wealth and sanctions taken. i also expect to see more roads constructed, jobs created,etc.... like i have hoped every year for the past x years.

Andre Fokam

Neba Funiba

Comment on Comments!

We should be very carefull not to make this website a forum for self-appraisal and constant self-praising. Different individuals are superior and have exceptional analytic skills in their various fields of specialization; therefore, responding to website stories does not make one an expert in other fields beyond their academic area of specialization. Most of the responses to the stories on this website may never be used for any sound policy analysis because such responses are NOT based on objective truth but on subjective opinions. Society is NEVER analyzed based on personal opinions (and this is not my opinion). In the social sciences, one cannot answer the famous question on epistemology "How do you know what you know?" by expressing personal opinions. Ipso facto, except in cases where one is particularly correcting a write-up that someone posted on this website, no one should be boasting of having made people to change the way they have been writing here--that's an exaggeration. At the macro-level, to change Cameroon one will have to provide objective arguments, and facts (NOT OPINIONS) to foreign donors that put pressure on the despot in Cameroon; organizations and countries that can close their wallets. Ma Mary is doing a fine job by including "inserts" in her story such as the US Congressional Resolution "HR 503" that condemns the government of Cameroon for the treatment of Pa Fossung. Ma Mary thanks to your insert on HR 503--it is being used together with some other prima facie evidence of the extent of tyranny in Cameroon, to make a case at the IMF by a group of concerned individuals who surprisingly are non-Cameroonians. Thanks to the contributor who posted Dr. John Ngu Foncha's letter of resignation from CPDM. The wordings of that letter are powerful and say a lot.

philip ndum

Wishing you all a very happy and prosperous new year. It has been very enlightening reading from this forum and experiencing the thoughts and expressions of other Cameroonians. Most of us in this forum agree that the BIYA government does not have the will or determination to effect meaningful reform in one of the most corrupt nations on earth. We also agree that the Biya government is to blame for the moral and economic crises in Cameroon today.
What can we do as Cameroonians in the diaspora to help resolve some of these issues and contributing in a meaningful way.
We must be able to organize ourselves irrespective of our political affiliations
into a pressure group that can have enough financial resources to sponsor progressive candidates in political elections. We can facilitate the meeting of political and pressure groups to find a common ground to come together and fight the common enemy. Let us not underestimate our strenght and potential political power. Any comments?

Ma Mary

Computers can be programmed to do consistent and thorough analyses of data. The challenge ends up being the quality of the data. As the computer gurus would say, rubbish in, rubbish out. In the case of a political, economic, historical constructs and continua such as the Cameroons, ignorance of contexts for any reason, be it laziness, lack of time or sheer pig headedness results in irrelevant or wrong analyses and recommendations.

As you foray from gas physics into social engineering a small dose of humility would be in order. It is extremely difficult as a scientist to challenge or extend established theories about gas behaviours without understanding the status quo. That would be arrogant and presumptious, and even and especially in academia, you are liable to being slapped down and rejected until you do the appropriate background review. Why do you assume that things are different in this area.

Finally, please give us a break about this superiority thing. Who are you kidding? Make your point, but do not pretend to be above the fray, some kind of dissinterested superior arbiter. Those who actually get their hands dirty doing something are worth a lot more attention. When someone is in trouble, they respect a lawyer who can get them out of trouble ove the one who talks legal theory ad nauseum.

Hope New Year takes us along further.

MM

Ma Mary

To avoid misunderstanding, the above was a response to Dr A Agbormbai's response.

Neba Funiba, thank you for the observation that the little links here and there are being noted by people who actually do things. In case people missed what you are referring to, here it is again:


109THCONGRESS
1STSESSION
H. RES. 503
Condemning the actions taken by the Government of Cameroon against Henry
Fossung and others, and for other purposes.

FULL TEXT

The problem with the Riccardos is that they never present anything along similar lines to refute what we are saying. They just use slogans and we will not shrink from trading insults with them and will bury them under vituperatives if that is where they want to go. This is not their father's Anglofool. They are dealing with a different animal altogether.

Ma Mary

Celestine Nke Fosung

Greetings to you all for your contribution. We can always state what we think without attacking others opinion. Given the opportunity to debate openly in government what path the country should take in its quest for growth, a majority of us in this forum will take to punching each other. This is very evident reading some of your reactions. Regrettably, our government has killed all sectors in the country. I doubt strongly, given the opportunity Cameroonians of today will be able to make a strong impact. It is even very difficult for us to appreciate what makes sense from what others post. Given that we can disagree on sevral issues, it doesn't show maturity and politeness by being so arrogant. Yes, there is an anglophone problem in the country, corruption is a Cameroonian problem we must all address. The economic problem in Cameroon is faced by us all, though the minority is hardest hit. Democracy and development is still to be born in the country, though the government wants us think otherwise. Whoever thinks the Cameroons should be divided is their opinion, and must try to achieve this using whatever means. I am from South West province, but i think my destiny and that of my Children is in a one and strong Cameroon. But i will not castigate and deride my friend from the North West from thinking otherwise. Rather i will try to convince him why i think our common future can be better in a one Cameroon. This is just one aspect we may consider. We may differ strongly in What kind of education system is best for the country, what kind of political system is best for the country, and were roads, hospitals should be built, without thibking our idea is supreme. We must be ready to accept and make concessions when decisions are concerned.
I have discussed political issues with Cameroonians of varied backgrounds, more educated than i am, having more certificates, old and young, i mean Dr's, and Prof's. You may be surprised to know that most of them don't know exactly how the situation back home has evolved. It is through the Internet that most of them are coming to understand the real picture back home. Most of us who left the country recently, and have weathered the storms know to some extent what obtains in Cameroon. Recentlty, i was involved with a Doctor of Journalism in USA on the recent appointments in government, and strike action in the University. I was strongly opposed to his owb view, and likewise he was opposed to mind. Despite being my senior in age, and academics, i think i didn't have to agree with his point because, i follow regularly the events in Cameroon. Interestingly, my senior friend was so bitter, and refused to shake my outstretched hands when it was time for me to leave. This is high political and opinion intolerance which i am talking about. Now, this was just a forum between four people. How do you expect this friend to react in government given the chance to make or state opinions which may differ from others. We have a long way to go, we have got to change our reasoning and stop thinking we are more intelligeble than than the others. We must cultivate the habit of tolerance and independent reasoning, something our education system failed to impact in us. We have read and crammed a lot of concepts and theories in our school system without knowing what they mean in real life. It is now on us as individuals to read and strenghten our individual abilities, to bring our the little Thomas Jefferson in us which i figure is in each of our system. Despite the seeming hopelessnes in the presidents speech, the wind of each is blowing. I see this from the hot tempered debates in this forum.
Our diversity is a strong force and we can together make it.

Regards to you all for the contributions and a prosperous new year.

felix

Once again I have come into this forum to meet Same people with same myopic ideas: MM ,Neba Funiba and the Rest.
Lets try to focus on the President.Welther his speech is a repetition or not, the good alternative I have got out of it is from AAg.MM may credit AAg as Big brain and then back away from it,but his contribution in this forum is distinct.
I will like to focus on the economy,Good politics do not always makes Good economy take the case of USA vs CHINA or is Bad politics justified(CUBA)or Russia.By Bad I mean somesort of totalitarian system of Government.This have never driven hopes out the system especially to the White Man.With USA at the Threshold of economic danger they are working very hard to turnaround the situation.
I have said in this forum times and again that Government doesnot create and add values.The people in every society do(GDP).The problem with Africans and most especially Cameroonians is that they belief and always expect manners from their governments.Such manners are Bibilical history and no more.Can the President Do the engineering, plants the crops,build the dams,reseach on every projects??
What have you done or are you thinking to do to change your country.Do you need to be a president to set moral standards, build instutition in your society, do you even need be a Dr holder???.
My Brother and sister in this forum asked yourself what you have done or will do to help your country before pointing fingers at Mr Biya.

Andre Fokam

Ma Mary.
I appreciate the effort you make by sending us to web link to support your points. However I think you are bias in your selection of article (like in your interpretation of our History). Here are other positive press releases on Cameroon by the US state department that you certainly saw but willingly chose to ignore.

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51454.htm on religion freedom in Cameroon

http://usinfo.state.gov/af/Archive/2005/Nov/08-356559.html on Cameroon going in the right direction. here is an exert of the article
“In an interview with the Washington File on October 28, Yamamoto reported that Cameroon is relatively stable, has a well-functioning government, had fairly good elections and is trying to do a lot of things positively. Consequently, he said, if he were to send a message to all of Africa, it would be that the United States commends Cameroon for its "dramatic improvement" and urges other countries to follow suit.”

You see that it is not that we ignore the facts; we just disregard those that are blatantly biased. If you want an honest debate based on facts, begin by being objective in your research.

Andre Fokam

dango tumma

akono, biyas cousin, you dont even know who anglophones are, nor what their history is.
what can you agree or disagree about anglophones?
just shut up and thief the money in the coffers as your uncle. after all les anglos
son les enemies de la maison, les biafras.

Oben

ONLY A REVOLUTIONARY IS GOING TO MAKE CAMEROON A BETTER COUNTRY.

dango tumma

ANDREW POKAAM
WHY DO YOU KEEP RESPONDING IN THIS SOUTHERN
CAMEROONS FORUM, JUST GET LOST. FOR YOUR TWO
YOURS IN THE STATES?
YOU AINT ANYTHING. PLUS YOUR ARE ONLY A CHILD OF 27 YEARS OLD. BASTARDS.

dango tumma

brothers, LETS just pray as the cheif has
said. that 2006 should be the year we
total regain our statehood again, and we must learn once for forver, never to trust any foreigner, especially these frogs. for once bitten,twice shy.
ask for the AKONO JOHN MARK GUY. TO HELL WITH YOU, WHO CARES WHETHER YOU LIKE SCNC OR NOT, YOU FROGS HATE US, AND WE KNOW THATS WHY WE ARE LIBERATED FROM THE UNION.
AND WE JUST WISH YOU GUYS LIVE PEACEFULLY WITH YOUR SELVES. AND NOT INTRUDING IN OUR FORUM,

dango tumma

these frogs felix and others got no clue what the congress of us is all about.
just wait and you will see, only think is
people like andrew pokaam ,ricardo and felix, would never be welcome in the new southern cameroons, cause your intentions aint noble. you must be track and shut b/4 you start causing trouble.

Grandstevo

Bro/sis for good will i salut. Happy New year 2006. Mr Biya, i warned you not to make this speech. You did the remix as usual. Biya we all paysans know what is call 419. You di take paysan them for giro. I have seen you once at Abano Terme--Padua(ITALY) at hotel venezia doing mud therapy to becaome young. I know most of your hide out in Europe, you are not free, i recorded your end of year speech and i will record.that of next year. Man things them don tight you for neck. Just give up and take off befor i rough. I sorry for your Beti brothers them. me personally i go quack your back foot. LADRO

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VADEAS

WE KNOW ONEDAY WE SHALL CONGUER.SCNC MUST BE FREE LIKE OR NOT.I AM IN JAPAN I WE HAVE CONSOLIDATED THE POSSITION OF SCNC.GOD BLESS S.CAMEROON.

Kiki a Hongkong

I love the speech its a sign of hope..

Dr A A Agbormbai

Celestine Nke Fossung,

I like your commentary very much, especially this aspect:

"We have read and crammed a lot of concepts and theories in our school system without knowing what they mean in real life."

This comment sums up very much what happens in university environments, especially in the so-called top universities in the world. University doctors and professors seem to be more concerned with the academic elegance of concepts rather than in their use in solving real world problems.

Go to the academic conferences and you will see what I mean. People struggle with trivial problems that are far removed from real life, and they provide highly idealistic and unpragmatic solutions that have no real world significance. This scenario is indicative of the lack of practical common sense in the academic circles. As a PhD student, I remember querying my supervisor why this was the case. He responded that people were doing this for their promotion, and that no one really understood what was going on.

When consulted by practitioners for advice, academics tend to babble in complexity and technical jargon without really solving anything. No wonder these practititioners complain and tend to ignore advice, to rely on their own experience.

Many practitioners in business and politics tend to say that many academics are far removed from reality . You can even see this in this forum, with commentators like Neba Funiba, who keep advocating the scientific analytic method in a public forum that has a popular audience (as though it were a journal).

People like Neba are the type that Biya's government would have been encountering in Cameroon - when asked a simple question they would wallow in academic complexity and provide little in response. No doubt Biya and his government hated intellectuals and transformed the country into mediocrity.

There is a fundamental missing element in the academic system that is responsible for the communication problems when dealing with simpler-minded practitioners (such as business people and politicians). This relates to the nature of understanding.

My experience tells me that there are three fundamental levels: memorising (as you've noted above), academic understanding, and insightful understanding. Memorising is the shallowest and least creative level of understanding. It involves cramming and regurgitating textbook material without any flexibity of mind or without commonn sense.

Academic understanding is deeper than memorising, but one's creativity is limited only within academic circles (formulation of academic theories, conduct of experiments, and the publication of research papers). Academic understanding is pervasive within academic environments and is the level generally attained by doctors, professors, and students.

However, an academic level of understanding tends to create narrow-mindedness, over-specialisation, and idiotic arrogance. I believe it is such sysmptoms that you experienced when debating with the 'learned gentleman'.

To bridge the gap between academics and the real world (of the public and practitioners) you need to go the distance to the most profound level of understanding. This is insightful understanding. It is the most complete form of understanding and is the level of understanding that contributes most to nation building.

It has popular, as well as the practitioner's, support because it deals with real issues. A guy or dame who has insightful understanding of his field is knowledgeable not only of his areas of specialisation but of relating fields, to appreciate how they impact on his areas of specialisation. Such a guy or dame can deal with the small things as well as the big issues. He or she can contribute effectively and at the right level to academic research (journals) and to popular debate (newspapers).

You can see that a guy like Neba Funiba who persistently struggles to contribute effectively at the level of this forum, is simply exhibiting the symptoms of having attained only an academic level of understanding of his field. Fortunately for him, he is not the only one - this is a common problem in academic circles (one that has been recognised by practitioners and that needs urgent addressing).

Dr A A Agbormbai

Andre Fokam,

Thanks for correcting those who prefer to mislead us by presenting a slanted picture of the country.

Southern Cameroonian

‘We are not annexationists’

25. In 1959 some perceptive minds in the Trusteeship Council expressed concerns that after
attaining independence on 1 January 1960 Republique du Cameroun could try to annex the
Southern Cameroons. The Premier of French Cameroun, Mr. Ahidjo, denied any such intention or
the possibility of any such action on the part of independent Republique du Cameroun. At the
849th meeting of the Fourth Committee of the UN, Mr. Ahidjo took the floor and gave the UN the
solemn assurance that Republique du Cameroun is not annexationist. He declared: “We are not
annexationists. ... If our brothers of the British zone wish to unite with independent Cameroun,
we are ready to discuss the matter with them, but we will do so on a footing of equality.”

26. In June 1960 he told the ‘Agence Presse Camerounaise’: “I have said and repeated, in the
name of the Government [of Republique du Cameroun], that we do not have any annexationist
design.”

27. In July the same year he again reassured the international community through the same
press: “For us, there can be no question of annexation of the Southern Cameroons. We have
envisaged a flexible form of union, a federal form.”

28. Later events were to show that he took the UN, the international community and the
Southern Cameroons for a ride.

Check out the rest of the paper

neba funiba

Agbormbai:

You make me laugh. It is from this website that you are trying to know what you know about society and it may not happen. For, example, if it is from this website and only for the past two days that you just learnt from a posting how Cameroon Bank became defunct then I rest my case. All what you do is constantly pat yourself on the back and expose your ignorance of how society is analyzed. Go back to one of your wrtings in which you blamed someone for writing against the Bretton Woods Agreement. You do not even know that the terms of the Bretton Woods Agreement were initially tossed by Richard Nixon in 1979, and that Ex-World Bank President Joseph Stiglitz has actually become very critical of IMF/World agreements. You do not even know that the current framework on which the IMF/World Bank operates is based on what is referred to as the Washington Consensus--grounded in neoclassical economics. I can cite about six to seven items from your naiive write-ups which are evidence that your knowledge of the global political economy is so limited even though you claim the contrary. To be honest, when it comes to asking for expert advice on the sociopolitical and economic milieu in Cameroon, your name will not be on the list of a 1000; and certainly Cameroonian experts in the US will be contacted first because those who are professionally engaged stand the test of rigid critique. I will not even go to self-appraisal the way you do; someday, somebody who knows me and knows where I work will tell you. For your information, before boasting that what you do would help Cameroon and Africa, as you claimed in one of your write-ups, try to concentrate your effort on a smaller scale--may be your neighborhood in Mamfe so that the impact will be more realistic. You are suffering from delusions of grandeur.

neba funiba

Agbormbai:

You make me laugh. It is from this website that you are trying to know what you know about society and it may not happen. For, example, if it is from this website and only for the past two days that you just learnt from a posting how Cameroon Bank became defunct then I rest my case. All what you do is constantly pat yourself on the back and expose your ignorance of how society is analyzed. Go back to one of your wrtings in which you blamed someone for writing against the Bretton Woods Agreement. You do not even know that the terms of the Bretton Woods Agreement were initially tossed by Richard Nixon in 1979, and that Ex-World Bank President Joseph Stiglitz has actually become very critical of IMF/World agreements. You do not even know that the current framework on which the IMF/World Bank operates is based on what is referred to as the Washington Consensus--grounded in neoclassical economics. I can cite about six to seven items from your naiive write-ups which are evidence that your knowledge of the global political economy is so limited even though you claim the contrary. To be honest, when it comes to asking for expert advice on the sociopolitical and economic milieu in Cameroon, your name will not be on the list of a 1000; and certainly Cameroonian experts in the US will be contacted first because those who are professionally engaged stand the test of rigid critique. I will not even go to self-appraisal the way you do; someday, somebody who knows me and knows where I work will tell you. For your information, before boasting that what you do would help Cameroon and Africa, as you claimed in one of your write-ups, try to concentrate your effort on a smaller scale--may be your neighborhood in Mamfe so that the impact will be more realistic. You are suffering from delusions of grandeur.

felix

neba funiba,
I thought the year passed with its tribal sentiments.At the dawn of the New year you have come up with it.I am ready to face this issue at all times.
"try to concentrate your effort on a smaller scale--may be your neighborhood in Mamfe so that the impact will be more realistic".This sounds very tribalitics.How and why should he limits his knowledge in Mamfe.??

dango tumma,
I am not afraid to die for what I belief.If you want me I will give you details of where I am.My picture, complete date of Birth,place of Birth ,residence etc.
I stand for Unity.
We can debate on all what we want but no threat can stop me from my belief, not even in your dream SC World.
Kindly click on my name and you get my e-mail and I will forward to you the rest of the details.

tita espoir

my dear fanatics of the scnc ideologies,havent u so far learned something from the contribution from both english and french specking cameroonians with regards to biya address to the nation speech,if u havent, i will help u open u eyes.the problem that we are facing in cameroon is the problem of bad governance by biyas regime and not the union.do u get that.help us move forward,thinking and focusing on actions that would help resque this our beloved country from the mess we find our selves in.biyas regime should be blamed.but the time and age has come for change.we better unite and fight this regime in a civilised manner so that we can see positive reforms in our motherland making it a better place for our children and grandchildren.stop distracting us with all this u good for nothing slogans in the name of terretorial independence.this is insignificant.some times i am of a strong opinion that u guys have been bribed by the government to diavert our attension.please help us be focused here.ma mary, i read from one of u comments that u make alot of money,i assume u are a business woman,so tell me,if u see a business opportunity in say ,douala which u claim is not part of u territory and u hate so much,would u not carry that venture so as to help create jobs for cameroonians.would u not try to expliot that opportunity?or do u want to tell us that we english speecking cameroonians should stop thinking of ways to expliot the enormous business opportunities in our countries big cities because u claim we dont belong together.nonsense.cameroon would and is being united than ever.stop this u obsession and let us liberate our country from bad governance and other ills.dont tell me about history.i will always challenge u and all this other fanatics by telling u we as cameroonians would stand together to help eradicate this ills inflicted in our society by biyas regime.join the fight.even our worst enemy,biya if he truly means business we will support him for the sake of our beloved country.once again we dont need seperation.we are one.forget about this u history of english and french.lets face reality.instead of giving our people unrealistic promises of a better life under u dream kingdom,lets use our energy to fight for attainable goals.we are patient people,our dreamland is near.bonne anne pour tous les camerounaise.i dont really care which language i use, all i know is that am a proud cameroonian.long live the struggle for a better cameroon,long live our motherland.

tita espoir

my dear fanatics of the scnc ideologies,havent u so far learned something from the contribution from both english and french specking cameroonians with regards to biya address to the nation speech,if u havent, i will help u open u eyes.the problem that we are facing in cameroon is the problem of bad governance by biyas regime and not the union.do u get that.help us move forward,thinking and focusing on actions that would help resque this our beloved country from the mess we find our selves in.biyas regime should be blamed.but the time and age has come for change.we better unite and fight this regime in a civilised manner so that we can see positive reforms in our motherland making it a better place for our children and grandchildren.stop distracting us with all this u good for nothing slogans in the name of terretorial independence.this is insignificant.some times i am of a strong opinion that u guys have been bribed by the government to diavert our attension.please help us be focused here.ma mary, i read from one of u comments that u make alot of money,i assume u are a business woman,so tell me,if u see a business opportunity in say ,douala which u claim is not part of u territory and u hate so much,would u not carry that venture so as to help create jobs for cameroonians.would u not try to expliot that opportunity?or do u want to tell us that we english speecking cameroonians should stop thinking of ways to expliot the enormous business opportunities in our countries big cities because u claim we dont belong together.nonsense.cameroon would and is being united than ever.stop this u obsession and let us liberate our country from bad governance and other ills.dont tell me about history.i will always challenge u and all this other fanatics by telling u we as cameroonians would stand together to help eradicate this ills inflicted in our society by biyas regime.join the fight.even our worst enemy,biya if he truly means business we will support him for the sake of our beloved country.once again we dont need seperation.we are one.forget about this u history of english and french.lets face reality.instead of giving our people unrealistic promises of a better life under u dream kingdom,lets use our energy to fight for attainable goals.we are patient people,our dreamland is near.bonne anne pour tous les camerounaise.i dont really care which language i use, all i know is that am a proud cameroonian.long live the struggle for a better cameroon,long live our motherland.

Neba Funiba

Felix:

There is nothing tribalistic about what I wrote. Whose house will you want to clean? Yours or someone's? Charity begins at home isn't it?. There is a concept in planning known as impact analysis--the larger the surface area, the smaller the impact. I rather give 1000frs to the primary school where I graduated from in my village in Bafut than try to impress people and give it to all primary schools in Bafut. Instead of trying to use "gas physics" (as MM clearly states) to help Cameroon and Africa (sorrowfully unrealistic), do that to help a smaller locality--logical. Hey, I will take it if he wants to improve my neighborhood in Bafut whatever it is that he is doing.

Moni4hand

tif man na who? arata....

Ma Mary

Desespoir Tita: You are sorely mistaken my tadpole friend. The process of destroying the now failed union preceded Biya's ascension. It started from the day Southern Cameroons went into a union with an entity that was only independent in name, controlled by Franceafrique. Southern Cameroons as a UN trust Territory enjoyed more freedom than the Independent Republique du Cameroun. You do not even understand your country, my dear amphibian. Southern Cameroons is a distraction for you.

There is only one Camerounese commenting here who deserves our respect. It is Janvier. His country does not deserve him. Become a Southern Cameroonian, Janvier. The rest ignorant, vacuous. The problem is that Janvier is supporting the Union that could have been.
Ma Mary

NjifenztB.D.(U.K)

Dear readers of this page,permit me say that i have high respect for all who curse and spit uncouth language to our president.This is what he ultimately deserves.As a matter of fact, he has given a deaf ear to all our needs.2006 i predict will be a year of absolute disaster for us, if real change does not ensue.Listening is the key.This Govt should listen to advice and tell the Cameroonian people in all honesty what prevents them from applying what they preach.
The speech is highly deceptive and repetitive.Our eyes are focused on you Mr.Pesident, and our loving Country.Long live Paul Biya to see real change when a new leader resurfaces.

Ma Mary

Desespoir Tita: You are sorely mistaken my tadpole friend. The process of destroying the now failed union preceded Biya's ascension. It started from the day Southern Cameroons went into a union with an entity that was only independent in name, controlled by Franceafrique. Southern Cameroons as a UN trust Territory enjoyed more freedom than the Independent Republique du Cameroun. You do not even understand your country, my dear amphibian. Southern Cameroons is a distraction for you.

There is only one Camerounese commenting here who deserves our respect. It is Janvier. His country does not deserve him. Become a Southern Cameroonian, Janvier. The rest ignorant, vacuous. The problem is that Janvier is supporting the Union that could have been.
Ma Mary

Neba Fuh

2006 has just highlighted. I happenned to have embraced the New Year in Cameroon. I followed up commenters on this forum from home. Many think only those in the diaspora read and contribute in this forum. Lies!!! Some commenters live the reality and comment from base(home), while others rely on 'tailored' reports and releases, sometimes aimed distorting the real situation.
The simple damn truth is that the country is in a mess!!! Misery is Cameroon's other name. Dilapidated roads, corrupt officials, unconstructed schools without teachers, miserable civil servants, desperate farmers,embezzlement, tribalism, nepotism etc. This is the reality back home-not from internet reports or releases intended to water the thirst of their masters' caprices.

In a situation like this, I sympathise with any Cameroonian who sprays his emotions on his reactions to the realities back home. If this emotion spills intellectual anger, let it be so. And he who dreads the heat should leave the kitchen. The situation at home now is no child's play. So Children or the chicken-hearted should quit. Afterall,it was well thought out, or else the providers of this forum should have edited any comment that will anger Mr A or Dr B or Eng B or Farmer C.

It's been 23years of poor management, and yet, they say we should give him time???? I have always wondered why one of the architects of democracy limited their presidential term of office to 8years??
And now I worry why progressives living there, find 23years, not enough time for an oligarch to be assessed, dumped, judged and sentenced?? What are they afraid of??
At a stage like this in a nation,where all real fora for dialogue have failed, emotions can override reasoning, and believe me, no great revolution came about without a high degree of emotions from the true custodians of power-the citizens.Remember, A nation cannot blame a sergent when a war is lost;the General is accountable. Cameroon needs a revolution. Indeed, it is a Wrecked Roon!

Wrecked Roon
Ravaged reckless quisling- Captain of Roon,
Craved in carnal quest for cannabis,
Drowned by the exigent thirst for rum,
Full of faulty overload of French cuisine,
As Mademoiselles toy with your extortion key.

Flee not! Gentle silly sailors of Roon;
For Wouri's shallow shores prevent your sinking dive,
So, Grace can see from Fako's top that Roon lives on,
Clothed in sandy maroon like a beehive.

Arise silly sailors!
Awake, compatriots of Roon!
Why the wreck without a storm?
Of course, Mother Africa knows no ice blocks.

Surely, Captain Yabi hid the compass,
And here we are, sitting on our grey matters;
Doubting who lives in the opium joint-Captain Yabi or us

Neba Fuh

Celestine Nke Fosung

Dear Mr Fuh,

Thank you for all your contributions. Yes, the state of affairs in Cameroon is despicable. Emotions run high, and i agree we need a revolution. It would be nice if you explain what kind of revolution we need. I strongly oppose the violent kind of revolution that is raging in the minds of some of us. I think, by constantly sensitizing the youths through communication, we may all come to realise we have to contribute in the progress in Cameroon. I believe our contribution can come from open mindedness, frank and honest talk, avoiding petit cheating in the quarters, politeness and all the other vices you may think of. This will be a long process, but i believe the Cameroonian mind needs fundamentral change before we embarg on large and grand goals of throwing out the system. For i truely believe our minds, i mean those of the youths are not ready to work and toil for the country. Lots of us believe in the old revolutionary systems of toppling governments. This does not work today. If it does, the price certainly outweighs the benefits. Look at the situation in Rwanda, Congo, Ivory coast, Liberia, Sierra leone etc. Once a government is replaced, the the new one is no better. Take the case of Kibaki in Kenya. The kenyans are no better socioeconomically nor politically today than in the Arab Moi years. We must change ourselves comletely before thinking to take change the old guards. For i truely believe, we the youths are not ready for that change. We claim to be patriotic, but this doesn't give any of us the ability to make wise and better decisions. The solutions which i read in this forum, which most claim will solve Cameroons eternal woes are just solutions to solve basic algebra. We must have the firm believe to start at the lower rungs in government, while gradually working our way up. Cameroon will i submit have the change in needs if Cameroonians first of all change themselves. This change in personality, can and will only have a positive impact in the next 50+ years, for i see no new government that will immediately provide immediate solutions. Our problems are in their zillions, and therefore let us go back to the root cause which i think is the Cameroonian reasoning which helped bring this present monarchy to power. We will have to exercise tremendous patience and tolerance with any new government, because no matter how hard they fight, we will certainly not see what they have done. If this were to be the case, then frustration, anger, and disillusionment may lead us into i am afraid a RWANDAN kind situation. Hope the gods don't go to sleep.

Andre Fokam

thank you Celestine Nke Fosung
that was very wise, inspiring and honest above all. it is nice to know that there a some cameroonians like you out there who are still realistic and want to build the country on strong foundations. anger, bitterness, violence only bring anger, bitterness and violence plus regrets. we are all accusing others and making them responsible for our trouble without looking within us if we are any differents. some people in this forum are so violent with their words that you don't want to think of what they will do if they had the meakiest power. some people cannot run their own self and they want to run countries. at time i agree with the proverb that says: "every nation deserve his leader" our leader today is just our reflection.
let us all cameroonian fight real enemy in us which is within us and among us. we all know them.

Andre Fokam

mukete

This New Year message is just made up of pious wishes and empty promises from a man who has taken Cameroon fifty years backward. It is not surprising that this frustrated doctor from M'vomeka should begin his message by reminding Cameroonians of the 10-year stealing exercise he is involved in. It is just as if he is telling Cameroonians that, "You have seen nothing yet."

I look forward to that day when Cameroonians and the able readers of The Post Online would join hands, energy and hearts to force this shameless thief into taking refuge inside Jacque Chirac's toilet. A man who has lost his biologic shame glands can not be wishing Cameroonians well. In his heart, he is actuaclly making a mockery of the poor!

The majority of Cameroon would want Paul Biya to be forced out of office by all means. I am not an avocate of war, but if war should bring about the salvation of Cameroon, then may it be so. If South Africans can use it to bring "salvation" to their country, then what is wrong in bringing about the "disapperance" of a few people who have conspired with France to auction our country? Afterall, even the Almighty God had to stand beside his people in times of war.

As we enter the year 2006, it is not for me to tell Cameroonians on how they should kick Biya out of office. By doing this, I might be minimizing their great abilities. But if Cameroonians should fail, it will be a failure of heart and spirit. The future will never pity us if we continue to allow a group of confusionists rule us.

Mukete sends readers of The Post the real New Year wishes they deserve. Peace, love, unity and progress be with you all. And also with the suffering mass here in Cameroon.

I am convinced the Almight God will hear my prayer to remove his beloved country from the hands of unrepentant leaders. And the real learder - visible or invisible - will come one day. Amen.


MUKETE
(Many are called, but only a few will actually enter the Kingdom of God. Amen. Seek ye the Kingdom of God first, and all be added onto you. Amen)

tita espoir

mama mary, forget about all this u historical facts.all am saying is that u should know u priorities.face reality.i admire the way u keep running away from reality.answer pertinent,simple questions at hand,no,u keep refering to history.by the way if u claim that u have been struggling for the so called "authentic stuggle for the territorial independence of sc" then what has been stopping u from succeeding in forming this kingdom of yours.all u want to do is cause confusion.mama,when would u grow up?u dont show any maturity in the way u commuicate.or are the insults part of u strategy to intimidate us to fall for this u ideas.sorry mem,we realised that u are a group of people who dont want to see our country prosper.out to cause confusion and anarchy.for the sake of our motherland,we will stop at nothing to eliminate people with ideas like yours out of our society.for the sake of peace and unity.mama its time for u and u group to change and come joint us lets make this our country a better place for all who live in it.take it as a newyear resolution,maybe that would help u change u artitude also. change for good. long live the struggle to make cameroon a better place for all who live in.

james Inoni

All What Biya said is undoubtably the the naked truth about Cameroon. We have all those potentials and deserve the right to be optimistic, but will people like him let is enjoy this God given previlege of ours?when Biya speaks u can hear an Americanised cameroonian president, it's so disheartening that Biya is so concerned abt achieving the completion point of the HIPIC funds which is a scam than our numerous domestic problems, He speaks with such naivity that makes me doubt how for all this while he been president he still does not understand our poltics of today. Biya's speech of this year was a declaration to us that 'Yes my compatriots am an american agent employed to keep u poor, distabilised, uneducated and afraid so that america and its allies will dumping their excess produce to us'
for people who like reading I'll like u to read Noam Chomsky"s book. "what Uncle sam really Wants" then look at the IMF, look at the World Bank, and Biya. Then U'll be able to see Biya in his true self an american (Western) pupet.
Petitpresident

Neba Fuh

Mr Fossung, Let me make this clear, the kind of revolution Cameroon needs, and can be orchestrated by Cameroonians is revolution from the heart. It can breed any virtue or vice. But one thing I am sure about is that, the course of revolution is not known until it has come to pass.

Mr Biya manouveured himself to power in 1992 first multiparty election, after mass election rigging. That was a non voilent option Cameroonians dreamt of putting him aside , if not for the rigging. Arap Moi handed power to Kibaki (an opposition Candidate) in 2002, through the ballot box.
Kibaki has been in power for 3years, Biya is still wasting his 23rd year. Kibaki just organised a referendum on a draft constitution in his country recently, that is real democracy. Biya can not even acknowledge real problems of national concern such as the 'Southern Cameroons Problem' . Biya promised free education for primary school in Cameroon some years back , it has never happened, Kibaki promised same, it is effective in Kenya. Kibaki will quit if voted out of office, Biya will not quit. So Mr Fossung, Comparing Biya and Kibaki is like comparing an 23year old thief and a 3year old boy who just took a cube of sugar from the pack in the cupboard. A cane can correct that 3year old better than the 23 year old criminal. So, Kenya is better politically and socio economically than your fatherland. Don't be ashame, it is a fact.

History tells us that the genocide in Rwanda sprang up from the fact that a certain tribe was trying to run the country as if it was a tribal farm. Cameroon is already in 'a Rwandan situation'. I am not the cause. The cause stems from those who dread it most like my friend Mr Fokam, who dreads even 'voilent words'. So Mr Fokam we are already at war in our hearts, ok, not because we cannot manage ourselves, but because you(or those) who forced themselves to manage us can no longer manage us. You panick when you hear 'violent words', I am sure you will collapse when you hear the sound of a gun. I am sure if your child was one of the soldiers killed in Iraq, you would have made history by committing suicide in Bush's ranch in Texas.

The fear of the unknown is leading us to take the lose option. Our Children's children's will suffer, if we fuel the status quo. If you can understand that the policeman who extorts 500frs from a taxi driver in Cameroon, has a quota to give the Delegate General of National Security Cameroon, and even the President, then you will understand why police bribery is legal in Cameroon.
The problem is not down there. It is up there. It take just one good leader to change a bad country. Cameroon has no leader, Mr Fokam, we have a ruler. Check the difference.

Well, if violence, has always been used by the Greatest of Virtue at one point in time to solve issues that dialogue could not solve, who are we not to use it if it is the lone option? Jesus violently sent away traders from 'His Father's house' for using it as their market place.
MOhammed says it is a virtue to fight a just cause violently.
Moreover, Bush, the president of the socalled 'exemplary democracy' is violently involved in Iraq now.

In so far as there is no free and fair election in Cameroon, no independent judiciary, no elected Government delegates, difficulty in having credits for small and mediumsized investors,high taxes, poor roads and communication network,unpunished embezzlers, bureaucracy,
then people like you and me will keep running away from our country, and priding ourselves like success cases in a foreign land; leaving our kinsmen to rot through this rotten system; OR we should get up and fight. If you decide to fight with your mouth or ink or internet, i respect you. If you decide to use arms, I respect you also. Th fact is that the revolution should be on. Afterall, don't we put off fire with water as well as with sand?
Neba Fuh

Dr A A Agbormbai

This Celestine Nke Fosung has a great mind, but underestimates his own education by thinking that education is only in the form of big qualifications (and possibly Nobel prizes). The US has many advisers with big qualifications and Nobel prizes. Why then does the US has such a bad image among poorer nations, who institute terrorist activities against it? This tells you that 'big book' does not necessarily mean good advice.

Dr A A Agbormbai

This Celestine Nke Fosung has a great mind, but underestimates his own education by thinking that education is only in the form of big qualifications (and possibly Nobel prizes). The US has many advisers with big qualifications and Nobel prizes. Why then does the US has such a bad image among poorer nations, who institute terrorist activities against it? This tells you that 'big book' does not necessarily mean good advice.

Eya

Bullshit,Mr Biya.

The song is getting boring.Why not make some changes in the tone.

Non sense ,words without actions.


Eya

Charles Forkwa

Dr. Foncha and many others spent their political career in the pursuit of a peaceful solution to the Cameron problem. Bishop Ndongmo did not want Wambo and Takala to knock off Ahidjo because he wanted a bloodless coup. Both attempts were met with failure not for lack of trying but for the mere fact that the power structure in Cameroon is not receptive to any form of dialogue. Although well meaning, these individuals assumed that the people in power were reasonable and rational.
Fast forward to now and you have posters in this forum accusing those who want a more drastic approach as being callous, unpatriotic, selfish - they think these people are inciting others to get hurt while they stay safe - , and all other accusations they can muster. Folks the reality is that the country is close to ruins, both fiscally and infrastructure wise and there is no sign of improvements any time soon. Come up with a different strategy other than “dialogue” and “democracy”, please! They have not worked and they are not gong to work.
So you tell me, keep dialoguing about what? Who is listening? No one, that's whom, and everyone is tired of this charade.
It is time for a new direction and that is going to happen.

Dr A A Agbormbai

Felix,

You can see from Neba Funiba's comment above that he is fundamentally a separatist, who only thinks on the small scale - never seeing the big picture. According to his philosophy one should only be concerned about one's folk, to the exclusion of all others. He belongs to that brand of Southern Cameroonians who believe in a Southern Cameroons Republic to the exclusion of all other nations.

With all the problems in the world who tells him that a country such as the US would listen to separatists, who are only marginally better than terrorists. He should ask himself why the US is on LRC's side instead of the SCNC's. A separatist mentality is the result of half-baked education.

Ngembus Fonlon Mbock

Mr. Agbormbai,

Stop being delusional my friend.
You are an Academic, so please do some little research at least before making statements that will make you look like an idiot in public.

Where did you get the facts to support the following statement of yours “………the US is on LRC's side instead of the SCNC's…..”?

Read the following Resolution from the US Congress and you will see how wrong you are dreamer?

109THCONGRESS, 1STSESSION, H. RES. 503
Condemning the actions taken by the Government of Cameroon against Henry Fossung, SCNC and others, and for other purposes.
(SEE FULL TEXT at http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bills.text/109/hr503.pdf).

Now get this engrained in your confused brain lost soul.

The Southern Cameroons SHALL BE INDEPENDENT.

NOTHING and we mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING can stop it.

OUR VICTORY IS ASSURED.

Happy New Year.

Paa Ngembus
SCAADIM (Southern CAmeroonians Against the DestructIon of our Motherland)

Charles Forkwa

Dr. Agbormbai:
What solution do you suggest for the SC problem? More dialogue? Democatic politics to influence changes? What?
Also, the fact that the US in on LRC side does not make LRC's stand to this problem the right. As you well know the US is looking after its interest not SC's.
So I do not really get your point in all of this.
You may disagree with a radical or tunnel vision approach to this problem but I would like you to propose a solution other than the currently failed solution.
I am all ears!

SJ


Dr. Agbormbai, I can now confidently qualify your reasoning as idiotic, uninformed and disgraceful when it comes to the Southern Cameroons de-colonization question. You are not even a student of law, history, politics or any of the humanities area of study (not holding that against you), but unfortunately you have demonstrated no curiosity to cure your insufferable ignorance in this regard, but you insist on making ignominious comments that reveals a very sadistic and amoral personality in you. A personality you must share with bloodhounds like Biya and other French planted Africans like him, who take a pathological pleasure in seeing their own citizens and fellow Africans reduced to the scum (Sarkozy's word for African immigrants in French suburbs)of the earth.

That you did not know until know that Mr. and Mrs Biya hijacked the life-savings of hard working Camerounese in a bank; a matter that was widely reported by Jeune Afrique Economie and others at the time shows that you should stick with what you were trained to do rather than make a complete fool of yourself with uninformed opinions. As a man of science, you must know that fundamental, tested and proven rules have guided experiments, discoveries, exploration and progress for mankind. For example, a rocket is launched from earth on the scientific fact that gravity is 9.8 m/s2 on earth. This fact has put man on the moon and satellites in space that enables some of us to unfortunately have to deal with the rubbish that you take pleasure in writing on this board.

Who's education are you calling "half-baked"? Let me now educate you and others about the "separatists." Let me, my learned Doctor educate you about thinking on a large scale, for the Southern Cameroons struggle against a brutal alien rule and colonial occupation is based on the largest of scales and inspired by the largest of events: World War II.

Dr. Agbormbai, now be a good student my boy.

The structure of African societies was completely turned upside down by an economic system of commerce that has created the greatest amount of human wealth ever known. Transport across the seas, cultivation of raw materials, transport of finished goods for over 500 years was based on a system that had free labor at its core. For over 500 years, this free labor built Empires, this free labor lubricated the desires for these Empires to get into incessant conflicts with one another, this FREE LABOR was SLAVE LABOR from AFRICA. If you ever travel to the Americas, especially in the Islands and coastal port cities, you will see for yourselve the fotresses built by this FREE African labor to portect their slave masters from each other, this may make you Dr. Agbormbai to learn a little bit more about humanity before you talk so ignorantly. Dr. Agbormabai, do you get paid for your labor?

Officially, this system did not end in the Americas until 1863. America or Europeans who had COLONIZED the Americas and exterminated the local indian populations were the largest benficialries of this free labor and the enormous global wealth it created.

In 1884 (barely 21 years!), after the "official" end of slavery in the Americas, these same Europeans whose stock had invaded the Americas decided to do something about the Africa from whence their FREE LABOR and wealth came from. THEY PARTITIONED IT IN BERLIN! They could not do without their loot from Africa. They had to safeguard the wealth and prestige by keeping Africans as slave on their continent, similar with what France and her agent Biya is doing to the Southern Cameroons people (and of course to the Camerounese themselves).

The Partition of Africa did not stop the "Powers" from fighting each other for land, resources and labor pools (populations) to control. World War I came, there was an artificial armistice, Kamerun of 1884 became French Cameroun and British Cameroons. Wars and conflicts continued amongst the "Powers," fighting each other for land, resources and labor pools (populations) to control.

Are you still with me Dr. Agbormbai?

This brings me to the great German Conqueror who was determined to avenge the humialition of the artificial armistice after World War 1: Adolf Hitler. He unleashed WW 2 and recaptured a lot of land, resources and labor pools (populations). But he went to far. He was defeated by the Allies.

I hope you're still there Dr. Agbormbai.

The Allies decided that the primary motivation for all of this wars since time immemorial was to control "others." The control of the land of others, the control of the resources of others, the control of the population of others. How to proceed they asked? The formed the UN. Formed the Trusteeship System. Formed Trust Territories on the basis that current international boundaries should hold, therefore French Cameroun had her international boundary as did British Souther Cameroons. They did not end there. They wanted these peoples in these carved out Trust Territories, based on their colonial heritage and indegenious system to control themselves. The offered them independence. French Cameroun with her international boundaries became so on 01/01/1960. The Southern Cameroons for reasons that is still hard to accurately explained was never accorded her own independence.

However, the theory of uti possideis juris in international law and part of the African Charter hold that boundaries at independence are sacrosanct, including that of LRC and SC. These principles, the "facts" of human interaction, like the facts that guide scientific inquiry, discovery and progress are stubborn and irrefutable. This is the big picture that animates the people of the Southern Cameroons you call the "separists." This is why the ICJ Ruling notwithstanding, Yaounde will NEVER get control of Bakassi due to the de facto Nigerian rule there. This is why Biya can NEVER mention Bakasssi of the rest of the Southern Cameroons in his speeches!

Dr. Agbormabai, I wish I could do more than provide you a skeletal analysis I have above, there's a lot I left out due to time constraints, but my advise to you is read a little bit more about the history and events of issues before making brazen comments and questionning others education.

SOUTHERN CAMEROONS IS FIGHTING THE CONTINUATION OF SLAVERY IN HER LAND.


sj

tita espoir

my friend SJ,the problem with you so-called seperatist is that u study alot of past events and assume u can count on it to persue u destructive,selfish,unrealistic and hypocritic ambitions.history has been made,we not going to eat history.any realistic person world-wide would not see the need to pay any attension to your ideologies of seperation.dont u think it is because of our negetive artitudes and stuborness that has caused our own problems as anglophones.this u doctrine here about african history,gone are those days.dont accuse us.this is an issue that concerns a people of which common sense shows there are one people.what u need to be telling us is about uniting this people that were seperated or made to feel seperated by this selfish white people .lets prove the white man wrong.i promise u its better to fight for equality and justice than to fight for seperation.if u have a family fight with u sublings,wouldnt u father try to judge this matter equally,rather than telling u to go seperate parts.which would u chose?we cameroonians love each other.we would never dream of seperation.stop implanting this ides of segregation in our people.anglophones have been given credit for the fight against biyas evil regime.lets joint the fight with our fellow so called francophones to make cameroon a better place.to be realistic in this issue to help our country move forward we must carry with us progressive artitudes.dont sit there and give us history about world war 1.we are faced with quite a different problem and need a different approach.either u guys are fostrated,or are biyas agents who want to distract our attension from real issues at hand to deal with.guys stop wasting time,dont be left back.we shall win in the process of slowly but surely eradicating our country from all its ills.peace and love.

Ma Mary

Agbormbai, people are actually being paid for spewing falsehoods and ignorance against their people in the Southern Cameroons. I am of the impression that you are an indigent academic in the UK. You need to send a bill to Biya and Paris for your great work on their behalf. The more I think about you, the more I see the image of a snotty puppy in dire need of toilet training. There are actually only two things wrong with you: arrogance and ignorance, both correctible deficiencies of the very young. It would be a great pity if you are over 35 years of age, because at that time, these deficiencies become as it were writ in stone and indelible. Even your intelligence would not be of much use at that time, infact it would only serve to magnify ignorance and arrogance into annoyance.

It serves every man and woman well to accept the fact that they would always have betters in particular aspects of life. That humility will endear you to those without your abilities while creating the possibility of cooperation instead of rivalry with those of matching or better abilities. Who the hell are you in competition with? You are completely outmatched in this discussion, not because you are not intelligent, but because you are uninformed and insisting on pontificating on matters in which you are ignorant. It is like some smart kid with O level human biology trying to quarrel with a room full of surgeons who have spent years honing their craft. A total waste of time.

Logic is a good skill, but it only goes so far, because specific disciplines are idiosyncratic in ways that defy the rules of logic or scientific thinking. You have to learn the craft and be immersed in it.

Finally, we are all lucky in that the commentaries are often being made by people who are obviously very soundly educated in particular disciplines and are knowledgeable in aspects of the Southern Cameroons story. I often find that I learn new things from the the knowledge and understanding of an SJ or a Randy or a Neba Funiba and even Agbormbai or Janvier on the other side of the story. However I find that I would no longer abide or tolerate Agbormbai's arrogance. Phew! It is raining PhDs and intelligence here, but to hell with that. I learn valuable things from my 5 year old grand daughter everyday and from the woman who cleans my office.

Ma Mary

felix

tita espoir
Thanks for your understanding.There is every reason to make me belief that the so call SCNC write-ups are a paid works by the Biya government to distract real issues that need be discused.For example the increase in defense budget will be justified by them and equally ends up in thier pockets and most in the pockets of the congress men who they claim are behind them.
Who doesn't know how congress men in USA do business with the law.Check the Abramoff Scandal and see for yourself the million of dollars being given back.we will get the scnc in same rol when the times comes.Take note Ma mary and the rest

Charles Forkwa

Tita espoir:
The only ones with "destructive,selfish,unrealistic and hypocritic ambitions" are the governments of Ahidjo and Biya that have destroyed the fabric of Cameroon. You cannot accuse anyone else for you have no evidence to base your accusations on. If you do, please show us, otherwise it is just rethoric.
So how do you propose we "fight for equality and justice"? Please give me some conctrete steps to follow, not generalities. The current democratic edeavours have been hijacked by the goverment since its inception in 1990. And since you do not wish to revisit history give us new proposals not what has failed history.
I am willing to listen - that is to something new we can try.


Ndiks

It is a waste of time answering the infelicitous categorical DR.He prepensely don't want to understand the facts,and prefers
to stand by the rort and frowsty LRC.And you have new fully-fledged simpletons like Tita Espoir thinking the hoo-ha is been fought here.You couln't turn the aspirations of Ambazonians to your vodoo beckoning.

NOTHING WILL DISHEARTEN TO STRUGGLE TO BOOT LRC OUT OF AMBAZONIA.THIEVERY LA RÉPUBLIQUE DU CAMEROUN MUST BE FORCED OUT OF AMBAZONIA NO MATTER HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE.

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