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Sunday, 18 December 2005

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Hudson

Well, I won't say it is not wrong to arrest the criminal. But the issue is why Cameroon allowed a foreign country to make arrests in Cameroon and they didn't obstruct. This is ridiculous. It makes us useless before the eyes of another country. We ourselves are being enslaved. May God help our corrupt leaders. THEY HAVE BEEN BRIBED!!!

Holatu

Well, I won't say it is not wrong to arrest the criminal. But the issue is why Cameroon allowed a foreign country to make arrests in Cameroon and they didn't obstruct. This is ridiculous. It makes us useless before the eyes of another country. We ourselves are being enslaved. May God help our corrupt leaders. THEY HAVE BEEN BRIBED!!!

NJUME TEDDY

I'am very angry and disappionted with the Cameroon government,who l did are slave to
the western government,how long are we going to continue to live like these.enough is enough, we need a stronght government in Cameroon,and that government can only be form by me,we need to work header and make our country stronght too,able to stand against all these threats from the west.
thank,you all my follow country men for your support on me.

Victor

One step at a time Njume. You need to learn how to write first, then we will think about making you our leader. What a joke!!!

NjifenztBD(U.K)

Utterly glaring and corrupt, if not extreemly hollow judicial system we have in Cameroon.
Minister of justice cannot even tell the Cameroonian people if we have/havent an extradition treaty with the country in Question.What if there is miscarraige of justice about this case.This is an unfortunate incident that has brought to light a judicial flaw.This is probably a non event to him.
If this case involved the son of the Head of state or the son of the Speaker (Head of the house of Assembly),there would have been an emergency extraordinary session to pass an instantaneous bill to reverse the fate of any of these persons.
We need a total revolution of persons and ideals in Cameroon in order to hope for a better nation.We are still a Mafia state with a despote at the helm with similiar thoughts like his entourage.Complete negative team leaders.Iam Sick of this!
Hi Victor, just make a point and avoid similating 'Mr. Perfect', for you are not.I will support Mr.Njume Teddy if he has good policies ready to implement them with impunity and better results than the present regime.

NjifenztBD(U.K)

Utterly glaring and corrupt, if not extreemly hollow judicial system we have in Cameroon.
Minister of justice cannot even tell the Cameroonian people if we have/havent an extradition treaty with the country in Question.What if there is miscarraige of justice about this case.This is an unfortunate incident that has brought to light a judicial flaw.This is probably a non event to him.
If this case involved the son of the Head of state or the son of the Speaker (Head of the house of Assembly),there would have been an emergency extraordinary session to pass an instantaneous bill to reverse the fate of any of these persons.
We need a total revolution of persons and ideals in Cameroon in order to hope for a better nation.We are still a Mafia state with a despote at the helm with similiar thoughts like his entourage.Complete negative team leaders.Iam Sick of this!
Hi Victor, just make a point and avoid similating 'Mr. Perfect', for you are not.I will support Mr.Njume Teddy if he has good policies ready to implement them with impunity and better results than the present regime.

Simon NL

This case is an eye opener to ALL CAMEROONIAN WHO THINK GOD WAS STUPID FOR THEM TO BE BORN CAMEROONIAN and want to work and live in AMERICA AND EUROPE, to brandish their mother country black. To me Theresia Mubang should be given 50 years imprisonment and Evelyn Chumbow, the popular Chumbow name in cameroon should be jail for 20 years for her to smuggled her self to the US using a false passport

Robert Kwi

Let us not rush into conclusions without first of all examining the facts. Is Miss Mubang a Cameroonian or a United States Citizen. She had acquired an American nationality, which makes her ineligible to retain her cameroonian nationality. For those of you who don't know, the cameroonian constitution clearly states that any cameroonian who seeks an subsequently acquires a foreign nationality, automatically looses his/her cameroonian identity. Now the questions we should be asking ourselves is whether the Americans did extradite an "American citizen", or a cameroonain. If the former is the case, did they follow proper procedures, such as going through the cameroonian gov't. PIPO WAKE UP!!!

Robert Kwi

Let us not rush into conclusions without first of all examining the facts. Is Miss Mubang a Cameroonian or a United States Citizen. She had acquired an American nationality, which makes her ineligible to retain her cameroonian nationality. For those of you who don't know, the cameroonian constitution clearly states that any cameroonian who seeks an subsequently acquires a foreign nationality, automatically looses his/her cameroonian identity. Now the questions we should be asking ourselves is whether the Americans did extradite an "American citizen", or a cameroonain. If the former is the case, did they follow proper procedures, such as going through the cameroonian gov't. PIPO WAKE UP!!!

PS: Mr. Simon, this is a constructive forum. if thats a little bit too hard for you to grasp, there are other forums out there.
Kwi, Robert a/k/a Berto

Charles Forkwa

Cameroonian law does NOT allow Dual Citizenship. "IF" Ms Mobang was a citizen of the US and had escaped from serving a prison term for a US sentencing, she was considered a fugitive by US. US law requires that all legal means be employed to retrieve and return a fugitive to complete their term of sentence. That is exactly what they did, again asuming that Ms. Mobang had recended her Cameroon citizenship whether explicitly or by default (ie. obtaining a US citizenship).
Now you can argue whether the authorities of another nation can just waltz into Cameroon and snatch someone without due process. If the above facts were proven to the Cameroon govenment then the US was within its rights.
If the facts of this case are correct, would you want a fugitve from one country being haboured by another just because one does not agree with the politics of the other? Or would it be equally ok to do the same just to make a point i.e. the US cannot just came into Cameron and snatch a fugitive?

Riccardo

Charles,

I like your comments. It makes sense what you just said. Unfortunately, people rush to judgement without further analysis.

Thank you,

Riccardo

Billy Nso

Hello readers,

I am glad to see that we all don't agree with Honorable YoYo for questioning the minister. As Charles rightly stated, Ms Mubang is a US citizen and has to be procecuted as such. Secondly, her crime is not only the enslavement of a Cameroonian girl, it is lot more to that, such as insurance fraut, medicare fraut and so on. So Ms. Mubang deserves just what has been given her.

Akini Fred

Robert, Charles and Ricardo.
I appreciete your collective thoughts on this issue. It makes sense to me now. I also think it was right for Hon Yoyo to be clarified on an issue he did not know. Thanks to his question and your analysis, most of us now understand why the Mubang lady was arrested. Question. The late Mac Viviene Foe, Patrick Mboma and lots of other Cameroonian players have dual nationalities. They are also French citizen. Did they forfeit their Cameroon nationality? Why did they keep playing for our national team even at the point of dead? What I see here is that when the benefit is for Cameroon, no mention is made of acquring a foreign nationality.When there are no benefit for the nation, that law is quoted. I am not in anyway condoning with Mubang's bahaviour.

Question 2? Can a Cameroonian living abroad such as Bongam be extradited to Cameroon to face charges of allege corruption at the Limbe treasury? Will the U.S. gov't accept after all his investments in the country? What about all the African who have stollen the collective wealth of the continent and stashed them abroad? Will they be allowed to come face the music at home such as Mubang? The answer is blowing in the wind.

Akini Fred

Robert, Charles and Ricardo.
I appreciete your collective thoughts on this issue. It makes sense to me now. I also think it was right for Hon Yoyo to be clarified on an issue he did not know. Thanks to his question and your analysis, most of us now understand why the Mubang lady was arrested. Question. The late Mac Viviene Foe, Patrick Mboma and lots of other Cameroonian players have dual nationalities. They are also French citizen. Did they forfeit their Cameroon nationality? Why did they keep playing for our national team even at the point of dead? What I see here is that when the benefit is for Cameroon, no mention is made of acquring a foreign nationality.When there are no benefit for the nation, that law is quoted. I am not in anyway condoning with Mubang's bahaviour.

Question 2? Can a Cameroonian living abroad such as Bongam be extradited to Cameroon to face charges of allege corruption at the Limbe treasury? Will the U.S. gov't accept after all his investments in the country? What about all the Africans who have stollen the collective wealth of the continent and stashed them abroad? Will they be allowed to come face the music at home such as the Mubang case? The answer is blowing in the wind.

Ma Mary

You cannot move a fugitive from one state to another within the United States without some kind of judicial process, even if that person is not a US citizen. There HAS to be judicial process to protect people's rights including Ms Mubang's rights regardless of what she did. Cameroun is a lawless state without due process. Where was her hearing? That is why we want our country back, Riccardo

Aaron Agien Nyangkwe

The hell about nationality is no issue. We all know that Leopold Oyono, Paul Biya, Frederick Kodock, Henri Hogbe Nlend and a bunch of Francophones at the helm of the La Republic du Cameroon State are all French citizens as they carry French Passports. That does not stop them from being; he President, the others Ministers et al.
My anger with the Right Honorable Parliamentarian is with the fact that he failed to raise the issue of dual nationality by these individuals holding government positions in La Republique du Cameroun (which as an opposition Parlimentarian, he should know). It is not late, he can still raise that issue in forthcoming sessions, so that the case against La France that started in Cote d'Ivoire could now proceed in La Republique du Cameroun too.

Andre Fokam

All this talk is just emotions on the run . how many of us know the exact facts. we all base our arguments on speculations. Mr. Aaron, can you produce Biya, Kodock or Hogbe Nlend french passports? it is easy to condemn went we base our allegations on rumours.
we don't know the facts (neither does the minister). as for the dual citizenship of the Mboma, Foe, and others, there is what is called National interest at play and it is applied by all countries in the world. if you can run the 100 meters in less than 10 seconds, or make and atomic bomb, you can have any citizenship of the world in less than a month.
it is good hon. Yoyo asked about it. it may open our eyes to a possible flaw in our laws.


Andre Fokam

Robert Kwi

Well said Andre, Hope this brings to rest this issue of dual nationality and "flying passport"
Robert Kwi

Charles Forkwa

Akini Fred,
You are now delving into the "Politics Of Law" As with everything there are exceptions to the rule, usually when it serves some "Greater good". These uys playing football make somebody rich or famous so they ca look the other way.
As to an embezeller who is given safe heaven, it is a matter of who he has paid off that can protect him. There are cases of fugitives that are still at large not because they cannot be found but because someone is protecting them, for economic or political reasons.
That's the real world!

Kumbaboy

By disallowing dual citizenship, the incompetent political leadership of La Republique du Cameroun is placing politics above the engines of economic development.

The clique in power is very scared of any superior Camerounese descending from overseas and running for the presidency and directly challenging incompetency and jungle manners.

That anti dual citizenship law also locks out Camerounese technologists and entrepreneurs who mainly take up overseas citizenship to facilitate their professional development and service to international businesses.

From the laws they make, you can foretell the cynical mindset of jungle VIPs.

Charles Forkwa

Kumbaboy
Ahidjo, himself a fisrt class "jungle VIP", instituted this law to discourage his opponents who had fled the country from returning to challenge his authority. Biya continued the policy for convinience, of course.

Ma Mary
Any one with a warrant out for their arrest is a fugitive from the law. The difference in the extradiction procees is whether one is a convict or a suspect. If you are already a convict and are on the run it means you escaped and are being sought to return and complete your sentence, there is no longer room for due process because you are not going to be retried. All that needs to be established is that you were convicted in a court of law.
On the other hand, if you are being sought for probable cause then you are accorded due process in the extradiction procedue. There is a difference.

Robert Kiwi
Could please explain the principle of "flying Passport"?
Thanks

dango tumma

aahh aha aa

SOO, YOU GUYS THINK IF THIS CASE INVOLVED A FRANCOPHONE, THE PAUL MBIYA REGIME WOULD HAVE COOPERATED IN EXTRADICTING THE CULPRIT? ANSWER IS NOO
AS USUAL ITS AN ANGLOPHONE THEIR DECLARE ENEMY IN THE HOUSE. SOO YOU ALL KNOW THE REST
I DONT NEED TO ELOBORATE,
CAMEROUN LAW, CAMEROUN LAW, WHICH CAMEROUN LAW? THE FRENCH CAMEROUN LAW OR OUR SOUTHERN CAMEROONS COMMON LAW?
PLEASE AMBAZONIAN, YOU HAVE NOT MUCH TIME LEFT TO LIVE IN THIS EARTH, PRAY EACH DAY ,
AND WORK HARD BY CONTRIBUTING TO THE 20 DOLLAR CLUB TO FREE OUR NATION SOUTHERN CAMEROONS FROM BLATANT COLONIALISM

New U.S.A. Paddy

As a Cameroonian in America,I wish to make the following points regarding this issue:
Miss Mubang is guilty of the crime she committed and therefore,as stipulated by the U.S. Law,was supposed to face her own music in the rythm she tuned.
If that crime was committed in Cameroon and the accused escapes to America,the U.S. Government will demand,from the Cameroon Government,a jurisdiction of the accused before granting due consideration to whether the accused be sent back to Cameroon or not.This must be done by any other government of the world in order to protect voilation of territorial integrity.
THIS GOES TO BIYA; I will not sit out here to condemn my country but I condemn you[Biya]and your corrupt government.
Biya: Biya: Be warned because I am coming back soon.
"Contry people dem, wuna take heart. We go succeed".

Home Boy

what a good contribution , finished with a "good joke" by News U.S.A.Paddy!! Sir, When are you coming back? And for what?

Sangu Ngiyah

This issue of the arrest of Ms Mubang has let to the outflow of good comment, some diluted with emotions, yet most of them convey good message.

I do not think that even if by right or by force, the US police just walked into cameroon and arrested a cameroonian/american. The autorities, even the minister who claims not to know the case, were aware and colaborated. The minister may not go to the press and announce that he gave a go ahead after an examination of the case with its legal,international and diplomatic implications. This will be an invitation to criticisms, some which will not be founded. We are cameroonians and we know he could not "do better".

I also think that this issue can inspire our paliamentarians, especially those in the oposition and those good ones on the CPDM bench, to think of the issue of dual nationality for cameroonians again. Cameroon is loosing a lot of human resources. there are so many cameroonians out here with a lot of intellectual and financial power who would like to go back home. Obviously not like Americans or British or so, but as Cameroonians.

may God help us.

rexon

I think we should understand the government and people we are dealing with before we draw conclusions. Mr Biya and co have all dual nationalities. we all know this even though CPDM stalwarts even in this forum cant accept this. then we further know that their children and others have done harmful crimes not only against la republique du cameroun, the republic of southern cameroons but against other nations. They live and walk freely here in europe. Nobody touches them. If Mubang had belonged to the clicked, even in the US courts, she would'nt have been found guilty. I speak with ministers from many african countries like nigeria and ghana and i think the whole world, even the american government is very corrupt and if they do extradict someone like mubang, then it is because she is not well connected to any of the systems. Those who live in the united states and argue that there is any rule of law there are merely ignoring of who actually rules the world. Evem in the scandinavia where little or nothing is none about corruption, those connected to the system still walks free after comminting harmless crimes.

Desire Atem (USA)

Every when I read news about my beloveth country Cameroon I cry, I cry because I know we can only have change after alot of sacrifice. preseently there is no opposition party in cameroon because all the opposition parties are now divided. Within the opposition party there is opposition. I THINK ,it is hight time John the president of SFD stepped down. The party need a complete decentralisation and changed of Government that I prefer calling in power in cameroon. Presently the government has failed in every way but little can be done because there is no body to correct. I think a person that commit crime any where should be punished when and where ever arrested. Presently, The USA is on war againts terror to put them to justice, they are not fighting in their country. We can not solve our problem by looking at one point. It is a global issue. A thief in Cameroon should be consider a thief every where. A murderer remain a murdere irrespective of where he is from

New U.S.A. Paddy

Home Boy,
I am coming home not for any benefits but for patroitic reasons.If you will help to join me fight the frustrating government in Cameroon,then I will be happy.
As soon as I round up some monetary figure, I will announce my coming.

Ma Mary

Mr Kiwi: That is a good point.

MFAOKORANTIMUK

Rexon,
Do you mean if George Bush's daughter embezzle £1 Million and it comes to the open, she will walk free just because her dad is president and she is well connected? Tell me oooooo!!!
Ms Mubang committed a couple of crimes in the US. Yes she succeeded to escape to her 'lovely'Bamenda and started trouble to claim her Old Man's property. As a fugitive she needed to stay low and pay for her protection. But you know this Americawanda palaver.Unfortunately for her, the U S of A can put her Cameroon under pressure at any time to get what it wants.
Cameroon, though a Forsaken Country should not be a place for Criminals to run and hide after committing crimes abroad. She deserves to be in jail.
As for Bongam and similar cases having doubtful financial dealings /records in Cameroon, it is up to the Cameroon Government to seek to extradite any such persons to stand trial for crimes they may have committed or to serve their sentences in jail if already found guilty.
Whether the regime can have the muscle to do that is a different issue.
With regards to Dual nationalities, you can always denaturalize and take up Cameroon Citizenship again(if the law permits)if you feel so passinate the country.
I doubt how many of you can drop your British, American or French citizenship to Paysans.
Merry Christmas to you all and a biologically stable new year 2006.

MFAOKORANTIMUK

New USA Paddy,
When you touch down, donot forget to rent my brand new 10 years old latest model Toyota Camry.It will cost you only $10 a day (peanuts to you Americawanda).I can safely drive you to Molyko Buea, where many 'Small Things' have refused to go on Holidays to sit back and get you bushfallers well f**ked for your hard earned Dollars.Get some 'rubber'handy as well. If you have already shipped one of those petrol guzzling beasts from America, the Customs are waiting for you, Santa Claus.
Take note, you may have petrol problems especially if you will be heading dowm to my lovely Mamfe, where there is no filling station.And donot yell, sh*t men, when your 4 X 4 get stuck on the Express Road.
Even the Military vehicles in town, which you can hire for your private business depend on fuel from Nigeria.
Welcome home and Viva Le Cameroun

Hannah

Am a cameroonian lady who is residence and married to a foreigner he intend to nationalise in cameroon. How do we can aboout that.

amber

Go bribe somebody. If the price is right you will get what you want.

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