Buea To Host Centre For Human Rights And Democracy

By Pegue Manga

A new organisation to promote the respect for human rights and foster democracy in Africa will soon go operational in Buea.Named Centre for Human Rights and Democracy in Africa, CHRDA, Barrister Felix Nkongho Agbor Balla, a PhD law student in the University of Notre Dame in Louisiana, USA, is Founder.

Balla:CHRDA Founder and Prof. Cassel

An independent, nongovernmental, apolitical organisation dedicated to the promotion of democracy as a political culture, CHRDA will help local activists, scholars, researchers in providing research facilities and creating a culture of respect of human rights and democracy.

A release signed by Agbor, states, "CHRDA engages in different and sensitive issues related to the advancement of human rights and democracy via a series of projects.
According to its mission statement, CHRDA will promote democracy and good governance and develop strategies aimed at gathering resources in securing compliance with human rights norms.

The centre also hopes to work "with government authorities to improve Human Rights situations, curb abuses to the minimum, encourage ratification of international treaties and agreements related to human rights," says the release. CHRDA hopes to collaborate with legal practitioners who intend to render pro bono services.

CHRDA will collaborate with members of the legislative, judicial and executive branches so as to bring the necessary legal changes. The Centre will serve as a liaison with other (domestic and international) organisations focused on human rights, ranging from educational institutions, governmental and intergovernmental bodies to charities.

The release states that one of the overall objective of the centre is to foster sensitisation and awareness of human rights and Democracy through the organisation of lectures, seminars, conferences and debates.

Prisoners, Women Rights

According to the release, the rights of prisoners are given minimal attention in African countries. "This is because in most countries, prisoners are considered as outcasts in society, giving very little attention to their welfare. This is also compounded by the fact that very little is known about minimum standards for the treatment of persons in prison."

CHRDA will "promote legal aid for prisoners and persons in detention, HIV and AIDS awareness in prisons, promote prisons visiting scheme for next-of-kin, education and training for prisoners and prisons officers, advocacy for prison reform policies and workshops on prison rehabilitation," says the release.

The Centre intends to partner with civil society organisations, the clergy and traditional rulers to clamour for women's human rights. "We seek to promote the rights of women by exploring and ameliorating the various institutions at local and national levels. We implement initiatives that promote women's economic and human rights, support women activists and lawyers, and confront harmful cultural, traditional or religious practices," according to the Agbor Mballa signed release.

First Conference

CHRDA has scheduled an international seminar on "The Role of African States in the global war on terrorism" in Buea, in November this year. Prof. Doug Cassel, Director Center for Civil & Human Rights, University of Notre Dame, Louisiana, USA is expected to make a keynote address on the topic: The Role of International law in Combating Terrorism while Maintaining the Rule of Law.

Other speakers will include Prof. Mary Ellen O'connell, and Marion Short Chair, University of Notre Dame Law School, Prof. Ndiva Kofele Kale, George Ngwane, Promoter of Africaphonie and Dr. Enoh Tanjong of the University of Buea and others.

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Comments

[SJ]

When the Nazis occupied other European countries, the citizens of those countries with the help of Allied Forces did not sit down and ask the Nazis to respect treaties and talk about human rights and democracy. The evil Nazis were eviscerated, the people resisted. Charles de Gaulle packed his bags and left his government that had compromised the humanity of French people to live to fight another day.

These westerners with the help of some Africans are here talking about "The Role of International law in Combating Terrorism while Maintaining the Rule of Law." What international law is France and la Republique du Cameroun NOT violating by occupying a territory that was not part of LRC both at her independence and when she became a member of the UN, and unleashing genocide upon her people.

Doug Cassel and co. are racists, just like the British who called the Southern Cameroons' peoples "expendable" in 1961, and the French who called us "a little gift" if they think the the rules of humanity and nature does not apply to the peoples of the Southern Cameroons.

This coterie of African P.hDs are myopic and ill-advised, if they think these Americans will anesthesize Southern Cameroonians by pulling a knife stuck 12 inches in our backs by 2 inches, to paraphrase Malcolm X. All of this rubbish is insulting when the colonial forces are killing our people with impunity on a regular basis. What happened to those who killed the UB students? What will happen to the animal of a gendarme who killed another Southern Cameroonian in Mbengwi recently. They enjoy absoulute impunity in their exercise of STATE SPONSORED TERRORISM.

Poor of material wealth, and even poorer of intellect and courage, we have Southern Cameroonians and Africans, with the useless P.HDs (see what P,HDs are doing for INDIA) liniing up each time these American(it seems lately) jokers dismebark a with some pittance of money that an 20 year NBA player makes in a month, and think they are doing the natives any good and developing themselves. There will be no development in the Southern Cameroons without the end of the brutal colonial occupation by Paris and Yaounde.

AND ANYONE WHO RUNS INTO DOUG CASSEL, TELL HIM I AM WIATING FOR HIM, EITHER ON NPR WITH HIS COMMENTARIES THAT WILL NOW RING HOLLOW IN MY EARS, OR ANYWHERE IN THE US WHERE HE SPEAKS. HE IS CAVORTING AN GIVING LEGITIMACY TO A GENOCIDAL PROGRAM IN AFRICA.

Shame on you, Doug Cassel, I am disappionted because after listenig to you for many years, you just like all of them.

[Klode]

SJ and others in your school of preaching hate doctrine, get over yourself with the Southern Cameroons, la Republique bull shit. Thats how it starts. Talk sense dude.

[Andre Fokam]

SJ
as time goes, we know more about you and your hate mongers friends. you are good for nothing in Africa! all you do is talk and insult! nothing concrete or positive comes from you and you are surprised that no one listen to you?
Kudos to Barrister Felix Nkongho Agbor Balla. he is making his own contribution to the advancement of his people. he deserve to be encouraged and he will be encouraged, because (thank God) most people are reasonable (unlike you).

[SJ]

Klode,

We will not be cowed by your accusations of "hate doctrine." I suppose you have much to learn.

What is hateful and wicked is what one group of Africans, blind, intoxicated with a racist and fascist policy concocted in Paris have unleased on another.
My friend that's how is starts, you're right, don't be afraid.

-French-trained gendarmes from la Republique du Cameroun have raped women and men and sodomised them with broken bottles, and they get promotions in return.
-French-trained gendarmes beat and kill the young and old everyday in Southern Cameroons and are rewarded.

What hatred made la Republique du Cameroun destroy the government and institutions that took care of the wellbeing of the Africans in the Southern Cameroons? After all these years, after the destruction of our technical high schools in Ombe, Kumba and Bambili, after the destruction of Powercam, after the looting of Cameroon Bank and the marketing board, after the humiliation, what has la Republique du Cameroun gained: HEAVILY INDEBTED AND POOR COUNTRY. They have also gained our hate, our scorn and in above all our pity. Pity, because the average citizen of la Republique du Cameroun never benefitted from the rape and plunder of the Southern Cameroons. The plunder was used to fund political parties in France, enrich the French treasury that built roads and hospitals and factories in France. Chump change was given to negoroes like Biya and his primitive gang of thieves.

Now the French and the British, racist to the core as was the conspiracy to "gift" a group of Africans to Charles de Gaulle and his nazi policies (compare the motto of LRC and the motto of France under nazi rule), have taken a low profile so that "America-wonder" can come remove manchild Paul Biya from the "biberon" that his masters in Paris have been feeding him, kicking and screaming to return stolen money. The benefactors of illegality, corruption and a culture of death: France and Britain are now hiding to let their cousins from America take control, an of course we have our learned Professors, standing in line not questioning the motivation of a people from a country whom their average citizens thinks Cameroun is a star in the solar system.

My friend, as you rightly said, this is how it starts. This is the beginning.

And for you Doug Cassel in particular, we'll meet soon, and you'll have to explain what drew you to a place where a French-installed petainiste regime has killed and unleashed genocide upon a people. Africa and the Southern Cameroons will follow you. My promise. If you cared one bit about the law, if you cared one bit about the humanity of Africans, the first question you'll ask yourself or your PHDs in Buea who lined up will be how Southern Cameroons remains a colony? RUBBISH.

[neba funiba]

Thank you SJ. I read your write-up at francewatcher and it was superb. To fight human rights in greater Cameroon, internal colonization must be addressed. Internal colonization is defined herein as the oppressive and exploitative relationship between a dominant group and a marginalized group within a defined geographic area. In greater Cameroon, internal colonization has four characteristics: (i) two discrete geopolitical components, LRC and SC, within defined locales; (ii) a culture of domination, oppression, and exploitation by LRC (the internal colonizer), and subordination, subjugation, and passivity by SC (the internally colonized); (iii) a system of hyper-exploitation in which the looting of resources in SC is undertaken by LRC for the sole purpose of increasing the economic resources appropriated tax-free from greater Cameroon by France; and (iv) institutionalization of externally-based control—frenchification—such that the marginalized SC becomes politically irrelevant and only serves as an administrative unit within the internal colonizer’s dominant and oppressive governing system. The fight for human rights must begin by addressing internal colonization of SC.

[Ndiks]

Gobshite Klode and Fokam just jump into matters and make encumiums without even thinking independently.Ambayonia is notg LRC who just admire things without making critical thinking and questioning.This mmeans that,Cameroun will not keep hold on Ambazonia in the nearest future.You have purloined enough and is about time you vacate Ambazonia before being purged.Those great human right advocates from Louisiana have no speciaal knowledge of human right than Ambazonians,talkless of coming to teach us human rights and organise seminars,and education.We don't have time to be admiring some phi beta kappa talk shops passing as human right INC and all what not.We are above such things.Typical of Fokam and his ilk,keep eulogizing things you can do,but out of slobbishness,you will not even bother about.Have you a monetry policy,stock exchange fokam?

[dango tumma]

when well educated men as sj speaks they
people listen, who are these foreigners
like ANDRE MICHEL FOKAM, WE AINT TALKIN ABOUT PLANTATION DE CAFE IN BAFOUSSAM. SHUT THE HELL UP AND ROLL YOUR SLEEVES AND FLIP YPUR BURGERS IN BURGER KING IN MINEASOTA. WHAT JOB CAM YOU GET WITH YOUR TWO YEARS IN ANGLOPHONE AMERICA, EXCEPT FOR THE LANGUAGE SCHOOL THAT HAVE HELP FEED A FEW ENGLISH WORDS IN YOUR HEAD.

[dango tumma]

GOOD JOB NEBA, THE WAY TO GOOD REAL ANGLOSAXON WAY OF THINKING, SOO IS HOW THE WHOLE WORLD SEES IT TOO
EXCEPT FOR SOME DREGS AS FOKAAM, AND THE SMALL PHD, MAN FROM LA. THE POOREST STATE IN USA.

[Janvier Tchouteu]

Neba Funiba,

Am I observing a transformation or the unveiling of a carefully concealed side? Avoid generalizations or collectivizing blames, because it puts you in a situation where you tend to see things in black or white only and render you incapable of clearly identifying victims and those responsible for their plights. Your approach is a populist approach but blinding, divisive and insincere. It tends to retard the all-embracing nature of the struggle than serve it. Our generation can not afford that in the next phase of the struggle.

[neba funiba]

Janvier:

I have agreed with you on some occasions and I respect your disagreement with some of my views. I know you are here in the US and I hope we can someday sit with several others to debate this cordially. If you attend debates at some of these think-tanks in the US whose members are occasionally picked-up for positions at the State Department or World Bank and introduce yourself as someone originally from Cameroon and then hear what I was once told, you will get to understand my mine frame. Whether we like it or not, almost 75-90% of East Cameroon votes for Biya; and you can drive from Bafoussam through Bafia to Yaounde, to Edea, to Douala, to Loum, to Nkongsamba, to Bafang, and back to Bafoussam on Tarred roads. You cannot do same from Victoria to Muyuka, to Kumba, to Manyemen (hence Mamfe) to Batibo, to Bamenda, to Nkambe, to Kumbo, and back to Bamemda, on tarred roads. Not one Francophone power-broker who has stood up to ask why? For the past several years, Japan opted to build or equip 15 primary schools in Cameroon and none of the of the projects selected was in the Anglophone area--how about that? I am not saying all Francophones are bad, it is the system that benefits them and they are enjoying it. Not all Anglophones are good either. Whatever the case, I still have certain things that you write about that I agree with. Chao!

[Klode]

Neba and Janvier, I appreciate your manner of addressing issues, not like the disgruntle approach others use here. Our generation affirm the lapses of the regime in power, but as anglophone Cameroonian, I believe we should stop the labelling and all what the cohorts of Ambazonian assume as their solution to the problem.
I believe we can work as one Cameroon in brotherliness. Change is bound to come and will not suffer a setback. Get over the anger in you when you want to express yourself and if you stand against 'colonialism' as you term it, do not use the 'anti-colonial' rhetorics of the 1960's to fight issues of contemporary time. We know all the stories SJ and others are putting out,(deja vu). I believe its still for the ears of the very foreign powers are are talking against here. Brothers, we know those who are responsible for the plight of our fellow citizens.
Kudos to those trying to contribute to the development of human resources in Cameroon.

[Nkosi Jacob]

Neba Funiba
When usually you write here, one comes way with the impression that you are a levelled-headed individual with lots of information to share especially when it comes to Cameroon/World Bank relations. Indeed your worries are exactly those shared by the average Anglophile anywhere in the world. It is true that a majority of the Japanese schools are in French speaking Cameroon. But there are others in our own Southern Cameroons. Arguably though, they are not enough. At ALAKIE, in MANKON stands one Japanese built school.
cheers!

[Dr. Louis Mbua]

Mr. Klode and Janvier,

I have read your writings. Now, I will respond to you two as accordingly. The era of empty "brother" is over. If you believe you can preach this brother nonsense while our people are slowly being killed, cheated and denigrated, then you are in gross error. Now is fire for fire. There is time for everything:

Time for "brothers", time for enemy

A Time to hate and time to Love

Time to fight and a time to negotiate.

Time to fight fire with water;

And a time to fight fire with fire

The suufferings and rights of the peoples of Southern Cameroons is NON-NEGOTIABLE. You cannot negotiate the rights of humans by creating human rights organisations alone without actually addressing the evil that is present in that same system. Either the Francophone leadership stop what they are doing in Southern Cameroons or they are forcibly pushed out. So, stop this "Hello, Hello". We are not interested anymore. Tell your brother administration from East Cameroon who run Southern Cameroons to do what is right by leaving the territory with immediate effect. The territory is not theirs as has been exemplified by the Bakwerilands BLCC victory in Banjul and endorsed by the AU.

Southern Cameroonians should run themelves after the system they know best; and not be subjected to some alien system devised by Government thieves in Yaounde.

When this has been attained then we can discuss a larger Cameroon. Not now.

[A. Agbor Agbor]

It is very difficult to bail our beloved brethren from the propensity to engage in vicious ad hominem arguments. We always succeed in avoiding the issues at stake and confronting personalities. That seems to be an exercise in futility, which benumbs the abilities and deadens the reflexes of positive thinkers.

We always exonerate ourselves by assigning responsibility to others. We always accuse the West for the parlous plight in which we are inextricably entangled. And I really wonder the degree to which the political, economic and social failures of our country are attributable to them. If we really have to devise modalities on how to resolve our differences that run so deep, we must first of all begin by looking at ourselves: where did we go wrong?

The efforts by a Cameroonian to commit and canalize his scarce resources in a cause that seems so humane, modest, contemporary and appealing is laudable. And the nobility and passion radiated by such a cause is irresistible. It is a calling worthy of its name. It is a call which requires a positive, spontaneous and irreversible response from any human being who understands the gravity of the systematic abuses of human rights committed within the national territory.

It is a cause that is a response to the millions of Cameroonians out there who are incarcerated for offenses they did not commit, for detainees who have been detained longer than the maximum penalties prescribed for the offences they are charged, for juveniles who are sexually molested, exploited and cannot be given a second chance by the penal system.

It is a response to the voices of the Cameroonian women who have been victimised by cultural norms and practices, and do occupy the despicable status of manipulated and oppressed beggars, reduced to the statuses of sandbags on which to rain punches, and used as tools for the manufacture of children.

It is the timely response of a people whose rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness have been made dependent on the whims and caprices of unscrupulous, half-baked law enforcement agents, who are nothing but perpetual mendicants who feast on the dregs of others.

It is the timely response of a nation that breeds hopelessness, has been unable to confront the deadly virus of corruption, has made its own people impotent and irrelevant in the political equation.

It is the response of a people who believe that they are human beings, and that issues such as democracy, rule of law and human rights, remain interdependent, inseparable and inteconnected, that they are entitled to political participation to establish a government that is founded on poupular will, giving them the power to retain and terminate the elected officials.

It is a response that is motivated by the horrendous human rights abuses, because rights entitled to everyone are being violated on a systematic scale, facilitated by the culture of impunity.

It is a response that identifies the tasks, challenges and difficulties that impede the effective compliance of human rights and democracy in Cameroon.

And despite the enormity of these, there is still justification for engagement: because human rights belong to all, and the respect given to human rights reflects the level to which democracy is implemented in a country, that the rule of law must be implemented to ensure that everyone is equal before the law, and violators of human rights are subject to administrative and judicial (criminal and/or civil) proceedings.

That our brothers and sisters continue to simmer in resentment and despair,

That we suffer severe limitations as to what can be said, by whom and where,

That the women have been victimised by cultural practices, and the absence of laws that demand equality for all,

That our sisters, daughters and mothers have been translated into objects for sexual gratification as conditions for acquisition, retention and promotions in jobs,

That our children are being molested by the same custodians of the law, are made objects of contracts considered contra bono mores,

That we cannot actively pariticipate in determining the political destiny of our country,

we consider these provocative, inhumane, illegitimate, and of grave concern...therefore, we must not pretend.

We need dynamic human rights activists, who have been drilled and schooled in human rights, to take the challenge, begin the cause, lead it...and stay in the cause....

The birth of the Centre for Human Rights and Democracy in Africa is more than timely. With the calibre of the professionals engaged therein, I see a different vision: an NGO that is committed to the survival of human rights, not only in paper, but also exploring options to their enforcement. At a time when the African Court of Human Rights is still developing its jurisprudence, the Centre will be a catalyst to human rights litigation. The fact that superior international bodies have their eyes opened will make judicial, legislative and executive branches know that human rights is not just a question of rhetoric or western ideology, but is international law that must be enforced. Initiating litigation will obviously improve accessibility to justice, and when the judges adjudicate on issues centered on human rights, then, we will know the distinction between a right that is simply arituclated and a right that is enforceable.

For now, they remain a source of law, which enjoy a superiority over domestic laws, and enforcement of these laws with the present judicial infrastructure and setting is the problem.

Nonetheless, there is hope that this NGO makes a significant contribution, which is discernable from the mission statement I perused on the web page.

The debate on human rights centres partly on its universality. While there is a marked distinction between what is really universally desirable and universally possible, I hold firmly and unshakeably that human rights and democracy are universally desirable and possible. The fact that this article is being read on the web page of a legalised private newspaper gives us just a preview of the advantages of human rights and democracy.

I find it difficult not to be part of this great idea conceived by an illustrious son and professional scholar. And may the good Lord guide him as he steers his resources in this direction.

A. Agbor Agbor
Research Student

[Dr. A. A. Agbormbai]

Quality contribution by Agbor Agbor.

[SJ]

Mr. Agbor Agbor,

I sincerely understand your sentiments, but we must all become fully informed about our state of affairs in the most honest of manner in order not to be distracted. Some of us have taken the responsibility to act (not just by writing here and elsewhere) in negating what we view as fallacies of reasoning in the conduct of human affairs in the Southern Cameroons, for it has gone on for too long and show no signs of changing. Especially from a section of what increasingly looks like an unispired intelligentsia that is always prepared to expose to riducule the real sufferings and humiliations of the people of the Southern Cameroons and Africa at large. We must disregard "respect" for primitive authority, be it that of a French-installed petainiste junta of thieves, Chiefs and Fons, big brothers/sisters and parents, or P.hDs and other various titles. We will hold on only to ideas.

Any man of the law knows without a shadow of a doubt that what is happening to the territory and people of Southern Cameroons is inhumane and will not happen if the Southern Cameroons was in Europe and inhabited by Europeans today. The political expediency that allowed for tyranny and oppression in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Republics ceased after the Cold War: various peoples in Latvia and Estonia and Georgia and Craotia and Slovenia; names that were not on the map, where given the OPPORTUNITY for self-rule and sovereign independence. Are the people of the Southern Cameroons less human than these peoples? It is of historical note that independence was refused the Southern Cameroons, in part, because the democratically elected government of Foncha was judged to have sympathies for the "communist-inspired" UPC resisting genocide by France in la Republique du Cameroun. Kenneth Emmerson, the US Consul General in Lagos at the time said so, and on record. The lack of sovereign independence of the Southern Cameroons, the immorality and illegality of that betrayal (with the British justifying their evil and racist act be calling us 'expendable' and handing us over to a French government that was actively killing what later amounted to 400,000 Africans in the Bamileke Genocide, and the French happily taking us for 'a little gift to France from the Queen of England'), our consequent colonisation by France is the root cause of suffering and lack of freedom in the Southern Cameroons. Since the Franco-British conspiracy, a culture of lies, fraud, illegitimacy, illegality, corruption and impunity has fattened the French treasury, French corporations and business tycoons and a few negroes while impoverishing the people of Southern Cameroons and subjecting them to brutalities from the medieval age. Even la Republique du Cameroun has become almost bankrupt in the process, for when you turn a blind eye to the first wrong (their brutal annexation of the Southern Cameroons on behalf of France) it is only logical that more insidious and grevious wrongs compound.

If our learned P.hDs and international lawyers can not see the truth and speak the truth for their own people, then their education must have been an obsolute waste, "benefitting" only themselves in a desert of misery. If they are prepared to invite American men and women of law, while living a country under occupation by any definition of international law without a tweak of irony, then they have lost something more than their minds, or maybe gained something somewhere to "benefit" themselves alone.

We must counter the Muna and Foncha syndrome, where in the vigor of their youths, and the apex of their manhoods, they sold their people down the river only to apologise and ask for forgiveness in the frailty of old age and comfortable retirement. We expect that the truth, and only the truth be told to the world. And the truth about any aspect of life, from man to tea leaf in the Southern Cameroons, is that of a brutal alien colonial occupation. An occupation that destroyed the institutions that took care of the well being of a people; destroyed, corrupted or liquidated the personalities that resisted this occupation, and plundered the foreign reserves that the representatives of the Southern Cameroons had built up for their children. And if anyone chooses not to tell this universal truth about our homeland, we on the other side will do it ourselves.

Our education and basic decency should tell us that the problem in the Southern Cameroons is not about some nebulous topical "Role of International law in Combating Terrorism while Maintaining the Rule of Law" in a land where law is inexistent. While it is of course the prerogative for others to create their NGOs and invite people to talk on whatever they choose, it is also our prerogative not to cede this space of discourse to them alone. Therefore, people like Doug Cassell will learn more about the land he'll be giving his talk on " ... Maintaining the Rule of Law" in November:

*A land under brutal colonial occupation where babies as young as eleven months old and infants as young as two years old are liable to detention for weeks without recourse to seeing family members and lawyers!
*A land where no instrument of international law has given a primitive and brutal French-implanted ethno-facsist authority to rule there.
*A land where state-sponsored terrorism against defenseless populations under brutal colonial occupation is the order of business.
*A land where alleged crimes (terrorist crimes, if you believe the petainiste Yaounde junta) committed in the Southern Cameroons is being tried accross international borders in a foreign court, under an inferior and corrupt "judicial" system in a foreign language, in la Republique du Cameroun. Read more here.

Above all, we gotta be honest and serious. Recently, individuals who escaped from the gulag in Kondengui, after being charged with terrorism where offered refugee status in their United States and not sent to Guantanamo Bay; don't they think the State Department knows that Yaounde is a joke if they are offering refugee status to "fugitive terrorists"? Why would the US State Department do that? Who is fooling who? How does NGO being set up in Buea andtheir distiguished American Law professors on the way reconcile this reality? Please Southern Cameroonian intellectuals and lawyers, let's be honest with ourselves. How silly.

[Dr. Louis Mbua]

Mr. Agbor Agbor,

I have read all kinds of "big book" writings about Human rights from Cameroonians. Good. Your first task should be to confront the evil men in Yaounde who have taken another African Hostage by stealing and destroying what they own in Southern Cameroons. We are no longer interested in "big book" people making conferences upon conferences on "human rights" in Buea or Cameroon while side-stepping a great evil in Southern Cameroons. This applies to international organisations such as Commonwealth who profess human right yet turn a blind eye on the Southern Cameroons issue. This is a great hypocrisy.

Your effort is commendable but if you refuse to address the evil in Southern Cameroons, we will attack your organisation as one of those "money" inspired hollow cash cow from abroad. You would be like a human rights group in Soweto who keeps quiet about Apartheid in South Africa. An outrageous scenario.

[Dr. A. A. Agbormbai]

The concept of human rights embraces the rights of all, including anglophone Cameroonians (vis-a-vis their francophone counterparts). It is true that some special attention must be given by the government to the affairs of anglophone Cameroonians.

It is a sad state to feel that there are hardly any major tarred roads in the anglophone parts of the country. This is shameful of the government.

I am keeping my eyes open to see that after the completion point is reached the government makes real and visible attempts to address the issue of major roads in the anglophone provinces.

Without this, I shall certainly be at its throat like an angry shark!

[Andre Fokam]

Dr. Louis Mbua, rexon, Ndiks, SJ, Dang Tumma:

as Klode said. "DEJA VUE".
you folks say nothing new, bring nothing, are irrelevant to your society, you are completely misguided to the true problems our dear country face. you are not the first and will certainly not be the last, but our struggle for a Cameroon of democracy, justice, fairness, progress and unity will continue. in 50 years, some of you who are still alive will be here saying the same thing and will still be referring us to a 100 years history!
be realistic with your ambitions! No one listen to you, you are becoming very boring! at least if you don't want to change, give us some actions.

[simo]

Mr. Balla

I understand your position and sentiments. Your idea commendable but not the best for the people in Great soppo ( Buea) in particular and Cameroon in general. Please rethink your position and try to address the problem of cameroon which is poverty.
Simo

[Dr. Louis Mbua]

Another arrogant Mr. Fokam,

According to him, SONARA taxes should continue to be paid in Douala for his tribesmen to borrow in Banks and do business while Victoria people die of poverty. He went on:

"be realistic with your ambitions! No one listen to you, you are becoming very boring! at least if you don't want to change, give us some actions."

Not every person is given to listening to the truth. While one does not subscribe you to be a devil, but the Devil, for one turns away from the truth because it cuts through him like a double-edged sword.

What does Mr. Fokam mean by Change? When his tribesmen become landlords in Southern Cameroons as a result of illegal selling of Southern Cameroons lands by Thieves in Yaounde. Accoding to him we should accept this as "change". How shallow!

And who says action does not include intellectual agitation? And what evidence do you have to prove that "no body listens"? Please don't be frightened......

[Peter Nanjia Likake]

For all those who do not see anything good in any initiative and who like cripples blinded by sand winds keep singing the gospel of Southern Cameroons' Liberation, please read Agbor Agbor's contribution again. It might help you understand the relevance of the nascent human rights centre.
What I find disturbing in this forum is the propensity for some contributors to leave the substance and go for the shadow. To take froth for substance and the counterfeit for the real coins. What has happened to the SCNC and its leader back at home? Its leaders are busy signing asylum documents and receiving money from impoverished Cameroonians, to enable them seek asylum abroad, where they would be subjected to all forms of indignities. So which Southern Cameroons are you harping on.
I think the centre for human rights and democracy goes beyond the phoney Southern Cameroons problem.
So let us give it a chance.
Kudos Felix Nkongho, we wait for you in Cameroon
Peter Nanjia

[Nji Ahmadou Njitam (NAN)]

Brother Andre,

You make mistake when you think no one listen to secessionist propaganda.

Many Anglophone Cameroonian listen.

In 50 year as you say the secessionist win. That is why they laugh now.

We Francophone Cameroonian are problem.

Attitude like you and Riccardo will do the reverse of what you wish.

It will divide Cameroon.

Like I say before, if we do not go to 1961 and correct error after formation of our country from union of Francophone State and Anglophone State, we will end with two Cameroon.

Look at Somalia today. The AU has now accept Somaliland. Former Somalia never listen to complain of Somaliland in union. Today you have two country.

Please Francophone Cameroonian. Let us change attitude or we are working to divide Cameroon just like secesionist.

I do not support secessionist.

Many of you who claim for unity actually support secessionist because you make them mad and sharpen their message.

We must change. We need to work to compromise and make consensus.

Otherwise we work like secessionist for two Cameroon in 50 year like Andre say.

Thank you.

NAN...

PS: I do not live where many think. Continue to look. I think secessionist have quite good secret service. But you make some error.

[Andre Fokam]

Mr NAN
before 1961, there were mistakes made in 1960, before that, 1918, before that, 1905, and i can continue to go back! no one has the monopoly of history but we can take control of the future. we belong to an area where democracy is the only way to evaluate the will of the people and that is why i say no one is listening to them in scnc (and don't think i am talking of Anglophones) because they have never proven to the world that they represent anyone through a single election. if they don't want to take part in elections, let them call for a boycot of any elections organized in the region they claim. or let them do something that will demonstrate that they have a followship. the world is not blind!! the real need in Camerron now is genuine democracy where the people voice will be the ultimate dictate. it is in a democratic society that we will decide on whatever system we want. we disgree with the scnc because they are trying (thank God unsuccessfully) to digress us from our genuine problems.

Dr.Louis Mbua, only a genuine democracy will correct these problems. making any change without the blessing of the people will only lead to chaos!
i am for a united Cameroon, you are against, but none of you or me can solely impose his will. only the people voice should be applied. "basic democratic principle and common sense".

and BTW, what is really wrong for a patriotic Cameroonian to set up a NGO in his homeland to promote a human right culture? (beside being against human right!)

[Neba Funiba]

I am expanding on a point that is made above (not a critique). The reason why we are at a dead end is because the truth is never told to the masses by both the Biya regime and the IMF/World Bank. When and if at all Cameroon reaches the completion point of the HIPC initiative, a portion of the debts owed shall be cancelled. That is it. If there is no money to invest in infrastructure and social services now, there will be no money to invest after the HIPC completion point is reached. The debt owed to other Banks such as the Islamic Development Bank, African Development Bank, and loans owed to France, etc., shall still be outstanding. For, example, in 1993 when the Clinton Administration in collaboration with the IMF/World Bank refused to allow Biya to borrow, France turned around and gave the lion man a loan of $185 million and this is what he used to pay the men and women in uniform to crush "Operation Ghost-town." Every year, France looks for every opportunity to lend money to Cameroon--in 2005, France gave Cameroon a loan of $20 million for the rehabilitation of a portion of the railroad between Yaounde and Ngaoundere. It is a strategy used to keep Cameroon perpetually dependent on France.

Fact: The African countries whose debts have were cancelled since 2000, are still ranked among the top 20 most impoverished nations (see UNDP annual reports).

Another falsehood of the regime is the fact that Inoni goes around the globe with rascals like Akere Muna to lure foreign investors to Cameroon--what a joke! How can businesses thrive in a country where electricity is rationed? Why is electricity rationed? Because of the absolute the dependence on the inefficient SONEL. Powercam was very efficient but was closed down. Also, for those of you who want to know, CDC in all of Muyuka and Ekona never even got its electricity from Powercam because CDC had its own power supply at Mallalle, Muyuka. When you leave Muyuka to Ekona, just after the Police Check point in Muyuka about one mile southbound, you cross a river--while on that bridge, look to the left, you will see the remnants of the dam, the CDC hydroelectric powerstation that supplied electricity to Muyuka and Ekona. Furthermore, Menchum Falls can be developed and harnessed to supply electricity relatively cheaper, but French engineers who have never made any feasibility study at the site concluded that the volume of water is not enough. The sad part is that some of us (especially from Mentchum itself) readily accept because they do not want to jeopardize their chances of being appointed to a "BIG" position. We can write whatever we want on this website and curse each other out--reality is on the ground and is prima facie evidence.

[Nji Ahmadou Njitam (NAN)]

Brother Andre,

Why pretend?

1885 is gone. 1905 gone. 1918 gone.

Cameroun today is from 1961. That is formation of modern state.

That is what we fix.

The SCNC is right. I hate to admit point of secessionist.

Our genuine problem is error that kill federation. The other issue are symptom of problem.

You say nothing about Somalia. That sound alarm for me brother. Really similar case like Eritrea.

Anyway brother, we disagree here.

Thank you.

NAN...

[Ma Mary]

Rexon, SJ, Funiba, Mbua: the people are listening. Please, keep up the good work. NAN, your people have drank the koolaid- they actually believe their own propaganda and will not yield to facts. They seem not to have learned anything from world historical events. Self determination must precede democracy. Fokam believes that democracy is a panacea for everything. Democracy alone would never have solved the problem with the former Soviet Union. People held against their will to bondage and servitude to Russia had to achieve self-determination before setting up their own democratic structures.

Democracy is not everything. What good does a fake vote do to an enslaved people. Freedom in law must precede. Just law means first of all, decolonization, reversal of the injustices that have been visited the Southern Cameroonian nation.

NAN, I said before, you are 10 years too late. Forward-thinking Southern Cameroonians have already crossed the rubicon and the tide of opinion has turned. Never mind people like Agbormbai who insists on using words such as "anglophone". An "anglophone" means "beast of nation" and completely robs us of historical context. One month of total exposure to frogism will permanently cure him of this affliction. At the bottom, he is a Southern Cameroonian.

Mr Agbor Balla is thoroughly informed about the Southern Cameroons, so it would be a dissappointment if he does not make the Southern Cameroons question one of the central issues of his NGO. It is easy for some people to get carried away by easy grant money and to work in ways that are counter to one's fundamental convictions.

As NAN correctly summised, human rights, marginalization and all these things are merely symptoms of the colonization of the Southern Cameroons and it does no good to deal with manifestations without addressing the root cause. When your house is on fire, you are not trying to turn out the light created by the fire, you are trying to douse out the fire itself. Which is it, Felix Agbor Balla?

[manga che]

Ma Mary,

I am suprised by SJ's fury. It is totally uncalled for and I think that you guys are taking out your frustrations on Mr. Balla for no reason. I am sure that none of your lives is TOTALLY consummed by the Southern Cameroon's struggle, 24 hrs a day. I am sure that some, if not all, of you are involved in professional, cultural and other endeavours that are only indirectly related to SC, if at all.

Mr. Agbor Balla must also be afforded the same right.

I have said in different circumstances on this forum that the human being is multi-dimensional so we should not try to box people all the time. Mr. Balla or any other person for that matter, must be dedicated to the cause but not become a hostage of the cause. He should therefore, as a full human being have other has other areas of interest; and if a broader human rights struggle is one of them so be it.

I am among those who believe that fighting for SC indepedence MUST go hand-in-hand with doing everything possible to improve the lot of our oppressed people within the cursed triangle. If we ignore that "internal" component we might end up with a free nation made up of broken , demoralized, and unproductive people. In this regard, I urge Mr. Balla to forge ahead with his project because it clearly involves that internal component even if that is not obvious to those matching to the beat of ultra nationalism.

So Mr. Balla, don't be cowed or drowned out by other people who have rich and diverse non-SC activities but nonetheless try to dictate what you do with you own spare time, your life and your academic career. Be as diverse a human as possible while doing the little you can for the SC cause. That is all we can ask.

[TaintedChild]

People, people give the brother a chance.

Mr Balla has taken time out to propose what can only be assumed to be a laudable endeavour unless proven otherwise at some later date. I am down with any individual who makes the sacrifice to promote human rights in Cameroon. Lets face it, such undertakings has never been in the interest of our government and her agents.

Few of us ever put our money where our mouth is!

I believe it would be a mistake to expect CHRDA to solve issues of human rights or any other issues for that matter. The gist of the press release suggests a promotion of human rights rather than implementation. So if you feel you can assist with this project come off the side lines and get involved.

Mr Balla, it is unfortunate that our country possess very few organs such as the one you propose. This is in evidence by the number of self interest groups who clamour over one another to impose their agenda on you, already. When in fact CHRDA owes no one any favours.

I will follow your progress with interest. (BTW how does one follow your progress? Will you launch a web site? As a web analyst I would gladly assist you in developing one)

[Roland Ngong]

Human societies are dynamic. One never knows what lies in store for any of us or for our countries for that matter. In the case of Cameroon, those who think we can and must stay together even though the indicators point to a union that has "incurably and irretrievably broken down"; those who imagine that they can continue to hold a people down until kingdom come must have read their history upside down.They must have lost touch with an immutable fact of history.The Roman, Ottoman,British, French and Portuguese empires have all collapsed. It took approximately 70 years for the USSR to "implode". It took a shorter time in the case of Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. It was even shorter in the case of Senegambia and Cape Verde/Guinea Bissau.So I never lose hope.
I grew up in the tough era of Ahidjo.Who ever imagined that he would end up being buried in some nondesript grave "shamed and vomited" by the same people who held him in such awe while he was in power?As I say I never lose hope.Change is at the very core of every society inhabited by humans. It will surely come someday as the light of day emerges in the wake of the "darkness of the night".
But I am realistic enough to recognise the fact that our existence on this earth is finite.So while we are all still here, we must do our best to improve the circumstances of our fellow human beings while not deviating from the ultimate goal.That is how I see Mr. Balla's project :an attempt to create awareness in various circles.My kids - transfixed as they are by the flitting display of French ornament - do not fully grasp my appeal that we must stay the course or else we are doomed to despair. Balla's efforts may just amount to a drop in the ocean of woes we are traversing - but it needs to be commended.The plebians in our midst must undergo apprenticeship, if need be, in matters that will "inform" their future and their future's future.

[mimi]

Agbor Balla head man , you want use head go ahead and use your head papa, na God give you.
All what you mentioned about rule of law and human right and what so ever is bull shit. So you think when a policeman assaults a civilian at the check point he doesn't know that what he is doing is unlawful. The law has no problem but the problem is the people and the rigime. Anyway i know say you want hit your own jack pot so go ahead and sing all the jing-dong bells and answer all the halleluya in the choir the end point is the you want hit stick, who no know you Balla. You bi don smart since time way you never be lawyer now way you don learn law sotay for P.H.D that means say your head don big pass Bonu Innoscent he own self. Kudos Maitre.Extend my gretings to my Friend Konbe Elizabeth alias Lizzy Bronte, your lovely wife.
Mimi
France

[Dr. Louis Mbua]

Nobody begrudges the formation of a Human right NGO in Buea. Mr. Agbor Agbor has done a good thing. On the other hand we have had our own share of insults.

1. SONARA in Victoria paying taxes to Douala.

2. Our Ports no longer functional although they continue to exist.

3. Our farmers are impoverished. PMO transplanted to Douala from Victoria; and then destroyed.

4. CDC sold before our very eyes.

Every person using the peoples of Southern Cameroons for their own benefit while the people get poorer. The Head of Commonwealth coming to Buea to collect his Doctorate, passing through footpaths; and knowing the plight of the people. But he didn't utter a word.

THAT ERA OF INSULTS IS OVER. If you set up an organisation in Buea, Bamenda etc, it must benefit the people of Southern Cameroons FIRST and then others and not other peoples FIRST and nothing or crumbs for our people. Certainly Not for a few elite to use our people for personal benefit. We cannot sit down and keep wishing things to change in the "future". WHAT FUTURE? 100 Years? We want change Now! If Mr. Agbor can help us highlight this evil and abuse of our people, fine. If he decides to do as SONARA, Ayaba Hotel etc..are doing, well, we would be left with no alternative but to attack his motive, mission and values....

NAN. You are an honest man. But nobody is a separatist. People are merely asking what is rightfully theirs. If it means it is got by Cameroon unity, so be it. If by two different nations, so be it also. Human rights can never be compromised.

Mr. Fokam. Southern Cameroons is not new to democracy.

[NjifenztB.D.(U.K)]

The initiative from Barrister Agbor Balla and cohorts is a very good one.
All we need is to applaud them to meet their objectives.Where it proves challengingly unproductive,then one would have assessed the depth of their failure.There is nothing wrong to try something of this structure.It is neither a pressure group nor a political party.
Its stupid to think that Barrister Balla is exploiting this initiative for personal gains.Familiar people should please grow up and quickly realise that life is dynamic for some people.He is nolonger a 'boy' back in the days.With some respect he is a Barrister(PHD) Student AND Parent studying law.

[Dr. Louis Mbua]

Mr. NjifenztB.D(UK),

Only a fool will allow himself to be taken for a ride everytime on a "wait and see" nonsense. Any reason why people are referred to as "Anglofou". See what? See that SONARA has started employing people from Douala rather than Victoria before acting? Those who want to continue to do be "good" can go on. It is a matter of choice. Bu the wait and see policy which Foncha et al practised causing our people to be enslaved is over....

[NjifenztB.D.(U.K)]

Mr. Louis Mbua
How can you prove being vanquised,vindicated or victorious when you are not offered a chance to prove yourselve?This is not a political party.It is a Center for Human Rights and Democracy in Africa.(CHRDA)Their journey motif is beyond Cameroon.
By negating initiators like Barrister Balla and colleagues, i think u need to create your own structure to tackle our problems.On this platform, we can simultaneously assess you both in terms of achievement.As a Cameroonian in the diaspora, this a modest start towards nation building.Barrister Balla and his crew are not up to no good on the spotlight.Avoid criticising something you have not even created.Its fair to wait and see or applaud for subsequent assessement.

[Dr. Louis Mbua]

Mr. NjifenztB.D (UK),

I never negated his work. Rather that the work should reflect the most imposrtant human rights abuse in Buea -- That of discrimination, theft of resources, illegal government in Buea and subjugation of the population in English-Speaking Cameroon. And then he can expand to other parts of Cameroon.

He is free to do this or not do it. It is about choice. Same as founding a human rights NGO in Soweto.......and go to fight cases in Johannesburg.....

"Avoid criticising something you have not even created.Its fair to wait and see or applaud for subsequent assessement."

Why? Who says criticism must be based on a "wait and see". The war in Iraq could be obviated if criticisms from many quarters were heeded.

One thing: We have been insulted in "wait and see" for far too long until we are now considered fools. THIS IS OVER..........

[Ma Mary]

Fellow Readers: I am completely for giving Barrister Agbor Balla a chance and some time. What we will not stand for is dressing a rotting corpse with a wedding dress and calling it a beautiful bride. We will not stand for is applying a bandaid (plaster) to a gunshot wound. SJ's fury seems to arise from the fact that from the initial looks of things, this NGO is not addressing core matters of the land in which it is situated. Is it giving a blatant annexation cover? Just like Biya's NEO gave vote rigging cover,and his self-administered corruption board is giving his corrupt ass cover. That is yet to be seen, but this gives CHRDA notice to be relevant and not be mere window dressing.

The topic of the initial symposium: international seminar on "The Role of African States in the global war on terrorism" is strikingly irrelevant to the people of the Southern Cameroons in general and Buea in particular. We do not do terrorism or religious extremism in the Southern Cameroons. Never have; and all evidence indicates that we never will. If it is an NGO to cater for non-African needs, it should be honest enough to say so, and perhaps should relocate to Northern Nigeria where there is pervasive anti-Americanism. If anything, we are pro-American, and America would earn our undying friendship by helping to accelerate our inevitable liberation.

Postscript:
Fokam, go to your country and try to be democratic there. Remember that we knew about democracy long before you did. We shall practice democracy in our own country. None of your business.

[A. Agbor Agbor]

CONSIDER THIS:

While we use this forum as a catharsis to our pent-up feelings, permit me throw some basic questions to the Cameroonian people:

Mindful of the state of affairs in the country, is it a question of who is responsible, or what makes these horrendous things possible?

In other words, do we assign responsibility to individuals for our economic, social and political failures? Or blame the institutions?

Assume that you were given the helm of leadership in CAmeroon today, what will be your first priority to ensure that the nasty and bitter history of what the people have experienced and are still going through is not repeated?

I will like us to see Cameroon's problems, including even the Anglophone issue, through the perspectives reflected in your responses.

I have set the ball rolling. And let us discuss issues concerning our country convincingly, lucidly, coherently and persuasively, bearing in mind that every idea advanced by anyone is worthy of attention, and we may disagree without being disagreeable only by tolerating even intolerance. That is partly a reflection of how democratic or undemocratic we are and also respect the rights of others to express their opinions. Whether an opinion is right or wrong is not for us to decide, we can only debunk it by advancing better and stronger opinions with justifications. These sound like some rules of the game.

A. Agbor Agbor
Research Student

[Dr. A. A. Agbormbai]

Good views, Manga Che!

[Dr. Louis Mbua]

Mr. Agbor Agbor,

Individuals make institutions. Institutions do not appear on their own. Consequently, people are responsible for the creation and proper running of institutions in accordance with the aims and goals as prescribed in their mission statements. The following is that individuals who run institutions are held into account.

On certain cases, individuals can connive to create institutions that exploit the people; break the law or violate constitutions. Such institutions are normally disbanded; and these individuals prosecuted, tried and possibly jailed if found guilty.

So to answer your question:

"Mindful of the state of affairs in the country, is it a question of who is responsible, or what makes these horrendous things possible?

In other words, do we assign responsibility to individuals for our economic, social and political failures? Or blame the institutions?"

Individuals are to blame if they violate the law or rules and regulations.

Institutions are disbanded if they were designed to trample on human dignity.

In the case of Cameroon, the present system of government is illegal because it violates the civil rights of Southern Cameroonians; as well as international law of self-determination of peoples. The system, therefore, must be abolished; to be replaced by one based on justice and equitable distribution of resources reflecting the equality of man.

Secondly, those individuals running the country are mostly thieves. They have to be dismissed, tried and jailed if found guilty. This includes the President of La Republique du Cameroun, Paul Biya. Creating an institution to fight corruption is good. But for him to become head is extremely preposterous, unethical and fraudulent.....The best for him to do is to leave the scene lest he risks a popular uprising for his unceremonious exit, trial and disgrace.....

[manga che]

During the last years of his life, the Great Albert Mukong created a Human Rights organization, which did not specifically mention the Southern Cameroonian cause to which he had dedicated his entire life to. It was simply to promote and defend human rights in Cameroon. But guess what in about 5 years or so of existence, this "Cameroonian" human rights watch dog never dealt even once with a case of human rights abuse in French Cameroons. All of its work was in Southern Cameroons in general and the NW province in particular.

The Mukong example is relevant as we unleash the attack dogs on Barrister Agbor Balla. By virtue of the organization's location (Buea) and the activism of its founder, it is improbable that the organization will deal with all other human rights abuses in the area save for those that specifically concern Southern Cameroonians.

I don't know of any human rights organization in the SW province that has the vision of Barrister Balla's organization. I would therefore expect that all these SC activists, who can reach Balla by phone in less than a minute, would jump on the opportunity to see how the organization can be directed to focus largely, if not primarily on human rights abuses of the "Anglophone community". Instead what do we see? The attack of people to whom the word "strategy" doesn't exist.

The SC cause has some fine minds and authentic patriots but their actions are not having the right impact because of this tendency to lash out and to focus on one dogmatic path, rather than learning how to use the tools available, even if they are not perfect.

If the Centre for Human Rights and Democracy in Africa ends up not focusing on SC human rights issues, I will personally blame a myopic and visionless SC nationalist community for that failing, and not Mr. Agbor Balla.

Power, power, power, will get you absolutely nowhere. Go ask the SDF...

[FELIX NKONGHO]

The website is www.chrda.org. Interesting debate.Truly appreciate the intellectual sword play. Lets focus on the issues addressed by the CHRDA. I encourage all to visit the website so as to have a better picture of what CHRDA is all about.
Agbor Balla

[Dr. Louis Mbua]

Mr. Manga Che,

The African Commission of human rights has to first focus on human rights violation in Africa. Pure and simple.

To believe that Albert Mukong would have focused somewhere else when violation occured in front of his nose would be illogical. The work in his area of location was just too much for him to cast his net wider. Surely, if Cameroon listened to him, then this organisation would spread to the entire country. But to believe that Mukong would have ignored those violations in Bamenda, Wum, Kumbo etc for the mere sake of trying to be "national" is like asking a man to solve a problem in another man's house when his own house is on fire. These are the realities.

Mr. Agbor's NGO is a free thinker. He can do whatever he likes. That is up to them. On the other hand, people are free to point out its short coming in relation to the Southern Cameroons issue. This would be the case with all human rights organisations in Kosovo, Apartheid South Africa, subjugated Southern Cameroons or American Civil rights movement in the 1960s......

[Andy]

Dear All,
After reading some of your comments, I feel that some of you did not take time to read the article on CHRDA.We should not be so negative; not everybody is an SCNC member. The idea of the learned and erudite scholar/human rights lawyer is not to form an organization clamoring for the liberation of Southern Camerooons. Thats the duty of the SCNC and all other pressure groups.However, am certain that the Center whilst ensuring that human rights are respected, will as part of its activities ensure that the rights of Southern Cameroonians are respected. The CHRDA is a non political NGO which covers Africa in its entirety. It is not limited to Southern Cameroons or to La Republic. The fact that the headquaters is in Buea does not mean that its focus is only on Cameroon.It is a Center for Human Rights and Democracy in Africa. The center is made up of human rights professionals from all over Africa. And lets I forget, it is a center which also involves in research. Thats why the topic of the conference is important because it brings to debate topical issues in international law such as the war on terror.
Rather than crucify the initiator of such a wonderful idea, lets encourage him. I see a visionary in Barrister Agbor Balla. He has always been a human rights crusader and I can vouch to the fact that he will put all his efforts to ensure that CHRDA achives all its goals.To come up with such an idea is very laudable; not every one can be so creative and ingenious as to create such an organization. It is not only the inspiration but the perspiration to ensure that the organization sees the light of day. More grease to Agbor Balla and his team. The website reflects your professionalism. I recommend other human rights organizations and crusaders to visit the website.
Kudos Maitre Balla

[Dr. Louis Mbua]

Mr. Andy,

The SCNC is not Southern Cameroons. SC is not an organisation either. Neither is everyone a member of SCNC although they have overwhelming support in Southern Cameroons.

I insist that it is illogical to have a Human Rights Organisation operating in a country that is under subjugation without addressing the issue. Whether it is international or not is irrelevant. Dr. King had to address his Black subjugation first with his civil rights organisation. Else what exactly is the point?

At the same time, it is up to him. Nobody can force a person to do what they do not wish. Whether one turns out to be a sage or a fool will be judged later; from your works;your aims; and who you represent.

[SJ]

In the Southern Cameroons, as reported and documented in Communication No. 266/2003 of the African Commission of Peoples and Human Rights that I linked up before, you will find the following documented amongst many more:

1.
A typical method of abuse, torture and other inhuman and degrading treatment is the ‘ratissage’ (or ‘caler-caler’, in the language of those foreign forces). A method of psychological warfare used by the French to enforce their colonial rule in Vietnam, Algeria and French Cameroun, the ‘ratissage’ is a cordon and search operation, an encirclement and dragnet manoeuvre, periodically carried out by military forces against the population. This subjugation and terrorization strategy is meant to impress on the people of the Southern Cameroons that they are hopeless, powerless and that any contemplated resistance to Republique du Cameroun occupation would be futile.

2.
Resistance by the political elite of the Southern Cameroons to absolutism and “la francisation imposee” (‘imposed Gallic assimilation’) was met with high-handed treatment. For standing up to Republique du Cameroun’s expansionist agenda Prime Minister AN Jua was labeled ‘un autonomiste avant tout’ (‘a die-hard autonomist’) and dismissed by Ahidjo. Jua would later die in circumstances, which remain suspicious. When Foncha reminded Ahidjo that there was no valid union accord or treaty between the Southern Cameroons and Republique du Cameroun and that it was high time such an accord is concluded between the two parties, he was shabbily treated and dismissed from his decorative office of Vice President.

3.
Dr Fonlon called for an equal quota of cabinet ministers in the Federal Government. He called for the establishment of a Federal Senate with equal representation for the Southern Cameroons and Republique du Cameroun. He called for meaningful representation for the Southern Cameroons in the Federal Assembly so as to put the Southern Cameroons in a position to influence policies and law making. He called for Southern Cameroons autonomy to enable it to effectively govern itself. He called for an end to the treatment of the Southern Cameroons as a dependency of Republique du Cameroun. Fonlon was summarily dismissed from his ministerial job. Nzo Ekhah-Nghaky was also labeled an ‘autonomiste’ and was also sacked from his ministerial job.

4.
In Republique du Cameroun, an insurgency group (variously referred to as ‘les maquisards’, ‘les terroristes’ or ‘la rebellion’) operating since the 1950s had been fighting the French colonial authorities and later the Ahidjo government, in that country. In December 1966, shortly before Christmas, some members of the terrorist group, natives of the Bamileke tribe, crossed the border into the Southern Cameroons and killed four Bakossi villagers in Tombel for no apparent reason.
-The Bakossi vented their anger on resident Bamileke tribesmen. (These were among thousands of refugees fleeing relentless repression in their native Republique du Cameroun, and who had sought asylum in the safety of the Southern Cameroons and were given sanctuary in Bamenda, Kumba, Tiko, Tombel and Victoria as migrants.) The Bakossi retaliation resulted in two or three casualties and the destruction of some property. A civilized government would have called for calm, given police protection to the two communities, established a commission of inquiry, and arrested and prosecuted the culprits. The Yaoundé regime chose to act otherwise.
-Ahidjo ordered in his troops and a barbaric act of collective revenge was exacted against the Bakossi people. West Africa Magazine of May 1967 records that 236 Bakossi men, women and children were massacred and Tombel town destroyed. Another 143 Bakossi people were abducted and transported to Yaoundé under inhuman conditions. They were tried by the Yaoundé military tribunal in a language and under a law they did not comprehend. The charge was subversion.
-Of the 143 people 17 were sentenced to death and executed by firing squad; 75 were given life sentences in various gendarmerie-run detention camps (in effect to slow death given the cruel conditions of detainees in those camps); two were sentenced to years imprisonment each; 4 were given a two years’ jail term each; 1 person died during the trial; and 36 persons were discharged.
-In all about 330 Bakossi people perished at the hands of the Yaoundé authorities. Every Bakossi family either lost a family member or was affected as a result of the pogrom

5.
Over the years financial and other establishments set up by the Government of the Southern Cameroons as well as private businesses by Southern Cameroons businessmen have all been purposefully and systematically snuffed out: the Development Agency was destroyed; the Cameroons Bank (CAMBANK) was moved to Republique du Cameroun, looted and then closed down; the Marketing Board was looted and its financial reserves of over 78 billion cfa francs (approx. USD160 million)misappropriated with impunity; the Electricity Corporation (POWERCAM) was closed down, its assets confiscated and the hydro-electricity installations in the territory demolished; the Cameroons Timber Company based in Muyuka was closed down and its assets confiscated; Fomenky’s Direct Supplies company, Niba Automobile company, Nangah company, Kilo Brothers company, Union Profess in Kumba, and Che company were ordered to relocate in Republique du Cameroun and then were deliberately starved of credit and squeezed out; agro-industrial establishments such as Santa Coffee Estate, Obang Farm Settlement, and Wum Area Development Authority were maliciously closed down; also maliciously closed down were Cameroons Air Transport (CAT), the Tiko International Airport, the Besongabang Airport, the Bali Airport, the Weh Airstrip, the Victoria deep sea port, the Tiko sea port, the Ndian sea port, and the Mamfe inland port on the Cross River! Republique du Cameroun has contrived to grab Southern Cameroon’s only surviving industry, the Cameroons Development Corporation (CDC), under the thin disguise of privatization. This move has in effect dashed the legitimate expectations of the indigenous owners of the land occupied by the CDC to eventually recover their ancestral lands.

I believe some of our younger Southern Cameroonians will find some of this surprising.

In the Southern Cameroons, what I consider meets Raphael Lemkin’s definition of genocide has been unfolding for quite some time.

And some speak of fury?

In a land where babies, as young as 11 months old, and infants are subject to detention for weeks without contact to family?

And some speak of fury?

We will not be cowed. We will not concede the space of discourse to imported or locally grown NGOs when babies are born in sorrow and anguish, grow up in sorrow and humiliation, and die in sorrow and hopelessness because of an institutionalized evil colonial occupation that resulted because European peoples believed on one hand that Southern Cameroonians were expendable and on the other that they were only fit to be “little gifts” for exchange. Our position as Southern Cameroonian patriots, in all spaces and under all circumstances, is to challenge this de-humanisation until is is brought to an end.

And some speak of fury?

To quote Joseph Addison, "I will indulge my sorrows, and give way to all the pangs and fury of despair."

[Emmanuel ( Arizona)]

hey!! Agbor Balla! " this boy will go far" kudos to you brother keep doing what you are doing. To all you Dr, Dr, Lawyers out there who sit on your asses and criticize what Balla is trying to do, what have you done for your people, apart from making up big words and criticize something you ought to be proud of.

[dango tumma]

AGBOR, THE LOW -LIFE PHD MAN LISTEN
TRUTH AND KNOWLEDGE ARE ONE, A PHD IS EQUAL TO A PHD ONLY IF WHAT A PHD HOLDER DOES IN AFRICA, HE CAN ALSO DO IT IN BRITAIN, AMERICA. ETC, KNOWLEDGE ONLY BELONGS TO THOSE WHO KNOWS THE WORLD MOST,
AND THE WORLD BELONGS TO THEM ( ALBERT EINSTEIN) RELIGION WITHOUT PHILOSOPHY, LEAVES MANS SOULS A RUBBLE OF THE EARTH
(AL SENAY) GREAT AND EDUCATED MEN ARE THOSE WHO HAVE A SOUND VISION AND GREAT WORKS FOR THEIR PEOPLE , BEFORE DOING TO OTHERS,
NOW, IT APPEARS. AGBOR IS DRUNK, WITH HIS
20 YRS AGO PHD, HIS LEVEL OF THINKING IS THAT OF FORM TWO AT UB.YOU CANNOT TALK TO ANY BODY, AGBOR ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS OF 6.5M SOUTHERN CAMEROONIANS IN THE WORLD TODAY,
AND YOU PAR IT WITH THE OPPRESORS MAJORITY
FRANCOPHONE, THE WORLD KNOWS OWNS AND RULE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS ILLEGALLY AND CRIMINALLY.
WHAT KIND OF HUMNA RIGHTS YOU TALKING ABOUT.
UNTIL 6.5M AFRICANS HAVE A CHANCE TO RULE THEMSELVES, BUILD THE OWN NATION , ECONOMICALLY, MILITARILY, SOCIALLY, IN THEIR
CHOSEN SYSTEM , AS A SOUVEREIGN COUNTRY, NO BODY, I REPEAT NO BODY HAVE A RIGHT TO COMPARE THE NATIONS, DONT BE FOOL BY THE NAME( CAMEROON)WE ARE TOTALLY DEFERENT, IN ANY SENSE OF IT. JUST AS CONGO BRAZZA IS DIFFERENT FROM CONGO KINSHASA, OR GUINEA CONAKRY IS DIFFERENT FROM BISSAU.
SOO PARK YOUR OLD OUTDATED PHD AND CAME DOWN FROM YOUR HIGH HORSE AND SIT DOWN WITH THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHERN CAMEROONS AND REASON AGAIN AS ONE OF THEM NY FREIND, WHY
BECAUSE WITH THAT TYPE OF REASONINGM EVEN THOUGH WE ARE FROM THE SANE TRIBE, I WONT HESITATE TO SHOOT YOU WHEN WAR BREAKS.

[dango tumma]

KLOBE, YOUR ONE KAMERUN WAS DEATH AND BURIED, NO BODY AND NO NATION EXIST TODAY ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH THAT HAVE BEEN FORCED TO STAY JOINTED UNDER A COLONIAL POWER, PLEASE NAME ME JUST ONE, LOOK AT SMALL IRREATEA, WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR CUNNING
FINE WORDS , ALL WE ASK IS LEAVE OUR LAND, TAKE YOUR GERDAMES, MILITARY, POLICE WITH YOU AWAY BACK TO YOUR OWN FRONTIER, OR YOU DONT KNOW THERE IN AN INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNISED ONE FOR LEC?
WHEN YOUR PEOPLE LEAVE , GIVE US ONLY FIVE YEARS, AND WE WILL BE A POWERHOUSE TO RECKON
WITH IN AFRICA. NOTE THAT 70% OF ALL PHDS HOLDERS/ GREAT SCIENTIST, ENGINEERS, THINKERS AREFROM SOUTHERN CAMEROON, SOO ONLY
THOSE WHO WERE BORN FROM THEIR MOTHERS ANUS WILL BUY YOUR ONE KAMERUN. BE PROUD OF YOUR OWN VILLAGE, YOUR OWN COUNTRY I MEAN LRC WITHOUT AMBAZONIA, AFTERALL YOU WERE
NEVER BORN ON THEIR BACKS.

[Ma Mary]

DANGO ENOUGH WITH THREATENING PEOPLE

I do appreciate the fact that Barrister Balla is reading the feedback here. That is a good sign. We shall be calling his organization's attention in due cause to violations of the following the Human Rights of Southern Cameroonians by la Republique Francais du Cameroun.These are from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that Cameroun recognizes :

Article 4.

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Article 15.

(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.

(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

Ndiks may want to elaborate on these.

[Suyoung]

Mimi Has said it all Agbor Balla is a wise man who thinks he can use his intellect to reap from an opportunity and pretends as if he wants to do something for his country and people. You are doing something for yourself and family build a better house for your family after you receive the first consignment of aid.'' Agbor Balla want use head that is all ''. Many people has used N.G.O's and become millionaires. Balla do you know how many human rights organisations exist today in cameroon. Or you think because the head quaters of your organisation is located at great soppo it will make a diffrence. M&G night club was located at great soppo but it still fell flat on the floor.
The laws in cameroon are very good laws but the application is bad and there is nothing your association can do about it rather than being a paper tiger and do cosmetic things and then receive financial support from oversees. Everybody who violates the law knows he is violating it. So you think when Ondo Ndong and others were stealing money they didn't know that what they were doing is wrong or when the police assaulted two journalist at mile seventeen check point they didn't know the illegality of their acts.Balla the truth is you want to make some fast cash so that you can build your family a befitting house at great soppo. Balla has always been a
yvette Suyoung
Tokyo

[annie mae]

HMMMMMMMMN
so much for being a cameroonian,i can clearly understand why paul biya succeeds in ruling la republique the way he wants. anglophones are filled with hate for each other and it is working to the opponents advantage.how can people be so negative about something they have no idea about? keep talking to listen to your voices and let's see how anglophone cameroon will benefit from your negative talks.
has it occured to you haters that even if nothing good comes out of this organization some people will be employed at least and that will mean solving some people's problems?
martin luther king fought against segregation and died fighting,today blacks are still being descriminated against and we still observe his birthday. that is simply because he started something good and black people saw that.snc,sdf,carry your problems to your forums,they are bigger than you and you cannot solve them atleast not by talking to and about people the way you do.
mr agbor balla is not your president,he will only do what he can do for himself and his country,if you think he is trying to build a house then fine too coz we need such smart people in our society. channel your problems to the right people and shut the fuck up about all these problems you keep listing everyday.i know some of you simply wish you had the initiative to do what agbor balla is doing. if you can point out all the ills of the government then you should research ways of solving the problems and take action just like mr agbor balla.
what step have you taken to help the situation? i hate to say this but sometimes i really think cameroon would be worse if we had a northwestener for a president.
mae

[naima]

we should applaude balla for using his initiative as an anglophone cameroonian to form this organization becoz we shall all benefit directly or indirectlyfrom it if we learn more about it. again if we think he is trying to enrich himself i still think we should applaude him,atleast he is not embezzling from our country to build his house. there is nothing wrong with using your head to take water from the sea to an empty bucket.let the white people worry about what will happen to the money if he will be given any. are some of you just scared that he will be internationally recognized? you can be at that level too if you stop criticizing and focus on positive thinking. anglophone,francophone,etc we can build a better cameroon if we start appreciating others and their efforts.
mimi we now know you know balla personally,but your comment was very shallow,next time call him or his wife and chat off your thoughts.
naima

[TaintedChild]

Dango Tumma, there will be no shootings here son. Threats to Mr Balla only weakens your argument. If you got gripes with the status quo, you are smart enough to rethink and channel that anger for the good of your cause.

Too often this forum resembles a comedy sketch. Don't get me wrong, I love the occasional comic relief after a heated debate. But this straight up takes the biscuit!

After reading many of the above criticisms, much of what I gather from the text is pent up anger and disillusion, with no relevance what so ever to CHRDS. I can see where all this is leading to:

[1] A mola from Bona Lyonga will write in to blame CHRDS for his dead ngoa.
[2] The Bolifamba massive will call Mr. Balla to demand a new fish market! With flood lights.
[3] SCNC will call CHRDS to further their cause. (Sh*t!! Not a bad idea)

There are way too many player haters on this forum. You folks who criticise this noble endeavour, without affording it a chance to deliver, need to calm the hell down, take a deep breath and think.

How does that fee?

You have picked a fight with the wrong man. Your beef isn't with Mr. Balla, look else where player!

[Klode]

Dango and other haters, ease-up guys, your write-ups a way out of proportion. There are many HR NGO's in Cameroon, we may not see their impacts directly in our societies but the well meaning ones make a difference, even if just by their presence. Or are you guys so so crazy about it because you seee Balla and his Prof on the picture? Thinking he has hit a jackpot? Whats wrong about building the family house in G.Soppo? Oh guys read yourselves again when you are done writing. Damn!!!!
I see we are all so concerned about Pays! I appreciate that, lets put the force against Biya. Our fathers or those leading the SCNS or whatever group cannot really help us. They are just from thesame 'colonial' School of thoughts like the regime. Lets beleive in youth power and help our selves, because the Chiefs, Fons.....etc clamoring for sessession are just blood thirsty vultures.
Also guys, lets always try to make out reaction short and concise. It should not be longer than the article we are reacting to. SJ et al, that's for you. I understand you got lava in you and want to pour. Do it in few words and do not.....

[Dr. A. A. Agbormbai]

Annie Mae,

Good commentary, except for this remark:

"i hate to say this but sometimes i really think cameroon would be worse if we had a northwestener for a president".

Why Northwesterner?

[Dr. Louis Mbua]

Mr. Annie Mae and the rest.

We do not give a hoot as to starting "something good". Who told you we never knew good things in West Cameroon or SC? Or who told you Southern Cameroons is alien to Human rights? We helped East Cameroonians persecuted by Ahidjo and the French. So, please stop lecturing us on what Human rights organisations do in SC. We know it. You do not need to tell us.

We do not care whether people form "international organisations" in Buea, Kumba, Victoria, Wum, Nkambe. These things are not new to English-speaking Cameroon. But do the people a favour and serve them as the CDC, Civil Service, Judiciary, PWD, PMO, WCDA, Dept of Social Security were doing from 1961 - 1972 in West Cameroon and from 1954 to 1961 in Southern Cameroons.

You should not reduce our people to "hand-clappers". We have never been hand-clappers without works. Show your work and you will be applauded. We do not clap just on the basis that SONARA has been formed in Victoria etc......

[Emmanuel ( Arizona)]

Waow!!!
Let’s take a good look at ourselves, listen to the hatred and jealousy that rules our lives.

To you Mr. Dango Tumma,

I doubt if you are a Cameroonian, but where ever you are from, is surely ravaged with Anger and jealousy because of the likes of you. Just so you know, Balla is not on his own, don’t be fooled that he does not have people looking out for him. He sticks his neck out to fight for deadbeats like you and you threaten his life? Thank God you are dump enough to make open threats like these, if anything befalls him, we know who to come after.

[Ndiks]

Hello Counterpart Fokam,how are you down there in MN?You rarely writs this time,it seems you clock 16 hours work and no time to watch TV.But you could put a lil article on postnewsline to assert ye annexasionist drive to keep holding Ambazonians prey.I hope you will not collapse when you will someday open this same blog and see headline news,Ambazonia
Freed herself from the pangs of the Brahmins in your Disunity palace.Ok.Here we go

Ambazonia (Southern Cameroons)is not RESPONSIBLE,repeat,RESPONSIBLE FOR Colonialism and the division of African borders.If you and Colonial LRC wish to exist continously as a Camerounians,then you really don't have to write anymore NONSENSE
here against Ambazonians.Hitherto,the CPDM Brahmins are yet to UNDERSTAND THE rudiments
of democracy.Yet you mentioning it as the only thing to effect change with Ricardo, where is ricardo Fokam?Ambazonia,like LRC is also,a victim of Colonialism with inherited and immutable recognized borders.Hence we will NOT,NOT,NO NO NO,NOT ACCEPT to be the BAD LOSERS OF THIS COLONIAL INHERITED BORDERS.UN resolution 1514 clearly stated that;INDEPENDENCE be GRANTED to ALL COLONIAL TERRITORIES UPON THE TERMINATION OF THE TRUSTEESHIP. Article 76b of The UN Charter (1945.6.26): The basic objectives of the trusteeship system shall be ....... towards self-government or independence. MR Fokam Your fears are that,a you may not have a place in a frre Ambazonia,and your ilks also.Your Gran Parents fled French terrorism of the UPC nationalist and were provided sanctuary in Ambazonia.They were bestowed with all the benefits of human right freedom and social life/ intergration into our Country.You will not get such benefits were you are now. They even went as far as occupying public offices.Please STOP blaming us for we are victims of crimes of some whoresons passing as brothers. Blame your brother Biya and his team of Brahmin. A lot have been said .. the great men of Louisiana may not have the magic wand to change things for the better. They will have to proof it depending on what they will have to do.There are a lot of human rights groups already existing in Ambazonia-Cameroun.I don’t think they will be much better.My beef with these lofty men is, why do they not speak to those so call officials who violate and trample on the human rights of the downtrodden?It aches a lot! Some one said they are coming to promote human rights in Cameroun,or in Ambazonia?These gentlemen should go to Yaunde and promote their lofy goals to the Brahmins of the colonial Regime. Our downtrodden have done nix wrong for some gentlemen to pack their bags and come for holiday purpoted to be for humaqn rights promotion.Are they coming with new devises and inventories? Our people know their rights and are yearning to get it back.What kind of a rights can you promote to the hapless when it is been seized by the junta?They will do us a favour if they target but the Brahmins of Yaunde and tell them their wrongs.Not our downtrodden.There are many CHRDA’s in our territory doing the same for some time now. CHRDA, please go target the Yaunde Junta.These are the real people to target,they are the ones commiting all the devilish act on our people.

Mr NAN may not be wrong to say secession is a good thing reason why we have to that Mr Fouman Akame who introduced Camerouns Bill of secession in their suicide parliament and it sail through with Law 84/001 swifly and wisely signed by the chief Brahman Mr Biya,and that culminated with Ambazonia Restoration Council (ARC).We must be thankful to that,but it has been severely fatal.Our people have been maimed,killed,executed,napalmed, abducted ,inflicted with casualities,immiserated to thisday.

CHRDA and Mr Fokam,

Law 84/01 called Restoration Law:
The constitutional mutation brought about by the United Republic of Cameroon Law 84/01 in January1984 dissolved the illegal union first called Federal Republic of Cameroon (FRC) and later United Republic of Cameroon (URC). It restored our two nations to their original position as separate and independent of each other. So by law Cameroon authority is now limited to the East of the Mongo River.
Paragraph 9 of article 1 of the Constitution of the FRC accorded
Cameroon nationality to Ambazonians only on condition that their
country became a State within the union first called FRC and then URC.
It follows that when the law 84/01 terminated the union Ambazonians lost
the constitutional right to Cameroon nationality
The European Parliament in NOV 92 ordered an inquiry into the Cameroon Presidential elections had to call it off once they found that law 84/01 had dissolved the Union which endowed Ambazonians with Cameroonian nationality.
1. Cameroon Military Tribunal Trial of Fon Fongum Gorji-Dinka in 1986: Paul Biya’s own Military Tribunal, headed by General Pierre Semengue shocked him by holding that law 84/01 has put an end to all Cameroon claims to rule Ambazonia; and so I was right to have written pamphlets asking him to quit Ambazonia.

2. High Court of Bamenda Judgment HCB/28/92: This case was won by Ambazonia when Cameroon authorities duly admitted the case and postponed it twice only to fail showing cause as demanded by the Order to Show Cause why the inserted Judgment should not hold, on and from the stipulated date. HCB/28/92 went further by getting Paul Biya to acknowledge:

A. That the nation once described as British Southern Cameroons (which with British Northern Cameroons constituted British Cameroons) is now the Republic of Ambazonia, with Fon Gorji-Dinka as its Head of State.

B. That Cameroon rule of Ambazonia is an act of continuing aggression.

C. That Cameroon must quit Ambazonia.

D. That public servants of Ambazonian origin (Civil and Military) are discharged of the duty of obedience, loyalty and allegiance they owed to Cameroon; and are thus to answer to Ambazonia and its Head of State.

3. The United Nations Human Rights Committee Judgment (UNHRC) of March 17, 2005: The UNHRC has held that the remedy to the persecution which drove Ambazonia’s Head of State Fon Gorji-Dinka into exile, lies in complying with law 84/01. The UN body then wants Cameroon to pay a compensation ($30 Million) for abuses to my person. Furthermore, the UN body demanded that Cameroon was to supply the UN with information within 90 days on the steps taken to give effect to their decision. The mandate for the enforcement of Law 84/01 is thus internationalized; and so provides legal cover to foreign nations, NGOs, Mercenaries or soldiers of fortune to intervene to put an end to Cameroon aggression on Ambazonia

Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties

Article 26 Pacta sunt servanda

Every treaty in force is binding upon the parties to it and must be performed by them in good faith.

Article 27 Internal law and observance of treaties

A party may not invoke the provisions of its internal law as justification for its failure to perform a treaty. This rule is without prejudice to article 46.

Section 2. Application of treaties

Article 28 Non-retroactivity of treaties

Unless a different intention appears from the treaty or is otherwise established, its provisions do not bind a party in relation to any act or fact which took place or any situation which ceased to exist before the date of the entry into force of the treaty with respect to that party.

Article 29 Territorial scope of treaties

Unless a different intention appears from the treaty or is otherwise established, a treaty is binding upon each party in respect of its entire territory.

Mr Fokam, it is very amusing that,after all these fact and treaties violated by the Brahmins ruling your Country and playing hell in Ambazonia, you and ilk are yet to show contrition on behalf of these Brahmins.You are yet to say your country did it wrongly.Instead you unabashly talk of democracy as the way forward.Ridiculous Fokam. We do not ACCEPT to be BAD LOSERS of colonial inherited treaties. I hope you read the small quote by Ma Mary.That small text is more vital to note.You and LRC will be brought to order,no matter how obstreperous you guys are.Right precedes mights for your clue if not,apartheid South Africa will still be there shedding peoples blood. To be continued……..

[Nji Ahmadou Njitam (NAN)]

Mr Ndiks,

Or let me use real name of yours
"Your Highness Fon Gorji Dinka, Head of State of Southern Cameroon - Ambazonia, living self exile in England".

Thank you to reveal yourself to us Majeste.

Let me state here so you do not quote me wrong again.

I will NEVER NEVER NEVER support secessionist.

I will NEVER NEVER NEVER support division of my country Cameroon.

I will fight all Francophone and Anglophone who are making my country division possible.

Once again, do not quote me wrong Majeste.

I DO NOT SUPPORT SECESSIONIST.

Thank you.

NAN...

[Nji Ahmadou Njitam (NAN)]

Your Majeste Fon Gorji-Dinka (Ndiks),

See how you reveal your identite:

"
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1. Cameroon Military Tribunal Trial of Fon Fongum Gorji-Dinka in 1986: Paul Biya’s own Military Tribunal, headed by General Pierre Semengue shocked him by holding that law 84/01 has put an end to all Cameroon claims to rule Ambazonia; and

so I was right

to have written pamphlets asking him to quit Ambazonia.
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3. The United Nations Human Rights Committee Judgment (UNHRC) of March 17, 2005: The UNHRC has held that the remedy to the persecution which drove Ambazonia’s Head of State Fon Gorji-Dinka into exile, lies in complying with law 84/01. The UN body then wants Cameroon to pay a compensation ($30 Million)

for abuses to my person.

Furthermore, the UN body demanded that Cameroon was to supply the UN with information within 90 days on the steps taken to give effect to their decision.
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"

Next time disguise better Majeste.

Thank you.

NAN...

[dango tumma]

TO ALL THOSE WHO LOVE TO CRY IN SILNCE
WHILE LA REPUBLIQUE CONTINUE ITS RAVAGES

ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

IS SESSATION EQUAL TO INDEPENDENCE?
I MEAN SOUTHERN CAMEROONS ISSUE.
TO 99% OF FRANCO-CAMEROUNESES
IT IS
BUT TO 99% OF AMBAZONIANS AND THE WORLD WHO KNOW THE HISTORY AND TRUTH , IT IS NOT.
DO THE THINKING.

[dango tumma]

IF LITTORAL DECIDES TO BE A SEPERATE
COUNTRY FROM LA REPUBLIQUE, THATS SESSATION.
BUT IF SOUTHERN CAMEROONS( NORTWEST AND SOUTHWEST) DECIDES TO BE A SEPERATE COUNTRY IT IS NOT.
IT IS CALLED INDEPENDENCE.
WHY? SINCE THIS COUNTRY WAS A SEPERATE
POLICAL COUNTRY FROM LA REPUBLIQUE, A SEPERATE PARTNER WHO CAME TOGETHER IN 1961 TO FORM A UNION. THAT FAILED. IN 1984.

[Ma Mary]

MEET THE MASSA OF THE CAMEROUNESE
He is saying, "I want nothing more to do with the Southern Cameroonians. Let 'em go!" One would have thought he had too much vin rouge.

[Andre Fokam]

Mr Ndiks
Andre Fokam is a PhD students and grad assistant in Minnesota. those who went to school in this part of the world know that this was the time of mid-term exams so i have a busy life. however, i do not hesitate to drop my opinion here whenever possible.
i respect your aspirations for freedom from oppression, after all they are universal, but i disagree totally with the way and your ideas of solutions. seperation is not the way to achieve it but genuine democracy. we have one foundamental difference: you take 1961 as the begining of our history while i go further back. you keep talking about facts but you hardly bring up facts dating prior to 1961. when you take such arbitral baseline, anyone can also decide to to take 1984 as the begining and forget all that happened prior to that time.

But if we ignore that fact, you will see that we have the same objectives!
houphouet boigny said " real independence is that free us from misery and ignorance". many African country got their independence 40 years ago and we were all happy that development will follow. but...(no comments)!

your separatists ambitions are selfish, irrealistic and time waisting! because of:
1- it goes again the current dynamics of globalization in the world, so no one will support that.
2- those clamouring seccession have never demonstrated followship through any mean so again your noise only has the effect of a drop of water on lake Nyos. as far as the world is concerned, the people you are talking for do not identify with your objectives
3- despite the noise you are making here, your legal facts are very weak and mainly based on selective history.
4- your ambitions are selfish and time waisting because they pose the minimal risk of temporarily distracting the cameroon people from their legitimate struggle for democracy, stablity and progress.

you say SC is not new to democracy, i agree, that is why i espect you guys to play democratically.
Cameroon of today is poorly managed. leading to all sorts of misery. and that should be the focus of our struggle and we shall succeed.

[Ma Mary]

Slight error NAN. You must have meant that you will NEVER NEVER NEVER support division of your country LA REPUBLIQUE DU CAMEROUN.

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER confuse that with my country THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS!

[Ma Mary]

Andre Fokam:

Let me address a couple of the points you raised:

GLOBALISATION: Occurs as a result of associations and agreements of free states, not colonisation and assimilation. The European continent, for example finally learned by end of WW2 that unity by conquest does not work. Europe has created a number of new states in the past 10 years that by separating from domination are now free to globalise. By the same token, African Union is now recognizing Somaliland Republic, formerly British Somaliland. Stop wearing blinkers like horses in the dairy farms of Wisconsin. NAN pointed these out, but you conveniently choose to ignore it.

DEMOCRACY: Democracy only works in the context of self-determination and rule of law. These are sine qua nons for a functioning democracy, otherwise, it is the Camerounese farce. Long time ago, you Camerounese and other french colonies had deputies or deputes in the French parliament. IT was representation. It looked like democracy, quacked like democracy, but the smell... It did not smell like democracy. It had the distinctive rotten egg smell of imperialism. It would only be through self ditermination that a true democracy could come to be. I have bad news for you, Fokam. You lost the war for Camerounese self determination, and your country remains in effect an unfree Bastille state, without possession of any of the instruments that allows a people to exert its will as a democracy. Your democracy is a sham, because THIS MAN and his predecessors and successors will determine your last, present and future heads of states and their policies and will override the will of your parliament. This is not our fight. This is not the devilish pact that the Southern Cameroons signed up for- we signed up for independence, not more colonization. We are saying bye bye.

DEPTH OF SUPPORT FOR SOUTHERN CAMEROONS FREEDOM: You are unable to make that determination. The only Camerounese discussing here who has any sense of what is really going on is NAN, and I would leave it at that. Every time I write here, it is not for nothing. Some new people learn and see the light, after a lifetime of stupefying propaganda a la Riccardo. A handful of us started this process about 15 years ago. We are very patient. You are wrong. You are arrogant. The law and history and the acts on the ground are not on your side. One more thing, you frogs do not understand principled action. If I were the last person standing supporting Southern Cameroons independence, I would go to my grave doing that, just because it is the right thing. You do not understand how powerful that is, to live and to die for the right thing. Until you get to understand it, you shall remain slaves and this would be your HEAVEN.

SELFISHNESS: You accuse us of selfishness? You are the ones who want our stuff - our land, our resources and are in a mad rush to lap it all up. Who is selfish? We are selfish sitting here in exile? You are a graduate student? Think. Some of us are your prize_winning professors. We could be in Yaounde today selling out our people for some little money. We make a different choice. FOR SOUTHERN CAMEROONS. Why? Because we are stupid? Get a grip, boy!

THE HISTORY IS CLEAR/ THE LAW IS ON OUR SIDE/ TIME IS ON OUR SIDE: Like your fellow gang member, Riccardo, you may have a distaste for history, but remember that it is mastery of history that allows THIS MAN and his country to rule you. Ignore history and the law at your peril.

The only person from your side who gets it is NAN. In his understanding, AN ABJECT APOLOGY FROM THE CAMEROUNESE and a return to the drawing board is essential to restore the union. In our opinion, that would have worked 15 years ago. Now it is too late.

ADIEU Monsieur FOKAM

[Andre Fokam]

Adieu Ma Mary

See you in Cameroon!!!
Delusion Delusion delusion.....

[Tobbos]

To all the petty critics,
Balla has done it again and should get thumbs up from his peers. There is no gain in comparing him to "bad" others who have set up NGOs for phoney reasons. Please let's all be respectable enough to let him do his thing first, and then criticize him when he makes mistakes in the process. I say so because he has had extensive training in international human rights and should know better than most people in that domain. Basic education requires that we respect professionals because of the skills they have acquired through learning and practice.
Know that you will be remembered for the things you do and not for the criticisms you made; because, as we all know, it is way too easy to criticize.
Please, what Balla needs is support or nothing.
Tobbos, Chicago.

[Ndiks]

Gobshite Fokam,and his cameroun siblings, when ever they lack a valid defence for their evil vices in the Southern Cameroons,they resort to petty rantings .Fokam is quoting globalisation and genuine democracy as the way forward,accusing victims as selfish.Fokam need to be told that globalisation has been existing since the time of slavery/colonialism.The movement of people from one place to the other to work njogmassi.Fokam need to be told.Fokam need to be told again that,for genuine democracy to prevail,the respect for the law,not tinkering is of the essence.How can we continue to stay under the camerounese colonial voodoo regime?Fokam's grand parents escaped njogmassi/forced labour AKA Globalisation and ran into Ambazonia led by the French.Fokam is admiring it Today.
Mr Fokam,
Ambazonia was budgetarily autonomous and had reserves invested abroad which amounted to over 180.000.000 francs CFA, as at 31/12/60. This was what we used to buy planes and establish our Airlines—Cameroon Air Transport, Cameroon Bank, West Cameroon Electricity Corporation, West Cameroon Development Agency, etc.
The Republic of Cameroon on their part was budgetarily dependent on France even up to about 1968-69!But because the British very much wanted Southern Cameroons to be part of Nigeria, they invented a story that Southern Cameroons, though it was ripe for independence, was not viable to go it alone. They had hoped that with terrorism tearing Republic of Cameroon apart, Southern Cameroons would vote in favour of Union with Nigeria rather than with Republic of Cameroon.
At the Foumban Conference the two countries were at cross-purpose on the meaning of the word re-unification.
The Republic of Cameroon believed that it meant the beginning of a new process of the annexation of the Southern Cameroons 9Ambazonia) by Republic of Cameroon. Southern Cameroons (Ambazonia) understood unification to mean full de jure independence than the de facto independence, which they had since 1-10-60. So Southern Cameroons proposed a Confederation, with dual nationality. Each State to keep his own nationality and both to enjoy a common nationality as a united country.
The Federal structure which emerged from Foumban was therefore a compromise solution. But it took pains to underline the fact that the two countries, each with a separate nationality had federated. Article 1(a) emphasized this separate nationality of each. It stated that Nationals of Southern Cameroons, shall become citizens of the Federal Republic and thus enjoy Cameroonian nationality.
But annexationist Francophone leaders have refused to respect even that compromise. Ahidjo swept it off one morning by decree, claiming that the gigantic fraud of 20th May 1972 had relieved him of treaty obligations to seek the procedure of a Federal law of Parliament procedure.
Fouman Akame, while presenting his bill for the secession of Republic of Cameroon in November 1983, declared that the word “United” was misleading people to believe that two states had been united. That, according to them, there was only a Republic of Cameroon, and Ambazonia has been part of it even before the Foumban Accord(See the Revolt of Ambazonia,By Gorji Dinka).See the gigantic Disaster caused by the Yaunde Colonial JUNTA and their moth-eaten woodentops extorting 5,5 hundred frs from our downtrodden.This talking will go on unabated and action will come amid.20TH May,one of the biggest INTERNATIONAL FRAUD is coming.It has been a yearly fanfare for the camerounese colonial plunderers and our blithely bootlickers Unfortunately.
THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES.

[dango tumma]

POKAM IS NO PHD STUDENT OR ANY STUDENT AT ALL
HE TOLD US , HE IS ONLY TWO YEARS OLD IN
AMERICA, AFTER LEAVING FRENCH CAMEROUN,
CAN ANT ONE WHO IS 27 YEARS OLD LEAVE FRENCH CAMEROUN, AND OVER NIGHT BECAME
PHD STUDENT? THATS THE TYPE OF PEOPLE AND
REASONING THESE FRANCAFRIQUE HAVE FED EVERY ONE FOR 45 YRS, ONLY LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.
MORE OVER, ANY ONE CAN GRADE HIME SELF A PHD HOLDER OR STUDENT, ALL I KNOW FROM MY
INVESTIGATION IS , ANDRE MICHEL FOKAM
RESIDES ST PAUL MINNEASOTA, HE IS 27 YRS OLD, AHVE LIVED IN US FOR 2 YRS, ON GREEN CARD VISA, AND WORKS AS AN ATTENDANT AT BURGER KING.
MY FREIND DONT ASHAME OF YOUR JOB OR WHO YOU ARE IN AMERICA, NOT EVERY ONE ENJOYS THE AMERICAN DREAM, BUT WITH TIME YOU WILL.
YOU LOVE POLITICS, ONLY , YOU CAN NEVER BECAME A GREAT POLITICIAN SINCE NONE
HAVE EVER EMERGED FROM THE FRENCH WORLD IN HISTORY.

[dango tumma]

RICARDO LAURENT,
LIVES IN HOUSTON,TX, HAVE BEEN IN USA FOR THREE YEAR, CAME HERE FROM FRAMCE VIA CANADA ON VISITOR VISA, NEVER WENT BACK
RICARDO, JAVE FINISHED HIS NINE MONTHS ENGLISH LANGUAGE SCHOOL. HE HAVE A CNA
CERTIFICATE, WORKS IN NURSING HOME.IN SUBURBAN
HOUSTON, NIGHTS.

[Ma Mary]

FOKAM:
Is that what you say when you lack arguments and counterpoints. It turns out that you are just another puppy. What a disappointment!

[Andre Fokam]

ma Mary
no time to type all i think all the time, OK. i respect you a lot because you show a lot of intelligence (unfortunately, misguided). we really want to have you in our team, so that all that zeal of yours will be useful.

Mr Dango, continue your reseaches and good luck to you. if you think 27 is too young to be in PhD, come to my school and i will show you 22 years old PhD students.

[Mac Satan]

Hello Mr Agbor Balla,
The centre is a commendable effort on your part. My advice to you:
DONOT FALL INTO THE TRAP ON THIS FORUM.
STAY AWAY FROM DISCUSSIONS ABOUT YOU ORGANISATION AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.
ONLY READ PLEASE OR YOU MAY FALL IN THAT TRAP YOU HAVENOT JUST SEEN.
Thank you.
Mac Satan

[dango tumma]

MA MARY,
WHAT DOES A 27 YEAR OLD BOY-MAN KNOWS
ABOUT THE SOUTHERN CAMEROOMS EXPERIENCE,
OR THE NATURE AND DYNAMIC OF THINGS THAT
MAKE THE WORLD AND LIFE AROUND HIM LOOK THE WAY IT DOES?
NOT MUCH, ONLY GOOD FOR SOME RESEARCH IN A LAB, FOR THAT MATTER, EVEN YOUNGEST ,BRIGHTEST
INDIAN STUDENT AT MIT, IN CAMBRIDGE MASS.
IS OLDER THAN 27, ADD UOP THE YEARS IT TAKES, AND YOU WILL KNOW , WHAT I MEAN,
IF YOU TALKING ABOUT, KANGAROO-PHDS, THATS
FINE AT UB, ONLY.

[dango tumma]

OR SOME KANGAROO, UNIVERSITY IN LOUISIANA
OR NEW ORLEANS, THATS WHERE THIS POOR
CHAP GOT HIS FROM.
THE POOREST STATE IN THE UNION.
HE SUPPOSE TO FIRST OF ALL. WORK WITH A
GOOD EXPERIENCE HUMAN RIGHT LAWYER FOR 10
YRS MINIMUM, LIKE BARRISTER TAKU, THEN AFTER GAINING GREAT DEPT AND EXPERIENCE IN HIS CHOSEN FEILD, HE CAN NOW SLAP HIS CHEST THAT I AM MASTER, I KNOW WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT, I CANNOT BE COERCE, BRIBE, INTIMIDATED, USED, BY ANY FOREIGN POWER FOR THEIR OWN GREEDY GOALS, LIKE THE AMERICANS, FRENCH ETC. AS DOUG CASSEL IS USING HIM,( I AM MY OWN MAN) BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE, THIS IS JUST A KID, WHO MAYBE, BRILLANT IN CLASS, BUT NO FEILD EXPERIENCE, WANTS TO TACKLE A HUGE ISSUE
AS HUMAN RIGHT, IN THE WORLD WORST PLACES
(AFRICA) EITHER HE WAS ILLED COACHED BY THESE DOUG CASSEL TYPE AMERICANS WHO ARE NOW NEO-COLONIAL ADVENTURERS LOOKING FRO NEW OIL-FEILDS ALONG THE CAMEROONS COAST, OR HE IS DAWN RIGHT ARROGANT AND NAIVE.
(HE WHO CANNOT BE TRUSTED IN SMALL THINGS, MUST NEVER BE TRUSTED IN GREAT ONES
ALBERT EINSTEIN)

[dango tumma]

correctio;;;;;
THE LAST POSTING IS RESPOND TO
ANDRE MICHEL FOKAM, NOT MA MARY
DANGO

[DANGO TUMMA]

paul ,boy-man biya is preparing to flee
from the presidency, and be replaced by fulbe from the nord, this action is beeing
worked out by his masters, MR HITLER-CHIRAC. THATS ACCORDING TO.http://.spcm.org/journal/IMG.article.com

[ABS]

http://www.nyos.lv/?l=2&m=1&c=8&p=1

THE DISASTROUS CONSEQUENCE OF THE REDUCTION INTO TWENTY METERS OF THE LEVEL OF THE WATER IN LAKE "NYOS" IN CAMEROON , WHICH ARE NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN REPORT ABOUT ASSESSMENT OF THE DAM ON LAKE "NYOS" BY MISSION "Joint UNEP/OCHA Environment Unit", WHO HAD VISITTED CAMEROON IN SEPTEMBER 2005.

The Reduction into 20 metres of the water level in the lake "Nyos" significantly magnifies probability of the mortal catastrophe in contrast with probability of the catastrophe in the natural conditions. The strengthening the existing dam (without reduction of the water level) on the lake "Nyos" does not magnify probability of the catastrophe.

[MarisolCOOPER23]

Various people in all countries take the personal loans from different banks, because it is easy and fast.