Cameroon Fails To Reach HIPC-I Completion Point Again

By Azore Opio

Cameroon has, once again, stumbled in its efforts to benefit from the World Bank-sponsored debt relief programme.When members of the World Bank led by its President, Paul Wolfowitz,  approved $37 billion in debt relief for 17 countries in Africa and Latin America, yesterday, April 23, Cameroon did not feature.

The World Bank member nations meeting in Washington could start forgiving debts in July.

The AP news agency reported that the 17 countries now eligible for World Bank debt relief are Benin, Bolivia, Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, Ghana, Guyana, Honduras, Madagascar, Mali, Mozambique, Nicaragua, Niger, Rwanda, Senegal, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia.

It is apparent that Cameroon has not fulfilled reform steps required to be taken before the completion point. The full debt reduction provided by the IMF, IDA and all other creditors will be delivered to Cameroon when the following conditions have been met, as part of an overall satisfactory effort to reduce poverty:

1- Poverty Reduction Strategy Paper: Completion of a full PRSP through a continued participatory process, and at least one annual implementation report of the paper, which will need broad endorsement by the Executive Boards of the IMF and the World Bank. 

2 - Social Sectors: Implementing an ambitious education strategy, including building 2,500 new classrooms; and in the health sector, including raising significantly child immunization rates to 70 percent, and increasing education and access to mosquito nets to prevent the incidence of malaria.

3 - HIV/AIDS: Concrete progress in order to prioritise the fight against HIV/AIDS in the government's overall development agenda.

4 - Macroeconomic and Structural Reforms: Continued maintenance of a stable macroeconomic environment and satisfactory implementation of a new Poverty Reduction and Growth Facility (PRGF) program administered by the IMF; and assurances that budgetary savings from interim debt relief have been used in accordance with the criteria set forth at the decision point; and satisfactory implementation of an IDA-funded adjustment reform program.

5 - Governance and Anti-Corruption: The priority strategy and action plan for improving corruption and combating corruption attached to the I-PRSP have been satisfactorily implemented, including reform in the judiciary and public procurement, and in strengthening budgetary execution and service delivery.
Courtesy World Bank

Comments

[ftroit]

This is good news to me. Some people might not think so. but i think it will cause the govt in Cameroon to embark on recuperating stolen money and on making better use of our money. We shouldn't be borrowing money anyway. Look at Nigeria, poised to settle the entirety of its international debt with the club de paris. Thatz big, big, good news, whereas Cameroon is trying to be known as a heavily indebted poor country.

[njoya]

whAT A SHAME.GET THAT GOVERNMENT OUT FOR GODS SAKE.

[Assad]

We are now finnish. This buzzards will kill us with taxes. They had budgeted alot on the debt relief. Weeeeeh, man dong die for this country. Na only God go help us now.

[Andre Fokam]

this information is incorrect. this is poor journalism form the post.
the world bank will decide on April 29th.

Andre Fokam

[neba funiba]

If this is true, readers should go back and read my write-up or the cordial exchange I had with Dr. Agbormbai when he asked a question about when Cameroon will get to the HIPC completion point. I will reserve further comments untill I confirm that the theme of this posting is true.

[OKOLLE]

Cameroon is heavily infected, what is really wrong with this country? What type of leaders are these?, they keep on borrowing money but yu don't see what is done with the money, they keep on increasing taxes but yu don't see its use, they keep on collecting money in the form of tollgates but the roads even in the cities make yu sick. What type of leaders are these without foresights? what type of leaders are these without any feelings for the future of the younger generations?

Wetin be all these? Please World bank and IMF don't borrow money again to our country.

[rexon]

Fonkam, You lack moral ethics and do not want to understand and accept the truth. You are part of a conspiracy like the world bank to colonise the southern Cameroon.
The world bank is part of the conspiracy by developed nations to colonise the southern Cameroons and other poor people in the world. Theories and ideologies they have supported have not been working in developing countries of africa. Yet they stand to defend governments that follow their soo called HIPC, etc.

Mr Director of the world bank, other workers with the world bank, etc. do tell me if you are not aware that privatisation, globalisation, democracy, socialism, human rights, etc have all been tools used by the jews and the rich to colonise the poor. When we get our independence, we will not tolerate a government that play with such words to colonise us. You have given la republique a tool called privatisation that they are using to steal our resources and sell to you and your subjects.

[Klemenceau]

To Hell with the so called HIPC-I Completion Point and I pray Cameroon’s debts should never be cancelled because doing that will never help the poor Cameroon’s. Canceling any debt is just a way to make those who have made our once fastest growing economy bleed until this point. If the so called rich countries want to help us, they should start by forcing all corrupt and wicked African leaders and politicians away from power. This is impossibility because they all know what they are gaining from these corrupt leaders.
Once more to hell with the so called HIPC-I nonsense.
Shalom
Klemenceau

[Dr. A. A. Agbormbai]

I am inclined to believe Andre Fokam in this matter (but without the negative remarks against the Post), as only three days ago I read from Cameroon Tribune that Cameroon's decision is to be made on the 27 April (not 29 as Andre stipulates).

Like Neba Funiba I shall wait until the end of the month to know the full truth. However, the indication from the Tribune article was that all of Cameroon's donors were going to vote in support of Cameroon.

If that is the case then Cameroon would reach the completion point. Personally, I think the time is right for it.

[Nji Ahmadou Njitam (NAN)]

Hello Brother and Sister,

This story support need for 4-State Federation where state control education.

Support 4-State Federation.

Support new Foumban Conference for defination of new federation.

Thank you.

NAN...

[Nji Ahmadou Njitam (NAN)]

Sorry.

Wrong story.

Thank you.

NAN....

[Babis]

Do we actually need the bloody HIPC-I in Cameroon? Is Cameroon heavily indebted and poor? The answer should be a vehement NO! What we need in Cameroon is to get rid of these incapable "leaders" who have brought Cameroon down to zero for 24 years today. One may ask the question: Who are the brains behind the world bank? Is it not the G7? Do they not have a reason for us to remain poor so they can maintain their domination on the world? Is it not thesame old dream nested by Hitler? If we follow carefully all the wars, coup d'etat(s) and rebellions in Africa today, we will come to a conclusion that the western powers and their manipulative tools (media, world Bank & IMF, NGOs etc) are taking us hostage for our natural resources (petroleum, diamond and gold etc). If you carry out a research today on war, you'll find out that everywhere in the world that there's war today, either France, USA or their MNEs are behind. Do we manufactures amunitions for war in Africa? Who does the supply? Who comes in as NGO to help & what do they acually do in the course of "helping"? Some will say they give us food & medicine, blankets, salt, H2O etc...IF WE ACTUALLY KNEW THEIR MISSION...??? WAKE UP AFRICA, WAKE UP!!! Look at Rwanda, RDC, Ivory Coast & Chad today. They will tell you they only used "un coup de semonce" to protect French Nationals-the super-beings. Could they do the contrary? How many French nationals are in Chad & what are they doing there? They do hate the use of force to take over power! YES, they do BUT who supported the rebels in Ivory coast in an attempt to evict Gbagbo by force? How did Idriss Derby come to power? Who helped cleared the way for him? They will use any means to keep us down, poor and even erase us from the face of the earth-WHY?-OUR RESOURCES.

They have the money, we've got the land and what lies beneath. BELIEVE ME OR NOT, UNTIL WE'LL HAVE EQUAL BARGAINING POWERS, WE'LL REMAIN POOR. See what Iran has done today. They can now boost, it's now they're starting to speak.When Almadhini coughs, petrol price plumbs. Wake up brothers and sisters!!!

GOD BLESS AFRICA.
Those who have eyes, make use of them!

[Sir Mukumu]

TO GOD BE THE GLORY.
I just wish and pray that Cameroon never reaches the completion point of any HIPC-I.
I know many will curse me for this but I believe I have a point.If you are one of those who want to curse me,ask yourself these questions
1)Why was Cameroon ever highly-indebted in the first place.
2)Of the people Biya arrested in an attempt to deceive the international community that he is fighting corruption,how many of them have been charged?
Cancelling Cameroon's debt is just giving room for more emblezzlement.Cameroon should learn to pay it's debt.There's more than enough money to take care of external debts if SONARA revenue is properly accounted for.

[Patrick Atem Ako]

Andre Fokam and Dr Agbormbai, your reputations are on the line. If the WB does not declare completion on Saturday April 29th then you will have some explaining to do.

Cameroonians typically can be arrogant and mistakenly believe in a higher superiority that merits a separate consideration.

Remember the primary school trick of failed pupils "...em, the teacher withheld my report card". The Paul Biya regime has simply failed to attain the HIPC completion point again. The Post is right.

While the regime has prosecuted magistrates and offered an offending Fon Doh to the dogs, there has been no attempt to root out endemic corruption at the port of Douala.

The regime was slow to arrest the corrupt boss of FEICOM and has placed too many ex-officials in gallows instead of trying them in courts of law. That is very controversial and dictatorial.

[rexon]

Patrick Atem Ako,

Dont blame this poor guys, Andre Fonkam and Dr Agbormbai. They have nothing to offer in this forum. Do you think any rightminded Cameroonian can even read Cameroon tribune? That shows where they belong, traitors.

[dango tumma]

ANDRE FOOOKAAAMMM
FUKAM BAMILKONG, TU NE COMPREND RIEN BATARD
SALOUPARD COME TOI
FAGGOT LIKE U. SHIT NO CLEAN LASS

[dee]

World Bank: Full Debt Cancellation Approved For Some Of The World’s Poorest Countries



Press Release No:2006/370/PREM

Contacts:

Amy Stilwell 202-458-4906

[email protected]

Christian Hofer 202-458-0936

[email protected]

WASHINGTON, April 21 - The World Bank announced today that the Multilateral Debt Relief Initiative has been approved, clearing the way for cancellation of International Development Association (IDA) debt to some of the world’s poorest countries.

Starting on July 1, 2006, IDA is expected to provide more than US$37 billion in debt relief over 40 years.

“We have secured the total votes necessary to enact the Multilateral Debt Relief initiative,” said World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz. “Countries will now be able to put more resources into programs that directly help those who need it most - the poor who need better education, better health services and greater access to clean water, for example.”

Voting on the initiative remains open until April 28.

Background:

At the July 2005 G8 Summit in Gleneagles, Scotland, G8 leaders pledged to cancel the debt of the world’s most indebted countries, most of which are located in Africa. Debt cancellation will be provided by the International Development Association IDA of the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund and the African Development Fund to countries that have graduated (called reaching the “completion point”) from the Enhanced Heavily Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC) Initiative.

Initially, 17 HIPC countries will be eligible for 100 percent debt cancellation: Benin, Bolivia, Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, Ghana, Guyana, Honduras, Madagascar, Mali, Mozambique, Nicaragua, Niger, Rwanda, Senegal, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia. Mauritania has completed the HIPC program, but will qualify for relief after implementing key public expenditure management reforms. The remaining HIPC countries (see attached chart) will be eligible for debt cancellation once they have completed the requirements of the HIPC Initiative.

Donors have agreed to a financing package that calls for additional donor contributions over time to ensure delivery of fresh resources for poverty reduction. Compensatory financing over the duration of the cancelled loans will be based on strong indicative pledges already made, and donors are undertaking the necessary steps in their home countries to provide their financing commitments.

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For more information on debt relief, please visit
www.worldbank.org/debt

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[Nkosi Jacob]

FOR HUMANITARIAN REASONS GIVE US THE COMPLETION POINT!!

In view of the above cited points by Azore Opio I want to state the following: that Cameroon with the current class of politicians and managers would never carry out reforms satisfactorily as recommended by the IMF & IDA. They have proven their best at failure but are now turning to a new leaf. Therefore for HUMANITARIAN reasons let the whiteman allow Cameroon to reach the completion point. Atleast for the sake of the suffering and asphixiated masses who are barely breathing!
In any case the current World Bank/IMF summit is still going on and I prefer to wait until the 29th.

[Mama Knack]

For once Andre Fokam is right! Cameroon's case goes before the WB and donor nations on April 29th.

This is the second time in as many weeks that The Post has missed the boat - last week it was the bogus news about new ambassadors, and now we're being served with this weird analysis about HPIC...

[Andre Fokam]

Some people are in opposition by nature and not by reason.
i don't blame people on this forum who wish the completion point is never attained, the poor management record of our government justify their fear. but instead of crying over spilled milk, i think we've gotten to a point where a significant debt relief is needed, cos what is the point of repaying a debt that did not benefit the people? mind you it is the people's money that is used to pay that debt (through high taxes). Even if the fall out are mismanaged once more, at least it will be a relief to the people as the fiscal and tax pressure will be lightened. there is always a last chance and i think this should be our last chance, this time around, the donors have put stringent rules for the use of money to be sure that the masses benefit from it.

the WB will meet over Cameroon case on April 27th, hopefully with a positive outcome.

Rexon, i read from as many sources as possible to have fair analysis of every topic, i think it is myopic to look only one way and it may lead to Obscurantism.

Andre Fokam

[Akoson]

LET'S NOT SHY AWAY FROM A LEGITIMATE CLAIM THE SCNC HAS.

...If we don't do it now, we're only forcing ourselves drunk and shifting the problem ahead...our kids MUST do it...TRUTH NEVER DIES!!!

Rexon,

I do support Babis's contribution in all its entirety. The world's "rulers" have always wanted to be supreme and trample on us. That's why they're scared of China's quick growth and they're hitting their heads and calling for friendships. That's why they'll never see good thing in resolving conflicts peaceful. I hope and pray that a peaceful Cameroon be torne apart by war. I have actually studied and researched on Southern Cameroon's claim. These western powers too have done. The truth's clear. They all know it. BUt the sad news is that they're pulling their legs so that a war could be possible. They feel loath to separate us peacefully. THEY WANT WAR! Most people fail to understand that.

In America we can afford to trust, to some extent, the judiciary but trusting the executive is suicidal. The executives of America and many European powers understand the legitimacy of the SCNC struggle and afre well placed to positively intervene. Yet they fold their arms and sit quiet as though nothing is going on. This is too sad! If they think the SCNC claim is not justifiable then why does a certain judicial system in the concerned western countries and many more grant asylum to SCNC activitists?

My solution to this somewhat everlasting and very pertinent problem worth damaging our great continent for millenia, is that we must learn to eat with the devil with a long spoon just the way China's doing. I rest my case.

Once again, I advocate for secession but in a peaceful fashion. However, if the hard way is the only way then let it be - if we can afford to be that selfish by denying to sacrifice and die for our future generation(with population much more than what we're now), then that's shear naivity. I want us to note that the SCNC case is a legitimate issue...the truth. The truth NEVER dies. If WE FAIL TO DO IT, OUR CHILDREN WILL BRING BACK THESAME ISSUE IN THE FUTURE. So we're only getting drunk and pushing the problem forward. It doesn't help!

Rexon, your team needs more work. Infact I think that the lobying force of present SCNC leadership needs much be desired.

I'm afraid the points may disjointed and may not be in a convincing fashion. I JUST BURST OUT OF ANGER.

.

[Akoson]

LET'S NOT SHY AWAY FROM A LEGITIMATE CLAIM THE SCNC HAS.

...If we don't do it now, we're only forcing ourselves drunk and shifting the problem ahead...our kids MUST do it...TRUTH NEVER DIES!!!

Rexon,

I do support Babis's contribution in all its entirety. The world's "rulers" have always wanted to be supreme and trample on us. That's why they're scared of China's quick growth and they're hitting their heads and calling for friendships. That's why they'll never see good thing in resolving conflicts peaceful. I hope and pray that a peaceful Cameroon be torne apart by war. I have actually studied and researched on Southern Cameroon's claim. These western powers too have done. The truth's clear. They all know it. BUt the sad news is that they're pulling their legs so that a war could be possible. They feel loath to separate us peacefully. THEY WANT WAR! Most people fail to understand that.

In America we can afford to trust, to some extent, the judiciary but trusting the executive is suicidal. The executives of America and many European powers understand the legitimacy of the SCNC struggle and afre well placed to positively intervene. Yet they fold their arms and sit quiet as though nothing is going on. This is too sad! If they think the SCNC claim is not justifiable then why does a certain judicial system in the concerned western countries and many more grant asylum to SCNC activitists?

My solution to this somewhat everlasting and very pertinent problem worth damaging our great continent for millenia, is that we must learn to eat with the devil with a long spoon just the way China's doing.

Once again, I advocate for secession but in a peaceful fashion. However, if the hard way is the only way then let it be - if we can afford to be that selfish by denying to sacrifice and die for our future generation(with population much more than what we're now), then that's shear naivity. I want us to note that the SCNC case is a legitimate issue...the truth. The truth NEVER dies. If WE FAIL TO DO IT, OUR CHILDREN WILL BRING BACK THESAME ISSUE IN THE FUTURE. So we're only getting drunk and pushing the problem forward. It doesn't help!

Rexon, your team needs more work. Infact I think that the lobying force of present SCNC leadership needs much be desired. I rest my case.

I'm afraid the points may be disjointed and may not be in a convincing fashion. I JUST BURST OUT OF ANGER.

Twisted-Thinking Forehead, Son Of Ako - London School Of Economics And Political Science.

.

[Akoson]

Excuse me,...THEY HOPE AND PRAY THAT A PEACEFUL CAMEROON BE TORNE INTO WAY.

[Ashwell Molaba]

We should all wait for the end of this week to hear our fate. If Cameroon fails again, it would be a sad day for poor Cameroonians. I personally loath the fact that my family and many other poor Cameroonians have had to pay back money borrowed by Ahidjo and co. Some people claim that this money provided me with a good free education. But may be that was just to blind me to how much was being stolen from us. In any case, reaching the completion point may save poor people from a heavy tax burden. But not reaching it may awaken people from their slumber. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Rexon,

Please refrain from insulting people. If these people who read Cameroon Tribune are wrong, we will find out next week. If they are right, then you would have thrown out unnecessary insults.

Akoson,

Does the devil speak with a forked tongue? How we have changed! Boy, I never know what you are saying or where exactly you stand.

Quoting Akoson:

"Once again, I advocate for secession but in a peaceful fashion."

Is that from the same SDF stalwart who has something in his pocket called the "TRUTH"?

[Legima Doh (LD)]

La Republique's uphill task now is to use her skillfulness in corruption and hocus pocus to attain the HIPC completion point.
But I am unoblivious that such will only be a futile attempt as far as these International Regulatory bodies are concerned.Instead,the debts of LRC have been underestimated and will have to be reconsidered so as to properly account for the myriad debts she owes the Southern Cameroons after looting her resources for close to half a century which culminated in the destruction of all her valuable commercial entities.She will also be charged by the ICJ for blatant abuse of human rights and criminal homicide of the Southern Cameroonians.Nothing good can emanate Biya and LRC.He and his regime represents the most macabre of governance.

[rexon]

Ashwell,

Someone here (Dr Agbormbai) Reads Cameroon tribune.

The biggest embarassment i have got from this forum is to read from Dr Agbormbai that he reads Cameroon tribune.

Even in the early 90's, rightminded Citizens of la republique du cameroun have come to the understanding that writings in Cameroon tribune do not serve any course other than acting as a CPDM propaganda machine. Then it amazes me seeing someone lended telling people openly in this forum how he read something from Cameroon tribune. Honestly, i have lost "ALL RESPECT" for that elderly man. He really needs some moral purification. I want to really believe that he has been socked into the conspiracy to colonise the southern Cameroons in such a way that he does not even understand what to read to get a clear picture of the situation in even la republique du cameroun. Reading Cameroon tribune? is genuinely a crime before the almighty God. I rest my case.

I am sorry if my reaction has been judged as some form of abuse. That is not my character (to disrespect people) and i am sorry.

Andre Fonkam,

if you are alse reading this demonic newspaper, then know that you will surely not be forgiven by the almighty God.

[KK]

I PRAY CAMEROON SHOULD NEVER REACH THE HIPC COMPLETION POINT. NO GOOD CAME OUT OF THE BORROWED MONEY FIRST OF ALL SO WE EXPECT NO GOOD TO COME OUT OF THE CANCELLATION OF THE DEBT. OUR LEADERS ARE CORRUPT AND WILL CHOP UP ALL THERE IS BEHIND CANCELLATION OF THE DEBT; UNLESS THEY ARE ALL PULLED OUT, WE REMAIN DOOM FOR LIFE; MY POOR FATHERLAND.

[Akoson]

Mr. Ashwell,

My stand is crystal clear. What truth are you talking about??? Do you want me to repeat a thousand times that the SCNC has a legitimate claim whether we like it or not? Do you want to hear me re-iterate that the SDF was formed out of the frustration of the excessive marginalisation and subjurgation of Anglophones?(Remember however that it's NOT an anglophone party but don't forget that marginalisation was the very reason for its creation).

I should rather be the one to ask your stand.

Now get this clear...SDF or no SDF the SCNC is a legitimate struggle whether we like to acknowledge it or not. And be sure that inorder to balance the equation in Cameroon, we need a federated state when we take over power(I'm talking from the perspective as a militant of the SDF). Note that it is only a month ago I decided to join the party. But I'd been an SCNC activist for ages. Infact, all anglophones are SCNC activists...EVN YOU! With a Federated system in place the SCNC struggle'll become a thing of the past cos everyone will be contented(again I'm talking from the perspective as an SDF militant)... Becasue some people are bent that an anglophone will NEVER rule Cameroon, what do you want us to do? Don't be hasty to term me a confusionist as you always criticis me...understand that I'm a man of principles and I'm never afraid to make my mind clear on the side where I belong. I'm NOT an AKONTEH...This is AKOSON! I BELONG TO THE SCNC. We're just playing with time as far as the SDF is concerned. Atleast, we're using it FOR THE MOMENT to neutralise the evil regime of invaders and occupying forces. In more simple terms; I'M MAKING HAIL WHILE THE SUN SHINES. As soon as things are ripe for the SCNC then we'll sing Alleluyiah.

I hope I did answer your question rightly.

Ruffled Lion's Mane, Son Of Ako - LSE.

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[rexon]

Ngum,

Can you please lead me to some of Dr susungi's work or his internet site. I am writing a book on central african banking and think writings like this will be of great help. Unfortunately, it is not everytime that we can have such materials posted here.

Thanks and hoping to read from you.

[Dr. A. A. Agbormbai]

Andre,

Thanks for the extra information. For the past three months the talk has been of how to handle the post-completion-point period, and it is the international community that has been making all the noises about this. This presupposes that Cameroon will achieve the completion point this time, so I am positive about this.

I am also happy that the international community took my advice (from a commentary I gave earlier this year) to ensure that the money is not misused this time, by delineating the type of expenditures on which it is to be used.

If the year continues for Cameroon as it has been going then the international community will end up being the star of the year for Cameroon.

[stephen nigzegah njuafed]

This information sounds very pathetic and i feel like crying for those who are living in Cameroon without even a relative abroad who can once in a while send some few hard currencies to salvage the already damaged situation in Cameroon.

[Ashwell Molaba]

Akoson,

Fortunately you did answer my question. In fact, I expected no other answer than the one you have given. Although, I must reiterate that you are completely wrong in calling yourself a man of principles and all the other accolades you give yourself.

PART I

Quoting Akoson

"I'm NOT an AKONTEH...This is AKOSON! I BELONG TO THE SCNC. We're just playing with time as far as the SDF is concerned."

I dare say anyone who reads that will see that you speak with a forked tongue, young man. May be we should forward that particular statement to the SDF rulers you spoke to. Let them see what their newest member thinks. The SCNC if you do not know it is fundamentally different from the SDF. The SCNC stands for an independent Ambazonia, nothing less. Not a Federation like they were decieved in 1961. No. If you are riding on the SDF's back, then I fail to see how you are different from Akonteh.

PART II

No one has ever doubted that the SCNC has a legitimate claim. Documents have been presented even at the United Nations on this issue. Most of these documentation are public knowledge. So, to all of a sudden declare that and claim to have the "TRUTH" is.............. Go figure!

PART III

While you are busy "making hay (not HAIL) while the sun shines" your country is being sold to the dogs. And then you wake up and start shouting insults and conspiracy theories at the thieves. They don't hear you because they are too rich and powerful to care about you. Then you get too frustrated you go back to flogging another dead horse you choose to ride on. That my friend is what I called a confused man.

PART IV

What does Ashwell Molaba stand for? You have asked. I have said it before and I say it again, we should stop this back and forth matches. We should apply our minds in diagnosing our problems, so that we can find better solutions. Our problems are not caused by individuals but by our inability to transform our glorious ideas into action. While we are busy bashing each other people are doing things. There are two kinds of people, those who talk about doing things and those who do things. I am afraid Cameroonians are busy talking about doing things. The few who choose to do anything, are busy preaching tribalism, and the rest of us watch the Ebai Jameses of this world and fold our arms singing the praises of Fru Ndi or Ngwasiri. And you ask me what I stand for? I stand for getting a critical number of people who have lost the confusionist syndrome to act.

[Ashwell Molaba]

Dr A. A. Agbormbai,

Andre Fokam,

I have been honestly waiting for something positive from you, our eminent doctor in the house. Once again you got it completely wrong. Please Dr A. A. Agbormbai can you read the posting by "dee" above? If
it does not satisfy you, go to http://www.worldbank.org and follow the links. May be that will help you stop making an idiot of yourself. No committees are taking your comments into consideration.

Rexon,

Sorry my brother. May be you should throw my insults these guys way. Cameroon Tribune and whatever nonsense they read has been lying to them. It says so very clearly on the World Bank website. Cameroon failed to make the list. The only country that made it but was still waiting for implementation of certain policies is Mauritania. Cameroon is no where on that list. The decision was made on the 21st of this month. No meetings will be held on the 27th or 29th (Saturday) especially for Cameroon.

[Vally]

Let me add that the 'cfa franc'has been of tremendous value to the french economy,france get for every 1000frs cfa spend within the zone, 10 frs cfa.

Secondly, the french managed the cfa zones economy,she fixed interset rates,make foreign currency dominoin paynents on behalf of any franc zone country.E.g France will pay on behalf of cfa zone all foreign payment to say Japan and do the reconciliation later.In most cases in exchanged for raw materials at double market value.

The french fought the Germans tooth and nail to move all operations from the former french central bank to the french treasury concerning the cfa zones and have kept this very secret.

A commission is being set up by others EU countries to fine out why these complex relation kept so secret by the french.

More no this later.

[rexon]

Ashwell,

I think you have good ideas.

Can you tell us clearly where you really belong.

[Ashwell Molaba]

I Ashwell Molaba,

Belong to the total emancipation of Cameroonian people. Every single organisation or party or grouping of people that has stood has fallen woefully. The tragedy of this world is that those who stand up vigorously for their rights fall down miserably at their duties. I therefore belong to no grouping of people, no party (political or apolitical), no tribe etc. I belong to Cameroon. I recognise the ills and the sufferings of the people. And while I speak about this, I do everything possible to make a difference in at least one Cameroonian's life. That is my motto. And I have suggested it to Akoson. Please send fifty pounds a month to a child in Cameroon that you do not know. Pick a school, send the kid through that school. Don't give money where it can be wasted. Send it to the school and give the kid an allowance. Or use whatever method you choose to make a difference in someone's life. Let us start the chain. One day freedom will come.

[rexon]

Ashwell,

That is a very good idea.

Honestly, dont get me wrong, i do like you. That is really what i want to stand for the rest of my life. but again, i believe that i am being colonised. So i try to merged the two. Remember, i always tell you that i have friends who are citizens of la republique du cameroun. I try to engage them but find it impossible to understand why they think i must remain an underdog. So to say, i stand for some of the ideologies you listed above, but still believe i have a moral responsibility to fight for the liberation of my people, the southern cameroons.

[Ashwell Molaba]

Dr A. A. Agbormbai,

After all the mumbo-jumbo about the international community taking your advice; and the wonderful retrogressive (thanks Emah) bilingualism hogwash, you have nothing to say about the World Bank report? Have you read it? Do you now admit Cameroon Tribune lied to you? Please call a meeting of Andre Fokam and Mama Knack to clarify the issue for us. We await the enlightened doctor's vivews. And if that does not work, I am sure Rexon will willingly offer you some help.

BTW! Before I forget, we are brainstorming on the best possible route that Cameroon in dire straits should take. Don't waste yur advice on the international community, please end it our way.

[Ashwell Molaba]

Rexon,

I believe in the natural order of things. A lion has no choice but to eat a gazelle. To a lion, that is food. No matter how much we love the gazelle and want to preserve it; we must not forget that the lion depends on it. If you slap me, I will slap you back or hate you. If you take my food, I will go hungry and may steal. Things happen the way, they must happen. Colonised people will fight for their freedom. No matter what the coloniser does; they will stand up one day or the other. It is the natural order of things. So, all I ask is we all each do our little bit to educate people to make informed choices. Don't choose for anybody. But make sure he/she has enough information to make the correct choice. That is my position.

[Tim]

Thanks Rexon.

Cameroon Tribune is not a newspaper. It has previously been described as a propagandizing "fib'une" of the regime masquerading as a newspaper. I call it "pravda" of Communist USSR.

This paper has some of the most paper-certified journalists in Cameroon, none of whom has ever published a novel. They earn good pay to oil government lies and do not even have an active website let alone seek online debates.

The paper frankly speaking should be privatized to face the music.

[Tayong(Copenhagen)]

Can someone help me out? Guys if you agree with me there is an anglophone problem(no matter how you think it should be solved) please I may solicitate even in English from you a comment at Cameroon-info.net .There is an article that has been published about the dangers of Paul Biya's sudden death if it happens. I have left a comment there that has infuriated all francophone ,I said the first danger will be the anglophone problem that will spark off.
The whole forum is on my head.Can someone here back me up?Remember you might not be a supporter of SCNC ,for i too may not,but if you agree there is an anglophone problem please do leave a comment there and let these francophones know we are united .

God save Cameroon
Tayong

[Monnaire]

Hey for all those who doubt the credibility of this information,Ill refer you to
http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=1143951248
Pls learn to be informed for if u are not,then u are deformed.Do not conclude based on the gov't press in Cameroon cos they lack the equipments even to bring up to date information to the masses.

[pat]

The Post commits another journalistic gaffe!
I hope we get an apology soon. This story's headline and content is a bad case of "cut and paste." and just lack of comprehension.

Please analyze the case of Senegal in regard to HIPC to get a better understanding of the WB press release.
Voting on the initiative remains open until April 28

[massamoyo]

Tayong,

Sir allow ine with this your too much '....God help Cameroon....'
I do beleuve in God but before then let us try to help our motherland Sothern Cameroon then God will help us.

[Tayong(Copenhagen)]

Massamoyo
No way ,thats my moto.not God help Cameroon but God save Cameroon.If u dont see it know that this nation is at the verge of catastrophy.sleep and slumber

God save Cameroon
Tayong

[Akoson]

Hey Ashewell!

Get things straight once and for all...but before I say something you can forward my message to the SDF hierachy. Is it a threat or something?

Maybe I was too hasty to have made that statement. It should rather be "I'm just playing for time as far as the SDF is concerned."

What you must understand is that you hold your ideas very dear...so do I. Three passions simple but overwe=helmingly strong govern my life. Two are incredible confidential while the other is for everybody - my love for humanitarianism. This is the second time you're challenging me to sponsor a Cameroonian child. I therefore feel an urge to talk back on this issue. I'm the Founding Father and Honorary permanent board Chairman of the Africa Humanitarian Foundation. It's a newly founded international NGO with headquarters in Lime, Cameroon. Our thematic scope's Africa. However, charity begins at home. Have I how told you that I don't ONLY help one or two Cameroonians but more 100 at a time? Remove the log of wood from your eye and then you'll see the dust in my eye.

It's superfluous and I think it's irresponsible to CAPITALISE on minor typing errors one makes here. You can realise that I posted about trying to correct an error which still had one. Concentrate on issues and stop AD HOMINEM.

And whether you like it or NOT I'm a man of principles. I state without mincing words my stand and I've said it. YOu mat differ...I respect your opinion but I think that I'm left with the hectic task of forcing you understand the importance of your identity which, ofcourse, will be done in no distant future from now. MARK MY WORDS!

Twisted-thinking Forehead, Son Of Ako - LSE.

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[Akoson]

Hey Ashewell!

Get things straight once and for all...but before I say something you can forward my message to the SDF hierachy. Is it a threat or something?

Maybe I was too hasty to have made that statement. It should rather be "I'm just playing for time as far as the SDF is concerned."

What you must understand is that you hold your ideas very dear...so do I. Three passions simple but overwhelmingly strong govern my life. Two are incredible confidential while the other is for everybody - my love for humanitarianism. This is the second time you're challenging me to sponsor a Cameroonian child. I therefore feel an urge to talk back on this issue. I'm the Founding Father and Honorary permanent board Chairman of the Africa Humanitarian Foundation. It's a newly founded international NGO with headquarters in Lime, Cameroon. Our thematic scope's Africa. However, charity begins at home. Have I how told you that I don't ONLY help one or two Cameroonians but more 100 at a time? Remove the log of wood from your eye and then you'll see the dust in my eye.

It's superfluous and I think it's irresponsible to CAPITALISE on minor typing errors one makes here. You can realise that I posted about trying to correct an error which still had one. Concentrate on issues and stop AD HOMINEM.

And whether you like it or NOT I'm a man of principles. I state without mincing words my stand and I've said it. YOu mat differ...I respect your opinion but I think that I'm left with the hectic task of forcing you understand the importance of your identity which, ofcourse, will be done in no distant future from now. MARK MY WORDS!

Twisted-thinking Forehead, Son Of Ako - LSE.

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[rexon]

Thanks Ngum,

I have tried to search about him on google and other sites, i see a summary of some of his works at a link in the penn state univerisity and other sites. I thought he was an active academic researcher, but he seems to be involved in writings and working with other international organisations. I will keep searching, but if you have any valuable information, you can get to me at [email protected]
Bye and thank you.

[Aaron Nyangkwe]

I belief that Azoro wrylly misinterpreted the information from the World Bank release. The name of the countries he cited as having attained completion point this time around are those that attained it after the Glenn Eagle summit and are expecting the completion point.
Those that are in the same soup as Cameroon and expecting to reach completion point are Burundi, Chad, Democratic Rep. of Congo, Congo Brazzavile, Gambia, Guinea Guinea Bissau, Malawi, Sao Tome and Principe and Sierra Leone. surprisingly, none of these countries following The Post report has qualified. This sounds so surprising, not so? That all the countries that failed last time do fail again.
I understand that Cameroon's performance towards attaining the achievement point has been bismally poor due to poor leadership, no decision has been taken yet. If there is no politicking in the whole affair, Cameroon, under her current leadership cannot and will not qualify. What measures are being taken towards attaining this objective? Concretely none, except for haphazard measures left and right. So, if on April 28, you learn that Cameroon has qualify, just understand that it is part of the Western world economic politics.
That is it.

[Aaron Nyangkwe]

Sorry, I meant achievement point and not completion point in reference to those on the same list like Cameroon.
Pls bear with me.

[Andre Fokam]

Time will be our best judge Mr. Rexon
if comes end of April, and no decision is made, i will publically apologise to you and the post.
hope you will have the humility to do so too if i am right.
i don't need to paste all the links here but check the WB, IMF website and you will see by yourself, there is even a HIPC website!
search my brother

[rexon]

Fonkam,

You should go and contribute your opinions at Camerooninfo net. You do not belong here and i hope you understand. We are not fools in this current time. Hope you understand me. I am not a tribalist but you should not take the southern cameroons and southern cameroonian for fools. We have a life and need to protect our future.

Your fellow tribesmen ask me when i tried to engage some of them yesterday that they dont know what southern cameroonians want. Then i see here that some of you guys are trying to mock our southern cameroonian freedom. We need our liberation and you must respect that. We are southern Cameroonians with no future and you must respect our values and ways of life. You have not objectively addressed any southern Cameroonian problem in this forum.

Do you, Dr Agbormbai, Ricardo, want to argue that you do not know of all the conspiracy to destroy our future? You do not know of the mafia going on in commonwealth scholarships, Dont you know about the conspiracy to destroy southern cameroonian companies at the advantage of bamilikie businessmen in the east of the moungo? Dont you know how our poor parents are suffering in the plantations and la republique du camerouns leaderships shares their proceeds in a disguised company name called CAMFRUIT (CAMEROON FRUIT COMPANY)? Dont you know of the different conspiracies to humiliate us by the current leadership of la republique du cameroun? Dont let me start writing names here for you to take advantage of that and brand me with your "Choice of words", triblist.

There are families and individuals who have benefitted from the alleged conspiracy to destroy the future of southern cameroonians and we shall not allow our future generations to suffer. whatever people say, we shall use every weapon to defend ourselves if the international community does not want to resolve the matter peacefully. Do you think we are fools?

[Andre Fokam]

Rexon
i will stop writing here when the post management will tell me they are a southern cameroonian newspaper, until then i know i am free to write here. period.
the scnc has a website and probably you should consider limiting yourself to their website.
as far as i know, i am concerned by what happen in garoua, ebolowa, ekondo-titi, yaounde. i am a Cameroonian. period.
all others others adjectives you give yourself only concern you.
"no one can make you feel inferior without your consent"

bye for now, my CAMEROONIAN BROTHER

Andre Fokam

[Akoson]

BREAKING NEWS...BREAKING NEWS!!!

FRU NDI CAUTIONS AGAINST BLACKMAIL IN THE SDF

The National Executive Committee (NEC) members last Saturday in Bamenda assessed preparations toward the SDF convention.

The National Chairman of the Social Democratic Front (SDF), Ni John Fru Ndi has called on the SDF militants to stop the practice of blackmail and work for the progress of the party. He made the declaration last Saturday, April 22 in Bamenda during the National Executive Committee (NEC) meeting aimed at assessing the state of preparedness of the various committees charged with the organization of the national elective convention slated for May 26 to 28, 2006.

Ni John Fru Ndi frowned at some barons of the SDF who instead of working for the unity of the party, were fanning the flames of disunity by indulging in acts of blackmail. He cited three cases. He said that while in London, he received several phone calls from the country that some group of persons were about burning-down his compound in Ntarikon which was false information coming from some party members. Secondly, during a trip in Yaounde, a white lady of French nationality met him and begged him to resign from the helm of the party. When he carried out investigations, he found out the instigator. Fru Ndi also disclosed that recently, an SDF Member of Parliament came twice to tell him that he has a vision. This vision, he said was that Fru Ndi should resign from his position as SDF chairman.

It was in this same light that Hon. Jua Paulinus, made his position clear. According to the Member of Parliament from Boyo and aspirant for the post of chairman in the up-coming election, he has never belonged or supported the activities of the Ngwasiri faction. The SDF, he said was a party of law, and those who ascend to positions of responsibility must do so in respect of the constitution in place. The NEC members also tackled problem where some party barons from the West Province refuted allegations that they held a secret meeting to lobby for influential positions within the party.

With regards to the organization of the up-coming elective convention, the President of the organizational committee, Atekwana Joseph, said everything is going on as planned. The various committees are afoot especially that of finance where an additional CFA 3 million has trickled in from the various delegations making the total sum to CFA 20 million. He also revealed that, payments have already been made for the Bamenda Congress Hall where the national convention will take place.

By Eldickson Agbortogo

From ;http://allafrica.com/stories/200604250655.html.
April 25, 2006. Posted to the web April 25, 2006.

SON OF AKO, LSE.

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[Ashwell Molaba]

Akoson,

First and foremost, I did not threaten to report you to the SDF hierachy. I simply brought the matter to your conscience. And I sincerely hope you do not brush it under the carpet. Let you conscience be your judge.

Secondly, I have often confronted you and others about singing your own praises. Your conscience is your only judge. You are Akoson, the best judge of your own character. No matter what I think of you, you will be who you are. Whatever, your right hand does for Cameroon and Cameroonians, let your left hand never know about it. I only challenge you to do something because, you stand on tree tops shouting about fasting and similar useless endeavours. I gave you clear examples from the Bible that state unequivocally that fasting is not going without food.

Thirdly, you would notice that I always separate issues into point form. This is so as not to confuse myself and you in the process. Please explain to, what it is that I must get straight once and for all? Your posting above does not state it. I pointed to the apparent contradiction in support of the SDF on one hand, while flirting with the SCNC on the other. That is political prostitution of the highest order.

Furthermore, Akoson, you may be a man of principle. What I argue against is you saying you are a man of principle while displaying lack of principle in the process. If your principles are confidential, let them forever remain so. Do not use a public forum to say you have principles, then in the same breath say but these principles are secret.

I have previously admitted guilt in correcting language mistakes. In your case, I did not correct any language mistakes. I simply pointed out that a phrase you used should have "HAY" and not "HAIL". Now, that is not a typing error. It is common mistake. I do not correct you to ridicule you but so you do not make the same mistake next time. Everyone is liable to mistakes. I hope you will correct me too.

Lastly, Akoson, in all my contributions in this forum, I have voiced the fact that Cameroon has problems. I have stated that Cameroon needs a good number of people who can identify correctly, the causes of our problems. And a good number of people with the courage to offer lasting solutions to these problems. On these matters, I have said that, we need everyone on board. I have spoken against you and against many other people. I have said, we should not waste our time singing our own praises or the praises of our political party faction. I have called on people to wake up and see that most institutions in Cameroon have failed the people. What therefore is the way forward? The question we all need to brainstorm on. I rest my case.

[Ashwell Molaba]

Andre Fokam,

Please can you provide us with sources of information to clarify this issue. Did The Post get it wrong or did Cameroon Tribune get it wrong. I am humbly willing to offer you an apology. But why are your colleagues of this view point in hiding? Dr A. A. Agbormbai and Mama Knack seem to have disappeared.

Secondly, I do not share Rexon's views on French speaking Cameroonians. I am a Cameroonian (speak both English and French) with my parentage from the former British Southern Cameroons. I believe in the humanity of every human being, including Adolf Hitler. Human beings make mistakes but it does not stop them from being human. To cut a long story short, your contributions are valuable. I am in no way comparing you to Adolf Hitler. I just want to say, the biggest contributor to world peace today in my view is Adolf Hitler. He alone showed us the worst war can offer, and scared us all from a war of such magnitude. He exposed the failures of the League of Nations, and gave us a body that has stood the test of time in the United Nations. We need every Cameroonian.

[Akoson]

Mr. Ashwell,

Thank you for the talk back. This is one of the best piece I'm getting from you. Atleast it gives me the courage and ambition to sit comfortably, and without a clouded mind as to who the person is, react nicely with rush. I now feel I'm corresponding to a MAN.

Firstly, a typing error is a mistake.

Secondarily, when I say get something straight once and for all I was referring to the numberous occassions when you've challenged me to sponsor a kid from home. The gettin things straight once and for all was letting you understand that I'm an active player in the humanitarian world...something you NEVER knew. Hope you've now got it once and for all. Also note that when I said that I wasn't blowing my own trumpet and that this aspect of mind is not confidential. The other ones I didn't state are confidential. NO ONE CAN EVER FORCE ME SAY A CONFIDENTIAL THING!

Thirdly, when I call myself principled person I don't think that I'm beating my chest. I just want readers to understand that I've got a comprehensive and fundamental law, doctrine, or assumption I hold dear to. One of such is my Christian belief...another one's my right to belong both to the SCNC and the SDF. Except the SDF leadership tells me NO...I've to choose one, then will I knwo where to go. Calling me a political prostitute is an overstatement. I beg that you withdraw it. I'm NOT in the SDF or SCNC for selfish interests or gains. I'm there for the betterment of Southern Cameroonians and occupying forces. Since they're denying to pull out from SC then we have no other option than using a party like the SDF force them to check their excesses. The positive results are unspeakable. Note that this also helps our La Republic neighbours. I'm a man of principles...I'm NOT an AKOTONTEH. I'm AKOSON. If the SDF asks me to choose one...ofcourse my answer'll be the SCNC. Feel me!

I did enjoy the last part of your last letter addressed to me. I support that most institutions've failed the people. What's the way forward...the answer's simple; LET THE OCCUPIERS WITHDRAW THEIR TROOPS FROM OUR TERRITORIES. We(Southern Cameroonians) have a solution to African problems. We want most African countries follow our footsteps after our liberation. Infact, we want to be the African Singapore and of course, serve as the pacesetter for other African countries. What's your own opinion???

Eyes Of A tiger, Son Of Ako - LSE.

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[Akoson]

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correction, Ashwell,

without rush. I can now feel I've been corresponding with a man.

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[Ashwell Molaba]

Akoson,

I think it is high time we stopped talking about you. My views were raised in opposition to certain sentiments that I observed in your previous postings. If you read me correctly, you would notice that I do not insult or ridicule you in any way. We need to move away from persons and concentrate on the problems at hand.

Read my posting again to see that I never called you a political prostitute.

Quoting Ashwell

"I pointed to the apparent contradiction in support of the SDF on one hand, while flirting with the SCNC on the other. That is political prostitution of the highest order."

Please place emphasis on the word "apparent". Also note that the "That" in the last sentence does not refer to the person of Ako but refers to the actual contradiction discussed in the sentence immediately prior to the "That".

Having said that, read my last paragraph again. Me thinks it is naive for us to just say "the occupiers should leave." It is more complicated than that. We should think and think hard.

[Rexon]

Ashwell/Fonkam,

I dont think i have anything against any soo called french speaking cameroonian or citizens of la republique francaise du cameroun. But i think they have something against my subjects (even those who profess a united cameroon).

I have cited you many cases and will continue to cite them here.

They are part of the conspiracy to colonise our land and we are fighting here to drive them out. They are evil and do not want us to progress. They may have gave scholarships to some of you to window dress their hidden agenda and that is why you are here to pick words in the dictionary to defend them. They have done all sorts of naughty things to us, from federal republic of cameroun, to republique unie du cameroun to republique du cameroun that embodies owona's constitution.

Ashwell, i wont want to spend time writing here. Just read the entire constitution of la republique du cameroun and lets see if you will be talking politics other than SCNC in this forum. Except you dont want to accept the truth, or you have a hidden agenda, read the constitution of la republique du cameroun and i will have some questions to ask you.

[Ashwell Molaba]

Rexon,

There is a common but not so common Hindu saying that goes like this: "He who speaks does not know and he who knows does not speak." Combine that with what I have said before, that in this world, there are two kinds of people: those who speak about doing things and those who do things. You and I differ in only one thing. And that is how to free our people from the burden of poverty, that is their lot. That our people live in poverty, that our people are miserable, with no hope, that our people die of preventable diseases, that our people do not have a proper roof over their heads, that our people do not have proper drinking water, you and I have no difference. How do we bring about change? That is where you and I differ, and my methods will not be spoken about here.

I also fundamentally differ with you on the causes of our proplems. And that is precisely why our methods differ. I will throw no blankets over people. Francophones are human beings. Many have wittingly or unwittingly benefited from the ills of Anglophones. But they too are victims of their circumstances as we are. No Francophone child shall be called evil by Ashwell. Every man or woman shall be judged by their own actions. I will not follow any organisation. And if that means I have a secret agenda, then so be it.

Conspiracy theories are by their very nature what they are. Simply conspiracy theories. May be the CIA killed JFK. Or may be MI5 killed Princess Diana. Or May be the World Bank does not want Anglophones to prosper. When shall we wake up from such nonsense?

To me every opinion is valuable, including that of any minister or president of Cameroon. An opinion might show us what to do. And it might show us what never to do. If someone says, "let us kill all Anglophones." Then at least we know that we should protect Anglophones. But if he had never said it but killed Anglophones, we would not have a chance to protect people. Rexon, let everyone speak their mind. Even if they do not go on coloniasm bashing spree.

[Henry Alex]

ON VACATION.WISH U ALL A SPLENDID TIME.SEE Y'ALL

[Fon Lawrence]

Ashwell Molaba,
I don´t see what you termed a contradiction in Akoson´s position.When one has a problem,he or she must try out many solutions which may take different paths,but leading to the same thing.
No one doubts the fact that if the SDF takes power,the situation of Southern Cameroonians will improve and in the same light if the SCNC struggle succeeds,Southern Cameroonians will see the light of day.Hence these are different approaches towards achieving the same thing;an end to the marginalization of Southern Cameroonians.So where is the contradiction if one goes in for the two courses?
I for one shows strong support for the SDF because I think,it is an easier course to take and not that it is better than the SCNC course.The SCNC course is good,but I see it long and expensive;the reason why I give more support to the SDF.Hence if I encourage those who stand for the SCNC,it should not mean that I am contradicting myself.Therefore Akoson knows that he is not contradicting himself.

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[Akoson]

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I'M USING A STONE TO KILL TWO BIRDS.

Thanx a zillion Fon Lawrence for making my point clear. I was almost tired. I felt that Ashwell already has a conclusion in his mind that's why he kept his mind tight from assimilating what I felt anyone could read and understand.

Maybe I say it again in another way; I'M USING A STONE TO KILL TWO BIRDS.

Ashwell, what you're asking for now - to think hard, is something we'd done since long before you even dreamt of thinking about it.

Hope you understand.

Son Of Ako - LSE.

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[Rexon]

Fon Lawrence,

I am not against Akoson's militancy in both the SDF and SCNC as when i was a youth, i had been in thesame pot like him. Maybe with time, he will be able to make the right decision.

Nonetheless, i will like to make it clear to you guys that there is no connection between the SDF and the struggle that I and some of us in the SCNC are involved in- Total independence based on our constitutional rights. We have NEVER been part of la republique francaise du cameroun.

Secondly, if the SDF takes power, there will be virtually NO change in the lives of southern Cameroonians.

I want to ask you this question. Did Fru Ndi not preached Boycott of french goods? Who has rented his house, a french betting company that has been siphoning huge amounts of profits out of the country? Did fru Ndi not preached No coperation with the biya regime and even asked us not to pay taxes? How did he ended up receiving money from thesame regime when his wife was sick and where was the money from? Did Fru Ndi not suggested to us that Mr Biya had been in power since 1982 in 1990 and has not changed the lives of Cameroonians soo he should be rooted out of power? Why doesnt he fru ndi want to respect the constitution of his own SDF and why does he think he is the only one who can manage? There are lots of unanswered questions that even me (A non sdf militant) can pose with my basic wisdom to fru Ndi.

Once more, the SDF cannot change the lives of southern cameroonians. It can change the lives of its masters in paris and in la republique du cameroun and not the life of southern cameroonians.

[Andre Fokam]

Rexon or other who still doubt about the decision date for cameroon should go to the world bank website: www.worldbank.org
then click "news"
the at the bottom page on the left corner, under "resources",
click "board schedule and minutes"
then you will see a PDF file at the bottom of the page.
click "board calendar"
when the pdf file open, look at april 27th and it read:
"
Board meeting-10:00am
Lesotho CAS
Cameroon HIPC CP
Cameroon PRSP PR
Guyana PRSC2
AFR: West /Central AFR Air Trans APL
foll. by IFC BOARD MEETING"

Rexon i am waiting for your apologies (Cameroon tribune was better than the post on this issue)
Ashwell thank you for your civilised postings.

Andre Fokam

[rexon]

Fonkam,

I have said it and will say it again. Any rightminded person should NOT read Cameroon tribune. So to say, you and Agbormbai are criminals who need to be moderated. Maybe your airticket to europe was paid by one of the criminals who stood for a whole generation to destroy the future of the children of southern cameroons.

[Beybunui]

"He who speaks does not know and he who knows does not speak."
This phrase rightly describes rexon. He talks too much and in the process exhibits his ignorance.

[T guy]

Beybunui,

What you have said does not make sense. what has he said that you can describe as false or talking too much. I guess you are some of those who have disguised with another name merely to discredit him. He has been contributing a lot and you need to respect that.

[rexon]

Fonkam,

I have spoken to someone in the public relations department. It is known clearly that there is a problem with cameroons inability to fulfill the very modest rules set forward by the world bank for the HIPC. Cameroons failure and the way forward is what they are going to discuss.

Check the site well and you will see that only Cameroon is classed under the category HIPC.

[MBONU]

hey raxon
I AM WRITING FROM CHINA,DO YOU KNOW WE HAVE MANY SCNC MEMBERS HERE IN CHINA.I HAVE DECIDED TO ORGANISED THEM.MANY SOUTHERN CAMEROONIANS HERE WE MUST MAKE THEM KNOW THAT SOON WE WILL BE FREE.

[Andre Fokam]

Rexon
you are speaking like i am the gov of Cameroon. your last posting did not tell me anything new about our gov. i know they are a bunch of incapables. but the topic here is about the decision date and the fact that the "post" got it wrong.
i don't know if we will achieve the completion poitn or not, all i know is that the decision will be made tomorrow April 27th and as a concerned citizen who cares about my people home, i wish it is achieved so that it might reduced the burden of paying for a debt that did not serve us. that is my simple opinion.

Also,Rexon, be aware that any intelligent person can identify someone only by his writings! at time i only need to read a few lines of a posting to know who posted it. i know when Mukete write, when SJ, Ma mary, Akoson etc.. and YOU write and the posting from "Tguy" sound like you! i have 90% of chance of being right!

hope to hear from you after the verdict tomorow.

[Ngembus Fonlon Mbock]

CAMEROON-INFO.NET IS REFUSING TO SUBSCRIBE SOUTHERN CAMEROONIANS.

Camerounese jerks will carry their censorship all over.

If you go to Cameroon-info.net and request a subscription approval, stating clearly that you are a Southern Cameroonian or an SCNC activist, they will refuse to approve your subscription.

I encourage you to try it.

I have asked the SCNC in North America to investigate this blatant censorship.

Kudos to The Post for being such an open network that lets all these filthy frogs talk here.

Anyway, whatever they do, they will never change this:

The Southern Cameroons SHALL BE INDEPENDENT.

NOTHING and we mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING can stop it.

OUR VICTORY IS ASSURED.

Paa Ngembus
SCAADIM (Southern Cameroonians Against the Annexation & DestructIon of our Motherland)

[rexon]

Fonkam,

Lets dont take the debate to another direction. Yes you are not the government of the republic of cameroun. But u should not make unjustifiable claims here. Can i please ask you if the writer Beybunui is also you? As it also seems like you.

Ngembus,

Those idiots at Camerooninfo-net knows what their very corrupt mind is up to. I have tried to subscribe there a lot ot times and i cannot. I have taken over my challenges to icicemac articles. They will purk when they read from some of us.

Also Ngembus, there are southern Cameroonians who have benefitted from the alleged conspiracy to colonise us. They tend to discredit all our moves in this forum. Most pretend to belong to the SDF. We should also take care of themm.

[rexon]

THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS
THE LEGAL ROAD TO STATEHOOD

A British High Commissioner to Yaounde in La Republique du Cameroun once declared that Great Britain, the administering Authority of the UN Trust Territory of the Southern Cameroons had finished with the Southern Cameroons in 1961.

Political scientists would take this statement as 99% right, therefore 1% short of the Truth.

Some facts in history relate to this statement :

1. On 30th september 1961 the Admiral of the British Navy landed in Victoria and moved up to Buea, the Capital of the Southern Cameroons, and at mid-night on that same day the British flag, was brought down over the territory and Hon. John NGU FONCHA, Premier of the territory, proclaimed the independence of the Southern Cameroons.

Immediately after this ceremony the Commisioner of the Southern Cameroons, Mr J.O Fields, together with the Admiral of the Navy, left the territory and both on behalf of the United Kingdom Government said good-bye to the Southern Cameroons which thus became a sovereign nation until 10a.m in the morning of 1st october 1961, when Mr Amadou Ahidjo invaded and captured the nation politely and with ease in the very eyes of the very leaders to whom were given independence.

2. Previously, when the UK was considering independence for Nigeria, Her Majesty’s Government made a report to the Trusteeship Council of the UN, saying that the UN Trusteeship territory of the Cameroons under UK administration was not lagging behind Nigeria for independence. “But”, the report further asserted, “the territory is economically unviable to stand alone as an independent entity.” And in the reccomendation that followed “the inhabitants of the territory have to choose to achieve independence by joining either The Federation of Nigeria or the Independent Republic of Cameroon”.

The Trustteship Council was convinced and sponsored the plebiscite of 11th February 1961 and the independence for the Southern Cameroons was fixed for 1st october 1961.

Before we can put up the many questions and problems that hold the 1% truth that fall short of the British declaration we should like to review the legal instrument which gave the territory in trust to the United Kingdom administration and how that legal instrument was executed and teminated.

THE TRUSTEESHIP AGREEMENT

The main and basic objectives of the Trusteeship Agreement giving right to colonial administration of the UN Trust Territories are clearly stated in Article 76 (b) of the UN Charter :

…..“To promote political, econonmic, social and educational advancement of the inhabitants of the Trust Territories and their progressive development towards Self-Government or Independence as may be appropriate to the particular circumstances of each territory, and its peoples and the freely expressed wishes of the peoples concerned and as may be provided by termes of each trusteeship agreement”.

Question I :

Article 76 (b) of th UN charter gives right to a Trusteeship Territory to choose freely between Self-Government and Independence. Which other article in the Charter imposes “independence by joining” it depend on economic survival?

Question II:

Is economic viability a measuring rod for sovereignty? If it is, why should terroteries such as Equatorial Guinee, Mali, the Central African Republic, Tchad and even La Republique du Cameroun herself, territories much poorer than the Southern Cameroons, became sovereign independent states without joining themselves to more poweful econonmies?

Question III:

What is the economic situation of the Southern Cameroons today? Which of the two territories, La Republique du Cameroun or the Southern Cameroons, survives because of the other?

TRUTHS OF THE MATTER

1. Great Britain wants to run away from her responsibility of setting things right in the Southern Cameroons where she induced the UN into error. Of course, the errors committed by Her Majesty’s Government are not as formidable as those in Palestine and the Indian administered Cashmire.
2. Great Britain prefixed independence for the Trust Territory of the Cameroons under UK administration for 1st October 1961. This was no coninsidence. The British thought and were erroneousely convinced that the Southern Cameroons were to walk into the poling booths and indorse British wishes for intergration into the Nigerian Federation and therefore would celebrate 1st October with Nigeria as Independence day.
3. When the Southern Cameroons did not vote for Nigeria the British were furous and both business and civil administrative personnel packed off from the territory within the twinkling of the eye. It is unfortunate that ever since, the UK administered the territory of the Southern Cameroons as part of the Federation of Nigeria, she had never noticed the hard things Southern Cameroons suffered in the hands of some Nigerians.
4. It is implied in the statement by the British High Commisioner to La Republique du Cameroun in Yaounde that Great Britain finished with the Southern Cameroons in 1961 by granting independence to the territory in the same manner she does to other colonies and never returns to meddle in the internal affaires of these colonies. According to the statement it was Hon. John NGU FONCHA who allowed Amadou Ahidjo to capture the Southern Cameroons without any legal instrument to justify this act.
5. The above stament is null and void. The UK made a mistake in the method of terminating the trusteeship agreement.
6. The fact that she refused to send the three experts in constitutional and administrative law to draw up a treaty of unification which should have obviously been based on the illegal framework of the plebicite which brought about the so called unification indicates that she should avoid committing more and more errors of greater magnitude.
7. To Her Majesty’s Government: the Satement of your High commisioner has to be reviewed. We hold your Government responsible for our plight. Help us to peacefully have what we deserve in the light of the letter and spirit of Article 76 (b) of the UN Charter. It is possible. Let us avoid unnecessary loss of human lives. We are peace-loving. Let the world emulate the examples of the leaders of the Southern Cameroons National Council (SCNC) who have choosen “The Force of Argument, Not the Argument of Force”.


By THOMPSON TEKU
Victoria Southern Cameroons

[Tangie]

What's really this HIPIC completion shit all about. This will only be completed when we completely root out all the criminals that pushed that economy down the drain in the first place. It true that we u can't manage what u have u end up borrowing and even when u borrow, it becomes even worse given that u won't still manage it properly. Lets stop this shit for once and be real. I pray cameroon never gets there. It's a shame we are struggling to qualify as a poor country. I tired of this whole crap and still believe the SCNC is the right thing to do. Even those who are talking about debt cancellation are the same people causing all the trouble but our leaders, as greedy and dormant as they are have refused to listen to the voice of reason.
Well, the SCNC believes in the force of argument but i think when it becomes necessary the argument of force will prevail, whatever that means.
The sons and daughters of southern cameroonians shall stand up with time.

[Ashwell Molaba]

Andre Fokam,

Thanks for the information provided. I have gone through the calendar. It does indicate that the meeting was supposed to be held yesterday 27th April. There is no other news about whether Cameroon reached completion point or not. The confusion between The Post and Cameroon Tribune seems to be the anouncement made by the World Bank on poor countries that qualified for debt cancelation. Debt cancelation vs HIPC completion point, may sound like gibberish to some of us. I think that should settle the whole issue. We should disagree so as to find better solutions; but not so as to create animosity amongst ourselves as human beings. Peace to all!

[Nkosi Jacob]

CAMEROON REACHES COMPLETION POINT.
This afternoon [Cameroon time] the PM will receive a fax jointly signed by the IMF & WORLD BANK authorities announcing Cameroon's admission to the completion point of the HIPC.
Like it or not it is a historic decision. Some would want to be triumphalists like celebrating a victory but others would want to be modest. Whatever the case I would like to react in this manner: Cameroon's admission to the completion point is purely a HUMANITARIAN ACT. It is hardly a fallout of a satisfactory implementation of the conditions set down by the Bretton Woods Institutions.
It is a recognition of the plight of the ordinary Cameroonian toiling and moiling everyday to scrap a living. Indeed it is a humanitarian act because if we have to consider that the present fight against corruption is rather cosmetic [discriminatory arrests of people]; that of the 200 Billion FCFA blocked in the BEAC meant for use in poverty alleviation projects, the Biya rulership rather uses some of it in lavish and ostentatious ventures like buying high-end cars [PRADOS] and paying fictitious mission allowances.
CONAC like the recently promulgated law [ARTICLE 66] on the declaration of assets is cosmetic. It is in this light that while admitting Cameroon to the completion point of the HIPC initiative, the stakeholders sounded a cautionary note to the Biya government in matters of good governance and purposeful use of HIPC Funds. To end, let me say that if the IMF & WORLD BANK were to grade Cameroon as per the satisfactory implementation of set conditions, CAMEROON will never succeed with Biya and his group in power.

[Ashwell Molaba]

Nkosi Jacob,

Please tell us where you got that info from?

[Nkosi Jacob]

Ashwell Molaba
It is not my intention to intoxicate the learned people in this forum with faulty information. I happen to have got the information as a scoop from an IMF insider and it would be unholy for me to devulge his identity here. However it is gradully becoming official. Follow this link for instance:

http://za.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-04-

WORLD BANK TO CANCEL $1.27 BLN OF CAMEROON'S DEBT.

Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:28 AM GMT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The World Bank on Thursday agreed to cancel $1.27 billion of Cameroon's debt under a global program for the world's poorest countries, despite concerns about corruption raised by bank President Paul Wolfowitz.

The debt cancellation will be finalized once the International Monetary Fund signs off on it at a meeting scheduled for Friday.

In a statement read to the World Bank's board of directors, Wolfowitz, who is currently in Mexico, pointed to lingering concerns about the lack of transparency and corruption in Cameroon, referring to its low rankings on watchdog Transparency International's index of the world's most corrupt countries and reports by non-profit group Global Witness.

An official who attended the meeting said board directors decided that oil-rich Cameroon had made sufficient economic progress since it joined the Highly Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC) initiative in 2000 and had met World Bank requirements for debt relief.

"The board felt that Cameroon had worked hard in the six years since it entered HIPC and were against moving the goal post," said one official.

The official said some board members urged Wolfowitz to refer more to the bank's own ratings on governance, such as in the Country Policy and Institutional Assessments, which evaluates the quality of country policies including transparency, accountability and corruption in the public sector.

A recent report by an IMF economist on Cameroon's oil sector, where production is on the decline, concluded that while there have been substantial efforts to improve transparency, "continued and sustained action" is necessary to address the remaining gaps including the use of oil revenue.

Despite the country's oil wealth over the last 30 years, Cameroon has remained a poor country with weak social indicators.

Since becoming president of the World Bank in June last year, Wolfowitz has shown himself a bold opponent of corruption, halting lending to Chad when the government broke an agreement on oil profits, and suspending development projects to countries like India and Kenya.

Still, World Bank's member countries have worried that his ambitious anti-corruption agenda should not get in the way of the bank's main mission to reduce poverty and urged him to develop a formal framework for dealing with corruption by September.

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