By Peterkins Manyong
The Mezam High Court, Wednesday, July 19, declared itself incompetent to hear a motion filed by Fru Ndi's lawyers against Ben Muna and some of his supporters.
The motion was filed pending a substantive matter in the same court.
Before passing the ruling, Mr. Justice Joseph Nkengla, Mezam High Court President, recalled that the motion called on the court to restrain Ben Muna from parading himself as SDF National Chairman as well as stop him and his supporters from addressing themselves as the National Executive Committee, NEC, of the SDF.
The court was also called upon to stop them from using the SDF logo, emblem, headed paper, or appearing on television, newspapers, the Internet and radio in those capacities.
The judge recalled that when the matter was first heard, Muna was the only respondent. But lawyer Anthony Amazee filed a motion calling on the court to include the names of Hon. Clement Ngwasiri, Mrs. Margaret Nyah, Pascal Zamboue, Odille Megue Mballa and others.
Lawyer Peter Asongwe made a similar request.On his part, lawyer Innocent Bonu said Muna had mandated him to file a motion stating that Fru Ndi was incompetent to speak on behalf of the SDF.He argued that the Court lacked the jurisdiction to hear the matter as the same was being handled by the High Court of Mfoundi.
Besides upholding this argument, Amazee appearing for Hon. Ngwasiri and others, said all the respondents, except Margaret Nyah, resided and worked in Yaounde; that Ngwasiri applied to be joined in the suit because their interests were at stake.
Amazee averred that the Centre Provincial Court of Appeal was handling a similar case and it would be judicial nonsense for the Mezam High Court to entertain it.The judge recalled that lawyer Sama, in response, said the SDF party and Nyah resided in Bamenda and Hon. Ngwasiri, was MP for Bamenda Central and by implication he was resident there.
Sama also argued that the Mfoundi Court did not annul NEC, only its decisions since 2003 and that Fru Ndi was the most competent person to represent the SDF.
Fru Ndi's lead counsel, recalled Justice Nkengla, argued that the very fact of the defence filing submissions to the Mezam High Court, was a tacit admission of its competence to handle the matter.
The judge, in his ruling, cited a portion of the law, which stipulates that lawsuits should be heard where the defendants reside or do business. If out of eight defendants, six were resident in Yaounde, it was logical that the matter be heard in Yaounde. He recognised the fact that Muna was the main person against whom the motion was filed.
He also recognised that Ngwasiri applied to be included in the motion the court had been listening to, which motion called on the court to restrain them from speaking on behalf of the SDF because they had since been expelled from the party.
If the Bamenda Court heeded their request and went ahead to restrain the respondents and the Yaounde Court passed a ruling in their favour; this would make nonsense of the Bamenda Court's decision.
It would be logical that the matter at the Yaounde Court be heard first. Besides, it was logical that as the majority of the defendants are in Yaounde the matter should be heard by the Yaounde Court.
Fru Ndi's Lawyers Appeal
Speaking to The Post after the ruling, an elated Bonu described Justice Nkengla as "a Daniel come to judgment."Reacting to the fact that Fru Ndi's lawyers had appealed against the ruling, he said it was their legal right to do so.
But the fact remains: whether they take the matter to Appeal Court or Supreme Court the law will still take its course.

While admiring the fact that sama must do what he should as a lawyer to Fru Ndi,i do not think that him as a lawyer of his reputation should have taken the case again to the bamenda high court after knowing they had to answer to the very case from the Mfoundi high court. I have not yet been bale to understand why he thinks that he cannot answer to the mfoundi high court and succeed. I thought one of the legal adivisers to the SDF said they had changed the popular cameroonian law which says any party that reports first wins the case. If the right wing of the sdf has decided to go back to the old law then it is sure that they are aware that they are wrong and will possibly fail as procceedings go though to completion in the Mfoundi high court. Firstly they did not see the need to report to the authorities, secondly they were trying to play a game of time, thirdly they were trying to stupify the cameroonian law so they are wrong and is either they beg and join muna or they dismantle the mob of stupite peopel they are trying to appeal to.
Posted by: Bobgala | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 05:51 PM
I am anxiously waiting for Fon Lawrence, Klamenceau, Knganjo, Watesih, Aaron Nyangkwe, Feli, Roki of S, Akoson, the fake Mukete, and the other blind supporters of Ni John Fru Ndi to speak out before I comment on this judgement. They had been hoping, praying and declaring that the case in Bamenda would be in the favour of Ni John Fru Ndi and his camp. Even with thousands of Ni John Fru Ndi's supporters in court, Justice Nkengla refused to give in to any form of intimidation. He merely respected the law and worked according to the law and his conscience.
Since the case was to hold in Bamenda, where the presidency of Ni John Fru Ndi and his militia are located, and where our Baby Sdf was born, Ni John Fru Ndi had publicized the case, bringing in a selected press into court and carrying with him thousands of his supporters into the court room. Ni John Fru Ndi had been hoping that with his popularity in Bamenda and the fact that his Taliban militia is feared in Bamenda, Justice Nkengla could not take the risk of not having him win the trial. He never imagined that things and times have changed drastically and that Cameroonians could no more be intimidated to distort justice.
Of course, Ni John Fru Ndi had mobilized his Taliban Militia and they were paid and drugged few hours before the Bamenda court verdict, but when Ni John Fru Ndi and BAD Ndam left the premises where the Taliban were bveing trained, the militia had to reflect on the fate that awaits them should they cause violence in the Bamenda trial. One militia leader, Peter Nde lectured the militia members on the sufferings that Colonel Chi and others are experiencing in Yaounde, while Ni John Fru Ndi and BAD Ndam are moving freely in the streets and enriching themselves. He lectured his militia group of the pains that the families of the detainees in Yaounde are going through, with no food, no school fees and fathers to support them. One militia asked what would be the fate of the detainees in Yaounde, and another militia member Simon Fombe, assured them that even Colonel Chi will surely go to prison. After many reflections, and mindful of the court case awaiting them for wanting to kill Professor Ngwasiri in Bamenda, the Taliban Militia refused to take Ni John Fru Ndi's orders. They were reminded of what Ni John Fru Ndi told security department on the attempted murder on professor Ngwasiri: "I was out of the country when this unfortunately took place."
On been informed that Ni John Fru Ndi had gathered his militia to disrupt the Bamenda court rulings, one militia's wife, Mrs. Mary Muma immeidiately stormed the training ground and pulled out his husband from the group. Not only that. This woman turned to Ni John Fru Ndi and BAD Ndam and asked them this question: "If my husband goes to prison, you people will continue to receive money while my children and I will have no food to eat. You did this to John Kohkem and the other detainees in Yaounde. You wouldn't do this to my husband." She took her husband away.
When Justice Nkengla passed his final judgement, BAD Ndam stood up and was looking towards the main entrance into the court hall, expecting their Ntarikon trained Taliban to stornm the hall. When nobody showed up and even SDF militans in the court made no noise - as BAD Ndam was expecting, they left the hall, telling Journalists that they will appeal the court ruling. When a Journalist approached Ni John Fru Ndi on the court verdict, the man started telling the world that he had malaria, without crying about his deceased wife as he used to do.
Before we start hearing blind supporters of Ni John Fru Ndi blaming others and the CPDM for the CLEAN and CLEAR verdict, I want Fon Lawrence, Klamenceau, Knganjo, Watesih, Aaron Nyangkwe, Feli, Roki of S, Akoson, the fake Mukete, and the other blind supporters of Ni John Fru Ndi to speak out before I comment on this judgement. Presently I am following up both camps in the court trial and I will be giving listeners the genesis, chronology, hidden facts, effects and consequences of this case. I will be keeping readers inforned as details come in.
I have stated many times in this forum that we shall know the truth and that the truth shall set us free. But whenever I bring the truth here, Klamenceau, Fon Lawrence, Knganjo, Watesih, Aaron Nyangkwe, Mbu Bu., Feli, Fake Mukete, Akoson etc. want to kill me.
Stay tuned.
mukete
Posted by: mukete | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 09:35 PM
It shocks me when a person like Barister Sama could ridicule himself to table a case in Bda high Court although he is fully aware of a similar case already at the Level of Appeal Court of the Central Province after an unfavourable ruling by Yaoundé High Court against them. I am afraid instead of Appealing his case now to the North West Provincial appeal court and eventually supreme Court. He will further expose his ignorant in the court system by tabling another motion in the Court of First Instance and eventually the Customary court. He can full the masses but he is having infront of him great lawyers like Ben Muna and Prof. Ngwashiri. Even in his sick bed in Hopital General Yde Prof Ngwashiri is still give Instructions which can overturn hundreds of cross-examinations by Sama. Sama says Ngwashiri is representing Bamenda as his residence is as a result there. Is Fru Ndi not having a residence in Yaounde? Why is he therefore shying away from Yaounde? I know Chief Judge Nkengla personally from his time in Kumba in early 80s and he is a no nonsense Judge who interprets the law as it is and nothing but the law in order to pass his rullings. If lawyer Sama is incompetent to handle this civil case as the main lawyer of Fru Ndi, I really doubt his ability to handle the pending criminal case against Fru Ndi concerning Diboule's murder.
Posted by: Ngwese | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 09:49 PM
Ni John Fru Ndi keeps on falling from grace to grass. With the disgraceful verdict from Bamenda, a good politician would have immediately tendered his resignation and handed in all SDF documents to Professor Ngwasiri's NAC. But Ni John Fru Ndi - the open-eye dictator he is - is still clinging to power despite the fact that the message is clearly on the wall. This judgement - from Bamenda itself - is the final blow that should have pushed Ni John Fru Ndi and his gang of exploiters to surrender.
BAD Ndam and Lawyer Sama were fully aware that the Bamenda court was incompetent to hear such a case that was pending in another jurisdiction, but because they know that Ni John Fru Ndi is an illiterate and someone who knows completely nothing on legal matters, they kept assuring him of victory in the said case. The stack illiterate is also deceived by what ignorant people like Klamenceau, Fon Lawrence, Knganjo, Watesih. Aaron Nyangkew, Mbu B, Feli, Koki of S, etc have been writing here. Ni John Fru Ndi has become a daily reader of the Post online. Even after the judgement, BAD Ndam and Lawyer Sama are still telling Ni John Fru Ndi that they have ten (10) articles in the law which they forgot to use in the trial and that they will use it in the appeal court in Bamenda to win back confidence. And the illiterate continues to believe these thieves. Readers wouldn't believe the amount of money that BAD Ndam, Lawyer Sama and the other Lawyers defending Ni John Fru Ndi get from the SDF after each court trial. A large part of the money that the CPDM government gave to the SDF just before the Bamenda convention was actually used in paying this legal team arreas from the SDF. They prefer to be massing this money rather than telling Ni John Fru Ndi the truth. And what do we expect from a leader who is ignorant of the law?
Those who measure the popularity of Ni John Fru Ndi by the population should have been in Bamenda to realize that Ni John Fru Ndi is a finished man. When the learned judge gave his final verdict, BAD Ndam and his group were expecting a reaction from inside the court that was packed by supporters of Ni John Fru Ndi. To their greatest disappointment, there was dead silence. The sound of a needle falling on the court floor would have been heard. Ni John Fru Ndi's group were sweating and trembling, still unable to believe what they were expecting inside Bamenda where Ni John Fru Ndi is known as the president and his Ntarikon palace as the "presidency."
Following the final verdict, Ni John Fru Ndi's team sat in their seats with their bones broken and seating until court authorities moved to them to tell them that the court premises were to be locked up. In fact, it was a general observation that Ni John Fru Ndi is finished; that the man has nothing to offer. His SDF should now renamed "CDF" - "Chairman Don Finish." Since the court verdict the man has made himself busy and active by constantly chewing what observers mistakingly take for kola nuts.
Things have changed for the better and it is now time for people to gather courage and bring Ni John Fru Ndi and his gang to court for all the atrocities they committed. The families of the six killed during the lifting if Ni John Fru Ndi to political fame on May 26. 1990 should take Ni John Fru Ndi to court. The families of those deceived into picking up live grenades by Ni John Fru Ndi and losing their limbs in the process should take Ni John Fru Ndi and Co. to court. The families of all the old Takenbeng women that Ni John Fru Ndi deceived and intimidated into exposing their sacred nakedness to the public should take Ni John Fru Ndi to court. The families of all the Ntarikon trained Taliban Militia that Ni John Fru Ndi and his gang have been training and druging to cause atrocities should take Ni John Fru Ndi and his group to court. The families of Tita that was roasted in Bamenda, John Kohtem that was pushed to an early grave, Pa Ngwafor whose NACHO was burnt down, Makoge who was sacrificed should take Ni John Fru Ndi to court. All Cameroonians who were deceived into closing down their business and institutions of learning so as to enrich Ni John Fru Ndi and others should take Ni John Fru Ndi to court. The families of all those who suffered police and army brutality and were fed with tear gaz because of Ni John Fru Ndi should take him to court. All those whose houses and properties were burnt down because of Ni John Fru Ndi should pull him to court. All students were missed the opportunity to go to school because of Ni John Fru Ndi should pull him to court. All Cameroonians who sacrificed because of Ni John Fru Ndi should take him to court. The families of those who have been enslaved (Klamenceau, Fon Lawrence, Watesih, Akoson, Mbu B., Feli, Aaron Nyangkwe, Knganjo, etc) should take Ni John Fru Ndi to court for making their children slaves. Readers of this forum should take Ni John Fru Ndi should take Ni John Fru Ndi to court for sponsoring people like Klamenceau, Fon Lawrence, Watesih, Akoson, Mbu B., Feli, Aaron Nyangkwe, Knganjo, etc to come and feed us with lies. All the Journalists who had been beaten and brutalized by Ni John Fru Ndi and his militia should take him to court. His apparent immunity has been lifted by his selfish interests.
The days of Ni John Fru Ndi as a leader are numbered. When his ugly sides started coming up in the public, we adviced Ni John Fru Ndi to resign and maintain the fame he had attained. But illiteracy and the love for power, money, and property urged him to stay on. Now look at the consequences.
I will be writing. Stay tuned.
Mukete
Posted by: mukete | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 10:32 PM
We are still waiting on Klamenceau, Fon Lawrence, Watesih, Aaron Nyangkwe, Buh B., Knganjo, Feli, Koki of S and especially the fake mukete to speak out on this court verdict.
For now, I reserve the many facts I have. I want them to beat about the bush before I tell readers more. But readers hould be analysing all incoming details, to see those who want to hide facts.
Over to them.
Mukete
Posted by: mukete | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 10:37 PM
mukete that is it.we are reading brother.the write up is selling like hot cake.keep on.
many are reading it time and again and again
Posted by: frank | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 11:01 PM
Don't you start rambling.The verdict has not been reached yet.Wait for Yaounde before you start hitting your heads in confusion.Feeling important because Joseph Nkengla says Yaounde should be listened to first.That doesn't mean that the verdict as been passed.
Ben Muna and Ngwasiri are trying to hijack SDF and we want them to form their own party instead of pretending to be what they'll never be.Ben Muna is not even an SDF member.He only appears when there is an election and disappears afterwards.He couldn't have missed this opportunity of making a fool of Ngwasiri and the likes of Mukete,Frank and other's who have stooped so low.
I read from the computer cut and paste teacher BenB another stooge of Ben Muna and he (Ben Muna) was narrating a story about Jesus Christ.I found it funny because if he was a Christian as he claims, he would have read in the bible that Jesus taught his followers to be united so they won't be devowed by wolves.Jesus preached the unity of the church which applies same to our party the true SDF.
The devil seizes the smallest opportunity he has to start tearing down,engineering people to fight against each other, sowing bad seeds of hatred,enmity etc. I guess Ben had forgotten this when he was quoting Jesus Christ and the bible. He (Ben and co) are a bad seed that is determined to tear our SDF party.I still hold strongly here that Ben will NEVER in the annals of Cameroon politics, stand a test of popularity against Fru Ndi.He can only enter through the back door.He doesn't want to be humble and take instructions from experienced Fru Ndi.He wants to be the one in command.Harvesting where he never sowed.In English we call such a person " a thief".
Mukete,you will cry your teeth out because your number one enemy has been mentioned in this article.You can as well blame Fru Ndi for the misfortunes of your family.
Spelling my name correctly has become a nightmare to you.
Truth pressed to earth shall rise again.
Posted by: Roki of Shanghai | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 12:41 AM
New Party: CDF - Chairman Don Finish
Hahahahahahahahahahaha-woyowoyowoyowoyowoyo! Wona come helep me laf. Saaah Mukete! Bad mop go kill you oooooh! Chairman Don Finish (CDF).
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 01:01 AM
AKOSON THE ROCK (ROKI) OF SHANGHAI SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS
Who sent Ben Muna to quote the Bible that is the property of the Right Fasting Reverend Akoson the Rock (Roki) of Shangai? See how Roki Akoson is teaching him what he doesn't know.
At least, our LSE Tiger with a twisted mind has shown the honesty to accept that he is in China, even though e use na style. Surrender na surrender.
So you guys are now waiting for decisions from Biya's courts? Just go about your popularity business. What has a court decision got to do with your wonderful grassroots following? Grassroots wey na only wona know dem house.
If you guys don't mind it, we can let a truce to allow the Axis hold a major strategic meeting to chart the way forward, how to handle this flood of bad news that is leading head on to their new party CDF (Chairman Don Finish).
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 01:15 AM
BenB,let me teach you something simple.Akoson IS NOT the same person as Roki of Shanghai.You and your crew has learnt to twist every little bit of truth that exist.
If you care, i'll give you my number.I'll paste it right here for the world to see.Akoson in London can do same as well so that you call if you can.Don't try to twist simple truth as such.
Akoson and i walk the same course,we are not the same.
Truth pressed to earth shall rise again
Posted by: Roki of Shanghai | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:35 AM
It is good to know that even the vanguards are beginning to think logically!
Posted by: Dr. A. A. Agbormbai | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:41 AM
I CAN SEE THERE ARE PEOPPLE HERE WHO DONT ANYTHING TO DO EXCEPT WRITE LONG SENSELESS STUFF HERE ON POSTNEWSLINE.
MUKETE, U CAME TO EUROPE TO STDUY BUT I AM SUPRISE U SPEND ALL UR TIME LOOKING FOR NONSE TO FEEED PEOPLE HERE WITH. WE DONT NEED ALL THAT PLEASE SPARE US THAT RUBBISH.
TOOTHLESS BULL DOG.
Posted by: GEORGE | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:53 AM
Fru Ndi or what ever you call him has given his own contribution to the nation building of Cameroon dispite the fact that he to is becoming a "Fan" of the Biya Regime.
SDF has faillied in it´s political Manifesto just like the CPDM party with it´s "rigour,intergrity and moralisation".
There is total dictatorship in SDF and these can be justified by the events which have rock the party in the resent years and most resently the Power to the people and equal Opportunity: which is now the power to the Chairman and Dictatorship.
I am sorry it is not a change of regime which will help Cameroon but a change of Ideology and accepting the NEW Generation to rule in these pre-mordern era of Globalisation and Diversity.
God save Cameroon
Posted by: fortown | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 03:08 AM
OK, Akoson "Roki". Hahahahahahahaha. Then stop "copying" the well known style of our LSE hero whom we missed here for a long time. Now we are seeing him again in disguise. He now hates his LSE name. Or perhaps when he uses his celebrated name, Postnewsline doesn't permit him to post.
In fact, when he has a stinker for BenTerribobsFB on his homosexual activities in Yaounde, his postings get stuck somewhere. But when he only wants to express a frustation, Postnewlsine allows him to post. Isn't that confusing?
Or maybe you're the one jamming him in order to steal his very admirable style of postings here.
Please leave his style and adopt ya own. I have the moral authority to protect his copyright because he is my fasting partner and I value his contributions here.
If you don't leave his London style and adopt your Shanghai style, I'll make him sue you at the Mezam High Court praying the judge to bar you from using his copyrighted letterhead, et al.
So na only now wey internet reach Shanghai, ma broda? It's only now you discovered Postnewsline, Mr Akoson the Rock (Roki) of Shanghai? Try another trick, my friend in preparation for the last fight of the Axis.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 03:43 AM
Whatever happens in the SDF, will not change the twenty four years status-quo in Cameroon.
A very big transition needs to come and this hopefully should happen when Biya passes away. I do not pray for evil, but nothing dramatic or positive will happen to the Cameroonian sociopolitical set-up should Ni John not be there, but so much will happen if Biya should extinguish.
This to me, is not because he is president and that his death should bring more hysteria, but because he is the person blocking Cameroon`s progress.
Therefore his absence will usher in a new era of hope and prosperity.
SDF here and there is time wasting. Its Anglophone setting gives it no chance to win anything, take it or leave it,or as you like, keep hitting fingers on the keyboards about the SDF.
Some of you guys abroad should think of how you can link your native area councils to others overseas,non-profit organizations that work in the field of development rather than inciting useless hate and personality butchering.
I could share my experience with any interested if that would help in such venture.
Cheers!
Posted by: Mbu.B | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 04:07 AM
BenB, copy and paste the law that states that I, Roki of Shanghai shouldn't contribute to better my country because it resembles some other person's writings.You have gone from the name Akoson and Roki to the style of writing.Doing what you and your crew do best.Chasing the shadows.What a shame.Keep confusing yourself and others like you.I said it clearly, i guess you read that but didn't understand as the case has always been.Do you need contact infos?
Mbu B, thanks for your insight.
Truth pressed to earth shall rise again.
Posted by: Roki of Shanghai | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 04:23 AM
Considering the Bi-jural setup of the Cameroonian legal system(language differences and court procedures) i wish to find out whether the decision that might be arrived at in Yaounde in the said case could be thesame if the case was to be entertain in Bamenda.
Posted by: Big Joe | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 04:37 AM
This talk of militia is pure nonsense. So of all the journalists and observers in the court room, only Mukete could see these militia? The truth is the SDF has no military wing and does not believe in violence. If the SDF were violent and believed in force, Cameroon would have been in a civil war today.
Mukete, struggle harder to create more names...Mary Muma, Peter Fombe, Simon...Say they drink blood,smoke hemp and that they live on human flesh.Only very naive heads would believe you like Dr. AA, your CPDM baron. But the truth is,we all know you can not deliver. You talk of evidence that implicates the leadership of the SDF, when we ask for it all you can say is 'I will...'Bring your hidden facts and stop making a fool of yourself whenever you write.
Posted by: Feli | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 04:40 AM
SDF, POST-BIYA & TRIVIAS
Akoson the Rock (Roki) of Shanghai, if you were making use of online time like Mbu.B, if you were making even half the quality, not quantity, of stuff he posted here (not your shallow, hysterical rantings) you won't have needed to be changing names after going underground for nearly a month. And I say this to the rest of the hit and run Axis band.
So, if I may ask, what did you so admire in Mbu.B's "great insight"?
(Mbu.B's write up may not be all right, its motivation may be the frustration most of you are facing as truths unfold, but it is well thought out all the same. Take it from me.)
Do you just find consolation in his assertion that the outcome of Ni John's downfall won't open the way to Etoudi power for SDF under Muna? Doesn't that show your scourge earth mentality? If Ni John will lose, thank God that Ni Ben would collect only an empty crown, right?
You see, I said here that some of you are Fru Ndiists, not SDF militants; not social democrats. And it becomes clear that after your Axis retreat strategic meeting one of these days, you'll resolve to create a Fru Ndiists party which I had proposed here weeks and weeks and weeks ago. You may decide not to call it CDF (Chairman Don Finish).
One thing you guys must understand is (and Mbu.B has a point) that the post-Biya dispensation is unpredictable and may not just see some existing structure now take its place. Where Mbu.B may not be right (maybe I'm wrong, but events will unfold and prove things out), that new dispensation is shaping out now.
No one may know what shape it would eventually take or what or who it would be made up of, but the push and pull at the CPDM congress holding today, the backstabbing and physical stabbing and bursting of eyes at the recent SDF twin conventions, moves towards a post-Coalition common party for Ndam Njoya, Issa Tchiroma, Sanda Oumarou, the UPC quarrels, et al are all dynamics shaping up towards the post-Biya era.
Does that mean COMMERCIAL ACTIVISTS shouldn't be exposed, disgraced and shelved? You want to answer that?
If you understood Mbu.B, I hope I did, his conclusion to you Axis donkeys is, don't kill yourselves over Ni john and his band who are raising their fists to show the height of their towers while you are cracking your voices for a long-traded power.
Shouldn't we fast over that this weekend? Send that Shanghai phone number let me pass it one to Akoson in London who will coordinate our fasting.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 05:00 AM
Fortown you are right our frontline Opposition party has been having the same Hat on like the regime of Biya.
We need a political system that could propergate these New Era of Rule of law and Human right not those who believe in Dictatorship and Totaliterianism.
We need a civil society where Seperation of power and the role of law is been impliemented without any act of injustice and greed.
Posted by: Boyst | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 06:13 AM
I do read the postnewsline daily and never bothered to react to any political news item on this forum but Mukete has succeeded to make me write here.
I have been reading almost all his comments in this forum. I think this guy is a genius in 'njankiri' because he combines politics and street slangs and blends them perfectly well. In the beginning I thought it was one Mukete I used to know in Stuttgart in Germany, but later due to the indepth news and insider information that he posts on this forum, I concluded it cannot be the guy in Germany. However this Mukete is really funny. The point that makes me to write here is his comment saying SDF should now be called CDF (Chairman Don Finish). I have laughed my lungs out untill calling on the attention of my colleagues who were also interested in sharing the fun and I had to explain to them. even they could not stop laughing. Now two more people know about the SDF in the world. Not bad though for free publicity.
Boy I think you should be given an honorary degree in 'Njakiri'.
Cheers
Posted by: Vally Bessong | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 07:00 AM
So what makes me disgusted with these SDF stooges and henchmen is their abject illiteracy in dealing with the judicial system in Cameroon.They know the law from the beginning why did they use their famous article 82 and dismissed several core members of the party,if they were not quite sure of their legality at the helm of the party.
It's ridiculous to go to court with someone you know you should call to settle the matter amicably in a family meeting.Let's wait and see.I think they can now differentiate between the rule of law and jungle justice used by Fru's Militia men to intimidate other militants.
Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong
Posted by: Fritzane Kiki Hong Kong | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 07:48 AM
hey,
i am very surprised with some of your reasoning in your comments. what you should ask yourself is that "what is the issue before the bamenda high court and what is the issue before the Mfoundi high court, are they thesame". It doesn't mean because the parties are thesame which makes the case to be same. Issues or cause of action can be different and thus different courts can have original jurisdiction.
I will advise you guys who write for the sake of it to be careful in making conclusions which might end up against you.
i am not an expert in law but you may refer to Erick-Denzel for legal clarification because this is a legal issue.
peace
Posted by: mimi | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 09:43 AM
FROM GRACE TO GRASS: Ni John Fru Ndi is a FINISHED MAN.
If one had informed Ni John Fru Ndi before now that his popularity will drop drastically in Bamenda one day, Ni John Fru Ndi would have reacted with crude brutality. This is a man who was considering himself the number one personality in Bamenda. He could go to the governor’s office up station and insult the governor while his thugs stand by with drugs in their brains. He could visit radio Bamenda and force journalists into announcing whatever he liked. He could assemble Mendankwe children and pay them to kill their own brother professor Ngwasiri. Ni John Fru Ndi could ask Bamenda children to bend down and pick live grenades and they would obey, knowing fully well that they would lose their limbs in the entire process. Ni John Fru Ndi could assemble Mankon children and push them into beating their brothers like Ngafor of NACHO. Ni John Fru Ndi could ask Bamenda people to send their old great grand mothers – the Takeubeng into his palace and he will ask them to expose their sacred nakedness to the public and his orders will be obeyed. This is a man who considered himself far above the traditional rulers in Bamenda– whether in the CPDM or in the opposition. This is a man who considered himself far important than the Ministers, Ambassadors, professors, Lawyers, Directors, Army General, Educated elites, Business men in Bamenda.
Continue reading my next write up.
Mukete
Posted by: mukete | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 11:01 AM
Mukete,
You have said all of these before. But you haven't given us the tonne of evidence that implicates Ni John Fru Ndi and the SDF. Someone just wrote and stopped short of calling you very silly.
I have always said that your style is to portray by all means your murky CPDM politics on the SDF and Ni John Fru Ndi. In your CPDM, the grooming of thugs and militia is rife, the use of intimidation to perpetrate electoral fraud is encouraged from top to bottom. Where ever one looks, your system is full of people ready to use violent youths to protect their selfish interests. I remember Remy Ze Meka telling the Chairman during a demonstration in Yaounde that if the Chairman is not careful he shall send elements of PRESBY to start a free-for-all fight during a demonstration.A couple of days later, they coordinated youths to stifle the activities of the opposition. For the sake of peace, the SDF did not ignite the situation.In Kumba, the paramount Chief Mukete has youths he drugs to torment the opposition. Ask Ferdi Asapngu, the SDF Mayor of Kumba. These youths have brutalised people, destroyed property and even allegedly murdered Lawyer Eseme. In Balikumbat, the imprisoned Fon Doh took it upon himself to declare his village a no-go zone for the opposition, so that a free-for-all fight was always programmed when Ni John Fru Ndi had rallies in Balikumbat. The Fon exagerrated it by murdering the fire-brand John Kohtem and is now lamenting in prison, thanks to the protest marches and intra-parliamentary pressure of the SDF. In Rey Bouba,the late Lamido had a militia armed with spears and bows and arrows. Their motive was to carve out a small state for the Lamdido because even administrative officials were victims of his brutality. He died without facing the justice for the murder of a UNDP Parliamentarian!!!!.
You see, all of these CPDM bigwigs use this method of intimidation and volence to achieve their dirty goals so it is but normal for their agent Mukete to try by all means to associate this style to Ni John Fru Ndi and the SDF. I have always said it that if the SDF believed in violence, then Cameroon should have been in flames today. Some of you are totally not aware of the temptation on field and of the approaches former top military personnels to the leadership of the SDF to drag the nation into bloodshed. It is a kind of a jungle law system. But with the SDF in power that rubbish will stop and the rule of law shall have its way with equal opportunity for all.
Posted by: Feli | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 11:53 AM
People of Goodwill,
Fru Ndi is even worst a dictator than Biya.
SUFFER DON START
Posted by: Mamfe Pikin | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 12:33 PM
Ben Muna's FOOD FOR THOUGHT CENSORED!
Readers might have noticed that the FOOD FOR THOUGHT quoted from Ben MUna and posted as comment under the story "Col. Ngafor, Other SDF Militants in Kondengui" has disappeared from this forum, even from the archives.
If you doubt it, google "benb+food for thought". You won't find anything. Then google anything else on this forum and see the difference.
It is obvious the managers of Postnewsline (not Editors of The Post newspaper) have yielded to pressure from certain quarters to "delete" the powerful FOOD FOR THOUGHT that shows the Ben Muna many people don't know because of an organised campaign of lies telling and calumny carried over the years against the poor fellow.
While we salute The Post newspaper and online managers of Postnewsline (also not the newsroom webmaster of The Post) for this immeasurable privilege to have readers express themselves on this forum, we strongly condemn this mean act that smacks of selective exposure, undue favouritism and political corruption that shows they have bowed to the whims and caprices of those whose political vampirism has been laid bare and brought to nought.
We, therefore, might not take lightly assertions by Mukete that Ni John ordered his loyalists to "delete" stuff they consider in bad taste that appears on the internet.
We laughed over it because we were sure it would be an exercise in futility, an IT impossibility knowing that only the managers of Post newsline can cause that to happen.
Now, it looks like the evil network went to work and the man who brought all freedoms to Cameroon (and must therefore not be criticised in the press?) has succeeded to do the impossible, which even the world's superpowers find themselves impotent to do, that is censor the internet. Bravo!
That not withstanding, we're still thankful to The Post and Postnewsline for this privilege, even if only to be able to complain.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 01:48 PM
You may also check if the story "Col. Ngafor, Other SDF Militants in Kondengui" is still among past stories. To do that, click on "News" in the lefthand side column "Categories" and scroll up and down the list of stories. Maybe we didn't check carefully enough. Let us know if you find it, please and thanks.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:07 PM
BenB,
You are really a fool of the first degree.Keep disgracing yourself.You are only lucky that you carry a name that doesn´t exit.
Below is just to show that there has never been any censor here.If you still have anything left in your empty skull,then do immediately tender an appology to the postnewsline Management.
The Ngwasiri 'resignation' matter has been debated over and over again. People should stop inventing new procedures that don’t exist in administration. Yes, Mr Ngwasiri had submitted a resignation letter to Fru Ndi. In the evening, Fru Ndi asked him ‘who asked you to resign?’ He asked Ngwasiri to convene a NAC meeting that was already planned. Ngwasiri did that.
“You should understand that the outcome of a resignation depends on whether a boss accepts or refuses it. By the way, we have letters from Fru Ndi as chairman to Ngwasiri as recently as 2005 in which he addressed Ngwasiri as chairman of the advisory council.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:51 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXVI)
“I don’t have ambitions to be president. It isn’t an obsession for me. In any case, if people think I can do something, I’ll accept to serve my country. But truly, I’m not dying to be president of the republic. I’ve already made my name. I’ve left a track record in Africa. I don’t have to be president of the republic at all cost to be recognized as someone. I say this sincerely. And by the way, I can’t elect myself into office. It’s you, citizens, who have to decide.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:38 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXV)
“We behave as if Cameroon invented politics. Meanwhile it is science with clear indicators.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:29 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXIV)
“We won’t use the same methods as Fru Ndi. We won’t exclude anybody. [No 8.2]. Even those who pay allegiance to Fru Ndi have the right to do so. They have their opinion. They have the right to insist that Fru Ndi remains chairman of the SDF. We go to court because for us that is for the courts to clarify. If they realize that NEC was illegal, they’ll decide what to do. If they want to return to us, no problem. [They are welcome.]” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:24 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXIV)
“We didn’t say Fru Ndi couldn’t continue as chairman [before the conventions]. He could continue acting as chairman, but during those three, four years when NEC’s mandate expired, they took decisions with far-reaching consequences: dismissals, change of party rules, brought up new ideas that were foreign to the statutes of the party. We said no and asked them to return to order. [They didn’t heed to our call]. I’m convinced that our convention was legal and we are the legitimate group. The courts will pass judgment in line with that.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:14
Posted by: Fon | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:51 PM
Fon,
Thanks for teaching the illiterate cut and paste ignorant computer teacher BenB how to search for information on a simple website.I wonder what they'll say next.I've never seen a group of idiots celebrate mediocrity the way the guys do.
Truth pressed to earth shall rise again.
Posted by: Roki of Shanghai | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 03:07 PM
Thanks Axis gangsters.
Thanks for reading and absorbing. Thanks for using your IT expertise which I lack and helping me out. Thanks Postnewsline for returning it in time to save the public opinion damage that my Axis friends seem to be oblivious to; they don't understand.
Or better still, my apologies to the managers of Postnewsline.
"Maybe we didn't check carefully enough. Let us know if you find it, please and thanks."
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 03:36 PM
MISSING FOOD FOR THOUGHT RE-TRACED BY AXIS GANG
Food for Thought quoted from Ben Muna and posted here, but which disappeared briefly for unknown reasons, have been re-traced by members of the Axis of Fanatisicm, particularly the indefatigable Fon. Who knows his connections on this forum?
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 03:52 PM
Well,the court in bamenda could not entertain the case for fear of double jeopardy in law.Good!!!!!
So what next for the dictator,send his boys again to go begg biya.
Poor fru ndi.CDF(Chairman Don Finish) party king who is now toothless.
Vally
England.
Posted by: Vally | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 04:17 PM
When Professor Asonganyi told Ni John Fru Ndi that, "If a person eats a mixture of sleeping fufu and eru, Achu and fermented palm wine at the same time, then that person should be prepared to have running stomach", Ni John Fru Ndi retreated and then wispered into the ears of BAD Ndam, " I hope my little Dr. Cornelius Ndi can teach him medicine."
Unfortunately for Ni John Fru Ndi, he is having chronic running stomach in the absence of toilet paper.
Mukete
Posted by: mukete | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 11:45 PM
Ni John Fru Ndi is just like the dog carrying a large piece of fresh bone in its mouth as it crosses a stream. Seeing its shadow in the stream carrying "another piece of bone", the dog wanted to collect the other piece of bone in the stream. In doing so, the dog did not only lose the real piece of bone it had, but it feel into the stream, suffocated and died.
Ni John Fru Ndi is today harvesting the fruits of selfishness and greed. The love for money, property, power and position, couple with the fact that he is surrounded by people who carry these vices, is making him the most confused and frustrated political leader south of the sahara. If he had taken to advice and resigned at the peak of his political career, then this local hero from Baforchou should have made good history. Blind of illiteracy he couldn't learn from politicians like Nelson Mandela who left power before power could leave him. One can't make a good leader if he is not penetrated by advice.
Mukete
Posted by: mukete | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 12:00 AM
No one disputes the fact that president Paul Biya is the number one enemy of the country. Even his own Beti brothers will tell us that Biya has not only eaten all the food that late Amadou Ahidjo had preserved for the nation, but that after eating all the food and hiding some abroad, this frustrated seminary-trained thief from the thick forests in M'vomeka actually broke the pot from which the food was preserved. He never wanted the common man to eat.
The greatest desire in the hearts of all Cameroonians is to see the SDF chase president Paul Biya out of the presidency. But can a divided and undemocratic SDF do this? Can this be done when president Paul Biya is eating our food with the presumed leader of the SDF - Ni John Fru Ndi? Can this be effectively done when the presumed leader of the SDF - Ni John Fru Ndi- is the very person supporting and sustaining president Paul Biya in power? Can this be done when the presumed leader of the SDF is victimizing and dismissing all those SDF officials who have the capability of chasing Biya out? These are the questions we must address before we attempt hunting Biya in a united front.
We have to clean our house and be united, before we chase out our enemy. All those who lecture and labor on how to deal with president Paul Biya while the only hope - the SDF - is in mess, are wasting their time. This is why the revolution within the SDF is very important.
mukete
Posted by: mukete | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 12:14 AM
Mr Mukete,
If Ni John fru Ndi loved money,power and greed he should have been in the star-building today working as prime minister in a coalition government. Your CPDM has used all means even with the aid of dubious and selfish SDF militants like you to force Ni John Fru Ndi into Biya's government. The likes of Souleyman, Ben Muna , Justice Nyo Wakai had already openly declared their interest to join Biya's government. But Ni John Fru Ndi being the wise and seasoned poltician he is, only hinted that what happened to Bello Bouba, Issa Tchiroma, Prof. Henri Hogbe Nlend will never happen to me. So it is clear that those talking of an internal revolution only intend to get into Biya's government and may be help in the plunder!!!. For none of their intentions is backed by political ideology. No one has taken the pains to work out a social democratic platform that would work in a Biya government. I have always said this that the day the SDF enters government under this dispensation that would be the end of all its revolutions, 'internal' or external.
Mr. Mukete, if you were intelligible to decipher the style of my writing,you would realise that I don't take the pains to fault each and every statement in your comments. If I were to do that, I would have facts to fault every word at least 2 times. For example, Ni John Fru Ndi's son Cornelius is not a medical doctor they way you Mukete 'Know-everything'would claim. He is a mechanical engineer. So the statement 'Ni John Fru Ndi retreated and then wispered into the ears of BAD Ndam, " I hope my little Dr. Cornelius Ndi can teach him medicine." only shows how you can use your fantasy to make uninformed and naive people believe that you are thin-air around Ni John Fru Ndi.
Still, before you reduce yourself to a worthless writer, correct at least this one fact which almost every kid around Atuakom or Travellers would tell you. Ni John Fru Ndi does not hail from Baforchu. He was born and bred in Baba II. The rest of your fantasy writing only serve the purpose of palm-wine house talk.
Still waiting for the tonne of evidence.
Posted by: Feli | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 01:48 AM
I wonder if we could get a good leader from the old Generation which mines have cancer of Corruption, Dictatorship,Lack of respect to the role of Law and Kingship as thier basic concept of leadership.
Do we need a despotic ruler? answer is No.
So my fellow Cameroonians it is high time we start think of not holding any Democratical elected position for more than 2 terms.
If Ni Fru or what the call him wasn´t a repelicant of the Biya regime SDF would have been in power today 16 years and more after the lunching.
Fru wasn´t born as a leader of SDF so let him allow another person to sit at the helm.
Cameroon is getting down wards today because we allow the same people with the same ideologies to govern our civil society.
Who on earth cann´t rule?Anybody can rule so lets advice Biya,Fru,Bello,kodock,Ndam and a host of other Kings to step down for other commrades to have thier chance till we become a better Democracy and a country were speration of power is the basis of administration and role of law respected.
Gods will we shall have a better Cameroon
Posted by: Boyst | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 03:27 AM
Atangha George alias Feli,
I can see that you are successfully defending your paper-gathering job. The sad news is that it is not helping your CDF camp. Feel free to repent. Like Ni Ben said in his interview people like you will be welcomed back into the fold.
Posted by: Teribobs | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 04:57 AM
Ha ha
Wonna go kill man for this forum ooohh, i have said it time and again and i will continue to say it please let Ni John Fru Ndi step down and call for a national reconciliation to end this matter for he will be disgraced, Bad NDAm and Co of the the Commercial Wing (CDF) have fail JFN,Anglophones and all SDF Millitants and i know Yde is just playing for time now but the ruling is clear no court will ever rule for the benefit of Fru Ndi because the Status of the party is clear. I no the NGUMBA HOUSE ( CDF NEC ) holds almost every two days (telefon conference calls) to sort out issues and strategies. The RDPC has told them that they will not forge any court ruling against the text of the Party.
Massa oooh the debate continues.
SDF = "POWER TO THE PEOPLE AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES"
CDF = "POWER TO THE CHAIRMAN" AND PERSONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR GRINDING DOUGH"
NB: IF ANY BODY ON THIS FORUM KNOWS THE CHAIRMAN'S "LINE ROUGE" (private cellnumber) call him and ask him to step down for his honour as a one time leader of the opposition and he should confess to all Cameroonians about his dealing with the RDPC and BIYA so as to keep his fame(although ey don die finish kwata kwata)
Peace and Love
Boysus Ongola (Yaounde)
Posted by: Boysus | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 05:21 AM
I have said over and over again that it is not my problem if any one associates with with another person. I thought those who claim to have sophisticated softwares would be quick to point out that I am no where close to Cameroon. But enough of that. I did not come here to discuss my person but to use Mr. Mukete and educate diasporans about the SDF and what it truly stands for. Anything outside that is solely distraction.
Now to Ni Ben. I respect him but that does not change the fact that he is very, very power-hungry. Not only that, he is dishonest and in many aspects incompetent. I do not believe in cheap talk. I am not Mukete. I buttress my claims with facts. A Danish journalist researched on Ni Ben's sojourn in Arusha and came to the conclusion that he was grossly incompetent, corrupt and dishonest. He even lied to his boss Carla Del Ponte on several occassions. Do your research on the internet and you will be amazed of the appauling image Ben Muna has within the international community. I did not want to reveal this because of my respect for him but some amateur bootlickers on this forum have forced me to.
Start with these articles by Bjorn Willum http://www.willum.com/articles/aktuelt15mar2000/index.htm
Les magouilles du procureur Bernard Muna
Update on ICT
By Bjørn Willum, Paris correspondent of the Danish daily Berlingske Tidende [email protected]
As regards some of my previous articles for the now departed Danish daily newspaper Aktuelt, I can inform you that Chief Prosecutor at the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, Carla Del Ponte, recently decided to rid her Rwandan offices of a number of incompetent staff, including her Deputy Prosecutor, Bernard Muna.
During the months of February, March and April, 2000, Gunnar Willum and I were unfortunately quite alone in reporting the appalling lack of professionalism prevailing at the Tribunal. [http://www.willum.com/articles/aktuelt18apr2000_2/index.htm].....
...also ran a story on how Deputy Prosecutor Bernard Muna's lack of will to cooperate with an outside team of experts threatened the conviction of key organizers of the hate media campaign, [http://www.willum.com/articles/aktuelt15mar2000/index.htm] which played a crucial role in the execution of the Rwanda Genocide. Some of the people whom we alleged to have mismanaged the investigation and preparation of the media case, most notably Bernard Muna himself, were among those people sacked by Carla Del Ponte.
These sackings seem to have come as a surprise to most observers and the general media, the latter having been quiet on the issue until the non-renewal of the contracts of a number of employees was suddenly discovered by the press in mid-May 2001. But in fact Del Ponte had such intentions for a long time as we reported after meeting her in April 2000. [http://www.willum.com/articles/aktuelt18apr2000_1/index.htm]....
There is so much on Ni Ben that I sincerely don't know where to start.
Read Justice Nyo'o Wakai's 'Inside the fence' Page 46 and you will see for yourself what sort of a man Ni Ben is. Can you imagine that he used to frequent the presidency as early as 1992 when SDF militants were being tormented by Biya's forces? And that he wanted the Chairman to sign into Biya's forged results which would have incriminated all of those arrested during the State of Emergency?. One reason I have a lot of respect for Ni John Fru Ndi is that he did not blindly follow that advice from Ni Ben otherwise the likes of Nyo Wakai, Hameni Bieleu, Francis Sama, Ophelia Sendze,Simon Abongwa, Alhadji Umaru etc would have been tried for treason and would have recieved at least 15 years each in Kondengui. It means they should have only been contemplating with their release some time next year. What a horror scenario!
So you would agree with me that Ni Ben is a liar,incompetent and dishonest. I would never allow such a person to lead my party or my country.Never!
Posted by: Feli | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 09:07 AM
Feli Atangha George,
Everyone can now see why you changed your pseudonym. At the appointed time you will answer the charges. Never mind. We will not let you know how you are going to be unveiled. Time will tell. keep defending your job. BAD NDAM can supply all the calumnies. He is an old broom when it comes to that. We already know him so we do not bother about his imaginary and wishful thinking. Yi don see weti? fufu don tight for yi hand.
Boysus, I like that 'POWER TO THE CHAIRMAN AND PERSONAL OPPORTUNITIES...
Posted by: Teribobs | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 10:28 AM
Feli thanks for those websites.They speak for themselves.I respect Ben Muna just like you do but reading such an international disgrace as such keeps my head ticking.If Ben Muna can openly lie to someone of Carla De Ponte's calibre, Chief Prosecutor at the United Nations, The Hague,without blinking an eye,then he is a liar, born and bred.What impression does he leave in Arusha,Kigali,the United Nations about Cameroonians?That Cameroonians are corrupt,cheats,incompentent freaks.
He is the first to open his mouth and praise himself in "le messager" for a job well done in Arusha and Kigali.His "copy and paste" stooge who can't use a search engine properly would try to show us what an angel his fake,opportunist,incompetent chairman Ben Muna is by doing what he does best, copying and pasting portions of scripture and homilies of lies.
If he was an honest man,he would have told us how he was summoned to the Hague and fired like a "boy boy" in one of those Nigerian movies.
Having fallen to his grave in Arusha and Kigali, the place where he could have left a big name in the annals of the United Nations,there's no other place to plant his bad seed but back home.
This is evidence that Ben Muna wants power by all cost.Power should not be given to those who want it by force.He now wants to maim,stifle,suffocate the SDF.This is the person some people are looking up to as their future president.NOT ME.If it is not Fru Ndi, it'll be some one else,maybe not yet born but NOT BEN MUNA.
This is truth coming to light.
Truth pressed to earth shall rise again.
Posted by: Roki of Shanghai | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 11:09 AM
Published in Rwanda Newsline (Rwanda)
May 29, 2000
ICTR: Chief Prosecutor Promises Clean-Up at UN Tribunal
THE HAGUE
Well-informed sources at the UN International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda have confirmed that the UN body is suffering from nepotism, and the leadership of the Tribunal are having an internal power struggle to employ as many friends and connections as possible, although these are often completely useless and have never done any investigative work before then.
This information was disclosed after several remarks made by numerous employees at the Tribunal, whom a Dutch-based newspaper, Aktuelt spoke to recently while investigating the conditions at the Tribunal for several months.
"Nepotism and cronyism are thriving. Many are only employed on their CV without an interview," a former investigator says, estimating that "to be conservative" 30-50% of those already there are unqualified for the positions they hold.
"Many investigators just want to milk the UN machine. They don't care about the Genocide," the person says, explaining how many people manipulate their CVs in order to get a lucrative job.
The Chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR) Carla Del Ponte has disclosed that the tribunal facing some problems including nepotism and incompetence.
She talking to these correspondents in the Hague a few weeks ago. "It is true, there are some problems at our offices in Kigali and in Arusha and with our work," Del Ponte admitted. "Some employees do not have sufficient experience to do investigations work. But I have only been Prosecutor for six months. It takes time to find out the situation."
"But now I have the situation," she said adding that now it is time for cleaning up at the Tribunal's departments in Arusha, Tanzania and Kigali, Rwanda.
First step will be the nomination of a new chief for the investigations in Kigali. That will be Laurent Walpen, the former police chief of Geneva. He knows what needs to be done, Del Ponte disclosed.
The next step will be a serious talk with her deputy, Bernard Muna, whom she called to the Hague recently to "talk about things". And this issue is unlikely to have been confronted in a soft-pedalling fashion.
"Those investigators who are not competent will not remain there," Del Ponte promised. "It is not in my nature to make compromises." And the Secretary-General of NATO, the world's most powerful military organisation, believes that Clara Del Ponte is one determined lady, when he paid a visit just before Aktuelt's interview
Del Ponte does not seem to be afraid of anyone. But perhaps there are some people who ought to begin being afraid of her - not only the war criminals from Rwanda, but also some of those investigators in Kigali who are employed to account for and prove their atrocities.
CONGRATS MUNA AND SUPPORTERS. YOU SEEM TO DODGE THE FACTS AND TRY TO SOUND PROVOCATIVE.THAT WOULD NOT HELP. MUNA IS NOT FIT EVEN TO BE A VILLAGE HEAD OF ONLY 100 PEOPLE.
Posted by: lawson | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 11:34 AM
FeliAtanghaGeorge,
I urge readers to follow the links you've given here and see if they make any sense and when you find time from crying and packing ya files out of the office at the National Assembly you may want to read this link:
http://www.antiwar.com/malic/?articleid=1990
"The Madness of Carla Del Ponte
Out In the Open At Last
by Nebojsa Malic
... Del Ponte has specialized in making unsubstantiated allegations, in the press as well as the courtroom, and the media have become used to it. But this was so shocking, only the dedicated ICTY supporters such as the London IWPR embraced it enthusiastically..."
Then read from this BBC link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1809185.stm
"Profile: Carla Del Ponte
Carla Del Ponte has been nicknamed "the new Gestapo", "the whore", "the unguided missile" and "the personification of stubbornness"..."
After reading those, you'll understand why anyone bearing the name of a Danish journalist propped up by Del Ponte would have written the smear campaign FeliAtanghaGeorge is now using as the funeral song for their COMMERCIAL WING.
Who doesn't know why Carla Del Ponte was sacked from her UN prosecution job? Her job combined both the Rwanda and Yugoslavia Tribunals. She was sacked from the Rwanda tribunal and was on her knees as she was going to be removed from the Yugoslavia Tribunal too.
Of course, one of the reasons was she couldn't take advice from Muna and his team who mastered the Rwanda file better than she did, spending her time more at the Hague than in Arusha.
She began a smear campaign to discredit Muna, but the wolrd understood. Kofi Annan understood, but Muna thought that was too mean of a world figure as Del Ponte to carry out under hand methods. He quit.
You know Muna quits when people refuse to see and lets time prove him out.
Today we have two Cameroonian judges doing UN tribunal work (not exactly Muna's kind of work there though), Benjamin Itoe and Florence Arrey. Wait for their return and hear them tell their story how people foreign to the African setting stand in the way of progress of their work.
No worry ya sef ya FeliAtanghaGeorge. The clock is ticking for you. Start packing ya papers from da office. Na cry wok di worry you so.
You can claim to be quoting stuff from Greenland or even the Artic and Antarctica circles to pretend you're not in Cameroon, you no you're at the National Assembly dying to defend BAD Ndam because his fall is you're demise.
Going to "dig" imaginary stuff that far should show your Axis gangsters who don't understand as you do that the church bells are ringing for the funeral of the COMMERCIAL WING. My poor friends who follow without knowing the truth.
Find something else to say, my friend.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 12:11 PM
Can any good come out of Shanghai? Akoson is so proud to call himself Roki of Shanghai. This guy is a born dreamer. Keep dreaming while others like the venerated Ni Ben are building.
BenB, I knew you were going to unravel this calumny. Feli Atangha George cannot hide. BAD NDAM is using him like he did with his predecessors. I have advised him several times to start looking for a new job. Chairman Don Finish so they are on their way out. It is a pity BAD NDAM the feyman has made his money. I wonder where Feli Atangha George will keep his head when time catches on him.
Posted by: Teribobs | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 01:33 PM
Comparing Ni John Fru Ndi with educated people like Bouba Bello, Kodock, Ndam Njoya, and many other learned politicians is pure nonsense. If these people can become Ministers or Primeministers, the VERY LOW EDUCATION of Ni John Fru Ndi couldn't have made him such. If Paul Biya had proposed this post to Ni John, then it was game. Just imagine the type of duty as Prime Minister before intellectuals like the Achidi Achu, Musonge Peter, Inoni I, and ask yourself if Ni John Fru Ndi can perform them. Even if I am NOT personally for Ben Muna, I would prefer him to Ni John Fru Ndi. This is chosing between two devils.
Ni John Fru Ndi do not have the academic qualifications and International knowledge to occupy some of the Posts Ben Muna occupied, and so we can not tell what he might have done if he occupied the posts. Besides, what Ben Muna had done abroad can not be used to judge his performance inside Cameroon. There are Africans who use all opportunities given in International jobs to "Bring back" our money to Africa. These are people who have the belief that these moneys lying in foreign banks belong to Africa: from its oil, cocoa, coffe, minerals, slaves, etc. If Ben Muna used his position abroad to bring our money back, then I find nothing wrong in that. And if we have to believe all the propaganda coming up now, then we would expect Ben Muna to be a very rich to the extent that he does not need money again. We all know why it is better to have a very rich man as president than having a poor man. Why all these stories about Ben Muna only now? Would they have come up if he had remained the Campaign Manager of Ni John Fru Ndi?
On the other hand, I do not care whether Ben Muna is a devil or a saint. We have given Ni John Fru Ndi the chance and after 15 years we find completely nothing good from him. Surely, with the awareness now among Cameroonians, no other leader would be given the long time we gave Ni John Fru Ndi before passing judgement. Despite all the false propaganda against Ben Muna - and even if they are true - between Ni John Fru Ndi and Ben Muna, who of the two is fit to be the president of this country?
mukete
Posted by: mukete | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 02:36 PM
THE VERY ME,
MUKETE AGAINST BIG DEGREE LEADERS
When I hear people use big degrees as proof of their "highest faculty of reasoning", I always remember how the well known Prof. Dr. T. Fomum of the University of Yaounde I (a very humble Born Again Christian, with many international and original publications) once defined a Ph.D.
According to Professor T. Fomum, a Scientist of International recognition and International Academic awards,
a PhD holder is a "POOR HOPELESS DRUNKARD"
I have known PhD holders who have gone down to those with a "simple first degree" to gather knowledge. The author of Things Fall Apart did not need to obtain a PhD before doing the great works he has been doing. I mean, his Books are used in Universities the world over.
When Ahmadou Ahidjo, an "illiterate (though far much educated than I am) picked Paul Biya (The highly educated - relatively to Ahmadou Ahidjo - and graduated from abroad for that matter)from the corner of the road as a useless stone and made him President for all Cameroonians, many of us naively thought that Paul Biya was going to change things for the better. Instead, this graduate from abroad , Paul Biya, took Ahidjo's progressing nation fifty years backward. This Paul Biya who had gathered all type of "jamais vu" skills from universities abroad and even from God's Seminary here in Cameroon, has not only eaten everything Ahmado Ahidjo left for us in the pot, but the nitwit has actually transferred most of the food abroad and has BROKEN the pot in which more food can be stored in Cameroon.
When I hear Cameroonians use words like education, intelligence, knowledge, analitic skills and all nonsense in order to beg for respect, I just want to vomit. These are people who have reduced Cameroon into mud. These are people who have conspired in their hearts to intimidate the common man who has never gone to school. These are people who would stand up in parties, church services, fund raising, and even death ceremonies to say "Call Me Doctor", while we, the illiterate put our hands into our pockets to fetch the money actually needed.
As Minister of Territorial Adminitration, Mr. Ayissi M'vondo once made the then Prime Minister Paul Biya - a graduate from abroad - to go throw his big books and degrees to the pigs. As Paul Biya tried to force his "high administrative skills" from abroad on Mr. Ayissi M'vondo, Mr. Ayissi gave him a SOUND PUBLIC SLAP in his face. I saw it! With thick fluid running from his nose and tears flowing dow his eyes, the confused Prime Minister Paul Biya, walked ( I mean on foot)to the Presidency to tell Ahmadou Ahidjo that "Papa, Monsieur Ayissi m'a battu". As Paul Biya left the presidency, on foot again, Ahmadou Ahidjo, after laughing, phoned Mr. Ayissi to say, "Paul Biya est un enfant timid".
From some of these experiences, with my VERY VERY LOW LEVEL of education, I am able to stand up and challenge the socalled "Highly educated". Cameroon does not need big books. What we need is development even if it comes from illiterate like Mukete and the rest. And this is why we remain thankful to The Post for giving us - the less educated, the sans degrees - the opportunity to freely express our own personal views. And believe me, we are doing our best to show that a nation can not be built only by the so-called educated.
People come and go but the Nation remains. With or without "big books" or "big Degrees", Cameroon will remain as a Nation.
YES,NA ME THE CONFUSIONIST.
MUKETE YEEAAAHHHH!
Posted by: mukete | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 08:21 PM
I DEY FOR CANADA,CANADA,CANADA AGAIN. JEALOUSY GO KILL UNA YEEAAAHH.
BUT EVEN THOUGH I STILL GER ALL INCIDE INFORMATION ABOUT CDF.
U WANT PROVE? OK NA HIN DIS FOR TELL UNA SAY I BI FIRST CLASS BUSHFALLER YEEAAHHH!EVEN I HATE LOW CLASS BUSHFALLER DEM FROM GERMANY, HOLLAND,CHINA,SOUTH AFRICA,FRANCE,INSHORT EUROPE
MUKETE NUMBER UNO
Once in a while our Friend from Ontario, Canada, Mr. Mukete, makes some sense. Hopefully this is the beginning of New year New Fashion for him.
Posted by: excel | Thursday, 05 January 2006 at 12:57 PM
Posted by: mukete | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 08:45 PM
"And believe me, we are doing our best to show that a nation can not be built only by the so-called educated"
"People come and go but the Nation remains. With or without "big books" or "big Degrees", Cameroon will remain as a Nation.
(mukete a few months ago,ON BIG BOOKS)
"Comparing Ni John Fru Ndi with educated people like Bouba Bello, Kodock, Ndam Njoya, and many other learned politicians is pure nonsense. If these people can become Ministers or Primeministers, the VERY LOW EDUCATION of Ni John Fru Ndi couldn't have made him such"
(mukete today)
he actually thinks Ni John can`t be a minister or prime minister like the people he named.
What fanatism and blindness.
Ahidjo to u was an "illiterate" but he ruled cameroon so well before Paul biya.
Ok there are classes and classes of illiterates. ASHIA FOR U
If u write here mukete, it means u can sell shame and buy disgrace.
NEMESIS CATCH AM
Posted by: Lawson | Saturday, 22 July 2006 at 11:55 PM
Feli,Klemenceau,Fon,Akoson,Atangha,Mimi,
Roki,Mbu B,
Thank you guys for taking the fight to the doorsteps of the Jacques Chiracs,Buthelezis,Munas of the world.I just caught the train there by the tail,and discovered that tramps are incessantly,but unsuccessfully trying to set the hands of the clock behind.I took off four weeks to cool off as is the tradition each year,and i read with a wry smile on my face ,how slow learners became estatic and went into rhapsodies celebrating their perceived disertion.Lie! That will never happen!If we could not disert when the party was launched in Bamenda with the massive presence of the forces of disorder,if we could not disert during the state of emegency,if we could not disert during the count down to the two conventions,it is not now that the SDF is comfortably in our hands that we will disert.It is really amazing to discover that all type of old skeletons came out of their cupboards,and are already assuming the status of circumstancial stars.But before i run into a reverie,here is the thought of the Week:
1."The Sdf was not founded in a courtroom,
and will never have the court as its executor"
2. "The SDf was not founded by Newspapers ,
and has never,nor will owe its existence to them"
Conventional wisdom teaches us that if you want to transcend beyond the petit ironies of man,you should go an extra mile to break from what previously ensued ,and which you think outdated.A look at our political landscape today gives us a completely contrary view .Politician have become copy-cats.They actually live the fame of others ,and outrightly refuse to be pull out of the stupor they find themselves in.What makes a man stand out is originality
,creativity .For a long time now the SDF party has been a victim of some sort of hawkish desire to taint its original blueprint ,and take it to whores.Or else how do you reconcile the fact that a politician who assumes to be acting constitutionally comforts himself scheduling a convention of factional peace disturbers on the same day as that of the SDF,that Ben Muna will shamelessly refuse to get out of Fru Ndi`s shadow ,and goes around telling people that he wants to change the SDf by fighting Fru Ndi for telling lies to people.Where is therefore the novelty in his actions? If he keeps happing about Fru Ndi,are we not assisting in a continuation of personality conflict,whereas he would have been implanting his new movement with making mention of FRu Ndi? One thing is clear in Cameroon,that Fru Ndi has transformed many a politician in Cameroon from social dwarfs to social giraffs.Ben Muna knows that the little power he pretends to wield is no match to Fru Ndi.His father`s name,his reputation as a Lawyer,his family background ,all put together has not yielded the fruits over the years to overwhelm Fru Ndi.He has resorted to Newspapers,going as low as making a thousand courtesy calls to their news organs.But all of this is vain pride.What matters is that Ben Muna must know who he is and where he is coming from.He should not forget that:
1. The Reconciliation forum of 2004 readmitted him,and that if he pretends that the mandate of NEC expired in April 2003,he is therefore putting a question mark about his membership.
2. His cirtificate of Participation signed
September 8,2004 in Bamenda reads:
"We recommended that you accepted henceforth as a member of the party..Accordingly ,you will enjoy all rights and privileges of membership as provided for under the constitution as from time to time amended and those contained in the regulatory provisions.At the same time ,you should realise that you will be subjected to all the discipline of the party"
3.Thus,he precipated himself into abusing the rights and privileges conferrred on him by his readmission.
This man Muna ,a supposed Legal Luminary
would have been the one to champion legality
in all its facets,but to the displeasure of all Cameroonians,and the whole world,he tramples on all what he has built his career
on.We remember that in an interview with Cameroon Tribune,on May 29,2006, the Senior
Divisional officer for Mfoundi made it crystal clear,that the Assistant Prefect for Yaounde 2 had placed a ban on the Yaounde convention on March 31st 2006.That not withstanding,Muna carried on with his activities that led to the subsequent death of a militant.He is today using the death of this same militant to taunt the SDF.
Cameroonians are completely taken aback
when they discover that Muna has nothing to propose to the betterment of their predicatment,but keeps procrastinating about the verdict that will come out from the Yaounde courts.No right thinking SDf militant will be afraid of any court verdict from CPDM courts.The SDf has always lived through the distortion of laws by the French sponsored puppets in Yaounde.In 1992 we all saw how sweat was oozing out from the fountain that was given the arduous task to proclaim Presidential elections.The SDf is a social phenomenon ,and is not static in anyway.We can decide to take the KADIMA course to bring more shame to Muna and his gang.The lable SDF sells because of the dynamism of its chairman,not the International Feymania Ben Muna subjecting Cameroonians to.This is somebody who is tarnishing the image of Cameroon internationally ,by involving himself in clietelism in Rwanda.If Muna can become unbearable in a poor country like Rwanda,which needs upliftment,rather than feymania,then this man should be tried in Cameroon for high treason.When evidence is brought to the for for Cameroonians to see the negativity that has always surrounded his actions ,he sends out slow learners,who excel in nothing but lingua franca to do some damage control on the columns of the Postnewsline. Newsmen have always gone scaling walls to get information from and about Fru Ndi,but Muna has become a plaything in the hands of journalist.We know how Eric Motumo was manhandled when he went eavesdropping ,this shows how pathetic he had become to get information about Fru Ndi.
All those who make a mockery of Fru Ndi as being illiterate,but turns around to contradict themselves of not being degree holders,but but happy to be of low education should know i`m back from holiday,and will not tolerate this type of brazen-face jumble and stupidity.All those half-baked academic adventurers who specialise in cheap-side language ,and celebrate the Postnewsline when they bring up sensational headlines about Fru Ndi,but accuse the Post of siding with Fru Ndi when their pidgin refuses to occupy space that is meant for hardfacts,should know that i`m back from holiday ,and should carry on with the punch.
Finally,the SDF as a social force will live for many decades to come.The CPDm can even partition it and hand over the spoils to those clamouring for its demise,but the idea behind this party is not going to be killed.This idea is what makes them tremble everyday."If you want to trade with the wind,you should have wings".
Posted by: Watesih | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 12:33 AM
It interesting to see Klamenceau, Fon Lawrence, Watesih, Akoson, Aaron Nyangkwe, Feli and other blind supporters of Ni John Fru Ndi now using the fake Mukete to be making a "comparative study" of my write ups. This is the new strategy they have invented, but they fail to understand that my diverse opinion on one and the same issue or topic only gives credit to my objectivity. They should please post my previous write ups in support of Ni John Fru Ndi (e.g., when he brutalized a Newspaper seller in his compound), in support of the Bamenda man (The Bamenda Man, by Charlie Mbonteh), against Ben Muna, etc. I have challenged the apparent literates boosting in this forum but today, I am appreciating the role of literates in the SDF. I do not sleep when I wake only to fall to sleep again.
Times and situations change, and this means that I am not static in my reasoning and convictions. I am a dynamic person, who reasons and acts according to changing times, situations and events. I stood solidly behind Ni John Fru Ndi, but today I stand completely against him. I was carried away by his hypocrasy until I saw the light that I am bringing here today. I had acknowledged before that an illiterate, too, like Ahidjo and Ni John Fru Ndi, could rule but today I am convinced that the degree of illiteracy in Ni John Fru Ndi can not permit him to offer. A certain Biology Textbook states that "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." Likewise, all illiterates are equal but some illitrates are more equal than others. Ahidjo and Ni John Fru Ndi of the 90s were illiterates but the Ni John Fru Ndi of TODAY is a stack illiterate who has refused to learn. Ahidjo the illiterate could at least say "I do so swear" in English without reading, but for 15 years and with modern technology the hyper-illiterate Ni John Fru Ndi can not pronounce even a single word in French. Ni John Fru Ndi's illiteracy is a disease.
And the fake mukete should know that even if an illiterate is a president (like in the years behind or even in military governments), AN ILLITERATE IS HARDLY A PRIME MINISTER. That Paul Biya wanted to name a stack illiterate like Ni John Fru Ndi is false propaganda.
Bravo to the fake mukete, for at least exposing my objectivity in the way I see things. Please dig out more of my write ups rather than cutting off only sections. At least the fake mukete has demonstrated that the name mukete and his stuff is selling as hot cake. They are giving me an importance which I do not deserve. Little and poor me!
I think readers now understand the destruction that would have been caused to this forum should I have given in to intimidations and surrender. Where are those who wanted to crucify me: Klamenceau, Fon Lawrence, Watesih, Akoson, Knganjo, Aaron Nyangkwe?
mukete
Posted by: mukete | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 12:51 AM
You see, I have pulled Watesih back into the forum. Unfortunately he has not yet learned to control the elasticity of his mouth. Soon the others will follow him. Is it not ironical to see these blind supporters of Ni John Foolish Ndi taking off leave only when I bring undisputable facts here? Why is Watesih coming back only now? Why is it that we are soon going to be reading from Klamenceau, Knganjo, Akoson (who is using a different name), Fon Lawrence (who is dropping his Lwawrence so that he is not identified), Aaron Nyangkwe (who has not got the favours he was expecting from Ni John Foolish Ndi).
These empty vessels have demonstrated that they are real cawards. They go into hiding only to develop new strategies to make me surrender. Their last two strategies involved cutting sections of my write ups and making use of them in their distortions, and now, they are actually copying my complete write ups, when they blindly find contradictions in them. They are still to learn that in politics nothing is permanent. It was this lack of common sense that push Ni John Foolish Ndi into waging an early war against the French and Paul Biya, only to be dinning secretly with them today.
I am monitoring Ni John Foolish Ndi on a minute by minute basis. Tomorrow I will be with him in church. If he shits carelessly or coughs in a disgraceful manner I will report to this form.
Mukete
Posted by: mukete | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 01:07 AM
Watesih,
Who took who to court in Bamenda? I thought you came back from hiding with some freshness in your dry brain. But you remain the same blind supporter of lies and distortion. Of all the nonsense contained in your cry die, the only truth you made reference to is the fact that Mbu B. is also a masked blind supporter of Ni John Foolish Ndi. You also learned from me that the learned "MBu. B" should have been writing his name as Mbu B. Even in your frustration during the forceful leave you took, you could at least learn from the Mad mukete. I hope Mbu B. now makes the necessary corrections, because it is never a shame to learn - even from a mad man.
But where were you when the current news item was published? I hope you have come to stay, and when next you make reference to people be honest to call their names. There is no reader here who will beat you like a child - the way that Ni John Foolish Ndi trashed up a Newspaper seller in his compound. You people should not present the name mukete as something harmful.
I am still to react to the collection of nonsense you have just written.
mukete
Posted by: mukete | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 01:20 AM
Watesih again,
Did you need to go into hiding and take a cool head with the use of dictionaries to write the tons of trash you have just written? Why do you people call courts as CPDM courts only when their decisions are against your selfish interests? Who banned the Ngwasiri planned convention in Yaounde? Was it not a CPDM administrator? Who sentenced the Fon of Balikumbat to prison? Were they not CPDM judges? Was the legal team of Ni John Fru Ndi not aware of the political affiliation of the Bamenda-based Judge before tendering their case in the case? Were they not expecting something good from the CPDM judge? Was it not Charles Ndouba (CPDM Secretary General) who was the guest of honour at the Bamenda convention? Ben Muna was coincidentally elected inside the SDF secretariat while Ni John Foolish Ndi was accepted as Chairman inside a CPDM congress hall.
When will you people stop this song on CPDM, especially when your selfish interests are on the balace. Why are you people now linking but Ben Muna to the SDF convention in Yaounde? That convention was called, organized and planned by the president of the legal National Advosory Council (NAC), Professor Ngwasiri, who unfortunately was suffering from the effect of the Tear gaz that the thugs sent by Ni John Foolish Ndi had sponsored. Although Ben Muna was a mere candidate for the presidency, he could not have let the convention fail simply because Professor Ngwasiri was in hospital suffering from the tear gaz that Ni John Foolish Ndi prepared to suffocate him in Bamenda. For the supreme interest of the party, Ben Muna, although a mere candidate, joined hands with thousands of SDF militants - some from Bamenda itself - to make the convention a success.
Ni John Foolish Ndi had always wanted to project Ben Muna as the trouble-maker and he had always thought that he could put everyone against Ben Muna. Unfortunately for him, others have realized this his inborn divide and rule tactic. When Ni John Foolish Ndi heard that Professor Ngwasiri was in hospital suffering from the tear gaz that he had given to his Ntarikon Taliban militia in Bamenda (before leaving for the UK), he thought he could intimidate Ben Muna into surrendering. That was why he instucted Biya-trained Army Colonel Chi to bring him Ben Muna dead or alive. Unable to get Ben Muna, only the eyes of Gregoire were received in palace.
To show that Ni John Foolish Ndi's main hatred is for Ben Muna, Ni John Foolish Ndi thought that by buying support from the Fon of Mendankwe so as to take back Professor Ngwasiri, he would isolate Ben Muna and then present him as the trouble-make. Ni John Foolish Ndi has failed in all his attempts at isolating Ben Muna and blackmailing him. He could answer the many questions that the Fon asked him and on leaving the palace he was snobed by even the Chindas.
It is rather unfortunate to be hearing you people only making reference to Ben Muna when it comes to talking about the Yaounde convention. It is no secret that the brain behind this convention was Professor Ngwasiri. The main difference between the two conventions is that for the Yaounde convention, the main brain behind it (Professor Ngwasiri) never wanted to be the Chairman of the SDF and he never applied for this post. On the other hand, the sham of a convention that took place in Bamenda under the patronage of the CPDM secretary General had Ni John Foolish Ndi as the main organizer and the sole candidate for the post of chairman. This is clear enough to show that the main organizer in Yaounde (Professor Ngwasiri) was never out to grab power. Ni John Foolish Ndi wanted power by all means.
When you take so long to write the trash you have just posted, try to have it read by some of your gang leaders before bringing it here.
mukete
Posted by: mukete | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 01:54 AM
Dear Readers,
You must have realized that I have tried my best, using my humble abilities to make it known that the many readers of this forum are not fools. I have used the best of my abilities to ensure that readers are not only allowed their rights to freely express themselves, but that they should be addressed as people who reason and analize things.
Readers must have realized that despite all what some of us are doing to bring some maturity in this forum, there are still people who continue to tell us that white is black. They continue to take us as fools and they still nurse the feeling that they can still transform us back into the Guinea pigs that Ni John Foolish Ndi has been using for his selfish political career. They intentionally take leave just to go and put their lies in order. When they come back, they think they are coming to teach fools. This is exactly what Watesih has just done.
I am now warning these elements of hate, division, lies, distortion, evil, etc., that if they continue to take readers for fools, then I will be forced into taking a very radical stance in this forum. If I do, there will be no clear-cut limit between private and public life. If they continue, then I will be forced to use all data and facts available to make them repent. In doing this, it wouldn't botter me exposing graphic data. I mean what I am saying.
The following elements of distortion are seriously warned - for the benefit of the lord they are prepared to die for: Klamenceau, Watesih, Knganjo, Akoson, Aaron Nyangkwe, Fon Lawrence, Feli, the fake mukete ...
They should not say I never warned them.
mukete
Posted by: mukete | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 02:10 AM
Mr Mukete,
If Biya's government has been paying you money to do the dirty job of shadowing Ni John Fru Ndi and till date you can not provide even an iota of evidence to bring the Chairman from grace to grass after threatening to do so for months, it means either you are very incompetent in your job or the Chairman has absolutely nothing to hide.
If you can accuse Ni John Fru Ndi of brutality, vandalism, blood-drinking and primitive sorcery and you say you shall monitor him today in CHURCH, it means one of you is a first-degree hypocrite. This leaves you with the option to clear your name of lies-telling and bring the evidence which implicates Ni John Fru Ndi of brutality, vandalism, blood-drinking and primitive sorcery!!!
Otherwise, you tell us and your paymasters in Yaounde the truth that there is nothing tangible to write home about and that Ni John Fru Ndi has nothing to hide! It will do Cameroon much good if all of its politicians could boast of that. Having nothing to hide!!!
Posted by: Feli | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 02:13 AM
Mukete,
you are very quick at saying that someone wrote nonsence on this forum when you write and preach absolute nonsence here day in day out.
You have never contributed anything on this forum from which one can learn or which can help the suffering masses in one way or the other.you are only heard when it comes to talking ill about Fru Ndi and the sdf.What a shame mukete.learn to preach peace and not hatred and division,shame mukete,i say shame again,you are the devil`s workshop.
You write-ups cant help this country in anyway.
You are absent where one would have expected you to be present,once the Sdf and Fru Ndi and here you are heard.Use the knowledge that you claim to posses to post valuable informattion on this forum so that so of us can help ourselves out and this will earn you a red feather on your cap and stop helping to devide people.
Or maybe you should be helping your father in Kumba to run his thugs and bring mesery to bear on innocent people.
Shame oldboy,try to be construction and not destructive
Posted by: ndema | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 02:29 AM
Mr. Mukete,
I am glad you never fail in giving me misleading information so that I can show clearly to every one reading this forum that you are a LIAR. Charles Doumba was no where close to the congress hall in Bamenda during the SDF convention. Your CPDM like MDI,UDP, and several other political parties attended the anniversary rally at the municipal stadium. The CPDM delegation was led by Tazong Abel Ndeh and because the SDF believes in peace and dialogue, even the CPDM was given the opportunity to deliver its message of good-will to the hearing of the Bamenda people. After this ceremony, the delegation left. The only other political parties which proceeded to the congress hall from the municipal stadium were MP and MDI represented by Dr. Kisob. After the official opening of the convention, only Jean-Jaques Ekindi spoke on behalf of a political party in the congress hall. The CPDM was NOT present. I listened keenly to the report of the accreditation committee.
Continue your fiction I shall not fail to show readers of this forum how you take them for fools.
Posted by: Feli | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 02:38 AM
"Still I See No Change and I Asked MY SELF"
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
Dr Biya and all other opposition leaders have this Kingship ideology.Things will never change if we keep standing behind these Generation of Dictators.
SDF and other political parties have not only failed to impliement thier manifesto within the ranks of thier parties but also reducing it self to another Fan of the Biya Brand.
"Power to the people" turn to power to the Chiarman.Just like Rigour, intergrity and Moralization of the Biya regime which has turn to suffering ,on equal representation in government with respect to provincies and corruption as it´s chief moral values.
When We stop being a Fan to any of the Dictators above and start thinking about our Fatherland then we could get a better Cameroon.
I have read some great litereature in here and would not hesitate to congratulate all of your work even though some are very offensive but thats the role to success.
Be blessed
BoyS T
Posted by: Boyst | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 03:15 AM
Teribobs,
Where are you now?Do you think I am not proud of being in China?What aspect of human life can you compare with your country Cameroon to Shanghai.Come and see Shanghai for yourself you dog.You are where you are and open your dirty large mouth to criticise a city far more better than your small tartered village in Bamendankwe you goat,jackasing in an unknown country.I work here and I have a good job here legally.Nobody in China seeks asylum sorry.who do you take me for?
Tell us where you are and what you are doing now.
Akoson Son of Ako,LSE Shanghai
Posted by: Akoson | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 03:28 AM
SUNDAY SCHOOL
The congregation may pardon us for bringing only hymns since Sunday School began three weeks ago.
Na bicos say da roof for church, bad wind be don blow am move am.
So, until further notice, services will be just in songs. And for that matter, since the Right (Fasting) Reverend Akoson the Rock (Roki) of Shanghai is missing somewhere, deciding whether to station his missionary work in London or Shangai, we apologise that there won't be even a new hymn for Sunday School today.
We urge worshippers to go back to our hymn for last Sunday, especially as it still applies to our one-time king-kong who finds himself FADING AWAY day by day, incident by incident, error by error, but unlike the hymn says, is forgetting that even now that he's been dumped he may be remembered for his works. He seems to be doing everything to erase even those early hour good works of glory.
So here we go with our hymn:
Fading away like the stars of the morning
Losing their light in the glorious sun
Thus would we pass from this earth and its toiling
Only remembered by what we have sown
Only remembered
Only remembered
Only remmebered by what we have sown
Thus would we pass from this ear th and its toiling
Only remembered by what we have sown
May God bless us as we pay heed to this message. AMEN and see you next Sunday.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 05:11 AM
Hear Mukete;
"Ben Muna was coincidentally elected inside the SDF secretariate while Ni John Foolish Ndi was accepted as chairman inside a CPDM congress hall"
What an idiot, buffoon, moron this "mukuta bag" i mean Mukete is. So we should lick Ben Muna's ass because he was elected by coincidence in an SDF secretariat? What nonsense. I prefer Fru Ndi who was voted in a legal convention inside a CPDM congress hall in Bamenda than Ben Muna illegally accepted in a closed secretariat somewhere in Yaounde. Ben and Mukete have the same boss. Both are assholes. We all know that Ben Muna's name to Mukete reminds him of his pay cheque.
Posted by: Roki of Shanghai | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 05:33 AM
THE ATTEMPT TO HIGHJACK THE SDF FAILED,AND WILL REMAIN SO!
Here are the reasons:
The ailing ,blind Law Professor,who dares not talk out now, because he is afraid we will precipitate him to his grave,by reminding him of what was done to Jua on whom he counted for his political salvation,and the success of the convention held in Bamenda,will continue to lick his wounds for a long time because he was outsmarted in everything he concocted,as we are going to see in greater detail below:
1. 2002.....The slippery Ngwasiri starts crafting the doom of the SDF,by secretly signing a "Peace pact" with the Governor of the Northwest,something he alone knew the contours.This to no one`s surprise was high
treason,so he was tried and sanctioned by NEC.He was asked to resign and pay a sum of
one million.
2. On May 12,2003 Ngwasiri sent a Letter of Resignation to Fru Ndi.He wrote:
"Excellence,following NEC`s injonction during its April o5th 2003 session and brought to my notice during that of May 10th 2003,calling on me to resign from my present position as President of the National Advisory Council,I here transmit my resignation to you which effectively goes into effect from the date of signature.I here attach the Convocation Letter for the next Advisory Coumcil meeting billed for May 31,2003 pending signature,for under the present circumstances,you are the only one who has the authority to summon a meeting of the Advisory body"
Fellow readers,when you read such a letter,these are the points that you first stumble on:
a. Ngwasiri addressing Fru Ndi as Excellence
tells us that you can only address a person like this ,when you have unfliching support and respect for his authority.
b. That he actually resigns.
c. That he passes the baton of command to the only person who can fill the vacuum-the National President,his constitutional successor.
What readers will be itching to know is whether he paid the fine of one million.Of course he refused to pay! Lets take a moment and look at the hypocrisy here! He tables his resignation ,but refuses to pay the fine,yet he pretends to draw his inspiration ,force,legality from a Post he did no longer occupy.
3. February 25th 2005,an extra-ordinary meeting of NEC held in Douala and which Ngwasiri tried to disrupt with hired thugs from Yaounde,confirmed his auto-exclusion from the party.
3. On March 12,2006, the NEC meeting in Bamenda desolidarised from Ngwasiri`s acts of using the names of its members for political gains.
4. May 26-28 2006, the SDf Convention held as planned in Bamenda and 10 of the 13 NEC members whose names Ngwasiri had been using to distort public opinion,were in attendance.This was a terrible blow to somebody who had all along pretended to be talking for them.
5. May 2006,Ngwasiri imaginarily addresses thugs from the centre province from his sick bed ,during a cometogether of his bloodthirsty thugs. This was signalling the end of a man who is walking down the last mile of his life in general,because we all know he has never got a political life.
6. Cavaye Djibril,pitifully carved out a seat for him far from the other Parliamentary groups.In Parliament he is made to be a loner,whose imaginary Parliamentary Group leader Jua,distanced himself from him.
My second thrust about the attempt to highjack the SDF has to do with the failed attempt by a sensational Press ,and sponsored crumbs eaters to take over the SDf,and run down its chairman.When Muna weighed his chances against Fru Ndi ,and discovered he had to do with a poilitical joggernaut,he employed the services of Le Messager and The Social Chronicle to go on a Fru Ndi smearing campaign,but at the end of the day,all roads led to Bamenda in May for the convention.They later jumped on the death of Djiboule which they brought about,but even the forceful sending of SDF militants to Kondengui ,while protecting thugs from the centre Province will not hand over the SDF to them.Here in the Post,after unsuccessfully fighting to unsit Fru Ndi at the top of the SDf,some pretend today to specialise in Fru Ndi bashing, which did not pay off in the Past.Most of them are scared to death,thinking about the advent of the SDf taking over power in Cameroon,and bringing about the idea of a National Conference.Most os their families have been involved in some of the worst atrocities,like keeping standing armies ,you may want to call them thugs,assassinating political opponents.Their names are all telling and Cameroonians see how they do everything to shoutdown others,thinking they want to suffocate the truth.Others have been fooled to sing praises of inconsequential politicians.But they lack the tack,and the intellectual ability to do so.They resort to using the language of market women at Mokolo to taint facts.Some are so confused that they just want anything that will bring down Cameroon,so they use regional and factional sensibilities to weep up sentiments:" I think enough is enough now.We of the leftwing canno longer associate with this, 'graffi Group'...BTW ,
it is they who come to the Southwest for survival.Let Fon,Klemenceau,Watesih, Nyangkwe,Kgnanjo and their'behind the scene' accomplices go and die.KAM NO GOs".
Yeah,if every Cameroonian were to be asked to leave their place of residence , and go back to their hometowns,this will serve some psychopaths,as it has always served their parents when they come out hunting those they consider intruders," If you disagree,why do you refuse to leave Kumba,even when they ask you.Because you are all like Fru Ndi".Hmm,when Kumba will eventually have a tarred road,maybe only Jesus christ will be invited to live there,
because his uprightness will not incur the wrath of the numerous butchers we have there.
When you want to hang a dog ,call it a name," I support you,that he is leader of a Graffi party,so must not be the nation`s man of the year.It is sad ,but the truth is that the SDf is now a Graffi party-Bamenda people!!! Hahahahaha!" . Graffi party,Bamenda people? So what is the business of non Bamenda people,spending sleepless nights wailing about this party?
Why always refer to the Graffi party as our dear SDF,and accusing FRu Ndi of spoiling it? Why not create a non Graffi party and show your dexterity to write facts about it?
So many questions,isn`t it.But the only question whose answer is very evident is,
are these the people who want to pass for models ?
Posted by: Watesih | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 05:52 AM
Feli, your maturity and the quality of your write-ups is undoubtably something to talk about. All the facts and allegations you raised are backed with clear and explicite explanation together with proofs. That is the best way to educate and convince people. I have read alot of stuff about Ben Muna on this forum and thought them to be mere propaganda not until today when i visited the links you made available to butress your allegations. Some of us are just spectators on this forum and we are following the day to day discussion keenly. We need hard evidence inorder to discredit our political leaders. Unfortunately since i started reading about all the allegations made against Fru Ndi by Mukete, BenB,Vali,Terribobs etc, none has provided facts/proofs/evidence to defend their write-ups. In my humble opinion, i think most of their write-ups are based on hearsay, assumptions,cut and paste and last but not the least intimidation from their sponsors.
Posted by: Big Joe | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 06:45 AM
I say greetings to everyone here especially to the biased minds, I send you my warm and sincere greetings. Let them (those who are biased) know that I Klemenceau, love them all but hates the lies and hatred they preach here. I leave you all with the peace and love of God almighty.
Shalom
Klemenceau
Posted by: Klemenceau | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 09:02 AM
I say greetings to everyone here especially to the biased minds, I send you my warm and sincere greetings. Let them (those who are biased) know that I Klemenceau, love them all but hates the lies and hatred they preach here. I leave you all with the peace and love of God almighty.
Shalom
Klemenceau
Posted by: Klemenceau | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 09:04 AM
Great People discuss Ideas and mean people discuss names. This heated defamatory debates about Fru Ndi and Ben Muna or Ngwashiri without any ideas on how we can salvage our beloved country just exposes how mean we are and shallow minded we can be.
"Time is money" and it appears Cameroonians have too much time to waste and energy to expend in order to point out how negative something or an individual is.How can we therefore not be poor and consequently our beloved country labelled a " Highly Indebted Poor Country"-A label no body can be proud of in reference to his country. I am sure like others, most Cameroonians and any one using this forum will be happpy to read ideas rather than names in this forum
Posted by: Ngwese | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 09:07 AM
OUTCOME OF AXIS CRISIS MEETING: The Names Re-emerge!
We thought only "Madkete/Mukuta Bag" (and who else?) writes novels here. Now they realise they have so much to say in one go. Desperation is evident. E don bad.
They wasted the truce we gave them to hold a crisis meeting to prepare their last-fight. After coordinating through the email addresses they exchanged while contributing to their "convention memo", Watesih was charged to put his signature to the lamentations of Ni John's Apostle FeliAtanghaGeorge. Do you need a careful reading to tell that? Poor Watesih.
Having failed to give Muna a "killer punch" FeliAtangha has now turned to Ngwasiri, saying the same old refrains readers saw here but still were not convinced. They used their guerrilla press (The Heron in print and Error Nyangkwe online) to discredit Ngwasiri, but that did not stand in the way of his well attended convention with delegates from all nooks and crannies of the country. Independent news reports said so.
After the crisis meeting of the Axis, they were each urged to use their discredited forum names which they had abandoned out of shame, to show they haven't escaped. This is how to know: suddenly "Roki of Shangai" revived Akoson, trying to use both to fool only himslef; Watesih bounces out of hybernation after using a new disguise. He is backed by Kemenceau and using their disguise name, they pass a motion of support to their senior Apostle who, now fatigued, hides behind them to do the Ngwasiri smear campaign.
My Axis friends, if you need more time to come out with something meaning, not this stale soup that you served here, we can add more truce time. How much more do you need?
Or maybe you should heed the advise of your technical advisor Mbu.B who warned wona to do more useful things for your poor villagers back home and desist from weeping here day in day out for COMMERCIAL ACTIVISTS who have since sold out your destiny.
Mbu.B fears that your cry-die scenes here take up so much of your time that you may lose your kok-kok-kok jobs in remote corners in Europe and China.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 09:54 AM
BenB
“Massa” defend all the evidences given by Feli or you can call him Atangha, Watesih or any name even Klemenceau. Tell this forum if all written as proves of your master's thievery, cunning and lies is true or false. When we ask of proofs, we mean something like what Feli gave. At least the whole world can read and confirm. We should stop using words to entice those who have decided to be blind or who can't read between the lines. You should stop deceiving yourself by jumping to announce victory when the “match” is not over.
Shalom
Klemenceau
Posted by: Klemenceau | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 10:46 AM
Nice Ben Muna was sacked for incomepetence. He recently read a very biased article of his in french where he argued that southern cameroonians have no legitimate course. I understand he is working with the colonial regime in yaounde masquerading as someone who want to liberate the colonialist from economic turmoil as an anglohone. shame on him
Posted by: Rexon | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 10:50 AM
Klem, as far as I'm concerned (I, a committed social democrat and natural advocate of justice and equal opportnuties) victory will only come when the damage done by COMMERCIAL ACTIVISTS would have been repaired. And from what I know of Ben Muna and others involved in this struggle, I believe that's their mindset.
If for you and your fellow Axis gangsters you still have a battle because you're holding on destructively to a piece of the precious bleeding child, I understand why and can only say, good luck.
I haven't seen any evidence against anyone I sympathise with (did you say my master?). I won't have taken upon myself to seek equity and justuce for anyone whose moral credentials I doubted in anyway. But if you're referring to Ben Muna, just hide your head in shame because I've demonstrated that the Axis went to the wrong address to find incriminating stuff against Muna.
I even wonder why you would take the trouble to go that far when you have enough of Muna's career record in Cameroon to source from. Just take this: Muna has been all-powerful Bar Council chairman, at a time his father was the number two personality in this country.
Anyone enjoying some form of "immunity" thanks to those double privileged positions - most of you, most of us - would have done the most outrageous crimes. After all, we would say to ourselves, we are covered. The world is ours. Did Ben Muna do any such things? Check his impeccable record as Bar Council chairman who voluntarily ceded a chance to run for a third term in office.
Then after that, ask the drum major of COMMERCIAL ACTIVISTS Barrister BAD Ndam, he will tell you how dirty some of the subsequent Bar Council Chairmen have been: at least a few of them have been wrapped in scandalous legal matters.
Monthé who succeeded Ben Muna was convicted for financial thievery. You know other more recents cases that I won't cite here. And Ben Muna never mentions how charitably he groomed younger lawyers like BAD Ndam who later went else where and picked up bad habits.
Meet FeliAtangha George privately, he'll tell you the record of BAD Ndam's chambers. Or check with any of BAD Ndam's pupil lawyers and compare that with the treatment he received from the Muna Chambers. His COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES are not limited to politics.
Just forget you about what you call "evidences" against Muna. You may earn more sympathy from hate-minded readers here saying something else about Muna, not his moral and ethical record. He stands tall.
You hear, Pa Klem, leave am you so, ya?
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 12:56 PM
I am not going to be pulled into sterile polemics. It has been the style of others to say A or B is a commercial activist or that C or D is a feyman. I don't make statements I can't back. It's my principle!
Ni Ben has been associated to fraud, dishonesty and incompetence. I have talked to Björn Willum on phone. If he tells you the state Ben Muna left the Arusha office in, you would be very sorry for Cameroon's reputation. That is why such a man will not rule my party or my country even if his father was the president of all of Africa.
Posted by: Feli | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 02:20 PM
I think it is even too polite to say that Ben Muna was sacked from his job in Kigali for just lack of competence.He was found guilty of fraud in an attempt to cover Dr.Ferdinand Nahimana,a key player in the events that culminated to the Genocide.
Dr.Ferdinand Nahimana was the co-founder and director of radio RTLM,the media behind the Genocide.RTLM broadcast hate propanganda for years before the Genocide.Rwanda had no TV station. Consequently, the privately owned RTLM played a central role for the extremists, who used it both to spread misinformation about the Tutsis as well as to direct the militia, when they had to exterminate the "cockroaches".(Mukete,take note for your propanganda because there will be a time you will be called up to testify)
The Tribunal was set up to prosecute those who were essentially responsible for the Genocide,including Dr.Ferdinand Nahimana for his role behind the media.
CORRUPTION CHARGE AGAINST BEN MUNA THAT LED TO HIS DISMISSAL
Muna was accussed of playing an essential role in trying to protect the multimillionee,Dr.Ferdinand Nahimana. He was accussed of having had secret meetings with Dr.Ferdinand Nahimana.It was also found that the case against Dr.Ferdinand Nahimana was dying and that he had never appeared for interrogation by the prosecution that was at that time directly answerable to Muna.Below is a quotation regarding how Nahimana case was handled
"According to a source at the Tribunal, who wishes to remain anonymous, the case against Nahimana and others who had been responsible for the media started to slow down in the summer of 1997, when it was decided - despite numerous warnings - that the investigation should be put on the backburner. This decision was not revoked until 15 months later"
Ben B. may consider this taint of corruption not damaging since it was committed far away from home. O.K,now let come back home.
Ben Muna´s long term intentions and dirty relationship with the CPDM,the party which we will never forgive for the cause of misery in Cameroon,can easily be discerned from his activities during the post 1992 elections state of emergency in the NW.
Ben B,how can you explain the following to defend Ben Muna as some one that even a fool can be convinced to trust?
1.While Fru Ndi was under house arrest and other immediate subordinates of Fru Ndi were in detention,why do you think Muna was not equally arrested, but was instead acting as a mediator between the SDF and the CPDM?
2.When two persons are involved in a fight,by law the two must be detained for a court of law to decide who is at a fault;how can you explain the fact that the CPDM has already taken side with Muna in the incident that led to the death of Diboule?
Do you need to hear only from a political scientist that Muna is working in close collaboration with the CPDM to finish Cameroonians for his selfinterest? Ben Muna has shown on many occassions that he is cunny,egocentric and does not have the interest of Cameroonians at heart.His sole interest is political aggrandizement which he wants it the cheap way.
Posted by: Fon | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 04:42 PM
Sincerely I find this debate about Ben Muna very boring because it is now clear to everyone that he has a mission to destroy the only viable opposition party in Cameroon. Go to the food market beside the former Bamenda fish pond and call Ben Muna's name and you will be booed into confusion. Muna knows this that is why he can't dare to Bamenda, Bafoussam or any of SDF's fiefs eventhough he claims to be the chairman. ''He is a fraud, incompetent and corrupt'' Björn Willum.
Where is Mukete for Christ sake? I am still waiting for his tonne of evidence. It is too early for the LIAR, HYPOCRITE and CPDM AGENT to abandon the forum. Mr. Mukete, I hope you did not fall asleep in church. I am waiting.
Posted by: Feli | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 05:46 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Fon Lawless want tok law.
Look, FeliAtanghaGeorge disagrees with you. After reading your "defence" of COMMERCIAL ACTIVISTS or is it your offence of Muna, he felt disappointed and cried out, very loud: "Sincerely I find this debate about Ben Muna very boring..."
You know why? He felt he had said SOMETHING then when you added your own he felt you had watered down his with loose, weak, lame, deja vu, deja entendu talk.
Di ting vex he, say ha di pikin dem di make da pipo dem fit cam finish man here with kosh. So he came back to express frustration. Now it's boring. Weti wona don see?
And for a reminder, Mr Fon Lawless trying to tok law, go to BAD Ndam Chambers and ask what House Arrest means. Ni John was in his house. He was under house arrest. Muna wasn't under house arrest. If anyone else was confined to his house, they were people whose credentials were not well known. The oppressive forces of Biya held them in confinement just in case. Political vampires are always cowards. They fear even their shadow.
In a non-political situation, I am sure (I am not a learned lawyer like BAD Ndam) such people would be set free but asked to register with the police and required to report to the charge office everyday, to ensure they won't escape while investigations were underway.
Muna had well known credentials. He has a well known address in Bamenda, Mbengwi and Yaounde. For that matter he was Bar Council chairman. There was no fear he would escape. And by the way, Muna has made no secret about the fact that he was advising Ni John about renouncing claims to his stolen victory and face the future. Or else, the SDF should outright pursue a revolution which to him meant purchasing arms and beginning an insurgency.
Look eeh, my friend, Muna na man for hoo-ha? Back, back tok no dey for Ni Ben. He has nothing to hide. Na wona di tok one ting today, turn tok anoda one tomorrow.
Try again, one more time. Or if wona want anoda truce, ask for it. Wona really need to dig more and more. Ashia.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 07:51 PM
Klemenceau and Watesih silenced, they sent Fon. Fon now bruised, who will come forth? Maybe the Rock of Shanghai.
As for FeliAtanghaGeorge, he doesn't want him this nonsense on this forum anymore because the thing is BORING. Hahahahahahahahahaha.
Who next? Wona call back Samleyin who had given up this nonsense to mind his business at Commercial Avenue. Clever boy. Make man no cam follow Ni John go die hungry, eh Samleyin?
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 08:09 PM
BenB
I told you before and I repeat I don't spend sleepless nights on the internet. I write here when I have the time to spare. Hope you didn't expect me to keep vigil here as you and you gang members do. Some react to write ups at 4am Cameroon time. They claim to be in Cameroon and find being up at 4am to react to write ups normal. If you and your gang members can't sleep because you spend time cooking stories against the SDF and Fru Ndi, know that those who are objective sleep peacefully.
BenB in your attempt to defend your master Ben Muna, you instead ridiculed yourself and him. How on earth will you say…?
".......And by the way, Muna has made no secret about the fact that he was advising Ni John about renouncing claims to his stolen victory and face the future."
Are you saying that the SDF's victory wasn't stolen? By saying Fru Ndi should renounce claims of his stolen victory, was Ben Muna by implication not saying that no victory was stolen? If Ben Muna wasn't playing a double role, why did he ask the SDF to sell its rights to the CPDM? BenB, do you know you have erroneously confirmed to the fact that Ben Muna wanted to sell the SDF to the CPDM in the 90s? Man, think well before you defend something. Ben Muna who was supposed to be fighting for change and for the SDF was the first to say the SDF should renounce claims to its stolen victory. What double standard from the power hungry and corrupted Ben Muna.
BenB you have tried to no avail to tell us that Ben Muna did nothing wrong while in Arusha Tanzania. This issue is of international importance and in no way could Ben Muna remain silence after Monte and others accused him. If it was later realized that Monte just wanted to discredit Ben Muna, he (Ben Muna) would have written a disclaimer or asked the court to tell the world that the accusations against him were false. Would you please give me the website that carries stories relating to the fact that Ben Muna was falsely accused?
One of your gang members said it was normal for Ben Muna to steal money abroad and bring to Cameroon because it is African money that the west stole; hahahaha, what naive and narrow reasoning from those who claim to know much.
Shalom
Klemenceau
Posted by: Klemenceau | Sunday, 23 July 2006 at 11:30 PM
Each time some people try to defend Muna they instead pour petrol on fire. Do not take us for fools. Do you want to tell me the others who were arrested during the state of emergency had no credentials or permanent address? Ret'd Justice Nyo'o Wakai sat at the supreme court of Cameroon for more than 2 decades, is that no credentials? Barrister Sama Francis was an executive member of that same bar bureau Muna led. Dr. Victorin Hameni Bieuleu had/has business premises in Bafang and Yaounde. Lawyers Ophelia Sendze and Simon Abongwa all had very successful chambers in Bamenda and both had been practising for at least 10 years each. Not a single one of them was an ex-convict. So of all of these people, only Ben Muna had credentials and a permanent address? Very poor argument. The truth is Biya needed Muna badly. And because of Ben Muna's corrupt and dishonest mind-set, he deceived the presidency that he could convince Ni John Fru Ndi to accept (electoral) fraud and forgery so that those at BMM could be tried for treason. But anyone who knows Ni John Fru Ndi would be quick to assert that the man would never accept fraud. That is where Ben Muna miscalculated. I travelled from Ntarinkon with Ni Ben and his driver Abega after one of his 12 O'clock visits to BMM station. During the trip, he kept on cursing Ni John Fru Ndi for not abiding to Biya's will!!! Yes, that is what it was all about: Let Biya's will be done. This to those suffering under the fangs of the state of emergency was first-order betrayal.
Posted by: Feli | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 03:09 AM
Ben B.,
All your write-ups rely on the gullibility of readers.You must be under estimating readers here and I doubt how many of them can be credulous the way you think.As Feli has already mentioned,when you try to defend what is indefensible,you do more harm than good.
After reading my contribution,and in desparation since you have nothing to put up as a challenge,the only thing you could think of is to twist what Feli wrote in your desparate attempt to antagonize us.If it was reading comprehension and you were asked to state the reason why Feli termed the debate about Muna´s aberrant behaviour boring,what will you say considering that his statement was closely followed by the word "because"? Will your answer be based on what he wrote or your judgement of his mind? May be since you write in pidgin,you find it difficult understand what is written in simple English.
I now see the reason why you have always dodged debates in the past.The few you have attempted have exposed your lack of acumen in debates and of the issue at stake.It will be better you shut up your mouth for ever;it is often said, it is better to let people doubt your emptiness than making them to have nothing to doubt about naivety.
Posted by: Fon | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 04:04 AM
Readers can now make a distinction between fiction and facts in this forum. When we say some people frame up stories, they called us blind supporters of Fru Ndi. They always promised to expose Fru Ndi. They even childishly went as far as saying "if some Fru Ndi blind supporters make me angry, I will expose what I don't want to". They kept on promising to bring proofs of how Fru Ndi did this or that all in their desperate attempt to discredit Fru Ndi. When they have no more stories cooked against Fru Ndi, they resolve to calling him names; 'Ntarikon cat, illiterate, bookseller, commercial.......'etc.
We are waiting for what they will bring up next now that readers in this forum can make the difference between fictions, lies and true stories.
Shalom
Klemenceau
Posted by: Klemenceau | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 04:44 AM
Just listen to yourself, FeliAtanghaGeorge. Were you in detention, YOU? And since you were not and were instead driving around with Ben Muna to BMM, maybe you were his "accomplice" in arranging with Biya to destroy the SDF?
Maybe you want to tell readers why Muna bothered himself visiting people in BMM and using his intimidating eyes and imposing personality to cow soldiers and gendarmes at Ni John's compound where many of you cowards watched from a safe distance.
Or maybe you want to tell readers that your boss BAD Ndam was under house arrest too. Or did that imply he was he also out as far back then, negotiating deals with Biya?
I wonder whom you think you're informing that Muna was cursing Ni John. The honest man says so himself loud and clear (hoo-ha).
He disagreed with Ni John's analysis of the situation after the stolen victory and thought there shouldn't be double talk.
Either we faced the reality of the stolen victory, put it behind us and faced the future from that position of internationally recognised moral strength or outright rejected any compromise and carried out a revolution by going all out to acquire arms to fight, NOT BY DECEIVING IGNORANT BOYS TO PICK UP LIVE GRENADES IN THE NAME OF A RESISATANCE.
Those boys have now been abandoned to themselves while Ni John's own kids and some of the Axis noise-makers are abroad enjoying asylum they never deserved because they never fought and were never in danger.
Maybe you want to tell readers what became of the insistence on stolen victory. The simple truth is blindness to political reality is just as bad as BLINDNESS.
You see, FeliAtanghaGeorge, you're just suffering from political naivity and it is now obvious that the only political reality your BAD Ndam knows is chopping his share of the stolen wealth of barons of the Biya regime.
The unfortunate thing about it is that he traded the soul of the great party and everything will be done to rehabilitate it.
That's the battle we are here for and God willing, the only way you can stand in the way of quick victory is by holding on to a bleeding piece of the precious child for a while.
And the next time you phone your Danish friend Björn Willum ask him why Carla Del Ponte remained tongue tight when in front of Muna and why she abandoned her hired Danish "journalist" in Arusha after flying him in on a smear campaign mission. Then you'll understand.
Or maybe you want to have Björn Willum interviewed in your scandal sheet The Heron, so he can spill more beans about Muna. Goodluck then. And waiting for your next "powerful" outing. Or will it be from Knganjo? Aha, where is that one now? Surrendered or on psychological leave? Missing you guys on here.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 05:27 AM
Thank you for agreeing that Ben Muna was out to destroy the SDF.You seem to tamper with issues you are not aware of. Muna was the only one authorised by the presidency of the Republic to visit Ni John Fru Ndi or any of the detainees. He did not need to intimidate anyone. Moreso, he needed no credentials apart from an in-born egoist desire. The mineral water we took to the detainees was not paid out of Muna's pocket. The things were collected from Ntarikon and we transported them in Muna's Monterro jeep otherwise the poor detainees couldn't have had any access to such amenities. So, because of his tight relationship with Etoudi,Ben Muna was a kind of ''the way the truth and the light, no body comes into BMM or Ni John's house except through me''.
You can shout,cry and yell, call me whatever but I will NEVER desist from saying the truth. Ben Acho MUNA is corrupt,incompetent and dishonest (www.willum.com).And from the above, he has been Biya's special agent ever since SDF's inception.
Posted by: Feli | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 07:05 AM
REVISITING THE INTERVIEW THAT NEVER WAS!
The chain of the unusual things happening in Cameroon continues to turn.More than a week ago,an inconsequential political witchhunter strolled into the offices of Le Messager Newspaper in Douala.When asked what he was up to,he said he was just out on one of his courtesy calls` spree that has become his trade mark these days.
This interview was served readers here.But what was the form? Of course one of the diffident hollowmen ,and specialist in uplifting material that will never be of his making in newsorgans,was asked to inundate this forum with chunks of the said interview.Instead of allowing Cameroonians the pleasure to read and digest what an apprenti-sorcier was happing about in Newspaper columns,they embraced censorship,and selectively picked some distorted facts and tried to force them down readers` throats.What is more appalling is that in 2006,BenFBteribobs does not know what is meant by 'thought of the week'.He picks out the parts of an interview that are pleasing to his ears ,lines them up and tells people that this is the thought of the week.If he had not been writing in pidgin here,then readers would have been expecting too much from this type!Anyway,first things first!
When a people ,and the international community already have a negative impression about somebody,it is during his sought-after first outing like this one that he can overturn the tables and give a rosy picture of his personality.But this will never be the case with our man Muna!
His opening monologue sees him putting into use what he has repeatedly been accused of;feymania and corruption of innocence.He opines that while Cameroon has to be rehauled,first and foremost,the Le Messager Newspaper offices need to be completely refurbished ,in order for them to
work in more humane conditions.Who is this man that has known Le Messager for 16 years,
and it is only now that he wants to use it as a weapon of intoxication, that he comes to terms with their plight?By and by he did not end his interview talking about offices!
He was even going to spill the beans further.According to him Cameroon can`t be built through shortcuts.But one wonders his apparent lack of coolheadedness.In 1996 when he discovered that the time was not ripe for him to forment trouble,he resigned,
abandoned his flock ,and went after self
aggrandisement in Rwanda.When he returned,he wanted to be everything at the same time;chairman and President of the Republic.Today ,we do not only see a man who takes shortcuts with his international job in Rwanda,but one who takes shortcuts with the Laws of the nation.He has no remorse when his bullheadedness brings about the death of a Cameroonian.He even wants to take the speed of light just to be called Chairman.As PETIT PAYS would say,"Ils m`imitent,ils me ressemblent",Muna wants to conceal his weaknesses under Fru Ndi`s shadow.He uses the name SDf,its logo
to pass for the chairman of the SDf.This is in stark contrast to what he says in the interview,that,"What matters is to know what Fru Ndi is going to do with his on faction of the SDf and what Ngwasiri and i are going to do with ours".Cameroonians would have loved to see him christian his movement as SDF Muna/Ngwasiri,as we have with the UPC,instead of taking refuge under the name SDF.This assertion of his also answers some bagpipes who wanted to force the idea on Cameroonians that Muna was not receiving any blessings from Ngwasiri,but acting alone.
Political incorrectness is always the reward for restless souls like Muna.Just as Biya will make out of the way political slogans as,"Quand Yaounde respit,le Cameroun vit",Muna will normally hold the view that ,"The SDF was not created to accede to power".One begins to wonder what the hell he was out for in the early 1990s ,when he criss-crossed the country as Campaign Manager preparing for the 1992 Presidential elections.In 1992 when he and Fru Ndi stood at the Esplanade of the Amadou
Ahidjo stadium and pointed at the Unity Palace saying,"Tomorrow we are going to send Biya out of that Palace,not through arms ,but through your votes".Today if Muna holds that the SDf was first and foremost created to bring Democracy to Cameroon,does it imply that the elections he was campaigning for in 1992 were not a democratic process.
Muna tells us that there are five ways to accede to power,and the first one he names is through Revolution,and the second through electoral fraud.When quized about the fact that he asked Fru Ndi to buy arms to destabilise the country,Muna said he told Fru Ndi two things;that since they had accepted to change Cameroon through Democratic means the results of the stolen Victory proclaimed by the Supreme court should be accepted,but that," If you want to carry out a revolution,you should carry on,buy arms and you carry out the revolution".The 'You" here was only meant to refer to Fru Ndi buying arms and carrying out a revolution without Muna`s involvement.Dishonesty and cheap wits indeed!Muna tells us that when he left in 1996,a friend told him that it is better to fight from within,so ," I came back to fight".He came back to fight Fru Ndi,"who was not there when we used to meet at night in Yaounde".It is in this wise that Muna cannot even take a step further away from Fru Ndi,but tells Cameroonians that his actions revolves around two main points.First,"Fight Fru Ndi,so he should not continue to tell lies to Cameroonians ,counteract his ways and methods and bring in a new work ethic and thought process".What type of a leader is this,who can`t unveil the new things that he has in store for Cameroonians ,so he could pull them over ,but announces himself,
by promising to lurk himself in a fight with Fru Ndi?
Muna tells us that initially,the SDf paid much attention on the unity between men,but that today he wants to lay emphasis on the idea of a common goal.How can there be a common goal if people are not united.When people are closer,they can forge a common goal.He should rather tell Cameroonians that the disunity in the SDF comes about as a result of vaulting ambition from people like him,not because there`s no common goal.
Muna says Cameroonians had always hoped that despite the difficult times things were going to go for the better,that he has therefore come to make people relive this hope.He says this cannot be done through speeches,but only when people will discover that we their leaders have true values and honesty.This contradicts his idea that,"If we had talked to the people enough ,telling them what Democracy was,that they could vote and protect their vote,we would have been in power today".By the way,how are people going to relive this hope he wants to bring,when he starts off by pitting himself against Fru Ndi.
Readers should know that we are here to scrutinise those who want to pass for angels,and this is going to be done in different ramifications.This is the first gist about Muna`s first outing.More about the interview is going to be brought to the attention of Cameroonians.We cannot show the world that we are illiterates by cutting and pasting material that is not ours,but we should rather analyse what the fuss our leaders are making from our different perspectives.There`s more in store for you.
Posted by: Watesih | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 08:10 AM
Watesih,
I can see that you are back. welcome back. I could identify your write-ups from a distance. Guess you know why - bad language. hope you will stand the heat. You raised quite an interesting issue. Tell ur JFN to accept that all decisions after 2003 when his mandate expired. When he accepts then we will begin from there. You can continue your usual sing-song but that will not help the CDF. Even if we do not point out your errors you will a paper tiger. oh how i pity the commercial wing of the SDF.
Feli Atangha George, you are just being yourself. you have unveiled yourself. we do not need to belabour that point. Everybody knows who you are - the paper gathering boy.
Big Joe, how can you see the follies in Feli Atangha George's write-ups when you cannot spell your name?
Klemenceau, we accept your greetings and return a double portion. I see you a nice person but with bad ideas. Read BenB's statement about stolen victory well and you will understand. Only an impersonator can say Ni Ben stole from abroad to help Cameroon. I am surprised that you can believe such vilifications. Anyway any smear campaign against Ni Ben goes down well with you.
Hmm Fon,
stick to physics. Don't venture in this grammar stuff again. Guess you know what happens when you stir a bee-hive.
BenB, you one pass dem one million coz TRUTH be ur watchword.
Forumites, truth will always prevail. Lies can deceive for a while as it is deceiving the market people of food market as cited by one of those gangsters. They are gradually realizing themselves and pulling out of Biya's sub-section in their numbers. wona no waste wuna time CHAIRMAN DON FINISH.
Ngwese,
That was a good one. It is a pity some have just these blind defences to earn a living from. What else can Feli Atangha George do other than kiss BAD NDAM's ass for daily bread?
Posted by: Teribobs | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 08:26 AM
I said it does not bother me whether you say I am this or that person or that I work in this or that office. This shows how easy you can be misled into believing in something firmly without having a clue of what it is all about. Well, that will never stop me from writing the truth.
If you write of Muna gaining grounds, I challenge you to go even to the Mokolo market where Muna hired Beti boys to usurp SDF property. You shall bow your head in disgrace when you see the way people react to the name Ben Muna. There, they know Ni John Fru Ndi as the ONLY political leader who visited them and shared with their pains after the ferocious Mokolo Market fire disaster!
Moreover, after Biya's CPDM congress political black-out, Cameroonians know they have no where to turn to but to the SDF. Even SDF militants who had given up the struggle because it appeared too long for them are now the ones organising ward and district meetings. Biya clearly frowned at the fact that the CPDM was active only during elections in stark contrast to the SDF where militants are well-versed with the party's activities and political ideology. True SDF militants are thus on the watch-out not to let the cheat and adventurer Ben Muna into their constituency.
And finally, if you think you know the Munas better than I, then ask Ama Muna what she thinks of her own brother Ni Ben and then you will understand that Ben Muna's seek for personal aggrandizement is in-born. As I write, it is no secret that Ama and Ben are absolutely not in good terms because of quarrels over family property!. If this man can not manage his own family wealth and problems, then I wonder how he can boast of managing a grand-structure like the SDF. With this trait, you can understand why even foreign journalists describe Ben Muna as dishonest, incompetent and corrupt.
Posted by: Feli | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 09:37 AM
Teribobs
Only one thing will make you see bad ideas in me and it is the fact that I stand for the truth. If you are sincere, you will accept with me that people have taken upon themselves to blackmail others because of selfish reasons. Teribobs don’t worry the truth will never hide. Don’t be deceived by the stories people cook against Fru Ndi. They have their reasons which you will soon know if truly you don’t know at moment.
I understand that impersonators have decided to bring confusion in this forum but I read carefully and I am able to distinguish who wrote what. People might write and when they discover that they made some stupid arguments in their write ups, they turn and say someone impersonated them. If you care go and read the write up again and you will agree with me that it was written by the venerated fiction writer in this forum.
Teribobs, when this SDF issue will be over, I would like to ask you if you still feel you were right to stand behind Ngwasiri and Ben Muna. For now, let's keep on the argument. The ball is rolling and sooner than soonest we will know who was who in the SDF.
I hope people will be sincere to stand and face the truth at the end?
Shalom
Klemenceau
Posted by: Klemenceau | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 10:38 AM
USING THE NAKEDNESS OF VERY OLD WOMEN (TAKUMBENGS) AS POLITICAL WEAPON: A CURSE ON THE NORTH WEST PROVINCE AND BAMENDA.
Cameroon has gone on record as one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and as one of the countries with the highest rate of prostitution and AIDS in the world. Cameroon is also respected as one of the powerhouses of soccer in the world. Politically, though, Cameroon is the only country in the world where the nakedness of very old women, known as Takumbengs has been used by the opposition to fight the government. This current research has proven, beyond any doubts whatsoever, that by exposing the nakedness of very old women to the public in Bamenda – something completely against African culture and against the tradition of the entire North West province – the leader of the perpetrators of this crime against humanity and against the feminine gender brought a CURSE on the entire North West province and Bamenda.
In almost all the continents of the world, children and the elderly have been used as political weapons during wars and political confrontations. But the present research discovered that it is only in Cameroon and specifically in Bamenda in the North West province that the nakedness of very old women has ever been used as a political weapon. This weapon was invented and used by Ni John Fru Ndi (Leader of Cameroon’s main opposition party, the Social Democratic Front – SDF) to bring pressure on the CPDM government of Cameroon. It is world record that it is only in Bamenda that this anti-feminine, disrespectful, and anti-cultural weapon has ever been used. We toured the whole world, meeting and discussing with political leaders and human rights and feminine organizations of ALL the continents of the world, but we found NO other place – we mean NO THER PLACE- on earth where this crime against women and humanity has ever been practiced. No researcher found it in any other place, and the probability that it will ever happen elsewhere is zero. It is unique to Bamenda and Ni John Fru Ndi!
Most of the victims of this Ni John Fru Ndi-initiated and sponsored crime, against old women and North West culture and tradition, were illiterate great grand-mother above 90 years of age, and who had attained menopause and could barely move. Before engaging themselves in such a CURSE, these ignorant mothers had been assembled and forced into believing that their nakedness was the only instrument left to make their son, Ni John Fru Ndi, become the president of Cameroon. They were therefore thought the different positions they were to take while NAKED, depending on the situations and circumstances. They could be lying down and carrying their two legs into the air, or standing up and lifting one leg into the air, or bending down and showing their back-side to the public or standing and opening their legs at 180 degree. Although a painful and demanding exercise for these helpless women, these ignorant mothers had no other alternatives than to perform what was apparently needed to make the first son of the North West become the president of Cameroon.
In Cameroon, whenever a mad woman is seen moving around naked, the first thing women do is to look for a piece of cloth to cover her nakedness. As if mad women also understand the danger involved in exposing their nakedness in public, ALL mad women in Cameroon make sure they cover their nakedness. Traditionally, in the North West province, if an old woman should show you her nakedness, especially in public, then it is treated as a very serious matter and a cleansing exercise must be performed to remove the resulting CURSE. In the North West province still, when a passer-by coincidentally sees an old woman taking a bath in the stream, the passer-by has to run away with his eyes closed as if a lion were chasing him. Again in the North West province, if an old woman threatens to expose her nakedness to you, you have to run away and beg the elderly to mediate. If you see the waste-slip of an old woman falling to the ground, you immediately have to turn to the opposite direction – with your eyes closed.
Ni John Fru Ndi and his gang of anti-tradition accomplices did not only force these old women into exposing their nakedness to Biya’s army of occupation and to the public, but they, too, were happy observers of this sacred nakedness in all the different positions. Most of these naked women were actually surrounding the residence of Ni John Fru Ndi as he was under “House protection” following the 1992 presidential elections. We gathered that while Ni John Fru Ndi was in the house eating and having shelter and medical attention, these poor ignorant women were left in the cold and heat outside, with no shelter, no medical attention and inadequate feeding. During the day, Ni John Fru Ndi was found hanging on the window opposite which some of these old naked mothers were exhibiting their nakedness. Consequently Ni John Fru Ndi, too, saw the sacred nakedness, although the dark glasses gave the women a different impression.
We gathered from concerned traditional rulers, Fons, Chindas and Quifons in the North West province that by forcing these old women to do what they did, the gods of the North West province are all angry, and that this action against the culture of the North West province has brought a CURSE on the entire province and especially on Bamenda. Unfortunately most of these keepers of culture and tradition of the North West province cannot, at least for now, come forward and make this sad fact public, because they are afraid that they would be linked to the CPDM government or that they would be termed CPDM sponsored agents. They ALL however maintained that unless the entire North West province and especially Bamenda undergoes a public traditional cleansing exercise then the entire region would have no rest. They are all of the conviction that until the gods are pleased to forget this unfortunate curse that Ni John Fru Ndi has brought on the land, then the North West province will see no good. The gods are still weeping; especially whenever one of these misused old women dies.
We are compiling the requests made by the gods of the land, as presented by the custodians of the land- the Fons, Chiefs, the Chindas, the Quifons, etc. We shall keep the public informed on what must be done to relieve the entire region from the curse that Ni John Fru Ndi and his gang of exploiters have brought on the land.
Stay tuned.
Mukete
Posted by: mukete | Wednesday, 26 July 2006 at 11:23 PM
USING THE NAKEDNESS OF VERY OLD WOMEN (TAKUMBENGS) AS POLITICAL WEAPON: A CURSE ON THE NORTH WEST PROVINCE AND BAMENDA.
Cameroon has gone on record as one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and as one of the countries with the highest rate of prostitution and AIDS in the world. Cameroon is also respected as one of the powerhouses of soccer in the world. Politically, though, Cameroon is the only country in the world where the nakedness of very old women, known as Takumbengs has been used by the opposition to fight the government. This current research has proven, beyond any doubts whatsoever, that by exposing the nakedness of very old women to the public in Bamenda – something completely against African culture and against the tradition of the entire North West province – the leader of the perpetrators of this crime against humanity and against the feminine gender brought a CURSE on the entire North West province and Bamenda.
In almost all the continents of the world, children and the elderly have been used as political weapons during wars and political confrontations. But the present research discovered that it is only in Cameroon and specifically in Bamenda in the North West province that the nakedness of very old women has ever been used as a political weapon. This weapon was invented and used by Ni John Fru Ndi (Leader of Cameroon’s main opposition party, the Social Democratic Front – SDF) to bring pressure on the CPDM government of Cameroon. It is world record that it is only in Bamenda that this anti-feminine, disrespectful, and anti-cultural weapon has ever been used. We toured the whole world, meeting and discussing with political leaders and human rights and feminine organizations of ALL the continents of the world, but we found NO other place – we mean NO THER PLACE- on earth where this crime against women and humanity has ever been practiced. No researcher found it in any other place, and the probability that it will ever happen elsewhere is zero. It is unique to Bamenda and Ni John Fru Ndi!
Most of the victims of this Ni John Fru Ndi-initiated and sponsored crime, against old women and North West culture and tradition, were illiterate great grand-mother above 90 years of age, and who had attained menopause and could barely move. Before engaging themselves in such a CURSE, these ignorant mothers had been assembled and forced into believing that their nakedness was the only instrument left to make their son, Ni John Fru Ndi, become the president of Cameroon. They were therefore thought the different positions they were to take while NAKED, depending on the situations and circumstances. They could be lying down and carrying their two legs into the air, or standing up and lifting one leg into the air, or bending down and showing their back-side to the public or standing and opening their legs at 180 degree. Although a painful and demanding exercise for these helpless women, these ignorant mothers had no other alternatives than to perform what was apparently needed to make the first son of the North West become the president of Cameroon.
In Cameroon, whenever a mad woman is seen moving around naked, the first thing women do is to look for a piece of cloth to cover her nakedness. As if mad women also understand the danger involved in exposing their nakedness in public, ALL mad women in Cameroon make sure they cover their nakedness. Traditionally, in the North West province, if an old woman should show you her nakedness, especially in public, then it is treated as a very serious matter and a cleansing exercise must be performed to remove the resulting CURSE. In the North West province still, when a passer-by coincidentally sees an old woman taking a bath in the stream, the passer-by has to run away with his eyes closed as if a lion were chasing him. Again in the North West province, if an old woman threatens to expose her nakedness to you, you have to run away and beg the elderly to mediate. If you see the waste-slip of an old woman falling to the ground, you immediately have to turn to the opposite direction – with your eyes closed.
Ni John Fru Ndi and his gang of anti-tradition accomplices did not only force these old women into exposing their nakedness to Biya’s army of occupation and to the public, but they, too, were happy observers of this sacred nakedness in all the different positions. Most of these naked women were actually surrounding the residence of Ni John Fru Ndi as he was under “House protection” following the 1992 presidential elections. We gathered that while Ni John Fru Ndi was in the house eating and having shelter and medical attention, these poor ignorant women were left in the cold and heat outside, with no shelter, no medical attention and inadequate feeding. During the day, Ni John Fru Ndi was found hanging on the window opposite which some of these old naked mothers were exhibiting their nakedness. Consequently Ni John Fru Ndi, too, saw the sacred nakedness, although the dark glasses gave the women a different impression.
We gathered from concerned traditional rulers, Fons, Chindas and Quifons in the North West province that by forcing these old women to do what they did, the gods of the North West province are all angry, and that this action against the culture of the North West province has brought a CURSE on the entire province and especially on Bamenda. Unfortunately most of these keepers of culture and tradition of the North West province cannot, at least for now, come forward and make this sad fact public, because they are afraid that they would be linked to the CPDM government or that they would be termed CPDM sponsored agents. They ALL however maintained that unless the entire North West province and especially Bamenda undergoes a public traditional cleansing exercise then the entire region would have no rest. They are all of the conviction that until the gods are pleased to forget this unfortunate curse that Ni John Fru Ndi has brought on the land, then the North West province will see no good. The gods are still weeping; especially whenever one of these misused old women dies.
We are compiling the requests made by the gods of the land, as presented by the custodians of the land- the Fons, Chiefs, the Chindas, the Quifons, etc. We shall keep the public informed on what must be done to relieve the entire region from the curse that Ni John Fru Ndi and his gang of exploiters have brought on the land.
Stay tuned.
Mukete
Posted by: mukete | Thursday, 27 July 2006 at 05:55 AM
Mukete,
Whether you shout and climb mount Fako, that will not deter me. The statement ''...WE ARE TALKING OF ILLITERATE, WEAK, IGNORANT AND VERY OLD WOMEN (above 90 years of age) WHO WERE USED AND DECEIVED INTO EXPOSING THEIR NAKEDNESS SO AS TO MAKE SPECIFIC INVIDUALS (NOT THE OLD WOMEN THEMSELVES) TO GAIN POLITICAL FAME'' is false in content.
It is false because no one forced or asked anybody to demonstrate in nudity.The demonstrators came on their own, they had their own leaders within them. They had their own pace. So nobody was used or deceived. I said if your claim was to hold, then the clergy, jujus would be correct to assert same.
When the Coordination of political parties decided in june 1991 on the Yaounde II plan of action, its resolution read as follows
''...Calls on the population and Cameroonians of goodwill...'' This request was answered by all and sundry, including the intelligent and strong as well as the weak and illiterate. Some were not asked to come in garments because they went to school while others who were illiterate were asked to come naked. That is why I said your thinking is shallow. And with this shallow thinking, readers of this thread can easily make out who is making a fool of his or herself here.
When I read this statement 'If you continue to distort facts, then I will be forced to bring in the graphical illustrations that I am keeping on this shameful issues. I hope when that comes you wouldn't accuse me of exposing the "private life" of people. You may be minimizing the facts available!' I shouted Halleluya! Bring the facts. Don't be afraid of anyone. I know you are a LIAR and FABRICATOR but I did not know until today that you are a coward. Bring the facts ,I shall fight for your freedom of speech if any one attempts to stop you in any way.
Posted by: Feli | Thursday, 27 July 2006 at 06:28 AM
READERS,
Disregard the lengtht re-post that follows my comment. I did that just to show you guys and BenB in particular how stupid and ignorant he has been.
BenB/BenF aka Teribobbs,
When some of us don’t comment so often, it’s because we know the value of time and have other important issues to deal with that stand very high above politics ‘à la manière Camerounaise’. But there is something that you have said here over and over claiming that the post is censoring what ever. I don’t know what you think you are that the Post editors should devote time that should be spent doing important things into censoring comments from a riff raff like you. In the past I made a vow not to react to comments from the likes of you and Mukete because your comments are all fiction without any substance in it. But because of your stupidity, naivity and ignorance about certain things, you dared to accuse the Management of ThePost Newspaper of censoring you comments and caused me to comment one more time. If you think that by leveling such an accusation makes Mukete’s wranglings (of a mad man) correct, then think again.
Just to show you how stupid you are, I am posting all what you have accused ThePost Management of censoring below for you and all to see that your accusations are as baseless as your write-ups and those of you colleague in crime, Mukete. Don’t ask me how I got it for that’s the assignment I have given you to research on. It just might enlighten you a bit. NEVER SAY SOMETHING YOU CANNOT BACK WITH EVIDENCE. I will NEVER say something I can’t back with CONVINCING evidence.
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXVII)
“The Ngwasiri 'resignation' matter has been debated over and over again. People should stop inventing new procedures that don’t exist in administration. Yes, Mr Ngwasiri had submitted a resignation letter to Fru Ndi. In the evening, Fru Ndi asked him ‘who asked you to resign?’ He asked Ngwasiri to convene a NAC meeting that was already planned. Ngwasiri did that.
“You should understand that the outcome of a resignation depends on whether a boss accepts or refuses it. By the way, we have letters from Fru Ndi as chairman to Ngwasiri as recently as 2005 in which he addressed Ngwasiri as chairman of the advisory council.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:51 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXVI)
“I don’t have ambitions to be president. It isn’t an obsession for me. In any case, if people think I can do something, I’ll accept to serve my country. But truly, I’m not dying to be president of the republic. I’ve already made my name. I’ve left a track record in Africa. I don’t have to be president of the republic at all cost to be recognized as someone. I say this sincerely. And by the way, I can’t elect myself into office. It’s you, citizens, who have to decide.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:38 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXV)
“We behave as if Cameroon invented politics. Meanwhile it is science with clear indicators.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:29 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXIV)
“We won’t use the same methods as Fru Ndi. We won’t exclude anybody. [No 8.2]. Even those who pay allegiance to Fru Ndi have the right to do so. They have their opinion. They have the right to insist that Fru Ndi remains chairman of the SDF. We go to court because for us that is for the courts to clarify. If they realize that NEC was illegal, they’ll decide what to do. If they want to return to us, no problem. [They are welcome.]” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:24 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXIV)
“We didn’t say Fru Ndi couldn’t continue as chairman [before the conventions]. He could continue acting as chairman, but during those three, four years when NEC’s mandate expired, they took decisions with far-reaching consequences: dismissals, change of party rules, brought up new ideas that were foreign to the statutes of the party. We said no and asked them to return to order. [They didn’t heed to our call]. I’m convinced that our convention was legal and we are the legitimate group. The courts will pass judgment in line with that.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:14 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXIII)
“Cameroon wanted a messiah, a Moses to save the country. Sixteen years after, we’re not there. Ask yourself why... Africa is suffering at the hands of those Moses’s. God Himself chose the one in the Bible. Appointed or self-proclaimed Moses’s have never succeeded in Africa. I can cite many.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Friday, 21 July 2006 at 02:04 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXII)
“The way to fight corruption is to hit hard on the big guns and the rest of Cameroonians will sit up. We should have the courage to hit the corrupt big guns, put them prison, the rest of Cameroonians will sit up. All these committees for the fight against corruption are a waste of time. Since the creation of man, the only way to stop crime is through penal sanctions.
“We should begin with the white-collar thieves. You’ll see the others sitting up, resigning. One thing about Cameroonians is that they adapt quickly to a new order. The manner in which we have adapted to corruption is strange. At the start of the 1980s [before Biya came power] it wasn’t like this.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 02:52 PM
Thank you Fon. When a tree is falling. It takes the branches along with it.Won't be different for Ben Muna.
Posted by: Roki of Shanghai | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 02:28 PM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XXI)
“In 2002 the UN sent me to Equatorial Guinea on a good governance programme. Their president received me and asked me how I was going to organize it. I told him it won’t need more than one day to do so simply because good governance is all about honesty - honesty in everything, in managing people, in managing public property. If we can apply honesty in all domains, there will be good governance. It isn’t a theory hard for us to understand or search for in space. It’s a practical thing in our daily lives.
”Our society should be built on what Jesus said: ‘Love one another’. If I love my neighbour, I’ll give them equal facilities – education, health and all the rest.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 02:27 PM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XX)
“If we are delaying the burial of Diboule, it’s because the state counsel investigating the matter is refusing the autopsy report. He wants to have details to establish clearly the cause of Diboule’s death (gunshot, stabbing, or whatever). That’s necessary so they won’t say he was knocked down by a vehicle as they had already started saying.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 01:44 PM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XIX)
“We should understand that [neo]colonialism is all about economic interests... We need to know how far we can go in mounting pressure for change. If we don’t make a breakthrough, our children will continue the struggle. You might have read the French Revolution. It took 50 years for the first Parliament to be put in place. Who knows if in Cameroon it would also take 50 years or even 100?” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 01:24 PM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XVIII)
“I was with Fru Ndi in Bamenda when Sengat Kuo said we should form a government in Bamenda. I said to Fru Ndi, there are two things. Since we have accepted to change Cameroon democratically, let’s accept the Supreme Court results. But if you want us to carry out a revolution, then let’s go. Buy arms. And I told him there were no half measures about recognizing state institutions and rejecting them when they are against you.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 01:13 PM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XVII)
“It is in the statutes from the beginning. The SDF was created to bring democracy to Cameroon. But since we ignored that objective to merely chase power, we can see the result. They say power corrupts. It’s true. You need to be very strong to withstand the problems that quest for power can bring to an institution.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 01:02 PM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XVI)
“You know it very well that in 1996, I quit the SDF, but friends made me understand that the battle was best fought within. I’ve come to fight. MY SOUL IS LNKED TO THIS PARTY. When we were meeting at night in Yaounde, Fru Ndi wasn’t there.
"In crafting the statutes of our party, we understood the attitude of people who were power-hungry. That’s why we included checks and balances so that NAC couldn step into the shoes of NEC when the need arose. We know why we created this party.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 12:31 PM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XV)
“You would have noticed how ‘feymen’ operate. They win your confidence and then disappear with your money. That’s exactly how political ‘feymen’ operate. Our obligation now is to stop following our political ‘feymen’. We must build a new way of honesty and the people will recognize us and follow us.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 08:41 AM
Good words from Ben Muna. It seems that the SDF has at last found a leader to restore its pride. The SDF has hope, after all!
Posted by: Dr. A. A. Agbormbai | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 08:38 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XIV)
“John Fru Ndi was going to occupy the [Centre provincial] headquarters with 200 or 300 thugs. The Gendarmes would have barred us from entering the premises to hold our convention. Consequence: no convention. And John Fru Ndi would have gone boasting that we were incapable of holding a convention.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 08:33 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XIII)
“My job is to prepare younger people to take over leadership of the party four years from now. I don’t think that at age 70 I’ll still be aspiring to lead the party. It is my duty now to guide the youth around me so that by the next elective convention in 2010, they could take over leadership of the party. If at that time there is the need for me to stand as presidential candidate, it won’t be for me to decide. If at the time there is a more capable young man, good and fine. [...The SDF constitution prohibits the party chairman from standing as presidential candidate. We just have not been respecting that.]” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 08:23 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XII)
“He (Fru Ndi) controls state radio because he is in connivance with the CPDM. And since in Douala there is the radio of Severin Tchounkeu that speaks about him day in day out, I try to make a few media outings and each time a send out a strong message that everyone hears and comments on for a long time. Then they (Fru Ndi’s group) begin to grumble that I speak on the radio all the time. I control the grassroots and from time to time I remind them to watch where the truth is.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 08:05 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (XI)
“The CPDM has passed on political violence to John Fru Ndi. They have taken the place of the CPDM. After the violence in the Takoudjou/Souleymane Affair, Fru Ndi thought he had a certain immunity and could do whatever he wanted. He thought he’d always be protected. Many people equally thought so. That’s why many people think things won’t change, after all Fru Ndi is an arm of the CPDM.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 07:54 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (X)
“I think we politicians need to examine ourselves to understand why Cameroonians have lost faith in politics. It’s because we spend our time deceiving them… The other time I heard that professors were signing a document calling on Biya to remain in power. Finally, where are we? You know that people were very disappointed to see 250 professors signing for Biya to stay in power.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 07:34 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (IX)
“It is really sad that with all these riches in our country people suffer this way. Our people have lost faith. The Biya regime has, in 20 years, dampened the spirit of Cameroonians. People in the villages were always poor, but in the past, they hoped for a better tomorrow. Now they have lost the desire to live.
“I return to politics to contribute my quota in reviving their hopes. That hope can’t be given by mere sweet talk. It only comes when the people trust that we have high moral and ethical values. We need to be honest with the people. Truth is the best way of making friends.
“I believe now we are entering the second phase of our battle but it’s, of course, more difficult because the people no longer believe us, their leaders. We have deceived the people. We have big cars, mansions and within 20 years, the people have been reduced to nothing.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 07:17 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (VIII)
“Many can remember that during rallies in 90-91 I said the SDF wasn’t created to simply grab power. It was created first and foremost to institute a culture of democracy in Cameroon. To get to power, there are at least five ways that I can cite: revolution, fraudulent election, free and fair election, succession, and even coup d’etats. But to get to power through democratic means we must first create a democratic atmosphere.
"And if the SDF had held on to its original mission to educate the people, they would have known how to defend their votes. Sixteen years after, the people don’t even know how to defend their votes. That shows we failed in our mission.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 06:56 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (VII)
“I never said the SDF wasn’t created to win power. But it was created first and foremost to institute a democratic culture. That’s my point of view that I consider pragmatic and the outcomes have proven me right…
“If you want to grab power democratically, the terrain needs to first and foremost be democratic. Else, you’re wasting your time. To plant maize, you have to first clear the farm. If you’re power-hungry, you plant your maize among weeds and they won’t grow.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 06:43 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (VI)
“We need to rebuild a new way based on honesty, that will convince the people and THOSE other people will lose credibility. Today, we need solid values that the people want…People need to know that politics is a game for the interest of the people, not for individuals…
“Ten years ago, people said ‘Ben Muna does not know how to play politics’. IF IT'S POLITICS OF LIES TELLING, THAT'S TRUE. I don’t know that. I’m naïve to politics of lies telling…
“Observe me in the coming months, watch my deeds and political actions. Some said I was doing this in order to take a seat in the Biya government. If I wanted that, I’d have done so since 1993.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 05:55 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (V)
“You know that if anyone was to be killed with insults in this country, I would have been that person. When I heard people say I had received 400 million from the French government, I laughed. If I wanted to be minister, I would have entered the Biya government in 1993 but I refused.
“You know the Germans say: ‘Mit gegangen – Mit gefühlen – mit gehangen’, meaning: ‘You went with them, you were found with them, you’ve been hanged with them’.
"In life people should learn to choose where they want to be very carefully because in the end only those who don’t understand life would think they can join a band of thieves and succeed to convert all of them.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 05:12 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (IV)
“Let me remind you that I was the first to leave NEC, in 1993, and when Siga Asanga resigned after me, he created a party. I told him the solution to Cameroon’s problems is not to create political parties, but rather to educate the people because the people were not yet ready.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 04:57 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (III)
“I fight for two reasons. First, so that Fru Ndi doesn’t continue deceiving people, to counteract his methods. Second, I fight to bring in a new method of work, a new way of thinking and doing things.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 04:45 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (II)
"I believe we can make a new start based on moral values. Let’s first change our attitudes and the people will follow us. But if we continue to lie to the people, we will waste another 16 years in the wilderness." - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 04:24 AM
FOOD FOR THOUGHT (I)
“You of the civil society, like we politicians, must have noticed that we are living very hard times. Times have also been hard for me because, among many politicians, I was the least understood. But today, many have come to understand that Cameroon cannot be built through shortcuts. Cameroon cannot be built by people who want others to change but they themselves are not changing. Change must begin with us ourselves.” - Ben Muna to Le Messager, 18 July 2006
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 20 July 2006 at 04:08 AM
Posted by: JB Samba | Thursday, 27 July 2006 at 08:59 AM
BenB/BenF aka Terribobs
The "Col. Ngafor, Other SDF Militants in Kondengui" story is still very much alive in the archives. Follow the link below to the story.
SHAME ON YOU
http://www.postnewsline.com/2006/07/col_ngafor_othe.html
Posted by: JB Samba | Thursday, 27 July 2006 at 09:06 AM
BenB
I did my comments before realising that Fon had already gotten hold of the articles. Anyway it goes to prove that that he didn't get throught any connections as you guys of the CPDM do. It was throught a google search within Postnewsline as I did.
You are just the fool that you are.
Posted by: JB Samba | Thursday, 27 July 2006 at 09:12 AM
Wonderful revelations, reflection and thought food on past activities! In fact Ie thank the post very much for letting us know many things through this debate here. Cameroonians are now understanding things that they never knew before. We are having very vital information that make us think back into the past. Cameroon and Cameroonians will never be the same. Thanks to all contributors. Reader.
Posted by: reader | Thursday, 27 July 2006 at 11:48 AM
Reader, In fact this is a big eye-opener.
Posted by: Teribobs | Thursday, 27 July 2006 at 12:41 PM
Empty vessels always have something to hang on. The talk of the day now is not how Fru Ndi has destroyed the SDF but how he has brought curse to the North West province.
Teribobs and Reader, can you explain to me the revelations you are claiming here? Are they revelations about how Fru Ndi forced SDF militants to drink blood in Fundong or how he killed John Khortem, his late wife, Diboule etc? What has happened to the evidence the chief fiction writer here promised this forum in relation to the marriage between the CPDM Secretary General’s daughter and Fru Ndi's relative? What about the evidence promised to readers here to confirm the fact that Fru Ndi is dinning with the CPDM at night? What about the evidence to proof that Fru Ndi actually killed Makoge?
Why do you guys take readers for fools? Do you think creative writing means evidence or proofs of what we write? Do you guys think readers here can't distinguish between hard facts with examples and relating stories to suit evil purposes?
I have addressed Teribobs and Reader. If anyone feels my write up has to do with what he wrote, that person should respond without any quarrels. I decide what I want to write in my write ups. Let anyone who is angry that I didn't mention his name go to hell.
A shameless liar, who spends sleepless nights because of Fru Ndi, tells readers that he works at 3 am Cameroon time because the internet is not busy. Hope you don't want to tell this forum that people don't post write ups here from Cameroon or they don’t do other work through the internet during the day. It is no surprise that you have decided to work in the night. How can a devil like you work in the day?
Shalom
Klemenceau
Posted by: Klemenceau | Thursday, 27 July 2006 at 01:15 PM
KLEMENCEAU ON MAKOGE's DEATH
You dis Clement so,
See where your tok tok don keep you? Truth has a way of coming out even if we try to whitewash. You can't suppress truth even in your own memory. It will always find a way of bursting out, leaving you embarrassed.
And for AXIS INSURGENTS like you, it explodes in your face alone even before you take it out to your tormentors whom you intend to maim with it.
This is what I'm saying, my friend: You said, "What about the evidence to proof that Fru Ndi ACTUALLY KILLED Makoge?" You did not just say "proof that Fru Ndi KILLED makoge" you said "ACTUALLY killed". Implication (in your inner mind, that is): I believe Ni John had a hand in the death of Makoge. But can anyone say he actually killed Makoge?
Well, if you're wondering if anyone can say for certain what you and others know - that Makoge's death left lots of questions unanswered - just ask FeliAtanghaGeorgeTangie of the National Assembly "now transfered to Denmark", ask him where Makoge's wife was at the time Makoge was gunned down. Then ask him where Ni John was too. Work the sums and tell me the answer in your next posting.
Look again at earlier defensive statements in your comment. You yourself can tell that in the absence of ACTUALLY, you to really seem to doubt that he did make militants drink blood in Fundong, kill Kohtem, kill his wife. You really seem to doubt those, but for Makoge, you believe he did it, so you bring in ACTUALLY. Maybe someone else would prove to how true the other allegations may be.
BenF
Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 27 July 2006 at 02:32 PM