Court Cases: Mezam, Mfoundi … And The Future Of The SDF

How can one in the present mess in which Fru Ndi has put the SDF, look at the future of the party? Let us say we look at it through the looking glass of what befell the all-powerful Communist Party of the Soviet Union, CPSU, in the early nineties.

If we do so, then the present predicament of militants of the Original SDF by no means indicates that their creative energy and creative ideas have collapsed.

As noted by militants of the CPSU, when the party was on the verge of collapse following the demise of the Soviet Union, thought at one time contracts and at another time, expands; thought sometimes sinks to the depths and disappears from the surface! That is what has happened to Fru Ndi's SDF; that is what is reflected by the SDF renaissance of Yaounde!

The havoc, which Fru Ndi has caused, can only be a moment in the destiny of the Original SDF. In the SDF of the Yaounde renaissance, all the creative ideas of the past will surely serve in the upkeep of the renaissance. After all, creative energy and creative ideas can never be extinguished; they are immortal.

The present fate of the SDF is like the fate of the CPSU when the new dawn came. Check this graphic rendition by one of its observers."After the coup, Yeltsin banned the CPSU on the grounds that it had usurped the authority of the state. The CPSU responded by appealing to the Constitutional Court.

The trial which lasted over a year further eroded communist support. Although people were more or less evenly split on whether Yeltsin's decision had been correct, by a margin of four to one, they agreed that the communist party had been more harmful than useful.

The Constitutional Court ruling on November 30, 1992, sought to provide a modicum of justice to both sides by ruling that Yeltsin had indeed acted properly by disbanding the national governing bodies of the CPSU for their role in conspiring against the state. The justices, however, also found that the millions of rank-and-file communists had not engaged in the conspiracy and therefore had the right to reconstitute the party" (see Nicolai Petro in The Rebirth of Russian Democracy, p. 174).

Replace the CPSU with Fru Ndi's SDF, and the Constitutional Court with the Mfoundi High Court and it fits in, does it not? A ruling that the NEC of the 2003-fame was more harmful than useful to militants will be in order, no?

The NEC of the 2003-fame actually conspired against militants, no? The rank-and-file militants did not engage in the conspiracy, no? Therefore the rank-and-file militants can continue with the SDF of the Yaounde renaissance!

Neither the further exploitation of the occult powers of the Takumbengs, nor the ranting of Fru Ndi about the past, nor his long sojourns in courts, nor the gesticulations of those who continue to believe in the past bouncing back in the future, can stop this.

Old habits die hard! Renaissance is about the future, not the past! Just as Marx "had found Hegel standing on his head and stood him up on his feet again", so too did the Yaounde renaissance for the SDF!

The NEC of the 2003-fame and their king had no clothes. They used a sword to keep militants blind. The sword was taken away from them by the Yaounde renaissance!

Prof. Tazoacha  AsonganyiYaounde

Comments

[Feli]

Prof Asonganyi,
I nod in disbelief when a man of your calibre exposes such political naivity. There was no convention in Yaounde. No accreditation, no committees or committee reports. There were no guests (from the diplomatic corps or friendly institutions-Friedrich Ebert Fonundation), no agenda. We all know there was a brawl which led to loss of life and after that, a power-monger stood up to declare himself chairman. Even when the dissidents met, they did not achieve even one tenth of the required quorum. Their group had no provincial executives, just 2 or 3 former NEC members and a single former NAC member. If you succumb to this unconstitionality and call it renaissance, I can then understand why some militants said you were the worst victorious candidate who came out of the Yaounde convention in 1999.

[kitstoff]

When I started reading the art. above, in my mind I could not even think it was done by B. Muna.No one will imagine the shock I had to discover it's author was Asonganyi of every person. Prof. it is really a shame on you to make such uterances. We are all witnesses of the wranglings in the party, caused in part by you Asonganyi. Your silence was reasonable to every one, but when you resurface with such rhetorics every one can place you now where you belong. If a man of your calibre can call the nonsense B. Muna did in Yaounde a convention, then I personally do not know who accorded the professorship to you. You lost your grip on the SDF and should be quiet. You are really not a politician. We will see where all this will land you. Let the three of you form a party and give it a name. Try that one on yourselves and judge your persons from it. Shammmmmme Asongayi.

[Muki StoneHall]

Proffessor Asonganyi Sir,
I was flabergasted,nonplussed and even confused when I saw your name below the above article.It would appear a new illness worse than AIDS has eaten(and is still eating) into the minds of all who go by the title "Professor".Professor Sir,what has happen to your conscience.How can you in broad daylight and infront of the whole world see black and claim it's white?
A less-than-two hour illegal meeting holds in Yaounde and a learned Professor terms it Rennaissance?
No matter what way the Biya regime will want to twist the case at Mfoundi to suit her selfish aims,the basic facts remain very clear:NAC as an Advisory Organ has no right over an elected body NEC and no matter what happens,support for the Yaounde dessidents will only be limited to the likes of political failures like Asonganyi.
Muki StoneHall.

[motto]

Muki, Feli, Kitstoff,

You people will are the ones who will never see white and call it black. I urge you to read the artcile again and compare with what happen in the CPSU, you will see an exact scenario.

You have the honour to tell the truth, this is what is most important, my dear friends.

Now Just a questioN for you people,

Who do you Blame,´THE ONE WHO CAUSED THE CHILD TO BE DIVIDED OR THE ONE WHO DIVIDED THE CHILD'?

[Julius Azemzi]

HISTORICAL EQUATION

Rush not into an un-balanced equation and let the equation be balanced. The formula is clear but time will tell if profs' faculty of sight is visionary. Comments on the above missive should be carefully thought. We have been grown.

Azemzi Julius

[Fon]

Prof. Asonganyi,
You have finally finished your own political coffin that you embarked on for about a year today.Your political career is now cremated in a casket prepared by you.I am afraid you have been cursed. Sorry and bye from the political scene.

[Anyah]

Motto,
poorly inspired,phrased or posed question. NOTE:No child has been divided.There`s just one SDF.
Secondly, examples like that are simply topical to highlight a point, they don`t touch any reality,especially not that of the SDF.Your professor can do better, as he licks his wounds in his political garage.
Azemzi,
its not visionary, its acalculated and partial judgment that hits rocks.Prof hasn`t yet figured the best way to calm or retaliate for his disgruntled spirit.
Are you there?

[Teribobs]

You can really see those who reason with their anuses like Feli Atangha George.

Motto,
don't bother yourself, those who only got jobs due to family or tribal ties will spend all the time defending their paymasters. Feli Atanga George the paper gatherer at BAD Ndam's office can never read any article objectively. You can call the venerated Prof. whatever, that will not change his stance. Afterall you will never get there. Go to ur boss and dig more lies for another smear campaign. We all know what you are up to. I know what you are saying within you - chei! even Prof. too no sorry we oh.

There is one bullock Muki Stonewall who needs to go back to school to learn the meaning of 'Renaissance'. I presume his real name is stone head and not stone wall. How can 'sense' get into such a head?

[Teribobs]

Anyah,
You don't have a choice. SDF is divided. There is a commercial wing(CDF) led by JFN and his lieutenants BAD Ndam and co and there is a progressive wing led by the no-nonsense Ben Muna.
Your chairman has really dealt with you. He has taught you the language he understands best. Can't you read and analyze? All you can think of is 'retaliate, revenge, violence etc etc. Little Motomu has given you guys sleepless nights coz you trained him and like Bin Laden he is using your skills to expose you. I know you should be weeping like Feli Atanga George coz people have exposed your 'salt licking'. wo yo oh!

[BenB]

Hahahahahahahahahaha-woyowoyowoyowoyo. FIRE TO DE PIPO!!

[BenB]

IMAGINE WHAT NEXT

Watch out for the next edition of The Post. Anembom Monju who's shy of having her name in the crossfire, would very probably have secondary school teacher (so-called "Professor" Takoungang, perhaps another LSE impostor) come up with another incoherent write up seeking to "finish" Asonganyi for revealing that the "king" had no clothes, after all.

Or maybe FeliAtanghageorge would make one of his magic "phone calls" to his Danish journalist or someone claiming to be Asonganyi's professor or roommate in the UK to say he never obtained a degree or stole a burnsen burner. One of those things they do after a frustrating crying session.

Won't it be interesting to read? Hahahahahahaha-woyowoyowoyo. Sofa pipo of CDF (Chairman Don Finish) Party.

BenF

[motto]

Anyah,

I would have been mad if you could have attempted to rephrased what I wrote. But in all mediocrity, you went below to react to what I wrote, if as you said lacked inspiration.

If there is just one SDF as you say, then what do we know about the court cases of logos, names, letter headed papers etc? Can a single organ fight for those ´parameters´ within itself?

The problem with some of you and particularly somebody like Anyah is that he prefers to fool himself and deny himself of his own shadow.

Is it an unknown fact to an unborn cameroonian child that SDF has two factions, give it what ever name you want?

Anyah why do you want to live and die in mediocrity? is this denial of reality that has taken us where we are today. If you are a family man, spare your children the lies that SDF is not in factions today, better stay quiet.

I don´t intend to make this write up personally but could hardly avoid doing so.

Definitely Anyah I am here?

[Teribobs]

Fon,
It keeps coming like fire and brimstone. You haven't seen the worst. I have adviced you several times to get a life-jacket else you will sink with the boat. Like BenB stated earlier, begin a smear campaign to counter Prof's truths. wuna go well so?
It is the end of his political career with feymen of the CDF and that is normal. You will be shocked at his political future. Wuna don see weti?

[Anyah]

Motto,BenF(Teribobs),
for the first person, your small logic will kill you. You and your master Ben muna would steal at night not during the day. Wait, elections are around soon.

You BenF(tERIBOBS)
WHEN talk pass u ugo change bring cosh using different name say teribobs. u no fit defend lie forever. ii be even think say u di talk sense but this two days dom open my eyes dem, u bi nthing.why bcos dem di talk true.all man di see am oh. no feel say u fit convince any man with that small cheeky phrases them. cheii u strong for shame ohh.U go only come back make ha ha haha ha,sunday school, who di make sunday sch for here? if no bi u. very stupid and childish i mean say pikinish. dat lost fight na for u one. i go write na only pidgin bcos all man dom see am say better no dey u for english.u feel say u be world bank president for cosh, bengbisterirbobs,nuissance no need cosh.

[Roki of Shanghai]

Do i smell revolting stench of self-esteem?This man Asonganyi has soiled the little reputation he had left with his verbosity.I can now see clearly where he stands.Fellas, it is clear that this man Asonganyi feels good about what is happening in the SDF today.He dances and laughs when no one is watching.This is someone who is "fighting" from within.If Asonganyi had an atom of love and passion for SDF, he would have been writing how he is helping to rescue the party from the hands of political midgits like Ben Muna and co.From that article, it is but clear that Asonganyi really makes the mistake of thinking this party will go down in shambles what an error on his part.Mark my words fellas, the authentic SDF will go on.No matter how much hijackers try,it will only be an energizer for the truth to come to light.When the SDF goes through this, only the true members will stand tall."Prof" don't think that because it happened to communist party of the Soviet Union, it will happen to SDF.Rules change buddy.Open your eyes prof, you'll see as time unfolds.

Truth pressed to earth shall rise again.

[Teribobs]

Anyah,
Hope you will last. Forget about language. Your superiors can tell you of what mettle BENB and Teribobs are made of when it comes to that. Is that all you had to say concerning Prof? Guess you are still 'digging'?

[Eugene Ateh]

Dear Prof. Asonganyi,

You don't negotiate or reconcile on the basis of trust but on the basis of investigations. You were part of the team that reconciled Ben Muna with the SDF without adequate investigations. Some politicians leave poilitics unpopolar but are later judged by history as being right. This can be said of one time US President Truman. Some leave unpopular and history later judged them to be wrong (President Hoover). Let me give you the undeserved honor of using such powerful men as an analogy to you. Unfortunately at the end of your political career you were not only unpopular but you have proven yourself to be wrong. Thank you for making it easier for historians to judge you. Very few politicians have the guts to write their epitaph. As a failed politian it would have been worthwhile if you embark on some investigative activities to prove your critics wrong. By making blanket comparisms of the SDF in Cameroon and the collapse of a communist party/state in the far east would do you and us no good.
Eugene Ateh

[mukete]

They have the habit of attacking anyone that says the least against the man who has enslaved their conscience. Unfortunately for them, while others take long to expose the nakedness of Ni John Fru Ndi, I do it on a constant basis.

I have read and re-read the article from the learned professor. It however came in when I was preparing a sermon about a political leader in Cameroon (name witheld for now). I am going to cook this sermon with what I saw in church yesterday, together with the seasoned reasoning of our learned professor, before posting.

Those who have been struggling not to scatter their brainless heads on theit computer monitors should please sit far away from their monitor as they read the next facts.

mukete

[Eyengue]

Culled from le messeger:

Qui de Bernard Muna ou de John fru Ndi mérite de diriger le Sdf

 Aucun des deux, on les a assez vu 28.7% (87)

 seul John fru Ndi peut battre Paul Biya 20.7% (63)

 Il faut donner à Muna sa chance 50.4% (153)

 votes: 303

[petit papa]

Previewing your Comment
Please rejoinders. We have been told several times that we shouldn't be more catholic than the pope. let us learn to criticise objectively. Prof Asonganyi has a right to his own opinion and should therefore not be insulted; this is a public media not a mantango house.
There is a crisis in SDF which we all know is a leadership crisis. Fru, Prof Asonganyi, Barrister Ben Muna, Prof Ngwasiri can all be judged as true compatriots at the same time they can all be judged as failures. This judgment will all depend from what point of view you define your own democracie avance.
I personally thank God that Fru Ndi never became the president of this country. His courage has moved Cameroon ten steps ahead in politics, but his greed has moved the same Cameroon fifteen steps behind democracy. Our beloved party has become a Santa-Mbengwi party not even a northwest party as it was a few years back.
Those who still believe in the SDF think of ways and means to propagate the original ideologies of the party, not worship FRU NDI or condemn ASONGANYI, MUNA, NGWASIRI or whosoever.

[BenB]

OK, Axis gangsters, wona decide weti wona wan tok.

Decide if you want to say Muna is an outright SDF frontist who wanted the party to use arms to end this Biya nonsense and get to power or he is a lame duck who can only operate with cover from Biya. Mind you readers know who is dealing with Biya. No one has forgotten.

It looks like the important thing to wona is to kosh Muna, just any kosh. It's like saying of a child, "look ya big coconut head" then in just another instance you say of the same child "look ya small head like lizard". Weti wona really want tok about Muna. Make man no get hypertension ooooh.

BenF

[Tumasap Nwana Paul]

Prof Asonganyi,
Thanks very much for the contributions that you continue to make in the search od democracy for Cameroon.Those who consider you a failure are one party adepts who have failed to acknowledge the fact that we cannot conveniently transform Cameroon without transforming the SDF. The SDF under Fru Ndi had become nothing but a very dull copy of the CPDM.I am amazed at the efforts Fru Ndi puts in to match up with his model Biya, just like Biya Pa John wants to set a record in power, just like Biya , Pa John is not accountable to any one and people like Eugene Ateh and co will not see a problem in the party not been able to be audited after sixteen years, Just like Biya, Fru Ndi claims he is carrying out consultations to form a government perharps to govern ntarikon, for Gods sake Fru Ndi is a disaster .Nothing happens without a reason, we all mourned , protested, and suffered gruesome brutalities in 1992 when the victory of the Union for change and the SDF was stolen, but today many are thanking God that he spared Cameroon from another dictator who may have been worse than Ahidjo and Biya combined and the prospect of a civil war.The results of the poll in Le messager reveals that only a handful of Biya take Fru Ndi seriously again, that the man will supervise the beating of Journalists, that he will shamelessly claim over the media that he single handedly created the SDF, that the man will send people to kill a most hard working cadre like Gregoire Diboule on May 26 of all other days makes one wonder in amazement at how low the man has gone.The future of the opposition and the SDF is brighter than most people think, militants need more education, they need to be reminded that Ben Muna is now at the helm after Fru Ndi's romance affairs with Biya could no longer be tolerated.To those who are quick to condemn Prof Asonganyi, let them know the man served the party with total dedication and without a salary for some 12 years, Fru Ndi receives over 500.000 a month from the party in addition to the kick backs the regime sends to him via Mbah Ndam, the extortions he makes from the Mayors and the MPs and contribution from some friendly countries that he swindled in the past.Prof Asonganyi stepped offered not to stand again for office before the scandalously incompetent legal team led by Bad Ndam in an over zealous effort to please Fru Ndi drew the party into one calamity upon calamity.Prof Asonganyi simply did what any man of conviction will do in place and no matter how hard cronies of Fru Ndi may try to run him down , he remains an icon within opposition circles and has continued to contribute actively even with his loss of membership in the SDF.Thank you and keep Prof.The opposition will bounce back so will the original SDF.

[BenB]

LOVE & DEFEND SDF, SPIT OUT NI JOHN THE CHINESE WAY

By their fruits you shall know them. From what they say you easily tell they don't even know the difference between an institution and its leader at a certain point in time.

How else can you judge these disciples of DOOM, Axis of fanaticism to whom the word SDF is synonyms with Ni John? Ni John messes up, you point it out, they say you want to destroy the lone viable opposition party.

Yes, our darling party still dwarfs others. But do we only want to be the best losers? Ngwasiri, Asonganyi, Muna, et al, have set the party on a revival that would expose just how much harm had been done by COMMERCIAL ACTIVISTS, backed by their Axis of blind supporters who always want to be reminded that Ni John is not SDF, neither does he own it. Wona hear?

OK, I'll make wona understand. Do you know Deng Xiaoping, Chinese leader who died months ago? OK, let's begin with Mao Tse-Tung, the father of Communist China. There were people in China who thought the country would cease to exist when he died. He did a tremendous job setting the country on the path of mentality change and self-sufficient development.

But he died. China continued. Down the line of his succession was this man called Deng Xiaoping. He was instrumental in the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, two events that changed the face of China. Two events without which even Mao's own revoilution might have been brought to nought.

Well, you of course know how Deng Xiaoping ended: in disgrace. After all of those achievements, one incident ruined the good work of Deng. He ordered the army to brutally quel the Tsianamen Square students' uprising in 1989. HE USED THE PEOPLE'S POWER AGAINST THE PEOPLE.

The party cadres knew he had overstepped his bounds and purged him from power. He died in confinement; house arrest if you'll understand better. China continues to walk tall today. Mao gone, Ziao Ziyang gone. Li Peng gone. Hu Huabang gone. Et al. And most of all, Deng Xiaoping gone.

Of course, some disciples of Deng tried to hold China hostage by floating the type of sterile ideas our Axis friends are floating here about the infalibility of Deng. They promised doom if he was removed from power.

But wise men in the Chinses communist party knew better. The people's interest most always prevail above all else. In other words, when the people say "SDF power", leaders who say "SDF tower", have lost vision. They have betrayed the people.

They must be purged as Ni John has been. Let him negotiate his place in history honourably or else let him go and mind the business of his CDF party - Chiarman Don Finish.

Even after Muna, Ngwasiri, Asonganyi, et al, including some of us, Cameroon will need good people to manage its affairs. Outdated tin-gods will not hold a whole people hostage, except through Axis Chindas. Hope they are proud of themselves.

BenF

[Watesih]

The Propaganda Officer of ,"The SDF Renaissance of Yaounde" has finally spoken.
Cameroonians are very lucky for the past few days because the role of all these Political Chameleons in the bid to tear apart the SDf has finally been brought to the fore.Last week Muna said," What counts most is to know what Fru Ndi is to do with his own faction of the SDF and what Ngwasiri
,and I will do with ours",putting to rest suppositions that he was a lone bird.Prof.
Asonganyi`s "Original SDF" has finally given birth to " The SDF Renaissance of Yaounde"!What a Political Historian ,with original nomenclatures!
Its really amazing that Prof. Asonganyi
will always choose the wrong historical correlates to judge the situation in the SDF.Lasttime his new found hope of blindly comparing the SDf to the UPC did not last for long,because the Bamenda convention held ,to his displeasure ,and the old vague-sing-song of pointing accusing fingers at Fru Ndi continues.Today ,he wants to take us to Yeltsins Russia,a Communist state .If the Justices also find out that the rank and file militants of the SDF hadn`t anything to do with the situation Muna put the SDF in in Yaounde,they will also rule for them,and it is this rank and file militants who are closer to Fru Ndi ,than to any of you.By the way is Cameroon the Soviet Union breaking up into independent states ,where one of these states will be afraid to carry forward the notorious policies of the old Empire?
We thought by now these French sponsored sulking babies were going to a complete break from Fru Ndi`s name and hammer home the point about their policies,but to the greatest displeasure of cameroonians,the old frain of 2003 NEC is far from dying out.Professor Asonganyi,unless you don`t know the meaning of this word,when there is a Renaissance,you don`t go back to the old crass and smear your body all over.You should be talking more about ,'a renaissnace 2006 NEC' and what it has in store for Cameroonians.
Really! Prof. Asonganyi is fast passing for the sulking baby of the century.We are not here in Sunday school or Kindergarten,
where a politician will jump out from his slumber and start asking rhetorical questions,"The NECof 2003-fame actually conspired against militants nooooo?, the NEC of 2003 was more harmful ,than useful to militants noooooooo?, the rank-and-file militants did not conspire in the conspiracy nooooooooooo? .Cameroonians know fully well that all the decisions taken in NEC be it in 2000,20001,20003,2004 or the 1990`s was done so under Prof.Asonganyi`s watch.That is more the reason it took him a long time to come out clear and solidarise with the Yaounde faction.Before when Muna and Ngwasiri were talking about the Yaounde convention,he was talking about putting in place his "Original SDF".During the Convention in Yaounde,he steer clear ,especially as trouble ensued thereafter.He has now jumped out of the stupor he found himself in,because he has the feeling that the court that refused to entertain the case in Bamenda is outrightly handing over the SDF to them.His original idea of an"Original SDf" had nothing to do with what Muna and Ngwasiri were doing in Yaounde.Where was he when the imaginary convention held in Yaounde?Has this supposed Yaounde convention suddenly become a Renaissance because the courts ruled against the SDF? De qui se moque t`on?

[Watesih]

Ok,i will make wona understand! Do you know the Chinese leader Deng Xiao Ping who died few months ago? Hahahahahahahaha? Which Chinese leader died even few years ago?
BenteribobsFB, you are a butterfly that thinks himself a bird.You are not fit for public debate of any nature.You don`t have the ideas and the medium to do so.Go back to your master`s chambers,and do some mean secretarial duties there!Pidgin here,pidgin there! What will a young Cameroonian born and bred in Brasil understand by ,'Ok,i`ll make wona understand" Shame!

[BenB]

Watesih ha you over vex so? You nova hear say over vex fit kill man? Na only "wona" vex you so? OK let me correct. I don't want you to be angry. Let me write "wona" in English. "OK, I'll make YOU PEOPLE understand." You don glad nooooh. No vex so, uncle.

BenF

[BenB]

WONA GO CRY ASONGANYI PASS SO

You see Watesih, your rhetorical questions at the end of your previous lamentations here answer the whole thing about Asonganyi. You should have tried to find the answers before shouting them in public. Asonganyi's declaration should let you know how much of the FORCES OF GOOD INTENTION are mobilising towards the Yaounde Renaisance of the SDF.

Wona all don gree for here say Asonganyi is a vital element, haven't you?

I know how the Axis of Evil Propaganda were waiting to hear Asonganyi one day say "I belong to Bamenda, not to Yaounde". They would have showered praises on him, the way they did when they learned that Kale was going to Bamenda. They called him a saint, the most reasonable politician in the whole world, et al, but turned round to insult and discredit him to set the stage for Ma Tamanjong to be handed the "SG" post on a platter of gold. That's just how wona di function.

To have been looking up to Asonganyi was in itself day dreaming. Moomoo ngumbes. Didn't we inform wona here that Asongagnyi was the operational organiser of the Yaounde convention? OK, wona no bi believe. You are so used to lying that you think everyone else lies like wona.

Now wona understand say Yaounde was about Renaisance not quest for power. We saw how wona all were astounished that Ngwasiri didn't aspire to be party Chairman. All ting wey wona know na power. No ideas, no conviction. Now wona don see say Asonganyi was fighting to have the original ideas of the party respected, not for power.

Wona see am say, like a gentleman, he organised a convention, let others take leadership and he is satisfied with his work as a kingmaker. Solid team. Wona go see more soon. many MPs who sponsored the Yaounde convention are just hiding from 8.2. They'll come out soon.

Wona lost wona chance to benefit from Asonganyi's noble ideas and character. You only have yoursleves to blame for showering praises on Ni John at a time young men like wona for guide Ni with good, fresh ideas to embrace Asonganyi's "original SDF" idea. Wona be fear because anything wey e want truth, wona hate am. Now it's too late.

CDF - Chairman Don Finish, all all, kpata kpata.

BenF

[Watesih]

BenteribobsFB,
Don`t distort facts.My bone of contention was your lack of facts ,not only your pidgin.Answer the question,which Chinese leader died a few months ago? Are you aware that we discovered that Asonganyi was a selfish being a long time ago,and when we ask him to leave us alone he clung to us,and outrightly refused to hand over the party property.If we could not count on him when he was still with us ,it is not when we discovered that he prefers to die fighting to keep the party`s car ,than buy one for himself.He refused to work in Bamenda where the party was founded,but prefered to be cruising around in the party`s car in Yaounde,until it was forced out of his hands.This is the person,Benteribobs thinks we would have loved to declare himself for us.
BenteribobsFb,who is complaining about the other? The SDF or Asonganyi?.If he doesn`t talk about Fru Ndi,nobody will ever think of him in Cameroon.With the Renaissance in Yaounde,what is the need still talking about an outdated story of 2003 NEC. Your Yaounde Renaissance can`t put in place its own NEC? You people are just hanging in the wind.Give Cameroonians a break!

[GEORGE]

In the Bamenda congress, we sang, danced and chanted. Then we prcliamed FRU NDI antional chairman with no one viable person to stand against him. There was no debate, no new ideas brought forward through critical thinking.Only a general concensus!!!!!

In Younde, we danced, sang, chanted and procliam BIYA the natural candidate and national chairman of the party. No debate, talkless of critical thinking anddicussions which are forbidden within this cult. Only a general concensus!!.

So what the difference between the SDF nad the CPDM?.

Give NGWASIRI and Co a chance lets see if they can bring critical thinking and debate to this country. We are in dying need for a change and i dont see any of these cronies of PAUL and JOHN able to bring that change.

[Feli]

If you want to change Cameroon and you start by telling lies then the whole process is faulted.Ni John Fru Ndi was NEVER proclaimed Chairman by acclamation. He went through elections like every other person and scored 1477 out of 1499 votes casted. 22 persons made use of their democratic right to cast an empty ballot. That is the basics of democracy which is true to the SDF unlike the CPDM where a person is proclaimed National chairperson in abstentia. Never you try to compare the SDF and CPDM because the difference is like day and night.

[Kinetics]

Mr Tumasap Paul Nwana,
I want to say thank you for your objective piece. It is really unfortunate that we still continue to worship some individuals as God sent and infallable. The SDF has got to reinvent itself, if it has to do any meaningful politics of the opposition in Cameroon. The steam and fervour is gone. You can visible see that the the Chairman is tired. He no longer has the zeal and passion to crusade for change in Cameroon. There is lack of Trust, Transparency and Accountability in the SDF. Basic democratic principles like Tolerance and the respect of Different Opinion has no place in the Party anymore. You cannot successfully run a political party only with Yes men and women. This is exactly what Biya has done with the CPDM. And see the mess and suffereing we find ourselves in Today. I find it unacceptable that Young men and Women are not groomed to ensure succession in the Party.
I believe it is time we change our Mentality and see things objectively. We have to rise above believing in people and tribes to believing in Progressive, Accountable, Responsible and Effectively working systems in Governments, Politics and the Civil Society.
Otherwise, we shall all be domed for disaster.

Kinetics,
Cambridge
Massachusetts

[Atangha]

Dear ALL,
I know some are happy that I've disappeared; I've been off the line for a few days but everything is now in fine fettle. To begin with, Prof. Asonganyi has been an enemy of change & progress in the SDF! Why? As the Permanent Secretary of the Coaltion, he worked against the dreams & aspirations of his own party by helping NDAM NJOYA to declare himself candidate of the Coalition. Prove to this: when a meeting is held at the Chairman residence at Omnisport, the next minute, Prof. rushes to Hotel Aurore & plan with the likes of MAIDADI, NDAM NJOYA, etc. to counter what had been planned by his own party & candidate. Furthermore, he said if FRU NDI becomes President of Cameroon, he'll go on exile. In fact, a similar scenario happened in 1993 in Nigeria when as the Chairman of the then SDP, Chief Tony ANENIH conspired with President Ibrahim BABANGIDA to annul the freest, farirest & most transparent elections in the history of Nigeria.

In the latest edition of the Guadian Post, Prof. said he'll join the RDPC junta if invited. My humble question to these new converts of BenB et al, Petit Papa & Tumasap Nwanna Paul is who is Prof. fooling? Certainly not SDF & her militants. This is the time for Prof. Asonganyi to join the RDPC as NKEMNGU & Co. did. NKEMNGU is now an Editorialist with Cameroon Tribune; he can be named a director somewhere! "L'impossible n'est pas le Cameroun" as the RDPC people usually say.

Everyone can now see that RDPC in NOT a political party. It's a gathering of thieves pretending to fight the ills they've been practising since 1982. Their so-called congress was the worst I've ever seen since birth! A day spent on clapping & singing? Was there need to bring people to Y'de? Weren't the "Motions of Support" more than enough to make Biya National President? It's now abundantly clear that they're out to transform democracy to biyamocray. I'm urging their remnants like Ni Ben to follow the footsteps of NKEMNGU & EFFIMBA than thinking that the courts will make him Chairman of the SDF. On the other hand, SDF militants should start preparing for next year's elections. These courts cases & detention are a way of distracting us from focusing on how to exterminate the RDPC junta from the surface of the earth. Quote me anywhere, "RDPC is existing today because of one man called Paul Biya".

Cheers & I'll be back!

[Teribobs]

"His courage has moved Cameroon ten steps ahead in politics, but his greed has moved the same Cameroon fifteen steps behind democracy. Our beloved party has become a Santa-Mbengwi party not even a northwest party as it was a few years back." Petit papa

Petit papa, Fru Ndiists worship him. He is a demi-god. To them JFN is chairman for life even if he doesn't deliver anymore.

Tumasap, you will soon be given a name. Fru Ndiists on this forum do not want anybody to speak the truth. We have echoed your view point and will continue to do so until JFN comes to his senses. That former Ntarikon hero is just a shadow now even though his blind followers stil think he can continue to manipulate us.

Watesih, with your water-water mop', when the new leaders put up new strategies aren't you the first to start telling the world they run after the media and not the media running after them like ur JFN? JFN will always make news whether he accepts his status as chairman of CHAIRMAN DON FINISH(CDF) or not. He is 'au-passé'. For your information there are still many who at the appointed time will tell you where they belong. You can continue deceiving yourself that they belong to your CDF.

George, those numbskulls who are blindly supporting JFN will never see with new eyes. Thank God many others are willing to give Muna et al a chance. Never mind. Time will tell.

[Teribobs]

Feli Atangha George,
No need welcoming you. You have always been around. We can welcome the pseudonym Atangha and not you. Who do you think you can fool?

Is that the latest from BAD NDAM? We are now used to your calumnies so we read them as such.

Tumasap and petit papa, don't say i am a prophet. we know these guys and know all of their moves. Let their usual intimidation and violence not frighten you. They are paper tigers.

dem don see weti?

[Klemenceau]

No body expected Asonganyi to say something better about Fru Ndi. Let no one be surprised to read such from a disgruntled Asonganyi who was forced to hand over the SDF property in his keeping.
I can see many people have surfaced to shout Amen to what he wrote. These people are those who have been crying and asking many questions why their Professor Asonganyi was dismissed from the SDF. So it is no surprise to see them come out shouting because Asonganyi wrote against Fru Ndi.
Fru Ndi has destroyed the SDF,blablabla. Why not abandon Fru Ndi and his SDF and form a new party? Real politicians who believe in themselves and their policies will just forget about the SDF and form a new party as Sharon of Israel did. He left Likud and formed Kadima. Because people believed in his policies, Kadima won the elections in Israel just a few months after it was formed. Someone will say Fru Ndi should leave and form his own party. Fru Ndi has been considered a very bad person by Prof. Asonganyi, Ngwasiri, Ben Muna and co. Since he is bad he would like to die with his SDF, so those who think they are angels should get together and formed a new party. I don’t see why they should be afraid to form a party. They are out to bring change in Cameroon and with all the noise makers in this forum, they (Prof Asonganyi, Ngwasiri, Ben Muna and co can boast of talented campaign and propaganda ministers and managers.
If these belly politicians had confidence in themselves or were better than Fru Ndi, they would have left and formed a new party and let the militants who support them follow them. Shameless hypocrites passing around for politicians.
Every day you keep on shouting Fru Ndi, Fru Ndi Fru Ndi. Let's see how the court will hand the SDF to Ben Muna.
Shalom
Klemenceau

[Vally]

Watesih and co,

We must all accept one thing,that the sdf is divided and risk going to the duldrum.
Let us be honest to our self,when this sdf saga started we all saw the facts,read the facts and now gradually we are seeing the fallouts.I am a disciple of Prof. Asonganyi for the way he managed the secretariat when he was SG,i wounder if the sdf will ever get another competent hands like his.

Prof Asonganyi now calls the yaounde convention renaissance,this is the end for fRu ndi,the man is buying the idea of yaounde,as always we of the NW will be insulting him and castigating his political career,but the truth is only a fool will be trooping behind Fru ndi.

The ideas we all discussed here before all the conventions are now coming to hunt us.

What will happen if Fru ndi lost the case in Yaounde?will he has the political authority to keep pushing his sdf forward,No.The prof is seeing the truth from the tunnel.Fru ndi will be losing the case in yaounde,will he accept defeat and how does he managed matters?His sdf is in trouble.Let watch, time will be proving the prof right.
Vally
England.

[Teribobs]

Klemenceau,
I knew you will not sleep when your house is on fire. You are asking us to form our own party as if your Fru Ndi formed SDF. Fru Ndi should be contented with his CDF(CHAIRMAN'S DEMOCRATIC FRONT) or to be more explicit with his Chairman's Style of Democracy. If Fru believes in what you are trying to say, why will he fire anybody who points out wrong in the party? Klemenceau, if you were objective you could have said something about the salary loss Asonganyi incured. What interests you is that he withheld party property. Why don't you comment on the earnings and kick-backs that JFN, BAD NDAM and his gang are having? I guess you will say BAD NDAM has declared his assets and accounts when he mentioned those petit financial institutions and the 'miettes' he is depositing there. He has kept the real thing far away from here. They learnt that from their bedfellow Bi Mvondo. I know you are still wounded coz Prof let us know that these people have been eating from the CPDM mangeoire. When the FEICOM dossier will be exposed, I will see where your friend Feli Atangha George will do when his boss is sent to accompany Ondo Ndong.

We understand you and ur camp and will deal with you accordingly.

[motto]

Klemenceau

Did i hear you say Fru Ndi´s SDF? Why Should the brain behind the formation of SDF now Abandone it to an ´intruder´ if you will permit the use of that word?

Did you read the write up that was posted in this forum,being an interview given to Nkemfac Ofege?

Why do we always claim to have selective amnesia when it concerns facts about SDF?

SDF, as we now know was and is not the brain child of Fru Ndi, No way, that is why all dismissal and sacking going on is part of a hijacking process. Can´t you see that?

His administrative style, shows somebody who is definitely not vested with the original idea in what Prof Asonganyi, calls the ´authentic´ SDf.

Please Klemenceau, spare Cameroonians this kind of blind followership.

[Klemenceau]

Teribobs

The truth is that I will die behind Fru Ndi not because he is a god but because people want to present him as the worst politician Cameroon has ever had. In fact all these guys calling Fru Ndi names today are those who wanted to join the CPDM but because Fru Ndi took his stance against joining the government, they became disgruntled.
Teribobs, you come again with "When the FEICOM dossier will be exposed, blabla. Why are you guys always making statements without backing? We need facts not empty talk man
Look Teribobs the truth is that if Fru Ndi and Mbah Ndam had any secret dealings, the likes of Ngwasiri, Ben Muna, Prof. Asonganyi, even you your man BenB and the venerated fiction writer in this forum would have before now used the evidences to destroy Fru Ndi's political career. The truth is that all the stories against Fru Ndi and Mbah Ndam are framed up to ridicule them.
From the look of things, Prof. Asonganyi, Ben Muna and co will surely jump up with joy if Fru Ndi should become incapacitated today. They will rejoice because it will give them room to take over the SDF. Even without Fru Ndi, no true SDF militant will ever stand to support Ben Muna. His presence alone is enough to scare away potential voters.
Professor Asonganyi like Ngwasiri will sit and shout aloud that Fru Ndi is eating with the CPDM but when asked to give some examples, they become tongue tied.
Teribobs, the time for "I hear say" politics has passed. Let them proof that Fru Ndi and Mbah Ndam are really bad and they will get the support they want with just a twinkle of an eye.
People should not feel that they can frame up stories and deceive everybody. Let those who want to follow them continue. I am for Fru Ndi and will continue to stand behind him until I get hard proofs to show that he has really betrayed the SDF family.
Let Ben Muna continue to corrupt poor Cameroonians to support him. Let's see how far he will go.
Shalom
Klemenceau

[Klemenceau]

Mr. Motto

Sorry I didn't put my use of the word "Fru Ndi's SDF" in quotes. I was merely using the expression those who are against Fru Ndi have been using. They say Fru Ndi considers the SDF as his property. If Fru Ndi really wants to hang on it, I think what is important is not the name. Good politicians who can convince militants will form a new party and the militants will in no time switch to embrace the new party and its policies.
Motto I don't understand what you mean by the "brain behind the formation of SDF...." Who are/is the brain behind the formation of the SDf you are talking about? It is even funny that you went as far as quoting Ntemfack Ofege the once respected journalist now turned gossip. The Ntemfack in yesteryears is not the Ntemfack nowadays Mr. Motto. This guy should be counted among the pocket journalists parading the streets of Cameroon like Motomu with the red eyes like a "banga man". The difference is that he Ntemfack is not living in Cameroon. I pray he goes back to Cameroon and pay the rents and salaries he owes many there.
Please Motto read the SDF website and tell me who the brain behind the formation of the SDf was. I hope you won't say Fru Ndi wrote what we have as SDF history in the party's website.
Shalom
Klemenceau

[Atangha]

Vally,
This dictatorship knows pretty well that Muna is nothing but a mere Trojan horse. Someone who has no constituency. Muna is supposedly an SDF militant based in Y'de, but you will never find him around the neighbourhoods of Biyem-Assi or Obili, where he can easily meet and share "authentic SDF" values with people from his own supposedly area of origin. And you know he won't be able answer a few questions. So, Ni Ben has no other choice than to shuttle between D'la & Y'de to grant press interviews to his "new friends" in Le Messager. I hope they're indeed true friends not friends in need?

If we go by the so-called judgement you guys are ever celebrating, Muna is not a militant of the SDF. Why? Because the illegal NEC made him a new militant of the SDF in September 2004. I hope you've not forgot that he resigned on the eve of the council elections in 1996. But thanks to the legal department of the SDF, that judgement was appealed & Muna finally lost his membership on May 22, 2006.

Now Vally, ask BenF to tell us what happened with Ni Ben when he was in Arusha Tanzania; who're Pa Muna's relatives (uncles or aunts) in Ngyen-Mbo or anywhere in Momo Division; why was Pa Muna's "cry-die" boycotted by his supposedly kith & kin of Ngyen-Mbo. If he answers these questions, I'll know what to say next.

In the meantime, Teribobs_BenF_Momo, etc., am not George Tangie, Hon. MBAH NDAM's Private Secretary. You people shy away from debates and indulge in petty gossips and mudslinging. RDPC copied your drama - you guys had a day Congress, so too theirs! Aren't you all birds of a feather? Worse still, you don't even have ideas to carry on with your "authentic SDF"! In the SDF we've true militants who work for the party NOT paid agents like you whom Ni Ben is using to mislead & misinform via internet. Do well to advice Ni Ben to use the money at his disposal & help the people of Ngyen-Mbo & Mbengwi, etc., giving to news organs (like Le Messager, etc.) won't make him popular. If he does that, the people can start forgetting about the prison in Mbengwi & the 10 metres tar (road?) from the entrance to the family compound in Ngyen-Mbo.

I remain an avow militant of the SDF & will stand by the TRUTH even on the last day. No amount of money, blackmail, distortion and whatsoever means will make me retreat or change name.

Cheers & I'll be back!

[Watesih]

Hi Vally,
I don`t know whether you this boy will continuously swim in the sea of confusion all your life.In May when you mistook a bar in Melen for the Yaounde conference centre,you made us know that you met Asonganyi.When you met him ,what was the subject of your discussion? Today readers only have their fangs to laugh when you start jumping around like an overcharged electron that Asonganyi has bought the idea of the Yaounde convention,by christianing it 'Renaissance'.
So you mean he did not buy the idea before?
But you reported from Cameroon that he came to the venue for just a courtesy call.How did you even see him,granted that you spent the whole day in a bar in Melen with your
satellite laptop? You see how lies catch up with small minds like yours.You people don`t yet know the people you have as adversaries on this forum.We will get everyword from your mouths and use this to show your nakedness to Cameroonians.
There`s one thing i know in my life,that slow learners do not easily keep tract of lies.They easily get caught up.Vally you can see how your master the fiction writer always makes a song here of Fru Ndi`s illiteracy,only to turn round and celebrate his status as a cheap-side brad when it comes to academics.But he consoles himself by saying there are illiterates and illiterates.To him some illiterates are 80%
intelligent and some are 20%.Those are the side effects when you pretend to bandy words on a public forum with people who outrightly outsmart you.
If you are celebrating a man who refused to go over and work in Bamenda as the Secretary General we have never seen ,then you are waisting your time.Does the SDf limit itself in Yaounde? Is there any doubts to Cameroonians now when he awaists the verdict from his masters in the Yaounde. Vally there`s no good example from this man.The party had to use the courts to recuperate its material from him. He celebrated the demise of his boss` wife.He`s
vindictive,that`s why he is praying that all illluck should befall this party.
courts? He is already trying to bury the SDf alive,praying that the fate that befell a Party in a Communist Dictatorship like Russia should also befall the SDF.Politics is not static ,and we can take any course at anytime.We keep our militants abreast with the developments ,and prepare their minds to take drastic decisions,incase the French sponsored pimps try to rob them of their rights.Vally ,you surely know what KADIMA means?

[BenB]

THEIR NAME GAME SHOWS THEY'RE NO LONGER AT EASE

FeliAtanghaGeorge or you prefer to be called more precisely George TANGIE, no worry ya sef about any further change of names. You changed them already, we still saw clean and clear. All you need do is rally your Axis of Lies and Propaganda and organise them even small. Decide what wona want tok and say it. Who knows you may win some hearts and minds.

Well, I know Klemenceau is on call today. Yesterday it was Watesih. He stayed up more than 24 hours responding to very sneeze that spoke ill of COMMERCIAL ACTIVISTS or that spoke well of the FORCES OF GOOD INTENTION (the Renaisance group). Today na Klemenceau he turn. You only come in when you realise they're messing it up, but unfortunately you are too angry to make ya point. Take it easy. No bi war.

By the way, I like your proclamation of inflinching adherence to the SDF come rain come shine. It's to people like you that Muna said those who are dying to have Ni John as their chairman have a right to do so, but they're free to return to the right fold any tinme good sense leads them to.

But like Klemenceau says, though he mixed it up (and I thank him from re-echoing an idea I proposed here weeks and weeks ago), Ni John may behave like Ariel Sharon and form his own party. Sharon felt he had strong ideas that the rest of the cadres of the Likud party disagreed with. All mighty leader that he was, he didn't 8.2 Benjamin Netanyahu and co, he knew the party is public property (the people's thing) not his. Wheh he decided to do his own thing, he quit and created his own party Kadima.

Haven't I advised Ni John to go form his Fru Ndiist party here. You may choose among three names - Mukete's Chairman Don Finish (CDF), Terribobs Chairman Democratic Front (CDF) or my reversal of SDF to FDS (Fru Ndiists Determined to Stand).

You see Terribobs is generous with the word "DEMOCRATIC". But you may just have it after all history has it that it was the most autocratic puppet government's of eastern europe that made the loudest use of the word "democracy".

BenF

[BenB]

Oho, Watesih jumps out, cuts short his day of rest. How would I have expected you to have sound siesta when Terribobs is taking on you all ways, when the battle is so hard for Klem and FeliAtanghaGeorgeTangie? Nice to have around, guy. It keeps us warm to have you all around. I pray Terribobs doesn’t spot you around. You know he likes you very much. You are his man.

[magprince]

Sorry to say this but let me say it, hope we all know profs like asonganyi who don't need to be address without respect is very fondamental in bring up intelectuals in the country is now been corrected by unintellectuals. Where are we driving to this is a true testimony to beleive that student and people should be very careful to incolcate ideas from a naked prof in the name of asonganyi. Cameroonians should be aware of angel whom we dont know .

[Sama Divine]

Dear Mr. Fru Ndi,

I think in politics each vote counts, therefore, a party which lose it's members should not think only of the human resources it has lost, but also of the votes. Surely, individuals leaving often carry along some sympathisers, culminating votes being lost. One vote can put Biya off the helm of power.

In my observation, the SDF cares very less about the number of votes it is losing as a result of the conflit plaguing it. It gives the general impression that, they have given up unsitting Biya, rather they spend time trying to defend, their actions. Politics as i said is a game of numbers. I haven't heard any policy, speach by John Fru Ndi for a longtime now, i haven't heard him canvassing for more militants. Pa, elections are due soon, instead of trying to defend yourself and defame your opponents, lets go out for a full campaign to gain the support of militants even those who have developed some apathy in the party.

I have read the post online for sometime now. I don't know if you are the one sending these people to come defend the party. I think they should spend all the energy they are using here to convince more people to join us to liberate Cameroon. They spend more time insulting themselves and insulting people, that should not be our focus now.

If you have given up let us know, so that we can move ahead through another means. If you have done so then you have let a lot of people down. Asonganyi, Ngwasiri, Ben Muna may no longer be resourceful to the party, or even party members, but in the end, if votes really count, then we need their votes. No vote is useless in politics.

yours,
Sama Divine

[Feli]

Atangha,
Do not let people who can not stand debates distract you from telling them the facts. I came to this forum to expose Mukete's fabrications but there is some young useless fellow who has been begging me to debate with him to no avail. When he realised I was not interested in his low-level rambling, he resorted to a primitive style of trying to associate me to you or to Hon. Mbah Ndam's secretary. Well, this does not disturb me but only helps me differentiate trash from intellectually- stimulating discourse.
Mukete has however been very disappointing. He does not show up again. I am suspecting he accompanied Nfon Mukete to their Yaounde congress to thank Biya for his endless largesse and to have his lips(or may be fingers) re-oiled.
Sama Divine, I really see with you. We need the votes.That is why the NEC would start doing what it does best - touring and meeting the people - immediately after the shadow cabinet is introduced.

[BenB]

FeliAtanghaGeorgeTangie, YOU DON FINISH YA SEF!

For the first time I will use a nasty adjective on someone on this forum: you're a very DULL man. You don't even know how to disguise. And that's what happens to people who undertake evil missions.

Follow my explanation and see how:

1.) You pretend you're Feli and you're in Europe. You give the impression of close contact with your "Danish Journalist" to deceive easy preys that you're in Denmark. But from reading your true expression of yourself, everyone can see that you're physically present and personally involved with COMMERCIAL WING activities like the planned "NEC" tour. That is understandable for BAD Ndam's private secretary. You may say infotech (IT) can give you access to all that information in a flash, but you know, truly speaking, that you've betrayed yourself by over running your mouth.

2.) Ahead of the conventions, you were naturally sent on BAD Ndam's missions to see how things were going in Bamenda. That's why you wrote on May 22, "Dear Readers!
I was up in Bamenda to feel the heat of convention. Things are on course; today's NEC's meeting will throw more light on last-minutes developments, like the refusal of the SDF on the National Day not marching by the Governor in Yaounde. Posted by: Atangha | Monday, 22 May 2006 at 07:51 AM". Massa, who but you, FeliAtanghaGeorgeTangie at the National Assembly has posted that kind of information here? Just see for yourself.

3.) I'm always anxious to read from you because from your insider vantage position (BAD Ndam's private secretary) you give inside information. To be honest with you, I love the inside information you lay bare here for public consumption.

I so love it because, that's what is lacking here. We hear more emotional rantings than based-on-fact comments. There you stand out because through you, anyone call tell the feeling of frustatration running around BAD Ndam and the rest of the COMMERCIAL ACTIVISTS. My friend, you betraty them big time!

So how was your "trip to Switzerland" for the funeral of your agent there? How did you use that ticket which rich wona withheld from poor Ngwasiri's evacuation, hoping he'd die and thus leave you some breathing space?

Waiting for your next betrayal.

BenF

[BenB]

BEFORE WE GOT HERE: A Series on the Buildup to Ni John's Downfall

Why I Weep for Asonganyi (I)
(Posted Tuesday, 23 May 2006)

For more on Asonganyi prior to the split, go to http://www.postnewsline.com/2006/05/why_cpdm_is_gre.html

They had to go for Asonganyi’s head, those whose game plan he was going to obstruct. You here them already trying to explain why they are doctoring lists of candidates for appointment by Ni John after he would have been declared re-elected as Chairman.

They’ve similarly already doctored lists of delegates who should “vote” in the convention.

Now, you’ll begin to understand why they wanted to kill Asonganyi. Poor fellow. And now you'll see how serious we are when we make noise about the need for an independent electoral commission and computerization of voters’ lists.

You see that man Tazoacha Asonganyi? He isn’t only thick-skinned literally. He is thick-skinned by character and has a big heart. He is a man of character. As secretary general of the SDF he knew he was the heart of the party. Just as the National Advisory Council (NAC) is the custodian of the party’s ideals, values and objectives as ORIGINALLY conceived, the secretary general is the memory, monitor and standard bearer of the party.

As book-keeper of the party, Asonganyi knew that it was his responsibility to keep the party on track. He did that. For over 12 years, he kept his nose deep inside the SDF’s documents, understanding them and implementing them on a daily bases.

Amid the rough times the party was going through, Asonganyi handled the books and kept order within the SDF in a dignified way that maintained the party afloat and helped it weather storms.

Very thoughtful, calculative and discreet, Asonganyi observed and understood the depth of the problem of the party. Without ruffling hairs, he made his point and without raising his voice he defended his point.

With that he could keep his cool and weather many storms and where others chickened out easily, Asonganyi’s thick skin kept him resistant and “immune”.

With his discreet approach to politics, he succeeded to negotiate the much heralded reconciliation forum for the party in September 2004 that brought useful human capital and so strengthened the party and gave it an "honourable" performance - though defeated in the presidential election - even after many Cameroonians would normally have sanctioned the SDF for breaking up the Coalition.

You can’t find any better qualities than ASONGANYI's for secretary general of a party like the SDF. But we hated him for upholding values, because those values shame us. So we wanted him out. Now we have him gone. We can already see the trouble staring us and there is no Asonganyi to come to the rescue.

I’ll be back.

BenF

Posted by: BenB | Tuesday, 23 May 2006 at 12:26 AM

For more on Asonganyi prior to the split, go to http://www.postnewsline.com/2006/05/why_cpdm_is_gre.html

[BenB]

BEFORE WE GOT HERE: A Series on the Buildup to Ni John's Downfall

Why I Understand Ngwasiri (I)
(Posted Monday, 22 May 2006)

For more on Asonganyi prior to the split, go to http://www.postnewsline.com/2006/05/comment-17540335

You need to see your project being messed up. Somehow you’ve had one in life. Just any kind of project. Not necessarily a huge one like the SDF or anything in the public view.
You’ve entrusted it to someone. He does well. He moves the project to heights you never expected. The project is breaking grounds. Seeing the unexpected success, you sometimes wish you were the drum major in place of the one you had confided the project to.

But you know yourself. You know that drum major is not your station in life. So you mind your business. You know that in life people just have to play their roles. You remember the Biblical Moses and note that Aaron was Moses’ chosen spokesman because Moses being a stammerer could not communicate. Each played their assigned roles. Good and fine thus far.

Yet you won’t let Aaron do the wrong thing even if he was endeared to the people and had won their confidence. You (Moses) know that the mission is yours and you are the custodian. The people see Aaron because he speaks to them, but the words Aaron speaks are your words.

Now, if you observe that Aaron’s dealings on your behalf are no longer straight; if you notice that some unscrupulous people have infiltrated the ranks, won Aaron’s ear and are giving him bad advice, would you clap for them or whip them? We all know Moses’ anger when, upon returning with the Ten Commandments, he found some evil people had induced Aaron to accept idol worship.

Like Moses, faced with such a nauseating outcome, you’ll certainly take your responsibilities as custodian of the project and undertake what may look like crazy radical measures to put the project back on rails. Usually these measures look like they can kill the project but you mean well, the project is yours and you only mean to reorient it.

If anyone is hurt in the process of your reorientation; if for some reason Aaron cannot detach himself from bad company that infiltrated the ranks, Aaron and co only have themselves to blame for any short-term or long-term consequences.

And you know, of course, that such a battle is not easy. But you’re set for it. For the sake of the project. And you know many will not understand, in the short run.

I’ll be back.

BenF

Posted by: BenB | Monday, 22 May 2006 at 12:32 AM

For more on Ngwasiri prior to the split, go to http://www.postnewsline.com/2006/05/comment-17540335

[BenB]

Didn't we see it coming? Who is to blame for Ni John's downfall. We can see from the flashback series here: one on Asonganyi, the other on Ngwasiri.

[Klemenceau]

BenB

Don't try to let readers feel they can only understand what others write through you. I made myself clear in my posting. You guys say Fru Ndi is no longer popular and that he has hijacked the SDF. You claim Cameroonians no longer trust Fru Ndi, yet you keep on running behind him. If the SDF has been hijacked by Fru Ndi as you said, and you gang masters Ben Muna, Ngwasiri and the rest have become angels, it will be good for them to go and form a new party. With their purported popularity, they will surely pull the crowd.
Hope I have made myself clear to you Mr. BenB.
Shalom
Klemenceau

[Vally]

Watesih,
Let's get the facts right and stop distorting them.
I was in Melen after the first session of the convention to see Atangha who i now know was never in yaounde but purporting to be there.He failed to meet me for a drink since he wanted to know if i was in yaounde.Boy i put my mouth where my head is i am not a noise maker.

After, the congress hall was shot even though we payed Cfa 1.5 million frs,we moved to the sdf secretatriat to continue,with the demised of Deboule,and the strong voice to get his killers we meet in there and had our convention.Prof Asonganyi i said came there and i met him that was it,i never said he attended the convention.But even if he did what is wrong in that.There is no rule as to what constitute a convention and it must not hold for three day, must it?We did what was necessary and came out with binding resolutions that is killing fru ndi today.Can he speak?Of course the yaounde convention destroyed him.Is he not the one runing from one court to the next stoping Muna from using the party logo and others?If there was no convention,where is Muna getting is authority from?Why is he having press conferences left and right?Meeting with embassy officials,please grow up.

The good thing is we choosed those we wanted move the sdf forward,under Muna's leadership.

If prof Asonganyi wants to join any party of his choice that's up to him,afterall, he told fru ndi point blank that he was eating wih Biya what happened they removed him from their sdf.Since the professor is talented, beleived me, all must be begging the genuis to join them.That up to him.If he wants to join the authentic sdf we desperately need him,he is more than welcome.

Watesih, let's not deceived ourselves we will loose the sdf if it becomes too NW.The party needs national following for the future,we need all cameroonians irrespective of their origin.

Read,the postnewsline for february to refresh your memory.Prof Asonganyi never wanted to consfiticate sdf property.When Tebo was send to go and take over party property from the prof,he refused.He ask sdf hierachy to put the decision on an sdf letter headed paper and a copy of the minutes.When the sdf wanted to used force as always, he used the court to get his way before the handing over.The man is no thief even though Fru ndi and others did all to pain him black after the fall out.Good things don't hide.

Watesih,even though you are fru ndi's disciple speak the truth.

To some of us from the NW who spend some reasonable time following the party,it is not easy to be the SG of the sdf for 12 years democratically.This guy from the SW did just that,he should have been the rightful sucessor of fru ndi,unfortunately, fru ndi wants to die as chair.

We should learn to praised good work.Prof Asonganyi was exceptional,since he left the sdf the party is mouthless that vacancy is difficult to fill.Not to talk of the illiterate hand picking his SG.

If you have been SG for a party in 12 years what other portfolio will sooth you other than the chair?

Vally
England.

[Watesih]

Vally, the Son of England,
You know as I do that I`m my best when i actually put people with dubious designs like you in a fix ,and Cameroonians can see how you aimlessly trying to go on the defensive.The
first thing that showsyou as somebody without a sense of direction ,is that you got stuck to a bar at the wrong moment.This was the time deliberations were supposed to be holding at the conference centre,but you thought it the opportuned moment to have a drink with Atangha,whom you know always has a sense of direction.Did you go out there on a safari?
The second point has to do with the fact that you show complete lack of mastery of how events unfolded.Does it suffice to pay the caution of 1.5 million to secure the Conference centre knowing fully well that on the Assistant Prefect for Yaounde 2
placed a ban on this idea of a convention as early as March 31st 2006?
Vally just listen to what you want the world to read from you,"With the demise of Djiboule,and the strong voice to get his killers,we met inside there an had our convention".Boy,boy! This is a secretariat supposedly under seige from thugs,and a militant lying dead infront of it,but your master Muna shows no remorse,but tip-toed around pretending to hold a convention.Mention must be made of the fact that the day the SDf was launched,the forces of disorder shot six people after Fru Ndi had made his speech,and the Party successfully launched,or else the launching would have been postponed.A leader must show his human side.You can`t bring in thugs from Mfoundi to clash with SDF militants ,and when a militant is killed,you stand on his body ,and pretend to hold a convention.
Vally ,you say Prof.Asonganyi came to the venue of the convention ,and yet he did not attend.You mean his sole aim of coming there was to meet you? How comes it that he is now calling a Convention he did not attend and knows little about its contours a
"Renaissance"?
Vally the only son of England,thank you for finally bringing you foolhardy to the attention of the international community.
Hear you,"There`s no rule as to what constitutes a convention,it must not necessarily hold for three days,should it?"
I see why you were more carried away about laptops,because you were completely groping in darkness.Sir,a convention is programmed,
with well codified and binding resolutions
expected at the end of insightful debates,
brainstorming,familialisation,elections.It must spread its agenda across a number of days ,to give room for brainstorming,
campaigning,accreditations,behind the scene negotiations ,and what have you.Sir England,
a convention is not a political rally,where you will tell people that Fru Ndi is an illiterate ,and the next day you are crossing the threshold into Le Messager offices for a courtesy call.I`m happy you know Muna is giving thousand press conferences.Of course the reason is that he is diffident ,and he wants to be seen and heard at all cause.So instaed of inviting journalists,he is the one forcing courtesy calls on them.
You know as i do that it is Ngwasiri who started dragging the SDF to court,until he was disgraced over and over.Muna knows that the case pending in the Mfoundi court is along the same line as the others Ngwasiri lost,so that is why he is dying to see to it that the media paints the SDF black,so the authorities can be taken in ,and hand the SDF over to him.
Vally i`m surprised you say if Prof. Asonganyi wants to join the party of his choice,thats up to him.Does it mean he has no sense of direction? Is that why you met him in Yaounde,to direct his idea of "original SDf" to your "Yaounde Renaissance"? Asonganyi is finished man! If he doesn`t talk about Fru Ndi ,no body will know him.Vally stop weeping up regional and factional sentiments.Evariste Fopoussi,Sani Alhadji,Adama Power have proven their militancy in the SDF.They are not from the NW.Finally vally,if Prof. Asonganyi had to find a way of handing over party property
through the courts,then he really has all the right to be wishing doom for the SDF ,from the Mfoundi courts.

[Fritzane Kiki Hong Kong]

Klemanceau,Watesih,Feli,Atanga,

Please for the sake of respect always use the title 'Professor' infront of Prof. Asonghanyi's name.Why are you guys always egoistic and baised when someone exposes your 'Almighty' god Fru?It's a pity that you guys still drag us back to the 'old school' politics of the 90's.This is a new era and you guys should face it or leave it that Fru Ndi has failed in many key situations which has been the main source of the pain and pangs the party,the heirarchy,supporters and militants are undergoing now.

I will advise you to leave sentiments aside and scrutinise our learned Profs' expanciation and comparison between the CPSU and the present SDF with keen attention.When he relate Fru's mismanagement of conflicts and the danger and disaster caused by this,when he says; "....The havoc, which Fru Ndi has caused,can only be a moment in the destiny of the Original SDF"
Go through our dear Prof's elaboration,enumeration and comparison keenly oncemore this time with a free and clear conscience,unbiased and no sentimentality attached,then tell me if there is anything wrong in his exposee.

Gone are those days when militants were fooled and placated with Fru's 'pidgin' English in rallies.Today with the modern politics,where militants can make a choice between two uncompromising issue and come out with their personal jugsement,decision and stance,I don't think the Chairman can lull them so easily with his dimishing popularity within and without the party.However,we know there are some few exceptions of those bootlickers who stoop too low for favour,affiliation or allegiance to Fru.They are therefore blind to the viciousness,lack of vision,selfishness,and dictatorship of their life-crowned chairman.They will join their demi-god to his last doom that await him soon.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

[BenB]

Vally, if you answer that Watesih man, then you're just being wicked. Leave the man alone. I see tears on every word he has posted here. He comes across so deflated. Time for poom don reach but na shame dem di fear.

In one of our villages they say "no put head for tok for man wey e di cry". The words of a weeping man/woman, are often incoherent lamentations. They just drop like words from someone with cerebral malaria. To analyse them or respond to them would be like having Mbella Sonne Dipoko or Bate Besong doing literary appreciation of a play or poem written by a nonentity like me, instead of the other way round.

Vally, leave you da Watesih so. Na cry-die tok. People who speak and wail, they themselves don't often remember they said those words. When the mourning period is over, quotes from their lamentations are often raised during fun time. Leave you da Pa Watesih so. To answer him will be an over-kill.

And don't let them fool you. FeliAtangha GeorgeTangie was in Yaounde that May 26. We have said here time and time again why he couldn't come to khati-khati at Polytech. They had just finished THAT ACTION and had all gone underground because gendarmes were looking around for the savages. "Atangha" only went to Bamenda afterwards after accomplishing THAT MISSION.

BenF

[Feli]

Kiki,
I am not a hypocrite when it comes to free speech. That is why I respect Prof. Asonganyi's view eventhough SDF militants know he got it all wrong. He got it all wrong because the whole process was faulted from the on-set.
For a convention to hold, it has to be legally permitted. The Yaounde convention wasn't.
For a convention to be valid, it has to have a quorum, the Yaounde Convention hadn't any.Till today, no one can give figures of the delegates and the electoral districts to which they belong.The truth is that less than 50 people attended the 2 hour meeting. Evidence? The 55-man NEC installed during the meeting had more than 10 vacancies. The other statutory committees were filled by diasporans who sent proxies like Brice Nithcheu, Emmanuel Kemta and Albert Pokam. There were no elections whatsoever. There was no accreditation, so any person passing-by could pose as an SDF militant and could gain a seat in their NEC. There were no committees to deliberate on constitutional amendments like the famous discard of the dreaded Art. 8.2. There was no plenary session to debate it and there were no delegates to move it for an adoption. Moreover, in a group led by people who are desperate to get press attention, there was no media coverage. All the press reported about was the violence that erupted. Nothing was said of delegates - the people- who make the essence of a convention. If Fru Ndi and the true SDF would abide to such unconstitutionality, the same group of persons would have been quick to say that the Chairman is a first-class dictator.
But in Bamenda, it was the reverse. The accreditation committee registered 1795 delegates in accordance to Section 12.3 of the SDF constitution which states that ``The Quorum of the National convention shall be two-thirds of all delegates, provided that not less than two-thirds of all the provinces are represented´´. Expecting 1888 delegates, the Convention thus attained Rule 4.2 of the Standing Orders by scoring 95.074 %. In Bamenda, we heard reports from the outgoing NEC and their proposals to improve on the functioning of the party. The treasury, the auditors, the external relations committee, the Committee for political education and training, the Councils committee all gave their reports which were adopted by the convention sitting in-camera. The social policy of the SDF termed 'The social deconstruction of Cameroon- The making of a new society now and beyond 2020' was also debated and adopted. Delegates always had the right to voice their opinion to every item on the agenda. When elections came, every one went through the process, beginning from the chairman. No one was treated exceptionally. That is what SDF means by Power to the People and EQUAL opportunity.
You see, all of these procedures require energy, nerves and steadfastness. But in a party that believes in democracy and the rule of law, the constitution and the Standing Orders especially during the Convention must be respected to the word. Otherwise, there will be nothing to distinguish it from handclapper-meetings like the CPDM congresses etc.
It is for this reason that I said Prof. Asonganyi can not support unconstitutionality, a thing he claimed to always fight against, and call it a Renaissance. It shows double-standard which is rife amongst Cameroon's political class. Thank God, the SDF I know would never be part of that - double-standards!!!

[Watesih]

Fritzane,
I`m back and i`m bringing all of you out of the dreamy state you find yourselves in.For a week now ,i haven`t heard from the fiction writer,whereas he went to CNN when i was on vacation asking me to come back .Now he has gone into hiding.When we want to write we sit here and input the stuff into the computer,not take off two weeks to come up with a jumble about Fru Ndi.
Fritzane,we will always put Prof. in front of the Prof`s name ,at least nobody can take that away from him,and we also know the stuff he is made of.But when it comes to politics,he is a small potato,and should keep his mouth shut,because he is going from one gamble to another.
Fritzane ,you see your co-disciple BenteribobsFB is now huddling all the other disciples of doom ,asking them to shut up.
That is a good thing,because he has finally discovered that lies telling and pidgin will only go a long way to undress him in public.He always announced here that he was mourning even when there was nothing to mourn about,and he also summoned doom to befall the SDf.Now he wants to cede his place of a professional mourner forcefully to us.Lie! Since he is a professional mourner,his eyes can`t see well when he writes,so yesterday he wrote that DengXiaoPing ,the Chinese leader who past away a long time ago died few months ago.All this because he wants to impress people that he can analyse and compare the situation in the SDF with the Chinese communists ,just as Prof. Asonganyi erroneously did with the Russian ones.
Fritzane talking about the Prof`s premise
about the CPSU in Russia,the comparison is completely out of the way.One, Cameroon is not a communist state.Two Cameroon was not split into distinctive states ,where each of them might have been afraid to carry over the unpopular policies of the CPSU.
Thirdly ,you can`t compare a communist party that had been in power with the SDF that is still an opposition party,and whose policies have not been tried nationally.The difference is that in Cameroon people are doing everything to suppress the SDF,because of its appeal and the fact that those who have crippled the country know they will be brought to book when the SDF takes over,whereas in Russia the CPSU had been in power for a long time and its unpopularity was now consumed.Get this clear Fritzane.The most important thing is the situation of the two parties,not the
Mfoundi court or the Russian constitutional court.What are courts? Did Andze Tsoungui
not say that Laws are made by men ,and can be broken at will.A skeletal type of a thing can be set up anytime to dispense the type of justice that is good for the Cpdm.
Fritzane,you can heed to BenteribobsFB`s
call to leave me alone,because this debate is more than you people.You people should rather wait for the fiction writer to tell the world that Fru Ndi is an illiterate just like him,but that he is 80% more intelligent.

[BenB]

FeliAtanghaGeorgeTangie,

Even if the Yaounde convention held on a tree or in a toilet for just one minute, the essence is that the people are happy and have embraced it because it now represents their hopes. Suffering people don't know the length or colour of a convention. They know it's purpose. In fact, to our suffering masses, the less colourful but purposeful the convention, the better.

Giving you the true duration of the convention now would be irrelevant. It wasn't two hours, It wasn't even six hours. However, did you expect delegates to spend three days going through the luxury of singing songs of praise in the name of a covention when you and your death squad battalion were wielding weapons of mass destruction? You expected delegates to spend time there singing:-

Esss-Diiii-eeeF
Fighting for our freedom
In the name of Ni John Fru Ndi
We shall conquer

My friend, Yaounde was the second lauching of the SDF, The Renaisance. You know that if you want corn to grow, you plant it, it rots in the soil then it germinates and blooms.

SDF be don rotten for wona hand. Yaounde was it's second launching and since wona decide to join Biya's forces against democracy, wona do exactly de ting wey Biya be do we on the first May 26 (1990).

So, thanks to your shortsightedness, miscaculation and savagery, the SDF was launched in blood spilled by enemies of free expression (Biya's) and relaunched in blood spilled by enemies of free expression (Ni John's) including YOU.

You think the strength of the SDF through these years was based on its holding of conventions in state of the art locations? Then say that the SDF was never born because Biya's CPDM was born in an all-colourful Congress Hall while the SDF was born at a motor park after a hastily delivered speech.

Which name you even use sef for dis last lamentation? Ok Feli. I never even know the difference. The stuff is just the same. Only names change. Next time write as Atangha and shower praises on Feli for the wonderful betrayals he makes on this forum.

Aa salot ooh, Watesih the cry-die boy.

BenF

[BenB]

BEFORE WE GOT HERE: A Series on the Buildup to Ni John's Downfall

Why I Pity Ben Muna (II)
(Posted Thursday, 18 May 2006)

For more on Muna prior to the split, go to
http://www.postnewsline.com/2006/05/do_authorises_s.html

You can’t have more pity for anyone than Ben Muna. He is his father’s son and is proud of it. He is the son of S.T. Muna whom many of us here love to hate. In fact, Muna-bashing is a fun sport for a lot of us here.

And the Muna legacy is a subject many don’t bother debating about. We believe the conclusion is not debatable. Good luck to those of us who would have done better in his circumstances.

When an Anglophone think-tank began holding risky meetings in the late 1980s that eventually led to the creation of the SDF, one of them was a most improbable Ben Muna. Improbable because about that time, S.T. was
quitting the stage (he left parliament in 1988).

As you understand the way it goes in Cameroon and elsewhere, political baobabs produce political dynasties. Father (or relative) goes, son (or relative) steps in. Political sons are often given special privileges where their father reigned.

Examples abound. But just a few here: the Hayatous, the Njoyas, the Mbeles (Belo Mbele, Yves Mbele), the Endeleys, the Ngus (Niba, Anomah), etc.

With S.T. quitting in the late 80s, all was about set for Ben Muna to quietly, and without stress, step into ST’s shoes. Ben, then over 40, was ripe. In his own right, Ben had had a brilliant legal career that
began in West Cameroon as a state prosecutor (so he had a been a government man). Later in private practice, he rose to Bar Council Chairman. And so now, the sky was the limit.

Added to that, daddy was quitting. So the family’s political mantle would fall on someone, most likely Ben, the one then showing an inclination towards politics. But foolish boy. He had his own plans. He
went conspiring with a group of other bad boys to cause trouble, to torpedo the same boat his father helped steady in stormy waters.

Biya has had to wait over 15 years for Ben’s small sister Ama Tutu, to mature and fill the family’s “vacancy” in government from December 2004.

Besides being one of those treading the risky path of creating a political party whose fate was uncertain, Ben Muna later braved it, using his influential position as head of the Bar, to do about the most risky thing at the time: he defended a group of people (the Yondo Black group that
included Albert Mukong), facing trial for treason – for planning to overthrow the government or simply to form another political party.

Ben Muna went on to use his strong voice as Bar Chairman to make serious pronouncements that in no small way pushed the Biya regime to the wall to cave in to multipartyism and other reforms. He lost many, if not all, of his friends in high places and ran the Bar into crisis with pro-Biya lawyers raising hell.

So what might have been wrong with Ben Muna? Why would a political prince, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, whose time had come to just walk up to the stool vacated by his father, prefer to tread the path
of uncertainty? Wasn’t he his father’s son?

I’ll be back.

BenF

Posted by: BenB | Thursday, 18 May 2006 at 05:44 PM

For more on Muna prior to the split, go to
http://www.postnewsline.com/2006/05/do_authorises_s.html

[Klemenceau]

BenB, you should stop running your mouth in this forum. You got precisely nothing to write here that is why you either copy and paste old write ups about how you MOURN for Mr. A or how you ADMIRE Mr. C
You keep on dreaming the Ben Muna and gand members are out to help suffering Cameroonians. Do you think it is only through the SDF that suffering Cameroonians can be helped? If Muna was a good man with a conscience, he would have helped the people who are suffering around him. He instead spends money to cause confusion in the SDF because he wants to become the chairman of the party.
BenB why are you always quick to tell readers here that others are crying or they have been defeated? Is it the only way to console yourself in the face of the heat? No one doubts the fact that you are the chief mourner and Ben Muna's internet campaign manager here. Until now you have not been able to come out with resolutions of your masters two hours meeting that took place in Yaoundé.
You have become so shout sighted that you keep on calling Feli as Atangha. I am sure you are doing this because you are also regarded as Teribobs. I respond to anyone following the name that person uses. I can only say someone is another when I have hard evidence. Please BenB keep away all those names calling and focus on the issues concerning your master Ben Muna and his mission to corrupt every Cameroonian.
I want to tell you that you should keep on mourning because very soon the rolling ball will stop and many like you will run into hiding.
Shalom
Klemenceau

[Fon]

No amount of distortion of facts,no amount of copying and pasting,of mourning and blackmail will change their status.

For us to succeed we must face the truth and facts.If we want to quote those who make up the SDF,that is the pillars of the Party, we must first think of NEC (old and present),NAC (old and new) parliamentarians,Mayors,provincial chairpersons,Divisional chairpersons and district cahairpersons.

To face facts and reality,how many of the above category of persons that constitute the core of the SDF support what Prof.Asonganyi shamelessly termed "renaissance".He will surely continue to leak his wounds.

Some observers have noted that,although the disgruntled faction led by Muna is insignificant,they should be looked after because they will go away with some votes since in politics every single vote is important;that is true,but on the other hand in an attempt to get some particular votes,the SDF risks extinction and therefore it is more safer for the party to do without people of vicious ill will.

In democracy,majority champions. what bits my imagination is the fact that those who have many things to hide still try to argue that the majority should surrender to the minority.Is there any one who demur the fact that eventhough Fru Ndi has his weaknesses as it is common of any leader,majority of SDF millitants are still for him? If the majority still supports him as oppose to "renaissance", which new theory in democracy do we want to use to force the majority surrender to the minority? If someone wants to argue that the majority is not for Fru Ndi,let the person state with facts drawn from the core of the SDF as I have mentioned above.

Yes,the theory of exceptional cases states that the majority is not always necessarily right;if the minority group that is agitating thinks that they are right and have bright ideas which are being blocked from realisation by the Majority, why can´t they abandon the group and constitute a new one to move on without interference? Some here will shameless say that the majority can also abandon the group to those agitating,I don´t know from where they draw their inspiration to put up this kind of childish argument.In a real situation,if two persons share a house,and one of them is not satisfied the way things are moving,and the other has no problem; will the disgruntled person leave the house to seek peace somewhere or does he insist on the person who has no problem to go and look for another house?

These persons who keep changing names from "authentic" to "renaissance" and vice versa are certainly not sure of themselves and want to feed on and destroyed what others have taking pains to build.

Some have tried to relate what Sharon did in a way that will satisfy their desire,forgeting that it is difficult to force a river to flow up stream. A.Sharon felt that he had bright ideas which were supported by the masses,but which the Lekud party was a stumbling block,he decided to form the Kadima.He did not seek to impose on the majority within the Lekud party that refused him a go ahead.In the same light,I expected Muna and co to act in this manner if they think they have a following.

Our selfish interest should not render our brains numbed and expose our shortsightedness to the international community.

[Watesih]

BenteribobsFb,
This is the worst you could do for Muna.Your shortsightedness makes you beleive that since he is Daddy`s son,
and born into a Dynasty ,he can talk for Cameroon.We have got many of those dynasties in Cameroon,and all of them are geared towards one thing;the total destruction of the country.You can name them: the Hayatous,the Muketes,the Njoyas,
the Fochives,the Fotsos.Why don`t you ask yourself the question that with all the many guys in these dynasties born with silver spoons in their mouths,the country continues to bleed .You think it suffices to tell people that someone was born with a silver spoon in his mouth?By the way this is an text that had been published in the 1990`s about Ben Muna,and Cameroonians had read and reread it.So you want to continue with your cut and paste work?When you tried to put up a small debate,it was more than you,and you started calling on Vally to abandon everything and and run away.What Cameroonians want to know about Muna is what he has in store for them ,not that he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.This is really a ridiculous piece of publicity to indulge yourself in.You neither have the ideas ,nor the language to debate,so you switch back to cutting and pasting.We had read that piece over and and over about Muna sir,may be when you had never known that newspapers existed,so you not producing any scoop here.Stop living in a fool`s paradise!

[Roki of Shanghai]

Now the lords are back, some mouthy Ben Muna addicts have vamoosed.The few left can only copy and paste some old outdated articles on Ben, Ngwasiri's foot stool.
BenB, you keep singing Ben Muna's song,carrying him shoulder high, portraying him as an angel, a saint.Question for you. If Ben Muna was born with a silver spoon in his mouth,having done all you copy and paste here, what was so difficult for this prince who has sooooo much for the people to form his own party?
Ni John Fru has his flaws same as Muna.Muna is no saint.Fru Ndi is still the man whose name rings a bell to every old woman and man in the most remote parts of Cameroon,Furu-Awa,Kouseri,Anyajua,Chuaku you name the rest.
One thing people fail to understand is the fact that everything has changed.In the 90s, mobile phones, laptops,the internet was just a dream in minds but today, we have access to all these things.People's mentalities have changed but one thing remains certain.The policies,the raison d'etre behind the struggle to rescue Cameroon from the hands of the blood thirsty, corrupt regime of Biya hasn't changed.I bet, if SDF had Ben Muna as chairman in the 90s, Cameroon would either have been worse than Sudan,Rwanda or Uganda or he would have sold that dream to the Biya regime in exchange for a muscle of meat,a tattered small office and a car. It is shear ignorance and stupidity that will cause someone of Ben Muna's calibre to develope a selfish heart of stone and try to put asunder what the people have through the years in his absence put together with their sweat and blood.
Results:he'll fall like a bag of potatoes and his brainless followers Asonganyi the fake prophet,Mukete,BenB,Terribob and others will disappear into thin air or switch topics or better still, start copying and pasting old, outdated articles about their fallen lord. A falling tree will not leave its branches standing.

I hope that BenB,Mukete and co can spare us the trouble and tell us something we don't already know.The so much dreaded Feli and myself have reminded you so many times to put forward the evidences.Till date, we haven't had one to show for all the noise.

Watesih and others are back from the break and i can actually see BenB and co trembling and drowning in their tears from the write-ups.I hope they have seen a clear cut distinction between Roki and Akoson now.It's only stupidity that makes them to leave the object and chase shadows.Shows how narrow minded, weak and foolish you are.

I'll still leave by challenging Mukete and his puppets to bring forth the billions of evidences they have promised and claimed to have in their possession.

Mukete said he was going to watch Fru Ndi in church as he has become his god.I'm still waiting for the dirty politics from church.Bring it forth.

Truth pressed to earth shall rise again.

[BenB]

Na only vex dis? E be lie say wona go beat me if you wona see me oooh.

So after giving you Axis fellows good advise to take a retreat and hold an email coordination meeting to plan your next strategies, this is what I get in return?

How wona wicked me so? OK, aa beg.Maybe wona want me to apologise? OK I'm sorry for speaking the truth wey wona hate to hear.

Take it easy guys. You misled Ni John with songs of praise and you're sharing in his DOOM. Well, you have a chance to consider your ways. Time still dey.

BenF

[BenB]

SUNDAY SCHOOL COMING

By the way, Rt Fasting Rev Dr Akoson the Rock (Roki) of Shangai, shouldn't we begin planning for the next Sunday School? Let me have your ideas. Should we have a full service or just songs of praise or just hymns? OK, I'll reach you through that Shanghai number. I called the London number and they said no one by your name ever lived there.

BenF

[BenB]

NO RESOLUTIONS FROM YDE CONVENTION?

They just behave like kids in Kindergatten. One of them says something. It makes sense or not. They all follow in chorus: "Da da da da."

Now their new chorus is resolutions of the Yaounde convention. Everyday here they talk about Yaounde scrapping their famous 8.2. How did they know if not from the resolutions of the Yaounde convention?

Dem head no correct or weti?

BenF

[BenB]

Akoson the Rock (Roki) of Shangai School of Econs,

You're working hard to regain admission into the Axis of Propaganda. It looks like they have 8.2ed you from their group. You know dem with 8.2 nooh?

They're angry that you abandoned them in the heat of the battle. When we unmasked you as being in China but impersonating London, you took so much shame, went underground for three weeks and only resurfaced with your subtle admission that you're in Shanghai, China.

They had advised you to change your name and continue the battle because they badly needed your hysterical, though ineffective fire-power. You didn't. You abandoned them. So they created other names to swell their numbers. Now that the battle is lost and they are just counting their wounded and dead, now you resurface with a new name, a thing they had advised you to do a long time ago.

Now that you've adopted a new name, they have gone back to their old names. The new names didn't deliver except when they used the new names to praise their flat comments for being the wisest words ever spoken since King Solomon.

Maybe you should write an open apology to them and beg for re-admission. Or you could use the Axis hotline email. Poor you.

BenF

[Teribobs]

Klemenceau,
Benb has proven beyong reasonable doubt that Feli is Atangha George Tangie. I am sure you are still marvelling at how intelligent Benb can be. Atangha cannot hide. He will have to account for all his slanders. He is being used and cannot escape coz that is where he is getting his garri.

Fon, have you recovered from the bruises you obtained when you stirred the Manyu bee-hive? So you want the Mayors and parliamentarians who sponsored the Yaounde convention to come out and receive 8.2? As time goes on you will know them. Who are those you are referring to as majority? Are you talking of those still acting under JFN's spell? for your information, sense is getting into their heads and they are quitting in thousands. Fon, i have adviced you to stick to physics. How can you ask such a dull question? Should I abandon my rightful house because I disagree with an intruder? You are disgracing me. Put your good brains to use.

Watesih,
so you are happy thinking that Vally can follow Benb's advice so that you can breathe? I guess you have forgotten who Vally is. You give me the impression you need to visit jamot. at least i can know BAD Ndam's position through his henchboy Feli Atangha George Tangie even though he does it in horrible english. Your case is worse. You just go on to write whatever comes to your mind. I guess your brain needs an adjustment coz your write-ups are so incoherent, inconsistent, nonsensical and all the negatives you can think of. from that we can know your level.

Akoson the Roki, you are duller than Fon. Why should Ben Muna leave what he risked everything to create? Ask your hijackers JFN, BAD NDAM et al to leave our party alone if they do not want to return to the original democratic principles that were set at the beginning. BTW, nothing good can come out of shanghai and that is why I just flash through Akoson's rumbles.

[mukete]

USING THE NAKEDNESS OF VERY OLD WOMEN (TAKUMBENGS) AS POLITICAL WEAPON: A CURSE ON THE NORTH WEST PROVINCE AND BAMENDA.

Cameroon has gone on record as one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and as one of the countries with the highest rate of prostitution and AIDS in the world. Cameroon is also respected as one of the powerhouses of soccer in the world. Politically, though, Cameroon is the only country in the world where the nakedness of very old women, known as Takumbengs has been used by the opposition to fight the government. This current research has proven, beyond any doubts whatsoever, that by exposing the nakedness of very old women to the public in Bamenda – something completely against African culture and against the tradition of the entire North West province – the leader of the perpetrators of this crime against humanity and against the feminine gender brought a CURSE on the entire North West province and Bamenda.

In almost all the continents of the world, children and the elderly have been used as political weapons during wars and political confrontations. But the present research discovered that it is only in Cameroon and specifically in Bamenda in the North West province that the nakedness of very old women has ever been used as a political weapon. This weapon was invented and used by Ni John Fru Ndi (Leader of Cameroon’s main opposition party, the Social Democratic Front – SDF) to bring pressure on the CPDM government of Cameroon. It is world record that it is only in Bamenda that this anti-feminine, disrespectful, and anti-cultural weapon has ever been used. We toured the whole world, meeting and discussing with political leaders and human rights and feminine organizations of ALL the continents of the world, but we found NO other place – we mean NO THER PLACE- on earth where this crime against women and humanity has ever been practiced. No researcher found it in any other place, and the probability that it will ever happen elsewhere is zero. It is unique to Bamenda and Ni John Fru Ndi!

Most of the victims of this Ni John Fru Ndi-initiated and sponsored crime, against old women and North West culture and tradition, were illiterate great grand-mother above 90 years of age, and who had attained menopause and could barely move. Before engaging themselves in such a CURSE, these ignorant mothers had been assembled and forced into believing that their nakedness was the only instrument left to make their son, Ni John Fru Ndi, become the president of Cameroon. They were therefore thought the different positions they were to take while NAKED, depending on the situations and circumstances. They could be lying down and carrying their two legs into the air, or standing up and lifting one leg into the air, or bending down and showing their back-side to the public or standing and opening their legs at 180 degree. Although a painful and demanding exercise for these helpless women, these ignorant mothers had no other alternatives than to perform what was apparently needed to make the first son of the North West become the president of Cameroon.

In Cameroon, whenever a mad woman is seen moving around naked, the first thing women do is to look for a piece of cloth to cover her nakedness. As if mad women also understand the danger involved in exposing their nakedness in public, ALL mad women in Cameroon make sure they cover their nakedness. Traditionally, in the North West province, if an old woman should show you her nakedness, especially in public, then it is treated as a very serious matter and a cleansing exercise must be performed to remove the resulting CURSE. In the North West province still, when a passer-by coincidentally sees an old woman taking a bath in the stream, the passer-by has to run away with his eyes closed as if a lion were chasing him. Again in the North West province, if an old woman threatens to expose her nakedness to you, you have to run away and beg the elderly to mediate. If you see the waste-slip of an old woman falling to the ground, you immediately have to turn to the opposite direction – with your eyes closed.

Ni John Fru Ndi and his gang of anti-tradition accomplices did not only force these old women into exposing their nakedness to Biya’s army of occupation and to the public, but they, too, were happy observers of this sacred nakedness in all the different positions. Most of these naked women were actually surrounding the residence of Ni John Fru Ndi as he was under “House protection” following the 1992 presidential elections. We gathered that while Ni John Fru Ndi was in the house eating and having shelter and medical attention, these poor ignorant women were left in the cold and heat outside, with no shelter, no medical attention and inadequate feeding. During the day, Ni John Fru Ndi was found hanging on the window opposite which some of these old naked mothers were exhibiting their nakedness. Consequently Ni John Fru Ndi, too, saw the sacred nakedness, although the dark glasses gave the women a different impression.

We gathered from concerned traditional rulers, Fons, Chindas and Quifons in the North West province that by forcing these old women to do what they did, the gods of the North West province are all angry, and that this action against the culture of the North West province has brought a CURSE on the entire province and especially on Bamenda. Unfortunately most of these keepers of culture and tradition of the North West province cannot, at least for now, come forward and make this sad fact public, because they are afraid that they would be linked to the CPDM government or that they would be termed CPDM sponsored agents. They ALL however maintained that unless the entire North West province and especially Bamenda undergoes a public traditional cleansing exercise then the entire region would have no rest. They are all of the conviction that until the gods are pleased to forget this unfortunate curse that Ni John Fru Ndi has brought on the land, then the North West province will see no good. The gods are still weeping; especially whenever one of these misused old women dies.

We are compiling the requests made by the gods of the land, as presented by the custodians of the land- the Fons, Chiefs, the Chindas, the Quifons, etc. We shall keep the public informed on what must be done to relieve the entire region from the curse that Ni John Fru Ndi and his gang of exploiters have brought on the land.

Stay tuned.

Mukete

[mukete]

I once made a solemn promise to readers that I MUST provide facts to show how Ni John Fru Ndi had brought CURSE upon the entire North West province and Bamenda. When I made that promise, it was everybody that was expecting my research findings, with people like Klamenceau, Feli, Knganjo, Watesih, Fon Lawrence, Mbu B., Aaron Nyangkwe, Akoson and their other names forcing and challenging me to bring forward the facts without delay.

I have just published these facts in my previous posting, and I want readers to keep aside politics and to forget their camps before digesting the facts. Those who want to distort facts should please

1) Tell us of any similar usage of very old women's naked ness for political reasons- any where in the world. We are not talking of old women, but the NAKEDNESS of very old women.

2) Tell us of any other politician who has used the nakedness of very old women to game fame. We are not talking of old women, but the NAKEDNESS of very old women.

3) If exposing the nakedness of very old women to the public is against the culture and tradition of the north west province.

I will be coming back.

mukete

[Feli]

Mukete,
I had been waiting for this. What took you so long?
Ni John Fru Ndi did not invent Takumbengs, Jujus or Kwifons. These were things that existed before the launching of the SDF and even before the birth of Ni John Fru Ndi. Likewise, Ni John Fru Ndi never wrote the bible but before all rallies and all meetings he chairs, there are opening prayers calling for God's protection.
If you indeed do research, then you would have gathered from Fon Abumbi III of Bafut that Takumbeng women parade in the early hours of the morning in the case of death in the Bafut palace or before major festivities like the Bafut annual Cultural day. So all of these things fundamentally existed before the SDF.
When the SDF was launched, different groups of persons brought in their various practices in to politics. The clergy attended rallies and held the opening prayers, for example Rev. Joe Set Aji Mvo and the Imam of Bamenda. Choirs sang and Jujus danced for general animation.Trade unions joined to concert their actions. Because the SDF stood for social democracy, every one was welcomed to its platform whether the party shared the individual's personal believes or not. Thus, the Takumbeng mothers who believed that moving naked would force gendarmes and the armed forces to withdraw were not rejected by the party. I repeat, a social democratic party could and can not afford to be elitist or selective in its membership.Equally, no one was forced by the leadership of the party to join the struggle. No one was asked to march with or without garments against his or her will. The lazy Mukete tries hard to give the impression that Ni John Fru Ndi asked old mothers to strip. Rubbish. On the 29th of December 1992, Ni John Fru Ndi was still under house arrest when about 1000 women above the age of 70 gathered at Ntarinkon motor park and took upon themselves to put an end to the state of emergency. They divided themselves into 2 groups. The first group marched towards Ni John Fru Ndi's compound from the main entrance. The other group came from Parc National. They met in front the main gate and sat down, their bodies covered in sweet potatoe leaves. The gendarmes on duty were taken aback and did not what to do. Colonel Pong was called upon. Within 2 hours the governor , the provincial chief of security were shuttling between Ntarinkon and station. Two days later, Biya uplifted the State of emergency and House arrest. Their action was therefore a success. They did not take permission from anyone. Not from Ni John Fru Ndi, not from Biya, not from Ben Muna.
So to say Ni John Fru Ndi asked anybody to perform nudity is a very big LIE. Short and simple. This once small depicts Mukete's frustration in trying to implicate Ni John Fru Ndi in what ever way possible.
Another LIE (which is typical of Mukete anyway) is that the old women had no food or medical attention. Everyone in Bamenda at that time knew that the only place where food was abundant was Ntarinkon.The population standing around Fru Ndi's compound were fed at least thrice a day and Dr. Awasom was in-charge of the medical problems of the mothers. They were so satisfied with his services that till today when these mothers have the chance to visit the Bamenda general Hospital, they still ask for that doctor with "bear-bear for i mop".
Mukete, your research was clearly very poorly done. Its theme was vague and its conclusion half-baked. In short, it was very poor reading both in content and aim.

[mukete]

Feli,

Please reason withyour senses. I never said that Ni John Fru Ndi invented the Takumbengs. I said that he "invented the use of the NAKEDNESS OF TAKUMBENGS AS A POLITICAL WEAPONS."

Do not make yourself a fool here, even as you try to distort facts, and try answer the questions raised. I still have more to bring here.

Mukete

[Feli]

Mukete,
You are not going to distract me. Bring the evidence implicating Ni John Fru Ndi and the SDF rather than fabricating and lying every time you touch your letter pads. You promised us tonnes of these months ago!!!

[Feli]

Why have you not blamed Ni John Fru Ndi for praying before political rallies?

[mukete]

Feli,

Churches, traditional dance groups, pastors, choirs etc may have been involved in political activities, but the case of USING THE NAKEDNESS OF OLD WOMEN AS A POLITICAL WEAPON IS UNIQUE TO THE SDF AND THE NORTH WEST PROVINCE. Nowhere in the world has this been ever practiced.

Compared to all other countries and political parties the only activity that was specifically involved with the SDF and not others, is the use of the Nakedness - I MEAN NAKEDNESS - of very old women as political women - I MEAN POLITICAL WEAPON. It may have been used before for celebrating deaths, etc, but this was never as a political weapon against the party in power.

Do not mix up things. Stay tuned for another research. You people have not yet seen anything.

mukete

[BenB]

LESSON FROM FON’s HUMILITY

Let’s all learn from Fon’s humility when he ran himself into mishap on another corridor on this forum. He ran his mouth and was assailed by an array of blasting, but like a gentleman, with at least a little good sense still in his head unlike most of here, he apologized.

Follow Fon’s mishap in story “Manyu University To Be Created Soon” at this link: http://www.postnewsline.com/2006/07/manyu_universit.html#comment-20215862

Now this is how the drama ran. First, the “unguarded” by Fon Lawrence (Lawson):

“If the idea of the university in Tali I,is the effort of Manyu indigens abroad,then good and fine.But if the idea of the unversity is to serve national interest,then Manyu is a wrong choice”

Posted by: Fon | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 08:07 AM

Then a few of the wild reactions to Fon’s comments:

“Fon,
Why do some people like you always find ways to bring disorder and secterianism in any possible iniative which comes up. What are your justifications that Manyu is a wrong place to set up this University? Sometimes it's better to stay quiet than commenting on every article if the intension is to bring in disorder.
Nothing personal against you though. Have a nice time my dear friend.”

Posted by: Vally Bessong | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 09:21 AM

“Fon,
So where is the place you have in mind that could have been ideal for the University?… This is pure jealousy… Do not expose your naivity and stupidity here. Continue your SDF Intifada. Afterall, that is the only way you can show Loyalty to Fru Ndi and the SDF for supplying Dorkies during you Asylum Claim. Donot forget that, the German government can withdraw it at anytime if they are fed proper and true information about you.
So learn to know where you put your feet. Bozo!”

Posted by: Kinetics - M I T | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 11:06 AM

“Fon,
I asked you to give me your justifications and reasons why Manyu is a wrong place and you can't provide any, only for you to come back and say, "there are other areas that are more qualified to start off the university on a more successful level." What is your criteria for more qualified? I don't think we are on the same footing to have a discussion on such an important issue. Go your way and I won't respond to you again, it's a waste of precious time.”

Posted by: Vally Bessong | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 11:21 AM

“Mr Fon,
I am not from Manyu, but I think you are been very tribalistic. I cannot understand how as an Anglophone you would even make such comments. I think your comments only serve to increase the divide between Southern Cameroonians… So please shut ur mouth and stop poisoning peoples minds.”

Posted by: Ted, Baltimore | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 03:01 PM

“Fon,
I wonder your reasoning. Most prominent universities were open in rural areas, before urbanisation took place in their vicinities. Where are you from? Do you just like debating for the sake of it?… I think your blind support for the SDF dictatorship is affecting your reasoning faculty…”

Posted by: Ngu Pius | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 03:49 PM

Clearly bruised and flattened, Fon had the good sense to make amends. His comment had exposed how much damage bad SDF COMMERCIAL ACTIVISM and being an Axis apologist have done to his state of mind.

I've said here that cry-die tok no different from cerebral malaria tok. They only realize later that they said the wrong thing. See Fon’s apology which I urge us all to emulate:

"Kinetics - M I T and others,
From your reactions,you feel threatened that I am against Manyu and decided to go wild and completely out of controll;
To show that my comment was not bias and intended to hurt particular feelings,I withdraw it."

Posted by: Fon | Monday, 24 July 2006 at 05:16 PM

All clap for Fon’s good example. And let’s all follow in his footsteps.

BenF

[Feli]

Mukete,
It seems as if you read but you do not comprehend. What I said was that Takumbengs, Jujus, Rev. pastors all used and are still using the spirituality they believe in as weapons be it for political or social redemption. No one forced them!Also, no one prevented them from doing such practices. You falsely give the impression that Ni John Fru Ndi asked those mothers to strip so that he could make political capital out of their nudity. I repeat, rubbish!!!
If nudity is part of their ritual, then it is their right to practice it during whatever ceremony. And they did so in the 90s without asking for the Chairman's permission.They did not even care whether the SDF and its chairman believed in their rituals. They have been doing so out of deep individual conviction that is why even on the 26th of may 2006, a group of about 400 mothers marched past the grand-stand where Ni John Fru Ndi was sitting. To show respect towards these mothers, the grand-stand immediately stood up as one and saluted them with a very heavy applause.
I realise you are still struggling by all means to link any weird trait to Fru Ndi. Keep on struggling. We shall be waiting, as well for the tonnes of evidence you have been promising for several months now.

[Watesih]

BenteribobsFb,
Why do you continue to let dogs bark everytime they see you.Few months ago you called on a peace loving Cameroonian like the person who brought Democracy to Cameroon,Fru Ndi to go over to Yaounde to storm Ngwasiri`s convention,
thereby being the originator and bird of ill-omen of all what your master Ben Muna was going to do to Djiboule later.Today you are trying to jump on the bandwagon of Fon`s humility.How do you really want Cameroonians to see you? Three days ago you told a big lie to the whole world that the Chinese leader Dengxiaoping passed on few months ago.Did you retract all these statements as Fon did? Do you want to pick a peck from somebody`s eye knowing fully well how uncouth your behaviour is? I warned you before,as far as i am here,there will be no safe haven for you,if you continue to jump around like an overcharged electron.Remember,"If you want to trade with the wing,you should have wings".

[Feli]

Mukete,
I told you that you are a very poor researcher, if at all you research on anything. For all of the things you've brought to the attention of this forum reveal serious insanity in your imagination.
It is wrong to say that nudity has been used only in the North West province for political protest. In Germany during the Nacktradtour, German nude bikers use nakedness to protest and promote their way of life politically. On the other hand, Robert A. Heinlein suggests in Tunnel in the Sky that among scouts, the sense of anxiety and vulnerability created by complete nudity (besides body paint) heightens the scout's senses, thus enhancing his or her ability to avoid detection.
In Julius Caesar's Commentarii de Bello Gallico, Celts were reported to charge into battle completely in the nude, only carrying shields and swords. Sometimes the soldiers wore no clothing but were covered in war paint, a custom that allegedly gave the Picts their name.
This practice was maintained up until at least the 18th century in Highland Scotland. Highland soldiers routinely came to battle fully dressed, however coming onto the field, they would discard their heavy woolen plaids. This made them much more agile, and also protected their plaids from damage.

So Mr. Mukete, when it comes to research, you are still found wanting.Nakedness in political combat did not begin in the North West!

[Klemenceau]

BenB

You are just trying to let Fon have an argument with you. But Fon will not be tempted to respond to you childish ranting. You better turn around copy and paste interviews from news papers with Ben Muna or you continue mourning.
Shalom
Klemenceau

[Vally]

Benb,Taribobs,
History will not spare me if i do not correct watesih,i have to.

Watesih,
You will never learn and be realistic if i do not answer you.Dictator fru ndi has marroned the brain of some of his supporters,i am sure calabar accult is seriously working.

Watesih,so after doing all for the administration to refused us the congress hall,you thought we were going to walk home.I never left the Uk for the convention to return empty handed.

Under those difficult circumstances created by colonel Chi Ngafor(who is now drinking cold water garri with no sugar)and his mob,send by sdf hierachy,we had to moved the sdf forward and that we did.

Our bureau was elected that is today creating mayhelm to Dictator Fru ndi.Muna is getting the attention as leader of Authentic sdf,he's been doing a wounderful job so far,watch this space watesih.......
Remember i once said i would never have wanted Muna to be sdf chair,Fru ndi has made him.So far he's not done badly.

Prof Asonganyi,has the right to militate where he wants.Have you guys not dismissed him?Do you want him to begg Fru ndi with all his talent?You should be a joker then.
Read my comments long last year,months before the conventions''I said i will return to become a CNU militant than an sdf militant under dictator fru ndi''.That's why i spend my monies to travel to yaounde for the convention.I am happy we are progressing time will prove me right.

I am not being sentimental as to the NW,SW drumming issues.Though from the NW i am a very realistic political beast.I don't carry my sentiments to outer egos.

Fru ndi must not die as chair of the sdf as Biya is going to die in the cpdm.The sdf was created in the NW,lots of cameroonains bought the idea and we now have a national party.We should not kill their ambitions of moving up the leadership role if they can prove their worth.That's my cry Watesih.
Fru ndi should not be killing the party yet we blame others,we should learn and practice honesty,rather than lie so fru ndi should die as chair.
Honesty would help and make us more acceptable rather than lie to deceived ourselves.

Watesih,since i left cameroon for the Uk my political concept and thoughts have changed.Remember i used to be a fru ndi fanatic,but with my new found exposure, i have seriously learned that if you have to lead,give others the oppurtunity to prove their worth by allowing them too to lead.

Watesih you and me, seem to have lots of differences with regards the way forward with the sdf.

Vally
England.

[mukete]

Feli,

Do you think that readers are fools? Why are you writing so much on a research you consider nonsense? Why are you struggling to disprove a research you describe as in the following conclusion:

"Mukete, your research was clearly very poorly done. Its theme was vague and its conclusion half-baked. In short, it was very poor reading both in content and aim."

Why are you exposing yourself?

We are NOT talking about resourceful, young, energetic and ambitious people who VOLUNTARILY (ON THEIR OWN) MOVED NAKED for political reasons. WE ARE TALKING OF ILLITERATE, WEAK, IGNORANT AND VERY OLD WOMEN (above 90 years of age) WHO WERE USED AND DECEIVED INTO EXPOSING THEIR NAKEDNESS SO AS TO MAKE SPECIFIC INVIDUALS (NOT THE OLD WOMEN THEMSELVES) TO GAIN POLITICAL FAME.

Do not waste your time citing cases of people who personally took the decision to do what they did, and who did it for their own personal or collective good.

You must have realized that your gang members are praying for this SENSITIVE TRUTH to die down fast; reasons why they do not want to touch it. You think Klamenceau, Watesih, Fon Lawrence, and the others have not read this research work. Even if someone like Watesih needs days to write, read and re-read his response or even take leave to do so, the fact that they are all pretending not to have seen this piece of research work is very disturbing. Klamenceau has been calling on me on a daily basis to tell this forum how Ni John Fru Ndi brought curse on people.

If you continue to distort facts, then I will be forced to bring in the graphical illustrations that I am keeping on this shameful issues. I hope when that comes you wouldn't accuse me of exposing the "private life" of people. You may be minimizing the facts available!

mukete

[mukete]

USING THE NAKEDNESS OF VERY OLD WOMEN (TAKUMBENGS) AS POLITICAL WEAPON: A CURSE ON THE NORTH WEST PROVINCE AND BAMENDA.

Cameroon has gone on record as one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and as one of the countries with the highest rate of prostitution and AIDS in the world. Cameroon is also respected as one of the powerhouses of soccer in the world. Politically, though, Cameroon is the only country in the world where the nakedness of very old women, known as Takumbengs has been used by the opposition to fight the government. This current research has proven, beyond any doubts whatsoever, that by exposing the nakedness of very old women to the public in Bamenda – something completely against African culture and against the tradition of the entire North West province – the leader of the perpetrators of this crime against humanity and against the feminine gender brought a CURSE on the entire North West province and Bamenda.

In almost all the continents of the world, children and the elderly have been used as political weapons during wars and political confrontations. But the present research discovered that it is only in Cameroon and specifically in Bamenda in the North West province that the nakedness of very old women has ever been used as a political weapon. This weapon was invented and used by Ni John Fru Ndi (Leader of Cameroon’s main opposition party, the Social Democratic Front – SDF) to bring pressure on the CPDM government of Cameroon. It is world record that it is only in Bamenda that this anti-feminine, disrespectful, and anti-cultural weapon has ever been used. We toured the whole world, meeting and discussing with political leaders and human rights and feminine organizations of ALL the continents of the world, but we found NO other place – we mean NO THER PLACE- on earth where this crime against women and humanity has ever been practiced. No researcher found it in any other place, and the probability that it will ever happen elsewhere is zero. It is unique to Bamenda and Ni John Fru Ndi!

Most of the victims of this Ni John Fru Ndi-initiated and sponsored crime, against old women and North West culture and tradition, were illiterate great grand-mother above 90 years of age, and who had attained menopause and could barely move. Before engaging themselves in such a CURSE, these ignorant mothers had been assembled and forced into believing that their nakedness was the only instrument left to make their son, Ni John Fru Ndi, become the president of Cameroon. They were therefore thought the different positions they were to take while NAKED, depending on the situations and circumstances. They could be lying down and carrying their two legs into the air, or standing up and lifting one leg into the air, or bending down and showing their back-side to the public or standing and opening their legs at 180 degree. Although a painful and demanding exercise for these helpless women, these ignorant mothers had no other alternatives than to perform what was apparently needed to make the first son of the North West become the president of Cameroon.

In Cameroon, whenever a mad woman is seen moving around naked, the first thing women do is to look for a piece of cloth to cover her nakedness. As if mad women also understand the danger involved in exposing their nakedness in public, ALL mad women in Cameroon make sure they cover their nakedness. Traditionally, in the North West province, if an old woman should show you her nakedness, especially in public, then it is treated as a very serious matter and a cleansing exercise must be performed to remove the resulting CURSE. In the North West province still, when a passer-by coincidentally sees an old woman taking a bath in the stream, the passer-by has to run away with his eyes closed as if a lion were chasing him. Again in the North West province, if an old woman threatens to expose her nakedness to you, you have to run away and beg the elderly to mediate. If you see the waste-slip of an old woman falling to the ground, you immediately have to turn to the opposite direction – with your eyes closed.

Ni John Fru Ndi and his gang of anti-tradition accomplices did not only force these old women into exposing their nakedness to Biya’s army of occupation and to the public, but they, too, were happy observers of this sacred nakedness in all the different positions. Most of these naked women were actually surrounding the residence of Ni John Fru Ndi as he was under “House protection” following the 1992 presidential elections. We gathered that while Ni John Fru Ndi was in the house eating and having shelter and medical attention, these poor ignorant women were left in the cold and heat outside, with no shelter, no medical attention and inadequate feeding. During the day, Ni John Fru Ndi was found hanging on the window opposite which some of these old naked mothers were exhibiting their nakedness. Consequently Ni John Fru Ndi, too, saw the sacred nakedness, although the dark glasses gave the women a different impression.

We gathered from concerned traditional rulers, Fons, Chindas and Quifons in the North West province that by forcing these old women to do what they did, the gods of the North West province are all angry, and that this action against the culture of the North West province has brought a CURSE on the entire province and especially on Bamenda. Unfortunately most of these keepers of culture and tradition of the North West province cannot, at least for now, come forward and make this sad fact public, because they are afraid that they would be linked to the CPDM government or that they would be termed CPDM sponsored agents. They ALL however maintained that unless the entire North West province and especially Bamenda undergoes a public traditional cleansing exercise then the entire region would have no rest. They are all of the conviction that until the gods are pleased to forget this unfortunate curse that Ni John Fru Ndi has brought on the land, then the North West province will see no good. The gods are still weeping; especially whenever one of these misused old women dies.

We are compiling the requests made by the gods of the land, as presented by the custodians of the land- the Fons, Chiefs, the Chindas, the Quifons, etc. We shall keep the public informed on what must be done to relieve the entire region from the curse that Ni John Fru Ndi and his gang of exploiters have brought on the land.

Stay tuned.

Mukete

[Klemenceau]

Can someone tell this forum how someone who claims to be living in Cameroon should be posting write ups here at 3a.m Cameroon time? When do such people sleep if really they are in Cameroon? At first they use to write calculating the time that people are awake in Cameroon but they have suddenly forgotten to calculate this time around since the issues in this forum have become too hot for them to bear. They are now jumping to defend their fiction without thinking to conceal where they are hiding. I have always said here that you can pretend for a while but not forever. The time in Cameroon has suddenly changed and we can now be awake like people in some parts of the U.S., the U.K, China, South Korea, Hong Kong and you name them. You have not yet seen anything. You are suffering because of the lies you have been posting here against Fru Ndi. You thought you had a strong conscience but you are beginning to realize that your conscience is your judge and it. You would have peace until you apologize in this forum. You can pretend that you are ok; I hope you keep pride aside and tell readers here that you are sorry for telling lies.

Teribobs

Stop wasting your time that Atangha is Feli. These two guys are different and I am sure you know deep in you that they are not the same persons. I think you and your man BenB keep talking about them when you fall short of what to write to criticize Fru Ndi. Don't worry, you can as well copy and paste as BenB has been doing. It is the best way to let us know that you still have hopes in your master Ben Muna. If there is one thing I admire in you guys, it is the courage you have to stand behind Ben Muna despite the fact that you know he is a dubious, cunning and amateur politician. I don't know what is behind your courage but I guess money "nkap" is doing the trick on you guys.
Let some of you keep on fumbling and deceiving yourselves. You should continue spending sleepless nights because of Fru Ndi and the SDF. I pray none of you should develop high blood pressure when Ben Muna, Ngwasiri, Asonganyi and co will go into hiding or go running behind Fru Ndi and the SDF to resurrect their political lives.
Shalom
Klemenceau

[Klemenceau]

Correction
You thought you had a strong conscience but you are beginning to realize that your conscience is your judge. You won't have peace until you apologize in this forum.
Shalom
Klemenceau

[Fon]

Please follow the links below to see how a hollow person can disgrace himself on a public forum.

Peace Nudist Picture - Picture of Nude Women Peace Protesters: A group of California women strip off their clothes and spell out 'PEACE' with their naked bodies in protest of America's plans for war against Iraq.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blwomenforpeace2.htm

Read more on how Naked women have been used/used their naked bodies as a weapon

http://www.sarai.net/journal/05_pdf/12/02_isaac.pdf

Hope the shameless "Researcher" will get into his shells

[BenB]

Empty lass California or not, does that mean Takumbeng empty lass nova bring baaa luck? That's the question.

[Feli]

Mukete,
Whether you shout and climb mount Fako, that will not deter me. The statement ''...WE ARE TALKING OF ILLITERATE, WEAK, IGNORANT AND VERY OLD WOMEN (above 90 years of age) WHO WERE USED AND DECEIVED INTO EXPOSING THEIR NAKEDNESS SO AS TO MAKE SPECIFIC INVIDUALS (NOT THE OLD WOMEN THEMSELVES) TO GAIN POLITICAL FAME'' is false in content.
It is false because no one forced or asked anybody to demonstrate in nudity.The demonstrators came on their own, they had their own leaders within them. They had their own pace. So nobody was used or deceived. I said if your claim was to hold, then the clergy, jujus would be correct to assert same.
When the Coordination of political parties decided in june 1991 on the Yaounde II plan of action, its resolution read as follows
''...Calls on the population and Cameroonians of goodwill...'' This request was answered by all and sundry, including the intelligent and strong as well as the weak and illiterate. Some were not asked to come in garments because they went to school while others who were illiterate were asked to come naked. That is why I said your thinking is shallow. And with this shallow thinking, readers of this thread can easily make out who is making a fool of his or herself here.
When I read this statement 'If you continue to distort facts, then I will be forced to bring in the graphical illustrations that I am keeping on this shameful issues. I hope when that comes you wouldn't accuse me of exposing the "private life" of people. You may be minimizing the facts available!' I shouted Halleluya! Bring the facts. Don't be afraid of anyone. I know you are a LIAR and FABRICATOR but I did not know until today that you are a coward. Bring the facts ,I shall fight for your freedom of speech if any one attempts to stop you in any way.

[Klemenceau]

As usual BenB has shown that he and his gang members have been writing fiction. Hear him
"Empty lass California or not, does that mean Takumbeng empty lass nova bring baaa luck? That's the question."
You and your gang members will always shy away from issues when they are more than you. So nudity can only bring bad luck when it concerns Fru Ndi and the SDF? Shameless hypocrites will always react the way you have done?
Only the blind will take to your vain and childish attempts to blackmail Fru Ndi and the SDF.
BenB if you don't have what to copy and paste again just hold your peace for a while for the Postnewsline to post new news headline about Fru Ndi and the SDF so that you can jump up in a wildcat attempt to blackmail Fru Ndi and cover your master Ben Muna's hypocrisy.

Shalom
Klemenceau

[mukete]

WE SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL SET US FREE.

Only fools will believe people like Fon Lawrence, Feli, Klamenceau and others. Was it a mere coincidence that so many illiterate old women came together and were matching down the streets to the house of Ni John Fru Ndi? How did they get the news that they were to assemble and match? How did they individually get to the meeting points? Who addressed them and told them where they were to position and what they were to do? How did they know the place they were to meet? Who thought them the various positions to take so as to show their sacred things according to circumstances?

Is Fon Lawrence merely trying to justify the shameful act by the mere fact that it has been practiced elsewhere? Should we misuse the sacred nakedness of very old ignorant women simply because the same shameful exercise had been performed elsewhere? Does he accept the fact that using the nakedness of these old women for political gains is something the North West tradition and culture wouldn't tolerate? Does he dispute the many examples I have cited to demonstrate that such nakedness is sacred? Would he, Fon Lawrence accept that his great grand mother do same only activity to project an individual's political position or vision? When these ignorant women were performing this shameful act, the only problem they had in head was the fact that a son of the North West province, Ni John Fru Ndi, was being arrested so that he does not become the president of Cameroon. The women were of the belief that Ni John Fru Ndi won the elections and so must be the president of the whole country.

When I see Fon Lawrence cutting websites and pasting them here as "Exhibit A" to support the fact that his great grand mother walked naked to project political interests, I find in him a man who can support killers as he has been doing. To make his childish game actually childish, I would bring fort his first most important "Exhibit A" (without even accessing it):

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blwomenforpeace2.htm

Just from the headline itself, the word "politicalhumor" tells us the idea behind the publication of what is contained inside. We are not talking of humor here! We are not here to make people laugh. The misusing of the nakedness of very old women is NOT humor. It is a serious matter.

Also Feli should understand that during special ocassions in the North West province like death celebrations, when old women come out, they do so at particular times of the day and only at particular places. Only people who are members of particular juju societies can see these women at such moments. Even pregnant women can not dare see them. Among the Winbum tribe in the North West province, if one coincidentally sees even members of the male juju society during special ocasions, then the person has to be cleansed traditionally.

The old Takumbeng women were used into exposing their nakedness in broad day light and in public, with everyone actually seeing their "sacred things." We can not be comparing the performance of naked Takumbeng women during traditional activities to circumstances where even foreigners and Biya's Army of occupation were actually seeing this nakedness - face to face. Remember, during tradition acrivities, when these women come out, it not every person in the village who is permitted to see their nakedness. How comes it that these women were forced into opening their sacred things to people foreign to the region and its tradition, and to those they consider killers of innocent people?

Now to show why North West women, the Quifons and ladies of North West origin have to be very angry with Ni John Fru Ndi, I would like to know Ni John Fru Ndi's reasons for using only the nakedness of old women for his liberation. Why were old men, too, not forced into also exposing their nakedness? If old women could voluntarily decide to expose their nakedness to the public, why could old men not do the same? Mr. Fon Lawrence, is it only old women who have been reported elsewhere to have used their nakedness as political weapons? During your Internet research did you not find situations wherein men also exposed their nakedness in other countries? Come on man!

In the North West province, men also have strong secret societies, that come out during special death celebrations. Where were these masculin societies when the old Takumbeng women were being forced into exposing their nakedness in public? What makes the nakedness of these women more powerful or influential than the nakedness of men? Were they special rays coming out of the nakedness of these women that could force president Paul Biya into reasoning? What makes the nakedness of women more accessible in this public disgrace? The cheapness of their nakedness? The cheapness and rejected nature of their "things"? The inferior position women hold in the society? The respect for men and their own "things"? Are the women of the North West province slaves to be used just anyhow while the men keep their pride? Where the women more sympathetic to the opposition than the men? If yes, is it the women benefiting today from all the sacrifices they made? Where is Mrs. M. Nyah who fought hard to see the SDF inplanted throughout the North West province? Now that Ni John Fru Ndi and the other men are eating large sums of money what do these poor Takumbeng mothers benefit from? Apart from young fresh educated and beautiful women like Anenbom Munjo who are privileged to be eating and dinning with Ni John Fru Ndi, where are these poor Takumbeng women today? Does Ni John Fru Ndi attend their funerals? Look man, I am trying to clease our house!

Please can these questions be answered! What are these male hypocrites trying to hide in this forum? How can they be making the North West women cheap? Why are Klamenceau, Fon Lawrence, Feli and others making a complete mockery of the North West woman? Why are they causing the North West ladies to be crying? Why are they minimizing the pride and plight of the North West woman? I think people like Klamenceau, Fon Lawrence and Feli are going to manipulate the North West women and their nakedness whenever they obtain positions of responsibilities. Personally I hold the "things" of old women very sacred and precious. We can not manipulate these things for political reasons.

Klamenceau have my word. People only apologize if they go wrong. People's conscience only judge them when they are guilty. NONE OF THESE REFERS TO ME. Curse be my patriotic responsibility if I even think of withdrawing a millionth of what I have written against your Ntarikon butcher of democracy. You should, instead, be calling on Ni John Fru Ndi to apologize for all the atrocities he has comnmitted.

Klamenceau and Fon are cowards and they seem to give the impression that they are afraid to call my harmless name. While Fon Lawrence is actually addressing his write up to me without the courage to call me name, Klamenceau also addresses a long sympathetic and appealing write up to me without calling my name only to CLEARLY addresses Terribo in the last section by using his own name.

If Klamenceau uses the Internet only where he attends cheap evening classes or does mean jobs abroad, then he should understand that today, there are individuals here in Cameroon having Internet connections at their private homes. These individuals use the Internet mostly in the night when less people are using it and when connection is easier. He should not be exposing his ignorance and acute primitivity here.

Stay tuned.

mukete

[Feli]

Mukete,
I shall not take you back to school to teach you how to read and comprehend a text written in plain and simple english.
I answered all of these questions already. NOBODY WAS FORCED by any one to use nudity as a form of political demonstration. When the SDF was launched, different groups of persons brought in their various practices in to politics. The clergy attended rallies and held the opening prayers, for example Rev. Joe Set Aji Mvo and the Imam of Bamenda. Choirs sang and Jujus danced for general animation.Trade unions joined to concert their actions. Because the SDF stood for social democracy, every one was welcomed to its platform whether the party shared the individual's personal believes or not. Thus, the Takumbeng mothers who believed that moving naked would force gendarmes and the armed forces to withdraw were not rejected by the party. I repeat, a social democratic party could and can not afford to be elitist or selective in its membership.Equally, no one was forced by the leadership of the party to join the struggle. No one was asked to march with or without garments against his or her will. The lazy Mukete tries hard to give the impression that Ni John Fru Ndi asked old mothers to strip. Rubbish. On the 29th of December 1992, Ni John Fru Ndi was still under house arrest when about 1000 women above the age of 70 gathered at Ntarinkon motor park and took upon themselves to put an end to the state of emergency. They divided themselves into 2 groups. The first group marched towards Ni John Fru Ndi's compound from the main entrance. The other group came from Parc National. They met in front the main gate and sat down, their bodies covered in sweet potatoe leaves. The gendarmes on duty were taken aback and did not what to do. Colonel Pong was called upon. Within 2 hours the governor , the provincial chief of security were shuttling between Ntarinkon and station. Two days later, Biya uplifted the State of emergency and House arrest. Their action was therefore a success. They did not take permission from anyone. Not from Ni John Fru Ndi, not from Biya, not from Ben Muna.
So to say Ni John Fru Ndi asked anybody to perform nudity is a very big LIE. Short and simple.

[Feli]

It amazes me that a paid spy like you Mukete does not know that the Chairpersons and the deputy chairpersons of the standing committees of the SDF (Shadow cabinet) have been named. You instead struggle to belabour a topic you are clearly incompetent to handle.
Briefly on the cabinet, of the 36 members sitting in 18 Committees,it has no one from Baforchu, Santa or Moghamo tribes. It comprises of 19 francophones and 17 anglophones. One can clearly see that effort was made to give it much competence, regional and gender balancing. I am certain Biya can learn from this.
If the Post does not publish the list soon, I shall try to type out the names later.

[Watesih]

Sir England,
I thought after having lived in a big Democracy like England ,you were inadvertently going to become intelligent,
but this will never be the case.JB Samba was very prophetic yesterday,when he brought to the notice of Cameroonians the fact that you and your masters are a wing of The Cameroon People`s Destructive movement.Vally you have finally confirmed this assertion openly.You write," I said i will return to become a CNU member ,than an SDF member .That`s why i spent my money to travel to Yaounde for the convention".
Thanks for this information vally.Another name for CNU is CPDM,and you have finally proven that you left England knowing exactly the job you were going to do in Yaounde.When you people eliminated Djiboule
,you went over to Melen that morning to drink away the scar ,and pretended to be waiting for Atangha.That is why you don`t even know what a convention stands for. Of course Vally,you people are really progressing in the CPDM! Don`t you see how your master Muna is a free man today ,after defying the government.Don`t you see how all of you from Asonganyi,Muna,Ngwasiri,
Vally,BenteribobsFB,Ntemfack Ofege, are all waiting for your courts in Yaounde to hand over the SDF to you people.
Vally,Sir England,your masters are going to clip your wings one of these days because you are too tackless when handling issues.Hear you,"Our elected bureau is today creating mayhem to Dictator Fru Ndi".
So this is the essence of your "BUREAU" ?
Cameroonians are dying under the weight of oppression,but people are telling us that they created a " BUREAU" to create mayhem to a single individual.BTW,Sir England,what
did you people create,a " BUREAU" ,or an
" AUTHENTIC SDF"? Please enlighten Cameroonians!
Vally,Sir England,the more you want to prove to BenteribobsFB that you don`t want to run away from me as he has asked you,the more i will pound your little brains out.I know your level!Vally ,you are absolutely right! You had never wanted Muna to be your leader,you wanted Jua.This is more the reason why you went out to Yaounde seeking for notice ,until Muna used you as one of his thugs that day.But because you did not really like such behaviour,you grudgingly left ,and prefered to drown yourself in alcohol in Melen.
Vally,sir England,you are seeking for cheap popularity from Southwesterners.If you really think the SDF should not be an affair of the NW,then what the hell have you been chewing your gums here about Ben Muna ,whom you say you have never really considered a leader.Is Ben Muna from the East Province? You have the impression that you are pulling wool over the eyes of the other Cameroonians ,by dying for Muna ,a northwesterner ,and pretending that the SDF should not be an affair of the Northwest.
Those who have small heads like you should not always try their hand at logic!Listen to you Vally,sir England," After doing everything for the Administration to refuse us the conference centre,you thought we were going to walk home"! How can KingGongs
like you people walk home without a pound of flesh? This is an implicit acceptance of your role in the violence you people perpetrated in Yaounde.I hope next time you are not going to twist facts.Somebody who doesn`t walk home when the Administration refuses him the Conference centre knows exactly what he counts on.Vally ,BenteribobsFB took to his heels and asked you to join him running away from me,but i`m going to catch up with him.There
is no safe haven for him here!

[Roki of Shanghai]

FELI Plssssssssssss,why do you waste your time with a mad man.As Mukete has rightly stated, we all read but we never reacted because there was nothing there to react about.WE ALL HAVE EYES AND WE SEE AS HE SPENDS HIS TIME WRITING NONSENSE,WE BROWSE THROUGH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S MADNESS OF ANOTHER LEVEL.
Feli, make good use of your time than argue with brainless freaks.

[Roki of Shanghai]

Watesih, you are a genius.That's a good way to seal their lips but fools never learn.

[Reader]

To tell readers that this or that contributor is not writing sense is a lie. No one has the right to ask others not to react. If people know that they wouldn't find anything good in what others write then why read their contributions in secret?Readers are collecting elements of truth in the ongoing debate and if we doubt anything we will ask. If we do not ask then we are learning from the revelations. Contributors should challenge facts point by point rather than telling us that there is no sense in certain contributions. Tell us what is nonsense, how it is nonsense, and how you can make sense out of it. We are not children. We urge ther two camps not to give up the important debate. We have to stand up to our convictions even when dealing with mad people. We can not allow someone to destroy our house simply because he is a mad man. If we do, then we are the mad ones. Reader

[BenB]

AXIS INSURGENTS EMBRACING, NOT REGRETTING CURSE

Even infant boys used to standby and watch. Yeeeh, iiissshhh! Infant boys, laughing, enjoying the show when the Takumbengs expose themselves at all angles and postions. And you know what? As the kids had a good time facing their curse, Ni John and co pointed at them saying, "Those are future freedom fighters." Imagine that. Imagine what Ni John and co considered grooming for future freedom fighters.

Mukete, don't you worry yourself about these Axis of Intifada Insurgents. Maybe they are defending abuse of the nakedness of the old Takumbeng women (their own great, great grand mothers) because they were among those who went close range, pretending they were maintaining order at demonstrations just to have a better view of the stuff when it was exposed.

It beats my imagination that anyone disgusted by the thought of what Mukete has demonstrated here would even utter a word in its defence. Clap for your good sense of taste, my Axis boys.

You see this is a characteristic of insurgents. They stand in the way of the progress of their opponnent, whoever they consider them to be. They're not seeking to gain anything. They know they've lost, but they want to destroy. If we can't have it, they won't have it. If FORCES OF GOOD INTENTION are going to have the SDF, betta we, COMMERCIAL ACTIVISTS DEFENCE FORCE (CDF again) spoil am one time, all all.

At least some insurgents somewhere are fighting and dying happily to draw international attention and sympathy to their plight against people occupying their land or whatever. These our own Axis Insurgents here are fighting just SAY MAKE DEM NO TAKE NI JOHN HE TING. And also to show Ni John they continue to be grateful for azi docky. That's all.

If dis ting were even left to Ni John now as we stand, what would he do with it, seeing how much of the Takumbeng curse is haunting them. Can't they see?

Take it easy Mukete. You got them. Na cry dem di cry so.

BenF

[Teribobs]

Watesih,
There is still enough space at Jamot. I wonder if level-headed guys on your camp like klemenceau bother to read the trash you put here. Do you even understand yourself? At least Feli Atangha George Tangie feeds us with news from his master BAD NDAM's desk.
BRB