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Friday, 25 August 2006

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Muki StoneHall

Your editorial is timely and the decision to introduce the registration of members is hailed.
We would not have hesitated to distance ourselves from THE POST and nail it as an accomplice to the suppressive regime in Cameroon had you not come forward with this explanation.
We thank you for your continuous effort to remain the voice of the voiceless and the eyes of the blind.We also hail your determination to encourage free speech void of slander.
More power to your elbows.

mukete

i agree, this is a good oppotunity to talibam fru ndi

BenB

Kudos for taking this measure.

We hope this solves the problem. And thanks for stopping just there because if you'd proceeded to censoring comments, that would expose you to editorial liability for some of our reckless comments here.

The law on online publication and blogging applicable in many western countries which apparently MinCom is trying to apply is such that the more you censor or edit your web page, the more the publisher is liable for libelous content by reckles contributors.

We hope this frustrates those who doubt even themselves and have adopted guerrilla tactics even online.

BenF

KAYSIBRIGHT

I applaud this move.At least it can bring about some seriousness and authenticity in what is contributed here.

Big Joe

This is a GIANT step taken by the post and the explanation is appreciated.

Ashwell Molaba

Thank you very much for this editorial decision. Finally, we have an explanation for the University of Buea story. Why this particular story brought about this editorial decision baffles me. I only read one comment that mentioned the name of a student who got a first class degree by giving sexual favours to the current registrar. Pardon my saying so but I have read worst stories about politicians in this forum. Unsubstantiated allegations have been tossed around in this forum. I guess the point I am trying to make is that this has come a little too late. And it smacks of some kind of picking and choosing issues on which to act. We can only speculate on the real reasons. Speculation being the fodder for conspiracy theories. The question is, what has The POST got to hide?

Akoson


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This New Innovation will ONLY SLIGHTLY reduce impersonation and JUNK postings...

Ah! Don't be fooled by the postnewsline.

Hear them:"...we have closed the comments section of the story about the forged certificates from University of Buea because many of the comments failed to address the allegations of serious academic crimes, and instead attempted to distract through unsubstantiated character attacks by anonymous writers. Anger is not an excuse for doing that. If A is a robber, he cannot refuse to answer for his misdeeds because B is a murderer. They should both answer..."

My question to them:

1. Has this forum ever respected the heading of an article?

2. Haven't we'd guys in the past PAINTING BLACK top political figures of the country...accusing them of homosexuality, occultist practices and calling them names such as aduterers withou proofs? What did we do?

3. Who do you guys wanna fool?

My second reaction is a question: How will this new innovation stop people from reacting MADLY below an article?

For people who've got two computers - they've the opportunity to create more accounts with different names however slow and boring.

Presenlty, the fake Mukete has already used the account name of the real Mukete. There're still problems ahead, I bet!

HOWEVER, THE MOVE IS APPLAUDABLE AND VERY WELCOME. I still insist that the postings which were deleted be put back. The reasons why they were deleted "doesn't hold water".

I rest my case.

Son Of Ako - still at Harvard.

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Feli

Dear Editors,
Ashwell raises a very important issue that makes some kind of selectiveness and favoritism come to light.
If the Post claims to be independent, then they should close ALL comment sections which bring ANY form of slander against any one, be it a politician, an academic or a clergy man. The same rules which apply to articles on UB should apply on articles about the SDF, CPDM, SCNC etc. You will fully agree with me that we can not frown at one slander here and then permit another a couple of pages further.
If Person A comes and describes what transpired during a NEC meeting, giving highly fictitious details and baseless allegations about the life of a political figure in every statement without being physically present and writing solely on the basis of fiction, then you and I should be honest enough to also qualify this habit as first-degree slander.
So Mr. Editors, I respect your fight for freedom of speech but I strongly ask you to ponder on this statement you made
"In the spirit of fairness, and ethical journalism, we cannot permit writings on these pages that accuse others of specific crimes without some kind of corroboration".
I would thus like you to uphold this spirit of fairness and ethical journalism in ALL aspects and areas of your website, not only when it concerns the University of Buea or when it touches your person!!!.

Teribobs

Forumites,
I have said before that Charly Ndi Chia has 'eaten soya'.

Feli/Atangha/George Tangeh/current Mukete/Reader/Kontchou,
you are partly and partially right. Why will you not defend your dead NEC?

Ma Mary

Post - thank you for having us as guests on your website.

People- lets say you are a habitual guest at somebody's house and habitually get drunk and piss in your pants and on the floor, just as I know a lot of you Camerounese alcoholics are always doing. Your host might choose to ignore for a while and clean your mess. One day, he just ups and kicks your ass and throws you out. Who are you to whine and complain? <> You juvies should get it into your heads, we are all guests here. Be decent.

Ma Mary

Do you remember when you juvenile cyberthugs decided to tear to pieces a certain SONARA engineer? The man had no phd according to you kids and you "proved" it. A little digging proved that the man did have a phd, and the statement attributed to him was likely the mistake of a cub reporter.

Politicians deserve and get a different standard worldwide. These are people who promise for a living but do not deliver most of the time. They also have a lot of supporters who balance things out, so they cannot be lynched unlike a regular person. If you like test it. Make a posting that JFN (John Fru Ndi) farted last night and stank up the dinner with his honchos. Within 5 minutes, half a dozen zombies will swear that JFN, unlike ordinary mortals does not have that organ that gases; that he does not even need stinking food because he gets all his energy directly from the sun.

Chief Whip

To The Post management,
thank you for coming forward with explanations for the changes observed here recently. While admitting that we, readers, have no stake in what management decisions you make, permit me to suggest that you add more credibility and flavour to this news outlet by creating a more level playing field. All this twisting and turning with shallow reasons all in a bit to justify the removal of the commentary column of the article on forged documents in UB leaves us in doubt that The Post managment is in the same boat as the many who are standing on the way of the fight against corruption in our country.
Could you, for example, explain to me how this new procedure will stop me from making slanderous comments here? Haven made these "security" arrangements why then are you still holding onto the commentary column of that article? As you probably would have read from those contributing on this blog, (including Tayong and a handfull of others) the die is cast and there is no turning away from this important issue. Also, as one contributor rightly mentioned, The Post has always stoodby and watched as commentators castigate politicians of all ilk, apparently because they have not paid their immunity dues to The Post Management. What have you done about the slanderous comments pouring out against Ben Muna? And the recent outburst of defamations and calumny against Fru Ndi? ......and the ceaseless berating and vilification of Mr. Paul Biya?

It is an open secret that some of your staff frequently rub should-to-should with UB authorities soliciting "special" favours from them for their sweethearts studying in the university. Little wonder The Post management will rush to provide a blanket condemnation of those attempting to rupture the image of its neighbours (UB) which helps both financially and socially to keep its offices open.

Please, bring back the commentary column of that article. That is all we ask of you.


Whip

Ashwell Molaba

Ma Mary,

Your point that we are guest of The POST is well appreciated. In fact your analogy is a good one. But it critically misses the point. No one as far as I have read blames The POST for this editorial decision. In fact it is a good move to weed out those who use this site to settle personal scores.

What you failed to understand is that we (at least me) are complaining about the reasons given. It is The Post's prerogative to shut all comments down. But to wipe out our comments under flimsy pretexts cannot and should not be mistaken for "journalistic fairness". To use Akoson's words, that does not hold water. Tell us to go to hell rather than say "we are being fair". Fair to who? To those who have been called brainless, homosexuals having affairs with relatives of everyone? Fair to who, I dare ask again.

Ma Mary, you also make the obvious mistaken of calling people "juvies". While the reasons for that may exist in your head, it must be said that, such is what The POST should act against. You write under the impression that all of us enjoy or gain something out of writing in this forum. Hence your analogy of people drunk in another man's house. I dare say, most of us contribute in this forum due to our frustration with our motherland. May be you get a "high" from writing in this forum, but every time I have to comment, I cry for my beloved country.

Chief Whip

(Please, ignore my previous posting)

To The Post management,
thank you for coming forward with explanations for the changes observed here recently. While admitting that we, readers, have no stake in what management decisions you make, permit me to suggest that you add more credibility and flavour to this news outlet by creating a more level playing field. All this twisting and turning with shallow reasons all in a bit to justify the removal of the commentary column of the article on forged documents in UB leaves us in doubt that The Post managment is in the same boat as the many who are standing on the way of the fight against corruption in our country.
Could you, for example, explain to me how this new procedure will stop me from making slanderous comments here? Haven made these "security" arrangements why then are you still holding onto the commentary column of that article? As you probably would have read from those contributing on this blog, (including Tayong and a handfull of others) the die is cast and there is no turning away from this important issue. Also, as one contributor rightly mentioned, The Post has always stoodby and watched as commentators castigate politicians of all ilk, apparently because they have not paid their immunity dues to The Post Management. What have you done about the slanderous comments pouring out against Ben Muna? And the recent outburst of defamations and calumny against Fru Ndi?

It is an open secret that some of your staff frequently rub shoulder-to-shoulder with UB authorities soliciting "special" favours from them for their sweethearts studying in the university. Little wonder The Post management will rush to provide a blanket condemnation of those attempting to rupture the image of its neighbours (UB) which helps both financially and socially to keep its offices open.

Please, bring back the commentary column of that article. That is all we ask of you.

Whip

Dr A A Agbormbai

The last time Typekey was used to control access many people had problems registering with the system, so I'd like to suggest that the Post includes a detailed and permanent procedure for registering with this facility.

This should be a permanent feature accessible from the menu, on the left frame of the page, rather than being an article that will very soon disappear from view.

Teribobs

Ma Mary wrote:
"They also have a lot of supporters who balance things out, so they cannot be lynched unlike a regular person. If you like test it. Make a posting that JFN (John Fru Ndi) farted last night and stank up the dinner with his honchos. Within 5 minutes, half a dozen zombies will swear that JFN, unlike ordinary mortals does not have that organ that gases; that he does not even need stinking food because he gets all his energy directly from the sun."

Amen! to this Ma Mary. I don't see why we are belabouring this issue. Charly Ndi Chia has eaten soya and there is no turning back. What stops me from posting an article on the UB soap here? The Post management can feel free to shut down the comment column completely. That will be the only means of curbing didactive and informative write-ups as well as calumnies and settling of scores. It will be a good thing if it can curb the latter but not the former.

Akoson


THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE!

What should be the fate of students who create false documents to secure postgraduate spots or jobs?

32.8%
They should be expelled or fired

36.3%
They should be tried in court

5.0%
They should pay back the money they made with the false papers

17.0%
They should be let off with a stern warning

44.4%
Leave them alone; everyone is a crook


Ashwell Molaba

Someone once said, democracy is tyranny of the majority. Akoson, I don't know where you get these percentages of yours from but they seem to corroborate the fact that Cameroon is one of the most corupt countries in the world. But I must say wherever you took them from, it is not a representative sample of Cameroonians. Every self respecting Cameroonian knows that coruption is bad for us and it must be dealt with.

Willie Tangwan

While I applaud the breathtaking step made by “The Post” in the last few years in web publishing rivalling ace English Cameroonian editorials like “The Herald” that has laid deep-set ever since it declined, and being one of the good and formidable source for the South West and North West provincial news in particular and Cameroon in general, I maintain my stand as stated in previous comments. “The Post” should not forget the raison d’etre of their existence and the use of blogs facilities. Readers have used this blogs to air their views, criticise on certain grounds, educate other readers likewise enriching the paper as a whole. As stated by The Post, they have decided to crack down on comments embedded with insults, irrelevancy to the article etc etc. by introducing “Typekey”. Does The Post think this will solve the problem? Sure it prevents readers from using multiple pseudo and registered usernames, but regrettably fails to address the use of insults. In fact you have not resolved the issue and it does not justify the reason for closing the comments section of alleged forged certificates from Buea University. The only way to carve out unscrupulous write ups is by editing them like the BBC does. But has The Post got the same resources to match up? I am not trying to use the BBC to measure up to “The Post” here but to learn a dance you must start with the wrong steps. The Post should have learned a lesson by now that, the last time they introduced Typekey the number of comments dropped drastically sending a resounding message that it was a wrong line of thought. The question that puzzles me is why The Post decided only now and particularly with this article about students who forged certificate purporting to be from University of Buea? Is there any thing unusual about comments on this article that we have not seen in previous publications? Is it the truth that is so bitter like quinine pill and difficult to swallow? Has this article gone too far as revealing some underlying truth plaguing our corrupt system? Which ever way the wind blows the truth is, this article has exposed some deep rooted ills of our society, and until we STAMP IT OUT at this level we shall continue to bare the grudge of sowing the wrong seeds.

That is the real me and not different from what I was.

Ma Mary

Ashwell, Akoson - points well made. There are holes in the Post's logic, but there are always holes to be found in any executive decision. One point is certain, it is long overdue for the post to put some controls in its readers' comments section on this website.

There is a big difference between opinion and slander. My opinion that many of you are juvenile cyberthugs may be rough, but it is just that, an opinion. Your opinion that I am getting a kind of high from writing here from time to time is also an opinion and speculation about motives. It is quite different if I established your true identities in Beijing and South Africa and began to tear you down online.

Those who slander on the Post are shooting themselves on the foot, if they want to expose professors who are exchanging pass marks for sexual favours. If you want to change things, you have got to collect evidence - witnesses, victims, photographs, films, tape recordings and so on. You have got to make it stick, then get it published. Some of you kids already possess the technology to collect evidence, but your own morals are wanting, so I do not think that you will do what it takes to collect that data. I believe this kind of activity is going on in UB, but that is opinion and speculation until there is solid proof.

Why do I say that your morals are wanting? The poll results sent in by Akoson speak volumes about people who answered it. The prevailing excuse that people who alter transcripts should be let off because the whole society is corrupt speaks volumes about the moral bancruptcy.

People who go abroad and for selfish reasons present false transcripts to post graduate institutions are degrading the qualifications of those who are honest. Scholarship is only credible if scholars are credible, so real universities take an extreme stand against these kinds of academic misdeeds-

- Fake credentials
- Tampering with the outcomes and reporting of research
- Plagiarism

Doing any of these could cost you the equivalent of an academic death sentence at any real university in the world.


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vally England


The post must be joking,the prcedure to register and the red tapes associated each time one tries to get on-line is like the dobious cencors being conducted by Biya and his junta colleagues.

Vally
England.

Francis Nche

I have followed up this UB SAGA with a lot of concerned and I am with the impression that the Post has something to hide or they are in complicity with the authorities in place to protect their short-comings. Their explanation on the censuship of this topic does not add up. Like any other aspect linked to Cameroon society, I am afraid if the post continue in this path down the road, it will soon constitute a part of the problem rather than a part of the solution. While acknowledging that some individuals can chip in slanderous statements at time in this forum for personal bias, I am sure the authorities and the system in place have also a part to play in this sad situation which is pushing our youths to.
(1) The Post should not consider as slander when some one cite some Lecturer in UNIYAO like Dr. MESSI Jean, Dr. Mimfoundi Remy, Dr Njayou and some in UB like Dr. Kwalar Shadrach, Dr. Tosah etc that they gain pleasure in dishing out failed grades to students. In UniYAO (12/20=Mention Assez Bien or E grade) is still viewed as a mark to be awarded only to genuises and lecturers are praised for failing students.
(2) Since 1991, no degrees have been issues in UNIYAO and Grdauates from 1997 in UB are not yet having their degrees signed. It takes averagely a decade for a degree to be issues in Cameroon
(2) The procedure of obtaining a transcript is very expensively, cumbersome, time consuming and tinted with fraud since at any level, either a secretary, typist, a mail delivery officer or any lower staff not to talk of those in higher ranks can sex-up the marks. Most foreign Universities required that transcripts should be sent directly to the School by the Cameroonian Universities. If you don't send a person possibly with an envelop to follow up and take it and forward to the University concerned, no University in Cameroon does that and this is still another avenure of changing marks in the transcript although it will be apperently authentic.
(3) Many Students feel that they are not in the level playing field due to the case of say in UB for Dr. Ngoh. Such as case was in UNIYAO when the late Dr. Ebot of English Department was asking ladies either to chose between the table or the floor. God rewarded his deed with AIDS that took his live. I recall him say in his sick bed that " A goat eats where it is tied although a snake can bite italso there"
(4) Political intervenetion in the University either to take an unqualified student, staff or adminstrators are possible sources of such fraud. Nobody will dispute the fact Njeuma's academic credentials does not qualify her to be a rector and most studens offering foreign scholarships through the Minstry are unqulaified relative or girl friend.
(5)The worse situation is the opaque nature in which our Universities are run. Even in the 21st century, Universities are not having a functional website where information can be verified. UB is not having a websites upon all the pressure from within and without to get one. They are still afraid of transparency. Some lecturers and authoriries are afraid that some of their fake credentials reportly from Universities abroad will expose them. Some individuals maybe using fack degrees and if they expose themselves in the internet, they will be cought. That is the reason, a website may always be an illusion in UB. Even in UNIYAO which was pressured three years ago to get a website (www.Uni-net.cm), the only message you get from it is that the "site is under construction". Try the e-mail there as a University to write the rector ot the authorities of UNIYAO, you will as expected never even recieve a "junk" reply.
These and many other reasons is why fraud can be promoted in our eductational system and yet you seemingly cover this up by indicating that calling "a spade a spade" is slanderous

chiefmboe

Just Thinking Aloud

My problem with The Post has finally been solved.

Chief Mboe

Chim

The intervention by the post editor in chief is quite timely. This forum was becoming rather annoying. I hope that from now on we will behave more gentlemanly instead of flying insults from right to left and vise versa. I will strongly sugest that we discuss issues in the news and not always chasing shadows and making statements that do not contain their meaning. Once again thanks to the editor in chief for the wonderful and timely intervention. Keep your eyes open on the coments in this forum, and step in at times to put contributors back on the rails.GOD SAVE US Emmanuel Chim

original mukete

Dear Readers,

This is the "original mukete" writing.

I think we should thank The Post Management for the stance it took on the article relating to the published lists of fraudulent Cameroonians as concerns certificates and transcripts from the University of Buea. Reading through the message from The Post on this matter, one is quick to realize that reasonable people have been digesting and assimilating what I write. However, The Post should have done some justice by appreciating the very timely contribution that I brought in, because it pushed those CRYING students into hiding and big-mouthly closing their mouths.

On another note, the decision to check the many abuses that have been noticed here is very appreciated. Only those who have something to hide would be (mis)using the names of other readers. The fact that my humble name - mukete- has been a subject of exploitation and misuse here is clear evidence that the light I bring here is actually giving skeptics sleepless nights. But what do we expect? Old women are never at ease when dry bones are mentioned in proverbs.

One thing is clear. People may take away my name; they may take away my properties and businesses; they may take away my family; they may even take away the air I breath and the food I eat. BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE AWAY THE LIGHT I CARRY WITH ME. I have a patriotic duty to transform darkness into light, and if skeptics wouldn't listen, then it is their problem.

I have been reading ALL the comments on the meeting of Ni John Fru Ndi with the State cOunsel in Yaounde, but believe me, everybody is completely out of the reality. I have been monitoring events and I continue to have access to this issue. It is a well staged drama involving Ni John Fru Ndi and the Fon of Balikumbat. What the man of law presented to Ni John Fru Ndi kept him sweating and asking for negotiation. This is what the same government did to silence Bouba Bello Maigari and Federick Kodock.

I will be writing.

Mukete
(Original mukete)

original mukete

The Post management has once more taken its responsibility to assure that childishness does not prevail in this forum. Those who use the names of other readers so as to distort facts, are merely demonstrating a high degree of irresponsibility and childishness. They do not only have selfish interests to defend, but lack facts to provide. Using the names of others is a confirmation that they have failed and that they have nothing to offer. They give reason to the people whose names they use.

It is not who writes or where he writes from which is important. It is the message and its reasoning that matters.

Bravo The Post.

Mukete
(Original mukete)

Ashwell Molaba

Mukete, please get over yourself. I have never seen someone with a bigger ego. Everything on the planet happens because of him. Does he ever listen to himself?

Ma Mary, we wouldn't want to get into opinions now, would we? You call people childish and say it is just your opinion. People are morally bankcrupt because of a questionable survey? What is morality by the way? Who sets the standards? Let's leave it at that. The Post has every right to do whatever they choose on their site but every right thinking mind can see that their explanation does not hold water.

Ma Mary

Molaba - very smart person gets it to a degree. It is a free service, with a whole lot of kids with an unwarranted sense of entitlement sounding off on it.

I remember very well, when postnewsline reported the facts about the disturbances at UB. A lot of students thought that the postnewsline was their friend, because its brave reporters went to the places where the bullets were flying and brought out photos and reports.

Now in another story, an important story in which a bunch of students have behaved in a very questionable manner, they refuse to reflect. They do not want to deal with the question of academic dishonesty when it concerns them and try to turn it into an inquisition of the University and The Post.

No, Ashwell, the morals are quite clear here, and I wonder why you do not get it. Have you been parading questionable credentials around in SA yourself? (Not an opinion, but a natural speculation in the circumstances)

Mbu.B

I do not know what magic made it possible for me to sign in.In fact my last try turned successful.
For once we can say good bye to the unqualifiable impersonation and slander. I am personally thankful to the post for this step.
And though our wranglings here would not reduce the drive between Kumba and Buea from 3hours to 55minutes as it used to be, it helps to mould some minds.
The level of contributions have been placed very high,more or less a political science school.I really admire those who brainstorm and impart knowledge and as well as those who also keep chasing names instead of ideas, you make the site fun to browse.
Good luck to you all!

Muki StoneHall

On the surface one may be tempted to believe that THE POST is right but if you dig deeper you will realise that they have skeletons in their cupboard.Look at it this way:
1)As has been asked several times above,why is THE POST so concerned about slander only when it concerns UB? From inception,slander has been a common feature on this forum.
2)THE POST claimed that most of the comments failed to address the issue in question.The issue in question is "forgery".Is it the duty of UB authories to address forgery or that of commentators?
To the best of my knowledge all the comments had something to do with forgery.
3)This forum is a public forum and therefore a very perfect medium for any wrongly accused person to clear himself/herself in public.Do the people THE POST is protecting feel too big to comment on this forum?
4) How can a newspaper that had been at the forefront of press freedom turn round and institute something worse than press censorship?
My advice:THE POST should make it abundantly clear to the whole world that there are not responsible for any comments that appear on this forum.If you want to delete comments that contain slander,do not do selective deletion.Do not give us a goat and hold back the rope or tell us where to tether it.

James4

Did Fru involve himself with the Murder of this guy? We don't know, ur eit might be the same old politics cabk in Cameroon, but we have to wait and see and hope Justice will take its course.

Same old politics again.

James4

Did Fru involve himself with the Murder of this guy? We don't know, ur eit might be the same old politics cabk in Cameroon, but we have to wait and see and hope Justice will take its course.

Same old politics again.

Manga

Go to the archives and you will realize that in the past couple of years, the Post has attempted to manage the comments section at least thrice - and they were not all about UB. My typekey account was created over a year ago during one of those moments. So to limit it to UB doesn't make sense.

Whatever the case, one has to start doing the correct thing at some point, especially when the threat of a potential lawsuit is very real - yes the Post can be sued for defamation.

I will personally urge the Post to go one step further. Now that the number of frivolous comments have dropped considerably, I urge it to try and set aside resources to monitor the comments and edit the comments if necessary at least once a day. That will ensure that the comments section is in line with the quality of the articles. I know of many people who no longer visit this site not because of the articles but because of the comments. It shouldn't be that way and it is the post which is losing. Let us not give in to a handful of noisy rabble-rousers.

We need to tighten the comments section some more.

Francis/Germany

Hallo all.Judging from the ammount of postings here just under 48 hours shows that this system works very well.Praises to the Postnewsline. Then coming to the fact of faking identities, there is no way you can persuade everyone using this forum to behave maturely and rightly. So let them be. Experience has shown than a greater percentage of those who indulge in such practices never write sense. So we can just ignore them. Once more, praises to the Post. Even if it is just 1 person fished out, it is still an achievement worth mentioning.

Akoson

Ashwell,

You don't need to bother belabouring on an issue that everyone sees so well. It's conspicuously clear nomatter how hard we try to hide the truth. Like Teribobs righlty puts it, I'll refrain from naming names, SOMEONE HAS EATEN SOYA.

To All my detractors, Now let us keep up the debate to modernise the functioning of the SDF. Such debates will serve our future NEC and Parliamentarians well and will probably better the lives of our kids. Let the interaction, the discussion and the debate go on. Without malice. Without personal attacks. Without acrimony.

The Lord is our Shepherd. Though we now walk in the valley of the shadow of uncertainty and hatred, we should fear no evil. For the Lord is fully in charge.

Son Of Ako - Just worried about Cameroon. Oh Cameroon!

BenB

Akoson Roki of Shangai LSE/Havard, where have you kept your Roki name and other fake ones you've been using here? Sofa man. And you forgot to sign LSE or Havard? Pa ha you betray ya sef so?

And for those who think this new order is working, let them go to the Ni John charged/not charged story and see how many impersonators are there.

Feli, Atangha, atangha, BenF, mukete, etc. Aren't they all the same person acting his usual drama to de-stress himslef? And who says Typekey/Typepad has solved the problem?

Make dem be dey di worryy dem sef.

BenF

Big Joe

Dear BenB,

Go back to Akoson's comment just above and compare it with yours bellow. If you don't see the difference then i will humbly advice you to go get help from mature writters like Feli,Fon,Muki,Atangha, Klamanceau, Ashwell molaba etc.
Have a blessed weekend Sir.

Fritzane Kiki HK

No doubt that this move by the post's heirachy is overwhelmly applauded by the general public against pepertrators of misrepresentation and pliagarism.My point is if forum members can uphold to journalistic norms of sourceful information and non-alignment policy in their write-ups, then we will be heading towards the rightful goal.We should try to be free where we love and frank where it went wrong and forget about cliques and brotherhood in our write-ups.Our comments becomes lack of coherance,boring and more weird when we turn the forum into a diction of voilence,disagreements and most often posting off-topic comments.I do hope our maturity and steadfastness will lead us to our goal here to provide constructive contributions to help enlighten and educate Cameroonians alike for the better future of our fatherland.
Good luck to al

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Teribobs


Francis wrote:

"Then coming to the fact of faking identities, there is no way you can persuade everyone using this forum to behave maturely and rightly. So let them be. Experience has shown than a greater percentage of those who indulge in such practices never write sense."

Your are absolutely correct Francis.

Fritzane,
How can you talk of maturity when we have people here who let others do the thinking for them. That is the case of CDF. Do you think those blind followers of JFN think? BAD Ndam who introduced commercial activism into the SDF is doing the thinking for his cohorts. When you read from his Kontchou, you can easily know his mindset. Smear campaign is an integral part of him. Wait for the next truth dispenser and see calumnies that will result from that. It is obvious that Col Ngafor and his death squad are revealing truths. Soon they will start calling them names or saying Col Ngafor is looking for a ministerial post. They will tell you how he got money to build his Odja mansion. Wait and see. How do you expect matured discussions when senior adults like Muki Stonehead are trying to be player and referee?

Fritzane Kiki HK

Teribobs,
Point of correction the name is Muki Stonehall and not Muki Stonehead maybe you may be mistaken to another Muki you know.Actually I want to advive him that he should be modest in adversity.The way he writes is more aggressive and blatant against the Post leadership.Is this an advice or warning Muki?..... "My advice:THE POST should make it abundantly clear to the whole world that there are not responsible for any comments that appear on this forum.If you want to delete comments that contain slander,do not do selective deletion.Do not give us a goat and hold back the rope or tell us where to tether it"

When I talk of maturity Teribobs this is what I mean because an advice is different from a warning.We should know the way we address people and the Post in particular.Muki you know you are a newbie here and should show some respect for the Post Administration for letting us express our selves freely here.

Teribobs,I have not seen our colleagues recently Watasih,Klemanceau and host of others.I only guess they might be having log in problems.I just hope they can come back and join us soon.I can see Mbu B too who after several weeks of absence yet struggled to log in as he says "I do not know what magic made it possible for me to sign in.In fact my last try turned successful".

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Gogoyle

Dear Friends,

Just happy to be part of this forum.

with time, I hope to meet Mukete, Muki, Rexon, Teribobs and others on cyberspace.

AGBOR

Dear All,

I very much appreciate the post for allowing us express ourselves both negatively and positivley.
I would not want to comment on the UB issue now cos its now history. Though the post took a giant step to purt us on the rail whne things went off hands, their genuinity of their reason for taking off comments that issue seem to be beyond just the reason they cited.
Personally, I don't comment on all issues but only gets involved when there is need for my opinion to be listened by others.
However, it is not the place of Mukete and Ma Mary to brand fellow commentators. Thats equally slandering........
I know the administration of the post will always like to read our opinions probably explaining why they still provided other means for us to express our views.
I will like to point out that at times some of us react to other comments rather than making useful contributions/commentaries before reacting. Also we all know that some people have carried brands like the La Republique, SDF and SCNC to make comments on issue which donot even require such citations. I think if all of us want a successful and reasonable commentary page then we should atleast try to be in-line with the caption of the article."No errors": Not saying the comments on the issue UB frogery saga are out of scope but some were actually extreme. I can explain why: it involved an issue of corruption espcially academic corruption.
Mr Mukete whether real or not, no one has asked you to tell us about your light. Everybody has his own light and who knows if the person who ever used "your" Mukete is not Mukete (not personal anyway).That again derails from the caption of the article.I think its time for us to sit down and think together about our comments and i will like to wish all of us the best.
The POST, I do appreciate your efforts in re-directing us and giving us the opportunity to express ourselves BUT wonna sef: sometime di stay like 2 weeks wonna nodi update. Waiti di happen for CRTV? Wonna try broke we the news.

tayong

Who are we?

Since we dont see who writes here we know them by their fruits as the bible puts it. We are all supposedly to be here for nation building and should people take on the rampage in scores settling, insults, demagogy, blackmail etc then the Post had no option than to do what they have just done.

Freedom is not anarchy and confusion. Worst still some of them want Cameroonians to swear by them for leadership.Lead who and how? I may recommend the post to even sanction dubious contributors ,hiding their identities since they have nothing to offer but black lies and insults.

Tayong

rexon

Here again, the post management have proven to us that they are part of the conspiracy to destroy the lives and aspirations of the poor and helpless. If the post can delete the names of people whom a corrupt group of occultist claimed have forged UB degree's, they should have also deleted the list of forgers as there is no clear evidence that they actually are guilty of having forged UB degrees or something of the sort. What if henchmen of the regime decides to send an application for say someone against the regime and turn around and said he forged these degree's, how will the post be able to prove them wrong? We all know that others were merely expressing their concerns and providing ample evidences that the real fraudsters are henchmen of the regime. Moreso, it was an open child predator who provided that list. Who first gave him the authority to manage our children? I think it is time we get real in that failed republic.

rexon

Here again, the post management have proven to us that they are part of the conspiracy to destroy the lives and aspirations of the poor and helpless. If the post can delete the comments of us in this forum, they should have also deleted the list of forgers as there is no clear evidence that they actually are guilty of having forged UB degrees or something of the sort. What if henchmen of the regime decides to send an application for say someone against the regime and turn around and said he forged these degree's, how will the post be able to prove them wrong? We all know that others were merely expressing their concerns and providing ample evidences that the real fraudsters are henchmen of the regime. Moreso, it was an open child predator who provided that list. Who first gave him the authority to manage our children? I think it is time we get real in that failed republic.

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