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Monday, 08 January 2007

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Emah

If we Anglophones have eyes lets see and ears let's hear.

This is not the first time we have been told in public places, in parliamentary sessions, in diplomatic meetings and gatherings that' YOU ARE NOT WANTED, IS NOT YOUR PLACE, PLEASE LEAVE'.

A word to a wise is sufficient. Where are the 'THOMASES'? Any doubts still?

A good NEW YEAR food for thought.

M Nje

Thank you Mr. Ahmadou Ali. You, like Prince Fame Ndongo are just helping to make our case. Keep up the good work.

rexon

I call on all SDF fools in this forum to defend their soo called Unitary state here.

He Ahmadou Ali, like most rightminded Citizens of La Republique Francaise du Cameroun are quite aware of the constitution of La Republique du Cameroun. In that constitution, english is not the official language of la republique as it is described as a counterfeit language. Ahmadou Ali also knows squarly that Fru Ndi can never become president of La Republique Francaise Du cameroun. He is also knows that legitimately, the Southern cameroons is not part of La Republique Francaise Du cameroun.

This is not the first time high level members of La Republique have publicly informed you, blocked headed Southern Cameroonians that you are not one of theirs. I will cite you numerous cases:

Hogbe Nlend, Depanda Mouelle have "Rightly" informed Ni John Fru Ndi that he can never become the president of La Republique francaise du cameroun as he is not one of theirs.

A member of parliament did frankly informed Jua and other SDF parliamentarians that they are nigerians in an open parliamentary session.

etc.

Those of you, alglo-fools who want to keep begging from La Republique for recognition can keep doing that. As far as i am concerned, the SDF is instead legitimising their colonisation of our land as we are not part of La Republique.

Francis/Germany

What else can you expect from such a careless regime? Nothing good!!! We are doomed. Only God can save us. But believe me, all what goes up on earth will certainly come down. Look at Milosevic, Mumbutu, Saddam Hussein, Castro, Arafat,Kabila Sr.,Sharon, and the list is long. This people just end up like chickens in our mothers pots.I love my country Cameroon and believe me one day we shall be a great Nation.We need just one right man and the ball with get rolling.

M Nje

Francis
Permit me disagree with you that we are not doomed. Our solution lies in the Restoration of the Independence of Southern Cameroon. Southern Cameroons has a legitimate right to exist. Stand up and let us face these guys head on. After more than 40 years it is time to let the world know we can build our build our Nation, Southern Cameroons.

Remember that La Republic Du Cameroon was a French colony. Southern Cameroons has never been part of it. We had independent separately. These are two distinct nations. One (La Republic) is occupying the land of the other (Southern Cameroon) illegally.

So get mobilized, talk to your friends and neighbors. Make any contribution that you can to this struggle. We need you and many others.

Ma Mary

The Post story says:

"The declaration placed the English-speaking journalists in the hall in the uncomfortable situation of feeling like strangers in their own country."

Hello, wake up. What have you been smoking? Yawinde is NOT your country.

Kene

Well changing cameroon requires us to be brave and take certain chalenges. Journalist have the responsibility to correct the ills of our society. Was there no english speaking Journalist in that hall who was brave enough to tell the minister he has no right to make such a statement? This is the second unconstitutional statement this minister is making in less than a week.The first he called for anyone to prove the death of prisoners (which is his responsibility) and now placing a ban on english. No Journalist has dared to question him.
This is not an issue which should be handled on party lines. Tomorow so called anglophone journalist will not be needed at any press confrence hence no job for anglophone journalist. This include those of Cameroon Tribune and CRTV. I understand those who are brave are not wanted around yaounde and I don't blame them. Our anglophone journalist who took part in such a converence what do you think your children will say of you tomorow? Well the answer is simple: Daddy was bullied by Ahmadou Ali. What a pity.

Watesih

These apologists,Historians who want to pass for freedom fighters are really amusing people here.A true freedom fighter has been picked up by the Police in Cameroon,and is langishing in the cell,the Vice Prime Minister has spat on all Anglophones,instead of telling the world what they have done to storm the Police station,and get their man out,they have turned to the SDF.This is well known on this forum now that when these cowards,and internet freedom fighters are hit hard,they always try to diffuse their shame,and inability to do something on the SDF.They have become Historians,and spend their precious time repeating the History of Cameroon ,on the columns of newspapers.
Imagine that today people will praise the SDF,and the very next day ,when they are in trouble,they fight the same SDF.Few weeks ago ,the most cowardly,and boring of them did not know on which leg to dance when the UB crises were running out of hand.He turned to the SDF,and sought help,"I have called some of my friends who are in the SDF to ask why their hierarchy cannot join the striking students.This is the time we need these so called Politicians.Since they are more organised ,they are supposed to use this opportunity to overthrow the evil Biya regime.That is our cry" .You need these so called Politicians? Have you transfered your brains to them? Where is your own initiative as a freedom fighter? Story telling? They are more organised and are supposed to use this opportunity to overthrow the evil Biya regime.How can you expect those you accuse of eating together to overthrow one another?
That is your cry! So your cry is to see the SDF overthrow the evil Biya regime? No wonder you have no strategy for your SCNC!
This flipflopping is a disgrace to any freedom fighting movement.We only know some of them as having been disgruntled members of the SDf,who left for greener pastures.Apart from that we cannot count any action they have initiated in the name of the SCNC at the battle front,not in air conditioned offices,and classrooms.As the Anglophones ponder over their plight,we are not going to let a few theorists to take them hostage through pretence.Year in year out,we repeat the same story here.Hogbe Nlend said Fru Ndi cannot be President.Has that pushed the SCNC nearer to creating an autonomous region.This rather shows that Biya knows the Anglophones very well,and can easily use them against each other.If there`s any Anglophone weakening the brother
,be he from the SDF,or SCNC against Biya,that person is not different from the Muketes who were courageous enough to accept money ,and do their dirty job.

Akoson

Watesih,

Lets be truthful to our consciences. Please just answer this question with all SINCERITY. Please don't try to use rhetorics cos my brains are too dull for them.

My question: "DO you think that an anglophone can ever be president of Cameroon ?"

When you give me an answer I'll then tell you something I've got in mind!

The SON.

Reader

What actaually makes you guys have this firm conviction than an anglophone can naver be the president of Cameroon? Only losers can have thoughts. It's the same as saying a francophone can never rule southern Cameroon; but then what is happening now?

Watesih

Akoson,
Is the SCNC fighting against an Anglophone being President,or fighting for autonomy? By reducing the fight to who has to be President shows you people are more interested in partisan politics than the liberation of Southern Cameroon.

vito

Well Reader,i think they're trying to say Hogbe Nlend is their god and his utterances constitute their gosple.You se the man has cowered them into submission,fear,exile and development of an inferioirity complex.Schooled as they are,they cant reconcile the enslavement and subjugation of their minds and their obvious intellectual attainments;and having been cowered to ultimate ineptitude and inertia they pick on those who obviously are still braving the odds whether by beleif ,design or simple inability to get visas for the west coast of the US and england.
Think of it ;this weakling who goes out and gets a thrashing from the neighbour then gets drunk and comes back home to vent out his frustrations on his wife and kids infront of the same neighbour and the rest of the world.It is really disheartening.
so ahmadou ali or whatever says he wont entertain the Queen's language in his press conference and NI JOHN FRU NDI is to blame for that.
I pray the efforts of those trynig to pit the SDF against the SCNC come to nought,in Jesus' name.Amen.

Akoson


Vito,

You fumble with words like a kid!

I am a staunch SDF supporter. As any inner-circle member of the SDF they'll tell you about me. I asked Watesih a question and I'm very CERTAIN he knows why I decided to ask him on this open forum and not through other private means the way we've always done. I also knew he'll not answer my question directly.

My worry is NEXT ELECTIONS WOULD BE RIGGED. Nothing less than 80% for Biya. In 2011 elections WOULD STILL BE RIGGED. All this will be in favour of the FROGS not us. And what's the end result??? Your family back home will still continue feeding from the lil cocoayams they go dig from the back of the house while the Alis, Biyas, Okonos, Oyonos, the Danpullos keep parading in Paris for better medical attention for a simple cold.

Young man I tell you a thing, the handwriting is clear on the wall. Ask Inoni to organise his own press conference in Bamenda and tell journalists he wouldn't entertain French...and the only result you'll get will be from the next 5 PM news...cabinet shake up! We're not saying that the SDF has failed to deliver the goods. NO! But rather Biya is happy that there's an SDF so that he could drum his chest before any international body that his country's a democracy.

My point: we're not saying that the SDF shouldn't be. Even if Mr. Fru Ndi decides to dissolve the party and join the SCNC it wouldn't work cos Biya'll immediately plackade people like Muna to form parties and stand up as opposition to deceive the world.

It was a simple question I asked Watesih. But he would rather behave like a general in the army and denying at admit that he's been defeited...how??? That we(anglophones) are in a fix - we're inbetween the claws of a hungry lion. We need another ALL ANGLOPHONES CONFERENCE to rethink our strategy! If you deny that in the 1990s 95 out of 100 Cameroonians were for the SDF and that now only something less than 10 out of 100 are still with the SDF then you're sitting on your conscience. Again I'm SDF but that' the bitter truth.

The worried SON!

Watesih

Akoson,
I knew you were going to make an incorrigible mistake of running to conclusions without looking at all the contours of my answer.You are right to say that i behave like an army general who would not admit defeat.You on your part have already admitted defeat,so what on earth are you craving for another Anglophone conference? Is this conference going to discuss the fact that Fru Ndi will never be President according to Hogbe Nlend?
You have admitted defeat,thats why they arrest a comrade in Cameroon,instead of taking up the topic,and calling on combattants to storm the Police station,you start paying lip-service about the SDF.In 1995 ,95 % of Cameroonians were SDF,what percentage was SCNC? In 2007 where are we with the SCNC? The life span of the SDF does not end with winning elections on,or before 2011.How old was the ANC when it finally acceded to power? Today I`m ashamed that you guys accuse French mercenaries like the Hogbe Nlends of transforming Cameroon into a jungle,yet everyday you guys draw inspiration from them for political debate.
When you draw inspiration from all sorts of homosexuals to discuss the problems of your people ,how would you want people to look at you?
Akoson,you`ve just worsened things for yourself.You seem not to know the meaning of a freedom movement.A freedom movement is not partisan in anyway,so your proclamation of staunchness in the SDF is in stark contrast to the type of fighters such a movement would welcome.You cannot fight from two fronts.The SDF is not an automate,where we have to manipulate according to our changing moods.Today when something positive comes up
we shower panaegyrics on the leaders,the next day when there`s some perceived trouble
,we take the party for a plaything,accusing it of legitimising an evil regime we always applaud it against.Either you are a SCNC propagandist,or your are a staunch member of the SDF.The two cannot not go hand in glove,unless one becomes surbordinate to the other,and is carried out behind the scenes.
Mandela was in Prison for 27 years ,and could not even dig the cocoyams some people dig behind their houses.The Saddams,
Milosevic could order in the best international Doctors in a matter of hours,
but they nevertheless did not die peacefully on their beds,as the poor cocoyam diggers behind our houses do.
Akoson,i`m happy we know ourselves,and the way we tackle issues.When people want to use scapegoatism here to dodge the issues of the day,they are not going to have their cake and eat it.The time has passed when any
Tom and Dick could mumble some incomprehensible utterances,or some sublime mysticism,and would like to speak for the people.If you want to speak for the people,you must be focused ,and truthful.
Anything ,less than this is illusion.

Watesih

Akoson,
I knew you were going to make an incorrigible mistake of running to conclusions without looking at all the contours of my answer.You are right to say that i behave like an army general who would not admit defeat.You on your part have already admitted defeat,so what on earth are you craving for another Anglophone conference? Is this conference going to discuss the fact that Fru Ndi will never be President according to Hogbe Nlend?
You have admitted defeat,thats why they arrest a comrade in Cameroon,instead of taking up the topic,and calling on combattants to storm the Police station,you start paying lip-service about the SDF.In 1995 ,95 % of Cameroonians were SDF,what percentage was SCNC? In 2007 where are we with the SCNC? The life span of the SDF does not end with winning elections on,or before 2011.How old was the ANC when it finally acceded to power? Today I`m ashamed that you guys accuse French mercenaries like the Hogbe Nlends of transforming Cameroon into a jungle,yet everyday you guys draw inspiration from them for political debate.
When you draw inspiration from all sorts of homosexuals to discuss the problems of your people ,how would you want people to look at you?
Akoson,you`ve just worsened things for yourself.You seem not to know the meaning of a freedom movement.A freedom movement is not partisan in anyway,so your proclamation of staunchness in the SDF is in stark contrast to the type of fighters such a movement would welcome.You cannot fight from two fronts.The SDF is not an automate,where we have to manipulate according to our changing moods.Today when something positive comes up
we shower panaegyrics on the leaders,the next day when there`s some perceived trouble
,we take the party for a plaything,accusing it of legitimising an evil regime we always applaud it against.Either you are a SCNC propagandist,or your are a staunch member of the SDF.The two cannot not go hand in glove,unless one becomes surbordinate to the other,and is carried out behind the scenes.
Mandela was in Prison for 27 years ,and could not even dig the cocoyams some people dig behind their houses.The Saddams,
Milosevic could order in the best international Doctors in a matter of hours,
but they nevertheless did not die peacefully on their beds,as the poor cocoyam diggers behind our houses do.
Akoson,i`m happy we know ourselves,and the way we tackle issues.When people want to use scapegoatism here to dodge the issues of the day,they are not going to have their cake and eat it.The time has passed when any
Tom and Dick could mumble some incomprehensible utterances,or some sublime mysticism,and would like to speak for the people.If you want to speak for the people,you must be focused ,and truthful.
Anything ,less than this is illusion.

Ma Mary

OK, people, stop quarreling.

Ma Mary

Instead of quarreling, discuss.

Ndiks

Should we stop bleating?The toerag minister knows what he says.Victims who still claim and or want to be camerounians by force should be doing the bleat.The toerag minister just revolves their usual utterance and should not really affect us from east of the international boundary.A newscrew from Nigeria,south Africa might still have been in that hovel conference hall and wiil feel it.It is nothing to quibble about.Even political jokers from our territory are not immune to such colonial jabs and mortifications,but will keep on playing monkey business and leaving in denial through their online prolocutors.

M Nje

A CALL FOR UNITY AND FOCUS

My dear friends,
Ahmadou Ali by any standards has insulted 6million + Southern Cameroonians. What are we going to do about it. That is the question we need to answer. I see his action as a classic style in this criminal enterprise. There are trying to divide us between SCNC and non-SCNC. Place do not fall prey to this. Let us be united.

My friends, we are caught with a group of people who do not want to see us around. In their expressions and in their body language they have made that point. The currency that is used in La Republique today has no English word, La Republique Du Cameroon is presented in the international scene as a French country. The President or what ever you call him, has never address the nation with an English word (to the best of my recollection). These are just a few instances beside Mr. Ahmadou Ali`s statement to prove that we are not wanted.

Question: SO WHAT DO WE DO? DO WE JUST KEEP ON BEGGING TO BE PART OF THIS ENTITY?

If you say we should stay then back it up.

My answer is we need to get out. Here are a few points

1. It was an illegal union.
2. After 40+ years, the other party has no interest in us. Common sense tells us that in any relation whether business or matrimonial, when the other party says it is over, then it certainly is.
3. What future do we have in this relation?
4. etc etc etc etc etc

I want to have a Southern Cameroons state. My own country. The SCNC stands for that. It is a constitutional struggle than it is political. It is not about an Anglophone president. Rather, it is about a Nation (Southern Cameroons) that was manipulated to join another Nation (La Republique Du Cameroun) illegally.

For our brothers and sisters in the SDF, know that we have no fight against you. At least some of us don`t. If I were convince that I can have a Southern Cameroons state through the SDF, I will certainly be a very strong supporter. A critical look at the present political sense gives me no reason to hope for any free and fair elections in this structure.

In a nutshell, I will like to say that if you are for a Southern Cameroonian state, then join the SCNC , SCYL, or any other organization that share the goals of a statehood for Southern Cameroons. It is fight based on facts not politics. It can be proven in any court or jury. These facts cannot be rigged by politicians.

If you don`t care about a Southern Cameroons state you have a right to join any political part you desire. But remember that if Ni John Fru Ndi had to run for any office in a Southern Cameroon state, he will have my vote and that of many others who believe in the SCNC. We have nothing again him

Be united, be focus, the struggle is between Southern Cameroonians and the government of La Republique Du Cameroun. Not among ourselves.

Peace to you all.

rexon

Watesih,

You keep claiming to speak for the SDF and accusing others for trying to speak for the masses. I wonder if anybody have ever told you here that his ideologies defines the aspirations of all readers in this forum. You keep asking questions about strategic values and organisational cultures that can bring change.

Let me explain clealy certain facts to you. Although a sense of direction is habitually important, it can seemingly stifle creativity, especially if it is rigidly enforced. In an uncertain and ambiguous world, fluidity can be more important than a finely tuned strategy. Such strategy need to emcompass rational thinking. You keep quoting different freedom fighting movements like the ANC as if Fru Ndi’s frolics like his renting his house to PMUC after criticising French companies in Africa was politically correct. When a strategy becomes internalised into a political culture, it can lead to group think. It can also influence and cause an organisation to define itself too narrowly, thereby making change or adaptation to change extremely difficult. An example of this is your SDF frolics of Boycott, (French goods, elections, taxes, etc). what was the lifespan of all these frolics. Who first violated all these soo called strategies of the SDF? SDF people themselves. Ni john was the first to rent his house to French companies after criticising them. He exposed him weaknesses to the public, that he did’nt understood the implications of what he was saying. Now the results, is the lack of interest in opposition ideologies by our people, their unique lamentation and fashionable disbelief on political ideologies like boycott, etc.

Most theories of your sdf tend to be too narrow in focus to build a successful political strategy or are too general and abstract to sink into the mind of rational political thinkers with seemingly realistic political consciousness. In the 90’s we heard long stories of power to the power and now, nothing, virtually nothing. The low success rate of our political and social philosophy in the southern Cameroons is because of people like you who seem to be focused on propagating the ideologies of self-styled political guru’s like Ni John and criticising every ideology that goes against your expectation. Watesih, I don’t focus on the ideologies and political thinking of self-appointed guru’s of the SCNC. It is to me like a religion and I believe its leaders will come and go while the southern Cameroonian political conciousness will stay forever. If Ayamba, our present guru is no longer in the forefront of the struggle, that would’nt hamper my political conciousness in anyway. The low success rate of our political values has been as a direct resulf of Fru Ndi’s circuit of political lectures in the early 90’s, where he preached revoluntionary ideas in groundbreaking rallies in many large and small cities like Douala and mutengene, ideas that he Fru Ndi himself could not support when tempted with political sawyer. While there were inspirational ideas in most of his theories, the mere fact that he could not honour a single pledge of boycott of French goods and went as far as renting his house to PMUC has brought untold suffering to our people. If you want to argue with me, do attempt to sample the political conciousness of our people. You will realise that fashionable political discourse like power to the people, boycott of anything, etc does not mean anything to them. Instead, the I scratch my back you scratch my own, or politics na njangi is more realistic to them, all this because of the man at the head of the SDF who rented his house to PMUC.

Watesih, my political philosophy is seemingly difficult for you to comprehend, that is why you deem it controversial. You lack the moral conciousness to understand basic philosophies and how they can be applicable to our struggle. Because our society is too complicated, effective management of our political culture and long term successes need that we continually focus on a flow of new theories that might be suitable for new circumstances and the future. Again, we might make some mistakes, but we might not eat our cake and have it. We cannot say boycoot of French goods, when we will be the first to rent our house to PMUC. If any of our scnc leaders does that, then we will abandon him. We cannot say, yes, we stand for unity with the French, when our language will not even be tolerated in a simple press conference by a ministers, when our parliamentarians will be told that they are Nigerians and no sanction is meted, when our children will be killed and unqualified francophones placed in their positions. When we focus on the ideologies of political gurus like NJFN from the Southern Cameroons, we tend to quickly realise that their political philosophies lacks the sophistication to qualify as a meaningful political thought. Conventionally, they resemble a political thought that has been propagated through some kind of cult religion that cannot be transmitted to any trusted political philosophy that can be taught to others.

Watesih, simply keep your SDF in la republique du Cameroun and leave Southern Cameroonians alone, otherwise, we will remain in the same level of humiliation in public places, something some of us cannot stand. Your seemingly “idea du jour” that is geared towards targeting opponents of your appointed guru’s like NJFN and Mbah Ndam are seemingly not paying off. Consider all what NJFN and his SDF has been preaching to you as a mere political fads as they have primarily disappeared in the political conciousness of right thinking people. Their seemingly political fads was a derisive ideology geared on exploiting our political wish, change, change and change. Such wish originated from a wind of change that was blowing through Africa, not necessarily fru ndi’s making. NJFN enthusiasm has waned and he is seemingly in hiding, with a low political moral and less conciousness. He knows, an Anglophone can never become president of that failed republic as they are not constitutionally part of it. They cannot also hold strategic positions in that country, like minister of finance, justice, territorial administration, defence, etc. who are the loosers? Those who believe in a union that never existed.

vito

Akoson,sir i doff my hat to you.so you're a staunch SDF supporter?I hope you dont have to swallow those words back sooner or later.Do take time off to reflect on trash you just poured out here.That's because i grant you the benefit of doubt.
So your question was addressed to watesih;do you know whose question i was answering?I guess it was reader's and the gentleman simply wants to know why you're so convinced an anglophone cannot rule Cameroon when afterall we have a francophone is ruling the southern cameroons.
Interesting isnt it?
So i fumble with words?i just hope my words donot reflect your state.Did you have a feeling i was describing you?
My good friend,hope isnt a strategy;neither is despair not especially when you employ the former on internet and the latter on the field.You become what reader just called a loser;the pitiful type that runs away from the fight then tells students on a peaceful demonstration to hit their Vice Chancellor on the head.
Gentleman do resume expounding your theories on the history of cameroun;history WE MADE,kid.
So you now need another AAC.Are you ok at all?i mean you had a bad day or what?So where will this AAC hold and who'll authorise it?
At any rate whatever you chose to do,know its in the best interest of the cause you claim to stand for that there be no war between the SDF and the SCNC because as you rightly said its election year.the SDF has weathered all kinds of storms and the only weapon that haxsnt been employed against it yet is the SCNC.We have a duty to avert that possibility.Do read the third reaction to this article and relate it to the issue at stake.Thanks

M Nje

“Chiefs of royal blood and gentlemen of our race, we have gathered here to consider and discuss a scheme which my colleagues and I have decided to place before you. We have discovered that in the land of their birth, Africans are treated as hewers of wood and drawers of water. The white people of this country have formed what is known as the Union of South Africa - a union in which we have no voice in the making of laws and no part in their administration. We have called you, therefore, to this conference, so that we can together devise ways and means of forming our national union for the purpose of creating national unity and defending our rights and privileges.”
Pixley Seme, ANC Founder.

It will be unfair to Alfred Mangena, Pixley ka I. Seme, D. Montsioa, R. W. Msimang, Nelson Mandela, and the ANC to simplify its struggle to that for Presidently power. The ANC was not formed to gain the presidency of South Africa. It was for the freedom of colored people. Freedom to vote, freedom of education, freedom of assembles, etc. Those are constitutional struggles, completely different from the objectives of an average political party.

Thanks

M Nje


The ANC was formed on January 8, 1912 (not as a political party)

Source: http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/history/unity.html#ch1

Watesih

Rexon,
I don`t speak for the SDF,I speak about the SDF.I have never pretended to do so,but you have been erroneously giving the impression that you speak for the SCNC.You have convened meetings on this forum, published their deliberations,sought for people`s telephone numbers,called for the use of sniper methods.But you fail to know that it`s thanks to the SDF,and Fru Ndi that you are today using the Postnewsline to propagate SCNC ideas.In your bid to speak for the SCNC you have proved to be a very Polarising figure.You have been unable to accomodate other`s views here,thus you resort to divisive tendencies.You have asked people like Agbormbai here to create their own websites to propagate CPDM ideas,and Agbormbai did,but everyone is surprised that you stick to the Postnewsline ,which got the right to exist from the fight the SDF unleashed against Biya,instead of creating a medium for your SCNC propaganda.You want to use primitive methods to shut others up,but you easily betray yourself,because you don`t know what you are fighting for.If you do,read your mind:"What i have realised in the past decade is that Cpdm politicians invest in destroying the SDF.They do this through bribing corrupt journalists to write bad things about the SDF( Muna, Ngwasiri,
Mbah Ndam etc),control councils through government delegates and secretaries to destabilise REALISTIC PROJECTS to be executed by the SDF.Then after doing all these ,they turn around and say they are better than the SDF,as the SDF would have been more corrupt had they taken over power
Aren`t you Cpdm guys stupid.Why don`t you guys MEASURE YOUR ABILITY TO GOVERN ON WHAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY DOING ,BUT ON WHAT YOU THINK THE SDF WILL DO IF IT TAKES POWER.And when anybody wants to complain ,they turn to the problems of the SDF,as if the evils that the Biya regime through its CPDM junta has done to Cameroonians has been energized by the problems of the SDF.How are the problems of the SDF CONNECTED TO THE THEFT, CORRUPTION, SHOOTING,FRAUD,UNDERDEVELOPMENT etc THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN LA REPUBLIQUE? You guys should grow up in your thinking.It is like you want us to legalise corruption instituted by La Republique,for some irrational reasons" .(Rexon ,December 14 2006) .Cameroonians judge for yourself whether this should be the same man who call SDF supporters fools,3 weeks after making such a mea culpa.He has now come clearly about where he stands," Your seemingly "idea du jour" that is geared towards targetting opponents of your appointed gurus like JFN,and Mbah Ndam are seemingly not paying off" You are not a member of the SDF,neither are you of any other party ,so how are Fru Ndi and mbah Ndam your opponents? Answer the questions you have posed above about your dear SDF,to your opponents of the Cpdm first,and thereafter try to extricate yourself completely from the SDF,before you can pretend to be what you are.

Eric Ngonji Njungwe

Hello everyone,

Please read PICAM’s recent press release on this subject entitled "Minister of Justice Should Resign or be Dismissed Immediately" on the Minister’s comment not to entertain questions in English. You can read the release from PICAM's website (www.picam.org), or by typing http://www.picam.org/DEM/demjustminisshouldresign.htm into your web browser.

Your can leave your comment at Cameroon Connection on this issue rephrased for debate as "Minister of Justice and the Vilification of Anglophone Cameroonians". You can get to Cameroon Connection by clicking on the appropriate link on PICAM's website or by typing http://picam.org/cameroonconnection into your web browser.

PICAM appreciate your debate on issues of concern to the country.

Sincerely.

Fon

Rexon,
"I call on all SDF fools in this forum to defend their soo called Unitary state here". You are are disgrace to other SCNC symphathizers because all that you write is to ruin the SCNC. Contact some of them privately and see if any of them will support this your vapidity.

If you cannot learn from Watesih, you will remain a fool for ever. What is your opinion about the following quotation?
"Today I`m ashamed that you guys accuse French mercenaries like the Hogbe Nlends of transforming Cameroon into a jungle,yet everyday you guys draw inspiration from them for political debate." So you took Hogbe Nlends to be God?

You talked of the SDF strategies of the 90s which included power to the people which is no longer heard of today; don´t you know that at a war front, strategies keep changing?
I don´t have time to waste again because Watesih has already addressed you to my satisfaction.

Fon

Article 1 (3) of the Cameroon Constitution (Law No. 96-6 of 18 January 1996)states as follows:

“The official languages of the Republic of Cameroon shall be English and French, both languages having the same status. The State shall guarantee the promotion of bilingualism throughout the country. It shall endeavour to protect and promote national languages”.

Likewise, according to Article 31 (3) of the Constitution, after the President enacts laws passed by Parliament, these laws must be “published in the Official Gazette of the Republic in English and French”.

"It is therefore inconceivable that Amadou Ali can pretentiously continue to function as the Minister of Justice after making comments that seriously affect his credibility and effectiveness in upholding the laws of the country. The Justice Minister of any country is supposed to be the chief guardian of the country’s Constitution, while upholding the principles of equality and non-discrimination in the administration of justice. Instead, the Justice Minister of Cameroon has become the main protagonist of discrimination, inequality, and slayer of the country’s Constitution. In such circumstances, the Minister of Justice can no longer be a legitimate enforcer of justice within the national territory of Cameroon and should resign his position immediately."

Human right groups in the country should take this matter to court if the justice minister does not resign and the President fails to dismiss him since he may be acting in collusion with the president. Eventhough the courts are answerable to him and the president, if this matter is taken to court, it will have a serious impact on the government irrespective of the out come.First the international community will know the issue better when it is being debated in court.
I call on Anglophones to make maximum use of this blunder of the justice minister.

BennyT

Watesih and Akoson, to paraphrase Ma Mary, could you please stop your quibling. It's not very instructive, and it's very distracting.

This, for me, is the deal breaker, in terms of continued unification in that troubled and misguided country of ours, if ever there was one. And how clueless of the Post to stick it where they have done -- at the very bottom of the pile!!! Don't these guys know a headline when they see one? Are these true journalists? For the Justice Minister, I mean, the JUSTICE MINISTER (!!!) to have come out with something like this would have spelt instant dismissal anywhere in the Western world. This is truly unbelievable. My big question is, why did the journos present all behave the way they did? Why didn't the Francophones journalists walk out, for starters, against this obvious garbage? Why weren't there protests (and I'm talking, furious protests to the point of completely shouting down that arsehole of a Justice Minister) from the Anglophones?

Even more importantly, where are the likes of Riccardo of CAADIM? Those who insist that we have to be one nation for internity? With no reaction or protest coming from Francophones (in particular!) how come anybody would want to insist Anglophones stay part of this sick union after all that is going on?

But, man, this coming from the JUSTICE MINISTER????!!!! Oh boy, we (Anglophones) are truly f*cked.

BennyT

Watesih and Akoson, to paraphrase Ma Mary, could you please stop your quibling. It's not very instructive, and it's very distracting.

This, for me, is the deal breaker, in terms of continued unification in that troubled and misguided country of ours, if ever there was one. And how clueless of the Post to stick it where they have done -- at the very bottom of the pile!!! Don't these guys know a headline when they see one? Are these true journalists? For the Justice Minister, I mean, the JUSTICE MINISTER (!!!) to have come out with something like this would have spelt instant dismissal anywhere in the Western world. This is truly unbelievable. My big question is, why did the journos present all behave the way they did? Why didn't the Francophones journalists walk out, for starters, against this obvious garbage? Why weren't there protests (and I'm talking, furious protests to the point of completely shouting down that arsehole of a Justice Minister) from the Anglophones?

Even more importantly, where are the likes of Riccardo of CAADIM? Those who insist that we have to be one nation for eternity? With no reaction or protest coming from Francophones (in particular!) how come anybody would want to insist Anglophones stay part of this sick union after all that is going on?

But, man, this coming from the JUSTICE MINISTER????!!!! Oh boy, we (Anglophones) are truly f*cked.

BennyT

My apologies for double-posting. In the first post, I spelt eternity "internity" and tried to correct it, but I don't think this site/blog has editing capabilities, so the damn thing was posted twice. Now let me go hang myself in shame.

Akoson

BennyT,

I've not written back to Watesih after having pointed out to him that he didn't answer my question. I just ask everyone to watch and see how the coming elections will be organised, how 2011 elections will come and go while we continue building our future on HOPES! I don't crucify people for HOPING but HOPE where there is HOPE!

I wouldn't talk on this again. I just enjoin everyone to talk back in 2020.

The SON.

rexon

Fon,

They, the hierarchy of the SCNC are in contact with me everyday and do appreciate my contribution to the struggle. Secondly, it is but normal for some SCNC sympathisers to be critical of my views as that is what democracy means to us. We are not like the SDF that will force its militants to pay unquestionable allegiance to NJFN.

Watesih and Fon,

If you have not found answers to ALL your questions above, then read my write-up again. You seem to claim to be intelligent but if you cannot decipher answers to your questions above, then you dont know where you stand.

Watesih

Akoson,
I answered your question.If you didn`t want to take the answer,then you wait for 2020 .Akoson ,we are really sick about the situation in Cameroon,but we must keep our feet on the ground.We can`t accept the fact that whenever the sad stories from Cameroon reach newspaper columns,people who are supposed to be responsible enough will just jump out and start branding Cameroonians who at least have stood up to Biya fools.Akoson,people like you,Tayong, Ma Mary have spoken your truth about our plight ,and what we have to do with a lot of seriousness ,but with respect.Nobody has been able to pick a fight with you guys.But there`s somebody here who thinks he can insult Cameroonians at will.We are going to soften him up ,and deny him that privilege.

Watesih

Akoson,
I answered your question.If you didn`t want to take the answer,then you wait for 2020 .Akoson ,we are really sick about the situation in Cameroon,but we must keep our feet on the ground.We can`t accept the fact that whenever the sad stories from Cameroon reach newspaper columns,people who are supposed to be responsible enough will just jump out and start branding Cameroonians who at least have stood up to Biya, fools.Akoson,people like you,Tayong, Ma Mary have spoken your truth about our plight ,and what we have to do with a lot of seriousness ,but with respect.Nobody has been able to pick a fight with you guys.But there`s somebody here who thinks he can insult Cameroonians at will.We are going to soften him up ,and deny him that privilege.

rexon

Benny T.,

Beautiful analysis of the situation. Those who want to hold southern Cameroonians hostage in that union that never existed are lying to themselves.

Someone said some writers are insulting others, when he spent the last week flip-flopping, insulting dadiceman and others when found guilty of undermining rape victims. wowwww

Delegate of Justice

Hi Guys,

I will call on you to read the well thought out press release by Progressive Initiative for Cameroon at www.picam.org or at http://www.picam.org/DEM/demjustminisshouldresign.htm. Articles like this help many Cameroonians understand what is at stake instead of arguing and insulting each other for no reason. This is not a place to write complicated English, just make the analysis without personal confrontations. I am getting sick of you guys who attack other here.

FON, next time you copy and past excerpts from articles or press releases from individuals or organisations like PICAM, acknowledge the source of that information. I though the quotations were your analysis until I read the PICAM article. Give credit where they belong.

M Nje

Article 1 (3) of the Cameroon Constitution (Law No. 96-6 of 18 January 1996)states as follows:

“The official languages of the Republic of Cameroon shall be English and French, both languages having the same status. The State shall guarantee the promotion of bilingualism throughout the country. It shall endeavour to protect and promote national languages”.

Fon thanks for this posting.

What Mr. Ali did was completely unacceptable. But I don`t think he violated the article above. The article does not explicitly or implicitly make both languages mandatory. It does not mandate government officials to be bilingual. “both languages having the same status” can mean many things.

Remember the official currency is in French. Which article did it violate? This is just to remind us that most of the laws that exist in the entity call La Repblique are for decoration. A good number do not protect the Southern Cameroons heritage.

Thanks

Klemenceau-Shalom

"I call on all SDF fools in this forum to defend their so called Unitary state here."

I strongly believe that Southern Cameroon can regain her statehood without the SDF. And I don't think the SDF will stop us from fighting for our freedom.
If the SDF was formed to fight for the freedom of Southern Cameroon and some of us feel it has failed, I think the SCNC and her sister organizations are good alternatives for the fight. Freedom fighters should rally behind the SCNC and chase the colonial junta from the Southern Cameroon.
We can’t afford to hang on the SDF and Fru Ndi for the problems of Southern Cameroon. The fight is not the SDF neither is it Fru Ndi. Attacking Fru Ndi always is like saying the Southern Cameroon is suffering today because of him. By accusing and calling SDF members fools is telling Biya and his regime to continue to give money to people like Mukete, the Ricardos, Ben Muna, and some money minded Southern Cameroonians to continue to preach hatred and division among us.
I would like to remind us that we might write and attack each other here but Southern Cameroon will never be free until we reach out to those who are fighting on the ground both financially and morally. Many have been beaten, lucked up by Biya's men and their families have spent to get them out of jail. Some need financial assistance and so on but we are on the internet fighting each other.

Have we been able to reflect on the reason why Bin Ladin and his followers are able to recruit many fighters? I guess you know the answers. Apart from the religious reasons, the families of those who die fighting for Bin Ladin and his ideas are heavily compensated. They are taken care of financially.
If we want to liberate Southern Cameroon by attacking each other on the internet, then I will conclude that we are day dreaming.
Shalom
Clemenceau

Klemenceau-Shalom

"I call on all SDF fools in this forum to defend their so called Unitary state here."

I strongly believe that Southern Cameroon can regain her statehood without the SDF. And I don't think the SDF will stop us from fighting for our freedom.
If the SDF was formed to fight for the freedom of Southern Cameroon and some of us feel it has failed, I think the SCNC and her sister organizations are good alternatives for the fight. Freedom fighters should rally behind the SCNC and chase the colonial junta from the Southern Cameroon.
We can’t afford to hang on the SDF and Fru Ndi for the problems of Southern Cameroon. The fight is not the SDF neither is it Fru Ndi. Attacking Fru Ndi always is like saying the Southern Cameroon is suffering today because of him. By accusing and calling SDF members fools is telling Biya and his regime to continue to give money to people like Mukete, the Ricardos, Ben Muna, and some money minded Southern Cameroonians to continue to preach hatred and division among us.
I would like to remind us that we might write and attack each other here but Southern Cameroon will never be free until we reach out to those who are fighting on the ground both financially and morally. Many have been beaten, lucked up by Biya's men and their families have spent to get them out of jail. Some need financial assistance and so on but we are on the internet fighting each other.

Have we been able to reflect on the reason why Bin Ladin and his followers are able to recruit many fighters? I guess you know the answers. Apart from the religious reasons, the families of those who die fighting for Bin Ladin and his ideas are heavily compensated. They are taken care of financially.
If we want to liberate Southern Cameroon by attacking each other on the internet, then I will conclude that we are day dreaming.
Shalom
Klemenceau

Fon

Delegate of Justice,
Sorry for your deficiency in the basic roles of the language. If words are in quotation masks,how do you take them to be my words? Go back and verify the article whether I did not put words that are not mind in quotation marks.
Next time avoid talking while sitting on your brain

Fon

M Njie,
You missed a crucial point in your analysis. Nobody is saying that the Minister should be bilingual but that the minister must tolerate both languages else the constitution is violated. If the minister neither speak nor understand English, nothing stops him from using an interpreter during his press conference.I emphasize that the bone of contention is not that we wanted the minister to entertain his audience in both French and English but that he banned the use of one of the languages in violation of the constitution of the land.

rexon

A founding father of the SDF, Feko honestly explained to us. The SDF created to liberate the Southern Cameroons, has been operating on falsehood. They have a plan to sell us to colonial agents of la republique. they want a four state federation, that gives limited rights to Southern cameroonians. They brought the Colonial Yaounde regime to the Southern Cameroons. They the SDF parliamentarians have been humiliating us in Camerounese parliament in Yaounde. They have been brainwashed and are being forced to speak french in camerounese parliament. Their leader in parliament, Mbah Ndam has been trained and indoctrinated in Yaounde. He qualifies to own la republiques passport and he is free to take it. They are now campaigning to bring la republiques ballot boxes into our territory. In their upcoming elections, we cannot tolerate that. They have been lying to us that they cannot come out in public to express sympathy to our struggle, when their spokesperson here have castigated honest minds like Akoson who stand for the SDF and SCNC ideologies.

The SDF political agenda is based on a false political doctrines: To liberate the Southern Cameroons.

Klemenceau-Shalom

Hey Mr Rexon

Your continuous attack on the SDF is not the way forward. As I said above, the SDF is not responsible for the plight of the Southern Cameroonians. Are you saying that Fru Ndi is indispensable as far as the liberation of Southern Cameroon is concern?
Please what you are doing is not helping the liberation struggle in any way. You better stop helping to create division in the struggle. You should keep on planning strategies on how to make the liberation fight a success rather spending time on the SDF and Fru Ndi.
You are giving the impression that you got something personal with the SDF and Fru Ndi.

When you talk of;

"They are now campaigning to bring la republiques ballot boxes into our territory. In their upcoming elections, we cannot tolerate that."

You make me wonder whether the SDF is the only political party that is preparing for elections in Southern Cameroon.
You seem to ignore the fact that with or without the SDF, Biya will still organize elections, and proclaim himself winner. Do you need to be reminded that there are hundreds of political parties in Cameroon? Do you need someone to tell you that there are political parties in the Southern Cameroon that exist only election is at the corner?
You have left those who have been killing, raping, extorting money and so on from Southern Cameroonians to attack the SDF and her leaders.
As I said before, if the SDF was created to fight for the liberation of Southern Cameroon and the leaders have misfired, why not stick to the SCNC, SCYL and others for the liberation?
Please we need strategies on how to liberate Southern Cameroon not the continuous talk how the SDF has done this or Fru Ndi has done that. If you continue this way then you will be consciously or unconsciously doing a disservice to the liberation struggle. We need ideologies not criticisms. Now that the SDF has failed in its mission to liberate Southern Cameroon as you claim, what is the next step? Has the SCNC also failed? If so then let us know.
Shalom
Klemenceau


Klemenceau-Shalom

Hey Mr Rexon

Your continuous attack on the SDF is not the way forward. As I said above, the SDF is not responsible for the plight of the Southern Cameroonians. Are you saying that Fru Ndi is indispensable as far as the liberation of Southern Cameroon is concern?
Please what you are doing is not helping the liberation struggle in any way. You better stop helping to create division in the struggle. You should keep on planning strategies on how to make the liberation fight a success rather spending time on the SDF and Fru Ndi.
You are giving the impression that you got something personal with the SDF and Fru Ndi.

When you talk of;

"They are now campaigning to bring la republiques ballot boxes into our territory. In their upcoming elections, we cannot tolerate that."

You make me wonder whether the SDF is the only political party that is preparing for elections in Southern Cameroon.
You seem to ignore the fact that with or without the SDF, Biya will still organize elections, and proclaim himself winner. Do you need to be reminded that there are hundreds of political parties in Cameroon? Do you need someone to tell you that there are political parties in the Southern Cameroon that exist only election is at the corner?
You have left those who have been killing, raping, extorting money and so on from Southern Cameroonians to attack the SDF and her leaders.
As I said before, if the SDF was created to fight for the liberation of Southern Cameroon and the leaders have misfired, why not stick to the SCNC, SCYL and others for the liberation?
Please we need strategies on how to liberate Southern Cameroon not the continuous talk how the SDF has done this or Fru Ndi has done that. If you continue this way then you will be consciously or unconsciously doing a disservice to the liberation struggle. We need ideologies not criticisms. Now that the SDF has failed in its mission to liberate Southern Cameroon as you claim, what is the next step? Has the SCNC also failed? If so then let us know.
Shalom
Klemenceau

espoir

"fear makes a man prisoner but hope sets him free".
i am not afraid to be a cameroonian rather am i ashamed to be one,on the contrary,i am 100% proud to be born a camerooian and its not my fault that i grew up to learn in english.what i dont care about is english as a language to identify me,but what i care about and uphold is my identity as a cameroonian.
"hope" and passion for our mother land would make cameroon a better place for all.so God loves cameroon and our faith and hope for a better live will set us free.together lets hope,because we believe in our country.united we stand divided we fall.
this issue of a minister of justice who because of his inability to controll his emotions,and ends up usiing words that puts the constitution in jeopardy cannot be tolerated.this is a man who is suppose to uphold the values of our constitution but instead he ends up violating the rights of english specking journalists who have a constitutional right to use english as stipulated by the constitution.
i strongly believe that it is the dudy of the president to suspend this man and open an enquiry to investigate this matter and take proper steps henceforth.if the president lets this man get away with this,without justice being done,cameroonians and especially english speaking cameroonians would read the situation as "the justice minister getting away with injustice"how pathetic.we shall be waiting to see how things unfold.peace.

M Nje

Hi Fon,
I got your point: that both languages should be entertained during office business. Maybe that was the legislative intern. That is left for the judges to sort out if the case is brought in court (if there can ever be free and fair).

That article 1 (3) gives room for a lot of flout behavior. Mr. Ali surely made use of that.

It is accustom for government officials to have interpreters during official business. That, I think, is a gesture not a legal mandate. The official currency is in French language. Where is the “same status” that is stipulated in article 1 (3)?

M Nje

““hope" and passion for our mother land would make cameroon a better place for all”
Espoir.

Mr. Espoir
Permit me say hope is not a strategy. It has not worked for 40+ years. It would`t. If you are from the Southern Camerrons territory then know that you are not a legal member of La Republique. I mean LEGAL. But if you are just a citizen of La Republique who learned English then you can keep hoping that things change in your homeland (La Republique Francaise Du Cameroun).

“what i dont care about is english as a language to identify me”
Espoir.

Mr. Espoir
Do you care if you are identify by your culture? If you do, then English is part of what identifies you. A language is part of a culture.

“Culture has been called "the way of life for an entire society." As such, it includes codes of manners, dress, LANGUAGE, religion, rituals, norms of behavior such as law and morality, and systems of belief” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture.

“i strongly believe that it is the dudy of the president to suspend this man and open an enquiry to investigate this matter and take proper steps henceforth.if the president lets this man get away with this,without justice being done,cameroonians and especially english speaking cameroonians would read the situation as "the justice minister getting away with injustice"how pathetic”
Espoir.

Mr. Espoir
We have heard this language before. We already know that no action will be taken. What happen to the investing into the killings in the University of Yaoundé strike, University of Buea 2005, etc etc etc etc.

Southern Cameroon is our land not that of La Republique. We will keep on the struggle until we have our nation back. We cannot be distracted.
Long Leave Southern Cameroons
Thanks

Delegate of Justice

FON,
It is not enough to put other peoples' words in quotation marks. You have to state the source. I could not know where you were quoting from until I visited www.picam.org. This is part of the article you copied without acknowledgement:

PICAM condemns the recent statement by the Minister of Justice, Keeper of the Seals, and Vice Prime Minister of Cameroon, Amadou Ali and call on his immediate resignation or dismissal for contravening the Constitution of the country. In a press conference held on January 5, 2007, the Minister of Justice declared without hesitation that he would not welcome questions asked in English. This statement is unwarranted of his status and a serious desecration of the Constitution he is entrusted to uphold and enforce.

PICAM would like to draw attention to Article 1 (3) of the Cameroon Constitution (Law No. 96-6 of 18 January 1996), which states as follows:

“The official languages of the Republic of Cameroon shall be English and French, both languages having the same status. The State shall guarantee the promotion of bilingualism throughout the country. It shall endeavour to protect and promote national languages”.

Likewise, according to Article 31 (3) of the Constitution, after the President enacts laws passed by Parliament, these laws must be “published in the Official Gazette of the Republic in English and French”.

It is therefore inconceivable that Amadou Ali can pretentiously continue to function as the Minister of Justice after making comments that seriously affect his credibility and effectiveness in upholding the laws of the country. The Justice Minister of any country is supposed to be the chief guardian of the country’s Constitution, while upholding the principles of equality and non-discrimination in the administration of justice. Instead, the Justice Minister of Cameroon has become the main protagonist of discrimination, inequality, and slayer of the country’s Constitution. In such circumstances, the Minister of Justice can no longer be a legitimate enforcer of justice within the national territory of Cameroon and should resign his position immediately.

Amadou Ali’s comment not only diluted the very essence of the Justice Ministry, it equally rekindled debates over the marginalization of the minority Southern Cameroonians’ whose case for separation seemed strengthened, the separation movement emboldened, and its legitimacy further confirmed from comment unbecoming of a Minister, let alone, the Justice Minister. Not only is the Minister’s moral authority at stake, his legal authority to defend and uphold any other laws of the country seems questionable in light of his flagrant violation of the highest law of the country...

Don't I have the right to ask that you to acknowledge your sources, rather than deceive people into thinking that you are the one making such good analysis?

tutmose

Mr Nje,

Why as an African person do you define yourself so much in relation to Europe...
Anglophone... La Republique...

I think we need to move away from that and start identifying ourselves as Africans first... Why dont we identify ourselves as Bakweri, Bakossi etc...

Like you pointed out in an earlier post,

“Culture has been called "the way of life for an entire society." As such, it includes codes of manners, dress, LANGUAGE, religion, rituals, norms of behavior such as law and morality, and systems of belief” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture.

is english the only language you speak?

Peace

limbeman

The imperialists must be having a big laugh as we continue to act like children and avoid any common sense. How can we, in 2007, continue to identify ourselves by the language of the slave masters and completely forget our real identities? Where is the evidence that English colonies have fared better than French colonies in the post colonial era?
Without question, Cameroon has monumental problems that require a revolution to address, but to think that these problems can only be resolved if it is split into an Anglophone and a Francophone Cameroon, is also a monumental blunder.
The same xenophobic, tunnel-vision proponents of such a seperation are going to be the ones who will be clamouring for a seperation of the Anglophone states because of ethnic or regional domination.
There has been a trial of an Anglophone state, first as part of Eastern Nigeria and later in the 2 state Federation with East Cameroun. Anglophone Cameroon is not a homogenous state and we must remember the monumental problems we had with the previos unions that brought us to this point, because a nation that cannot learn from its history is bound to repeat it.
We must see our diversity as our strenght and look for ways to resolve our problems within the status quo.

Akoson

Fellow Southern Cameroonians,

I leave you with an article I just got form PICAM's website at http://picam.org/cameroonconnection/?p=25 posted by one Jean-Claude on January 10th, 2007 at 2:06 pm. This is what the FROG who calls himself has got for Southern Cameroonians.

Enjoy!

Jean-Claude Says:

"I donot know why you anglophones are cry like this. You a Cameroun which Germany give Britain. In 1961, we take our country back from Nigeria so there is no two Cameroun. Cameroun is one and will remain one. The SCNC and SCYL which fighting for separation will never win. Speak French or go and stay in Nigeria".

I'll be right back with our Historical discussions.

Don't go away!

The Son.

M Nje

Tutmose
Thanks for the feedback. Africa no doubt is a victim of colonization. That intrusion into our land has changed our cultural mix for ever. There is nothing wrong if we identify ourselves as African. If I had a way to communicate (study, work, shop, etc) with the rest of the world with my native language, I will certainly never use the English dictionary. If I could study based on a native curriculum or follow only customary law for example, I will do so with no hesitation. I have no special affinity for European values.

I do not identify myself solely as an English speaking person, but that is part of my culture. For as long as a society continues to use the English Language, call the head of its university Vice Chancellor, take the GCE Ordinary and Advance level, follow Common Law, etc, it will continue to be associated with the Anglo-Saxon tradition.

My friend, if you can figure out a way in which “the way of life of our society” (culture) does not include any of these Anglo-Saxon tradition, I will passionately support you. Until then the English Language will continue to be PART of our culture.

Thanks.

Ndiks

Limbeman,
In which language was the fink,putrid cakehole minister rejecting questions in English?Did he specified particularly those Anglophones who want to be camerounians?Which language is he defending?French or Hausa?

espoir

mr.Nje,forget about this think of english as defining us as africans.u might as well say french is part of every cameroonians culture.we are african and cameroonianas.period.if u like u speak french,hausa,bakweri or what,the truth is we are africans and we should first identify our selves as african and forget about this french,english,portugeuse and german languages.
but not withstanding,since this foreign languages happy to be imposed on our predessesors and inheritated by us,we cant change the system because it is working so far.
that doesnt mean i will want to stand anywhere and say french or english is part of my culture.
my grand mother who taught me some cultural norms and values of our land,never spoke english and she wanted nothing to do with english.if u spoke english near her,u in trouble.
having said this,havent u noticed or observed that african all over the world share similar and unique ways of life no mather the colonial language they speak.
english to me is a medium for business.and where ever u are in the world,dont forget to let u children value their home languages or african languages before taking a colonial language for the seek of conducting business in future.dont let a fellow african ask u children one day "WHAT IS U HOME LANGUAGE?"and they respond"english"because people like u see english as part of u culture.i do not agree.peace.

M Nje

Mr.limbeman
Permit me say I think you missed a few points in your analysis.

“The imperialists must be having a big laugh as we continue to act like children and avoid any common sense. How can we, in 2007, continue to identify ourselves by the language of the slave masters and completely forget our real identities?”
Limberman.

Mr. Limberman,
I think those who identify themselves with the English Language have not forgotten their dentify. Rather, they acknowledge that the English Language and some of its traditions have become PART of their life. They still identify themselves as Bafaw, Bakweri, Bakoss, etc. You cannot follow the Anglo-Saxon way of life (in school for example) and run away from it at the same time. Rather, as an African, you make sure it does not overshadow your African values.

“The same xenophobic, tunnel-vision proponents of such a seperation are going to be the ones who will be clamouring for a seperation of the Anglophone states because of ethnic or regional domination.
There has been a trial of an Anglophone state, first as part of Eastern Nigeria and later in the 2 state Federation with East Cameroun Anglophone Cameroon is not a homogenous state and we must remember the monumental problems we had with the previos unions that brought us to this point”
Limberman

Mr. Limberman,
You rightly said that we had a problem with the Union with Nigeria and now this illegal Union with La Republique. Remember that after the problems our legislators had in the Eastern House of Assembly in Enugu in May 1953, which say the exposure of S.T. Muna, Southern Cameroons was granted simi-automomous rule. It was endowed with a House of Assembly and an Executive Council at Buea, its capital, and Endeley became the Leader of Government Business from 1954 to 1959.
He (Endeley) peaceful handed over power to Foncha after the 23 January 1959 general elections.
http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/journals/africatoday/aft47-2.html.

There is a history of exemplary democracy in Southern Cameroons. It has been done and it can be done. While one can recognize the heterogeneous nature of our society, there is no history of cultural divide that precludes us from existing as a Southern Cameroons state.

NB: During the days of semi-autonomous government Sotuherns Cameroons did not experiment any major problems. Our problems, as you stated, come when we join another entity.

Anyere

What we have in common as the opressed is more than our differences as either a member of SCNC or SDF. This is actually not an issue to be exercise in public as some of us have been doing in this forum. It is not and will never help us. It simply expose our ignorance.Dear brothers, lets use this medium to propose and contribute positively.
Ahmadou Ali's declaration was not a change in the states constitution but words from somebody who doesn't know what he is doing. For no reason should he go free. It is easy for Mr.Biya to decree him out as sending trops to stop rioting because of an irresponsible minister. I'm convince the price will be heavy high and if no response then can we constructive take another step to share ideas or would be reaction.
One of us because of anger termed us
"Internet freedom fighters". It's not an insault provided our ideas can be used by those who have the means. What has been the reaction of the leading Cameroon politicans expecially those of the English speaking provinces and more especially those of them who are members CPDM? We need to see them react violently to this and request the immediate sacking of Ahmadou Ali. If they haven't, then i wish to remind them to make haste . Nobody need to ask him to resign because he is not reasonalbe at all to think in this direction. just the fact that he can speak ENGLISH (fist language in the world)is enogh for us to know his level.
All the journalists, especially the anglophone journalists failed. They were supposed to ask him why English should not be used and continue their questions in English or all walk in protest. Non of them could be killed for any action protesting a minister for violeting a constitution. They are only good at analysing empty speeches. True journalists are bold. See them in Irak, Gaza, Kandaha, Beruit, Dafur etc. Ours are behind bottles of export waiting for an oportunity to attend meetings and copy speeches. Hope they will learn from our comments.
There is time for everything as one of us rightly said. Lets rush for it. We all know these names; Mumbutu, Samuel Dou Charles Taylor, Sadam, Milosovic, Abacha, Arafat -------.The list is long. They all took different miserable paths at the end of thier reigns. No two exits of the former self made giants are identical. More are still to come and i am sure we will all share a cup of palm wine when it's ours. We have our day in the making. Stop querreling because you might break your heads on that eve and eliminate yourself personally from the party. Once more waiting for the reactions of our politicians to Ahmadou Ali.
Is it easy to put down a tree by first of all cutting the subsidiary roots before reaching the tab root or the tab roots before the subsidiary roots? Identifying softs spots is a stradegy in many circumstances.
Derick

tutmose

What Ahmadou Ali did (if he did?)was totally out of order and I am sure that every citizen of Cameroon in his right mind would agree... And I agree that he should be dismissed from office if he did say something as discriminative as that...

But how does the creation of a new state (Southern Cameroons Republic) fit with issues of Globalisation and Regional Integretion?

The argument that Southern Cameroons has the right to self determination on the grounds that it is English speaking is not a valid argument because it failed to merge with Nigeria...

For me the solution to Cameroon's problems is Decentralisation... You seem to think that only Anglophones have problems because of the regime in place but thats not true. Cameroonians as a nation are all struggling, and that is why our children are all out of the country seeking better quality of life. Anglophones are not the only minority group in Cameroon. They are the one of many. There are Muslims, Albinos, Gays... who feel discriminated against...
I sincerely think anglophones and francophones can reconcile in Cameroon, because the one thing I know is that United we Stand, Divided we fall.

My idea of reconciliation is simple... Every single province should rule itself... Elect Governors and Councilors... Economy, Agriculture, Education and Health managed by Local Governments... Army, Foreign Policy to the central government...

There is no problem without solution... Your solution of Self Determination is not in the interest of Africa and African people... because it makes us weaker and more vulnerable to imperial powers, when we are still building a nation state... When you get angry with you brother, you don't disown him, you tell him you are angry and you sort out a solution because you can not change the fact that he is your brother...

Peace to you all
Panafricanly yours
Tutmose

Delegate of Justice

Tutmose
You wrote one of the most mature comments here. Your call for reconciliation may just be the best solution to Cameroon's problem. I will like to refer you to an article that I just discovered, "Constitutional Illegitimacy in Cameroon: The Illegal Annexation of Southern Cameroons" - at http://www.picam.org/Documents/Illegal%20Annexation%20of%20Southern%20Cameroons.pdf. This article is written by one ERIC NGONJI NJUNGWE. This guy gives you a clear historical picture of the anglophone problem and the marginalisation of anglophones. In his recommendations however, he rightly call for dialogue and reconciliation.

Ma Mary

Tutmose, I am glad you are comparing the situation to that of a family. As a sage Egyptian pharoah, and a grown man you live in your own house with your wife and kids. Your sister and your brother live in their own house with their own spouses. That does not mean that there is no family unity. Actually that family could be quite united.

But, if you, Tutmose took one of your brothers, ate his school fees, ate his inheritance and turned him into a slave in your house and your farm, that is what will end family unity. That brother of yours is in his rights to revolt, to leave that house and take care of his future.

Unity, my friend, your majesty is not supported by suffocating one party in the agreement in the name of unity. You also talk about dialogue. The oppressor is the one who has consistently refused to dialogue. So what do you want us to do? Keep talking to ourselves like a psychiatric patient who ran out of medication? Please, take stock.

It is not too late for la republique to end the relationship amicably. There will only be enmity and African disunity if the separation is not voluntary.

rexon

Delegate of Justice and Eric,

Permit me differ with you in your analysis of the Southern Cameroonian situation from the socio-cultural point of view. ones self is a cultural product and a producer of the meanings that constitute cultural patterns. In socio-cultural theories, people are thought to habitually select and integrate cultural disparate aspects of their identities, when such identities comforms to each other and are seemingly respecting each other. Creating a parralel structures that is based on new and powerful agenda's seemingly geared on eliminating the Southern Cameroons can only be stopped by a political conciousness that identifies strongly where one belongs. The case of the Southern cameroons is seemingly stronger as they are not legally and culturally part of la republique. In the current status quo, Southern cameroonians are being challenged to always integrate multiple and disparate frames of minds and are always in the process of becoming a "part of" and are pretentiously driven poor in "apart from" in the given cultural context. As they are being recognised as "apart from", they must stay underdeveloped, primitive, etc, because la republique thinks they are "apart from" the current socio-economic mindset (less educated, lazy, etc) that conciously and pretentiously influences development. All our problems will seemingly be identified from the point of view of the "apart from".

Home can never pretentiously be identified within the current socio economic frameworks. We need to belong, and develop and strengthen powerful values based on our southern cameroonian heritage. Then we can have home. At the moment, we have no home.

M Nje

“The argument that Southern Cameroons has the right to self determination on the grounds that it is English speaking is not a valid argument because it failed to merge with Nigeria...”
Tutmose

Tutmose,
Who made that argument? CAN WE KNOW THE SOURCE OF THE ABOVE ARGUMENT? The arguments for a Southern Cameroons state have a LEGAL basis, I mean LEGAL.

My did friend, read the article below very carefully. It gives you a STARTING POINT to access what 40+ years has done to Southern Cameroons. Submit any questions you may have through this forum.
Thanks


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THE TWENTY-ONE WOES OF REUNIFICATION OF THE TWO CAMEROONS: Reposted from a posting by:Prince Akame-SCIN
After 43 years of reunification (1961-2004) we (Southern Cameroonians For Independence) are now in the position to assess and say whether or not the thing, illegal or not, has been a blessing. If we find it a blessing then and then only can we think of continuing. If on the other hand we find it a CURSE it must be madness to contemplate a continuation. It is left therefore to those who still pretend to favor continuity under the present condition to reply by publishing their own list of the blessings which, but for reunification, we would never have had.
(1) CUSTOMS DUTY PAID TO FRANCE As a condition for granting independence to her colonies France was to benefit from all their imports from the date of their independence. For this reason a portion of Cameroon's import duties to this day accrue to France. Although we were never part of the French colony of Cameroon France has since Cameroon's reunification benefited from duties on imports into Southern Cameroons also. This mean that we have been paying extra custom duty for the benefit of French citizens even though we had never been their colonial subjects. This unjust enrichment of France at our expense could never have been made possible without reunification. It calls for restitution which is feasible only through the institution of an independent treasury and customs and excise services, which everyone knows are incompatible with a single nationality. Therefore to stop paying France and to get back what we have already paid reunification must first end. France herself should see it as immoral to receive payments for having done nothing and accordingly do the right thing without waiting to be pushed to it. (2) REPUBLICANISM OR MONARCHY? Traditionally Southern Cameroons is a kingdom. First because since every village is a Chiefdom or Fondom as each is headed by a Chief or a Fon, when these villages come together to form a Nation that nation should be called a kingdom or a United kingdom. To call such a nation a republic is incongruous and as such cannot lay claim to legality or legitimacy. Secondly, in recent history Southern Cameroons was a territory under United Kingdom Administration; it was as such part of the United Kingdom, and at independence should have reverted to its historical status of a kingdom. Because the Francophone Cameroonians have been brought up under the French culture of republicanism they used it to illegally convene Foumban conference and the weight of their population to extend their republican status to cover also the kingdoms of the Southern Cameroons and then imposed their commoner-ruler over the territories so illegally reunified. It is inconceivable that when a monarchy and a republic merge, if they can merge at all, the outcome should be a republic: it should be the other way round because it is Kings who rule commoners. The illegal Cameroon reunification of 1961 was therefore an affront to tradition like the subsequent coronation of commoner Paul Biya as Fon of Fons was an expensive joke indeed. (3) SECOND CLASS CITIZENSHIP Although the Constitution of the reunited Cameroon specifies that French and English are official languages and laws are published in the two so-called official languages it is always stated that the "French version is authentic". The Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary of Current English gives the meaning of "authentic" as "genuine; known to be true". This means that the English Language which Southern Cameroonians speak in the Republic of Cameroon and everything done in English is regarded as neither genuine nor true. When certificates are printed in French and English the French version is always first and in bolder print. This is clearly another way of telling the world that Southern Cameroonians are second-class citizens in Cameroon. So to be first class speak French. (4) CIVIL SERVANTS & POLITICS While under British rule civil servants in Southern Cameroons were not allowed to participate in politics. The civil service was insulated from politics. Civil servants were also not allowed to do private business and their assets were closely monitored. This made for maximum efficiency. The position was the reverse in Francophone Cameroon where by their independence in January 1, 1960 a civil servant, Ahmadou Ahidjo, was already head of state. Here again they used the weight of their population to banish our culture of a civil service insulated from politics. The result is the institution of a very strong bureaucracy which turns civil servants into masters rather than servants of the people, and giving them the liberty to engage in unfair business competition with the ordinary businessman who are notoriously pushed into the status of the "underprivileged businessman". With civil servants in power they make it their prime business to give maximum consideration to the needs of the civil servants and the military in complete disregard to the state of the nation's economy. Civil servant participation in politics is therefore an evil brought in by reunification which, according to Francophone culture, can end only with the end of reunification. (5) CHASING FILES IN YAOUNDE Before reunification Southern Cameroonians were part of a very large country called Nigeria. Our parents knew nothing about chasing files then. No one had to go to Enugu or Lagos to chase a file for anything's sake; and when regional autonomy was attained no one had to travel from the Southern Cameroons to chase a file. Although there were no computers everything worked with precision: provident fund or pension or gratuity was ready on the very day of retirement. Those were the days when many workers opted to retire and invest in private business. Today in reunification where civil servants are themselves masters of everything retirement is the beginning of frustration. This is an irony! Many die without tasting of the fruit of their life's savings! - not even after several pilgrimages to Yaounde! And when the money is finally paid those hawks who kept it pay no interest on it. The reunified Cameroon nation is far too short of being the guarantor of citizens' social security. It is a pity! (6) STATE DISHONESTY The National Electricity and Water Corporations as State corporations are allowed by the State to treat Cameroonians as if the said corporations have a right to pretend to be oblivious of circumstances prevailing in the nation. When the State is in arrears of workers' salaries for months, and in some cases for over a year, and in the end will not pay with interest or penalties, the above-mentioned State corporations not only refuse to take checks drawn on government-sponsored banks but go to the extent of charging penalties for late settlement of bills. Out of what do they expect the bills to be settled? And the argument cannot be confined to State employees. How about the farmers produce not paid for years and which will not be paid with interest? How about citizens who suffered tornado disasters since 1984 to date? When will the victims be paid? Why should a State remove its eyes from its responsibilities to its citizens? Why must the State under these circumstances allow its corporations to impose penalties on such suffering citizenry? Before reunification Southern Cameroons was an example of honesty and efficiency: it is the reverse today and most Southern Cameroonians are convinced that only an end to reunification can settle the issues. (7) LAKE NYOS Reunification opened up with politically motivated murders. Although Dr. J. N. Foncha was "MISSED BEING SHOT" Abendong and Marcus Temdia at least died in his place. The six who died during the pro-democracy demonstrations in Bamenda, May 26, 1990, only serve as a recent reminder. How many people are not convinced that the Lake Nyos disaster would not have happened but for reunification? The head of state invited experts worldwide to the scene but without letting them express their expert opinions he himself broadcast to the world that it was a "natural disaster". Could anyone dare contradict him by saying it was a neutron bomb test? Where is the Special Commission he set up to cater for the victims? These things serve the self-proclaimed "architects of reunification" right as they have happened so far in the Southern cameroons. Unfortunately some people are still so blinded by majority politics that they are a very long way off realizing that human beings are not cows, so their leadership cannot be entrusted to ganakohs (Cattle rearers) (8) REGIONAL AUTONOMY WON AND LOST! In mighty Nigerian politics Dr. E. M. L. Endeley led Southern Cameroons into achieving regional autonomy and first wore our premiership crown. Foncha took it from his head, wore it into reunification, and lost it there in 1972 - all with the House of Assembly and the House of Chiefs - thus placing us back at square one. How then can we see reunification as a blessing and not a CURSE? (9) C. D. C. MAKES NO MORE PROFITS Before reunification this giantt corporation yielded great profits annually, the surplus of which were used in undertaking development projects in the entire Southern Cameroons. These profits disappeared with reunification and today the corporation has become a liability rather than an asset. And C. D. C. will never be the same again until reunification ends. (10) MARKETING BOARD LOST The West Cameroon Marketing Board was changed to the National Produced Marketing as a national integration process in the reunified Cameroon. The headquarters was removed from Victoria in its founding province and transferred to Douala. A Francophone was appointed its Managing Director, Anglophones were declared redundant but were replaced by Francophones, its capital was mishandled by the reunification bosses and it was finally liquidated after they had used much of its capital in errecting an imposing head office building in Douala too good for the goose that laid the golden egg. The one thing which is certain with Southern Cameroonians For Independence - SCIN is that if the total value of the Marketing Board's head office building in Douala is not paid back into Southern Cameroons treasury our ancestors shall not lie quiet in their graves. (11) CHEATED OF OIL MONEY Reunification has been used to deprive us of even those benefits which nature had bestowed on us. The discovery of petroleum was made a secret. Secret oil transactions were rumouring with copies of huge cheques circulating. Deaths were related to leakages of information on the illegal oil transactions. A plan to construct a deep seaport at Cape Limbo was shelved and replaced by a plan to pipe petrol from Victoria to Douala for international shipping! Today the Republic of Cameroon is pretending to pay taxes petroleum into Limbe's treasury which is controlled by their treasurer. (12) ELECTRICITY CORPORATION LOST West Cameroon Electricity Corporation (POWERCAM) installations inherited from the Nigeria Government Electricity Undertakings have been totally dismantled to make Southern Cameroons totally dependent on supply from Edea in French Cameroons. When asked about the Menchum Project and what really went wrong with the Yoke supply, the answers one always get is that they are either "very costly to develop" or that "they are risky and irrelevant projects". (13) VICTORIA SEAPORT CLOSED The Victoria natural seaport was closed by reunification and the city became a ghost town to this day had the discovery of oil nearby not brought partial salvation. (14) BANANA TRADE LOST Before reunification banana was one of Southern Cameroons cash crop. Shortly after reunification private farmers in Southern Cameroons lost the trade even though east of the Mungo, especially in the Littoral Province individual farmers still plant them and market abroad. (15) UNCUSTOMARY DISTRIBUTION OF REVENUE The established custom in tradition as guided by AHON (also known as Ekpe or Nyankwe, Butame, and even in Nkwifor etc.) is that one eats as he contributes. As has been shown in the cases of C. D. C., Marketing Board, and petroleum, the improperly negotiated reunification has enabled the Republic of Cameroon in the name of a single fatherland to use the weight of their population to make themselves bosses over our wealth. We are now called upon to accept with thanks whatever they give us, and many of our kith and kin are paid to pass motions of support for the fraud. What a shame? (16) TIKO AIRPORT AND WHARF CLOSED Both the Tiko Airport and Wharf are closed by the accursed reunification. Tiko Airport turned to a military base to consolidate annexation and neo-colonialism (17) THE RAILWAY CLOSED The Meanja/Tiko railway has been abandoned by the disheartening reunification. (18) MAMFE ENCLAVED Mamfe town which, as Southern Cameroons gateway to Nigeria and was bustling with economic activity, was economically paralized by reunification. The Kumba/Mamfe/Bamenda highway was abandoned, forcing all traffic to pass through the Republic of Cameroon's Nkongsamba/ Mboudam highway. Mamfe has since become enclaved. (19) LAW ON SUBVERSION Ordinance No. 62-OF-18 of 12 March 1962 "to repress subversive activities" which made it a crime for anyone to oppose or criticize any government action was promulgated into law less than six months after reunification. Under it many civilians were heavily fined or imprisoned by Military Tribunals for doing what before reunification was a civic right. The right of detention without trial at the infamous BMM given to the Administration was an instrument of repression which became possible only with the advent of reunification. (20) UNJUST PENAL CODE Even though the penal systems are not harmonized Anglohones are often arrested west of the Mungo, transferred, detained, tried, and jailed east of the Mungo under a system totally strange to them. East of the Mungo confessions are extracted through torture. Because the accused is presumed guilty upon a complaint being lodged against him there is no question of bail. The magistrate may convict and make a "no appeal" order which is obeyed meticulously. Prisons are extremely over-crowded and the prisoners are underfed. They buy their own drugs or are left to die. Therefore the magistrate, police and the prison superintendent are Alpha and Omega. It is even an offense to ask a question in court! That is the side of reunification many Anglophones don't know, or have deliberately refused to know because they are busy as handclappers. (21) STOLEN RADIO TRANSMITTER In early 1994 it was discovered that a Frequency Modulation radio transmitter donated by the Japanese government for installation at Buea, Headquarters of Southern Cameroons, was instead installed at Douala! If your uncle inherits your father's estate and is using its proceeds to maintain only his own children, when you attain maturity what do you do? Of course, you take back your father's estate. In this case of the Republic of Cameroon and Southern Cameroons it is even clear that the so-called uncle is no uncle at all. The transmitter was easily stolen because of reunification. CONCLUSION The Twenty-One Woes of Reunification enumerated above are only a few out of many that cannot find space here. Knowing that we have achieved nothing through reunification which we could not have achieved without it, Southern Cameroonians For Independence - SCIN see that reunification poses a great problem needful of an urgent and lasting solution. SCIN is convinced that there can be no solution other than through negotiation on a footing of equality, that is, since the Republic of Cameroon is sovereign Southern Cameroons equally became sovereign States to enable them speak from the position of strength and not from weakness. Reposted from a posting by: Prince Akame-SCIN

http://www.postwatchmagazine.com/2005/11/the_twentyone_w.html

NB: DO WE NEED ANOTHER 40+ YEARS? Any Questions?

Reason

Everyone should read tutmose's comments on Wednesday, 10 January 2007 at 06:56 PM
The trend i continue to see is "us" bashing at each other and name calling on this website, how is that going to solve cameroon's problems? First i challenge you all to discuss and respect the fact that others will have different opinions. If we start with this, the rest of the puzzle with fall in place. RESPECT RESPECT. Many people tell me that "africans are respectful" Oh no! I think our lack of respect is the source of our problems. If we respected our brothers and sisters we would have never sold them into slavery; just looking in the past. I can cite many instances where if we had respect for one another, our decisions would have been different. If Ahmadou Ali had respect for the constitution he wouldn't have said what he did. So his fate by my standards is that he he doesn't believe in the constitution and should step down, or be fired. Period. Again if the regime officials have respect for the old, youth, disabled, working class, they would distribute the nations wealth evenly. I don't see this as a complicated process. IF the MP's have respect for the population they will enact laws, make changes necessary to better our society. Police officers beat up without investigation, take bribes, but fail to realize they or their immediate families could be potential victims of such actions also. Just to name a few

Anyone can do what this regime elements, oligarchs, police, tribalist (call them whatever you want) are doing.

I just wrote a paper about how an EFFECTIVE QUALITY assurance program can reduce human error. I learned that human error doesn't arise solely on their making but due to latent inherent factors in the system which would trigger errors that can be catastrophic without intervention at that systemic level. This theory is the Pyramid theory. Look it up guys. human error is equivalent to the narrow tip of the pyramid, but the broad base of the pyramid represents the latent factors that we ignore and stay there for a longtime. Any measures targeting human error will not solve the latent issues because the system is not designed to remove those latent factors.
people like paul biya, ALi, Fru Ndi, Nlends, Musonge, and the regulars function at the top and their mistakes are truly catastrophic and so easily visible but the fact remains that the problem lies within the structure of the system in cameroon.
The system can be summed again as RESPECT.

This should be strategy in 2007 for all Cameroonians. not fighting to rule, if our system is latent factors free, no one at the top can change it believe me

I think you all get the point I will leave it here but i'll be open to expand some more.

One Who Loves His Country

tutmose

Thank you all for your responses, they’ve been very instructive. Permit me to stress that I am no expert in the Southern Cameroon problem and that I have taken all the information you’ve all given me on board.
Before I proceed with my views on the subject, I would like to give you a little background on my perception of things and issues. For me Africa is always first. I like to think of myself as an Afrocentric. As Molefi Kete Asante (Afrocentricity: Revised 2003) puts it bluntly:
“The psychology of the African without Afrocentricity has become a matter of great concern. Instead of looking out from one’s own center, the non Afrocentric person operates in a manner that is negatively predictable. The person’s images, symbols, lifestyles, and manners are contradictory and thereby destructive to personal and collective growth and development.”
I believe like him that we have one African Cultural System manifested in diversities. And it is with that in mind that I reflect on everything.

Coming back to our discussion, I am going to gather as much information as I can before I can expand on my views on the matter.


To Delegate of Justice: Thanks for the article. It was very instructive…


To Ma Mary
Your response was thoughtful and funny. It made me laugh. Yes if I wronged my Brother so bad the family unity will definitely be broken and we would part company. You said in your analogy that my brother will be in his right to revolt, to leave that house and take care of his future. If he leaves the house, then he is into exile. Because the house is as much his as mine, we will need to find a way to sort our differences out but if he leaves the house then he’s left his due and he is the looser…
When we have problems, we need to confront them and sort them out. Like Malcolm X (Message to Grassroots October 10, 1963) said:
“Instead of us airing our differences in public, we have to realize we’re all the same family. And when you have a family squabble, you don’t get out on the sidewalk. If you do, everybody calls you uncouth, unrefined, uncivilized, savage. If you don’t make it at home, you settle it at home; you get in the closet —— argue it out behind closed doors. And then when you come out on the street, you pose a common front, a united front.”
What I mean dear sister is that, Kamerun is a German creation. The French and the British consolidated what they found. When Colonial powers had to leave they found a way to keep the system working. That way was to get some black faces to rule us. Ahidjo was a French agent as well as much of his entourage (including the Southern Cameroonian Leadership that made deals with him and with Paul Biya later). He did his job and Paul Biya is continuing it. The Cameroonian population is estimated at 17 millions today, and people are suffering throughout the country even in Ebolowa and Sangmelima. We need change and this change has to come from all Cameroonians and from within. It is a little naïve to think that if Southern Cameroon was independent everything will be rosy. I believe that Cameroon with all the diversity can come together and enact change. Christians, Muslims, Northerners, Southerners, Bakossi, Peulh, Bamoun, Bamileke, Batanga, Douala can create a beautiful, prosperous, and peaceful nation and may be change the name of the country to an African name… I might sound utopist but I am not I believe that it is the people that make society and it is the people that change things…
So to conclude I would prefer the brother not leave our father’s house, but to stay and fight for his rights.


To Mr M Nje… Thanks for the article, I am reading it and will get back to you on that…

Thanks for your comment Reason...

Peace to you all
Panafricanly yours
Tutmose

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