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Manga

http://www.simonmol.com/

AngloCameroonian

Be explicit.
Not only those who know him can offer help.

Ma Mary

These Polish people, I do not think they are trying to help this brother.

Mbu.B

Such a suspense! That is not the right way to leave people guessing.

If The Post can't tell us more, maybe a user who knows the face can tell us more.

It's strange to have such posting; a face,'help out' an email, phone number and nothing more.

katakata

ABRACADABRA!!!!

SO THE POST HAS STARTED GIVING US
PUZZLES TO SOLVE
RIDDLES TO UNRAVEL
JIG-SAW PUZZLES TO FIT IN PLACE...

YES A FACE, A NUMBER AND AN EMAIL..THE AIR IS RIFE WITH SUSPENSE AND CONJECTURES..


YET I THINK I HAVE SEEN THIS FACE IN A MECA-GERMANY BLOG ...

THUMBS UP TO THE POST...

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN YOU ARE FREE TO UNLEASH YOUR IMAGINATIVE POWERS..LET THEM RUN WILD TO SEEK FOR ANSWERS TO THE PROVERBIAL RIDDLE..

WONDERFUL PALAVA

Kappa

This is ridiculous!!!
Has the post also started "feymania"?
What kind of help does he need?
Anyway,from his looks I think there are many more peopele in Cameroon who need help better than he does!!
I should try this trick too when I get broke sometimes.

Kappa

This is ridiculous!!!
Has the post also started "feymania"?
What kind of help does he need?
Anyway,from his looks I think there are many more people in Cameroon who need help better than he does!!
I should try this trick too when I get broke sometimes.

vito

Hi folks, Simon is a Camerounian poet/journalist living in exile in Poland and top on the wanted list of the government for disclosing much on the dealings camerounian big guns in South Africa.A very fine poet if there ever was one.Well his last three girlfriends turned out HIV possitive some how and he was accused of knowingly contaminating them.That's the last i got on him.Cant imagine what kind of help he needs now.

Danny Boy

This is one of several postings on Camnetwork@yahoohroups.com; on the plight of our brother above.Please note, I am not the writer of this piece.
Filed under: Refugees in Poland — Rebecca at 7:04 pm on Tuesday, January 9, 2007
(Wersja polska poniżej)

"I wasn't going to write about Simon Mol. The case is a huge one in Poland; it has made the front cover of Rzeczpospolita and is all over the internet. It has become so big now though that I decided to straighten out my own thoughts and add a quiet word to the hubbub.


Simon Mol is Cameroonian refugee who has lived in Warsaw for seven years, an anti-racism activist, a journalist, poet and author, a playwright whose plays I have witnessed and even taken part in, a personality. That’s what he was anyway. Now, depending on who you talk to, he is either a ladies’ man who took stupid risks and could pay for it with an extended jail term, or an evil man, a man who knowingly seduced Polish women into having unprotected sex with him, all the while knowing he had HIV.


I have heard conflicting information about the case. He didn’t know he had HIV because the last test he had was negative - he has known he was HIV positive since the refugee centre he first lived in tested him. He doesn’t like wearing condoms – he explicitly refused to wear a condom saying it was a racist reaction by the women. He has infected around 100 women – four women have tested positive for HIV after unprotected sex with him.


I’ve known Simon since I arrived in Poland in May 2005 and if my assessment of his character is correct, he is not an evil man. He may be reckless, and is certainly capable of accusing others of racism when they disagree with him for any number of reasons, but using HIV as a deliberate weapon? That doesn’t sound like him. He has his fair share of critics as well as admirers but he is not the kind of person to do something so wrong, so terrible. I’m not totally naïve and I realise I could be wrong about this; people are complex. It is a serious allegation though, and one that could keep Simon behind bars for the next decade.


The women involved share some responsibility for the unprotected sex part of the saga, regardless of Simon’s reported dislike of condoms. Simon will be judged according to whether or not he knew about his HIV positive status, something that could be difficult to prove either way.


A worrying factor is the effect this could have on other refugees in Poland. There has been an outpouring of racist sentiment and raw hate on several internet forums, and the leadership Simon was providing, running a theatre group, campaigning on several issues, is gone.

The refugee association I came to Poland to work with originally was run by Simon and another man, Mr. Zuu. Both men are refugees from Africa, both are Polish speakers and both were driven by their desire to run an association for and by refugees. That was two years ago. Now, Simon is being detained for three months and faces ten years in prison, and Mr. Zuu no longer lives in Poland.

Refugees thankfully have other organisations in Poland to turn to for help, but Simon was a role model for many, and the self-help approach of the refugee association is surely missed.

Taking a more positive approach, issues that are not often talked about have been thrust into the spotlight by this case. Refugees, HIV, safe sex: these are not issues that have traditionally dominated the public domain in Poland, so increased debate and facing problems that have to some extent been ignored so far could be a positive result of this desperately sad case.
I will continue to hope that some good can come out of this."

Ma Mary

stupid question. What kind of help is needed?

Fon

"General alert: a Cameroonian in danger in Poland


For the past two weeks, I have been informed that, a 33 years old Cameroonian poet and antiracist activists, who is resident in Warsaw, Poland was under arrest. Why? According to my informant, whose name I won’t disclose, the arrested Cameroonian is accused by the Polish authorities of being a serial HIV/AIDS distributor. The accused person is believed to be called Simon Moleke aka Simon Mol. Until his recent arrest, Mr Mol was known for his slick writings and fight for the respect of Human rights in his host country. He is also the promoter and owner of one of the best, if not, the most popular literary and human rights defence web site www.simonmol.com in Cameroon. The arrest of Mr Mol by the Polish authorities of the city of Warsaw is according to my informant, based on the accusations of 4 of Mol’s 10 Polish girls. These girls claim that, Mol knowingly infected them with HIV/AIDS. But at this stage, such allegations can only be ruled as vague, for it is not known whether Mr Mol had HIV infection, the various which causes AIDS."
(eliesmith.com)
"From Grace to disgrace: the case of a Polish Cameroonian. ( Final Part)

The action of Simon Mol is unacceptable and if found guilty, he must be severely punished, but it is unfair for the sin of an individual to be spread on an entire race and on a section of the African continent, as I have read over some blogs. The glaring examples are these ones: http://moderntribalist.blogspot.com/2007/01/cameroonian-poet-and-journalist-exiled.html, http://panf.info/upload/showthread.php?t=1097 . Whatever must have forced Simon Mol, a brilliant writer, the bright hope of the literary renovation of English-speaking Cameroon, to act the way he has done is still beyond comprehension. What is certain is that, he was motivated by none of the logics that I have read on several blogs. It is not also because; he is /was a refugee. For he was not an ordinary refugee, he was a celebrity, supported by the crème de la crème of Poland. He was a holder of a Polish passport, thus making him technically a Polish citizen. I wonder whether he has ever gone through the thick and thin of most refugees in Western Europe.

He was lucky because, he had the support of the elites and journalists of Poland and others. He even had the luxury to practice his trade albeit in a country mostly known for her racists. Professional refugee journalists in Western Europe, seldom receive the aide he got in Poland. Most professional refugee journalists in Western Europe are piecemeal aided by western journalists. Hence to eke out a living, professional refugee journalists in Western Europe must shelve their pens or microphones for menial jobs. Consequently, it would be redundant for him to claim as I have read that, his action was borne out of revenge. The girls who slept with Simon were the new breeds of Polish and Eastern Europeans who defied the prejudices of their land and considered Mol like any other person.

But at present, because of Mol’s ignorance, stupidity or wickedness, (I really don’t know which adjective to use to qualify and classify is ignoble act), integration of foreigners, blacks and Cameroonians in particular, in an already assertive racist and bigot Poland and in the Greater Slavic countries will be slowed, but fortunately, not stopped. That is perhaps why this blogger: http://beatroot.blogspot.com/2007/01/racists-enjoy-mol-hiv-case.html wrote that, racists are having a field day with the Simon Mol HIV case. Simon Mol is a lost to Polish progressive minds and also to English-speaking Cameroonian literary scene in particular and Cameroon in general.

The English-speaking Cameroonians literary scene is still manned by old guards such as Martin Jumbam: http://www.martinjumbam.net/ , active firebrand writers such as Bate Besong: http://www.batebesong.com/ and Mbella Sonne Dipoko. These writers are spoiling for successors and I think, they appreciated Simon, but now, he has let every one down. I was yet to see a luminary English-speaking Cameroonian writer such Mr Mol. He was young, bright and brilliant. Currently, I look at Simon like a devil, he is attractive but malicious. I think it would best for Simon Mol to gather the same courage he allegedly used to spread the virus to apologise for his dishonourable deed. It won’t change the fate of his victims, but will console them and show his human and humane face. Yes, Simon Mol is a human being.

There is another side to Mol’s case, it is a wake up call to those who had put down their shields and were in romps of unprotected sex. It is also a call for sexual abstinence and a return to basic moral rectitude. Finally, it would be best for people to visit the West African state of Cameroon, the original home of Simon Mol. There, they will discover a different set of people with a vibrant academic life, especially in the English-speaking part. "
(Elie Smith)
The question remains: What kind of help can we give him?

Fon

The Simon Mol case is much more complicated than what the sensationalist tabloids are making it to be. Read on:
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With a million opinions chasing very few facts in the Simon Mol case, I have tried to piece together what are the facts of the Simon Mol case as found in the polish police reports, press and cyberspace.

First, the facts as presented by the Polish police on its website (Note that this is the only official statement on the incident, the rest – both pro and con – is merely speculation or spin). The report from the Polish Police is a fairly straightforward one:

After a number of women showed up in a clinic with a "very resistant African strain” of the HIV disease, and all claiming to have had sexual intercourse with a certain Simon Mol, the police were alerted. According to the police website, “Examination carried out on request of the police and the prosecution has already confirmed, that the man is the virus carrier.” Based on this evidence, he was charged with “seriously harming the health by HIV infection, for which he faces up to 10 years prison penalty”. Also the court ordered that he should be jailed for three months (that is, the maximum time that Polish law allows someone to be held while charges against him are being investigated/confirmed). The courts also decided that his name and picture be made public and asked all women who had sexual relations with Simon Mol to come forward.

"source": http://www.warszawa.policja.gov.pl/?page=Structure&id=8&nid=3725

That is the official story. The rest as it appears in polish newspapers and blogs is a miasma of contradictory and sometimes outlandish and laughable news accounts which are given a particular twist depending on one's ideology. Yes, in Poland this is really a political case more than anything else which has opened a very strident and divisive debate over issues such as immigration, racism, multiculturalism, stereotypes, political correctness, fascism, racial purity, etc.

A survey of Polish press reveals the following conflicting versions of events:

1. Simon Mol was HIV positive but did not know it because he has never taken an HIV test/ Simon Mol and “his friends in the Polish government” knew all along about his HIV status because he was tested at a refugee camp 7 years ago when he arrived in Poland.

2. Simon Mol is a reckless fellow or a nutcase who did not like using condoms because of – take your pick – (catholic) religion, "leftist" ideology or “bush African mentality / Simon Mol is an evil person who deliberately did not use condoms because he wanted to spread the disease.

3. He has infected 4 women (police) / he has infected 14 women (Polish blogs) / he has infected at least 100 women (German-owned Polish Newspaper).

4. Simon Mol refuted the accusations when confronted by a Polish TV journalist in his cell / Simon Mol has confessed and claimed that he did it because "he hates whites”.

The Simon Mol case involving Poland’s most celebrated refugee and activist, the darling of the Polish media and European leftist groups, has raised immense passions in Poland and beyond. In fact, in many quarters, Simon Mol has become a symbol of everything that is wrong with the “mixing of the races” (See for example, comments on a white supremacist website in response to a posting titled “Cameroonian nigger infected hiv womans in Warsaw” at http://www.panf.info/upload/showthread.php?t=1097

The Polish media too has played the race card to the hilt, pulling out all stereotypes about sex crazed Africans who carry all sorts of diseases – theories backed by professors from reputable Polish universities – see for example an article from one of Poland’s leading newspaper rzeczpospolita http://www.rzeczpospolita.pl/gazeta/wydanie_070109/kraj/kraj_a_12.html
A website has even been created whose goal is to start a campaign to “erase all traces of simon Mol’s writings, activities, statements, humanitarian activities from the Internet”.

Those who know him, have worked with him understandably are less inclined to go with the crowd. Writes, Beatroot, Poland’s leading English language blogger:

“Anyone who knows Simon – and I have met him several times – finds these accusations incredible, in all meanings of the word.

He is described in the newspapers as a sensitive, intelligent, educated person – and that’s exactly how he seems to me. He is here as a refugee after being persecution in his own country.

Since being in Poland he has played a very active part in various anti-racism campaigns, has had books of poems published and plays put on in the theatre. He has also been a tireless worker with other refugees and those seeking refugee status in Poland (governments here have been completely unprepared for these people, so someone has to help them).”

...

So where does the truth lie? I will go for now with the Police report which essentially says that (a) Simon Mol is HIV positive (2) a number of women have accused him of knowingly infecting them with AIDS (3) the police are carrying on with their investigations but (4) he is being detained for three months pending the outcome of the investigations in conformity with Polish law.

With that out of the way, I cannot resist not making a personal comment about this case – No bullets in my direction please, just my opinion!!!! I cannot help but go back to that ferocious denial that Simon Mol posted on his blog. I have reread the piece at least thrice since gaining access to the reports from Poland , and as surprising as this may sound to some, that posting clearly tells the world how Simon Mol could have been HIV positive without having a clue:

He writes:

“My first visit to a hospital here was four years ago, after I was attacked by a gang of skinheads. I had never been to a hospital to complain of headache otherwise, let alone do an HIV test. People do the test when they have a reason to.”

"Question": How many of us on this forum just wake up one bright morning and say to ourselves; “Wow! I feel great today. I think I should go take an AIDS test”? Very few if any. Which is why we always hear about some celebrity or politician begging people to take the HIV test. So it is possible that the guy had HIV and had no clue.

He also writes:

“With all what I have been through; sleeping in a conference hall for 18-months in Ghana, fighting a nightly battle with mosquitos, spending six weeks in detention there, spending another 18 months at an asylum centre here under appaling conditions, and under my current state; running around to make ends meet, not being in a state to provide for adequate food, living in an under-heated flat with the temperature hitting sometimes below –20 degrees, writing non-stop, organising events here and there, struggling to build a theatre company, I wouldn’t be able to fool my body for long as these efforts require enough energy to keep a race-horse going for years. If I were HIV positive I would be dead.”

This statement stems from a common fallacy, reinforced by those early pictures of shriveled AIDS patients, that everyone with HIV must be bedridden. The doctors in the house can help us here, but is it not possible to function normally without retroviral drugs even if you are HIV positive? Is it possible that the “symbols of his normalcy” may have successfully masked Mol's disease even from him?

So Simon Mol may have honestly believed in February 2006 that he was "Clean”. No one can be condemned for that. However, I will have a major problem with the man if it turns out that he had unprotected sex with any of his accusers AFTER the first anonymous accusations surfaced early last year. That will not only be a sign of the recklessness which the Mukefor bemoans but will be criminal. However, if all these relationships date from over a year, then….

If Simon Mol is guilty then he should be punished according to the law. Given all that has been written in the Polish press, the chances of a free and fair trial look quite remote to me. Nonetheless, my hope is that if he ends up in jail, it should be for a crime that he truly committed, and not because he was one of those millions of men who like their sex to be “natural” _Etuta ntuta! as Kofi Olomide once put it back in the 1990s_ or because he unknowingly infected "educated Polish girls" as the Polish media keeps on insisting...

That's all for now folks, until another official Polish police report becomes available.

(Manga Che)

tayong

Watesih,Fon,Akoson,Muki,Klamanceau,Fruntah,
Kganjo ,,,,and all SDF diehards in here.

Gentlemen, hell is breaking loose over your Chairman in Cameroon . The news is all over, all the FM stations in Douala, Bamenda,Yaounde, Bafoussam, all the news papers; Mutations,La Nouvelle Expression, Le Messager , in beer parlours ,in taxis even by the roadside. It may be time to get the details of the story in order to save your chairman if you can.

What is the News?: That John Fru Ndi persoanlly received 20million francs CFa from from the Director of Civil Cabinet sent by Biya to refuse any coalition with the other opposition parties during the 2004 presidential elections. The place, the Hotel, and the Director himself testifies he did give the money. Investigations are underway. So far no reaction from the SDF. So guys save your Chairman if you can. Nothing personal or against him but simply passing across information.

Here is the information as reported by Mutations.(Hope you can manage some french)
Good luck with the party guys.
Tayong ,on vacation from politics.

Présidentielle 2004: Paul Biya a-t-il remis 500 millions à Fru Ndi?


YAOUNDE- 22 FEV. 2007
© Xavier L. Deutchoua, Mutations


John Fru Ndi accusé d’avoir perçu 500 millions de Fcfa lors de la présidentielle de 2004 pour casser la dynamique de l’opposition ? Retour sur ces histoires d’argent qui polluent l’atmosphère autour du chairman du Social democratic Front.

L’affaire provoque un chahut dans les bureaux, à l’intérieur des taxis, sous les chaumières, et plus encore sur les ondes des radios Fm de Yaoundé, de Douala, de Bamenda et de Buea. John Fru Ndi, le chairman du Social democratic front (Sdf), a reçu 500 millions de Fcfa du pouvoir. L’argent lui a été porté en main propre, "dans une mallette", par Edgard Alain Mebe Ngo’o. Le délégué général à la sûreté nationale était alors, directeur du cabinet civil de la présidence de la République. Selon le commissaire principal Junior Christophe Zogo, qui affirme avoir accompagné le missi dominici du chef de l’Etat au Djeuga Hôtel pour remettre le magot au leader du principal parti de l’opposition, le pognon était destiné à arracher le départ de Fru Ndi de la Coalition pour la réconciliation et la reconstruction nationales (Crrn) mise sur pied dans le but de battre Paul Biya à l’élection présidentielle du 11 octobre 2004. Cette dynamique de l’opposition semblait, contrairement aux précédentes, partir sur de bonnes bases, parce que conduite par deux des leaders de parti les plus en vue au sein de l’opposition, Adamou Ndam Njoya et John Fru Ndi. Les deux partenaires s’engagent à éviter les erreurs des regroupements précédents. Ils sont rejoints plus tard par Issa Tchiroma Bakary de l’Undp, Mukuri Maka du Mdp, Antar Gasagay de l’Upr, Jean Pahai du Ppc, Hogbe Nlend de l’Upc, Célestin Bedzigui de l’Undp et bien d’autres responsables de partis et d’associations.

Candidat unique

Pour prouver leur accords et susciter l’adhésion de leurs militants et sympathisants à cette dynamique, une tournée des leaders de partis à travers les provinces est lancée. Vient le moment décisif. Les partis arrêtent les critères à remplir par le candidat unique. Il doit notamment s’exprimer dans les deux langues officielles. Le front anti-Biya commence alors à prendre de l’eau, John Fru Ndi ne remplissant pas la condition du bilinguisme anglais/français. Mais il ne se démonte pas et continue à prendre part aux travaux. Jusqu’au 14 septembre 2004.

Ce jour là, la commission de sélection des candidats siège au quartier général de l’Udc au lieu dit Montée Ane rouge à Yaoundé. Commencées à 11h30, ses délibérations s’achèvent le lendemain, 15 septembre, au petit matin, à 2h, par l’adoubement de Adamou Ndam Njoya. Auparavant John Fru Ndi aura quitté la salle des travaux, au motif que la procédure de désignation, comportant sept phases préalablement définies, n’a pas été suivie par le président de séance, Issa Tchiroma Bakary. Fait troublant, Tazoacha Asongany, le secrétaire général du Sdf et secrétaire permanent de la Crrn, Pierre Mouafo, secrétaire permanent adjoint de la Crrn et Pascal Zamboue, président de la commission des stratégies de la Crrn, votent pour Ndam. Ils sont pourtant responsables au Sdf, le premier occupant même la fonction stratégique de secrétaire général du parti.

Fru Ndi est-il passé à la caisse? Rencontré hier à son domicile de Yaoundé, le mis en cause hausse les épaules. "On vient de me rapporter les accusations médiatiques de trois commissaires de police qui se seraient exilés au Canada. Pourquoi ont-ils besoin de fuir le pays pour m’accuser? Je constate que le Cameroun a encore beaucoup du chemin à parcourir en ce sens que des policiers censés combattre la corruption avouent ouvertement être des agents de la corruption. S’ils ont reçu des valises d’argent pour moi, je les attends toujours. Mais ils doivent savoir que malgré leur départ volontaire en exil, ils sont passibles de poursuites devant la justice internationale. Je suis enfin triste de constater que le combat démocratique au Cameroun se résume aux affaires d’argent que Fru Ndi aurait perçu lors du décès de son père, à la Cambank, au décès de ma mère, etc."

Djeuga Hôtel

Dans un communiqué publié mardi dernier par Cameroon-Tribune et signé de Victor Ndocki, le secrétaire général de la Délégation générale à la sûreté nationale, cette "révélation" est qualifiée de "campagne de désinformation contre le Dgsn" ourdie par trois ex-commissaires. Ecrivant au nom de Edgar Alain Mebe Ngo’o, il "fait connaître à l’opinion nationale que les faits ainsi relayés, non seulement sont dénués de tout fondement mais aussi sont le fait d’individus révoqués des cadres de la sûreté nationale au terme des procédures disciplinaires régulières". Le récit de cette affaire de corruption soulève quelques questions troublantes.

Certes, un policier peut travailler à la présidence de la République, mais le dénonciateur n’explique pas comment il s’est retrouvé dans la même barque que Alain Edgard Mebe Ngo’o, qui n’était pas le chef de la police au moment des faits. A-t-on besoin de témoins pour mener une opération aussi ténébreuse? N’y a t-il pas lieu plus discret que le Djeuga Hôtel pour des telles tractations maffieuses? De quel poids pesait l’opposition en 2004 pour constituer une menace au régime Biya? N’était-il pas plus simple pour le pouvoir de démembrer la Coalition en invitant les petits partis à la table? Pourquoi les langues se délient-elles aujourd’hui seulement, alors que ces précieuses informations discrètement confiées aux médias en 2004, auraient mis le leader du Sdf à nu et définitivement établi son improbité?

Watesih

Fon,Vito,Dannyboy,
Thanks for keeping Cameroonians abreast with this eerie story.
Ma Mary is surely going to carry the women`s flag higher since all the men have been caught offguard.We now see why details were not posted here when they solicited help.It is because of the overwhelming evidence involved.It is very difficult to pass judgement on moral issues,but we cannot be blind to these facts:
1. That the strain of HIV he carried was African.Did we learn lasttime that Aids originated from Cameroon,or some racist undertones here?
2.That there`s no longer any hiding place for Africans in the world.
3.That the Country Cameroon is more and more presented to the world as a Country of ill-bred,and sick people.
4. That it is very difficult to victimise the whites out there.If you tell them that you did something ,because you hate them,then you will pay a price for your impudence.Eto`o Fils the only Ambassador Cameroon has out there now is paying a big price these days for standing up to whites in their fief.
5.When you are too involved in societal affaires,you will surely run into speedbreaks.
6. Initially,Simon might not have been at the origin of the disease,but the simple fact that he had 10,15,100 girls gives the probability of him contracting it from one of them.
7.If he had one girlfriend,and contaminated her,the repercussions would have been less.
8. With things like these,the redheads out there in Russia ,and Eastern Europe are going to literally exterminate all the blacks they come across.
One thing is that no one will rejoice for his misfortune,but Cameroonians around the world rather have to face the fallouts of this shame.

Watesih

Hahaha Tayong,
Your French leaves much to be desired.I will have to give you some classes,and because you are my man i will only take 500frs an hour.Others pay 1500frs.Newspaper reports talk of 500 million,but you talk of 20 million.Tayong read between the lines and this is what you will discover:
1. The Commissioners who made these salacious accusations are all in exile.They are the guys who extorted money from some young French women,and were sacked from the Police.They promised to fight back.You know Mebe Ngoh personally stripped them of their functions.
2. Tayong,Fru Ndi did not serve as danger to the Opposition,because they had modalities for the designation of a unique candidate.
The candidate had to be bilingual.Fru Ndi is not ,so they chose Ndam Njoya,and he went in and was beaten.Did taking 500million going to make Fru Ndi bilingual?
3. Since 1992,the opposition has never served as a threat to Biya,because he had already put his rigging machine in place.
All those guys who wanted to form a coalition in 2004 with Fru Ndi had already rigged elections with Biya,so when they started their antics of being bilingual,Fru Ndi knew it was a ploy to sideline him,so he walked out.
4. Tayong if these fugitives had not promise to deal with Mebe Ngoh,we would have lent credence to this loud sounding nothing.
Finally,Fru Ndi remains the number opposition political figure of all times in Cameroon.If stories are coming up,it is because people always want to shock him,especially now that the Betis know power can change hands if they don`t use all types
of unorthodox methods.Something happened in 2004,but fools who wanted to rape tourists
shamelessly start talking about it today from their hiding place in exile.Tayong i know about these Commissioners since last year.

Watesih

FACTS
On September 4th 2006,three Police junior Commissioners were sacked from the Police corps ,because of their involvement in some financial malpractices involving female tourists.They went on sel-exile to Canada.On
February 18th,the called two of the many FM stations in Douala ,and made public the creation of the political party,FRONT NATIONAL POUR LE SALUT DU CAMEROON.The initiators are disgraced commissioners Leopold Ebene,Junior Christophe Zogo,and Kergnine Kerbai.Their spokesman Leopold Ebene 32 years old is an adopted son of Andze Tsoungui.On february 18th,and 19th he called the radio stations ,and said Edgar Mebe Ngo`o called him up,and praised him for his seriousnese,and hardwork.He said Mebe Ngo`o said he wanted him to work at the Presidency,so he could fill him in on the Head of State`s daily activities.He said Mebe Ngo`o asked him to come and see him for initiation.He asked the bigman to give him sometime(10 days) to ponder over this.When he got back to Mebe ngo`o,he confided in him
his desire to move from Delegate General for National Security,to Secretary General at the Presidency,and finally as boss of the Ministry of Territorial Administration at all cost.He also made salacious declarations about some homosexual networks.He also talked about Mebe Ngo`o taking 500 million to Fru Ndi to breakup the opposition coalition.
NOT SURPRISING
1. Commissioner of Police at 32 years.
2. Adopted son of Andze Tsoungui
3. Formed a political party to play out
their rancour
4. Out for individual vengeance
5. Needs a high profile figure like Fru Ndi
for their accusation against Mebe Ngo`o
to look real.
6. Milestones of Beti hegemony in Cameroon.
7. All criminals.

tayong

Watesih
Yea I realised the mix up in figures later. It was 500 not 20 milion.I sent this info in a rush to catch up with some imperatives. Even if my french is bad , at least not with figures. This info is rumbling, wrapping and waffling and needed diehards SDF men like you to know reasons i decided to chip it in here even in a hurry.
Good luck with the party.

Its vacation from politics for me.
Tayong

Fon

Watesih,
Thanks for throwing some light on the fake story. Only the gullible will believe that kind of fuss.

Many events back home have shown that Biya and Fru Ndi do not have any relationship;we saw how Biya use d the Deboule Gregoire death to ridicule Fru Ndi and the SDF detainees are still in detention without even a charge.This shows clearly how Biya wants to bring down the SDF.

tayong

Watesih
Sometimes you sound funny to me. Everywhere in your write up you addressed Tayong. I told you I brought in this so that those SDF insiders like you either issue a rebuttal to the world and clarfy any masterminding rather you went addressing Tayong everywhere as if I'm the originator of the story.

I told you the story is making headlines in all major media houses in Cameroon right now , both print snd audio media. Dont be so given to confrontations such much that you can't distinguish between a reminder and rejoinder anymore.

Good enough you realised latter and issued some form of rebuttal and not addressed Tayong everyhere. This is even the first time I got wind of the story so more rebuttals are meeded Mr Watesih et co and the air needs to be cleared to avert the damgaes done so far.

Cheers,
Tayong

Watesih

Tayong,
I did not realise anything later.Those are the facts that were left out in the previous write up,so i deeemed it necessary to bring them in.Tayong you are among the people in the world who have to read the so call rebuttal you expect from us,that`s why i kept pronouncing the name Tayong.By making it very personal that we had to come out and save "our" chairman,so i just had to make it a little personal and address my concerns to the world through you.We are surprised you have retired from politics ,but you still want to read more political rebuttals from us.Keep behaving like a man who wants to cheat his barber.

AngloCameroonian

Wherever you are & in whatever you do, you portray the image of Cameroonians. Your actions & behavior can make it easier, difficult, dangerous or impossible for fellow Cameroonians that will come after you.
This Pandora’s Box, or whatever that the post has published for Simon Mol is derogatory to Anglophones in particular Cameroonians in general & all blacks. It kind of show that we cordon with his recklessness
I have made my own research & made my own conclusions. In my humble opinion if he was a true poet or activist he lacked sanity. Promiscuity is not a value we can attribute to someone who is fighting to protect others. Saying he did not know is status is an irresponsible claim.
His action has thus exposed refugees & other blacks particularly Cameroonians to victimization. Those with non African partners (me included) will start having problems putting their studies, jobs & lives at risk Worst of all some Cameroonians in Poland go as far as posting videos in Youtube to show their exploits with girls calling them whores. They proudly say they are from Cameroon the football nation, roger milla, Samuel eto’o. They are basking on the glory of others who cannot even take sides with them.
As far as sex is concerned that is what will always strip a great man of all his values:
We know of the teenage black American who sparked world attention for standing up for her right, but it later died down b/c she turned out to be pregnant; Clinton & even Jacob in the bible.
When we do such things outside we turn back home & blame politicians. We are not better. I am working now & my attitude will determine where the HR can consider a CV from a Cameroonian.
All those predicting the doom of SDF, bring in a sex scandal & all the takumbeng women….you know what will happen. We should be able to denounce wrong paths; even the republicans are criticizing their own administration.
Please stop marginalizing ourselves. Let justice prevail for his case with no bias. We should stop blaming the whites for racism when we clearly insights it. All white girls no black!!! Why!!!!!!!!!

NB / Lets be orderly and comment where it is necessary, I don’t see how the SDF and 500m fits in this column. This is a serious issue and such blocs distract the mind.

Ma Mary

Comments are not helpful here one way or other. It looks like a trial by internet, in a pending legal matter. Contact the email address up there and find out what this is about. This is one case where there is no need for a comments section. It is more like a classified ad than a news story.

Meanwhile you all always protect your male apparatus with a condom, regardless of your HIV status. Its been said millions of times. Perfectly intelligent men still don't do it. You are of flesh and blood. Best of all stop having sex.

nahjela

ah-ah the POST, is this not pure stupidity to just put up a picture and say 'help this man if you know him'? So are you saying only those who know him should/can help him? Secondly, there is no background story on thius person, what kind of help does he needs? Which kind style dis? Katakata summed it up nicely. I just couldn't help but laugh.
On to the information on Simon provided by several posters; I really don't know what to make of all this. IF he had never taken an HIV test then we can assume, he didn't know of his illness for sure. On the other hand, if he has been engaging in such risky/reckless behaviour (constantly having unprotected sex with multiple partners), then he could equally assume, there exists the possibility of him contracting the virus. Did he think he was above contracting the deadly virus? Anyway, my conclusion is that if the police cannot prove his guilt (e.g. by getting some attestation from a hospital or HIV centre showing he was HIV + at the time he committed those acts) then they have to set him free. His only 'crime' would then be utmost recklessness and naivete.

nahjela

Abeg wuna excuse my typing errors; 'background story on this person','what kind of help does he need?'

tayong

Watesih.
A man who wants to cheat his barber? Hmmm! No comment. Vacation from politics isn't cine quo nom to retirement from politics. Im very much around though taken aback by other imperatives. "Your chairman" yes of course your chairman or is he "our" Chairman?
Ok our chairman. hahahahah, save our chairman.

Klemenceau-Shalom

Mr. Tayong

Thanks for the piece of news you pasted here. I say thanks because it has helped some people to get clarification from Watesih.
There is one thing that puzzles me all the time. Biya and the CPDM have been doing all in their power to see that Fru Ndi "our chairman" is jailed. But Fru Ndi has always made them understand that some innocent people can be victimized by the CPDM but not all.
You will recall the number of times they called the chairman for interrogation on the Deboule murder. The CPDM through Ben Muna's brother Yang did all to make sure Fru Ndi was found guilty and locked up but didn't succeed.
Today every dick and tom will came up with fabulous lies against Fru Ndi. Even criminals and blood drinkers now want to use Fru Ndi's name to safe themselves.
My prayer is that Fru Ndi should not be tempted one day to succumb to any temptation. The day Fru Ndi will touch a single franc as bribe from anybody, the whole world will hear and he will be locked up immediately. The aim of the Biya’s government is to find a way to implicate the Chairman even with 100CFA FRS as bribe and that will be the end of him as far as politics is concerned. But they will never succeed. A clean man never hides. Let them continue to pay the newspaper organs in and out of the country, the BBC, CNN etc to talk good of them while painting Fru Ndi black. They know they have failed.
Their agent Ben Muna is now holding but press conferences (as rally is not very important according to him (Ben Muna) in private places to deceive some self-centered and money minded people. Shame
Shalom
Klemenceau.

tayong

Klamenceau
You seem to be the one who got my intentions right. As Im writing here, this information has been transferred to CIN(Cameroon-info.net)and within a day it got 5177 hits!

Mr Watesih et al thats where your clarfications might be of utmost necessity . Its ravaging. Gentleman if you must play the SDF hardball its now. Good luck

Watesih

Tayong,
How many Cameroonians have access to the internet? This news was divulged to Cameroonians back there in Douala,and a SDF official was invited to the one o`clock news cast two days ago to give details, if there were any about this story.Even the Post published stories here two days ago without including this,showing how elusive the story is.You should know why Mutation,and Le Messager tried as usual to feedfat on this story.They have in their midst some of the sworn enemies of Fru Ndi for reasons you know.
Tayong what is surprising to me is your persistent desire to create unnecessary attention,and urgency around this story all these days.This is not surely your first time to learn of such ravaging stories about Fru Ndi,and strangely what seems to be too ravaging about the story is only Fru Ndi`s part.The part of Mebe Ngo`o trying to play a fast one on his master means nothing.You go and read the websites of those pimps who are scared out of their wits to know that they is still somebody called Fru Ndi who might one day serve as a challenge to the desire to eat eternally,and you come here trying to force people to think the same way.Last time Amadou Ali disgraced Anglophone journalists ,and you came out strongly,but today when Francophones disgrace Fru Ndi,you come to call your brothers to go and take part in the feast.Ridiculous! you havn`t shown your impartiality by questioning the veracity of this story.Now you want to pass for an informant,but this is not the role you have been playing here.If i were in a debate about the SCNC with Rexon,you would have jumped in to take sides with him.SCNC leaders have been languishing in jail in Cameroon,but we don`t see you making turns of News organs to make an inventory of the number of clicks,but here comes you telling Cameroonians that a hearsay story has been transfered to another website where you think they will eat Fru Ndi.I thought i was going to hear you and Rexon show your militancy in the SCNC with the crises the movement is involved in back home now,but here are you people hanging on to the SDF as usual.Then tomorrow you will turn around and make a fool of youself saying you have taken a break from politics.Nobody is afraid of that mouse and cat game here.Your wish to prescribe to us websites where we have to make turns clarifying people on unfounded stories is laughable publicity.I for one
understand that your half-bullying effontery
but you are always quick to accuse others of
being given in to confrontation.From the beginning you asked for rebuttals,and you were given one,then you insisted that more rebuttals are needed,and finally you say if
i must play the SDF hardball then i should go headlong into the the 'ravaging' news.Its preferable to discuss the SDF wholeheartedly
than pretend to take a break,say goodbye,and
and the very next day come back to say goodbye again.I will like to repeat that you are behaving like a man who is struggling to cheat his barber.

Watesih

Tayong,
How many Cameroonians have access to the internet? This news was divulged to Cameroonians back there in Douala,and a SDF official was invited to the one o`clock news cast two days ago to give details, if there were any about this story.Even the Post published stories here two days ago without including this,showing how elusive the story is.You should know why Mutation,and Le Messager tried as usual to feedfat on this story.They have in their midst some of the sworn enemies of Fru Ndi for reasons you know.
Tayong what is surprising to me is your persistent desire to create unnecessary attention,and urgency around this story all these days.This is not surely your first time to learn of such ravaging stories about Fru Ndi,and strangely what seems to be too ravaging about the story is only Fru Ndi`s part.The part of Mebe Ngo`o trying to play a fast one on his master means nothing.You go and read the websites of those pimps who are scared out of their wits to know that they is still somebody called Fru Ndi who might one day serve as a challenge to the desire to eat eternally,and you come here trying to force people to think the same way.Last time Amadou Ali disgraced Anglophone journalists ,and you came out strongly,but today when Francophones disgrace Fru Ndi,you come to call your brothers to go and take part in the feast.Ridiculous! you havn`t shown your impartiality by questioning the veracity of this story.Now you want to pass for an informant,but this is not the role you have been playing here.If i were in a debate about the SCNC with Rexon,you would have jumped in to take sides with him.SCNC leaders have been languishing in jail in Cameroon,but we don`t see you making turns of News organs to make an inventory of the number of clicks,but here comes you telling Cameroonians that a hearsay story has been transfered to another website where you think they will eat Fru Ndi.I thought i was going to hear you and Rexon show your militancy in the SCNC with the crises the movement is involved in back home now,but here are you people hanging on to the SDF as usual.Then tomorrow you will turn around and make a fool of youself saying you have taken a break from politics.Nobody is afraid of that mouse and cat game here.Your wish to prescribe to us websites where we have to make turns clarifying people on unfounded stories is laughable publicity.I for one
understand that your half-bullying effontery
but you are always quick to accuse others of
being given in to confrontation.From the beginning you asked for rebuttals,and you were given one,then you insisted that more rebuttals are needed,and finally you say if
i must play the SDF hardball then i should go headlong into the the 'ravaging' news.Its preferable to discuss the SDF wholeheartedly
than pretend to take a break,say goodbye,and
and the very next day come back to say goodbye again.I will like to repeat that you are behaving like a man who is struggling to cheat his barber.

tayong

Watesih
I wont stoop that low into wishy washy politics and confrontations. If you compare your write ups with Klemanceau's you'll get what I intended period. The fact that The Post didnt publish that information isn't reason enough to claim me publishing it here amounts me taking sides with the story.

To beginwith, it's said that silence means consent especially in politics and again when your opponents attack you, deck them, but rather you prefer to confront your informat,hilarios politics! By referring you to CIN meant you like others( SDF Canada ,SDF USA etc) chip in any rebuttals but behold you want my head.

Secondly there's no need for emotional outburst calling people pimps and whatever.I(with many others) dont know of your(SDF) antagonism with some media houses and instead of simply decking them ,you want me buried alive .

As if that was not enough you bring in Rexon come into this? Gentleman what for goodness sake has Rexon to do with this?.Its rather illogical to make mockery of my stopping by after taking a break to call your attention to a story that is doing harm than good.Where's the logic in this?

Here you.."Your wish to prescribe to us websites where we have to make turns clarifying people on unfounded stories is laughable publicity"......

There's no laughable publicity . If the SDF as you have been telling us here is a national party and those who visit Postnewsline dont major up to any good number of those who visit those websites. Where then is then the logic of "laughability"?

Sometimes I really fear that this kind of confrontational politics will rather mar than make our way forward.
Once more goodluck with the party and happy weekend.
Tayong

Mbu.B

Without being a referee, Watesih's rebuttals on what should be like the latest 'SDF/La Republique prank' is a little personal but has enlightened and clarified a lot.
We must also thank Tayong who provoked the hardwork out of him.

Now, if you guys want to be too 'cocky', go on and butcher yourselves with 'trying to defeat him' postings.

Atem

We are in a situation. HIV positive women claim mol to have infected them?
options
1) They may have infected Mol on the contrary.
Being positive with Mol does not mean Mol infected them. Both may have been infected and feasting in their infections.
What Medical procedure traces transmision source of the HIV virus?
I do not think there is a legal call for concern.
let his lawyer think and do not fear.

Watesih

Tayong,
I`m never interested in you when i write here.You are the one who asked for rebuttals from me,and i did my best to provide a little,but you came back charging why i was referring to Tayong.Even having been angry that i referred to you,you were not satisfied and asked me to produce more ,and more rebuttals.I laughed it off,but you still came back ,and referred me to other websites to go and save the SDF from 'ravaging' news if i think i`m a hardball.
This shows who you are,but you are always the first to point fingers at others for being antagonistic.I can write here for years without mentioning about you ,so next time when you have ravaging information don`t take me for your experimental mouse.I brought in Rexon`s name to remind you that you have always cut into my debates here with him.You are always cowardly to come out
with your own ideas,and like talking under others` voices.I never solicit anyhelp from you when i write here.We can understand your frustration.The only place ,the SCNC where you wanted to hide your flip-flopping is in crisis now with its leaders in jail,and highly vocal weaklings like you don`t
know on which leg to dance,and you pretend to be counting clicks on websites about Fru
Ndi.In your write up above where you said "our chairman" and laughed hahahah,i thought
you had made it very civil,and i did not post any other writeup,but i was surprised to see you doubled another writeup asking me to go to websites if i want to prove that i`m a 'hardball'in the SDF.You use language like this but always accuse others of confrontational politics.Tayong continue to place yourself on the moral pedestal you are dreaming of ,but remember that i am fully aware of that you half-bullying effontery, and that your posturing will never go unchecked .SCNC leaders are languishing in jail,and since you dare not make noise about the SCNC now you can continue making rounds of websites counting clicks about Fru Ndi.
You are really a laughing stock in front of the world,you who has pretended this while
that people should take their SDF antics elsewhere,but this is you doing the arduous task of counting clicks about the party`s chairman.

tayong

Watesih
Playing an organisation's hardball=Being the defender of that organisation.I mentioned a couple of you but you isolated yourself for digression. Playing hardball isn't equal to calling someone a hardball as you thought.

Secondly the SCNC is an organisation that fights for the Southern Cameroon independence. My advocacy for Southern Cameroon delima doesnt make me SCNC, howbeit all your redicules on the Southern Cameroonians dont go to me alone but to the whole nation you included. Use all the adjectives you think of, thats fine with me.

People who fight for the rights of others dont need to stand at the market square to declare to you what they are doing . Call us lunatics or whatever name you wish , justice will prevail , it may take years but it will happen.

Once more goodluck with the party
Tayong

Watesih

Tayong,
" I mentioned a couple of you but you isolated yourself for digression".

" Its ravaging.GENTLEMAN IF YOU MUST MUST PLAY THE SDF HARDBALL ITS NOW".
This is dishonesty to even accept that you treated me as if i have to defend Fru Ndi in front of you.Who are you? Why do you want us to defend whatever organisation,and you even come back to tell us that more and more rebuttals are never.
One thing is clear,that shame is driving you to your grave,because you thought you could make fuss of this story here,and attract attention against the SDF,and Fru Ndi as usual,but no single person listened to you.Secondly you were looking for a story to cover up your inability to do anything for the SCNC leaders in jail,but people still ignored you,thats why you came insisting that you needed more rebuttal.
"..howbeit your ridicule on the Southern Cameroonians don`t go to me a lone,but to the whole nation you included" .Rubbish! You think you are more Southern Cameroonian than who? What have you done to always try to behave as if you had some special privileges about Southern Cameroons that others cannot have.I am ridiculing you sir,not Southern Cameroonians,that you are pitifully trying to make fools of Southern Cameroonians by insisting that people should read about rumours in Francophone websites,when our own brothers are languishing in jail in Cameroon.If you cannot provide any help for them,just shut up,and sleep.
" Justice will prevail".Have i been standing on the way of your justice not to prevail.Look Tayong the self pity you are looking for really makes you ridiculous in front of the world.But never come imposing your little personality on me.I shall never respect ,nor even be afraid of you.Who are you to start asking people for more rebuttals,and calling them hardballs,only to turn around and try to whip up emotions against them?

Fon

Watesih,
I was not aware of this development here since I was more concerned with current news above.
I wish to say that this confrontation with Tayong is really uncalled for. I think you have missed the person to attack. You misunderstood Tayong. He equally directed me to that website.
Looking at your exchanes above, I think Tayong has taken the role to calm you down; an indication that he feels he might unknowly hurt you but you insisted to go wild. Just for us to be wary.

vito

Watesih you had every right to reply Tayong personally even if the others to whom the rumour was addressed to dont feel like doing so.
Tayong gentleman,please the next time you have something for the public do not address it to persons otherwise ,expect personal replies.Your posting was friendly and so was Watesih's reply;you needn't have taken it further with you subsequent postings.
At any rate the digression's gone out far enough;please gentlemen,let it lie.Thanks

Watesih

Fon,
Read what Vito has said ,and i will also say you have missed the person to blame.The first thing is that Tayong came out to provoke not inform.When i provided the first rebuttal,he came back blasting me why i referred to the name Tayong,whereas he was the one who was asking for rebuttals.He insisted that Watesih,and al should provide more and more rebuttals,i kept quite,he came back forcefully in another write up doing everything to whip up sentiments.He addressed Klemenceau first,and personally addressed me next,referring me to other websites so i could prove i`m the SDF hardball.He addresses me personally ,but under writes Watesih and co,this is just an attempt to take others for fools.So Fon stop
that little game of saying i attacked Tayong.I did my best to provide the rebuttals ,but he was not satisfied,and hope he could push things too far.I insisted to continue to make it out with him,because if asked for rebuttals ,and one was provided,and he asked for more,and went to the level of referring us to other websites
because he thinks we are hardballs,then he was looking for something more serious.

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