Youth Day Message by President Paul Biya

My dear young compatriots,

I am pleased to address you this evening, as it is the case each year, on the occasion of the Youth Day.

I, of course, share your joy in the various events you are organizing. But, above all, I want to underscore that you have pride of place in the nation and to restate my concern for you.  For, as I have often said, the future of a country lies with its youth. You are the future of Cameroon. You must be keen in preparing to build the Cameroon of tomorrow.

As you are aware, my ambition in this respect is to modernize our country and, at the same time, to roll back poverty which is still widespread in our society. In conjunction with the World Bank and the IMF, the Government has, to that end, devised strategies which it is gradually putting in place.

However, let us face it, it will be a long haul spanning many years.   

And here, dear young compatriots, is where you come on stage. For, it is crystal clear that while your elders are laying the foundation of our new society, you will have the daunting, yet lofty, task of pursuing the construction of the edifice. 

I can safely say that the circumstances surrounding the launching of this major project seem to be more favourable than they were a few years ago. Indeed, with the attainment of the completion point of the HIPC initiative, we will have relatively substantial financial resources to invest in the social sectors, notably in education and infrastructure, which are areas that concern you specifically.

You should therefore brace yourselves to become the actors of what would be Act Two of the New Deal in our country. That of the emergence of its economy after the irreversible institution of democracy.

To that end, we will continue to extend our educational system to ensure access to all our children and to all our youth. In so doing, we will be giving equal opportunity its true meaning.

With respect to basic education, we will build even more schools with our own resources or with the assistance of our bilateral partners. Having recruited, on a contractual basis, thousands of part-time school teachers, we will recruit more teachers to ensure appropriate and quality pedagogic guidance.

Concerning secondary education, we will complete the school map by opening new schools equipped with teaching aids, technical facilities as well as information technology and communication tools.

As concerns higher education that is responsible for the training of future senior officers of the nation, I would like to point out the importance of the changes under way through new university governance.

Various actions are envisaged or ongoing as part of a professionalization and diversification programme. In fulfilment of the commitment I made, an Advanced Teachers’ Training College will be created in Maroua. Those of Yaounde and Bambili, as well as the Douala Advanced Technical Teachers’ Training College, will be rehabilitated. The technology branch will be restructured. In this regard, the National Advanced School of Food Technology in Ngaoundere will be rehabilitated. Medical studies will not been left out. The Faculty of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences of the University of Yaounde I will be revamped. A Faculty of Medicine and Pharmaceutical Sciences and a Faculty of Industrial Engineering have been opened in Douala while a Department of Medecine within the Faculty of Health Sciences has been opened in Buea.

Other programmes seek to improve the quality of teaching through the study of the Bachelor-Masters-Doctorate system and the popularization of ICTs in all higher education institutions. Lastly, various actions are planned in the areas of cooperation, regionalization, research and introduction of control and assessment instruments. In a few years, the image of our higher education should be completely changed.

Furthermore, measures will be taken or pursued to improve the plight and working conditions of higher education teachers who, in any case, have always received my attention.

A remarkable effort is also under way to improve the living conditions of students through the building of new infrastructure, lecture halls and halls of residence. I must admit that there are chronic deficiencies in this area. However, we now have the means to start remedying this situation.

Nonetheless, while I can understand that some claims made by our university students are legitimate and justified, I cannot tolerate that they should result in violence against persons or in the destruction of public property. In other words, if our youth, our university students in particular, have any complaints, the appropriate authorities are always willing to entertain them, so long as they are legitimate. I count on the good understanding and judgement of the vast majority of students in our country.

Generally speaking, the importance the State accords to the education of our youth is reflected in budget allocations of the relevant ministries. 

Normally, certificates awarded to our primary school, college, high school and university graduates should enable our youth to find jobs. Unfortunately, it must be acknowledged that such is not always the case.

According to available statistics, the unemployment rate among the youth is approximately 13%. However, it is said to be much higher in urban centres like Yaounde and Douala. These figures clearly reflect the scope and gravity of the problem.

The government addressed the issue by mobilizing the various departments responsible for youth employment.

The Ministry of Youth Affairs is preparing a national youth employment action plan based on lessons drawn from the Employment Forum. A National Youth Council will define the areas for their involvement in the development of our country with a view to reducing poverty.

For its part, the Ministry of Employment and Vocational Training has embarked on what it has dubbed a veritable “crusade” against youth unemployment. It seeks, within that context, to participate in the professionalization of education, to foster youth entrepreneurship and to promote partnerships between schools and universities and enterprises. In 2006, thanks to a special appropriation, the National Employment Fund launched several hundred micro-projects primarily targeting the youth.

The Ministry of Small- and Medium-sized Enterprises, Social Economy and Handicrafts intervened in our ten provinces within the framework of the Integrated Informal Sector Stakeholder Support Project. Thousands of young people thus entered the world of work through self-employment initiatives.

These initiatives, though useful and commendable, cannot help resolve the general problem of unemployment in Cameroon, and particularly among the youth.

The one and only solution to this issue – I will keep repeating – is the revival of growth.  Growth which will stimulate the economy, and consequently, create jobs.

All our efforts are currently geared toward this goal. As I said earlier on, the attainment of the completion point should make things easier for us by giving us room to invest in productive sectors. The ongoing settlement of the internal debt should also provide the national economic operators with funds to develop their activities.

I am however counting mostly on our major energy and industrial projects, as well as on the revitalization of our agriculture, to bring about this change in our economy, whose necessity I have often emphasized.
Dear young compatriots,

I told you last year, on this same occasion, that I was counting on you to invent a “new form of patriotism”, based on commitment to solidarity and attachment to the general interest.

I am renewing this appeal to you, as I believe that we can achieve the “New Deal” which I am proposing only through a radical change in behaviour. I expect you to be pioneers of this change.

This is therefore not the time to give up.

I am indeed convinced that the conditions are now met for us to look to the future with confidence. This future will mostly be yours; therefore, I entreat you to help me give it a chance through your work, through your commitment, through your enthusiasm and, once again, through your patriotism.

Happy Youth Day!
Long live the youth of Cameroon!
Long live Cameroon!

Comments

[wordweaver]

What is the use of building more schools with impossible curriculums when there are no jobs? what's the use of talking about new deal strategies when we don't even know how they work? blablablablablablablablabla bullshit is all i hear.

[Fon]

It is amazing to hear this tyrant still talking about the New Deal which is known only on papers for 24 years.

The major ill that plagues the Cameroonian youth is unemployment, yet the dictator has not mentioned clearly how this can be tackled. Many youths have tried to engage themselves in petit businesses but end up closing them because of heavy taxes from the government. Experts have critized the tax system in Cameroon which does not favour self employment yet our tyrant has paid a deaf ear to it.
"I entreat you to help me give it a chance through your enthusiasm " Enthusiatic about what? How can an unemployed hungry youth who sees Cameroon as hell and who is prepared to die at high sea in an attempt to escape from Cameroon (Biya´s hell) be enthusiatic?

[Ottou]

Here comes the usual parole.
When the youths keep seeing the old being manupulative and cling to power.
This message has been consoling for 24 years. The economy is stagnant. The youths cannot find their place in decision making and so on.
Mr. Biya our problem is you. Your time is up you can leave the stage.

[Francis/Germany]

Did i miss a pargraph or did Mr Biya not just find it important to mention the number one disease which is wiping out all our youths of today? HIV/AIDS. Or is this not an important issue? This fellow has being saying tesame thing for years now and has done nothing till today. He should just go away. Crininal!!!!!

[Ma Mary]

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Do not accept these frogs' attempt to whitewash our history.
That is the only lie that matters here. The rest can be ignored as usual.

[Akoson]

He's not president of the Southern Cameroons. Why comment on his speech? Their time is up!

[rexon]

Watesih Wrote:

"There`s a stalemate because nobody agrees with Biya"

It is however funny the way some individuals in this forum have reduced their brains to such a low level of wishful thinking.

Fon,

As you know, i am no fan to the way our fatherland is being managed by Paul Biya and co. But i will enthrust you to listen to yourself and compare the comments you make about Biya, the criticisms you make about those who criticised your hero NJFN and ask yourself if you are really an objective thinking mind. The issue here is about Biya's speech which we of course will want to scrutinise and criticise. I see you using all sorts of adjectives to describe this man who has managed la republique for 24 years. But when any individual try to criticise any action of NJFN, you are always fast enough to brand him a CPDM agent. Your take in making some political players in la republique indispensable has realistic repercussions. I think the way Biya has been made a dictator by the people he is leading is thesame way other opposition players like NJFN, Mbah Ndam, Bello Bouba, Dakole Daisalla, Ndam Njoya has inadvertently been made dictators by their loyalist. In our trust to defend our heritage and bring change in the future, we should avoid trying to creat thesame dictators we spend sleepless nights trying to overthrow. Yes, Biya has not been managing Cameroon well. But i will frankly want to inform you that, the speeches, false promises, etc that he has been making for 24 good years without any realistic results are not different from thesame speeches political leaders in la republique has been making without thesame results. Of almost all the political parties created in 1990 to defend our rights in one way or the other, i am not aware of any major leader that has stepped down. Instead, we still see the Ndam Njoya's, Bello Bouba, remaining chairman for 17+ years. Biya will one day leave power either by force or by design. Another leader will take over power by either force or design. My take is, if we worship the new leader as a cult hero, we will inadvertently go to thesame position that we are today. We will be creating thesame dictators that we have been criticising. I will advise you SDFers and opposition stalwarts to understand what you want. As things stand, you guys are merely politiking and supporting your leaders either because you are affiliated to them through sharing thesame tribal heritage, or you lack foresight into what you really want.

[Watesih]

Rexon,
It is wishfulfillment for us to think that nobody agrees with Biya,but this cannot be the same thing with you,because your brother agrees intoto with him.You even informed us that he worships homosexuals like Charles Doumba.That is more the reason you want to even the destruction Biya has brought to Cameroon with what other opposition leaders do.How many times have opposition leaders rigged elections? How many times have they shot at armless students ,and citizens? How many of their friends have embezzled millions ,and are taking a rest from active embezzlement in Kondengui?

[lionking]

Mr Biya,you have made the youths in Cameroon to have no future.Thousands are frustrated abroad because of one idiot from Etoudi.You have destroyed the country but succeeded in giving future to Frank,Brenda,Junior and your relatives who are just a bunch of illitrated and asswholes.The gods of cameroon are watching you as you continue preeching lies to the youths of their land.We are tied and bored with your NEW DEAL stories every year.I guess people writing this nonesense in the name of a speech simply do a reprint of previous years.Open more schools and training colleges for your relatives and friends' relatives.We appreciate your efforts to make south Cameroon forget it's path and history.My Biya,time will come when the helpless would be able to help themselves.A president who can not spent a week in his country is talking about patriotism for his country.It would be even better if you read this Prepared speech from France to ease suppervision by your master Chirac.
I suggest subsequently speeches like this one should be made like a press conference where Biya would be a given a chance to defend what he is reading out.
Youths of Cameroon Be strong and multiple more efforts to throw this frog of a president of our lovely land.

[M Nje]

Governor Biya,
You will hear from Southern Cameroons youths. Just be patient. The Trojan Bell will ring. Make sure you will be there.

[Fon]

Rexon,
I know you are offended that I have called the idol of your brother a tyrant. However I own you no apology for that. When I do critize the comments made about Fru Ndi, I do it openly and I do not take cover under something else to show my support for him as some of you do. This is because I am not ashame of whom I support.
What is your own comment about the speech of the inimical tyrant? You carefully avoided it for fear of being further identified.

I have said here many times that there is no single reason that one can advance to compare the longivity of an opposition leader at the helm of a party with that of a president in power. You can´t expect me to critize an opposition leader who has not yet had the chance to rule. The focus of the SDF should be solely to accede to power and not who should head the SDF. When the SDF is in power, that is when we will be able to access them and make critisms.

"As things stand, you guys are merely politiking and supporting your leaders either because you are affiliated to them through sharing thesame tribal heritage, or you lack foresight into what you really want."

Concerning your statement in quotes above, I wish to remind you that my interest is not Fru Ndi but the strength of the SDF. Anything that I view as being detrimental to the strength and progress of the SDF,I will use the last iota of my energy to fight against. This is because I see the SDF as the last hope for our country and will not tolerate anything that can weaken this party.
Rexon,I assure you from my heart that if I am convince of another political party that can topple the Biya regime, I will not give a second thought to throw all my support to that party. In the same light If I am convince of another person that can lead the SDF and accelerate the departure of the tyrant I will immediately withdraw my support for NI John. Do you think that person can be Ben Muna? No
For now, I am not for politics defined as a game of interest but for politics that can lead to the departure of the tyrant and his regime.
You say I am against those who critize Fru Ndi, as it stands now, i will like you to suggest who I should support now inorder to also critize Fru Ndi. Your suggestion should reflect my interest, the immediate departure of the tyrant and his regime.

[john2]

Rexon
I alway admire the way you are fighting for the independent of S. Cameroon,very few africans are devoted like you butI donot think that comparing Frudi to biya is correct .Frudi have won so many free and fair elections both within and out of the party (1992 presidential election) while Biya have never won any free and fair election.Paul Biya doesnot have the support of 10 percent of cameroonians he knows it very well.I wish you the best in your struggle.

[Sophie2]

I think you guys are being so critical with paul Biya he is definitely doing her best to secure his interest and the interest of cameroon, he has listed a few number of thing he has said and done. Creating more schools to to encourage higher education is a good thing. It is left to you to set up a strong private sector to employ this guys when they graduate, the government cant employ everybody. In other parts of the world people run away from the civil services and in Cameroon people kill others to join the civil service.
In other parts of the world people join parties to give money to the party in cameroon people join parties to make money. We have to actually reverse our lines of thought and face it.
I have read stories on here abt witchcraft and stuff like that I know this may not be directly relateted to the presidents speech but i just want to point out that it is not the government that is a problem it's actually our believe system. There no witchcraft if there was africa will be the most powerful continent in the world.
First of all cameroonians need to know that the only way forward is strong business and if u have people who belive in charms to bring them customers rather than proper marketing skills then u know u have a crises.
Second the government has to reaslise that taxes do not help, They spend quite a lot of money in trying to collect taxes and trying to give back the money to the people and at the end of the day u'll see that the taxes were better not collected at all. Please Paul Biya Talk this with your advisers and cancel taxes in cameroon if u want to be remembered.

[MartinEnow]

Mr Biya,
Stop all this pond of jagons which you keep pouring to please the international community. You have used 24 years to destroy Cameroon beyond repairs. A country that used to be full of hope have been turned into a Country of utter poverty and lack of simple means of Subsistence. Yet Biya stands on the eve of youth day and in a dehumanising manner to clain he has got the interest of the youths at heart?
Gone are those days when people were so blind and could be cajoled in to beleieving such irony because they are Coming from a devil in the guise of a president. Its a shame to see how many suffer in ravaging povery and how so few have billions in their pockets in a country blessed with abundant natural resources. Youths are graduating from school every day with no jobs opportunities yet a selfish dictator will come to the air and talk about the bullshit of new deal and how it has the youths at heart. Does Biya thinks he is joking with stupid peaople. I bet you mr President no Cameroonian is stupid, they are simply so selfish and wants to amass wealth for themselves by singing false praises top you. Even those close to you know you are bad for Cameroon. Remember all what you do today you will some day have to answer for it for posterity will judge you. Saddam Hussien was there in Iraq for 25 years thinking he was so invinsible yet when he fell it was such a great fall. Its not to late Mr president, you have the ability as well as means to bring Cameroon to the state in which you met when you came to power in 1982. This country belongs to us all so make it a better place for us all to live in.
Mr Biya comes to Europe every day enjoy the facilities and structure found in europe yet he never thinks of trying to make his country in any way to look like that. How did God make such a man president who is just there to put the lives of 18million people in such shit and misery. Look at what happened in Buea University recently, yet he stands up and talk about youths being the leaders of tomorrow. I better stop before i run short of tears to cry because this level of lies and hypocracy is just beyong human belief. But remember all of you ruining Cameroon will have to answer one day. But may be bofre this day will come the situation must have worsened to the extent that people will not have any food to eat

[Danny Boy]

Ma Mary,
yours is quite enlightening indeed. It used to be called EMPIRE DAY as well, after our British Commonwealth heritage.
A few days ago, I read a posting on Camnetwork, in french, which intimated that Youth Day celebrations for this year should be cancelled and if these must go ahead, there should be a minute's silence at 11.00 o'clock in remembrance of the many youths who have died recentlty, not least, for the students who were killed in Buea.
This occasion provided his Excellency with the opportunity for him to say sorry for this wanton loss of life. He failed to grab it. He will go down in history as the president who presided over the torture and murder of our youths. That will be his epitaph.
As for the substance of his speech, absolute claptrap. He is not a good liar. If he was even good at lying, it should occur to him that he has said/promised such lofty goals before. He has been at the helm now for nigh 25 years and he doesn't know what went wrong where and why, as evident from his new year speech.
I ask you brothers and sisters, what can he accomplish in 4 years that he could not in 24 years? Absolute zilch. Our consoling thought should be that he has only got 4 more years at the helm and whether he likes it or not he has to go.
The question now should be, who do we want to take over? Yang Philemon? Ni John, Adamu Ndam Njoya? This is the debate today, not heavenly inspired messages asking Biya and Ni John to meet! Logically speaking, Biya is not going to be a candidate at the next Presidential elections, so, of what use is this dialogue? Any smart SDF strategist should have his guns focused on any of the probables the CPDM fields come 2011. From what my political antenna has gathered so far, the most likely successor to Biya is Yang Philemon. Any comments, please?
Blessed be our fatherland.
Danny Boy.

[M Nje]

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[flames]

At first I resisted the urge to comment but after reading through many comments laid out here, I feel compelled to write. As a matter of fact most of the comments written on this site show many voices and characteristically the Cameroonian feeling. Expressed here is either an uncontrollable zeal, political immaturity or anger at the current anger and frustration over the way things are managed in Cameroon.

Considering human nature and the natural response to repel injustice (Watch a movie with villains and you will always be self-urged to punish the bad guys) and seek for vengeance, it would be recommended if our understanding of political systems should not a be of a white-black, day-night view but something with no clearly defined rules.

Why do I suggest such? It is ironic and pathetic to see basically two groups of comment members on this forum: SDF sympathizers and SCNCs sympathizers as well as members of both camps. Most of the time they engage in in-fighting or personal accusations. Also in some cases, french-speaking Cameroonians also give in contributions and this alwys draws bitter exchanges with some english-speaking cameroonians( for example in the section about the last university strikes).

However I feel most of the problems being discussed here are usually one-sided or even when fairly balanced, it is usually a rush view of the political situation.

let me start with the SDF sympathizers: Here they profess some loyalty to the Ni John Fru Ndi and do all to defend his position. However not all are totally blind followers but they do believe he is the better of all the candidates for the post. To them the SDF has the possibility of overturning one day the legacy of the current government and hopefully Fru Ndi should be the President.

The next interesting group are the SCNCs group. The members believe the situation could only be better if the the former British Cameroon secedes from the rest of Cameroon, since they are the richer part and hence will have a self-sufficient government. However this group goes also sometimes into proposing serious radical measures, such as an armed struggle against the authorities.

Well before I forget, there are some CPDM sympathizers too. Although they do feature rarely here on this forum, based on my personal experience with meeting with some, they feel Biya is the best option and that only he could control the situation in Cameroon.

It should be noted that the above views I have given are not intended to teach anybody how the Cameroonian society is divided on their political topics or affiliations, nor does it show my political preference. Honestly, I do not belong to any of the aforementioned groups because I believe at this stage, Cameroon is still far from political maturity.

Why? In Africa we still have the sense of of worshiping our leaders. We give them a cult hero status and this is evident not only in politics but even on small-scale organizations like student unions, where people elect leaders not on the policies that would be implemented, but rather based on tribal lines or friendship links or wealth status.

Some will disagree with me that the same holds for Europeans. True! We should not think politics in the developed world is as clean and white-washed as they show to us through their media. Europeans do have the silly games as we play but really why are they still at the better position than us? Are they doing something extra than us or simply are they lucky?

Currently I am in Europe and their view of Africa is that we love a good life, that is why we come to Europe. We study and then we remain in Europe and do not wish to return home. Furthermore they think we Africans cling so much to religion and hence we are manipulated into all responsibilities to God and we do not effort. In fact, most modern-day Europeans are atheists and they feel society without religion is better. I do not necessarily agree with them on this but there are certain things, which Africans, particularly Cameroonians may seem to lack: the Concept of Common Good.

Today in Cameroon many people profess many faiths: Catholics, Protestants, Pentecostals, African animists...etc but few do practice the policy of common good. What is this principle? Charity? Community Service?

This common good can best be described by two self-question scenarios:

After enjoying a meal of groundnuts? Where do you drop the shells? On the road or do you seek the nearest dustbin (of course there are few dustbins in Cameroon)?

In case you have come across a red traffic-light-junction in Cameroon, did you wait for the red traffic light to cross as a pedestrian (even no car is in sight), or as a driver did you break to let pedestrians cross (even if no pedestrian is present)?

Well, do you get my point here? How many Cameroonians have done the right thing when they had the chance? I am not painting ourselves as devils but trying to prove our sense of doing something out of good faith to the other Cameroonian is no longer existing. Blameless because since 1988 (public acknowledgment of economic crisis in Cameroon), things have down-spiralled into chaos and disorder. As a result our sense of common good eroded alongside and now in Cameroon we have been reduced to finger-blaming the Government, our system, our leaders and in fact any blame-able target.

In Europe, although they are not the best of humans, their sense of common good hast always let their society propogate. Mind you I am not casting them as good but in their general consensus to create a nice environment for their progeny they created and enforced their rules because it benefits them. we Africans have lost that and it would be a long way to reinstate that in us. Think of any political cause in Cameroon and see if the entire idea has not been hijacked alongside. People have used the SDF and the SCNC to seek asylum visas abroad. Even late Albert Mukong (RIP) used to help guys get asylum. Maybe it is a temporal method to help Cameroonians flee the deteriorating conditions at home, however it strongly informs us that something is critically wrong with our mentality and our way of thinking.

Another funny suggestion is an armed rising against the authorities. It is noteworthy to consider that any war,waged for good or bad reasons is essentially business especially for the third party supplying the weapons. How many times did war proponents think about the availability and the purchase of weapons as a purchasable items. If you think it is practically to move over to a third party and pledge to use its weapons to do a liberation fight and not pay in return, then you are ultimately wrong. As a reference read about the wars in Angola, Congo and Sierra Leone. Nothing in life comes free and the worse is that the third party helping rebels in a war also supplies to government troops and thus controls the outcome of the war, based on the faction that offers a more favorable trade deal in exchange of weapons.

Hey? Why am I writing all of this? Aren't we already aware of this? Good! Since The Post News Online is a nice forum for Cameroonians to express them, I would for a start quote one of Napoleon's phrases: "Keep your Friends Close and your Enemies closer"

See my subsequent articles for further analysis...

[Danny Boy]

Flames,
I hate to say it, but you sound like just another CPDM high priest. What is indeed the essence of your posting? To derail the current trend of thought, albeit scribbles from the not so bright brigade?
Napoleon was a fool and if you see any historical value in his utterances, then you must be one. "I speak as an anglophile", do you understand the meaning of this statement. I abhor all things french. They are the bane of the sufferings today in Cameroon.
As timid as you are, you call yourself "flames". You sound like some dying embers to me. Will not be reading your next hotch-potch.
Le monde est formidable. Blessed be.
Danny Boy.

[M Nje]

Mr Flames,
If you think a society has all those problems you enlisted you should step up to help change the situation. If you say you are neutral, then you lack a sense of COMMON GROUP yourself.

You are probaly neutral because you don`t fell the effect of those ills you suggest exist in that society. Probaly you might be benefiting from the system.

You only see what is happening in the SDF and the SCNC but you forget about the Billions of dollars that are in foreign banks, in the name of those in public officer, CPDM loyalist. Is that not the greatest example of lack of common good.

Danny Boy is probaly right. You sound like a CPDM propaganda officer. The focus is on Governor Biya and not help-less individuals in that society who are being starved to death everyday.

When it comes to the right to self defense, you are making a mistake. The TROJAN HORSE is coming. You cannot stop or discourage people from their birth right, the right to defend their villages and cities. So be ready for it.

[M Nje]

"COMMON GOOD" not "COMMON GROUP"

[Ma Mary]

Flames declares neutrality or superiority. Such declaration is a political position, be not deceived, in favour of the status quo.
An older generation of Southern Cameroonians used to tell their kids: "politics is a dirty game". That was an implicit warning, not to mess with politics. If you do not mess with politics, it will mess with you. If you mess with politics, it could still mess with you. Being apolitical is a political stance, and these hands of people are the worst, worse than Biya or Ahidjo. They are the kind that Jesus called luke warm water, to be spewed out. Old Southern Cameroonians gave their children bad advice. Interest in politics is part of the common good, an important part. The other parts such as keeping the environment clean were practiced by individuals in the Southern Cameroons. Flame might be too young to remember, but it is true. We want our country back so that we may restore civic pride and civility, something not possible in this french colonial dispensation.

Cheers and may your flames burn bright.

[M Nje]

Hi Forum Friends,
Disregard my distraction

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[flames]

hello folks,

I read some of your responses to me and found them very entertaining.

Before I do start, I did make some typographical and grammatical errors and I was in the stage of reediting and posting before I saw some responses. I am very delighted to have elicited some answers from you, because this proves we are on the right track. No human is self righteous and we all do no see things the same, else life would be very monotonous.

That said, some call me a CPDM high priest or a lukewarm Cameroonian or that I preach politics is bad.

Hehehe...I will like to make some facts repudiating myself from such descriptions:

I believe politics is good and necessary but what may be bad is the the human being handling it. In fact I wish to say politics is like a tool and if you don't wield it the right way it will not serve its purpose.

So I encourage everyone to get political and think politically but to be beware of hasty decisions and touch of extremism.

Ok I do not belong to any political affiliation in Cameroon because there is no political structure in Cameroon. Ask any CPDM, SDF or even the SCNC about the constitution and manifesto about what the party does and you will be shocked that none would be able to answer you. I believe many Cameroonians flock to political unions not for the political ideologies but more of the gains. Am I wrong C-guys?

Well as stated in my first article, I said it is very natural for humans who have been oppressed to react in vengeful manner in order to resolve the social injustice that is inflicted on them. Truly Anglophones are marginalized in Cameroon and many may think doing a force take-up of their liberty may be the right way. At first glance that seems to the best option but further examination reveals that quick action may not solve the problem. If you guys think I am wrong, look at the fate of African countries involved in a conflict. No major African country manufactures and exports sophisticated arms except South Africa but check out the highest buyers. The purchase of arms fuel conflicts even when such conflicts where fought for the right reasons, Who stands to gain: the poor population caught up in the conflict and involved in the war or the warring factions or the arms dealer? Frankly the war firms do not care because they will joke and say: "It is their war and it is my business. I do no make war, I sell the weapons" Consequently, do you think to fight for your freedom, necessarily means you must pick up arms(sorry buy the arms- even on loan for your resources later)?

Oh yes! It is so damn funny when people talk of the British heritage when describing events in Cameroon. When did anglophones become British or consider the British culture theirs? Ask the British and they will disown you even if you speak the English language. Anglophones are simply behaving like the francophones, who at one time called France home although the French still view them as monkeys. We are still blind with this neo-colonial imperialism. The major thing, which we could use to our advantage is the use of the colonial languages(English and French) but going further to categorize our cultures as British or French is shameful because it shows how the colonial guys succeeded in making us forget who we are (and worse of all they will never accept us as equals).

Back to the counter-accusation before I slipped off. using Napoleon's quotation did not mean I am a fan of him (It is true his military campaign ended disastrously but he is still highly regarded as a powerful strategist).

"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" means you should study enemy more than your friends. In any political scene you study the moves of your opponents to know what to do beforehand.

It is known the Cameroonian government is one of the worse examples of governments in Africa but if you don't take time to study them, how will you defeat them. In my own opinion, most of the government members are clowns, who cannot even define their obligations. Maybe to become a government official involves signing of documents, eating sumptuous meals during break periods and organizations of big end-of-year parties while maintaining accounts in swiss banks... the list of malfunctioning of the Cameroonian system goes on and on.

So here is my recommendation: Be patient, study your adversary, work out a strategy and then pursue it. Effective political change is a gradual process. As an example look at European history: they have experienced wars, pogroms and other barbaric events. They have learned and reshaped their policies today and this did not take 5 years (in fact centuries) but in a way their scope when compared to Africa is different. During the European crisis, no African country played an influential role in their politics but nowadays they still have the invisible on Africa which means any struggle in Africa also affects the European grip.

For those aspiring for the changes in Cameroon (like secession), it worthy to bear in mind that it is not possible to exist as a small rich state with plentiful resources without the European guys turning a blind eye and pretending the state does not exist. Of course they will want to get involved and get a cut of the share and how can we stop that? Common Good. As a good example look at China. For folks in Cameroon, they should note Europeans seem to respect Asians more than Africans. Why? Asians defined what they needed and got it. They did not need to make armed uprisings but careful juggling of politics.

Thus we need to start changing our mentalities and if possible learn from the successful guys. All revolutionary talk no longer serves so much nowadays, especially when we do not manufacture ourselves the arms for struggle and with the hype of terrorism, your fight for liberty will be intentionally mistranslated by the government as terrorism.

Additionally, despite the fact that Anglophones face a double hard time in Cameroon, it should be noted that even the many francophones are dissatisfied with the current government too. Yes! I have met Betis who dislike the way Biya and Co run Cameroon. So in discussions where people are quick to point La Republique, it would be nice to distinguish between the evil authorities and the common folk.

hehehe...neverthless some mentalities never change. I met some Francophones in Europe and they are still infected by the disease of feeling superior to anglophones. This however is done only by a minority and should not be generalized. I have also met anglophones, who behaved likewise.

Hmm...Self-defense is of course well recommended but who is better: a brave fool or an intelligent coward? When Europe wanted to acquire slaves from Africa, they never landed with military contingents but rather used their intelligence to fool our chiefs into handing slaves to them. You see methodology here is better than unplanned action. I see you people talk of Trojan Horses but think well about this government.. They have covered strategic posts with personnel from some particular areas, which means the Trojan horse may hardly be from our area. Anyway since this appears as shadowy, let me keep my fingers crossed and see the outcome? You may be right after all.

Lastly I warned in my previous post about seeing things or white-black. If someone does not meet up your opinions, it does not mean he is against you. In reality many people have many diverse opinions and agreements are based more on compromise. So for folks who post and paint me as a CPDM or whatever else, because my views differ from theirs, should not note stereotyping is not a form of political maturity.

[flames]

note stereotyping is not a form of political maturity.

[M Nje]

Mr Flames,
Go to bed. You seem to be having a bad day. What is your point?

[Riccardo]

Patriot Flames,

Excellent write ups. Good piece to educate those who cry for political freedom but are quick to point fingers on others who have different opinions.
Thank God Cameroonians are not stupid.
Think progressive.... The future of Cameroon belongs to progressive an patriotic Cameroonians.

May God bless a united and strong Republic of Cameroon!

Riccardo
CAADIM (CAmeroonians Against the DIvision of our Motherland).

[Ma Mary]

Flames, there are two ends of a spectrum: one end is what you call black and white or the simplistic perspective. The other end is analysis paralysis. You appear to live at the analysis paralysis spectrum. If you are a doctor, your patient would die, because you get so cut up in the process of sorting out the variables that you miss the obvious.

Flames: the problem for the disenchanted Camerounese is bad government. Our problem is annexation. They look the similar because some of the outcomes such as poverty, crime and corruption are similar. We Southern Cameroonians split; they take care of their bad government.

We do not spend too much time calculating something that lies between full colonization and half colonization. Been there, done that.

One sure way of knowing that you are off base is when Riccardo begins to shower you with encomiums.

[Watesih]

Sophie2,
Creating more schools to encourage higher education is definitely a good thing,
but what type of schools do we create? Biya has been called upon to encourage techinical education,where children could learn skills ,and initiate small trades,and craftmanship for themselves,but we have instead witnesses the creation of more Secondary Genaral education institutions.Secondary schools most of the times are only created on paper,and where some structures are actually put up ,students will lack common trowels to mix cement.The private sector can only have people to animate it,if institutions like the one in Ombe are not closed down but strengthened.Sophie the government has given the impression that it can alwayys employ all the citizens,and that there`s enough money to embezzle,and either go free,or spend 2,3 years in "preventive detention" ,and still come out to spend it.Sophie i dis agree with you intoto that it is not the government that is the problem,but our belief systems.Did any witchcraft push Ondong Ndong to go round the world with bags of money dishing out to talkingheads to paint a rosy picture of the regime? Asians even believe in witchcraft more than us,and are said to use it in business transactions around the world,but has that impacted them negatively? Certainly not. Cameroonian cannot do business in a country where all the institutions have been hld hostage.The legal framework gives no guarantie to investors,and over taxation runs business people down.

Flames,
Europeans must be consoling themselves to think that we love good life ,and would want to go there and stay on forever.Of course the guilt is too much for them,so they should continue to look for somebody to victime.If they were not seeking for good life ,they wouldn`t have come after our resources,and slavishly cling on to Africa today.The good life they think we enjoy there is incommensurate to the depletion of our resources they are involved in.The Doha Trade Talks can give you an insight into who these guys are.We are going to Europe to see what they have been doing with the resources they have been stealing for centuries.They should even be estatic to receive us there,because every table,blanket
,book has it roots back here.
Flames,the simple fact that we don`t have a common good for ourselves is not of our making.It is a fallout of the colonial mentality.The common good of the Europeans you celebrate is what stiffles our common good.If somebody thinks you are blind,and keep stealing your resources what will he do? He will do everything to promote divide and rule between you and your brothers.
Ahidjo was a natural leader,and did much for Cameroon,but the Europeans realised this ,and therefore trained a weapon to destroy our common good.Are we not living a nightmare brought about by this weapon ?
Flames Napoleone was definitely a fool.
He was carried away by the statement that," when you see Napoleon don`t attack,and when you see his Generals do".So he must have given a lot of confidence to his enemies,and that is how he met his Waterloo.In the Cameroonian situation,do you really expect us to continue dinning with a ferocious woe for more than 24 years ? You want us to keep cosying up to Biya the so as to study his ways ? 25 years is a lifetime for some people,and a very longtime in the history of a country.What have Cameroonians not done to study Biya`s way,what have they not put in place to make things better for themselves
to no avail?
Flames,you seem to make a lot of fuss about your fear for war,but get it clear from today,that the pschological war like the one we are living in Cameroon today is more crippling than physical conflict.When you suffer from psychologicsl castration,you
die slowly,and this slow death is very painful,as compared to someone who is shot in the battle field knowing fully what he was up to.Most of the wars that have been fought in the world come as a result of oppression in one way or the other.War is part of the solution to the difficult human existence.DEATH MAKES RENEWAL POSSIBLE.If you don`t fight,your children,and children`s
children will never have a good life.They will still suffer under the weight of oppression.The Asians we now quote everytime we want to show the wonders of human development,suffered colonialism,oppression from the hands of the Japanese,and Europeans
and fought them with all their might.
Flames,people don`t naturally see things in black ,and white,but when you distort the natural order of things as far as their existence is concerned,chaos sets in ,and they are bound to become extremist.
Flames when Europeans were sucking resources in Africa,how could they respect Asians? But today they have to respec Asians
because they have developped their countries with our resource,and need new markets in Asia to sell their services.They took us for fools,and exploited resources,now they take Asians for fools,because they have markets .
Flames this is the worst statement you can make to Cameroonian people wh have been living in misery for 25 years," Be patient,
study your adversary,work out a strategy ,and pursue it".This is just a call to maintain the status quo that Biya has been pretending to jealously safeguard.This is also a cll for people to forget questioning their existence.Its just like asking people to rot away,in short to stop existing.

[Watesih]

Errata
Talking about Europeans to Flames:
" Looking for somebody to victimise".

[nadikome]

Flames your postings make some sense but truly speaking there are many lapses. Seems you're clueless about what has been happening in Cameroon for the past 24 years under Paul Biya Ni Mvondo's rule unlike when Ahidjo was in power.

As a Southern Cameroonian,i believe we had been very intelligent people from scratch. We knew and still know what we want and good for us but we were deceived somehow somewhere by our own people to join LRC. We have started the fight to secede. And there is no turning Back ! No one can stop it.

Flames, you need to learn from people like Watesih, Fon and a few others in this forum. who argue reasonably, and having diveversed solutions to any problem that crops up. We the SC must fight for our freedom come rain or shine for our self-determination.

Flames, how dare you say "As a good example look at China. For folks in Cameroon, they should note Europeans seem to respect Asians more than Africans. Why? Asians defined what they needed and got it. They did not need to make armed uprisings but careful juggling of politics."

You have really forgotten basic facts in African history. The Europeans are deep throated people and egoistic, they have always depended on the natural resources from Africa for their development, and even after they must have done this for centuries to develop their respective countries, in return they inoculated our children with HIV/AIDS in the name of Vaccines.....and a host of other bad things, not forgetting the Lake Nyos stuff and they went with it unaccountable. This is because they put their agents in power and arm them to teeth to kill their own people in case of any uprising or when they cry foul. Look we are not Blind,Flames we know what has been happening, and we cannot continue to see it happen. So rather than trying to console yourself, and trying to forget the basic facts....please join the fight to liberate SCs from LRC. Cuz nothing good will come from this union that has not come for almost half a century.

Further you talk of the Francophone complaining, yes! if they are complaining then... we have the right to fight and further secede, cuz the marriage is not working. We joined them willingly and we don't find any problem leaving the union, besides we have the natural resources but gain nothing from the union, we joined the union on equal terms with La Republic. So thats a mistake you are making comparing the SCs with La Republic in terms of who should complain and who should not. Its their system whether they complain or not they have nothing to Lose, we are the Losers. We do not belong to them. It shows and its clearly written on the walls. If you do not have eyes to see please its better you start using reading Glasses.

We should have gone far vis-a-vis development if these barriers were not put on our way. Does this mean we never defined what we wanted or never defined our goals? But this must Stop. Long before unification the SC had her system of government which was very democratic, flawless,respect of human rights,and the people of this region had very original and clean ideas for the common good of their people. The reverse is taking place now after joining La Republic. Asians especially Chinese are filthy, born thieves, Pirates and problematic, even clueless in spite of the economic boom. An Africa, talk less about Cameroonians, we are fine man. Better off. Forget about their infrastructure, and their economic boom of 10.9%, man. We still beat them hands down. About 3/4 of the Asian population still lives on one dollar a day, talk less about Chinese. You need to visit China and see for yourself. Forget about the ergo boosting write ups or what you watch over the media over there. All that is Bullshit and boring. Give SC her independence now, they do what Asian has never dreamt of doing or what has taken them 20 years to build, SC would use half of these number of years.

Flames, we the SC will fight to restore our nation.And we shall rule it the way we want, and we shall see how you will start comparing us with Asians. Wonders shall never end !

[flames]

Great! Lets discuss more....

Dear Ma Mary,

With all respect, even if your adversary praises you, does not mean that you are an adversary. Likewise if Ricardo praises me, don't use that to point I'm way off. By the way I was not writing this article to draw praise or acclaim. Instead I want people to do some deep thinking and avoid staying at the surface only.

Why? With time we have come to learn that the history we learned when we were kids have been quite distorted and it in the present world , it is very difficult to know the truth.

Now, do not get me wrong: I have no praise for the Cameroonian government. I state here over and over again that it is is rotten and corrupt to the core! But who is the government. Who gives it power to operate? The people! Do you wish to get back your power? Yes! I support that but as I do repeat, think about the methodology. Stop being conditioned by movie scenarios that getting into a quick fight will give the relief; even at the cost of sacrificing some lives in the process. Hey, look at the Israel-Palestinian conflict. It has lasted for quite a longer time than I could remember and do you think the Palestinians are not involved in an armed struggle? What keeps them from winning? I have met Israelis and Palestinians and permit here to say: the state of Israel continues to exist because the Jews are quite crafty and they have a large support base in the US. Now back to our context, I do not object against people fighting for their rights but what I wish to say is that we should fight wisely. If you think to fight a tyrant by shooting stones at his soldiers and win, then you may need to reconsider that option. It may require you to get as powerful as his soldiers to win but there comes the trap: you do not get powerful at no cost. You may sell and mortgage your country's wealth to acquire weapons and thus in the process you are subdued to those who controlled your tyrant.

Now before I proceed, a recommended historical figure here should be Ghandi. He did not take stones or guns to get the liberation of his people but being a genius in tackling the British government he achieved what dozens of african rebels have not been able to achieved. Of course he gave up his life in the process but is worthwhile. So please understand I stand for a fight to get back our values and rights but the manner of fighting determines the victory or defeat. If you are not yet convinced ask yourself why Mandela was locked in prison? He did some form of fighting, which now could be called terrorism and was actually caught when he was to install a bomb in a white residential area(Read more on this in his autobiography) but that did not achieve South Africa's independence. Instead it his Ghandi's style of politics later on that gave south Africa its taste of liberty.

Oho.. that brings into mind something: many people like talking of revolution and fail to see how to deal with the aftermath. When slaves were freed in America and Europe, it was not easy for them to integrate (although freedom was better than slavery and the whites still never wanted them to integrate)since they were now experiencing a new reality. It is like getting up one day with millions of dollars appearing in your bank account out of a sudden. Do not laugh but humans do not easily cope with sudden change unless they are fully prepared for those changes.
For those who advocate the swift transformations, have they envisage how things will be dealt later? Maybe.

I agree with you that most problems came from annexation. Nevertheless annexation came from colonialism too and even the aspect of independence was a farce. At "independence", Europeans handed powers to their puppet African leaders, while the wiser ones were disposed of. Ahidjo, which you praise was a puppet too. He invited French troops after "independence" to deal with his so-called UPC terrorists leading to the estimated deaths of about 40000 Cameroonians! Read more about this here: http://www.dibussi.com/2006/11/frances_dirty_w_3.html

The major difference with the present government is that he realized his errors and the French replaced him as they will normally replace any puppet who cuts off his strings. In my own opinion, there can really be no total freedom in Africa if:
1. Africans do not learn to trust each other
2. Practise common good for their own general interest
3. Avoid leaning to colonial imperialism to mask your culture(as someone praised you about the EMPIRE day. Do you see the effect of the word EMPIRE, in which you thought the English culture was yours but you were not considered equal enough to have same rights and privileges as British citizens in Cameroon?)
4. Africans have to be politically mature (This means we avoid the clichés and think progressive, criticize constructively and listen to all ideas even from the dull and ignorant) and should note business and politics always play a game of marriage, which have to be checked else the business class controls the politics branch (e.g Corporate Politics in the USA)

Dear Mr. Watesih, you said my statement of patience is the worst statement ever made but let me assure you: "Patience is a virtue" If something is not realizable in your current generation, does not mean it will not place later on. I know sincerely you want the things to change for the better and I do pray along with you.

From the beginning, the state of politics was deteriorating very fast in Cameroon before suddenly going out of control. Ask yourself today, when many Cameroonians are corrupt to the core, will they overnight learn good values and abide by it? If possible, that is an utopia. How many Cameroonian families today do not indirectly teach their younger generation to get the best things in an aggressive competitive manner? If you think I am joking or lying, do a check amongst friends and families, who have had some persons in positions of responsibility. I have seen cases where family members get angry with their kin, because he behaved "foolishly" by not "eating as much" as his predecessor in a high-end job, or that he naive not to grab his own "share of the cake"

So tell me Mr. Watesih have you got a plan on what you will do, when a "quick" change comes in handy? How will align people on the right path? If yes please share it on this forum (unless for security and plan-safety reasons, you may be disposed not to share it) If no, then start doing some thinking about it!

[flames]

error:

the French in post-independent Cameroon killed about 4000 Cameroonians NOT 40000!

[Pikin]

Flames, your last post was a powerful statement, all the things I have wanted to say but had neither the time nor the patience to craft the sentences.

Back to Biya's speech, it's amazing how he refers to us the youth as the future of Cameroon when those in his 'circle of friends' have been recycled around key government and ministerial positions for nearly a quarter of a century! When will the 'future' of Cameroon ever have a shot at these jobs? How are we ever gonna run a country when the Cameroonian youth languishes in chomencam and when the more fortunate ones seek greener pastures in the white man's land?

But everything goes through change and nothing last forever. Hope he finds comfort in the fate of the Amin Dadas and Mobutu's of this world.

Happy Valentines Day! and for those without a valentine, there's always the pillow!

[felix]

Flames
This is the Best of the Best article I had ever read on this forum.
Our colonial Masters must be happy that their well thought plan succeeded to polarized Africans and keep them divided.
Its quite a shame that some Africans (SCNC) Clamors for uniqueness by calling them selves Aglo...... or Franco.... on the other Hand.
They still carry along them the Colonial mentality of Empire being it that of British or French. As you rightly put let them asked if their Anglo/Franco-colonial heritage which they claim makes them British or French.
Its a shame that most people have lost the sense of belonging and live with a Stockholm syndrome from the colonial Masters who is rubbing us off our heritage and still imposing his whims and Caprices on us.
Flames we need moderate voices like you to help us know where we belong and where we are coming from.

[Riccardo]

Patriots and Progressive Cameroonians,

Felix,Flames and millions of intelligent, toughtful, loving, mature Cameroonians have learnt that tribalism, division, bigotry, hate will never solve the problems our Country is facing today...

The ennemies of our poor people are both the corrupt, arrogant, incompetent thieves MEMBERS of the GOP and those who are seeking to divide us to institutionalize tribalism, ethnic cleansing in our beloved motherland.

Patriots and Progressive Cameroonians, stay the course. We are winning and we shall overcome...

May God bless a united and strong democratic Republic of Cameroon.

Riccardo
CAADIM

[Watesih]

Flames,
You make some pertinent points in your writeup.We don`t have to hide anything ,even for security reasons.Biya has even copied many things from the SDF,only to dump them in the waste basket.Dear Flames you spend the better part of your writeups trying to show how costly,and dangerous war is.You are surely making a projection into the future ,that if we have to fight then we should know the repercussions.But the question now is,have we been fighting a war for the past 24 years? Your answer is that we should be patient because patience is a virtue.I must let you know that patience has a limit.Experience has shown that as far as political power is concerned ,you will never bank on patience.You have given examples where leaders defied authority and fought for a long time.Mandela did this,and even the non-violence of Ghandi had to do with people blocking public space.In France in 1789 ,for the Monarchy to be overthrown,the people had to storm the Bastille.The Americans are what they are today because they rejected the extra three pence on tea,
and fought to bring about their Nation.The Palestinians you like refering to have been fighting hard,and got back much of the land that was seized from them in 1967.These examples i have given point to the fact that after being patient for another 30 years,the
French sponsored agents in Yaounde will naturally hand power to one of theirs,while the people keep swimming in misery.
Flames,nobody from the Southern Cameroons has claimed to be British.You know as i do that when you learn a country`s language,you also learn the culture of the people of that country.The people of the Southern Cameroons have learnt the British culture through the English language.This British culture lay emphasis on democratic ideals,equality, little interferance.These are the ideals the people of Southern Cameroons identify themselves with,not Britain.This is opposed to the French language ,where if we have to learn the French culture through it,we discover that the French are interventionist
in nature,and inherently exploitative.Lets get the facts clear,Southern Cameroons are not craving for British Nationality.They are craving for a common set of values that they share with the British.
Finally,lets look at the three points you made about.
1. Africans do not learn to trust each other: You are African,how can you trust somebody who puts togethe his government with the help of the French,cuts the forest ,sells to them and doesn`t show you the money,pays fools from France who have never been to school 2 million a month,and pay you who has gone to school for 25 years 90,000frs.
2. I have already shown in my previous write up that the Europeans will never allow us to show goodwill to each other,because we will become one ,and turn our backs on them.
3. Southern cameroonians are not British citizens,so the British citizens who are in cameroon are not our compatriots.We have leanrt the English culture and identify ourselves with its democratic principles.
4. You are right that we should criticize constructively,and listen to even the dull.Then we also have to mature politically.

[rexon]

Flames,

I must admit that i do share some of your concerns. After a deep reflection on several socio-political dynamics, i have decided to take a position that incorporates some of the values and ideas you cited above even before you pasted this article. I have been a big fan of politics since the inception of multi-party democracy in the 1990's. I have studied the different socio-political constructs that influences our support and loyalty to different political leaders. Several issues have influeced the way we tend to pay unquestionable allegiance to different political leaders and they originates from the different socio-political constructs you cited above.

Take for example the SDF. It has seemingly been reduced of recent to more or less a North West Party. One might question why despite the fact that the party is loosing grounds in other provinces, it is still very popular in areas where there is a significant population of North West/grassfield Heritage (Tiko, Mutengene, Ekona, Kumba, Limbe urban, Molyko, Muea, Western Province, Some areas of Douala, etc) or the North West itself.

But saying that you can be neutral in such difficult times is a significant call for concern. Neutrality might be that, you support the current status quo and is benefitting from it. Take for example the recent world events and world wars. History and research has proven that, nations that has claimed neutrality has seemingly benefitted from the war than anyone else. The Swedish Economy for example developed significantly during the war and after as a result of swedish companies notable SKF trading arms with the allies and their enemies despite its claim of neutrality in the international media. Even in the recent Iraq war, their position as usual was neutral, but they did benefitted financially from the war as they were still supplying arms to America and its allies. They are not alone and there are many more countries that took thesame position seemingly because they did'nt want to hamper their economic interest with the different warring parties.

What i think you need to tell the world is that, a proper understanding of a socio-political construct is very important before engagement to issues with a high degree of socio-political sensitivity. That might influence ones interpretation of the socio-political and economic dynamics and the dominant communicative patterns that defines their societies.

I take a stand for the SCNC and its sister organisations that supports the Southern Cameroonian independence because:

1- There has been a clear thought and well conceived plan to colonise the Southern Cameroons for the economic and financial interest of France and La Republique at the expense of the Southern Cameroons economic development and socio-political empowerment.

Other remote reasons relate to:

2- Differences in our ethnolinguistic identity and cultural heritage.

3-Language policy and planning and its implication in the governance of that failed union. Here, i evaluated how language (English and French) is used as a determining element in defining social and cultural identities, in particular in relation to minority vs. majority groups, urban vs. periphery and how that influences political and economic decisions. I ask questions like, is the minority being engaged by the majority and is the majority thinking or willing in doing so? In this majority, i reflect and ask how the majority thinks? Why call others and anglo-fool and how is that interpreted in a socio-political context? Why should a minister, parliamentarian be bold enough to ban another persons language and what text governs his decision to do so?

We go to school to be able to learn and engage what we have learnt in different context. Anyone who reads several postings in this forum and is of Southern Cameroonian heritage and still continue to support this failed Union with La Republique is not doing so in good faith.

To be continued.................

[Ebonylad]

The same old stories even in new times.
We wanna build our state of Cameroon from Limbe to Nkambe,Maroua to Abong Mbang,through Kribi and back to Limbe by ourselves and no longer want Biya and his folks to tell us the status quo and strategies.
However,this forum is not SCNC's.
Our problems are corruption and poverty.Our solutions should be learning from experience.

[rexon]

Fon,

Listen to yourself:

"I have said here many times that there is no single reason that one can advance to compare the longivity of an opposition leader at the helm of a party with that of a president in power. You can´t expect me to critize an opposition leader who has not yet had the chance to rule. The focus of the SDF should be solely to accede to power and not who should head the SDF. When the SDF is in power, that is when we will be able to access them and make critisms"

It is shameful, really shameful that you can make such a statement. I wonder why someones brains can be reduced to what his tribemen ro relative have to say or do everytime even when wrong.

[rexon]

Sorry for the distraction. I think this story is interesting.

I very much accept with Katakata that the journalist for this story was more interested in having his name signed at the bottom of his story. There are several lines and information in the story that are missing, inadequate and faulty.

It was on Monday afternoon that I was informed that the "13 year old girl abortion story" had appeared in the Post. Bought a Post News Paper that evening and very disatisfied. I am the Roland, whose name appears on the News Paper has having paid the bills. I was not paying it bacause I needed to be mentioned on some News Paper, but for the sake of humanity.Putting a few things right,

- First, the little girl is not 13years but 16years old. Thus I find the caption of 13years written only to captivate the minds of reader.

- Second, the child was not driven from home by the Auntie. That is why it was very
important for the Journalist in qestion to be in contact with the Auntie of the Child before posting out such cruel remarks. I am not sure Mama Rebeca will love to hear this.

I was to Mile 16 on the 1st of February to visit my grand Mother, when I met the Mirabel incident.(Mirabel is the name of the girl.) She was sitting in a Palm wine drinking hut, when suddenly the supposed Mr Ferdinard arrived and started shouting at her to stop spreading false information about him. Thats what caught my attention, and as I moved closer to find out what the matter was, discovered several other hard to believe accounts..

- First, Mirabel claimed she had been given a drug to drink and another inserted in her vagina by Ferdinand, two months ago. The drugs, she claims was given to her to abort her one month old pregnancy. She claimed thrice she had refused to take the drug but due to pressure from Ferdinand was forced to take it. Note: She was co-living with Ferdinand during this period. Ferdinand refused the charge and claim he had only given her drugs for headache.

- Mirabel claimed the pregnancy was Betrands ( Betrand lives in mile 16 and is a neigbour to Ferdinand.) Betrand whose parents had been notified about the pregancy refused authorship. His excuse was that Mirabel had slept with almost every male in Mile 16.

Mirabel who had started vomiting by now, also said she was having severe pains in her abdomen and had been having smelling discharges over the past two weeks. Several suggestions were coming forth with several persons pointing a finger at Ferdinand and claiming he was capable of the act.
Others said, the girl was too irresponsible to point a finger at anybody. Thats when I
noticed the so called Mayulo. As much as he was concerned for the girls health, I realised he had scores to setlle with Ferdinand and so wanted him brought to shame.

- Thankfully enough the yielded to my sugesstion. As much as I suggested that the matter needs to be carried to the Police, since it involved the false usage of drugs for the intent of abortion, I was also mindful of the fact that the girls health was of immerse importance.

Thus, she was not picked at the roadside in a pool of "bleed" and carried to St Albert as the journalist wrote. My sugesstion was that since she had taken some unknown tablets, it was important she had an echography done, to be sure the Child in her womb was still alive, and that she was in good health. Ferdinand was not in support of the idea, and it only took my hard stand that I will call the Police Commisioner, before he yielded. For fear of having Ferdinand dump her somewhere, I decided to use my Car for the Hospital Trip. Mayunlo opted to go as well, as he thought Ferdinand might escape in my custody..lol After visiting three dispensaries which had no acess to Echography, we setlled for St Albert. After a series of test, it was discovered that the foetus of about four months had been affected and Mirabel
had just began to bleed. By this time her counternance had changed and she was getting weaker with need for serious and urgent medical help.

You all know the way Hospitals work with Cash deposit. Mirabels situation had gotten severe and Ferdinand who up to now, was still refusing had never given her drugs had nothing more to add to the 5.000frs he had already spend on the tests. As much as I felt the concern, desire and sympathy to reach out financially to save her life, I also realised I was a nobody who knew little or nothing about the girl. We are Cameroonians and we know ourselves. If the negative did occur, no one will beleive you were actually helping out. You could even be branded as the author of the pregnancy...lol Thats when I decided to meet the family. She gave me her aunties number wich kept singing,,, The number you trying to call is
not.....

- While allowing her in the Hospital with Ferdinand and Mayunlo I then had to drive to Tiko to check on her Aunt. Was not easy locating her, but as she said she hailed from Nkambe, a Nkambe lady finally carried me to thier house. Contrary to the stories I had heard in Mile 16, that she ran away from home because it was a "caraboat" house with no food, The house was a well build block apartment. After introducing myself I told her Auntie my mission.

_ Her Auntie at first refused to go with us, as she claimed she had no money in the house and Mirabel has been of unbearable behaviour. According to her Auntie, Cousins at home and even neighbours, Mirabel suddenly started this outside life style two years ago. Mirabel who is her grand niece has been staying with her ever since she was 5. Although not brilliant in school had always been a good girl, not untill she started meeting men around Tiko. Stopped school in Primary 5.Has been temporary out of the house for 5months before this recent incident. Shocking to note that she had been to the house three days before this
Mile 16 incident. Two boys brought her home from Muea, who sawe her looking sick. Upon
arrival at home, her cousins asked her to apologise to her Aunt, but she refused and decided to leave the house even without being driven away.

- It might interest you to know that this is not the first time Mirabel is getting involved with a bout of boys. Her Auntie with tears recounted the last incident that had her going to the Gendamarie in Tiko everyday. That was about June 2006. Mirabel left the house and was cohabitting with a boy in the interiors of the Tiko Beach area. She was only located with the help of tribesmen who are in the Army. But even as she was brought back home during that
period she was discovered pregnant. Was never easy for her to show who the father was, as according to her aunt, cousins and neighbours she had slept with atleast 15boys and didnot know who to chose. The incident caused a severe Gendarme scandal, with her Auntie recounting how the Gendarme will
run out of their bench, go outside and laugh at the fun of a girl sleeping with somany
boys and not knowing who is responsible. Finally she pointed at a guy whom her auntie
claims its because he was from a rich family. That not withstanding, because of the complexity of her undeveloped womb, age and cervix she had to do with a D and C.

-Finally I was able to have Mama Rebeca follow us to the Hospital. She Spend nights with Mirabel at the Hospital untill she was discharged. This time despite the complexity of her cervix and worsened by the fact that they were two foetus in her womb, I am happy the Lord still worked his Miracles and she came out alive. Shocking tale, Huh ? Costed me 90.000Frs
for her medical bills, but what is that compared to the satisfaction that a life was saved.

She is once more living in thier house and I am sure with her last painful and near death
ordeal she will see a need for a new lift. I might need some expert help here. I think
Katakata who has been quite interested in this page can be of help. I am thinking of a way of helping her out. But with her level of just Class 5, I am wondering what to do. She says she wants to learn Hair dressing..What you think?

-One last thing, Ferdinand, Betrand and all those who might have slept with her are all
living in Mile 16 and didnot run to anywhere. Ferdinand was in the Hospital on the First day and after that stopped coming. I have never been able to see Betrand. I learned he is an Aperentice Photographer at Maryland Photos, Molyko. I have been there twice but he was on break. Ferdinand is a clandestine driver at the Mile 17 Park. Drives the Douala line.I only wanted Mirabel fully restored to health so she herself can put the facts straight infront of the Police for justice to prevail; as much she herself facing the consequences of her actions.

Some very important facts:

- Mirabel to the best of my knowledge has always been well treated at home. She did acknowledge to me of having the best of treatment at home and yet abusing it, thus no more blames for Mama Rebeca..

- Mirabel accepted to me and the Public that she had been having sexual affairs with
Ferdinand even before she got pregnant for Betrand. Such affairs often took place in
abandoned cars in the mile 17 Motopark.

- Mirabel though in her 16, has co-lived with boys in Muea, Mile 16, Tiko, Great Soppo...

- Before the incident of the 1st of February, it had been 6 weeks since Ferdinand last saw Mirabel. The last time he saw Mirabel was when Mirabel brought a boy to his house and pleaded with him to act like his elder brother. The boy whom Mirabel says lives in Soppo, was her boyfriend who wanted to help her.

Thank You
Roland (Alias Lexus)

Posted by: Rolandlexus | Tuesday, 13 February 2007 at 07:19 AM

[tayong]

Flames and Felix

Gentlemen ,get this right.Any Tom and Dick can jump up and start saying patata patati but the cankerworm that eats deep into our society if not incised will continure to run riot.

Trying to play the role of the old fox wont get us an inch of progress but calling a spade by its rightful name will do just the opposite. Hear you.."Its quite a shame that some Africans (SCNC) Clamors for uniqueness by calling them selves Aglo...... or Franco.... on the other Hand"...

If you have some knowledge of international law you wouldnt say what you said above. Any society that has adopted a culture for more than 30 years has canons of that culture directly or indirectly enshrined into its constitution(written or unwritten),culture,etc and therefore make that culture part and parcel of their way of life.

Southern Cameroon isn't an exception, all countries that had had that relationship do. We aren't British but we have British culture as part and parcel of us. Take it or leave it! Aboriginals arn't British but they are part and parcel of British culture nor are Quebecois French.

It took energy ,determination and lives ,property etc etc to create the GCE Board , the only structure that represents the Western Cameoon system of Education. Why all these when they were "right minded" people like you who could see that we're all africans and should respect each other's cultural identity?

Cameroonians of the English expressions are made to take exams based on the French syllabus and worst still some of the exams they take in French. Is this not happening under the watchful eyes of your likes who pretend we're one and therefore should make things easy for each other?

Gentleman, Southern Cameroonians voted to form a bicultural nation with La Republique but La Republique later annuled the Constitution leaving Southern Cameroon with only one choice.Thats the bitter truth.Face it or fight it!

Flames
You should ask yourself if fighting corruption will begin with the man on the street or the Ondo Ndongs and Biya himself?
If you follow world politics you'll see that Ghana is fast becoming a model in African and the world. Did they fight corruption buttom-up or top-buttom?

You also failed to address the burning issues plaguing Cameroon.No wishy washy talk can solve the nation's problems but hard talk and obejectivity will do.

Ricardo
You failed woefully to get some authenticity before Cameroonians with your sing song of united Cameroon when one of yours, Ahmadou Ali showed his real colours banning one of the official languages of The Cameroons .He did that with impunity and went unpunished by your man Biya. You showed complacency or better still, you were simply yourself.
May God save us from unsrcupolous men.

Tayong

[Ma Mary]

Hello Flames:
I think you downplayed the number of people killed by the French to 4000. The estimates vary widely. There are a few sources that put it as high as 600,000. 4000 could well be the figure advertised by the French govt. At the end of the day, there is no conclusive figure, but 4000 appears to be a serious undercounting of what amounted to a genocide of the Bamilekes and to a lesser degree, the Bassas.

You made some nice points, but you have seriously mistated or misunderstood the motivation of the Southern Cameroons independence movement. Becoming free Africans is a process, and the worst thing that happened to the two Cameroons was the joining, because by joining, we automatically became ground zero of the French jihad against what they view as the anglosaxon influence in Africa and its encroachment on their private hunting ground.

The French are the most significant enemy of the African project, because Afrocentricism is anathema to the francophonie. Thinking African, being African does not lend itself easily to being exploited by the French, culturally and economically.

The French hold on la Republique du Cameroun from 1918 or so, was the cultural equivalent of catching AIDS, a deadly disease to the African being. The UPC was created in 1948 as a cure for that disease. It was seriously suppressed by the French and the process did not kill just 4000 people.

La Republique was still suffering from French AIDS when we Southern Cameroons arrived. Our presence created a problem, because now there was a distraction. La republique became dysfunctional and would no longer address its French AIDS problem, because now their oppressor points at us and says that is your cousin living with you. He has anglosaxon witchcraft. He is the enemi dans la maison, the biafran, your inferior.

We need to be separate so we can process things properly and become Africans. African unity does not have to be born in this kind of crucible of suffering. We can be separate countries and yet united as Africans. Europeans learned 60 years ago, that the method of Napoleon and Hitler and Charlemagne of joining countries by force through conquest and coercion does not work. Voluntary cooperation is the way to go.

Flame, where were you in the early 1990s when the All Anglophone Conferences held and sent letters informing Biya and la republique that we were not happy about the state of the union and needed dialogue and some changes. This is about 14 years later, still no dialogue from la republique. We have practiced the methods of Gandhi that you are talking about. When Ayamba and Nfor gave a press conference and allowed themselves to be arrested and locked up, what do you call that? Is that any different from Ghandi-style civil disobedience.

Please, cannot lecture us on these things. Go and talk to la Republique. We have processed all these things that you are talking about already, and we are now taking a stand. You are late. The train has left the station and is not coming back. I instantly became wary of you, when you spoke about being neutral. That is the worst thing a person could say if a dog is chewing his leg. Is it MY LEG? No it is OUR LEG. I am presume you are a Southern Cameroonian. If you are not, my apologies, because in which case you are only doing your thing.

[TabiSweden]

Hahahahaha!!!!!!
So as per the Biya regime, when there is unemployment, a partial solution will be to focus on the educational system or open new schools. This should be Strange then because commonsense will tell us that this will instead increase the unemployment rate in the country if other sectors are held constant. Why not attempt to encourage and attract investors into the country who might end up creating jobs for the unemployed youths? or is it forbidden to use a large portion of the HIPC funds to open new companies? We have to think and think well.........

[TabiSweden]

Can you listen to Biya saying that the youths are the future of tomorrow? This should imply that they are the back borne of a prosperous future Cameroon. Why then are decisions taken without the consent of some one or a group of persons whom you strongly believe have some thing to greatly offer to this nation in the future? I think the youths should have a more than 50% opinion in the decision making process in Cameroon if truly they matter as Biya claims.

[andre fokam]

Flames
good writes up. may your flames continue to shine.
but don't be afraid, our country is peaceful because our people are committed to peace- period.
disregard all these shameless people based abroad calling for war. only them will fight their wars. they have chosen to remain in their illusions, it is their choice, it is democracy. i used to contribute more regularly on this forum and believe me, 3 years ago, it was the same rethoric. they were saying this and this is imminent..., i am still waiting. the debate has not moved, i told ma mary in December 2004 that come december 2050, she will be chanting the same song...if she chooses to, so far i am still right. my visit to cameroon last year even reinforced my belief that we are moving further away from violent resolution of our problems, Cameroonian in their poverty, have learn to appreciate our greatest asset. PEACE. war monger will hate this comment, but let them prove me wrong with actions, not write ups on this forum, i want them to prove me wrong by refering me to pages on BBC.co.uk or cnn.com or whatever reporting chaos in our dear land.
some people are chewing their stomach because Cameroon is moving forward (although slow for my liking), they are loosing weigth because they haven't heard of a mortar being fire on yaounde city center, they haven't been appointed ministers or queen of bananambazonia. Cameroon is in peace and " les jaloux vont maigrire".

'failure to identify the real problem lead to wrong solutions- no matter your intelligence"
brothers, let focus on our real problem.
nepotism, corruption, dictatorship, laziness.

Andre Fokam

[tayong]

Andre Fokam

Why wouldn't you streotype others are war mongers when yours are on the plume tree.
When Mandela was fighting apatheid in South Africa , advocates for no change in the status quo like you called him psychopath.

When we stood up against Njeuma and Rene Ze Nguela against the annihilation of The West Cameroon Sýllabus for Education your likes called us separatist,

When Azong Wara championed the cause for the creation of an independent body to carter for the West Cameroon examinations, your gists called it a filibiuster ,

When Cameroonians led by Yondo Black marched demanding that Cameroon follow the rest of the world to institute democracy ,Biya cautioned and advised by informats of your type went to the Glass House and hit his hand on the table and said..."le Cameroun n'est pas mûre pour la democratie.."

etc etc etc .....

Today we have democracy
Today we have the GCE Board
Today we have SDF ,UNPD UPC, etc etc
Today the Ondo Ndongs behind bars.
.....and you are benefitting while calling others war mongers.
God bless you. But remember justice and truth will prevail over oppression.
Tayong

[Sophie2]

First of all the fact that we can sit down and think of ways to better our motherland has to be appreciated, there’s one thing that is common to every in this forum; we all wish Cameroon was a better place and we all are ready to do something to see this happen. It does not matter whether you think a solution will come by secession or by voting Fru Ndi to power or maintaining Paul Biya in power.
Polarisation is something I find very prominent in our people. It’s like you have to be either something or the other, you have to say things that completely tie with the views of Fru Ndi if not you are not for him, like wise with Paul Biya. I see this as the legacy of religion in which you are either for God or for Satan and you don’t actually have a chance to be neither nor. Yet they say God gave us a free will, what if I don’t like heaven and at the same time I don’t like hell, where do I fall?
For us to be mature as human being we need to educate ourselves up to the level where we know people can actually disagree with us without actually being against us.
Talking about flames I’ll like to say I truly like what he says and I wish above all things that he is sincere and it gives me confidence that there are people in Cameroon who can impact change, that not withstanding if you read his write-ups between the line you see that either consciously or unconsciously he has portrayed quite well that he has a motive of writing what he is writing. The motive, I don’t know. I’ll not do you more injustice but allow express you freedom of speech.
Talking about outside influence on African issues I’ll quote Martin Luther King Jr. ‘If a man’s back is not bent another man cannot ride him’ Why can white people not put the same influence on Chinese or Indians so as to ruin their economies?
Tell me which white man held a gun on Mobotu Sesse or Sani Abacha’s head and asked them to steal the money they stole? The earlier we realise what is wrong with us and not others, and start thinking of solving the problem individually the better.
We need to seek to know what unites us as Cameroonian first then as Africans and then as black people, until then, dividing ourselves on linguistic lines, imposed on us by foreigners is just an exhibition of our ignorance. Nobody in his right mind will think that Southern Cameroon will be a better place. What makes a prosperous country is a strong internal economy which in many cases is supported by big population (a big consumer base) which we don’t have. Our economy will need to depend on exporting raw materials which have proven to be more of a cause than a blessing to many African countries. Why will anybody think an Independent southern Cameroon will be different?
I have in this write up decided not to use any party names or organisations because as far as I am concern there are no political parties in Cameroon. People don’t vote for the CPDM they vote for Paul BIYA coz he’s paid them to do so.
Whether Paul Biya likes it or not there are going to be signoficant change in Cameroon sooner than later, We all are humans and live under the same natural laws and when nature calls everybody will bow. Braze yourselves young Cameroonians, the long awaited time is coming whether the old people like it or not our time is ripe.
Somebody criticised me for saying that higher education is good thing, I have never heard that America is what it is coz they have technical schools and stuff like that but what you’ll accept with me is that there are great universities in America. In fact I have never seen a technical school in Europe or America. At least you see people doing apprenticeship but not technical schools. Cameroon needs big entrepreneurs not a flood of buyam sellams.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH CAMEROON AND AFRICA ALARGE IS A BELIEF PROBLEM NOT BIYA, MOBOTU, ABACHA, THE FRENCH, THE ENGLISH OR THE AMERICANS

[Sophie2]

First of all the fact that we can sit down and think of ways to better our motherland has to be appreciated, there’s one thing that is common to every in this forum; we all wish Cameroon was a better place and we all are ready to do something to see this happen. It does not matter whether you think a solution will come by secession or by voting Fru Ndi to power or maintaining Paul Biya in power.
Polarisation is something I find very prominent in our people. It’s like you have to be either something or the other, you have to say things that completely tie with the views of Fru Ndi if not you are not for him, like wise with Paul Biya. I see this as the legacy of religion in which you are either for God or for Satan and you don’t actually have a chance to be neither nor. Yet they say God gave us a free will, what if I don’t like heaven and at the same time I don’t like hell, where do I fall?
For us to be mature as human being we need to educate ourselves up to the level where we know people can actually disagree with us without actually being against us.
Talking about flames I’ll like to say I truly like what he says and I wish above all things that he is sincere and it gives me confidence that there are people in Cameroon who can impact change, that not withstanding if you read his write-ups between the line you see that either consciously or unconsciously he has portrayed quite well that he has a motive of writing what he is writing. The motive, I don’t know. I’ll not do you more injustice but allow express you freedom of speech.
Talking about outside influence on African issues I’ll quote Martin Luther King Jr. ‘If a man’s back is not bent another man cannot ride him’ Why can white people not put the same influence on Chinese or Indians so as to ruin their economies?
Tell me which white man held a gun on Mobotu Sesse or Sani Abacha’s head and asked them to steal the money they stole? The earlier we realise what is wrong with us and not others, and start thinking of solving the problem individually the better.
We need to seek to know what unites us as Cameroonian first then as Africans and then as black people, until then, dividing ourselves on linguistic lines, imposed on us by foreigners is just an exhibition of our ignorance. Nobody in his right mind will think that Southern Cameroon will be a better place. What makes a prosperous country is a strong internal economy which in many cases is supported by big population (a big consumer base) which we don’t have. Our economy will need to depend on exporting raw materials which have proven to be more of a cause than a blessing to many African countries. Why will anybody think an Independent southern Cameroon will be different?
I have in this write up decided not to use any party names or organisations because as far as I am concern there are no political parties in Cameroon. People don’t vote for the CPDM they vote for Paul BIYA coz he’s paid them to do so.
Whether Paul Biya likes it or not there are going to be signoficant change in Cameroon sooner than later, We all are humans and live under the same natural laws and when nature calls everybody will bow. Braze yourselves young Cameroonians, the long awaited time is coming whether the old people like it or not our time is ripe.
Somebody criticised me for saying that higher education is good thing, I have never heard that America is what it is coz they have technical schools and stuff like that but what you’ll accept with me is that there are great universities in America. In fact I have never seen a technical school in Europe or America. At least you see people doing apprenticeship but not technical schools. Cameroon needs big entrepreneurs not a flood of buyam sellams.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH CAMEROON AND AFRICA ALARGE IS A BELIEF PROBLEM NOT BIYA, MOBOTU, ABACHA, THE FRENCH, THE ENGLISH OR THE AMERICANS

[GilbertChina]

I will like to take us back to the recent visit of President Hu and wife( China's president) to Cameroon. I applaud the kind natured Chinese but hope our leaders will also learn to forge our country ahead. With the vast nature of unemployment in our country, youths don't longer see it necessary to stay in Cameroon. Let's not use this forum to divide or preach what won't help us. Let's retrospect ourselves and see where we are lacking to table our complains to the authority as the headstate has rightfully said, hoping that they take immediate actions. One great ruler once said "....ask what you've done for your country and not what your country has done for you". Let the brothers who are making it abroad, don't stay back to wait on a Government that will never make a step. If all those who were sent abroad by some means of the tax payer's money; were so kind enough to enable the private sector gain grounds in Cameroon, Cameroonians won't ever dream of the public sectors or going for greener pastures if ever they've been green. Let's learn from the hard working Chinese. Each time I watch a documentary on Namibia on CCTV9 the only English TV Channel in China, I'm really ashamed calling myself a Cameroonian. When did Namibia gain its independence? Namibia's economy is blooming like the morning rose.
There's something, I would like to mention here, Cameroonians in China are looked upon as conmen just everywhere. Immediately the Chinese immigration police picks up a passport with Cameroon written on it, it changes hands as though all Cameroonians were thieves. It's due to the spirit we've grown in, that gets our brothers wanting to be billionaires over night. A city of Guangxi province in China, is a hell to most Cameroonians. The police in this city does't want to see or hear of Cameroon due to some bad mannered brothers. They don't only dupe chinese but also dupe their own brothers back home that there are job opportunities in China. This deciet ends most of our brothers on the streets of major cities in China. Not that Cameroonians don't teach in China but one should be very clear and sure that a school has hired him or her before leaving Cameroon.

[Sophie2]

Ma Mary
I’ll like to thank you very much for teaching some of us history and giving us some insight on you struggle. I must agree with you on what you have said but I will also call your attention to many reason which if you choose to divide you can continue dividing till thy kingdom come.
First of all I will want you to know that because you speak English and I speak English does not mean that were not forced to unite. Before the imperialist, Cameroon did not exist and that area of land or that area of Africa was covered by different kingdoms e.g. the kingdom of mankon, the kingdom of Bali, the kingdom of bakweri and the Kingdom of Bangwa etc
I am sure u know the About the Bangwa resistence, the bakweri resistence etc. That is a clear indication that the bangwan man never accepted to form a union with the bali man or the mankon man and if you are dividing because you were forced to unite with the so called la republic then also remember that the English speaking Cameroon was formed by force. If you deny this, I’ll challenge you to show me a diplomatic agreement between the mankon people and the bali people that protects their union.
Talking about all these things to me is being retrogressive; we have to know history but not try to reverse history. The whole thing about politics, republics, states and all this things is new to Africans and the way forward is accepting our condition and encouraging more integration among the different tribes and cultures of Cameroon period. Trying to go back can take us far behind in many ways. What we need in Cameroon is Jesuses, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther Kings, not Marcus Gaveys, Malcom X etc. We need civil right organisations campaigning for the integration of bali people with the mankon people, betis and the bakweri etc, not all this nonsense of SCNC.
When southern Cameroon becomes an independent state how do you intend solve the problem of ‘Kam no go’ ‘Graffi’ or do u you think independence is a magic solution.

There is always a reason for division and if you fall in that vicious cycle u can divide to eternity. Even an atom once described as an indivisible part of matter can be divided today.
Secession is a cosmetic solution to our problems in Cameroon and Africa in general; I think we need critical thinking not flimsy excuses. All the SCNC argument is a flimsy excuse to disguise selfish ambitions.
First of all I disagree with the whole thing of regional representation; ministers should be chosen by their individual merit not by where they come from. So if guys were going to hold a conference and start an organisation because they think many people from their area are not made minister then the whole motive is bullshit.

[M Nje]

"Nobody in his right mind will think that Southern Cameroon will be a better place. What makes a prosperous country is a strong internal economy which in many cases is supported by big population (a big consumer base) which we don’t have. Our economy will need to depend on exporting raw materials which have proven to be more of a cause than a blessing to many African countries. Why will anybody think an Independent southern Cameroon will be different?"
Sophie2

Sophie2
Permit me disagree with you statements above.
Firstly, there is every indication that Southern Cameroons is one of the richest countries in West African in terms of resources per head. We have access to the sea which many countries wish to have. We have one of the reaches agricultural land all over Southern Cameroons. We have one of the highest amount of fish reserve in Bakassi, we have a significant amount of oil deposit in Bakassi, we have a huge timber forest in Manyu, we have good grass land in the North west that can be used to develop livestock farming, we have a very educated population abroad, we have many, many, many Southern Cameroonians abroad who wish to invest home and most importantly we are just about 6 million.

I think you are limiting your imagination that in Southern Cameroons we will be exporting only raw materials. That is not true. Presently I know many Southern Cameroonians who are will to invest billions of dollars in high end manufacturing goods at home in the form of join ventures. But they have told me they cannot take such a risk with the present dispensation.

Secondly, it will be an oversimplification of economic theory to assume that the population of an country will greatly determine its production capacity. That is also not true. There is nothing wrong with us producing as much goods and services as we can provided we can secure the market abroad. Example : look at the amount of bananas and tea that is produced from CDC and Delmote. What quantity is consumed in Cameroun. Almost negligible. But CDC along has an annual sell of about 13 billion F.C.F.A. There are nations like Israel that have similar population like ours (about 6 million) but are among the riches nation. So be optimistic. Remember also that we have Nigeria next door a source of good market that about 120 million people.

Above all, the reason Southern Cameroon will succeeded is because it has been done before. From about 1954 to 1961 Southern Cameroons was a Simi autonomous region, it had an independent government, with a house of representative in Buea. Endeley was the first head of government following by Forcha. They had everything a state could have at that time including airplanes. So do not be under any fear that we cannot run our government. We are richer that many countries in Africa especially those in the horn of Africa.

[Fon]

Rexon,
For your information, I don´t have any relationship with Fru Ndi. I am not like you who did everything to exonerate S.N Tita for no other reason than the fact that you come from the same area. After his utterances, you stooped so low to address him Pa just because he is your tribe´s man.

[Innovative group]

Achingly and shamefully too, How can Paul Biya tell its youth of an unemployment rate of 13%? I can see he just took this statistics from the doldrums. Oh oh…. we should not blame him, he should be judging from his statistics of the “Beti” youths that are unemployed.
Are there any statistics in Cameroon at all? If yes, then it is regrettable that our president can not even read figures. Does he even know the number of graduated in his country?
Paul Biya please just go ahead and continue reaping from where you never sawed, we know nature will take its course and you too will come to pass like Moboutou of Zaire and others. There is nothing you can tell Cameroon youth regarding commitment or enthusiasm or patriotism. You are the most unpatriotic citizen I have ever known.

You selfish old Man

[Innovative group]

Achingly and shamefully too, How can Paul Biya tell its youth of an unemployment rate of 13%? I see he just took this statistics from the doldrums. Oh oh…. we should not blame him, he should be judging from his statistics of the “Beti” youths that are unemployed.
Are there any statistics in Cameroon at all? If yes, then it is a regrettable that our president can not even read figures. Does he even know the number of graduates in his country?
Paul Biya please just go ahead and continue reaping from where you never sawed, we know nature will take its course and you too will come to pass like Moboutou of Zaire and others. There is nothing you can tell Cameroonians youth regarding commitment or enthusiasm or patriotism. You are the most unpatriotic citizen I have ever known.

You selfish old Man

[Fon]

Sophie2
"First of all I disagree with the whole thing of regional representation; ministers should be chosen by their individual merit not by where they come from. So if guys were going to hold a conference and start an organisation because they think many people from their area are not made minister then the whole motive is bullshit."

You must be kidding.So according to you, the fact that no Anglophone has ever been minister of Justice, Defence, Economy and Finance, Education, Pupblic service, Territoral administration and decentralisation etc means no Anglophone has ever qualified to hold any of these ministries? You have to rethink and really hard.

[M Nje]

Sophie2

Southern Cameroons is not going to be an ideal nation. It will have its set-backs. But on the average there is no doubt that life will be better for an ordinary Southern Cameroonian in Southern Cameroons than in La Republique Du Cameroun.

The ordinary Southern Cameroonian worships in the same church, shops in the same market, rents a room or an apartment , attends the same school with his brother or sister from any region, north or south, without using any derogating comments.

It is the politicians in La Republique who continue to remind us that we are different from each other so that they can continue to exploit our resource every minute as we stay divided.

Here is good news for: Citizenship in Southern Cameroons, like in any country, is voluntary. You can move next door to Nigeria or La Repbulique Du Cameroun or any other country you so desire and adopt their citizenship. You will not be forced to be a citizen of Southern Cameroons. That is your human right.

[Danny Boy]

Hi Netters,
having promised not to read any hotch-potch from our friend Flames, it is but human to say my curiosity got the better of me. I decided to review the comments section to see what he has got to say in reply to my posting.
Flames is a very clever gentleman. Flames is not his name of course, just like Danny Boy is but a nom de plume. Whilst reading one of his postings above, I came across the authoritative reference to the link- http://www.dibussi.com/2006/11/frances_dirty_w_3.html. I duly clicked on it but nothing happened. When I looked closely, I recognised the name Dibussi. This reminded me of the blog-Scribbles from the Den! So I went into it and lo and behold, the articles he wants us to read.
So there you have it, Who is "flames"? I know who this person is, and if my recollections are correct from what I have read on his political affiliations, I think think this guy is dangerous.
I could be wrong!
It is a wonderful world.

[flames]

Hahahaha...excuse me dear members for laughing out my lungs so hard. Danny Boy makes me really laugh. I have some questions for him: Imagine Dear Mr Danny Boy after your dreams have come true and there is an SCNC government. Say becausse of your hardwork, you are elected to rule, will you summarily dismiss to listen to the voice of the people becuase you suspect him to be of the opposition to you? I guess you know the answer because you promised not to read my post (although you broke your promise) Hope later on you should be able to honour your promises to the people.

Furthermore, does witchhunting really help the situation? Are you Dear Danny Boy so interested in my identity than in what I have to say? You claim I am dangerous and I will like you to point out the danger I do represent in my articles.

For your personal interest I would also like to state here I have no relationships nor human knowledge of any Dibussi. The weblink was for reference purposes only. If you think he is dangerous, address him on his website and avoid making wild goose accusations, which distort the very aim of discussions on this forum.

I am sorry if the link was wrong but here is the link (note the "_w... continues on the same line):

http://www.dibussi.com/2006/11/frances_dirty_w_3.html

My intentions were mainly to share my opinions and no attached strings please!!!

Consequently, most of what I scribbled (please pardon my mistakes) were after many periods of discussions. Back in Cameroon I discussed with many persons and I even joked if Cameroon was being described, a large voluminous book will be inadequate because really, we are Africa in miniature.

Nevertheless, in view of the grave crisis in our country, standing by and doing nothing is worse and that is why I write. Maybe that is the only weapon I possess without having to mortgage my country's future or sell the wealth of the future generation.

I have tried to refrain from personal attacks on this site because that reflects lack of objectivity, although I do admit I have to defend myself(as a basic, natural response) when attcked. I have addressed Ma Mary and Mr. Watesih, but only in the essence or replying to some oftheir statements , which i found very welcoming because the purpose of this web forum was to contribute ideas and not praise-sing for others. I therefore gladly applaud all the reviews, the criticisms and comments generated on this forum. It shows we are concerned on a variety of topics.

Have you noticed I have not yet written on the major story of Biya's message to the youths? Why? It is the same old looney tunes that Cameroonians do not longer listen to.

Instead of concentrating on analysing the 'usual' speech I thought it would be better to treat other better isssues and that is why my postings have been more on what is going on in Cameroon and our expectations of dealing with our problems.

I thank everybody (sophie2, Andre Fokam, Ma Mary, Watesih, Danny Boy, Felix, Ricardo and all of you (forgive me if you are not listed here. It does not mean you are not important, rather your contributions are more valuable than a list of names-or pseudonyms) and much gratitude to the Post News Online Team for giving us the home ground where many Cameroonians can give their opinions. "The voice of the people is the voice of God"

More postings to come... :)

[Ma Mary]

For a complete beautiful, printable copy of the YANG GANG article, please click HERE.

Most of this ground has been covered already. Please catch up.

The following site contains a lot of information on Southern Cameroons THINKING and historical facts.

[GilbertChina]

Fellow Brethren(Youths). This speech wasn't meant for us. Vitualise it as a poet and you will spot out something special. The President was addressing his ministers and party members “new form of patriotism”. He knows fully well that his party members and ministers ain't patriotic enough. As in my write up above, we shoudn't fold our arms to wait for a govenment that has no head way. Let's create the enabling enviroment by investing back home. Let's immitate the Chinese who mostly buy from their brothers be it at home or abroad. Making sure that we are brain gaining and not brain draining. can someone tell me when Namibia gained its independence? Has someone visited or viewed Namibia on any TV channel of recent? Cameroonians have a long way to go but we must start with a step, then we will finish the miles ahead of us. Let's use this forum to share ideas on how to change our country for the better rather than analysing speeches that won't help us. What if you spotlighted your Village, town, city and made a gesture to a primary school with a computer or two? What if you dug up a well in a village that needs water? What if you decided to plant trees and flowers to make your city beautiful? What if you offered a book to a library in your village town or city ? I'm not preaching tribalism but start it on your backyard and before you open your eyes everyboy will be copying from you. That's just what the Chinese are doing. They want to look like Americans and even go beyond that. That's why if you don't have the American accented English, you can't teach in China be you a PHD holder in English.

TO HE OR SHE WHO LOVES CAMEROON.
Hail, Cameroon! happy land! Hail, ye heroes! heaven-born band! Who
fought and bled in Freedom's cause, Who fought and bled in Freedom's
cause, And when the storm of war was gone, Enjoyed the peace your valor won.
Let independence be our boast, Ever mindful what it cost; Ever grateful
for the prize, Let its altar reach the skies! Hail, Cameroon.

O limed soul, that, struggling to be free,
Art more engag'd! Help, angels! Make assay!
Bow, stubborn knees; and, heart with strings of steel,
Be soft as sinews of the new-born babe!

Oh, when a mother meets on high The babe she lost in infancy, Hath she
not then for pains and fears, The day of woe, the watchful night, For
all her sorrow, all her tears, An over-payment of delight?

Cameroon is blessed but full of those who
can't manage things. Look at China's economy. When one is on a bus in
China, nobody is running behind you to see how much you gotta pay but just
honesty ................... Why can't we Cameroonian do same?

I'm crying for my beloveth country. I think you shall join to reflect
on this. Why are we suffering in others country? Why do we leave our
country to live as beggars in a foreign land? I have a
dream and hope you do. That our generation will change Cameroon. When the wind for change will start blowing, no man except God will stop it. I have a dream for my country and hope you do same.

Oh, when a mother meets on high
The babe she lost in infancy,
Hath she not then for pains and fears,
The day of woe, the watchful night,
For all her sorrow, all her tears,
An over-payment of delight?
The Curse of our mismanagement.

When cameroonians will know........."He that is down needs fear nor
fall........."They will make a step for freedom.

God bless your day.

[Ma Mary]

Good, we need to do these things, except that it has proven impossible to do with the Camerounese in 50 years, and it is not getting better. The civic culture is getting in the way. The ancient Chinese culture is a uniting factor for Chinese.

The process we are working on will take more than a lifetime. Did you know that for the entire 19th century, China was weak and the Western powers were walking all over it. For much of the 20th century, it was the same, and this time the Japanese did sad works. After decades fo struggle and hard times, then China became the prosperous country you are talking about?

We can only succeed here by separating.

[Ndiks]

Mr Gilbertchina,

Namibia became independent in March 1990 with Sam Nujoma as first president.Access the following link and get more timeline on Namibia.The capital some claimed it is among the first three cleanest in the world.follow the link..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/country_profiles/1063245.stm

[wordweaver]

Some of you people write novels here in the name of entries.How do you expect people to read all of that chunk? Just scrolling downt the page, my eyes become so dizzy due to the length of the information soem of you always type.Please be concise and go straight to the point.

[Fon]

It is also worth noting that Namibia had the highest per capita Gross National Income (GNI) in the Africa after Libya, Mauritius, Botswana, Gabon and South Africa in 2005, according to World Bank Development Indicators 2006. Its GNI is more than double that of Cameroon.

[samchinaboy]

Dear brethren, while hoping and encouraging ourselves for a change, let's pray that God almighty should give us a Solomon in our time. Let's also pray and ask God to show us the right way and not give us a Pharoah and tyranic ruler that we're having now. Let our youths develop the sence of real patriotism and not pocket patriotism which seems to be what many in our leadership believe to be patriotic. Let's also not forget to thank God for the abundant blessings he's already bestored on our motherland Cameroon. May God bless those who love and think good of our country. Be blessed.

[Watesih]

Ma Mary,
I read somebody celebrating the docility of Cameroonians ,and attributing it to PEACE.But he quickly contradicted himself by saying we should focus our attention on our real problem,nepotism,corruption, dictatorship laziness.I don`t know how somebody can live allthese ills and pretend to be in peace.May be war to him only has to do with people actually carrying guns.He says when he last left you in 2004 ,you were trumpeting your message to free yourself,and he is surprised that you are still doing it,though he thinks you have not succeeded.But one would have thought he was coming back three years after to announce his own success,rather he is still being eaten up by nepotism,corruption, dictatorship,laziness,and strangely pretends
to be at peace with himself.He even proudly uses some of their catch phrases," Les jaloux vont maigrir" .Who is therefore the jaloux here,he who is decrying all the ills in the world,or somebody who also decries the same ills and wants to be left alone?
We are really taken aback to see somebody ask people to prove him wrong that the BBC.Com,and the CNN have not reported any chaos in 'his dear land'.It would rather have been better for him to ask people to prove him wrong whether Ondo Ndong did not accept greasing the palms of these same BBC
and CNN to paint a rosy picture of his dear country.Since his news sources ,the BBC and the CNN did not report chaos in Cameroon,
where therefore did he learn that there`s nepotism,corruption,dictatorship,laziness in the country?.
We are now getting tired with guys from the same part of the country coming here to show off their 'love ' for their 'dear land'
.The Betis who have push Cameroon into an abyss,know the magnitude of our suffering,
and the degree of their involvement,so they hardly ever openly dispute the fact that they have crafted our doom.But some of these hybrids from the West Province need to start hearing the truth from us.If they keep stealing from the government ,and keep out of our affairs,we will not pick on them,but
if they want to take our policy of let sleeping dogs lie for granted,then we will come out strongly against them.The Betis who
who have pushed us to the periphery of the earth hardly come out here to call us names,
but these Fokams,Riccardos prone to using
foul language here on us.It is from them that we hear Anglofools everytime.We must start making it clear that they are even the first group that will resist change in Cameroon,because as the group that is controlling all the major businesses,and whose major business men have always exempted themselves from taxes,they see no need to jostle the status quo.They will always come here and tell people that though things are slow for their liking they see no need for change,because there`s peace.How can somebody from the West of the country be telling an English speaking Cameroonian that
they are losing weight because a mortar has not been fired from Yaounde.Which Yaounde is he celebrating? The Yaounde where Emah Basile treated all of us (including Bamilekes) as enemies in the house? The Yaounde where all of us have lived there,and where Bamilekes are treated as toilet tissue?
English speaking Cameroonians have never wanted to meddle in the problems of identity that the Bamilekes suffer in Cameroon.They have not even got enough for themselves,but keep teasing us on our own issues of identity.They seem to be fooling themselves that their financial edge give them the leeway to stray into our problems.That is being overtly ambitious with the wrong people.
In March 1960, the French Colonel Lamberton wrote:" Le Cameroun s`engage sur les chemins de l`independance avec ,dans sa chaussure ,un caillou,c`est la presence d`une minorite: Les Bamilekes" . In September 2005, General Asso`o Emane declared: " Les Bamilekes ont tout et volent tout.Pourquoi voulez-vous forcer la main au President de la Republique? S`il faut arretez Ondo Ndong,il faut aussi arreter Niat Njifenji,Yves Michel Fotso.Ils ont voles plus que Ondo Ndong". We all know they did everything to pick up Siyam Siwe,and that Yves michel Fotso has sneaked away to do business in Singapore,rather than to live
under the possibility of being arrested.With this type of scorn from the other side ,who are these Fokams,Riccardos who would come questioning Southern Cameroonians about their identity? Can people who are detested kites some where suddenly start dishing out lessons to others.Southern Cameroonians may wrangle on the approach to take to achieve what they want,but this must not been seen as a weaknesses,and exploited for whatever reason.Anyway, "If you want to tread on the wind,you should have wings".

[rexon]

Watesih,

These are the kind of direct commentaries i expect to read from you. At this very hard times, we need not fear anyone and we need to expose the truth as it is.

[M Nje]

Watesih,
That is a good commentary. Here is what most people don`t understand: the absence of physical warfare does not in any way imply the present of peace. That is for the most part a distortion of reality.

When university students are shot successively twice in Buea just for taking part in a peaceful strike action, when warders are tried in court for organizing a strike, when workers in Ndu tea given inhumane treatment, when students are expel from all state universities for organizing a strike, when you good to sleep wondering if that was your last day of work, when there is high probability that you can be killed along the street, etc etc etc do you call that peace. When all your freedoms are controlled by the government, even freedom to petition your own government to address your needs, are you in peace. In that place called Cameroun, people for the most part, are under a constant state of military terror. Terror from the very people they pay taxes to.

For any society to have any positive peace, it must have true JUSTICE and EQUALITY. Justice for all and not that which is in the interest of the rich and powerful.

[Spako]

'I have said here many times that there is no single reason that one can advance to compare the longivity of an opposition leader at the helm of a party with that of a president in power. You can´t expect me to critize an opposition leader who has not yet had the chance to rule. The focus of the SDF should be solely to accede to power and not who should head the SDF. When the SDF is in power, that is when we will be able to access them and make critisms.'

Fon,

Your words above are seriously misleading and shows weakness in your political thinking. You can rightfully criticise an Opposition Leader, who lacks focus, shows poor leadership, is corrupt and fails to lead the party according to the dictates of events in the country or fails to produce better strategies to ameliorate the political situation of his or her country.
They too can resign or be voted out to give way for new ideas and inject fresh blood into the party. If that had so far failed to happen in Cameroon, it doesnot mean it is correct and acceptable. Sometimes, opposition leaders are the main stumbling block to the success of the party they lead.
May be in Cameroon, no one can successfully criticize Fru Ndi of the SDF bcos he is seen as an iffalible cult here.
Take not that political parties, be it in government or opposition, constantly review their stategies as the political situation changes. That is the one crucial thing lacking in Fru Ndi's SDF. Donot ask me to lecture the SDF in such a field. The party has got enough capable individuals to do so. But that is not the intention of the Fru Ndi's SDF and the atmosphere of fear, suspicion, intimidation and not being labelled a CPDM agent. Donot forget that in the SDF, there are former CNU, CPDM, KNDP, OK,KNUC, UPC, etc members. They may still have some of the blood in them. Maybe if Fru Ndi had defeated Achidi Achu in the CPDM Santa Elections that he lost, he could have proceeded to be PM. That is the more reason why we should not led them rest. We need to continuously xray all of them and remind them of the need to put the Country first. A thing both Biya in government and Fru Ndi as chief oppositin has failed to do.

If your girlfriend is an 'Ashawo' b4 you get married, donot think she will change to become an angel. Sorry Mr Fon. This time you got it wrong. Good luck!

Spako

[kehbohng]

Massa Paul Biere,President of the Republic of audiences, we are tied of your empty speeches. Your speeches are not more tikling our ears but its now blistering them. I think if speeches were wishes then Cameroonians would have been talking of their problems in than past tense. Your speeches all compiled together will bit the size of a standard bible in standard characters. What freightening about calling this day a plebiscite day? What are hiding? and from Who? You are a disgrace to fellow cameroonian for betraying your ignorant of the Cameroon history, the history of a country you claim to be the Headache of state. Let me bring to your knowledge no genuing history of Cameroon can be gotten from any standard history book of the French you are out to serve.

[kehbohng]

Massa Paul Biere,President of the Republic of audiences, we are tied of empty speeches. Your speeches are not more tikling our ears but they are now blistering them. I think if speeches were wishes then Cameroonians would have been talking of their problems in than past tense. What is freightening about calling this day a plebiscite day? What are hiding? and from Who? You are a disgrace to fellow cameroonian for betraying your ignorant of the Cameroon history, the history of a country you claim to be the Headache of state. Let me bring to your knowledge no genuing history of Cameroon can be gotten from any standard history book of the French you are out to serve.

[kehbohng]

Massa Paul Biere,President of the Republic of audiences, we are tied of empty speeches. Your speeches are not more tikling our ears but they are now blistering them. I think if speeches were wishes then Cameroonians would have been talking of their problems in than past tense. What is freightening about calling this day a plebiscite day? What are hiding? and from Who? You are a disgrace to fellow cameroonian for betraying your ignorant of the Cameroon history, the history of a country you claim to be the Headache of state. Let me bring to your knowledge no genuing history of Cameroon can be gotten from any standard history book of the French you are out to serve.

[Fon]

Spako,
"You can rightfully criticise an Opposition Leader, who lacks focus, shows poor leadership, is corrupt and fails to lead the party according to the dictates of events in the country or fails to produce better strategies to ameliorate the political situation of his or her country."(Spako)
The above quotation is O.K, however, Fru Ndi does not fall in that category.

I think you misunderstood the message I wanted to pass across. My point is that an opposition party should devote more of her time on strategies to take over power than on internal wrangling about who to lead the party . It should not just be a question of Fru Ndi stepping down, but why he should step down. Most important is the person to replace him. If that person is Ben Muna, then that will be the end of the party.

[Feli]

"...May be in Cameroon, no one can successfully criticize Fru Ndi of the SDF bcos he is seen as an iffalible cult here...."
This statement made by Spako reveals how ignorant some of our internet politicians are. I have witnessed NEC members lavish heavy criticism on Ni John Fru Ndi, I have seen his side loose in debates and after voting during NEC sessions. I have seen his opinion overriden by that of the convention.

In the SDF I know, there is no cult figure. There is no mysticism, fanatism or fundamentalism. The party has its organs and debates follow an agenda adopted by the various organs.No one forces his opinions on to others. I invite you to contact the SG to seek permission so that you can see how NEC meetings are carried out. That is when you shall learn how DISCIPLINE and constructive criticism can be combined. This makes the SDF light years ahead of all other political parties in Cameroon.Period.

[Ma Mary]

Watesih:
Thanks for that observation. In 2005, I warned Anglo Bamis to be very wary of taking the side of their francophone cousins against us, because when it comes down to the crunch, they would rather live in Tiko or Mankon where they feel at home than in Bafoussam where they are regarded as strangers and curiousities that can speak bad Bafoussam dialect. Some of them are still confused about this, and they will have problems in the future when Southern Cameroons is inevitably independent, if they do not straighten out their thinking.

Then there are those like Riccardo and Forkam who come here to patronize us. Who are these twits anyway? We cannot be fooled any longer. That time has passed. Lately, there has been a burst of acrimony on the internet over statements by a certain Dr Emmanuel Konde, a Victoria Bassa historian who has been making reckless statements that the Bassas who ran away from oppression and settled in Victoria preceded the Bakweris the Bakweris who are native to Fako. The implication is that Victoria belongs to the Bassas. These are the kinds of trouble that the greedy frogs are bringing.

Somebody says I was engaged in this fight for 4 years and I am still doing the same thing. This Bamilike person then does not understand the nature of liberation struggles. They can take 5 years or a life time. You might even die and two generations pass. Gandhi that somebody bandied around here spent more than 40 years fighting, so did Mandela. I have been engaged in this for 21 years, the lifetime of some of you young people reading this. I am committed to this even if I am the last person standing. That is the nature of committment. Why did you Bamis fold into French colonialism. You should still be struggling today. Instead you remain french colonial subjects. Give me a break, ignorant boys. Go suck bobby and comfort yourselves, you unprincipled sons of female canines.

[Ndiks]

Chary Fokam was spooking looking for good friends whom they can depend on in propagandizing for one Cameroun pas unies.You will keep being chary until you yield to the truth and relinguish yourselves to de-colonization.The thing is simple,you know the truth and don't want to accept it.We are not responsible for colonial created borders,and did not force you camerounians to accept independence from France on 1st January 1960 as La République Du Cameroun.So too will not accept to be the bad losers of colonial modern structures of emmerging states from the 1960's.Why did you accept indepence as LRC from France without checking at other Africans?

[DaDiceman]

Paul says "I am pleased to address you this evening"; I wish I could say we are pleased to hear from you, Paul, but unfortunately I cannot. As a matter of fact, we in Southern Cameroon couldn't care less about whatever future you plan for the youths of your country, La Republique du Cameroun. The only thing we are interested in hearing from you is: when are you and France going to let go the people of Southern Cameroon you are holding hostage?

[andre fokam]

the mentality of loosers:
-they associate fokam's and riccardo comments to the BAMILEKE's, but not that of Yang Yang to the ANGLOPHONES.
-they see their brothers as bamilekes, Bassas, Bakweris, Santa, Betis (but not as CAMEROONIANS)and their enemies as French, British, American, Chineses etc..,
-they dream of a land of millions of people where no single one will be called Anglofools, or N'kwah, of frogs, or ngrafi or cam no go etc..( i call this utopia). focus on the good positive citizens please. even in the so called model countries, there are prisons because statistics have shown that out of every 100 peoples anywhere in the world, 40 are likely to steal, 70 are likely to lie....5 are likely to be xenophobic...etc..
-they find it abnormal that the Bamilekes have achieved their emancipation through hard work and finacial empowerment..
(i call it laziness or jealousy)
-they want somebody to "give" them their emancipation...hahahaha
-they want war...that they will watch on CNN????
-they want to cut and run because things are rough or though... but run to where? to the new found paradise? where will they run to then, when things will get rough there, to mankon or bakingily republic?
-they want to consider themselves of Cedar (British) ... but cedar does not know them as his... ( i call this being a bastard).

God thank you for making these kind of people an infinite minority for our amusement.

Andre fokam (Frog, Ngrafis, Bami, Bush faller...name it, but most importantly, CAMEROONIAN)

[WiseP]

Biya, 4th on the list of corrupt Presidents, Big Punisher and the Sufferer. Good 24 years gone for nothing. What do you really think you are flattering about? We are tired of your old tricks. We wait of your doom day. Bastard Pikin

[Watesih]

Thanks andre fokam,
We have been writing here for so many years ,and have always turned a blind eye to the way you guys look at others.The time was right to ruffle your feathers,and see what was hiding there.In the course of doing this ,we are now very clear with the image you have of another minority group.You are infinitely grateful to God ,"for making these kind of people an infinite minority for your amusement". Before now nobody would have known that others were being perceived as playthings in your hands.No wonder you decry all types of ills in the country, but you force your playthings to accept that there`s peace.In Cameroon,all other people do not work hard,only the Betis,and Bamilekes work hard,and this hard work has paid off with each of the group having a rat in Kondengui to prove their industriousness.These are people who take others for playthings but keep cosying up to them.They would like to hide behind the SDF to accede to power.When this is not coming,they start resigning.They live and comeback.They live in France for five years without mentioning the word SDF,but when they learn elections are coming they come home as candidates.They have divided themselves among the various news organs,fooling themselves that they can destroy the SDF through foul language. Emancipation is never given,it is achieved.That`s why people have been writing, crying out,and looking for strategies,but you are the one who starts questioning their right to express their worries for so long.
Fokam,until the Bamilekes cease to have
swindlers like Siyam Siwe,until some of these rats like Michel Fotso stop running away from arrest,then are we going to accept that others can`t work as hard as them.We English speaking Cameroonians are good at telling you the truth when you crave for it,and when you try to spit on us.
We are not associating comments by the fokams and riccardos to Bamilekes for ostentatious reasons.We are trying to show a pattern of behaviour,that you guys from the WEST are even more of detractors to us.You will come here and sing Anglofools for weeks at the verge of elections.When elections are over ,you retire to enjoy the fruits of your onslaught.It is not strange that since 2004 when we had elections you kept a low profile,only to resurface now that other elections are in the horizon .This shows we are really playthings in your hands as you say.
You make a fool of yourself by saying we dream of a land of millions of people where no single one will be called Anglofools, N`kwah,frogs,Graffi,Cam no go,as if you loved this stereotyping very much,only to contradict yourself by saying they see their brothers as Bamilekes,Bassa,Bakweris,Santas.
So if you hated seeing others as such,why would you be so grateful to God for creating a minority that will serve for your entertainment? Get this clear ,if you want to go beyond the threshold of intolerance, and especially spit on us ,in anyway,or anyform ,we will always remind you that you are groping in darkness.Let me repeat it again,that let the presumptiousness that comes from having a financial edge over others not fool you to stray into anything that has to do with our identity.You guys should rather continue to encourage your thieving brothers to continue to compete for ostentation at Kondengui.

[Ma Mary]

I stepped on a nerve? Damn! Fair warning, because I am going to step again with my heavy feet.

WAR
Forkam, why do you keep trying to put words into our mouths about war. We have agitated over 20 years for our freedom, and your neocolonial government has pretended to be deaf day in day out. It must be you malevolent, poisonous frogs who want war and threaten war by denying our freedom. Forkam, you people cannot wait to stick your forks into Southern Cameroons land and eat it after devastating us with war. You really want war, don't you, MOFO. Is that why you are called Forkam? Even with a bag full of stolen gold, can I as a Southern Cameroonian get even a handkerchief size piece of land in your native land?

War? There is already a war on. Did you think all war is fought with bullets. Open your eyes, chump.

THANK YOU
You are beautiful when you lose your temper. As the African saying goes, a strong wind exposes the hindquarters of the hen. You have helped to educate those Southern Cameroonians who are still blind and idealistic about your country about your true objectives and feelings. They just need to read your words. You come in here to patronize Southern Cameroonians? Go jump in that frozen lake in Madison you tricky little toad.

If you think we are going to shrink from telling it as it is, think again.

[Fritzane Kiki HK]

Biya Bi Mvondo,
We are sick and tired of being sick and tired of this new deal stuff.Year in year out thesame noisemaking.Better you ask the youths to start looking for jobs and feign for life themselves rather than letting them know you will one day give them glory.To me their upcoming elections should be left for them alone since the place of the youth is not guaranteed in all walks of life.Imagine the election fever that used to affect the general public but now while here in Cameroon,Cameroonians care less about politics especially youths.Youths dont even know those representing them in parliament not to talk of the councilors in local councils.

Fritzane Kiki
Cameroon

[Tombele]

What happened during the Ahidjo regime? There was no HIPC we had a surplus. The World Bank has never developped any country, instead Africans and all african heads of state should mobilze to have an African marshall plan put in place for the ravages of colonialism and slavery.