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Ottou

Mr. Biya and his hinge men know the the outcome of the last population census. Let him curve out this units so the CPDM can rig.
We (militants of the SDF) will not tolerate any rigging at the lowest level. So any D.O or who so ever, who attempts to rig will meet Mr. Biya in heaven.
Thanks

mk the southerner

I dont know why i should be waisting my time crying again. I have long said sdf should live Biya and his country alone.

Yes Ottou what you have just said, "the sdf will not tolerate rigging at the lowest level" is the same sing song we have been hearing for the past noon productive years.

When they sing like this the parliamenterians go to Yaounde and collect their budget. Fon Doh is in the parliament and the parliamentarians are fine so far as their budget is passing.Infact let it just be said that the have reduced the budget of these parliamentarians,see how sdf parliamentarians will lead some fullish Southern Cameroonians to a sit down strike. They will work out of the assembly and will be prepared not to get inn until that issue is readdressed. But this same force can not be applied with all these rigging.There is just no way Biya is planning to live that chair it is clear, you and me know that but should we be fools all our lives?.

Please live Paul alone and fight for your own country Southern Cameroons is not small for SDF to rule except the SDF is afraid too of democracy.
Mk the Southerner

rexon

A majority of Southern Cameroonians have made it clear that they dont want any ballot boxes from La Republique. A few tribesmen, relatives, close friends, etc. of politicians of the Southern Cameroons would be the ones who will go and vote. So all this talk about rigging is just to brainwash us. We all know that unscrupulous organisations, political institutions, etc. from the Southern Cameroons have been bribed to do all to colour La Republique as a multi-party democracry, thereby legitimising the colonisation of the Southern Cameroons. They will complain to brainwash us, then go for elections, and even if they are given two seats in parliament or a few councils and the rest taken by Biya, they will prefer clapping hands in camerounese parliament rather than staying out.

rexon

I thank you all for the interest shown in the "news"
that a new party in which I am involved is coming up.
I am most flattered. However:

1) I joined the SDF in 1990 having been one of
non-North Westerners that were supposed to be among
the “founding fathers”. This is because I was one of
those who, long before 1990 with Siga Asaga (RIP),
Carlson Anyangwe, Clement Ngwasiri, Albert Mukong
(RIP), John Fru Ndi and others were meeting regularly
to examine the possibility of forming an alternative
political party to the one-party that existed in
Cameroon. The testimony that I wrote following the
death of Albert Womah Mukong bears me out on this. For
reasons too complicated to describe here, I was never
to be one of the Founding Fathers of the SDF.
2) Following the formation of the SDF, I served it
intellectually right from 1990 a the President of the
then powerful "Yaounde Think Tank". Following some
misunderstandings with Siga Asanga who was the first
SG of the SDF, I became the SG of the SDF from March
1994. I served in that capacity until September 2005
when I decided to no longer serve the party in that
capacity. The reaction of my “colleagues” of NEC was
to “dismiss” me from the party in October 2005. This
constituted a very serious disappointment for me,
especially as it took me 16 years to understand that
what my colleagues wanted was not what I wanted.
3) The main differences between me and others of the
leadership of the SDF centred on our understanding of
the nature of Man, and of the concept called
democracy. My standpoint was that a deep understanding
of human nature and of the nature of politics would
not permit that we treat issues the way we were
treating them; and that only such deep understanding
would allow the construction of the democratic
environment that we were seeking to put in place in
the Party, and later in Cameroon with the advent of
taking over power. My colleagues did not seem to
understand “democracy” in same the way that I did, and
their minds seemed to be closed on the complication of
the nature of Man.
4) Since I left the Secretariat of the SDF, I have
tried in various articles published in various media
and internet Fora to bring out some of the values that
divided me from my colleagues.
5) In my capacity as the Permanent Secretary of the
Coalition, I was also privileged to be the main
animator of what came to be known as the National
Coalition for Reconciliation and Reconstruction (NCRR)
that united the main actors of the opposition in
Cameroon in the build-up to the 2004 Presidential
election. This allowed me to have a close view of all
the main actors in opposition politics in Cameroon.
The failure of the NCRR was another serious
disappointment for me. I have kept in my mind the role
each actor played to cause the failure of the
Coalition. Some of the main actor are the "big" names
being mentioned for the "new" party!
6) Following my departure from the Secretariat of the
SDF, the party broke up into two factions. I issued a
call to both factions to ensure that they did not
become a tool in the hands of the regime to manipulate
the opposition in Cameroon. I called for a
“renaissance” in the SDF to ensure the emergence of a
strong centre for the animation of opposition politics
in Cameroon. This call was not heard. As I have come
to understand it, the agenda of the leadership of the
two factions differed only in the perception of the
observer, not in reality! Since I realised this, I
distanced myself from the faction that enjoyed my
sympathy. So I have not been an active participant in
the politics of even the faction that enjoyed that
sympathy.
7) I have met with many opposition leaders to discuss
the possibility of forming a strong opposition party.
These disussions only left me with the same negative
impresions I left he Coalition with.
7) My write-ups on elections in Cameroon/ELECAM/NEO
and the behaviour of the opposition indicate clearly
that I am not a partisan of participation in elections
to boost the credibility of a regime that is an
obstacle to the advent of democracy, development and
prosperity in our country. The regime has put in place
a formidable mechanism to win the elections through
fraud. I have always felt that we have learned enough
lessons from abroad to be able to use elections as a
springboard for revolutionary change in our country.
The "leaders" I discussed with did not show enough
willingness to pursue such avenues. Therefore I have
not been part of the political “leaders” that have
been meeting to create an environment for their
participation in the upcoming elections.
8) The appearance of my name among those who are
meeting to put up a “united” opposition party is
probably an effort by those who have been trying to
rope me in, in spite of my open refusal and critiques,
to use my name to render their effort more credible.
It is nothing short of the window dressing we have
indulged in for the past 17 years!!
9) I would like to state clearly that I am not part of
the “effort” to create a united opposition party to
participate in the upcoming elections in Cameroon and
legitimise the rule of the Biya-regime that I have
been very critical of. Therefore I am not part of the
"meeting" that is announcd in Yaounde on 24 March
2007.
10) I share in the dream of the many Lebialem people
who look forward to change in our country. I also
share the dream of many Lebialem people who look
forward to the day when Lebialem people can best
benefit from the political system in Cameroon. I will
continue with those with whom I have been discussing
our fate, to seek the best avenue for such a
possibility. I sincerely thank those who understand
and share in the politics I defend.

With best wishes.

T. Asonganyi


rexon

VIOLENCE, MURDER AND THE DEMISE OF DEMOCRATIC POLITICS

Most politicians seek power, which can be obtained by intimidation, threat, violence and murder or through acts of kindness and love. Power based on love is far more effective and permanent than that derived from fear of punishment or harm. Power maintained through murder is a million times less effective!! To paraphrase Mahatma Ghandi, every murder, no matter for what cause, is a crime against humanity. Democracy is impossible if free speech is absent, since democracy is the reign of opinion! Democracy and violence are not good bed fellows. A worthy cause, however noble, that is served by violence, renders the cause unworthy... Politicians that develop anger for their critics invariably never understand the nature of democracy, and can never serve it!

The present opposition political parties admit their goal of wanting to replace an evil regime; each repeats the goal incessantly and convinces themselves that they are capable of achieving the goal... alone, even when they know that they have not, cannot and will not! They regularly carry out purges, and make noises about their claims to the mantle of "the true opposition". Their "militants" are there as proof of this claim. The "true" militant is the microcosm of the future member of the new society they seek to establish: “spectator”, "obedient", "disciplined", "blind"... The militant is a representative of the future, who rejects the practices of a past/present regime but turns a blind eye to the same practices within the party. The future he/she dreams of, and the past he/she rejects, together render him/her blind to the practices in the party. They enter the vicious logic that if they condemn the same practices in their party that they condemn in the regime, they play into the hands of the rejected past; they compromise the advent of the dreamt future!

Therefore, they greet any attempted condemnation of those practices in the party with shouts of Indiscipline! Betrayal! 8.2! Dismissal! … and with Violence and Murder!! They swear by the differences between their party and the regime they reject, yet they cannot identify the novelty of the new in the party, since they are like two side of the same coin! Their leaders, most of whom were upstarts of the early nineties, had never led any movement for democracy before they got to the helm of the party! Some even signed the birth of their parties only by default!! Therefore they failed to know that in history, the change they sought had never been handed down willingly by any ruling class; regimes have always only ever given in grudgingly, little by little, to popular demand.

The opposition political parties emerged from a society that did not understand the nature of democracy; from a society that bore injustices the parties sought to destroy. However, they failed to understand the corruption of politics that gave birth to the injustices they sought to change. Therefore, the political parties themselves, sooner or later, also misunderstood the nature of the democracy they sought, and reduced themselves to practicing the evils of the regime they sought to change, like intolerance of divergent views, exclusion, violence, murder... The central problem of the regime and these political parties that sought to change it became this misunderstanding of the nature of democracy, at the centre of which is the individual citizen. The central problem became the failure to realise that the individual citizens are divided, diverse and condemned to remain so; that they will constantly express opinions that are inconstant, disorderly and above all, confused, only the synthesis of which would give birth to the new society they sought!

The individual citizen belongs to the whole and yet remains a specific character that permanently seeks to express itself; the whole created by individual citizens is a pluralistic whole, which gives birth to the pluralism and diversity that are the hallmarks of democratic society! The challenge of building democracy by integrating this inherent nature of the citizens in all operational structures passed the parties by! This was to their peril!! They were reduced to cosy structures outside the political mainstream: permanently acting as window dressing for a democratic society that does not exist! Some passed their time in a useless effort to maintain a unified, “disciplined” whole through periodic purges, violence and murder, not knowing that this was steadily moving them to their destiny – their doom!

Whether it is James Madison or other politicians of antiquity, it has always been recognised that when left on his own, man could get as bad as a jungle animal. In power, they are fickle, self-interested victims of their passions and easy preys for demagogy; they are susceptible to intolerance and greed! To check this animal instinct of man, institutions, rules and regulations - laws - exist for the free exercise of citizenship and leadership. However, whatever checks are put in place, this animal instinct of man always shows its ugly face from time to time! Society ensures that this is constantly checked and beaten to submission by a judicial system, whose central role is to check such human behaviour.

Thus, whether it is the murder of Stompie Seipei by the Mandela United Football Team in South Africa, or the murder of John Kohtem by the Palace Guards of Balikumbat, or the murder of Grégoire Diboule by the Vanguards of the SDF, justice takes its course. In these specific cases, the murders were by proxy: loyal forces to powerful individuals carried out the heinous acts on their behalf! Invariably, the high profile murders followed several other thoughtless acts by the "strongmen". Stompie was not the only murder or brutal act committed by The Mandela United Football Team; Kohtem was not the only murder committed or ordered by the Fon; Diboule was not the first act of violence of the SDF Vanguards! In the case of the SDF, Diboule came after the famous brutalising of Kumbo MPs, the brutal dispersion of a press conference of Tchop Samuel, the brutal dispersion of a factional convention of Vice-Chairman Souleyman, the brutal disruption of the press conference of the out-going Secretary General and the tear-gassing of Hon. Ngwasiri! The successful implementation of each of these was celebrated as "victory", even if, unknown to perpetrators, the successes were preparing them for their nemesis!! In the end, there is nothing like collective guilt; only individuals are morally accountable for their action. So far, these powerful individuals have paid dearly for their delusion in their own grandeur!

In politics, violence and murder can be state-sponsored, party-sponsored or individual-sponsored. In all cases, individuals are at the centre of the heinous act. Violence and murder never serve the interest of democracy; only individuals benefit from it. For democracy to have its way, such individuals should always be sorted out and punished severely to allow for the reign of opinion that produces the pluralism and diversity that nourish democracy and democratic societies. The law of the jungle should never be allowed to take over from the rule of law!

Professor T. Asonganyi
Yaounde.

rexon

SMALL TALK OF BIG MEN (or red carpet lullabies) (1)

Red Carpet is a popular radio programme in CRTV Bamenda. Most of what is discussed here concerns the recent declarations of a “big man” in the programme. One of them goes like this: “Well, before the SDF was launched, l had never militated in any political party; call it the CNU or CPDM. I had no interest in politics at all….”
There is no problem with this since in the Leninist rhetoric, the proletarian army is first recruited in the struggle. Indeed, as Rosa Luxemburg would put it, “only in the struggle does it become aware of the objectives of the struggle…the masses must learn to use power by using power…”! Here lies one of the fundamental problems of the opposition political parties that emerged in 1990. The masses who had suffered the repression of the regime rallied to their call for change to replace dictatorship with democracy. So they poured into newly formed parties that promised “change” that would institute democratic society. But did they know that “democracy” is more than a slogan uniting the “excluded” and the “marginalized” against the repressive regime? If the approach was to first recruit the “militant” in the struggle so that they learn to use power by using it, what did they have to learn? Since none of the leaders had led any struggle before they came to the helm of their parties, from whom did the militants have to learn? If the old order had to change, what was the content of the new order that had to replace it? Was the new order to emerge through changing the personnel that held power or through changing the institutional structures through which power was exercised, or both? How would the processes of learning be harmonized with the process of change to avoid a vacuum being created following the destruction of the old order that had to be replaced by the new? In other words, if the new order had to be based on different principles and had to operate on a different basis, where was the foundation?
These were the questions that were shouting at the new opposition parties that emerged in 1990 with their various slogans of “change”. Instead of paying attention to seeking answers to these questions, their politics was quickly reduced to the effort to conquer the administrative machinery… councils, parliament, the presidency! And this became an end in itself! Politics was reduced to an object of social competition; a prey to real interests! With this came the interference of the party leadership in the party electoral processes, especially in the nomination of candidates for elective positions, and the election of the leadership of the parties!
Although the regime that was put in place following independence in Cameroon was imposed on Cameroon from outside, following the defeat of the UPC by French colonial forces, the one-party system that followed was not imposed on us from without. The one-party regime was imposed with the complicity of Cameroonians. The citizens may not have been equally receptive to the idea, but certain errors of commission and omission made the institution of the one-party regime possible. To prepare for the advent of a new society that would replace the old, there was need to identify the reasons that militated for the imposition of one-party rule and for the complicity of the citizens. Such identification was supposed to be championed by the opposition parties that promised the birth of a new society. However, the parties could not because they were diverted by this competition for the administrative management of the society.
Like the regime in place, the opposition parties parroted the concepts of the rule of law, checks and balances, parliament and all others bestowed on us by colonialism. However, like the regime, they were hardly ever conscious of the fact that these concepts were not the product of the good nature of any human ruler in human history; the concepts were the product of the serious struggles of people in history, marked by the British Magna Carta, the American and the French revolutions! The gains of these struggles later culminated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of the United Nations and other instruments that have followed it, including in Africa.
The understanding of these instruments is that the individual is the centrepiece of the modern political and legal system. The individual is protected and glorified because all development is the product of the human mind. It is individuals conversant with their destiny, and enjoying all their freedoms that are best placed to hold the conceptions of the good life and realize them through processes that produce “development”. Any new society that is different from the old would envisage that individual citizen live in an environment that frees their imagination, talents and skills so that they can flourish, in order for society to also flourish!
This was not to be the case! Since the parties did not understand the true meaning of “democracy” and “development, it was long before we started hearing inanities from political parties like “politics no bi book”, “too much democracy is dangerous”, etc.! This is not what it takes to change the old order of repression and underdevelopment to a new order of democracy and development. Those who do not understand the true meaning of “democracy” and “development” cannot possibly work for them. Democracy is supposed to be the practices that liberate the human mind to perform at its best and produce development. The rivalry over the administrative management of society caused the parties to betray their original mission of bringing democracy and development. The rivalry reduced their original option of change into mere sloganeering! Change became nothing but the rearrangement of furniture … putting new wine in old bottles ... changing the occupants of offices to continue to do the same thing!

Prof. T. Asonganyi
Yaounde.

rexon

SMALL TALK OF BIG MEN (or red carpet lullabies) (2)


Pavlov and his dog permitted us to understand the concept of reflex action: what you do repeatedly, you start doing unconsciously. But see how we have been given the reverse concept: what you repeatedly punish people for doing, you start doing unconsciously! This is the reverse concept from Red Carpet: “…But what I have come to realize is that something has happen to Barrister Benard Muna between the time he resigned as an SDF militant, went to Rwanda and the time he returned. I have been brooding over this comportment of his and, it is not of late I got clear indications of what has gone through him in Rwanda. You know that in Rwanda you had the Hutu and Tutsi crisis. It is deeply rooted in hatred and killings. Muna went to Rwanda and has lived this situation and one great thing he has learnt from this is hatred. I think he got involved and that has worked in his mind a lot. ..” Small talk by big men; but small talk that is very revealing! Is this due to ignorance of what Muna did in Rwanda, or ignorance of Pavlov’s findings?
The recent break-up of the SDF followed incessant complaints about the nature of the internal governance of the party and the periodic purges that followed agitations about the need to democratize the practices. Internal governance had become arbitrary, autocratic and unaccountable, and there was generalised intolerance to dissent. There was an absence of a membership roll, resulting in generalised rigging during internal elections, thus leaving the leadership in power in perpetuity. The party had been converted to personal property for the procurement of personal benefits and power.
The party was run like a traditional institution; like the king, the leader seems to have come from divine authority and therefore the militants could not challenge the legitimacy of his decisions, talk less of replacing him before his death! This is what we get from this confession in Red Carpet: “… An elderly person I cannot even wear his shoe confides his life in me? Talk less of removing his cap before me? In the context of our tradition, that is an abomination and ill luck to me. Such thing has never happened … I do hope that God gives him long life so that we learn more about the nature of man, the nature of leadership …. As for grooming someone, I have never heard him say anything to that direction … I don’t believe in those who talk about a replacement at the helm of the SDF ... If you believe in God, there is no formula. It is not stated anywhere that Fru Ndi will die before me. People don’t die according to their ages…”
The history of the SDF tells us that there were some 12 “Founding Fathers” of the party. More recently, one of them started claiming that he founded the party alone. This one-man ownership claim is confirmed from Red Carpet as follows: “... Those people who lingered around and pass today as Founding Fathers thought that it was a joke. They pushed (Siga Asanga and Fru Ndi) to go ahead and die. But they went and never died, instead, they became great and these individuals now think that they could drag it to themselves because they once sat around the table when the issue was being conceived…” This was why the party leader started behaving as if the party was his personal property, so he could not imagine a situation in which he would cease to be the leader while he was still alive!
So does the SDF have deals with the CPDM or not? Most people still doubt the answer to this question, but Red Carpet brings us this answer right to our bed rooms “… Because of institutional involvement, I am very close to the people that govern this country. I will meet Gregoire Owona at any time I want, because he is the Minister in charge of relations with the assemblies. I will talk to the Presidency at any time I want; because what I tell him is the same thing that I tell the presidency. That gives the impression that it is a connection. But on the contrary, that is the role of a parliamentary group leader...” We can only hope that this will be the role of the so-called “Shadow Cabinet” members too! After all, they are only relevant if they regularly talk to the subject whose shadow they claim to be, like in Britain where the subject and the shadow meet at least once a day… in parliament! But will they?
Before the 2004, we in the Coalition held rallies across the country and marches in the streets of Yaounde to demand the computerisation of the electoral process. During all of the outings for the marches, there was confrontation with the police and gendarmerie because, although the marches were declared, no receipts for the declarations were issued by the administrative officials. Hardly did we know that since the manifestations were banned, they were null and void! But Red Carpet tells me that they were, in these words “… once a manifestation is banned, even if you use force to do it, it is believed not to have taken place and whatever you do at such instance, is null and void. Even if on the 26th of May, Muna hid himself somewhere and proclaimed himself chairman, the meeting that was projected to hold in Yaounde never took place for the simple fact that it was banned…” Pity for those who think that like in countries like Georgia, Madagascar, Ukraine and others, power could be picked up from the streets! Pity for those who believe in people’s power!
Prof. T. Asonganyi Yaounde


Casoni

We are living in period of modernity and i find it hard to mingle with people who still speak seperetion. Cameroon is one nation instead of us to try and build the nation together as one we are busy trying to sepertate Cameroon.

I will certainly argue that, i do understand the plight of Southern Cameroonians. But people from southern Cameroon must understand that breaking away from greter cameroon will not solve thier problems.

North westerners should be very very caustious when it comes to this southern cameroon issue. I am persimistic of the fact that, if southeern cameroon will eventually break up from greater cameroon, the north westerners stands a chance to be marginlised by south westernres. I am based my premise of the so called Cam no go phenomenon in the south west.

Secondly, the present attitudes of some Anglophones politicians such as Ben Muna, John Fru Ndi, and Achidi Achu etc does not make any difference with the so called politicians. They are all mafias. Who could have believed that chairman Ni John could have still be hanging as SDF president. To day all we know is the fact that, Ni John wants to fulfilled his Child hood dream of being the president of Cameroon period. It doesnot matters what it takes.

Cameroonian should not be overzealous with the fact that if paul is gone and John is in will make any difference in cameroon.

They are all politicians with no agenda of thier Country. No one knows if they are left wing of right, or centre politicians. They all treat politics the way they see it.

To conclude there is only one remedy for Cameroon or the southern Cameroonian dream to succeed. All politicians who was born during the colonial day should makes way for the new generation Cameroonian born from 1970 and above.

To be Continued

Klemenceau-Shalom


What is this Prof. Asonganyi recounting for God's sake? He should stop making a fool of himself. He had all the time to put his newfound ideas in the SDF when he was secretary general. He can't pretend to be more of a politician than others now because he was axed from the SDF.
Look Mr. Prof. since you know what it takes to change the political landscape in Cameroon, why can't you just form your own political party and show the good example. You where in the SDF for about 16 years and could not bring the needed change to Cameroonians. Shame

Shalom

Klemenceau

vally England

Rexon,

Where have you unearth all these very powerful articles of Prof Asonganyi my legend? That man is a genuis of the highest quality. If cameroon had just ten of them the countery would be alright.

Shalom Klemanceau,

The learned Prof is explaining why he opted to resign from the SDF hierachy, he realised that his friends had different missions which he is expaining as you read through his stuff.
If Innoni/Achi Achu/Musonge had all told Biya that they are not willing to continue in the mascarade gov't then change would have long come to cameroon. They all prefer to eat and let all cameroonians die. That is the dfference with Prof Asonganyi,he tells his mine and move on, stand by it and will die by it. What an example of a Man.

Vally England.

Klemenceau-Shalom

Vally England

Correction Mr. Vally England your learned Prof. was dismissed because of outraces that were damaging to the image of the SDF. He didn't resign.

The learned Prof. had all the time to contribute his brilliant ideas when he was in the SDF. He started telling "his mine" mind as you claim only when he was dismissed from the party. If he was really brilliant with nice ideas as he wants the world to see him now, he would have not attempted to take the party's secretariat hostage when he was asked to leave. I'm sure he was deceived by our other learned Barrister Ben Muna.
Vally England, you best know the hide and seek game your Prof. has been playing since he was axed from the SDF. He has been unsuccessfully going around testing fertile grounds to settle.

Shalom

Klemenceau

M Nje

Casoni,
Southern Cameroons is not a legal part of La Republique. It cannot and will never be part of it. If you are PESSIMISTIC then you may want to go under your blanket and leave the rest to those who are optimist.

You may want to know that from 1954 to 1961 Southern Cameroons had an independent government. During the general elections of 1959 Dr. J.N. Foncha won the elections. Dr. Endeley peacefully handed power over to him. The democracy in Southern Cameroons was one of the first in Africa. It worked very well. There is no history of conflict that did hinder the peaceful government in Southern Cameroon then. There is certainly no evidence that a Southern Cameroons state will not enjoy the same peace now. If you have such evidence, then bring it up. During this particular period, East Cameroon was still being ruled from Paris.

Take a lot at the map of Southern Cameroon government at that time. There was no North West or South West. It was one nation. The idea of North West and South West came after the illegal union with La Republique. It is used to divide us, Southern Cameroonians, and suggest some imaginary difference. The office of Prime Minister is currently being used to promote that divide. The ordinary person is Southern Cameroons does not see any different from his brother or sister from any other region. Take the example of the churches in Southern Cameroons. In spite of the great difficulties, The Presbyterian Church for example is one of the iconic heritage of Southern Cameroons. It has existed until this day. We do not hear about major marginalisation of one group of people over another. The same applies to the Baptist Church.

Most of the “Anglophone”politicians you refer to are for the most part fighting for their personal gain. They do not have the interest of the people. You cannot take them as a standard for any rational conclusion.

Again most of the people who promote the so call “Come no go” phrase are politician who wish to see us divided. It is a well calculated effort by La Republique to divide us and continue their exploitation.

So to suggest that we accept annexation from La Republique in order to avoid an imaginary domination of one group in an independent Southern Cameroon is with no validity. No nation or group of people have ever and will ever surrender to Foreign domination. Southern Cameroons will not be an exception.

M Nje


take a "look" not a "lot"

Watesih

Vally England,
We all read this same articles here last year.The difference now is that people have many ways of expressing their frustrations.First,elections are just around the corner,and you know Rexon the disgruntled member of the SDF has run out of material to soil the image of the SDF.You can take a look at his writeups,and you will see how they grow shorter everyday,showing the futility of running down the SDF,or its chairman.He first started by telling us "Hogbe Nlend said",it did not work,so he clung on to renting the house to PMUC,yet he tired himself out .He tried his hand at legitimising Biya`s regime,and called for the boycot of elections.Non of this has paid off,so it is normal to bring in another disgruntled official of the SDF.
Vally what makes Cameroonians laugh out their lungs is that Rexon is serving as Prof. Asonganyi`s Director of publication at the wrong time.Wrongtime because the only thing people are interested now is knowing where the "Renaissance" he boasted of has taken him to.If the "Renaissance" has not yet arrived,then he should make it clear to Cameroonians.If it has arrived ,and left him behind,then telling Cameroonians the eternal story of how he served in the SDF,and left makes him the most boring politician now.If
Prof. Asonganyi wants to colour his recent blunder of hailing Muna as a saviour, and promising that Muna was bringing in a new era,by going back to the same sing-song of
having served ,and 'left' the SDF,then he is
waisting his time. He said he discovered SDF politicians did not know the Nature of Man.
Who is now complaining about Muna? The SDF defeated Muna, but Muna dragged him along by the nose,and abandoned him somewhere.He is now soaking himself in tears about the SDF.
The word "Renaissance " came out of his mouth.If Muna has not delivered the goods, let Prof. Asonganyi take the bulls by the horns ,and bring about the Renaissance he has been preaching on newspaper columns.
Anything short of that is hot air.Yesterday it was Fru Ndi,today he darea tell people not to listen to the Muna he had hailed as a hero.What shortsightedness!

knganjo

Valley England,

Don't be deceived again my brother.I thought you would have learnt from the mistakes of the past.Remember your renaissance trip to Yaunde.What has been the outcome of the illegal gathering that led to the killing of Diboule? Where is the sdf that Muna was elected to head? Do you still remember your five hundred thousand francs donation? How could a renounced intellectual like Professor Asonganyi have given his blessings to a political misfit? Does the Professor not understand that he is part of the team that has failed Cameroonians for sixteen years? If the sdf has failed Cameroonians then Professor Asonganyi is a failure as well.Was he not the chief scribe of this party? Who is he deceiving right now? Valley of England ? or Cameroonians ? Is the professor really sincere? Has the Professor ever substantiated his claims of financial dealings between Fru Ndi and the monarch in Yaounde? How can such an important personality like him make public pronouncements based on useless propaganda and unfounded allegation? Professor Asongayi is merely shading crocodile tears.If the sdf has been a failure as he seems to be claiming in his articles then he too is part of the failure. Is it not rediculous and shameful that a renounced professor like Asonganyi be misled by a political cheat like Ben Muna? How could he allow himself to be led by the nose? Valley of England, please don't be bitten twice.What would be the essence of history if people can't learn from the mistakes of the past? Hypocrisy and lack of political forseught is worst than sin.

Rexon,
Are you the successor of Benb? These cutting and pasting of useless and baseless information goes a long way to confirm what people have been saying here about you.A disguised cpdm spy passing around as an SCNC activist.Who doubts the fact that you are on a campaign mission for the ruling junta in Cameroon.Elections are around the corner, so it is time for you spies to make money.Shameless hypocrites.

rexon

Knganjo,

Why worry about the useless informations?Dont be afraid gentleman. When someone writes something on the media, it either helps him gain followers or acts on the contrary. The useless informations (as you describe it) pasted above are for readers to digest and either accept or reject them. If you think they are worthless, then dont read them anylonger? I dont paste them for anyone who thinks it has no substance to read. Asonganyi was an insider in the SDF and whatever he says, (no matter how foolish) might have some realistic informations. Politics in not enmity and we should fight with ideas and not weapons. So as far as i am concerned, my criticisms against the leadership of the SDF is a good thing. I want them to think over it and resign and join the right freedom figting movement for Southern Cameroonians.

Vally,

More are still to come from Asonganyi and Co. They are under review and are new articles. Dont be deceived by those who want to brand it obsolete. We have been sharing REALISTIC discourse with many who worked with the SDF and i know how it works internally in the SDF. As you know, i will be changing strategies soon and after getting this Asonganyi's discourse to this forum. After, i will come-up with bombshell revelations. He was an insider and his side of his story need to go to all nooks and crannies of our brain. I am not fibhting SDF but trying to get his own side of the story out. Feko got his a late last year and we are all well informed on how and why the SDF was created. So all those mocking us in Camerounese parliament should be distanced and Southern Cameroonians should know the truth about these politicians and their politics.

The conference in Dallas went well. La Republique sent some agents there and we caught them. I have been trying to paste some infos and i am still waiting from my advisers. I am still to get some reflections from them.

Cheers.

Klemenceau-Shalom


Hi Rexon

I would be glad to get the info about the Dallas conference. What did you guys do to the agents sent by La Republic? If you could read my mind, then you will know exactly what I think should be done to such people. I am sure the "palm bird" called Ricardo was there.

Shalom

Klemenceau

Fritzane Kiki HK

Rexon,
Please encourage Him to write more and educate those who see it as coming from someone who is 'frustrated'.Those who think his articles are not touching the fundamental problems of the present political euphoria in Cameroon are missing the point.

What really attracted my attention was his blend of events leading up to the failure of the SDF party.He exposes how the concept of reflex action has been a flaw to the SDF leadership.

Also,his implicating not only of the only 'Founding Father' amongst the 12,but Muna and others for the failure of the SDF is glaringly clear.His view of the present SDF is that of 'periodic purges' we called the 'toothless bulldog' that barks but cannot bite.Again questioning SDF's leadership partnership and rubbing of shoulders with the ruling party is what he said was against the by-laws of the party and of the parties heirarchy and status-quo, that lead to his dismissal.

According to the party's heirarchy he was not supposed to challenge the legitimacy or supremacy of 'his'(NJFN-the life Chairman) decisions, whose policies are more dictatorial than democratic for an opposition party leader that seeks for a political reform and change.

Rexon please bring us more feed backs from our fellow professor.He is worthy to be praised for his selflessnes,steadfastness,intolerance and non-alignment stance.He will be rewarded for his works in the democratisation of Cameroonians in the next government be it under La Republique or under the SCNC.He is full of credibility and qualities of a qualified leader.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Watesih

Klemenceau,
Frustration is a bad thing.Imagine Professor Kiki Fritzane calling on the other Professor in political wilderness to join the government of La Republique they pretend is bad.At this moment the SDF has shaken off all dead wood like Muna ,and Asonganyi,and is marching forward.If they still believe in revelations about the SDF,and Fru Ndi then they should see a psychiatrist.The first revelation would have been palpable evidence that Fru Ndi eats with the Cpdm,but here is Prof. Asonganyi instead telling us that Muna is nothing.If the SDf failed so many years ago,
why should a Professor waste his time talking about a failed thing,rather than giving an insight into their "Renaissance".
We can see frustrated political pawns like Fritzane, Rexon,Vally of England trying to hide the shame,and defeat the SDF has inflicted on them,by crying out for help from another defeated individual.Just imagine Paul Biya going after Robert Mugabe to teach him politics! Even a trained thug like Mukete ran into speed breaks making revelations about the SDF and Fru Ndi.

Klemenceau-Shalom


Watesih

I think we don't need to worry about people like Prof. Asonganyi who make utterances because they want to console themselves and draw sympathy from those who see Fru Ndi and the SDF as a hindrance to them.
You will bear with me that Kiki is one of those who think others are fools here. He claimed not to be interested in politics but is one among those who might commit suicide because Fru Ndi is still the chairman of the SDF. If you were following the trend of events here, you might have discovered that Kiki became so bitter and started castigating Fru Ndi when Prof. Asonganyi was axed from the SDF. Some people will not bother if their relatives or icons are punished for breaking the law except Kiki. This guy wants to crucify Fru Ndi because his Prof. was dismissed from the party. If he had an iota of what makes a true politician, he Kiki would have instead called his renounced Prof to reason.
Watesih, Vally England is not different from Kiki for they both have the same grievances. As for Rexon, I don't see him as hating Fru Ndi. His problem is that Fru Ndi should have joined the SCNC to foster the liberation of Southern Cameroon. He strongly holds the idea that the SDF was created to liberate Southern Cameroon. This is the area I strongly disagree with him. I know Fru Ndi can easily help if he decides to join the SCNC to fight for the liberation of Southern Cameroon. But he (Fru Ndi) will be betraying the SDF la Republic followers if he does this.
It is because of the above reason that I have been reminding Rexon and other comrades that we can regain our independence without Fru Ndi and the SDF.
Let Kiki, Vally England and others continue to fight a lost battle. What Asonganyi and his disciples are doing is what the infamous Mukete did and failed. So we need not bother about what they are writing.

Shalom

Klemenceau

Akoson


Rexon,

Prof. Asonganyi is a cunning politician. He plays try and error politics. If you can remember quite well from all the articles he wrote which were published by the Post newspaper, they bore so much favouritism. He favoured the "Muna-SDF faction" and disfavoured the SDF that showed him the door. He beckoned Cameroonians to "rally behind the 'authentic' SDF". Which was he referring to as 'authentic'? Of course not that led by Fru Ndi. Like I said earlier he was working on try and error...he thought the 'Muna-SDF' could cause a miracle. Unfortunately for him it failed and failed woefully. An "authentic SDF" turned AFP is the result.

Prof. Asonganyi hurrily comes again to the media and lambastes those same people(the 'authentic SDF men) he was supporting underground. Today he's between and betwixt. He's using cheap tactics to lobby support, admiration and sympathy. Had the evil men (Muna, Ngwaisir et al.) succeed in inflicting bruises on the SDF would he have come to call these same men he supported and termed 'authentic', stomach politicians? Rexon, we're not kids! Thank God we're gradually learning from the past and understanding who's who.

Prof. Asongnayi doesn't deserve an inch of the Cameroonian peoples' sympathy.However, I didn't vote for his exclusion from the SDF. I personally frowned at the NEC decision that ex-communicated him from the party. I challenge him though to go to the public and substantiate the hearsays that the SDF hierachy dines with the CPDM. Without this I insist vehemently that he doesn't deserve the sympathy of Cameroonians.

Casoni, Southern Cameroons is not breaking from La Republique. We're an entirely different country. We're one of those countries that haven''t gained independence yet. La Republique is guilty of bridging international law boundaries and crimes against humanity. La Republique is only an invader and an occupier. It is our God given right to exist as a people and nation, to control our destiny and resources...

The son.

rexon

Despite Absence of ELECAM:
SDF Set For Elections- Fru Ndi
By Adolf Mongo Dipoko and Innocent Timbong


Barely a few days after political parties were summoned by the Prime Minister to a meeting which raised hopes that the 2007 elections will be postponed, the “Natural Chairman” of the Social Democratic Front, SDF has said his party is set for the elections despite the absence of ELECAM.
Fru Ndi’s reaction to Eden last night comes in the wake of President Paul Biya’s decree convening the electorate for the 2007 municipal and parliamentary elections on 22 July.
Fru Ndi said the fact that at the SDF National Executive Committee, NEC, meeting in Limbe, the party insisted that it was only proper for the elections to be postponed until ELECAM is put in place did not imply that that SDFF will not go for the elections.
He said the NEC was acting on the grounds that President Biya had committed himself to the Cameroonian people with his promise to put in place an independent electoral body to conduct the forthcoming elections.
PM Inoni
Fru Ndi noted that under the present circumstances, the SDF had already engaged in its primaries and this was enough to prove the party’s preparedness for the elections.
The SDF chieftain said the party is set for the elections, ELECAM or not.
The National Executive Committee, NEC of the party met last week, Saturday and ordered the primaries to begin.
The convening of the electorate by the President, coming after the Prime Minister’s meeting with political parties and the appointment of an ad hoc committee to study the modalities for putting ELECAM in place, have provoked criticism from cynics who believe both the meeting with the PM and the ad hoc committee are issues in bad faith.
The convening of the electorate has however, taken the international community which has been pouring in millions in advocacy programmess to dissipate the overwhelming voter apathy aback.
According to statistics from the Ministry of Territorial Administration and Decentralization, voter registers carry just a little above 4.5 million registered voters, which observers believe, is considerably low in view of the population of Cameroon, which pundits estimate between 15 and 17 million, government having refused to release the last census results. This has been in spite of appeals from opinion and political party leaders.
Though the creation of ELECAM gave hopes that they may carry out the elections, particularly as the 45 day mandate ends on the same day that of the current National Elections Observatory, NEO expires, it is now crystal clear that the election will be conducted by NEO.

Feli

Prof. Asonganyi,
I now understand why some militants were very disappointed with you and called you a confused theorist. For every article you publish today to criticise the SDF, I can show a counter-article you had published during your tenure in the secreteriat to show how the SDF is light years ahead of ALL other political parties in Cameroon when it comes to democracy. Some keen readers used to compile such, you know, but I would not reduce myself to the level of doing cheap copy-and-paste.
Prof. ,I am disappointed to know you went through the SDF but the SDF did not go through you. In all of your writings today, you either deliberately ignore or forget to mention the fundamentals of SDF's politics; which is basically grass-root politics!. All of you who failed woefully in this domain would always have a grudge to bear with the NEC or the national Chairman. You hold him responsible when the CPDM rigs in your fief Lebialem. You hold him responsible when the SDF candidate in Buea is disenfranchised by the regime. You hold him responsible when SDF members of voting commissions fail to perform their duty thus facilitating fraud and results engineering.
So all of what you have recited is a lacklustre manover to distract readers from your weaknesses when it comes to field politics. It is the same thing we have been hearing and would hear from Seidou Maidadi, Martin Nkemgu, Nyah Margeret, Souleymane Mahamat etc. All persons who have never won primaries or who have failed in their duty of promoting and protecting the interests of the SDF in their constituencies.
Now, Prof Asonganyi, since I know you are a regular reader of these columns, I would like to leave an advice for you here.With your good mastery of political theory (although Ntemfac would differ with you on that)and most especially LIBERALISM, please form a Liberal poltical party where every member has the right to indiscipline, where members would manage the party and finances according to their will, where there are no internal rules and regulations to check the excesses of human nature. When you do this, you shall be sure of some really faithful militants, at least from this forum!!!

rexon

Feli,

I also have this advise for you, since that is where we differ and that has always been my cry. Since the SDF is a party of discipline, where members manage the party's finances and provides checks and balances, where there are rules and regulations, etc. i want you and the party's hierarchy that are regular readers of this forum to consider doing this:

1-Refuse to participate in all elections conducted by La Republique because that does not reflect the checks and balances the SDF always claims. If there is checks and balances in everything the SDF does, they cannot accept to go in for elections that has already been rigged and whose results have already been dictated in hotel suits and presidencies by kingmakers in europe and the US. That shows that the results does not reflect the peoples will and if the SDF accepts going in for elections, even if they are declared winners when there has been no independent electoral commision in place, then they have mainly accepted but what i will describe as "stolen goods" from the CPDM and France.

2-They (the SDF) should dissolve the party and form another party or register this SDF created by Mukong and co to fight for the human rights and freedom of Southern Cameroonians in the Southern Cameroons and under the laws of the Southern Cameroons. Recall that, we have political parties registered in the Southern Cameroons like SCAPO and Ambazonian liberation movement. So if the SDF continue lying that it is fighting to liberate the Southern Cameroons from within La Republiques politics, i would continue my fight to prove the contrary.

3-If they maintain the basic ideas, manifesto and consitution created by Southern Cameroonian activist who initially thought they would liberate the Southern Cameroons from within the politics of La Republique (like Mukong, Feko, Luma, Anyangwe, etc), then i would consider all what they are doing as "STOLEN GOODS" and theft of our heritage and ideas and i won't tolerate that.

4-If the SDF does not do any of these things and stand to continue mocking us in Camerounese parliament. Then all those supporting them would be considered as either accepting "stolen goods", blind and ignorant of the facts, liars and should be called into order gentleman.

As things stand, we can only feel that the JOB of you people is to colour La Republique as a multi-party democracy in the eyes of the international community and gentleman, you are really doing your job very well.

Thank you.

Feli

Rexon,
who is ignorant here? I have proven time and again that you have no idea of what you are talking about. At one time, you attempted to figit with fictitious figures about representation in the SDF, when I corrected you, disgrace forced you to change your tactics.
As our friend Watesih said, your inconsistence when it comes to political debate shows how shallow your mindset is. Yesterday, you harped on PMUC, tomorrow it is Hogbe Nlend, the next day it is "paid by La Republique" and then soon it is "STOLEN GOODS" etc. This is first class confusion, for you are ready to digest statements from anyone (Ntemfac,Asonganyi,SN Tita, Ben Muna) who has something to say against the SDF or the Chairman no matter whether the person shares your acclaimed political ideology which is supposed to be Southern Cameroons or not. This reveals that you are more interested in the SDF than in the independence of Southern Cameroons, and thus if you had your way, you would immediately dive into "La Republique's" politics. Also,this is what has been encouraging many of us to keep on believing in the SDF. For almost everyone who leaves the SDF to do Southern Cameroon's politics, always feels nostalgic about the party and if they don't eventually come back, the party always remains the subject of discussion. Since we have studied this trend as in the case of Tchop Samuel, Martin Yembe and even SN Tita; the conclusion has been that the SDF is the only real political institution in Cameroon and can not be ignored. This pleases me indeed.
Now to help correct the jargon you persistently write on this forum, I shall like you to revisit the events that led to the launching of the SDF otherwise you will keep on making a fool of yourself on this forum and no one not even our friends of the SCNC like Ma Mary, Njem Mk the southerner etc would take you serious.

http://www.sdfparty.org/english/history/128.php

rexon

Feli,

Stolen goods is when you take something that does not belong to you. If the SDF accepts to go for elections whose results has already been rigged, even if they are the winners, then that is stolen goods and that does not reflect their soo called checks and balances. It is stolen goods because of the following:

1-No Independent electoral commision.
2-Does not reflect the will of people.
3-Has been dictated and decided in hotel suits and Paris.

Even if the SDF wins, it is still stolen goods. So the councils and parliamentary seats that you people have been accepting is stolen goods. Because it does not reflect the will of the people.

If NJFN wants democracy, he should fight for it within the checks and balances politics of the Southern Cameroons.

Thank you very much.

Watesih

Klemenceau,
You certainly know who Professor Kiki Fritzane,and Vally of England are,but you don`t know who Rexon is.He is a venerated whistle blower on practically every issue,and about everybody.Klemenceau your new found interest about Rexon surely comes from the sophistery Rexon tells you that the SDF was created to fight the Anglophone course,and that he is right to fight it.Ask him to show you how a political party registered under the laws of La Republique was created to fight for the Anglophone course,he won`t tell you.All he knows is that Feko said so,just as he knows that Hogbe Nlend said Fru Ndi cannever be President.Feko mentioned this last year,but we have been writing with Rexon here for years now,and by concentrating on character assassination for a very long time gives you an insight into who he is .He say things about the SDF,its leader and other Cameroonians according to his changing mood,and according to the political situation of the moment.He will tell you that," NJFN is not a political God.He is a normal Southern Cameroonian politician like any other person.He is a public figure ,and should be criticised .He is not a God", only to fail in his ability to scrutinise everything around him,and tell the world,"My own brother is a Cpdm hardline one,but that does not make him my enemy".
Klemenceau, Rexon will tell you," Yes ,Fru Ndi tried his best to liberate us,and give us some courage to speak.We clearly heard where Feko argued that most of the Founding Fathers of the SDF were not courageous enough ,and that is why Fru Ndi was the first signatory of the SDF documents as chairman.I laud his courage ,and when he was risking his life,others like Ngwasiri , Anyangwe were afraid of their jobs, and positions" Would you believe that the same Rexon will tell you after a few days that people like Anyangwe have been responsible for our freedom.If Rexon`s bid to rundown the SDF,and its chairman had been succeeding
he wouldn`t have shamelessly said he wants to change tactics,and seek the services of failed ,and frustrated politicians.This gives you an idea of how we have carefully made him to walk naked in front of the world here.This is his manifesto about the SDF,and no amount of help from Prof. Asonganyi will wash this away: " What i have realised in the pastdecade is that Cpdm Politicians invest in destroying the SDF .They do this through bribing corrupt journalists to write bad things about the SDF,control councils through government delegates ,and secretaries to destabilise realistic projects to be executed by the SDF.Then after doing all these ,they turn around ,and say they are better than the SDF,as the SDF would have been more corrupt had they taken over power. Aren`t you Cpdm guys stupid. Why don`t you guys measure your ability to govern on what you are actually doing ,but on what you think the SDF will do if it takes power.And when anybody wants to complain ,they turn to the problems of the sdf as if the evils that the BIya regime through its Cpdm junta had done to Cameroonians has been energized by the problems of the SDF.How are the problems of the SDF connected to the theft,corruption, shootings ,fraud ,underdevelopment that has been going on in La Republique.You guys should grow up in your thinking.It is like you want us to legalise corruption instituted by La Republique for some irrational reasons"( Rexon Dec, 14 2006)

rexon

Watesih, Feli,

My dear brother, why crying even though you are still using your old trick of copying, editing and pasting? You still have time to answer my questions. The argument has come to checks and balances. Lets discuss it, rather than calling names, thesame names you people have been calling everytime and accusing Rexon when he calls the names of NJFN.

About checks and Balances in the SDF, I had this advise for you:

I also have this advise for you, since that is where we differ and that has always been my cry. Since the SDF is a party of discipline, where members manage the party's finances and provides checks and balances, where there are rules and regulations, etc. i want you and the party's hierarchy that are regular readers of this forum to consider doing this:

1-Refuse to participate in all elections conducted by La Republique because that does not reflect the checks and balances the SDF always claims. If there is checks and balances in everything the SDF does, they cannot accept to go in for elections that has already been rigged and whose results have already been dictated in hotel suits and presidencies by kingmakers in europe and the US. That shows that the results does not reflect the peoples will and if the SDF accepts going in for elections, even if they are declared winners when there has been no independent electoral commision in place, then they have mainly accepted but what i will describe as "stolen goods" from the CPDM and France.

2-They (the SDF) should dissolve the party and form another party or register this SDF created by Mukong and co to fight for the human rights and freedom of Southern Cameroonians in the Southern Cameroons and under the laws of the Southern Cameroons. Recall that, we have political parties registered in the Southern Cameroons like SCAPO and Ambazonian liberation movement. So if the SDF continue lying that it is fighting to liberate the Southern Cameroons from within La Republiques politics, i would continue my fight to prove the contrary.

3-If they maintain the basic ideas, manifesto and consitution created by Southern Cameroonian activist who initially thought they would liberate the Southern Cameroons from within the politics of La Republique (like Mukong, Feko, Luma, Anyangwe, etc), then i would consider all what they are doing as "STOLEN GOODS" and theft of our heritage and ideas and i won't tolerate that.

4-If the SDF does not do any of these things and stand to continue mocking us in Camerounese parliament. Then all those supporting them would be considered as either accepting "stolen goods", blind and ignorant of the facts, liars and should be called into order gentleman.

As things stand, we can only feel that the JOB of you people is to colour La Republique as a multi-party democracy in the eyes of the international community and gentleman, you are really doing your job very well.

Thank you.

Feli

Rexon,
I can not speak on behalf of Watesih but I had made it clear to you on this forum that in order to be involved in real debates, one has to get the facts correctly.
Do you expect me to waste my time in polemics when you make stupid statements like "..this SDF created by Mukong and co to fight for the human rights and freedom of Southern Cameroonians in the Southern Cameroons and under the laws of the Southern Cameroons. ". This is absurd! Class seven pupils would teach you Cameroon history since it appears that is where your main weakness is.
Secondly what do you expect the SDF to do, when militants campaign, vote and oversee the results as regularly practised in the North West, and get their representatives elected? You expect them to surrender their destiny,fight and struggle to the CPDM and the French man? You must be mad or on a very special mission.Really disgusting!!!

rexon

Feli,

Surrendering its destiny. Ha Ha Ha. If the SDF did not want to surrender its destiny, it would have fought the CPDM in 1992. That was a good fight that you would have described as not surrendering its destiny. Your talk now is useless. Useless and vagues and uncalled for. If you think participating in legislatives and administrative arms of La Republiques government means defending the destiny of the SDF, i am afraid, you need to go back to school. Primary School of course. People have defended their destiny in Ukraine, Georgia and SCNC, SCYL is defending the destiny of Southern Cameroonians. Your destiny is already in the hands of the CPDM and they decide on what councils, parliamentary seats go to you SDF as they have been deciding.

Concerning checks and balances that you cited, I expect the SDF to stay clear of Camerounese parliament, councils and politics. Because, there can be no checks and balances in the councils and parliamentary seats they have been given. These councils are controlled by CPDM imposed secretaries, government delegates, the parliament has CPDM imposed parliamentarians after results of different constituencies have been rigged. So no talk of checks and balances from anyparty clapping hands there. You see my madness and where my reasoning is coming from. It is because of this madness that i am being chased by the CPDM and SDF. Anyone who participates in such councils or parliaments cannot claim checks and balances. You need to stay objective, and lets talk of the checks and balances.


Anything short of staying out of Camerounese politics, the SDF is mainly doing business with thesame CPDM they are criticising, and the business is "COLOURING LA REPUBLIQUE AS A MULTI-PARTY DEMOCRACY".

You see the madness in me and where it is coming from?

Klemenceau-Shalom

Watesih,

You have misunderstood me point as far as Rexon and his criticism of the SDF is concerned. First of all I have reminded him (Rexon) here time without number that the SDF was not created to liberate Southern Cameroon. It was created to fight for the Freedom of every thing that is our right in Cameroon. I admire Rexon for his fight for the liberation of Southern Cameroon. But I have always criticized him in the way he attacks Fru Ndi and the SDF.

Watesih you got me wrong when you say as I quote you below;

"Klemenceau your new found interest about Rexon surely comes from the sophistery Rexon tells you that the SDF was created to fight the Anglophone course, and that he is right to fight it"

As I mentioned above, I have written here several times that the SDF was never created to fight for the liberation of Southern Cameroon. I even asked Rexon one time to tell this forum if Fru Ndi single handedly changed the manifesto of the SDF that indicated that it was to fight for the Freedom of Southern Cameroon before handing the documents for legalization. But he only hung on what Feko wrote here.
Watesih, you will agree with me that most Southern Cameroonians if not all will be happy if we can regain our independence. The Southern Cameroon struggle is something that not any kind of person can be so vocal about it. That is why I admire Rexon's courage, his being vocal shows his courage and he obviously risk a lot by doing this. I also think that he wants to crucify the SDF and Fru Ndi because he knows the following Fru Ndi has and believes that the Southern Cameroon course would be fostered if Fru Ndi add his gives his full support. But he forgets that the SDF and Fru Ndi stand for Federal States which is also part of the solution to our problem.
I have always challenged him on his take on sensitive issues. He sees anything that he feels is a hindrance to the Liberation Struggle as very bad. This makes him sometimes to write the way he does. He expresses his frustration sometimes through his writings. (This is my personal judgment from the way I understand his write ups, so no one should quote me wrong.)

It is because of the above reasons that I concluded that he doesn't hate the SDF or Fru Ndi. His previous write ups can testify my interpretation.

Watesih, hope you got my point

Shalom

Klemenceau

knganjo

Rexon,
You get it wrong each time yoiu try to link your so-called SCNC struggle to the sdf and Fru Ndi.Why do you think that only Fru Ndi should lead the the struggle for the emancipation of the Southern Cameroons? Is Fru Ndi the only Southern Cameroonian who has refused to join the struggle for the liberation of the Southern Cameroons? Have you ever spoken to your brother a Southern Cameroonian a who militates in one of the most corrupt regime on earth about the SCNC? Just like you attack Fru Ndi on the forum day -in-day-out, you should be doing same to your brother a stanch supporter of the corrupt regime in Cameroon. Fru Ndi and millions of Southern Camerronians who militate in the sdf are not fools.You mentioned of a so-called succesful convention of the SCNC in Dallas USA.What did they achieve? Division as usual? The so-called convention had not ended when Ebong was calling for a meeting of his own faction in the US.What are you guys taking Southern Cameroonians for? Fools? Remember you can fool some of the people some of the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time. I have said and will continue to say here that the SCNC'S PROBLEM IS NOT FRU NDI.The problem is the commercialisation of the SCNC by the so-called leaders. The lack of a credible leadership is what should be troubling you. Get rid of the wolves who parade the world as SCNC leaders. Do you know that the former Chairman of SCNC USA was unemploy for the two years that he was in office? How much salary does an SCNC leader make? How was he able to pay his bills? Was he and his crew accountable to anybody despite of the millions of dollars they collecct from Southern Cameroonians? His successor is not any different.Why are they all fighting as to who has to sign what or who has to go to where and speak onbehalf of the SCNC? Can you all remove the these pecks from your eyes before pointing accusing fingers at others.

Fritzane Kiki HK

Mr Ndik,
Can you clearly justify your claims in your above article?
Do you think there is any credible claims that the SDF is ready to challenge the CPDM in the up-coming twin elections?The present case scenario where NJFN is eroded from his duty to give checks and balances of traumatic and stressful decisions imposed by Biya in the postponement and rescheduling of the elections to July,and he(NJFN) takes pleasure to say it helped the SDF and/or NEC to prepare for their primaries,is just startling for observers who expect a different approach to the prevailing political events in Cameroon.

If the SDF needs to gain momentum it need not go with the CPDM flow.The elections in July have been termed as of vanishing importance since it lacks credibility to address the on-going politcal purges and suffering of the masses, it instead increase public fears of the dramatic and troubling reality facing our fellow brothers and sisters back home.NJFN najed aggression and self-interest will not solve this stalemate.There is need for a sudden change.

The state-sponsored election in July will have far-reaching implications and discredit the 'peace' reigning in the country if the SDF and other opposition parties do not look for means to conquer this Biya's rigging machinery in the name of ELECAM.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Fritzane Kiki HK

Feli,Watesih,Klemenceau,
There is no bond of contention.Stop crying more than the bereaved and make yourselves the unusual malevolent actors to unleash the dragon out of your dictatorial uncle NJFN.You are exposing your complicity with the SDF while under-estimating the contribution Professor Asonghanyi made before he was jealously made to leave by the NJFN's bunch of faggots self-interest politicians.He became a victim of circumstance and of a discriminatory law within the party.You can dispell the myths of invulnerability but the out come of the political stalemate remains only in the control of the ruling party at the detriment of the innocent SDF lots and sympartisers.

Watesih,
Sorry you misunderstood my language.What I meant was that Prof.Asonghanyi being a victim of that racial discriminatory laws and by-laws of Fru's party, could have been a driving force to the SDF course.But owing to the arrogance,self-interest and hypocricy of NEC's(NECK in French)members and the SDF heirarchy ,they misconstrued his capabilities and he was considered a scape-goat.Watesih I meant that Pro.Asonghanyi stood the test of time.He is an example of the models of political discipline and has never fallen short of his political obligations of non-alignment or cross-carpeting.He is therefore a tool or a measuring rod for a brighter,dynamic political and a condusive atmosphere that needs to use him in the future governments.If the SDF dies Prof.Asonghanyi will not die.He will be used by other political parties to continue his good works.He needs credits to his records.

The SDF can succeed if they consider their role as a national party and not a regional noise-making NGO in Ntarikom.Look at their degrading present status.No one even know the parliamentarians to run for posts.There is a serious canker worm plaguing the party.We hear SDF parliamentary and Coucil hopefuls are presently pondering over their incumbent elected posts but they will be shocked by catastrophic election results come July.The CPDM has already laid its groundwork for to pick the remaining sits.Wait and see.

Fritzane kiki
Hong Kong

Watesih

Rexon,
Lets look at your rambling.Before we talk about checks ,and balances involving a Political party,we must say humanbeings who always constitute themselves into these parties should be examples of moral rectitude.But you fail the test from the onset ,because a brother of yours is dinning with a devilish regime,and you say you can`t consider him dangerous.Is this where your philosophy of checks and balances begins? Lets look at your new sing-song point after point.
1. Rexon the first thing is that you called for elections to be boycotted,but that just ended in your keyboard.You now think the song of checks ,and balances will help.The SDF is a political party which is fighting to come to power,and bring about checks ,and balances that the other party can't provide.
The first thing to show that the party knows how to go about such things is its acceptance to go in for the consultations the PM hosted to put Elecam in place.The party provided a document stipulating what a democratic structure of this nature should look like.One thing must be made clear,that the SDF,and the world can`t stop Biya from being a dictator,just as they can`t stop Robert Mugabe,but the SDF will never throw in the towel for whatever reason.The French,
and their agents in Yaounde want to wipe out our way of life.There`s no other force apart from the SDF to stand up to them.Our leaders even did something to create a body that could appeal to the people,and stand up for our rights,but all what we have got from its leaders,and proponents like you Rexon are insults, backstabbing,ego boosting, fraticidal wars,personnal aggrandisement,and doing everything to pit us against one another.Rexon ,you in particular have highly done a disservice to the Anglophone course,
by taking up 3/4 of each year talking about the SDF and fighting your own brothers on-line,and doing nothing practical about the SCNC.If your so called advisers had once told you you were doing a good job pretending to be lurked in a fight with Fru Ndi,and the SDF,then that was the biggest blunder of this century.The day you will see a Palestinian wanting one of their leaders to join them in fighting for their homeland,and at the same time involving himself in character assassination of this leader,come and tell us.
2.Don`t make yourself a laughing stock.Where did the SDF promise that it was fighting to liberate Southern Cameroonians from within the Politics of La REpublique? The SDF is a national party ,registered under the Laws of La Republique.It will continue following its agenda to liberate the whole country.Any other song about the Southern Cameroons is not the SDF's business,but that of the SCNC.
The ball is now in your court to carry on with your fight for autonomy.If your bones are too weak,then know the SDF will not help you,never!
3. Rexon ,from today you want to make the whole world to look at Anglophone leaders as the biggest fools this world has ever got.
Imagine a people that have been colonised for over thirty years,only to see their leaders "initially think" in 1990 that the SDF was going to liberate them within the politics of La Republique.You just want to make our leaders look like people who don`t know the difference between a political party ,and a freedom movement.Of course they do,and created one freedom movement in 1994,
which has become a money making venture,and has produced some of the most gossipy,power mongering individuals today.
4. Rexon,get it clear,the SDF is not colouring La Republiques parliament.It is part of La Republique`s political landscape,
and there's nothing you can do about that.It was registered under the laws of La Republique.But a body that was separately created to fight for Anglophone autonomy wants to hide under the SDF,to mask their leadership tussle,feymania,character assassination,but we will continue to make a clear distinction for all Southern Cameroonians to see,and hold these racketeering gurus accountable.
Rexon,to conclude,i will advise you to get ten of Prof .Asonganyis to help you in concealing your failure to rundown the SDF,and your inability to lead a march to No. 10 Downing Street as Southern Cameroonians have been calling on you to do.You have become too frantic,so this is the right time for Prof. Asonganyi to use you to try to hide the slap from Muna,and make a political come back.But we will see to it that the SDF lives,and lives comfortably.If Muna had killed it off,you wouldn`t have been going on your knees after people to write things for you to post about it.

Watesih

Klemenceau,
I understand you ,but i want to make it abundantly clear to you that being vocal has nothing to do with the success of a freedom movement.Being vocal about the SDF 3/4 of a year doesn`t add anything to the Anglophone course.As long as there are two bodies,and proponents of one have elected themselves to conceal their inability behind one,that is where they have lost the fight. As long as the SCNC is known as a freedom movement,and it is not delivering the goods,any loud sounding nothing about the SDF,and its chairman by Rexon or whoever is escapism.Klemenceau ,which are the frustrations that Rexon personally encounters with La Republique that he wants to channel in writing.Organise a simple match to N0. 10 Downing street he cannot,but his frustrations end behind the keyboard.Southern Cameroonians are intelligent people.They will never be any success if the likes of Rexon go online pretending to have frustrations,butbashing away on individuals. Klemenceau as an individual you are free to share in his frustrations,but i will never, because he doesn`t represent anything to me.I have not yet seen what he has done and can do,apart from being vocal online.How would you expect Southern Cameroonians to be singing the SCNC song when Rexon,and his theorists are singing the Fru Ndi,and SDF song?

Prof.Kiki OP.Fritzane,
What strikes many people about you guys is the lack of personality.You and your second master Prof. Asonganyi can take two steps ahead,and 60 behind. Your minds are playing a dirty trick on you guys.Prof. Asonganyi was on a ride with "Renaissance",but today he is back to square one,about what he used to be in the SDF.By the way what did he use to be? He used to be very indisciplined.Refusing to serve in Bamenda,doing everything to disgrace his leader in public,refusing to appear before the disciplinary commission,
did everything to destroy the party by taking along his brothers.What SDF is Prof. Asonganyi talking about now? Didn`t he take along his brothers?
Kiki Op. Fritzane ( Prof), you exhibit the same nasty touch of constantly trying to cheat yourself. Listen to yourself," I am simply a critic. I am not interested in the dirty game of politics being played by the SDF,and Cpdm"( Dec 03 2006).Here is a Professor trying to hang himself ,caling people faggots,because he wants them to listen to frustrated politicians who are trying a come back to the great party.Advise your man Prof. Asonganyi to take his fight else where.The SDF defeated both him ,and Muna,and moved on.Let him go and cry his Renaissance near Muna`s new party.

rexon

Watesih,

If you look keenly into your commentaries in this forum, you would realise that you are one of the most cunning individuals this forum has ever produced. You are someone without a personality and have no independent mind. Your personality and ideas are dictated by what the SDF has to do or say without questioning them. When there is any crises, you always struggle to please every reader of this forum irrespective of whether their views differ from yours. I take my stand based on my own understanding of events and stand for it. I am not a politician but a realist. I am not here to win votes or win the hearts of unscrupulous people. That is my stand. I try to be better everyday, that does not mean i dont have my own faults, or have never contributed in one way or the other negatively in events in my country. I have been at the SDF and at the time, i was also talking about CHECKS AND BALANCES wrongly. But now, i have taken a stand, not to lie to myself that there is any CHECKS AND BALANCES in the SDF. Because clearly, they have accepted stolen goods from the enemy in the form of councils, parliamentary positions, executive positions in parliament, etc. These are all STOLEN GOODS as there is no way we can pretend that it reflects the will of the people. Dont you know even the SDF rigs elections? Dont you know there is always more votes than the number of registered voters in most polling stations in Mezam, Mutengene, Kumbo, Muea, etc. These are SDF strongholds and they always force more votes for the SDF and we cannot claim it is the CPDM that rigged elections everytime. The SDF go for the election because we have something to gain and we cannot deny it. That is my take on the issue.

I talk about the SDF policies and i talk about the people who ramble with these policies for personal gain. That is part and parcel of the politics. You dont shy from talking about SCNC leaders this or that, or Rexon's brother, why should you want me to be afraid to point out the role your leaders are playing to bring down our political conciousness and our freedom? Coperation with anything fraudulent is itself fraud.

Anyway, lets go to the crux of the matter as i dont want to waste time on senseless issues.

1-Feli said the SDF is a party of Checks and Balances: If the SDF was actually a party of checks and balances, then they cannot accept "STOLEN GOODS". These are goods that dont belong to you. Elections are meant to reflect the will of the people. The only way we can see this is when free and fair elections are conducted. As things stand, ELECAM or ONEL are not IEC and they cannot conduct free and fair elections. So we cannot talk about checks and balances in this type of politics of the SDF. If they ask someone with a high degree of credibility to vote in an election conducted by an electoral commission that is not independent, he have the right to say NO. That is checks and balances. Because any results that comes out of such an election is incredible. If you go in for elections that has already been dictated and whose results has already been decided by unscrupulous people in hotel suits and presidencies in Paris, London, New York, etc. you should NOT TALK of checks and balances, at least FOR the moment. So spare us the talk about checks and balances. That is my stand on this issue. Whatever comes out of the upcoming elections in La Republique is "STOLEN GOODS". Whoever takes part knowing that there is no IEC after being informed by people like us is an unscrupulous being.

You guys are the one responsible for the downfall of Africa. Because you legitimise the evil actions of dictators by colouring their government as a multi-party democracy. If all of us stand for NO COPERATION with unscrupulous governments not only in Cameroon but all over Africa. the leaders would be forced to change. But as you know, some people like to chop, and there when they are chopping, they would hide behind theories of checks and balances. And see anyone criticising them as an enemy. No, I am not an SDF enemy in my soul. If the SDF is declared winner in an elections that was not conducted by an independent electoral commision, if they accept councils controlled by secretaries, if they accept to go to a parliament that there are filled by people who got there through rigging, if they accept to dine in parliament with murderers, i am afraid, they cannot claim any checks and balances. That is fraud of the highest order and NO TALK OF CHECKS AND BALANCES.

Cheers my brother. I love you All.

Fritzane Kiki HK

Watesih,
You people are the one dragging that your party behind.I am not involved in any way to any party sorry.I am just outcrying the racial and tribal discrimination against a recognized and outstanding learned Prof. Asonghanyi's dismissal by money-mongers and power-hungry bootlickers of the hand-to-mouth politicians in the SDF.Prof. Asonghanyi has been under pressure for the past years in his tenure as SDF secretary following continuous ethnic profiling and incarcerations from within the SDF.That notwithstanding he decides to bow out of this disturbing political climate,accusations and counter-accusations levied against him.

Watesih,I guess we should not be suffering from others mistakes by default.Fru was always pleading for Prof. Asonghanyi return.What crime has our learned Prof. committed to merit such appellations and disgrace?He saw the meeting with the SDF hierarchy as a means to bring him back to the party's desk but he vehemently objected the repeated calls from NJFN.Please cogitate and retrospect his efforts and achievements in the party in his years as the Secretary of the party.He is not vying for any post neither is he a member to-be of any political block.Why should his write-ups and enumeration of events, call for collective guilt and agitations amongst SDF hierarchy and sypartizers?

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Cheboy

In a meaningful and objective discentralisation of administration, creating more sub-divisions would be a positive contribution. The problem here is whether the president is really discentralising. Remember that his discentralisation politics have not led to any visible change in the administrative system. If people have to do their vehicle registration, obtain ID cards, apply for pension and social benefits etc. at these sub-divisional level, then Cameroon would be making a quantum jump towards bringing administration closer to the people.

The whole suspicion emanates from the manner in which Biya has created these sub-divisions and the pre-history of our electorial system. I am not yet sure that such newly created sub-divisions will go operational so soon mainly due to lack of infrastructure and other logitics problems. This means that they shall surely become operational only after the twin elections. If they get operational before the elections with SDO's etc appointed to organise elections in their respective sub-divisions (Remember that NEO is a toothless bull-dog), then Biya's interest is not discentralisation. Let's only watch while telling our people at home to be vigilant.

rexon

MK THE SOUTHERNER WROTE:

"When they sing like this the parliamenterians go to Yaounde and collect their budget. Fon Doh is in the parliament and the parliamentarians are fine so far as their budget is passing.Infact let it just be said that the have reduced the budget of these parliamentarians,see how sdf parliamentarians will lead some fullish Southern Cameroonians to a sit down strike".

Great. Keep the flames burning.

knganjo

Fritzane Kiki,
Asonganyi cannot eat his cake and have it.That is what people are saying here.When your colleague the professor asked Cameroonians to support the authentic sdf which faction was he refering to? Was he not asking Cameroonians to support a political cheat? When Asonganyi went and attended the illegal convention in Yaounde and gave his blessings to Muna, what message was he sending to Cameroonians? To abandon the strugggle to emancipate their country from the yoke of tyrany and corruption.To ignore the true sdf and follow a political crook.To fraternise with a rebellious group that was in possesion of a devilish agenda for the sdf. To him Cameroonians should have rallied behind a politically naive and power hungry fellow.However, the professor was making a mistake of historical magnitude. The sdf unlike other mushroom political organisations in Cameroon is a grassroot and popular party.It is the base that dictates the the tone of the party.High sounding titles have little or no effects at all . Cameroonians are too wise and mature to be taken for granted.Professor Asongayi wants to play the chamileons game. Having realized that he allowed himself to be dragged into the mud by a politically dishonest fellow he now turns around to announe to the world that there is no honest politician in Cameroon.Nonsense.I want to believe that of the over 18 million Camerronians he is the only honest one.More grease to his elbow. The professor should make a u-turn and return to the fold and ask for forgiveness.Shading tears in newspaper columns will not help the professor in any way.He should blame himself for lack of forseight and repent and comeback to where the true patriots of Cameroon belong.I mean the true sdf of John Fru Ndi.He should be courageous and comeback to this great movement.Many others have done so. He will be forgiven seventy times seven.

Klemenceau-Shalom


Watesih
In my last posting I said I judge from what people post here. I am someone who believes peaceful coexistence can help a household to unite and fight a common enemy. We Anglophone Cameroonians have a common problem but different camps have different ways of trying to see how this problem can be solved.
Watesih, I personally believe as maybe the case with you that while I stand for the SDF, I must not castigate the SCNC. That is why I have called on Rexon on several occasions that his attack on the SDF will be doing a disservice to the Liberation fight. I say this because I know there are many SDF members who will at any given time stand behind the SCNC to fight Biya and his gang members. If we continue to throw insults and preach hatred for each other, we will be giving Biya the upper hand to subjugate our people the more.
The SDF as a political party has a voice in one way or the other to talk on the Anglophone marginalization. We have heard Fru Ndi on several occasions telling Biya and his gang members that the Anglophone provinces are neglected.
Whether we are for SCNC or SDF, we should criticize to build rather than destroy. We should criticize while showing love. Bitterness has never and will never be a solution to any problem. Instead we will be giving the devil the leeway to separate and render us more vulnerable in front of the Etoude oligarch and his Beti clan.
Brothers you can throw away my opinion but accept me as one of you please.

Shalom

Klemenceau

Akoson

Please Rene Dibi, M Nje, Rexon, Tayong should contact me privately at magamestref@yahoo.com.

Thanks

Klemenceau-Shalom

Knganjo

Don't bother yourself with Kiki. I have diagnosed his problem. He thinks Cameroonians are shallow minded that he can play with words to fool them.
Kiki was the one celebrating when Ngwasiri was deceived by Ben Muna to announce that he had taken over the SDF. They were all rejoicing at that time and Kiki was always looking forward to the success of their authentic SDF with his Prof’s back as SG. But Kiki was so blind to see that the SDF is the people's party and that only the people could decide the fate of the party.
When his authentic masters met their waterloo with Ben Muna shamelessly giving up, Kiki became hysterical. He has become so restless that he confuses who the bereaved in the present situation is.
Kiki, Muna finally buried your authentic SDF, so you guys are the bereaved that is why you have been shading tears here.

Shalom

Klemenceau

Fritzane Kiki HK

Mr Klemenceau,
Why all these ramblings.My campaign against radical die-hearted blind-folded sympatisers like you and your colleagues Watesih,Fon and Feli will not end if the SDF and its entourage does not set a coherent set of objectives.It pains me why if Fru Ndi becomes the legitimate president of Cameroon?But thinking of this brings a strong connotation of fear in the minds of opinion makers and critics like myself.Take note that in our system, a strong presidential leadership is essential but if unchecked and undebated it can also do damage to the soul of our self-governance.The Cameroon government should be built on the presumption that 'ambition' and 'will' counteract ambition.But so far ambition has largely manifested itself in a desire to avoid the blame that can be associated with making difficult decisions.

To all observers and critics,what took place within the SDF lastly was a belittle semantic sideshow, since the resignation of Asonganyi,Muna,Ngwasiri and host of others left a power vacuum of a fragmented political leadership in the SDF.All the inner voices and enlighten critics express a dissenting view about the SDF of today.The power bestowed to Fru by those he dismissed is a vivid illustration of his self-glorification ideologies and tyrannic rulership.I strongly see his rule as dictatorial and lacking substance with his lofty rhetorics of 'power to the people'.Yet he has consume the power to himself for the past 16 years.

Those of the tyranny movement and fanatics of the SDF like Klemenceau,Watesih,Fon and Feli, are advocating and ambacking for a hault to those who are castigating their chairman's rule.I stand for a free and fair elections come July though as a non-partisan and as an activist in the integrity of the upcoming election.This will be meant to avoid any election discrepancies and all anomalies shall be investigated, so that we can see how many sits in parliament and councils our fellow brothers of the SDF will have.All your oratories will bear no fruits, let's see what will happen in your ballot debacle with the CPDM.Enough of this your hysteria.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Watesih

Rexon,
Thank you for bringing that aspect of my character to public notice.The ability to please a cross section of people when there are crises.That is what leadership is all about,and that is exactly what you lack.Your ability to speak for the SCNC has been betrayed by your racist undertones,and your lack of personality.It is easy for you to say today that Fru Ndi is evil,and the next day say he liberated you and gave you the ability to speak.It is easy for you to try to be more Southwesterners,in order to attract their sympathy,but when SN Tita is touched,you come out telling the world you are from Mbatu.My stance in every issue is quickly made clear by my ability to communicate clearly.Every contributor here knows how i tackle issues,and where i stand.
I with other contemporaries have called on the SDF,and SCNC to work togther ,just as the Palestinians are doing.By doing this we come closer to each other,and maybe subsequetly breakdown our barriers.But just like in many other cases ,you have shown a characteristic penchant for divisiveness.You are not only involved in Fru Ndi bashing,but attack practically all outstanding Southern Cameroonians,always saying nasty things about them.So how would you not be upset about the positive response others get.One thing is clear.You have failed to inflict any harm on the SDF,and you have failed to show any concrete results from your online militancy.WE will continue to point out your empty rhetoric about the SCNC to right thinking Southern Cameroonians,and do well to protect the SDF .

Klemenceau,
Anybody is free to create a zone of comfort for himself.We will continue to defend the SDF.Had it been we let up a year or two ago,the Rexons,and Prof. Asonganyi would not be still talking about the party today.This party was launched with the blood of Cameroonians,and we are going to confront those trying to destroy it in a firm way.We have succeeded so far,thats why they keep going,and coming back.You,i and thousands others have been insisting finding common grounds between the SCNC,and the SDF,
but Rexon has chosen the path of confrontation.Allow him to play out his logic to the end.You cannot talk of brotherhood to somebody who is used as tool by politicians to further their ends.

Profesor Kiki Op. Fritzane,
You don`t still get it.If Prof. Asonganyi has become a Historian to innumerate events,let him enumerate events about his "Renaissance".The SDF had moved on,let him move on.Anything short of that means he has been taught the bitter lesson,and wants to use cheap theorists like you and Rexon to stage a comeback.He got his brothers and left.Let them form a party together,or wait for their master Muna to give them posts in his new renaissance he created with Maidadi.Prof. Asonganyi can become Secretary General there.THis is what Muna wanted,but he keeps cosying up to Fru Ndi`s name,and the SDF.

Akoson

"...I with other contemporaries have called on the SDF,and SCNC to work togther,just as the Palestinians are doing.By doing this we come closer to each other,and maybe subsequetly breakdown our barriers..." (SIC). By Watesih (Tuesday, 01 May 2007 at 12:15 PM).

Watesih, there's no iota of doubt that you FULLY understand the mission of the SCNC. And you've consistently reminded readers and your admirers(I'm one) that the objectives of the SDF and SCNC are not the least compartible. Case in point is a statement you made minutes before posting the above quoted quote.

"...Any other song about the Southern Cameroons is not the SDF's business,but that of the SCNC.The ball is now in your court to carry on with your fight for autonomy.If your bones are too weak,then know the SDF will not help you,never!..."...Watesih Tuesday, 01 May 2007 at 01:24 AM ...(SIC)

Watesih my dear friend, how can you reconcile the above quoted quotes?

The son.

Akoson

My dearest SDF militants,

Something crossed my mind last night. A very important issue that affects the future of the SDF. I'm calling on all and sundry to debate about it.

What is it all about?

The trust and popularity Ni John Fru Ndi has!

While in Cameroon 19 out of 20 people I talked to regarding change of SDF leadership from Ni John Fru Ndi to someone else said they'll drop their support for the party. That is the SDF and Cameroon of today. Ni John Fru Ndi is so passionate so much so that if I'd the opportunity I'll seize power from the Beti oligarchy and handover to him and see what change he can bring. In him I've noticed a great leadership quality no other African politician can boast of, outside Nelson Mandella. I'm talking about his love for peace and is not a power monger. Unlike other African leaders who're being cheated in elections he refuses to become a rebel leader and seize part of the country.

In one of his trips to Kumba sometime ago(I'm afraid the exact period has just escaped my mind) a poor and old woman fell to his feet, held him by the legs and cried out in tears:

"i dong see chairman, suffer don finish". Fru Ndi stooped, held the poor lady and cried with her for several minutes. It touched me and touched me so deeply.

It is from that day that the famous unofficial slogan "SDF, suffer don finish" came to being.

Of course, the above example where Ni John Fru Ndi shows extreme passion for Cameroonians is just one out of a million cases. He does similar things everywhere around the country.

I'm saying all this cos I want us to understand how passionate he is and how he's been able to meaningfully and realistically translate this passion so much so that the common suffering Cameroonian on the streets (the buy'am sell'ams, truck pushers, peasants, the jobless etc), who cannot boast of 50 dollars a month, WANT HIM AND ONLY HIM. For them NO ONE ELSE can be able to stand the test of time. And that Fru Ndi is the unlucky and cheated messiah to the Cameroonian people. Most of them will shed off their support for the SDF when power changes hands or when Fru Ndi dies suddenly(God forbids!).

I am therefore arguing that the SDF will loose millions of militants should Fru Ndi quit the stage. I'm worried and uncomfortable with this. What is the SDF doing about this? Or do we think that my logic is good enough. Let's talk about this.

I'm calling on Watesih, Rexon, Klemenceau, Tayong, Fritzane, Knangjo, Cheboy,Feli, M Nje, Vally of England, MK the Southerner etc etc. to join me on this debate.

The Son.

Watesih

The Son,
Let me take on your concerns above first,before we look into the passionate debate you are proposing.You know when we fight subjugation,it should be in all forms.
You don`t doubt what i can do for the SCNC ,do you!That staetment refers to those who want to hide their inability by playing some scapegoatism here.It means there`s a clear distinction bwtween a freedom fighting movement,and a political party.Get it clear again,the SDF as a National party will never go against its manifesto,and start preaching division.But Sdf militants ,especially Southern Cameroonians better understand the dynamics at work.They can use the two movements to bombard Biya ,until they get their way out.This is how i understand it .If am wrong the Son,shoot back!

ABOUT FRU NDI NOT QUITTING THE STAGE
The Son,every movement that has succeeded in the world has always had an emblematic figure.This is not different from Fru Ndi.You mentioned Mandela,and there are others,Martin Luther King Jr, Ghandi,Mao Tse Dong etc.Each of them had shortcomings,but the essential thing that prevailed was their message to reject oppression.Most of them always go through physical,and mental traumas.
With Fru Ndi,the point is not just about quitting.It is about whether the people with whom he started the fight now think the time is ripe for him to quit.If the SDF has not been doing anything under his leadership,
then why should Biya appoint Government Delegates to councils he did not win,why can the SDF not come in the tenth in all elections.
The son this is my first gist.I may come up again later.Leadership has to do with personal intergrity.Speaking the truth ,and respecting others.You certainly agree with me that FRu Ndi is the only opposition leader who for more than 16 years has shown good sense of judgement,levelheadedness.He has allowed the others to play out their calumny on newspaper colums.When he has his grievances,he calls his followers ,and tells them in family.

M Nje

The Son,
I will give a reponse to your comments. It will come in another posting. One cannot resist but laught at how one individual can express two positions, with clear contradictions within 1 hour 14 minutes.

Here is your posting:

"...I with other contemporaries have called on the SDF,and SCNC to work togther,just as the Palestinians are doing.By doing this we come closer to each other,and maybe subsequetly breakdown our barriers..." (SIC). By Watesih (Tuesday, 01 May 2007 at 12:15 PM).

Watesih, there's no iota of doubt that you FULLY understand the mission of the SCNC. And you've consistently reminded readers and your admirers(I'm one) that the objectives of the SDF and SCNC are not the least compartible. Case in point is a statement you made minutes before posting the above quoted quote.

"...Any other song about the Southern Cameroons is not the SDF's business,but that of the SCNC.The ball is now in your court to carry on with your fight for autonomy.If your bones are too weak,then know the SDF will not help you,never!..."...Watesih Tuesday, 01 May 2007 at 01:24 AM ...(SIC)

Watesih my dear friend, how can you reconcile the above quoted quotes?

The son.


Your posting above (Tuesday, 01 May 2007 at 05:17 PM) comfirm what many have said here. That this is one group of followers of one individual, Ni jon Fru Ndi, who are either really blind or dishonest.

Well, the jury is out. But I can tell you that the statements from your posting (Tuesday, 01 May 2007 at 05:17 PM)cannot represent any example of honesty. It is deception at its pick. What a shame. Who are there fooling?

It goes to the core message of the SDF to Southern Cameroonains; a message of deception and dishonesty. A message that has been propagated in this forum. You can see it coming out now in the form of self contradictions from blind followers.

How low can it get.


M Nje

correction:
"contradictions within 13 hour 14 minutes"

not

"contradictions within 1 hour 14 minutes."

Fritzane Kiki HK

So M Njie,
I see you as a perceptive observer.Explain to us your present stance;are in favor of the antagonistic bootlicker leadership and weak-kneed defeatists of the SDF or you are with those fighting for the empowerment of the Southern Cameroon cause and you are ready to champion the freedom?Enlighten us your opinion for this present delemma of the anglophones.Be it the SDF,the CPDM or the SCNC.Please don't take sides be objective and stick to your words.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Cheboy

Hi all,

I am beginning to wonder if it makes sense to comment on anything in this forum. Look at the title and content of this article and read the argument going on about Asonganyi, SDF and Southern Cameroon. Why do we make a battle front out of anything? You all expect to be regard as educated gentlemen, but your tendency to deviate from a main topic is just unprofessional. Instead of seriously debating the issue of newly created sub-divisions, you start an internal party dispute. We were reminded sometime ago that this is not an SDF forum. Take your battle to the SDF or Southern Cameroon website and allow us discuss factual points concerning the article. Spare us this too much personal and emotional discussions that even result in insults.

Che Mofor

Fritzane Kiki HK

Watesih,
Opinion makers and strategists like myself,who hold a pessimistic position about the deplorable political situation in La Republique,don't envisage any of the names below to ever temper to become the president of La Republique one day,hopelessly hopeless in their sense of patrimony,fighting a loose battle.They are;

Fru Ndi
Ngwasiri,
Ben Muna,
Asonganyi;

None can be the president of La R du Cameroun;never,ever, don't dream of that.If they cannot manage an NGO like the SDF then what do you expect?I always say this,since they are just at the centre stage of the political sphere to encourage the CPDM carry out its vicious objectives and exploitation against the Southern Cameroons.Cameroonians have generally acknowledged the fact that to achieve a concrete victory we need to change our strategy in working with the La Republique.

Anglophones have been made to always remain the 2nd class citizen in the day-to-day running of the country.We have unexploited potencials and know-how that are in-born in us but the French will always want their children to represent in all domains in various competitions and scholarships.Unless the Anglophones become conscious of this penicious impact then shall we know we should all stand out and say 'NO' to this shit,enough is enough.Presently there is a quiet revolution in the country which a large proportion of Anglophones are aware of.But time will come when the revolution will explode.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Watesih

M Nje ,
If the message of the SDF to Southern Cameroonians is that of deception,then you should use the SCNC,and send a message of truth.What Southern Cameroonians want is action.Not vacillitators like you,who praise Fru Ndi today,and the next day forget what they said,and call him a devil.This is your view about Fru Ndi: " Thank you very much Chief Ayamba for that assessment. I made a similar remark a few days ago.I am inded delighted to see you reaffirm it. Mr Ni John Fru Ndi is a very courageous man. A brand of Politician who will not sell out his followers for personal"( Dec 22 2006).How does this your statement present you to the world in the light of the one above; " That this is one group of followers of an individual, Ni John Fru Ndi,who are either blind or dishonest" . Are you also blind or dishonest?

Akoson


Cheboy,

For meaningful debate on the above article we need to know the figures of the last census conducted by the CPDM-led government. Anything short of that will be waste of time.

By the way politics is a game of quid pro quo. On this forum you'll find a majority of so-called anglophones. They're patriots and worry about their people. This worry plays central stage in the politics of La Reuplique. And any politics that play central issue in a country is the target of discussion and debate anywhere anytime by those patriotic men.

Cameroon has one of the most complicated politics in the world - two distinct cultures that can NEVER EVER be nicely compartible until thy kingdom come. Southern Cameroonians discuss issues concerning their people cos Southern Cameroons is their constituency - where they belong.

The son.

Akoson

Thanks Watesih for the light comments you made about the post-Fru Ndi SDF. I'd appreciate more debate guys. Keep thinking and writing.

The Son

rexon

M Nje, Akoson, Fritzane, Watesih, Klemenceau, Forumnites:

I have just posted my votes. I voted for the Scottish National Party (SNP) and for Tommy Sheridan's Solidarity Socialist Party. I voted for them because, they have made it clear that they are for the independence of Scotland. The Laws of the UK, gives them the right in case they have a majority of parliamentarians for Scotland to call for a referendum in the Scottish/UK parliament. They are lying to anybody. They are for Scottish Independence.

What does the SDF stand for? The answer is, in politics we dont know. In business, yes, an NGO that is unaccountable and collecting money and investing in themselves pretending to be investing in an inexistent democracy. If you oppose them, then you are struggling to remove "CHOP" from their mouth. Like the CPDM, they will kill you. That is why they have thugs everywhere. Attacking people and their families.

Concerning checks and balances and clean financial records, We all know what checks and balances is all about. If you talk about checks and balances, then you should not accept STOLEN GOODS. You can all consent with me that for all the elections that the SDF has been participating,there have always been no Independent electoral commision. They the SDF parliamentarians have been dining with Fon Ndoh in parliament. Even though he has been a murder even before the Kohtem case came to the limelight. They have been working in Camerounese councils controlled by secretaries, government delegates, etc. Where then is the checks and balances and financial transprency? This is thesame talk we hear from the CPDM. They are on their business with Biya to colour his democracy and we should'nt be fooled into believing the contrary. I call on every Southern Cameroonian to ask his/her families, friends, etc not to vote.

M Nje,

I hope you have contacted Akoson. We have a very great idea to be developed. I would be grateful if you can also contact me. I have something to suggest to you.

Watesih,

The problem that you have with guys like myself, Kiki, M Nje, MK the Southerner, is that we are trying to remove CHOP from your mouth. Nothing more. You and I know the truth. NJFN, and any other Southern Cameroonian can never become president of La Republique, because,that is not their country. They should not be afraid of our democracy in the Southern Cameroons. You always make a mockery of Southern Cameroonians by calling the SDF national Party. What nation are you always referring to? If they want to play politics with La Republique and fight for the independence of Southern Cameroonians which is the reason why our bloods were sacrificed, then they should contact the SNP, SSP, etc in Scotland. I can create the links they need.

Cheers.

rexon

correction: they are not lying to anybody

Langai

Akoson, Watesih, Rexon, Knganjo, Feli:

In reaction to Akoson’s message to SDF militants, I wish to say the little I know about JFNdi and his humanitarian approach. In the late 1970s, I had a friend who was very close to JFN. Most weekdays after work, he used to tell me he was going to see Ni John. No idea what they discussed, but I imagine things here and there, maybe football. My friend’s enthusiasm was really high, and when I heard about the bookseller launching a political party in May 1990 against the deployment of the security apparatus in Bda, I believed that the man was very courageous. In 1992, I attended his rally with the Union for Change at the AH Stadium Yde. It was a mammoth crowd that easily gave the incumbent fever. This convinced me more than ever before that this was a kind of messiah. Even professors like the one Rexon is promoting here sat down on the bare ground to listen to JFN. Unlike the incumbent, he crissed-crossed the country many times and still does, and can feel the pulse of the population.

The point is, he has faced obstacles from the ruling clique in all sorts of ways. The SDF is a grassroots party. You will recall what Mbah Ndam said in May 2006 about the stand-off with the Muna group. He said when he went to the SDF Secretariat and people started calling him “patron”, he knew that something was wrong. Mbah Ndam said real SDF militants call him “Mbah Ndam” simply, and I am sure they would call JFN in the same way. Power comes from the people. It is not because you dislike the Chairman that he should leave. Rather the party should, as Akoson seems to be saying, start thinking of the post-Fru Ndi era. Nobody has lived for ever. So a successor to JFN is only logical in the end.

Now, should a political party disclose all its strategies? No. This party said “No Elecam, no elections”. The ruling party is very happy when it hears statements like these. If the opposition faces stubbornness in the absence of an Independent electoral body, it should not run away and give the ruling band a free hand. It should also make things hard for the gov’t. I do not see what else a political party like the SDF can do in the face of a wicked anti-people government like the CPDM government. They can’t fold their arms and watch.

REXON, the SDF was never formed to liberate Southern Cameroons. It was formed to snatch Cameroon back from the hands of looters and absentee gangsters. If you keep singing your song about Feko having said this or that, how come he (Feko) and Mukong advocated joining forces with the Yondo Black in Dla? Do you think this group cared a jot about the Anglophone problem? Do you think this group was ever going to include the independence of SC on their agenda? Read more about this from the following clip from the SDF website. You have been given this link several times but you have failed to look at it. Instead, you have pursued your smear campaign against the SDF, to the greatest satisfaction of your paymasters and the ruling clique. Many have pleaded with you to focus on your independence struggle, but you have failed to listen. You claim you have advisers. I am sure they have all gone to sleep while you run down the cause of the SCameroons. Although pleading with you is like pouring water on a duck’s back, I am again appealing to you to leave the SDF alone to do its politics in a difficult set-up. It already has too many hurdles to cross without your having to add to the weight of its burdens. By forming new administrative units, the ruling clique is creating headaches for the SDF and others. This means they will have many more DOs to face, and the rigging machine will be used to the fullest. The clip from the SDF website follows:

“The decision to transform the Study Group 89 appears to have been influenced by many factors but what actually pushed the members to take this decision at this point in time was the fact that diplomatic missions in Yaounde while they appreciated the work of the Group, wanted them to clarify their official status as well as leadership. During the February 17 meeting, the founders resolved that whatever the name of the political party, the words ‘social’ and ‘democracy’ must be part of it. Justice Nyo’ Wakai presented a paper during this meeting (17/2/90) entitled The New Social Order for Cameroon. This paper served as the basis for the Manifesto of the SDF. Also during the February 17 meeting Messrs Mukong and Feko informed the Group that there was a similar initiative going on in Douala led by one Mr Yondo Black and suggested that they invite the Douala Group to join them. The meeting considered that such moves will result in the leaking of the initiative to the regime and consequently it will be nipped in the bud before they are able to take-off (from the ground). Messrs Feko and Mukong, however, maintained contacts with the Douala group on their own accord. They were subsequently found out, arrested and charged for trying to form a political party.

On Saturday April 4, 1990, the Group met at Professor Clement Ngwasiri’s residence in Yaounde to put final touches on the Manifesto…

http://www.sdfparty.org/english/history/128.php”
Maverick

Fritzane Kiki HK

CheBoy,
Sorry I don't sympatize with any party not even the SCNC.I am a radicalist and a critical observer.I will remain what I am.As a Cameroonian I must have a critical look at the mess going on in party politics.What is important in that above article than more councils being created?You can spend your time in talking about the SDF and its constituencies but that will not influence my stance on what i see and judge about the political instability and discrepancies.Those bootlickers of the SDF should continue with their hand-to-mouth politics.

Rexon,
Congratulations for your cast.Hope you made the right choice.I don't know when the African governments will ever have a free and fair elections like those of the Western Civilisations.I enjoy the way the referandum has been conducted in Scotland to liebrate the people to have their own government.The Southern Cameroonians are still not sure for their own referendum yet.Maybe the antagonistic leader in Mvomeka will still add his term of office and veto the bill.Let's only hope the Southern Cameroonians can have a say too one day.

Watesih,
I have never been against any party since I am a non-partisan.I am always against their ideologies.I am not in a politics of audacity,talking much than doing.Those who express their agony and dissatisfaction of my views should go to hell.I don't see any dynamism in what you guys call multi-partism which instead of empowering the masses for a general struggle they are in turn fighting for the empowerment of individuals.Both parties CPDM and the SDF are known for their wides-pread corruption and abuse of power.I can only hold an optimistic position if these crooks of politicians step down and give way for fresh and young breeds,than to remain stagnant with those old faces in the political scene;25 years in power is not different from 16 years in power, incorporated with a disastrous mismanagement of state funds and properties at the detriment of the masses.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

rexon

Maverick,

I think you are mis-understanding me. As long as the SDF stands for La Republiques politics, then all their activities should be distanced by rightminded Southern Cameroonians. That is part of my patriotism to my nation, the Southern Cameroons. It involves a fight against all political institutions and people legitimising the colonisation of the Southern Cameroons. Feko acknowledge in his write-up that he was making a mistake. And i think i am helping the SDF is asking them not to make thesame mistake. In one way or the other, the spirit of our liberation is embedded in the SDF. Now, if we have to fight using the SDF, we should be clear about it. I dont like cunning politics. I prefer to have factions that stand for thesame thing like the SCNC, SCYL, AMBAZONIA, than to have factions that have contradictory (not complementary) ideologies. Now, if you guys still stand for Camerounese politics, i am afraid, i will have no other option other than to fight you. I will see all what you are doing as a business entity that is just colouring La Republique as a multi-party democracy.

Maverick, let me tell you something practical. Since the SDF started collaborating with La Republiques parliament, Southern Cameroonians abroad can no longer talk about problems in Cameroon. Because, the international community thinks there are no problems there. In places like Norway, they served Asylum seekers documents reminding them that their country have a peaceful democracy with the largest opposition party in parliament coperating peacefully with the ruling party. The net effects is, we have to consider the benefits the participation of the SDF in Camerounese parliament has brought to our poor families back home. As you know, standards of living is dropping, unemployment is improving, our peoples lives is going backward. The few clapping hands in Camerounese parliament are making millions, chopping very much my friend. So lets get the facts clear. It is a business not a political party. Lets get it clear from today. The business is to colour La Republique as a democracy and that is why we cannot move forward and have followers within the international community. If the SDF stands clear of Camerounese politics, there would be a great net effects on our fight for freedom. The Scottish National Party, Solidarity Party, Scottish Socialist Party have all stood clear of English Politics. Why not us??????????

Cheers my brother.

Feli

Akoson,
In politics, it is unwise to talk in absolutisms. It is true, Ni john Fru Ndi is a very, very charismatic man.I say so because I have seen soldiers jump out of military trucks to help tow and push the Chairman's car out of muddy swamps on Cameroon's abhorrent roads during campaigns. I have seen market women and hawkers abandon their goods just to applaud the chairman's convoy.Also, I once accidentally stumbled on the Chairman and 2 colleagues of his in Paris Charles De Gaulle International Airport and I was amazed to hear Malians, Ivorians and Senegalese recognise him immediately, saying to their colleagues "C'est le Chairman Fru Ndi, chef opposant du Cameroun". All of these events confirm one of the essentials of politics which is: in order to propagate an ideology, one needs a very strong, consistent and charismatic leadership. This is where most of the Chairman's adversaries know he has a tremendous advantage.
That said, I do not hold the opinion that the SDF will be deserted when Ni John Fru Ndi leaves the political scene. I say so because the party organises Electoral District conferences, Ward Assemblies, Provincial conferences on a regular basis according to the party's constitution, and the enthusiasm in the thousands of militants present during these meetings and rallies is still glaring eventhough the Chairman's name is not even mentioned at times.
Kiki,
you claim to be an academic but one is left to doubt that claim by wondering about the quality of your writing, the consistency of your thoughts, the veracity of your facts and your poor spellings. You say "....Asonghanyi has been under pressure for the past years in his tenure as SDF secretary following continuous ethnic profiling and incarcerations from within the SDF...." You try to give the impression that Asonganyi was victimised and that mainly because of his tribe.Rubbish. If it were true, why did NEC vote for Hon. Dr. Ndobegang to replace Asonganyi after he (Asonganyi) repeatedly despised the authority of the Disciplinary Committee??? Hon. Ndobegang hails from Lebialem as well as Asonganyi. The disciplinary committee was headed by Mayor Etienne Sonkin of Dschang.
Many of us do not know that during his tenure as SG, Asonganyi was one of the strongest proponents of the famous Art. 8.2 of SDF's constitution (loss of membership). In his address to the 1999 Convention in Yaounde he asked SDF delegates to "jealously preserve this aspect of the constitution.." while encouraging other parties to "introduce it into their agendas". Today the confusionist Prof. talks of "periodic purgists". So it is because of ignorance that others are easily lured into such confusion.
Again, such statements like the ones made by Kiki above have made me to understand this forum better. It has some frustrated persons who maybe because they live in countries where no one has an interest in them, they think the best way to spend their time is to write nonesense about the SDF and Ni John Fru Ndi on topics they have absolutely no idea of. I have seen this confusionist trait in Kiki and Rexon!
My message to them is to try harder for the strategy is clearly not working.Not at all!

vito

Feli,
to correct is good ;encouragement,better.That's Goeth.Its a fit alright to reason and reflect in pidgin and express oneself in english.Translate kiki's write-ups into pidgin and they'll nmake sense.For the veracity of his claims only Rex; or their owner can help.I leave that to her.Hope this helps.Thanks

vito

...feat alright...

Watesih

Rexon,
You can frame the fight in anyway but you are not going to have your cake and eat it.Readers should finally set their minds at ease because you have finally come out clear why you guys cannever do anything for the SCNC: " The spirit of our liberation is embedded in the SDF". People had been doubting why internet freedom fighters hang on to a political party.They have now got your stance clearly.I was very surprised during the UB crisis when you started weeping for the SDF to come in and help.When i always said you guys had surrendered your weak bones to the SDF,people thought it was an overstatement.Hear how a weakling will cry:" I have even called some of my friends who are in the SDF to ask why their hierarchy cannot join the striking students.This is the time we need those so called politicians.Since they are more organised ,they are supposed to use this opportunity to overthrow the evil Biya regime.That is our cry"
1. How can the SCNC become more organised also? By signing asylum affidavits,and deporting people?
2. How can a freedom fighter need help from the politicians he is fighting?
3. Who is supposed to overthrow the evil Biya regime,a national party,or a freedom fighting movement?
Rexon, the answers are blowing in the wind,but we pity you when we find you completely helpless;" I agree with all you guys say. Only sniper methods should be used.The problem is there are not enough resources on the ground"
4. Are you waiting for the SDF,where our liberation is embedded to provide you with the sniper methods?
5. How can you imaginarily embed our liberation in the SDF,and at the same time want to destroy it?

Professor Kiki Fritzane,
Why do you think people who do not agree with you should go to hell.Who is complaining the loudest here? Of course you,because from Muna to Asonganyi you have lost every argument.You have gone from not doing politics to a professional mourner." I am simply a critic .I'm not interested in the dirty game of politics being played by the SDF,and Cpdm". Are you only interested in the politics Asonganyi plays ? Politics is difficult to talk!

rexon

Feli,

Lets narrow the debate:

You speak checks and balances and financial transparency.

Can you tell this forum how your SDF has defended its checks and balances policy and financial transparency in participating in an election whose results has already been dictated?

Does that in anyway reflect the will of the people when there have been no Independent electoral commision?

As a Southern Cameroonian, Can you explain clearly how the SDF will help the Southern Cameroons with their politics with La Republique?

Watesih,

I have never thought i am struggling to destroy the SDF. Maybe, i am doing the wrong thing. I have always insisted and believed i am helping them showing the way of light to them. There are political parties in the Southern Cameroons and they can be registered there. Worst still Feli speaks of checks and balances. Because, i think they can play better politics in the Southern Cameroons. That is why i always remind them of the Scottish National Party, the Scottish Socialist Party, the Solidarity Party, that is presently about to win elections in Scotland and forsee a peaceful transition of power and referendum to ascertain Scottish Independence. To be more specific, i have received help and advise from people from these parties. They have always made it clear to me that the biggest obstacle to the Southern Cameroonian independence is the SDF. This is because, it commands significant power in the Southern Cameroons and it was formed to liberate the Southern Cameroons from the colonisation as you and i know.

Feli

Rexon,
I am glad you are finally realising the confusion we have been drawing your attention to. From PMUC, to Hogbe Nlend, STOLEN GOODS, to La Republique's parliament etc. Yesterday it was Hogbe Nlend said,or Feko had said, or Ntemfac Ofege was saying, today it is Asonganyi says,the Scottish National Party, the Scottish Socialist Party, the Solidarity Party is saying.... etc.All persons or institutions who either lack a knowledge of Cameroon's political terrain or have different strategies to achieve their different goals. In your writings and inspirations, one sees no coherence, no consistence and no systematic. For you, it is neither fish or meat, so long as it is inpalatable to the SDF, you are contented to consume it to the fullest. This is very, very untypical of revolutionaries. The revolutionaries I know of in history beginning from Lenin to Martin Luther King Jr. all had premeditated ideologies and stuck to it through out the process.
In the SDF, this political ideology is grass-root politics as portrayed through the slogan power to the people.Meaning in the SDF, it is the grassroot that decides. They organise, scrutinise and vote for candidates during primaries. In doing that, they automatically conform in participating in elections under the foreseen circumstances. If the grassroot intended to transmit their wish to boycott elections to the leadership of the party on the pretext that the results are "stolen goods", they would have sent back the teams NEC deployed with a clear message of no elections! But on the contrary, thousands of militants participated, competition was fierce; and the majority decided on who they want to represent them in parliament and councils.That is democracy!

Rexon, SCNC activists may be defeatists but SDF militants as I know them are not. They are not intimidated by talks of "dictated results prearranged in hotel suits inEurope and US etc".Instead, they spend time finding solutions and methods to counteract electoral fraud at all levels. If they don't do that, Biya and your CPDM will declare 100% victory and the image or impression the international community would have would be that Biya's corrupt regime has far-reaching support nation-wide as the case of 1992 when SDF boycotted the legislative elections on that same pretext.

Also don't you find it weird to say Scottish parties ask their members to vote in elections organised by a "foreign country" and you actively participate in such a "treacherous act" but you want the SDF to restrain its militants from doing so. Apparently, your confusion has no end.

rexon

Feli,

You are the one who is confused and wants to run away from the truth. You ramble and cannot stand any debate. Can you answer the questions above?

Concerning the issues of scotland. They have devolution of powers, the count their results in an independent electoral commision. Whoever wins is declared winner by the independent electoral commision and those parties who stood for outright independence from the Union with Great are not fighting to control anything from Downing street in London, but for Holyrod. If they have a majority of seats in Scotland, then they can ask for a referendum to ascertain if the majority of their people want independence. So the elections are not controlled by a foreign country. The Scots control their own destiny.

Now concerning Hogbe Nlend- He reminded NJFN that he can never become the president of La Republique Francaise Du Cameroun and NJFN knows that.

PMUC-NJFN rented his house to the French Gambling company. As far as i understand, his coperation with PMUC suggests that he is encouraging our people to become gamblers. As a politician, that is not what he should stand for. Those are unethical business. If you dont see a fault from his actions, i see. I cannot deny that every human being have a fault but i must point that out to you people. On the political front, i can testify to you that people are very suspicious of him. NJFN is a father to us all, but like any child, we should have the audacity to tell him to stand clear of camerounese politics. He is one of us and he should go to the good books of Southern Cameroonian politics.

ON STOLEN GOODS- I think you dont want to agree with the truth. You brought in the subject of checks and balances in this forum. Then i reminded you that there cannot be no checks and balances in anything the SDF does. I gave a frank justification of why i think so. First, there is NO IEC and the elections cannot be considered free and fair. I reminded of the fact that even the SDF rigs elections because there are many circumstances in 1992 that there were more votes for the SDF alone than the number of registered voters in several pooling stations in Mutengene, Muea, Mezam, and several parts of the North West. This is outright fraud and the SDF cannot deny it. So spare us the talk of checks and balances. At least, for the moment.

Seconly, if you accept to go in for elections whose results has already been dictated, with NO Independent electoral commision, i can tell you that is fraud. Outright fraud and you are part of the conspiracy. Any results that comes out of it does not reflect in anyway the will of the people. Even if you are declared the winner. ELECAM, NEO are not Independent electoral commission. So spare us the fake talk about checks and balances. We are grown up people. We are not forcing you to do what we want, but spare us those fake talk.

Your dilemma with the SDF as pointed by Watesih and You is that you people dont want to betray your bamilikie supporters. I can assure you, if he takes his followers to any of our freedom fighting movements
(SCNC, AMBAZONIA, SCAPO, SCYL), he would not be betraying his Bamilikie brothers, but doing the right thing. Even if he betray his Bamilikie financiers for us, that would not be a bad thing. If he is doing the contrary, he is betraying us, and we would have no other option but to fight him. One other option is for the SDF to be split into two. One group sends candidates to La Republque and the other group does not and preaches Southern Cameroons independence outrighly. So to say, there would be NO SDF deputies from the Southern Cameroons mocking us in Camerounese parliament. Or, those from the Southern Cameroons can decide to withdraw from Camerounese parliament and instead sit in our own parliament in Buea. At least, we would forgive them for the moment, even though we know they were not elected by Universal suffrage since there was no IEC in La Republique when they were elected. That would be a fine thing. Anything short of any of these is lies telling. I would only consider it a continuation of your business to colour La Republique as a multi-party democracy.

You and i know that, your problem with you and people like me, Kiki, M Nje, MK The Southerner, etc is that we are trying to remove "CHOP" from your mouth. Good Luck with your NGO whose job is to colour La Republique as a multi-party democracy.

Thank you Brother.

Feli

Rexon,
I still see in your reply a lot of frustration and confusion. Confusion because the essence of what you say has been counteracted several times on this forum.
Never you think you shall lure me into discussing my person by making such statements "...your problem with you and people like me, Kiki, M Nje, MK The Southerner, etc is that we are trying to remove "CHOP" from your mouth...." Those of you who see politics as a money-making machinery always betray yourselves with such statements. I earn 4 times more than an average Cameroonian parliamentarian, so there is nothing I want to "chop" from them.
On the other hand, it is no secret that a large part of the SCNC has become a racketeering machine, the fundamentals of the struggle have been side-lined and the leadeship tussle unending. I now see why you are in dire need of Ni John Fru Ndi. But we are not going to let you have our Chairman.No.
Do your home-work. Copy the example of the SDF. Institute Internal rules and Regulations, implement strict discipline, prohibit the issuance of Affidavits by foreign structures, debate and publish your financial transactions, audit your accounts, hold regular consultations with the base, fund community,health and social projects, organise clean-up campaigns, worship with your Christians and moslem brothers etc. When you do all of these things or at least some, then you can come to challenge the SDF for a REAL debate.

M Nje

Mr Watesih,
It is a shame to see how you are trying to deflect the argument to Ni John Fru Ndi. When you are caught in gross dishonesty you turn the subject to him.

I have said here many times that either you are deliberately dishonest or you are blind when it comes to the SDF and its leadership.

Well, The Son`s posting on Tuesday, 01 May 2007 at 04:38 PM confirms my proposition that you are a dishonest person. You should be ashamed of that. In your desire to wore support, from Southern Cameroonians, for your SDF you have resorted into deception. It is a shame.

The Son asked you to reconcile your own statements. Where is your response?

mk the southerner

Friends listen to this and be my tomorrows witnesses.

"sdf condemns creation of councils as rigging ploy". Just wait and see with me,the parliamentarians will be called to Yaounde,and when they will return fatter than they went there, you and I will never hear any thing again about creation of council as a rigging ploy. Instate we will hear, sdf now ready for elections,knowing that some one have changed the rules.

Tell me if you are playing a game and you came to discover that the other party is always changing the rules, and that each time he changes the rules you always loose just to start back over and over again. Will you keep playing the very game with that party?. If you do then there is something you are gaining from playing that rule less game, that need more than the eyes to see.Those who are still playing this one Cameroon game have something they are gaining from it weather you in the sdf or cpdm the difference is just that one have four letters and the other three but they fall in the same group of dragons and vampires.
Believe me or not it is your problem,but i urge you see better.
Mk the southerner.
mkthesoutherner@yahoo.co.uk

mk the southerner

Mr Feli did read well that you are blocking food from our mouth? Yes it very very true because I know very well how well nourished i will have been if I were not stateless or better still if the frog's wouldn't have colonized us. You are very correct brother Myself Raxon and the rest have a reason to do what we are doing. But we are not against Ni John as a person as some of you think.

I read somebody saying that sdf was never formed for the Southern Cameroons problem. Let me tell you that it was the main aim but Professor Assonganyi said that if it goes direct that way the French frogs will never let it stand and that while moving it as a political party,the anglophone marginalization should be top of the agenda and this move was seconded by Mukong. Refer from Njfn
MK the Southerner

Fritzane Kiki HK

Veto,
You have nothing to contribute here so just keep quiet.You only know how to quote from individuals.Hear you;"to correct is good ;encouragement,better.That's Goeth.What do you mean by this?.Do you mean you want to correct your so-called chairman whose tyranny and hypocricy has led the party to an NGO in Bamenda?Mr Veto you claim to be a native speaker of English what is your dialect?I reserve my comments!Can you write your dialect in your home-village intonations and syllables?Please English is a borrowed language and if omittions are made here or wrong spell-check of some words don't think it's a crime.Talk about what we are focusing on than to divert issues that needs to be addressed and redressed.You are simply one of those scape-goats of the SDF tragic political delemma period

Rexon,
Thanks for that clarification.The basic information that I brooded over in your write-up above was that those SDF militants and fanatics simply paint La Republique as ,I quote; "....a continuation of their business to colour La Republique as a multi-party democracy" End of quote.Thats serves Feli right.

As for Watesih,Klemenceau,Akoson,Fon,
They fall under the preys of SDF demagogy.They are classified as those whose campaign against radicals and are exposing their aquaintance with their uncle NJFN.They are just unconsciously out to help those political heavy-weights to achieve their selfish goals.They are those who encourage the venerated political adage and sing-song of ; "power to the people".No degree of ambiguity or presumption of innocence will transcend our fellow brothers and sisters' mind that SDF stands for liberation.All the media outlets have declarecd the SDF as a party with no conventional approach to their cause.Those who are behind the idea of SDF as a party to reckon with are predominantly aquaintances and accomplices to the chairman and are susceptible to intolerance and greed.

My condemnation and intolerance is clear.I don't rub shoulders with the CPDM in the dirty politics of hand-to-mouth in Cameroon.Not me.I personally have nothing to loose or gain if your Chairman is successful in his dreaded battle with the CPDM.I earlier told you I am not in support or favor of any anything political but i am in support of good governance and a human right activist.I foster human right initiatives to booster and give credit to peace in our nation.I will be right back.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

vito

Fritzane,so you're contributing?Whatever!I was just saying your write-ups make sense in pidgin and that's no easy feat.What's wrong with that?You spoil it all trying to sound "bright" using big words you dont grasp ending up sounding stupid.Just stick to the basics;its all about passing ideas across to others.Its not easy getting what you're trying to tell me above;but iwas asking Feli to encourage you;beyond correcting you.Cheers

M Nje

Fritzane,
You asked my views on many issues. I will be back with a response

Fon

"I voted for the Scottish National Party (SNP) and for Tommy Sheridan's Solidarity Socialist Party. I voted for them because, they have made it clear that they are for the independence of Scotland."

Rexon,
May I know a little about the Scottish National Party; does SNP operates only in Scotland or covers all of Uk? I will come back to you when you respond.

In addition,how do you vote for two different parties in the same election? Don´t you also think that your dual nationality is also a major factor that is pushing you to cause confusion here?

mk the southerner

SCNC Activist TANTOH Simon Freed at Last

After 98 days of illegal detention at the Bamenda Central Prison under deplorable condition,, Mr. Tantoh Simon Nshukwi was on Friday 27th April 2007 freed from captivity.

The ruling of the Hearing on preliminary investigation of his case came up on the 27th April 2007 before the presiding Judge, Justice Angelina Atabong of the Bamenda High Court. Mr Tantoh Simon Nshukwi was discharged and acquitted. The 1st Assistant Proconsul for Mezam County, Mr. Sombe Simon who ordered arbitrary arrest the SCNC leaders and activists has so far refused to show up in court with impunity.

It should be recalled that on January 20th 2007 SCNC leaders and activists were arbitrary arrested,tortured and detained at the Bamenda Central Prison, during a Press Conference at the SCNC National Secretariat in Bamenda.

On the 14th March 2007, after 53 days of illegal detention SCNC Vice National Chairman ,Nfor Ngala Nfor and Nine SCNC Members were released on bail. Their matter was adjourned to 17th April 2007 and when this faithful day came the Hearing was re-adjourned to the 19th June.

Mr. Tantoh Simon Nshukwi having been discharged and acquitted is ample prove that the occupier of our land, LRC is guilty of the annexation, colonization and occupation of Southern Cameroons.

It further proves that SCNC leaders and activists were not arrested and detained, because they violated any law be it Domestic or International.

We shall not be intimidated nor deterred from our resolved to restore the statehood and sovereign independence of our God given land- Southern Cameroons.

See scncforsoutherncameroons.net

Fritzane Kiki HK

Mr Veto,
Who is Feli to correct my write-ups?By the way if you have any language barrier or problems with my words and sentences,I am ready to expanciate on them word-for-word.I write with a tone of discontentment and dissatisfaction,since I am not happy with what you guys pretend to call 'multi party democracy' in La Republique.Is there any true democracy in La Republique,where one party has an overwhelming majority in parliament of almost 70% of the seats.While the rest opposition parties are pondering with the rest?Please don't be in favor of a pressure group in the name of an opposition party and you claim to know their aims and objectives yet you don't know their fundamental problems therein.

You have never responded to my questions about why is your dictatorial chairman been neglected and relegated to the background.Do you think without fear of ethnic profiling,your chairman's fame,respect and glory is comparable to some years behind?Do you think your chairman will or can be asked to go and sit in Etoudi?The only alternative term I can use for your party chairman and his whole bunch of politicians is self-interested,arrogant,malevolent actors full of hypocritical ideologies only to inflict pain and grief to their fellow countrymen.They have failed so they should give way for new breeds with fresh and high level dynamic proposals that can effectively confront the regime in power and champion the cause of the Anglophones as a whole.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Watesih

M Nje,
You were just stripped naked there, that's why you want to hang yourself.You initiate an attack on us ,branding us blind,and dishonest for being Fru Ndi`s followers.Then when i show you worshipping Fru Ndi ,you say I`m deflecting the debate.You are one of those confused illusionists here without a sense of direction,and you keep fooling yourself that your arrogance will ruffle my feathers. Better continue to be estatic about Fru Ndi,than pretend to speak for the SCNC ,because you heard others doing so.M Nje
go though all my articles in the forum ,and show me where i have made this type of statement about Fru Ndi: "..I love this man NJFN to be honest,but i realy think there is something going wrong with him.I really want him to die a hero rather than a villian.Let him start thinking about what will go into history books( M Nje Friday ,09 Feb 2007).
1. Why would you like a man who is not fighting for the Southern Cameroons course to die a hero?
2. How can you love Fru Ndi in an honest way like this,but call others who do same as blind?
M Nje ,my question to you again is whether you are blind ,or dishonest?
AS to what Akoson asked me to answer,i think i did ,and he was satisfied with my response.If you did not have a grasp of it ,let me repeat again.Most SDF militants know the dynamics at work when it comes to Southern Cameroons,and believe that we can attack Biya from different directions.The SDF as a National party,and the SCNC as a freedom Movement.But the SDF is not to accept the scapegoatism that some are you are trying to play out.I repeat ,if your bones are too weak to initiate action,and keep hanging on the party`s name,the party is not going to teach a freedom movement how to seek autonomy.Nobody up to this moment has called me dishonest ,because my message has always been the same ,and put across clearly.I think the terms are simple enough for you to understand.

Rexon,
Its a good thing you don`t even know what you are doing.You say maybe you are doing the wrong thing when accused of trying to destroy the SDF.When you talked about Advisers,i had always thought they were Cameroonians ,but you tell us about Scots advising you about the Cameroonian situation they know little of.Since you are an eternal confunist,i would want you to learn that each freedom fighting situation has its peculiarities,and dynamics.The Scottish situation has nothing to do with the Southern Cameroons situation.Your dual nationality seems to be what has been pushing you on to destroy other people, because you know you will never share a country with them if things come to the worst.Rexon, i will continue to tell you that you lost the fight from the onset ,by erroneously hanging on to the idea that the Liberation of Southern Cameroons is embedded in the SDF.This shows how faulty your judgement of events are.

Prof. Kiki OP. Fritzane,
The fight is going to be long.The rhythm you visit the dictionary to pick up words,and throw invectives,will soon drive you into speedbreads.No amount of insults,arrogance is going to hand over the SDF to Asonganyi,and Muna your masters.Your
resorting to branding us as Fru Ndi`s nephews shows you have run out of ideas.You mean you are also Asonganyi`s nephew?
Prof.,hahaha,what Vito said above is true.
Do you know why you call people faggots,and all the other names? It is because of the difficulty you face in passing over your ideas.Your language,and style give people an idea about who you are,and the depth of your personality.Its normal to make errors time and again,but when you lie that you are a Professor,and can`t make one good sentence in English,then people start asking questions about you.Read this as a Professor,and tell us what it means: "Hahaha
you are making laughing out my lungs here.You rightly said that the SDF parliamentarians are more handclappers than resolution ,and lawmakers"( Fritzane, Dec 06 2006). You want to sound elitist for nothing
Everybody knows your level.

Ma Mary

Clearly, there is a philosophical gulf between SDF and the Southern Cam movt about the destiny of the Southern Cameroons people. Details about leaders and quarrels about organisational weakenesses and strengths are getting in the way of debating this divide. What is the best way for the Southern Cameroonians, to be ruled by la Republique and to TRY to change things within la Republique or to strike out, independent? Is it possible to discuss this fundamental disagreement?

SDF people argue that we are pushing towards the same goal using different methods. Southern Cameroonian activists contend that the SDF is squandering good talent on a futile exercise.

Watesih

Ma Mary,
My answer is short,to strike out.And the first thing is to get to the battle front,occupy it ,know the dynamics ,and weak points and take the bull by the horns.The SDF has been doing it.The SCNC should come in the other way.When you here the Palestinians Resistance has abducted somebody,we always here of all fanciful names.The Angels of Allah,The Satans of Mohammad.This is because diversity is good in everything.When the Anglophone leaders created the SCNC in the presence of the SDF,they had this in mind.They were not fools.They knew that since the SDF had been registered under the Laws of La Republique, we surely needed a more confrontational approach.I`m surprised today activists today are make ridiculous statements like our Liberation being embedded in the SDF.Nobody is going to stand on the way,or dare fight the SCNC,but Southern Cameroonians have rejected any confrontation between the SDF,and the SCNC.That is why they continue to vote for the SDF.This will continue until another group comes out clearly in public to fight for our rights.Any utopic confrontational approach will not pay off ,and will only delay our goals.Why is it that it is the movement our leaders created after the SDF to take things to a new dimension that has instead reduced itself to internal bickering? As long as diversified approaches are succeeding in other places in the world ,and can also succeed with us,we will continue to support the SDF,until the SCNC comes clear of the approach it wants to take.Southern Cameroonians cannot afford to stay in the cold waiting for people who apparently have no sense of direction.We have prescribed all secret methods to the SCNC,and wants them to keep everybody abreast in a discreet way,but they will come and start exchanging e-mails ,and convening meetings on-line.If Ben Laden had been such a fool,he would have been apprehended long ago.Ma Mary ,i don`t doubt your ability to coax over people to a noble course,but i don`t also stand scapegoatism.The time has passed.

Watesih

Errata
Line 4,and 5 should read hear.

Fritzane Kiki HK

Watesih,
Tell us what your master holds for us in his 17th year in power as chairman.You should stop rambling with my grammar and words.If you want me to be spell-checking I will but the ideas are clearly passed through.I write in many forums and newspapers, so you will not be the one to tell me how to express my grievance against party politics in La Republique.

I don't need to over-emphasis my level of education to your SDF noisemakers who will ever remain adamant and vehemently refuse to learn from others.Is it a strange thing for you to find a professor amongst your midst?I worked for it.Don't sit in quarters and buy degrees.Exercise it here.I don't want to go into unnecessary arguments with you.What makes my write-ups drive you and other SDF fanatics crazy?

What is wrong with this statement?

"SDF parliamentarians are more handclappers than resolution ,and lawmakers"
Am I telling a lie in my statement?Are they not handclappers and flip-floppers in the parliament?Read the news headlines "SDF Condemns Creation Of Councils As Rigging Ploy" What did they do in the parliament than to watch things go with the CPDM flow.Of what importance are these stereotypical parliamentarians are in their respcetive jurisdictions and constituencies?What changes have they brought in parliament the rather than listen to their Bookseller chairman.What level of education is your chairman in Ntarikom? Birds of thesame feathers flock together really.


You must have worked with the GCE board to correct English language scripts.What is your dialect?Can you write your village dialect?You claim to be a native speaker of English in your small village.From your name I guess you come maybe from Ntarikom with your chairman or Bamendankwe,if not Jinikijim.Tell us can you be proud to write your dialect?Where are you from?


Ma Mary,
Thanks for that insight.These SDF arrogant fanatics are not ready to stop this their foolish political partisanship since they have aquaintances with their chairman.I am one of those critics and activists in the Southern Cameroon who believe that "..... the SDF is squandering good talent on a futile exercise".

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

M Nje

Watesih,

Provide the source of the following cotation:

"..I love this man NJFN to be honest,but i realy think there is something going wrong with him.I really want him to die a hero rather than a villian.Let him start thinking about what will go into history books( M Nje Friday ,09 Feb 2007).

Show the readers of this forum where you got it.

M Nje

M Nje ,
If the message of the SDF to Southern Cameroonians is that of deception,then you should use the SCNC,and send a message of truth.What Southern Cameroonians want is action.Not vacillitators like you,who praise Fru Ndi today,and the next day forget what they said,and call him a devil.This is your view about Fru Ndi: " Thank you very much Chief Ayamba for that assessment. I made a similar remark a few days ago.I am inded delighted to see you reaffirm it. Mr Ni John Fru Ndi is a very courageous man. A brand of Politician who will not sell out his followers for personal"( Dec 22 2006).How does this your statement present you to the world in the light of the one above; " That this is one group of followers of an individual, Ni John Fru Ndi,who are either blind or dishonest" . Are you also blind or dishonest?
Watesih Wednesday, 02 May 2007 at 04:32 AM


Watesih,

Yo think you can take my statements out of contexts. I said what I said and I stand by it. The full content of my comments is below for anyone to see. I was reacting to a statement that Chief Ayamba made that. The heading of the article was:

“Fru Ndi Can't Be President Of A Foreign State-SCNC Chairman.”

I made the comments below:

Thank you very much Chief Ayamba for that assessment. I made a similar remark a few days ago. I am indeed delighted to see you reaffirm it. Mr. Ni John Fru Ndi is a very courageous man. A brand of politician who will not “sell out” his followers for personal gain.
But he is fighting the wrong fight. Someone needs to bring him to the reality of our times. He has no chance whatsoever of being the president of a country; whose currency does not carry a language that he speaks -English. That alone tells it all.
Someone should help him face reality.

Source: http://www.postnewsline.com/2006/12/fru_ndi_cant_be.html


It is there for anyone to see. Before Chief Ayamba made that statement I had made a similar statement that your idol, Ni John Fru Ndi, cannot be president of La Republic, because, he is not a citizen of that country.

I have told you here many times and I will repeat again. I have never been a militant of any political party; neither your SDF nor C.P.D.M nor any other. I am not a blind follower of any individual in my life.

I have told you also that the fact that I said Ni Jonh Fru Ndi is a courageous man does not make me a member the SDF; neither does it mean I should blindly follow and support him.

Just as I have said here that Azong Wara was a courageous guy who stood up to Mbella Mbapia. His action together with that of his fellow teachers lead to the creation of the G.C.E. board. That does not mean I should blindly adore all he stands for; neither does it make me a member of the teachers union.. I give credit where it is due. I also will not hesitate to express an unfavorable opinion to those I credited, if I find their subsequent actions, words, or behavior unacceptable.


You have been caught in gross dishonesty. Now you want to deviate attention to you god Ni John. Shame to you. You cannot deflect attention.

Don`t forget to provide a source to the citation you used above:

"..I love this man NJFN to be honest,but i realy think there is something going wrong with him.I really want him to die a hero rather than a villian.Let him start thinking about what will go into history books( M Nje Friday ,09 Feb 2007).

Let these readers see where you got it.


Klemenceau-Shalom

Kiki

To be candid, you are so insulting. The word you use against the SDF militants and her chairman really show the level of the hatred you have for the party. And your words don't reflect what you claim to be. We don't need someone to tell us that Ma Mary is someone to be respected. The way she writes and her choice of words even when criticizing makes any level headed person to give her that respect.
Kiki, I know we all sometimes write using insulting language but yours is exaggerating. You either be the professor you are or a mean and arrogant person. I say this with love.

Shalom

Klemenceau

Fritzane Kiki HK

Klemenceau ,
Go through my write-ups from the word go,and see if I have ever gone this far.Your friend Watesih claim to have stayed with Queen Elizabeth and knows the Queen's language even more than Shakespear.Let him continue correcting and cross-examining people's scripts here rather than concentrating on the topic in question.I want him to write in his dialect select,copy and paste it here let's see if it is similar to English,French or Spanish.

I have always opted for precision and concision in my write-ups which are the main norms of a journalist job,because I know it's for journalism consumers who constantly browse.Yet our English Language teacher is only there spell-checking errors.Forumnites will generally agree with me that I never indulge in personal and sensitive issues here but your friend Watesih is fond of doing daily research into my private life.He might want to know my wife and children too.I don't transcends cultural nor ethnic bounds here.The forum being a multi-cultural and cross-cultural one, I have always tried to remain committed with my subject matter and stayed aloof when it comes to topics of this nature.

My last word goes to your chairman,good luck to him in the upcoming twin elections and wish him success.Hope he would conquer the CPDM administrative rigging machinery already in place for an overwhelming majority,a troubling reality.I don't interfere into your political issues.I am just a critic and keen observer so don't mistake me for an aspiring candidate or a political hopeful.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

M Nje

The Son,
I am not a member of the S.D.F. I cannot provide any opinion to your comment on Tuesday, 01 May 2007 at 05:17 PM.


Fritzane Kiki,

Here is my response to your comment on Wednesday, 02 May 2007 at 02:44 AM.

I share the view that the legal right of the people of Southern Cameroons to Self Determination was compromised in 1961.
As a result, I believe that this generation has the moral obligation to correct this injustice. The right to self determination is a human right that is recognized my international law. It will be unfair to our children and grandchildren if we pass on this problem to them. We cannot allow them to experience what we have experience. We cannot allow them to be treated as second class citizen in a third world country. I will give you an example. The people of the United State enjoy the freedom they have today because their ancestor stood up to the domination from UK. At some point in the history of a nation, one generation has to endure some pains and suffering for future generations. I think we have a calling to endure such pains and suffering for our future generations.

The solution to our problem is full independent for Southern Cameroons, in my view. Some have made some statements here that we can achieve independent by engaging in politics in La Republique. Full independent cannot be achieve through La Republiques` parliament without Biya`s approval contrary to what some have said here. If you take a look at the constitution of La Republique, you will find it there. So I find it disingenuous for any political party or individual to promise Southern Cameroonians independent through La Republiques parliament should they vote for them. It is greed at its best. We need a final and lasting solution to our problem. That lasting solution is full independent and not peanuts from parliament or councils, neither is it ministeral positions or any other government appointments in La Republique. These are all temporal positions which, for the most part, do not benefit the ordinary Southern Cameroonian.

I also recognized that there are those who are willing to accept these peanuts and have a feel good effect. They don`t care if the next generation of Southern Cameroonian will have to experience the same treatment as we do now. I respect their right to their decision. What I don`t respect is for them to spread falsehood to our parents, grandparents, and many others in their desire to get their peanuts. Such falsehood comes in the form of promises for things that they cannot deliver.

The are many approaches to attain our independent. One of them is through a popular revolution.

That is preview of where I stand.

rexon

M Nje,

Excellent Commentaries. Those who preach independence through La Republiques politics know like you and myself that what they are saying is different. Their job is to colour La Republique as a multi-party democracy.

Ma Mary Wrote:

"SDF people argue that we are pushing towards the same goal using different methods."

Maybe Ma Mary, you are saying so for the SDF people. They have never said we are pushing towards thesame goal with different methods. They say they want to liberate La Republique and provide it with democracy of checks and balances and we say, they should do that in La Republique and not in the Southern Cameroons. They have all agreed that our objectives are contracdictory and not complementary and they have even blamed our leaders who thought so for being fools. Since our inspirational leaders of Mukong, Feko, Luma, Anyangwe, Ofege, etc who never dined with La Republique and suggested we should be clapping hands in their parliament were fools, since they abandoned the SDF, we should all tell our people to abandon the SDF also.

Watesih and Fon,

I know why i am interested in learning from the Scots and i know what to take from their democracy and what to abandon. So dont ramble with my intellect. They are also openly saying they are learning from the Irish, Nowegians, Icelandic, South Africans, etc. At least, they are open to learning from anybody who have a similar fight, but they are also aware that not all democracies are thesame. At least, i have learnt from them that, they fought for a change in their peoples mentality, they created political parties like SCAPO, Ambazonian Liberated movement that never sent handclappers to the UK parliament but fought for devolution of powers, After fighting for devolution of powers in the UK, their own parliament and ministries was created. these political parties are now hoping to gain a majority seat in the Scottish parliament and call for a referendum for the Scots to ascertain their independence. No one can take that freedom from us as it is a human right.

Fon,

How do i vote for two major political parties. I voted for SNP for first minister and the other for council and parliamentary positions. Both of them had thesame philosophy, just that one is a socialist and the other is not. I voted the SNP because they are quite sure of winning and i wanted the scottish independence as fast as i can. then i voted for the solidarity because they are socialist and i want them to gain my vote for council and parliamentary positions. If you need more infos about SNP, you can google them. One thing you would need to learn is that they are not shy to talk about their objective: Complete independence for Scotland. Why should Southern Cameroonians be Shy???????????????

Watesih

Prof. Kiki Op. Fritzane,
I have told you that no amount of insults will change you from the illerate school master that you are.Continue unteaching Chinese in North China.Professor my foot!It is your mastery of language that passes over ideas,not the shame you are writing here.You say you don`t transcend ethnic bounds here ,but you accuse others of being Fru Ndi`s nephews.Professor this means that we are supporting him because we are of the same ethnicity.You keep going in and out of politics.Why are you suffering like this.Even if you were a politician ,what would you say,and do? Since you declared that you were not a politician when you supported Muna,you have continuously talked politics.Why are you afraid to stand the heat in political debate,and keep making a fool of yourself.

M Nje,
It is one thing to say somebody is courageous,and another to wish him to die a hero.Why would you be so blind to wish Fru Ndi to die a hero? Get it clear, the SDF is not inviting the SCNC to join the government but calling on this movement to show the stuff it is made of without cosying up to the SDF.The more you guys keep giving the impression that the SDF is having peanuts from La Republique,and therefore a reason for you to hide your weak bones,the more we expose this weakness to Southern Cameroonians.The SDF ,as a political party is fighting its course,the SCNC as a freedom movement should show us the stuff it is made of.Anything less than this is refusal,and inability to act. M Nje ,as you said some time ago,you don`t know why the SDF was created,but you surely know why the SCNC was created,so pay much attention to what to know.Revolution is a good thing,but it is can`t be implemented on newspaper columns.
M Nje, i will repeat what i said to Akoson,because a blind illusionist surely needs more time to get it.That the SDF will not tolerate the weak bones of SCNC armchair critics.The SDF will never help if they want to lurk themselves in a confrontation with her.The message is clear.

Fon

Rexon,
You keep esposing your ignorance on basic issues. I simply wanted to point out to you that it is not possible to compare two issues that have nothing in common.
What is the similarity between the SDF and the SNP? The SNP is a regional party and has nothing to lose if they come out openly to declear that they are for inpendence of Scotland. In addition the Uk constition permits the issue of Scottish independence to be discussed in parliament. On the other hand,the SDF is a national party and risks losing a lot of support from their Francophone sympathizers if they start preaching secession.
Looking at the constitution of Cameroon and that of the Uk, can one compare Southern Cameroons with Scotland? The Cameroon constitution considers anything leading to secession a felony.
If you think that the solution for independence is for the SDF to fight for devolution of powers; can´t you and other noise makers rally behind SCAPO to take over thís responsibility?
You must be very confused because you can´t be expecting the SDF to fight for devolution of powers and at the same time asking the SDF to be disolved or boycott elections. This shows how you don´t have any strategy. To fight for devolution of powers, SCAPO or Ambazonian who are for secession, must first register as political parties in Cameroon, Campaign and win seats in Southern Cameroons and then move to the assembly to fight for devolution of powers.
To sum up, I will like you to outline SCNC´s strategy to realise her objective, or is your only strategy is to have the SDF dissolved?

Fritzane Kiki HK

Mr Nje,
Thanks for that enumeration.I now know where you belong to.I was first confused in your opinion.Please don't cross-carpet if you do then you will join the likes of backlegged,self-interested victims of Southern Cameroonians already with La republique du Cameroun politcal sphere,preparing for their nemenis in the nearest future.Those lots under the banner of the SDF will finally leave the politcal scene after the twin elections come July.We shall not disown them, we shall forgive them and welcome them back home with their baggagges and luggagges to their real homes in the Southern Cameroon,after their unsuccessful adventure with their Francophone counterparts.

Watesih,
I have been telling you that I am not a politician and I have never supported a political party.If I say you are the nephew of Fru doesn't mean you belong to the family.Metaphorically speaking you are a die-hearted and staunch sympatizer.You claim to know English but you can't differentiate between a formal and informal sentence.

I support ideologies and I stand for opinions that will conscientise our people and re-awaken them from the SDF slumber.My level of educability permits me to provide ideas that can break bounds.As a perceptive observer, I hope I can help many including you realise you are going astray while blindly supporting a pressure group without any strong opinion instead they counter-attack their own brothers of the Southern Cameroon cause.

At present the SDF supporters are like in the middle;they tend to wait wait for the oucome of the the SCNC struggle and when they succeeds then they will then leave their French political scene,while they remain hanging with their Francophone friends.Please decide now where you belong before it's too late.Don't be in an esctacy of fumbling.

Please sir,teacher Watesih forgive my poor English.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

rexon

Fon Wrote,

"To fight for devolution of powers, SCAPO or Ambazonian who are for secession, must first register as political parties in Cameroon, Campaign and win seats in Southern Cameroons and then move to the assembly to fight for devolution of powers"

That said, i think the SDF needs to be WIPED-OUT with immediate effect from the Southern Cameroons. You guys have shown beyond reasonable doubt that your job is to colour la republique as a multiparty democracy. You are now asking SCAPO, etc to register under the Laws of La Republique, Register in their fake elections, go to their parliament and do what you described above. Shame on you. What laws in La Republique permits them to fight for their independence or devolution of powers from within La Republiques politics. Are you not the guys who are saying here that Mukong and Co were stupid to think so? Was it not thesame you who said here that the SDF is fighting for the independence of the Southern Cameroons at night? How soon have you forgotten your SCNC at Night and SDF at daylight hypothesis? Now you are asking SCAPO to register with la REPUBLIQUE and fight for seats in La Republiques parliament, what an ignorance. Do you think the SCAPO is a business entity or a NTARIKOM NGO like the SDF?

You have just comfirmed what i have been saying in this forum. Nobody, i mean nobody would help your uncles to colour La Republiques democracy.

You seem to be the most confused person in the entire universe. How soon you have left your theory of SDF in daylight and SCNC at night?

Where have i said there is any simmilarity between the SDF and the SNP? I have mainly said while one party is fighting to liberate its people (SNP, SCAPO), the SDF is fighting to auction its people to La Republique. That is why i have defended the contradictory and not complementary ideologies of the SCNC and the SDF in this forum when you guys tried to preach it. It is the SCNC, SCAPO, Ambazonia liberation movement that is similar to the SNP and not the SDF. The SDF is instead fighting to auction us to La Republique in return for bribes in the form of parliamentary grants. That is why we are focused on destroying them.


Which country are you referring to? Look through the SNP website and you would see that whereever SCOTLAND is mentioned, it is defined as our or my country. So my country is the Southern Cameroons and not La Republique.

Who is seceeding? The Southern Cameroons is not seceeding. Maybe it is the SDF that is seceeding from the Southern Cameroons to La Republique.

Fritzane Kiki HK


Watesih,Fon,Feli,Klemenceau,
Please can you brief me on this comment by one of the Founding Fathers Hon. Andrew Akonteh, former MP for Bafut of your party?Can you explain the reason for his resignation?And can you contradict his claim for resignation?He has this to say;

I quote:
".....greed has replaced self-sacrifice, love, and volunteerism in the SDF party.......Before I decided to quit partisan politics I sent a motion to the National Executive Committee, NEC, asking them to set a commission of enquiry to all the allegations published against me in a local tabloid whose sponsor was a colleague, an MP of the same party. Until date, I have not received the reply of my letter to NEC. The said MP decided to blackmail others and me for no wrong. I have suffered and slaved for the party and that was the pay.......Opposition leaders can write as many times as possible. But one thing remains very clear. Each of them has his very personal ambitions. None of them is a nationalist from the bottom of the heart. None is selfless."

These are no longer words from my mouth.Don't crucify me here.This is from your party member.Some of them retired,some dismissed,and others resigned of which Hon Akonteh is one of them.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

knganjo

Fritzane Kiki,
You are indeed a confused professor.You do not seem to have a critical mind at all.Do you know what criticism means? As a teacher of English or whatever in Hongkong, please, take up your dictionary and look at the meaning of the word criticism.If my memory is not deceiving me Professors like you are supposed to be people with open and objective minds. They can make sound jugements void of bias, insults and subjectivity.They are people who can predict or make reasonable forcasts.They are able to distinguish between between good and evil.They can cricicise, analyze, evaluate and even designs policies and strategies for a political movement.They can excercise caution, restrain, convince people with ideas and demonstrate respect for themselves as well as for others.That having said,What has been the attitude of our so-called professor of Hongkong?
Professor Kiki is openly biased,subjective,uninformed,and does not demonstrate knowlegde and mastery of the political scene of Cameroon.He is naive and lack political forseight.He does not know that the leaders of the SCNC have commercialised the struggle for the liberation of the Southern Cameroons.He claims that he is apolitical in his write ups but each time he sits in front of his key board he only thinks about the sdf and Fru Ndi.He does not do politics but he supports illegitimacy by openly writing and backing the criminal activities of a political fugitive call Ben Muna. He does not do politics but he supports the wrongs and unfounded allegations against the Chairman by a dismissed Professor.He sees nothing wrong with the SCNC but sees everything wrong with the sdf.What a professor? He respects himself but lacks respect even for our political leaders.He describes Fru Ndi as a bookseller because he is not a professor but wants Fru Ndi and the sdf to lead the struggle for the liberation of the Southern Cameroons.He does not show respect for Fru Ndi by openly insulting and chastising such an important and charismatic leader on the forum but wants him to join him and Rexon to liberate the Southern Cameroons.He has never criticised the failed and gold digging leadership of the SCNC but claims the sdf is the the most corrupt.What a professor? He does not know that accademics and high sounding titles do not govern a nation but leadership and charisma which is inborn. Is there something wrong with the professors and doctors of the Southern Cameroons who contribute on the forum? Like Argbombai like Kiki. Sit up doctors.

Fon

Rexon,
You are the one who is most confused.It is good that you have asked the following question which I now quote "What laws in La Republique permits them to fight for their independence or devolution of powers from within La Republiques politics."
This question shows that you can´t compare the situation in the UK/Scotland with that in Cameroon/Southern Cameroon. The issue of devolution of powers came from you as you borrowed from Scotland. I wanted to point out to you that, the same can´t work in Cameroon because the laws are not the same. To stregthen mypoint, I said if you think the SDF has failed because they have not avocated for devolution of powers, SCAPO should take that responsibility.

"Was it not thesame you who said here that the SDF is fighting for the independence of the Southern Cameroons at night?"
I have never said such a thing as quoted.I have always said that the SDF considers the marginalisation of Anglophones as a canker worm that must be addressed as soon as she gets to power. To fight for the independence of Southern Cmeroon has never been an objective of the SDF. The SDF doesn´t hold that the solution to Anglophone marginalization is Southern Cameroons independence

Mr. Rexon, let be serious. i wish to put this question to you again because I consider it crucial: What is your present strategy to realise your goal, the inpendence of Southern Cameroons? Do you think fighting the SDF is a solution? Can you draw a line between the SDF sympathizers and SCNC sympathizers. Do you know that any stone directed at an SDF sympathizer in Southern Cameroon has equal chances to hit an SCNC sympathizer?

I will ignore you for ever if you don´t tell us your strategy to realise Southern Cameroon Independence; fighting the SDF is certainly a wrong one because even if you succeed to blackmail the SDF, you will still be thousands of kilometers from the goal.

Fon

knganjo,
I have rated Prof. Kiki´s level from his ideas/writing sytle, consider it too low and a waste of time to get into any debate with him.I don´t know who told him that Hon. Andrew Akonteh was founding father of the SDF.
Sometimes, it pays off to ignore some of these nonentities. They have failed to see Muna take over the SDF and now they want to hide under the SCNC to blackmail the SDF.

rexon

Fon,

Stop lying to yourself pretending to be lying to Southern Cameroons. The issue of devolution of powers was brought to this forum by Feli. When he reminded him what devolution of powers mean, he ran away and has never used it again. Same as this whole debate has centered on checks and balances. And when i reminded you people that all what you have got and all what you are hoping to get from Mr Biya is stolen goods and does not reflect the checks and balances, you guys try to twist it again. Tommorow, you will say we brought in the issue of financial transparency, No Sir.

Your questions:

What is your present strategy to realise your goal, the inpendence of Southern Cameroons?

Now, i cannot talk about the SCNC because i am not the SCNC. I am Rexon and i can only speak about my own strategy. If you want to read more about the SCNC strategy and that of the SCYL, then do go through their website sir.

Do you think fighting the SDF is a solution?

My own strategy is to to fight for the destruction of the SDF while preaching the need for Southern Cameroons to remain patriotic to their nation the Southern Cameroons. This is because, i see the SDF focus on politics with La Republique as a plot to auction us to la Republique and France and delay our independence. So i am focused on informing our people why they need to avoid identifying themselves with the SDF. To be honest, i would prefer the CPDM to control all the seats in the Southern Cameroons than the SDF. Many contextual issues account for this wish. Sorry, you must have heard enough of the reasons why i dont want this present SDF existant. It is an NGO financed by La Republique to colour its mundane democracy.

Can you draw a line between the SDF sympathizers and SCNC sympathizers. Do you know that any stone directed at an SDF sympathizer in Southern Cameroon has equal chances to hit an SCNC sympathizer?

Yes, the SCNC sympatiser would have himself/herself to be blamed if a stone directed at an SDF sympatiser ended up hitting him/her. How did he/she found himself/herself FUMBLING in La Republiques politics? That is double standards that we cannot tolerate. So spare us the talk of a stone hitting SCNC sympatisers at SDF ramblings.

We have all agreed that the ideologies of these two organisations are contradictory and not complementary. So anyone fumbling around the two is just helping the SDF in its NGO whose job is to colour Mr Biya's democracry.

Thank you my Brother.

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