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Thursday, 24 May 2007

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rexon

The director is just joking. He must have brought the media into this in a bid to sell a positive image of himself. If he really wants to fight corruption, he should start by dismissing himself and all unscrupulous citizens of La Republique who have got jobs in Sonara through unscrupulous means.

MBSA

This General Manager from the francophone has been stealing since the day he was appointed why has he not been fired, this corrupt government has to police itself before going after the little guys. I'm very sorry for my homeland - Cameroon, there is no accountibility especially from the top, people work hard grossly under paid and the (do little) aka General Managers steal and makes all the money. USA

MBSA

This General Manager from the francophone has been stealing since the day he was appointed why has he not been fired, this corrupt government has to police itself before going after the little guys. I'm very sorry for my homeland - Cameroon, there is no accountibility especially from the top, people work hard grossly under paid and the (do little) aka General Managers steal and makes all the money. USA

Che Sunday

Its the petit thieves who are getting caught and fired. The grand patron is ELF and assisted by Paul and his Ewondo compatriots. Oil prices are hitting an all time high, but Cameroon is getting nothing from it. Why, because ELF got Paul to mortgage our oil several years into the future. Efl is still uplifting crude oil from Cameroon at give away prices. When this issue came up, Musonge as well as some well placed individuals were appraised. Like the reverend father said in his sermon, we are spoiled by the fact that one can always have his fill to eat and drink. After which, nothing becomes significant.No one did anything. Lets get the bigger thieves, then the small ones can be converted back into honest citizens. EFL MUST GO!

Emmanuel

Dear all,
I will agree with all the contributors above that this is not what we mean by fighting corruption. Before we fight corruption we must try to uphold the law so that peoples' rights are not violated. Why should somebody be punished without an opportunity in duly constituted court of law to defend him/herself. This is a joke and unfortunately Cameroonians whose mentality has been hammered back into about 50 years of ignorance and its physical and material development exploited into the stone age by the regime would see this as the fight against corruption. I would have expected this reporter of The Post himself to question why these workers were not taken to court. By being accused of wrong doing in the company haven't they also broken some laws of the country? Or are they afraid of something? We all want to fight corruption but only the courts are competent enough to determine once and for all that someone is guilty or not. It does not matter how overwhelming anybody thinks the other is guilty. In an open court the accused will be defended and in the course of that more will be revealed. For example in cross examination a lawyer might make a defendant declare that she decided that bill inflation should be done because it had been a normal practice and that is why she did not think it was a cause for concern. On promise of a lesser sentence she will accept to disclose anything she knows about other similar or related criminal activities in that company. Now that the system has accepted that firing an accused is the right thing to do we can see that this hasty firing is more a cover up that a fight against corruption. If our politicians were genuine too they would have taken up such issues, educate the public on such matters, get a defence lawyer for these accused persons - not to exonerate them but to use their inside knowledge and get other culprits. That is crime fighting. These people are just scape goats with the real and more dangerous criminals still at large enjoying the protection of the system.
Fon

Emmanuel

Dear all,
I will agree with all the contributors above that this is not what we mean by fighting corruption. Before we fight corruption we must try to uphold the law so that peoples' rights are not violated. Why should somebody be punished without an opportunity in duly constituted court of law to defend him/herself. This is a joke and unfortunately Cameroonians whose mentality has been hammered back into about 50 years of ignorance and its physical and material development exploited into the stone age by the regime would see this as the fight against corruption. I would have expected this reporter of The Post himself to question why these workers were not taken to court. By being accused of wrong doing in the company haven't they also broken some laws of the country? Or are they afraid of something? We all want to fight corruption but only the courts are competent enough to determine once and for all that someone is guilty or not. It does not matter how overwhelming anybody thinks the other is guilty. In an open court the accused will be defended and in the course of that more will be revealed. For example in cross examination a lawyer might make a defendant declare that she decided that bill inflation should be done because it had been a normal practice and that is why she did not think it was a cause for concern. On promise of a lesser sentence she will accept to disclose anything she knows about other similar or related criminal activities in that company. Now that the system has accepted that firing an accused is the right thing to do we can see that this hasty firing is more a cover up that a fight against corruption. If our politicians were genuine too they would have taken up such issues, educate the public on such matters, get a defence lawyer for these accused persons - not to exonerate them but to use their inside knowledge and get other culprits. That is crime fighting. These people are just scape goats with the real and more dangerous criminals still at large enjoying the protection of the system.
Fon

Ted

Emmanuel,
I must say you've rationally highlighted what ought to be a good system to check corruption and that's how it works in a transparent world. But what we have here in Cameroon is a nation that has been turned into a private entity. Cameroon's major problem now is not Biya himself but the Biya thing. He has for the past 24 years sowed an urgly seed that has germinated and has ramified the entire nation. Just imagine the 24 year old youths of Cameroon today, i mean these are the children that were born in the year of our "lord" Biya, they've never known any transparent methods of doing things, all they've been taught are corrupt practices. They were born in corruption, they've been living in it and by it and most of them are already married and have started multiplying the urgly seed and the process continues. It's not less than Bin Laden's al qaeda network where it's not Bin Laden himself planing terrorist operations around the globe but his offsprings operating around. That's the nature of Cameroon we have today. What corrupt Cameroonians are doing now is teaching their master Biya the revised form of corrupttion and he seems to be assimilating very well and that's the main reason he is able to maintain grip on power.

mk the southerner

Can some one help me? are they talking of billions here or just hundreds. Or my God people don't know how to hunt again. A hunter who is free himself will not allow the elephant for an ant. It's just a pity.

But when you put a cat to guard your fish what do you expect. When you surrender your house to a tenant what you expect.
If we are contented with are slavery like Eyellow and Ricardo, if only they are Southern Cameroonians, then we should not complain.

But i know there is more to this arrest believe me we will hear something more.

I berg on all Southern Cameroonians to see better. And don't you compare the Southern Cameroons your country to Political party of La republic du Cameroun.

MK

Fritzane Kiki HK

Since its creation in the 80's, SONARA has totally been controlled by the French/Francophones and the key positions usually been occupied by unscrupulous Francophonie individuals.I once had a holidays job there one summer in the 90's,so I can imagine what mafia is going on there.This amount of money is just a tip of the iceberg.The real sums of money tranfered to French banks without any government intervention or interferance, will be a disturbing reality to our brethren and comrades of the Anglophone side of things,whose natural resources are exploited at their detriment.

Order usually comes from Yaounde, to disburse money for unknown individual projects.If we closely scrutinise the careers and term of office of the managers of the company,all of them fall short of proper and stricter accountability in their financial dealings; full of fraud and deceit.Yet those petty scape-goats, will always be exposed to all media outlets by this selfish managers, who want to sell a good reputation and image, to the world that he is a dogooder or Mr Right in the fight against corruption.

Most of these managers are arguably the least experience,but since presidential decrees placed them there,it is only presidential decrees that can dismiss them there.They have family proteges and all have some camaraderie links with Mvomeka.They have the bread and the knife eventhough their boiterous reputations, cast doubts on their capabilities at the helm of power.If you know the amount of barrels of oil leaving SONARA, per day to foreign countries,then you will understand why these lots are economically dangerous and disadvantageous to the country as a whole.They are there simply for self-aggrandissement and self-interest.A more sophisticated problem to resolve.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Tombele

I have been reading the comments here for a while now. I have spoken at some African association meetings and the problem of why Africa is under developed comes up all the time. I often ask this question at all of them. Why are some African countries so poor or under developed with huge amounts of natural resources in one word only???? The answer is NEGOTIATION. If you have been in the West, bought a house, have a mortgage, you know what I mean. I would like critics of Cameroon at home or abroad to come up with facts about what negotiations we have with France or any other countries. If our resources are being swindled because some red wine drinking bufoon negotiated in bad faith or through corruption, lets make a case of it. I know some pundits here don't believe that our problems can be solved through the international community. I believe that a clear case of this will give ground for a regime change with most reasonable in the world being aware of this injustice. So my homework to West Cameroonians, Cameroonians, SDF, CPDM, SCNC intellectuals, bankers, accountants, ex-ministers, diplomats and especially you PhDs out there with an economic background please come out write a book, a paper or some sort proof. This will show most people the way to proceed.I think Gbagbo in Ivory Coast and I believe Rwanda have started lets pile on the evidence.

Fritzane Kiki HK

Tomblele,
The division of opinion amongst the political parties and that beween the Southern Cameroons and the ruling government,might hinder any form of concensus.Since all have political ambitions rather than a general solution to the problem.This is the sad duty of politics in establishing justice in a sinful world.There is no public interest in anything other or nobler than a massed accumulation of private interests from these political figures.They tend to be acting single-handedly in their views to the political uncertainties searching for the solution to the problems by themselves apart.

Those appointed at the head of managerial duties will therefore take advantage of this lack of unaccountability and proper check-and-balances, to do whatever he/she pleases.They therefore create their own by-laws within their ministeries,jurisdictions,companies and parastatal companies,at the detriment of the innocent citizens.Most importantly the reason for the widespread corruption amongst sympathizers of this or that party.That's why every political good carried to the extreme must be productive of evil.It will be difficult to say this disparities and discrepanicies can be amended in the nearest future.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

rexon

Tombele,

There is something called the "political will". It broadly refers to the willingness of those in power and its entire citizens to effect changes in the system. The problem we have in Africa is the system and it is our own individual actions that can change that system and its political will. We all cry loud when things are moving wrong. While we have the right to do so, it is our responsibility to scrutinise our own individual actions, philosophies, etc that has been promoting the failures in Africa.

I have had the chance to debate with a couple of people (most of them bankers and academics) who were involved in attempting to change the system in their respective countries. They were primarily from Ireland, Zambia, Kenya, Nigeria. What we concluded was that, the Irish had a system and people that were willing to embrace change and that is why things worked out for them. But on the other hand, the African nations never had that system and people that are "TRULY" willing to embrace change. There might be a few people willing to embrace change, but the majority would never listen to them. We fend for ourselves and if you want to say or do the right thing, people will turn against you and u will quickly realise that you are always at odds with everybody. Then you would either find it difficult to get a proper job apart from teaching and criticising from the classroom and might have to die frustrated or be killed. It doesnt matter if you are working in a multinational corporation like the world bank or the government. They are all partners in crime as far as managing Africa is concerned.


Kiki,

I like your analysis of the Sonara situation above. Keep it up.

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