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Friday, 04 May 2007

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rexon

Well, we have read and heard enough about this transparency stuff, checks and balances, etc. Mr Biya's long years in power was a hypothesis in the 90's, his Beti clique, etc. now that NJFN has been in power for 17 years, sorrounded by his tribesmen including you Yoyo, we are reminded of US senators who have been in power for 20 years.

If the SDF really think they are a transparent political party, they should consider doing the following:

Refuses to participate in any elections that has been conducted without an independent electoral commision and ask its militants to boycott such elections. At leasts, that would clearly define their theory of checks and balances. Anything short of that is business my friend. Busines Mr Yoyo which you are involved in which is to colour La Republique as a Multi-Party Democracy in return for bribes in the forms of grants, salaries, stipends, etc. A transparent organisation does not accept "STOLEN GOODS". How can you accept a result that has been dictated by an electoral commitee that is not independent? My friend, that is "STOLEN GOODS" and you cannot argue it reflects the will of the people.

Change its policies and focus on the original philosophy of which our bloods were sacrificed. That should clearly specify how the SDF is going the help provide independence to the Southern Cameroons or something of the kind.

Let me remind the SDF that you cannot steal somebody's vision and succeed. That is why the SDF is suffering today. They stole the vision of Mukong, Feko, Anyangwe, etc and turn around and are trying to do business with it. Let them focus on the original vision of Southern Cameroonians in one way or the other, otherwise, anything they do is bound to fail.

A word to a wise is sufficient.

Akoson


Most of these parliamentarians go to parliament for nothing more than their selfish agrandisement. Most if not all (SDF and CPDM alike) spend time studying texts that give them the chance to 'chop'. They do not, from every indication represent the interest of their suffering people. A solid case in point is Hon. Yoyo who says loud and clear without an iota of shame that he insists to continue going to the glass house for his pension and not to finish unfinished plan he has for his people.

Hear him again: "...The text of the National Assembly even provides that a Parliamentarian can only receive pension after he or she has done at least three terms. Otherwise, if the SDF would not allow its militants to do up to three terms in Parliament, it means that none of its MPs will ever have the opportunity to receive such a pension..." (SIC).

I do not say that he doesn't have the right to receive his pension. No! But he tells the world that he keeps going for terms again and again and again cos of his pension and not for the sake of his people. What a pity!

The son.


Fritzane Kiki HK

I am startled by this interview.What are they doing in the parliament?I am understanding why these parliamentarians are becoming more concerned with enriching themselves and they don't care to carry out their supposed duties because of greed,self-interest and self-centeredness.They are responsible for their irresponsibility in the parliament.

Hear Yoyo; "The CPDM regime rigs the Presidential elections, rigs the Legislative elections, rigs the Municipal elections. In short, it rigs all the elections it organises"
What measures have they put in place to check thess discrepancies.They are not morally accountable for who they represent there that is why "....sanctions against MPs who do not use the annual micro project grants properly, so much depends on the President of the National Assembly" not the SDF.An opposition party is supposed to be as a watchdog to correct the misdeeds and mismanagement of both the ruling party and itself.

Little doubt why micro-projects remain yet to be carried out since there is no sanction metted on these parliamentary conmen and culprits.The incompetent and inconsistent parliamentarians becomes more vulnerable to the whims and caprices of this system(chop a chop).They are accomplices and connive together in their vicious circle of crooks.They deliberately squander these funds with the complicity of the SDF party hierarchy.The perpetrators cannot therefore sanction their henchmen.Never.

If the only punishment metted on this parliamentarians is by "using the power of their votes (the people's vote)to reject those MPs, when they show up again during primaries for other Legislative elections", then I guess corruption is at its apex and this have a devastating effect to the future of party politics in Cameroon.

What do they expect from the next parliamentary hopefuls vying for post to do?They will definately follow suit to their predicessors while inflicting enormous suffering and poverty to their various constituencies.Put together all the parliamentarians,their various projects plus the amount of monies then we shall be lamenting on what is happeing in that parliament.Just a tip of the ice-berg,the ball is in their court.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Fon

Akoson,
"A solid case in point is Hon. Yoyo who says loud and clear without an iota of shame that he insists to continue going to the glass house for his pension and not to finish unfinished plan he has for his people." (Akoson)

I strongly disagree with you on the above point. Where in the interview did Hon Yoyo say his interest is not to finish unfinished plan. The above does represent you.

To show that the point on pension was not a strong point, Yoyo said and I quote "That is not even the issue here,...." Read again.

However, the point I will like to critize Hon Yoyo in the interview is the fact that he gives us the impression that the only responsibility of a parliamentarian and from where he/she can be judged is in the management of micro project funds. Apart of micro projects, there are many other responsibilites of a parliamentarian in the constituency from where his/her performance can be judged. That is to say the role of a parliamentarian in a constituency is not only to execute micro projects and therefore performance can´t only be judged based on micro projects.

mk the southerner

Oh what a game!!!!

There is know word in the Cameroun dictionary as impossible. So do not doubt what is going on with fon doh in the very eyes of the sdf.

This is a big slap on the face of the sdf and on the buttocks of all Southern Cameroonians.I have been wandering why the sdf keep on playing this rule less game with the frog's government.

I got a question. If you are in a game with some body and you came to realize that, that person is always changing the rules of the game without your knowledge.And that each time he does that you always loose just to start back over and over, will you keep on playing that same game with that person? knowing that he will still change the rules without your concern?.

The sdf has been playing this game for more than 17 years now. The rules she don't know as they are changed at will by the boss with the yarm and the knife.
The sdf has already seen the creation of the new sob division as a ploy,and they still exist some other ploys that they will only come to notice only after the elections like they had been doing in past elections.

Knowing all these the sdf is still getting ready to play the same game you and I can only pretend we don't know the results already.

With the sdf playing this rule less game over and over,it means there is something they gain from this game that it takes only a magic aye to see. Same as any Southern Cameroonian be you in the sdf or cpdm, participating in the frog's elections, have more to it than the eyes can see.

Do you now believe me? whether you do or not it is your business but i only pray you see better.

With what yoyo have just said. Do you see with me now? there is something all of them are fighting for.Did you here him cry any thing about you and I? no, pension is their cry yet all of them will like the Southern Cameroons to be free. Will you be the full to go vote them fight for their pensions? while you and your children staff to death?

I told you guys this parliamentarians have know use except making our bloods to shake that there is some hop then they are called to Yaounde and the story become a different one. Fulls some of us are.

MK the Southerner
mkthesoutherner@yahoo.co.uk

Mesh

We should not build mountains on very minute issues. l want to believe that Hon. Yoyo's message is simple and clear. That is, whoever has been voted at the SDF primaries to parliament, should bear in mind that he is going there to represent his people and not his pocket. Failure to do so would be given sanction vote by his constituents at the appropriate time just as some MPs have recently been voted out.

Klemenceau-Shalom

These same sanctioned MPs who were happy with the SDF and Fru Ndi will sooner than soonest turn to tell the world how bad the SDF and Fru Ndi are. They will express their frustration by telling lies about the chairman.
They just started by boycotting the NEC meeting. You can see what selfish politicians they can be. These are the type of MPs who ridicule the party.

Shalom

Klemenceau

Watesih

Hon Yoyo's assessment above shows us that he can talk about his wayward colleagues without fear of being contradicted.This is the democracy that exists in the SDF,which is lacking in the Cpdm.Secondly,it tells us that the SDF is the people`s party,and the people will keep sanctioning forever.The Cpdm militants caution corruption,but SDF militants sanction.It is even a good thing that some wayward people try to bring in the Cpdm mentality into the party now.This gives the militants the ample time to prove to them that corruption cannot be tolerated. Those parliamentarians who thought politics ended with micro projects cannot even bare to attend NEC meetings,because they are not going to stand criticisms.

Fritzane Kiki HK

Mesh,
What has been going on in the last 16-25 years?Year-in-year-out thesame story.So the SDF and CPDM has no accountability for its own parliamentarians?They wait for the ruling party and General Assembly to levy fines and sanction on their MPs who embezzle.I don't think it's a good idea for MPs to go unchecked in their constituencies even though they are charged with other duties.

However,micro-projects are one of the most important of all what these MP's can do since they have a very small percentage in the parliament and so they are always made to go with the CPDM dogma of fraud and corruption.It is now an open practise where MP's and Mayors can do what they want with funds and go scto-free.A disappointing revelation indeed.They should be persecuted and jailed immediately.We should not encourage corrupt officials who are only sanctioned 5-7 years later by their voters in their constuencies.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

Watesih

Rexon,
You were asked this question ,before.I hope you having gone dumb.Tell the truth to Southern Cameroonians.Here goes the question again." Do you know that your being estatic to take part in local elections in Scotland,a country that has not yet achieved autonomy from Britain is in stark contrast with your call for Southern Cameroonians to boycot elections?" Over to you!

Watesih

Errata
Line 1 should read haven`t

Akoson


Fon,

There's no where in Hon. Yoyo's replies that his insistence of going to parliament is to finish unfinished business. It is therefore absolutely logical to discern that his thirst for the glass house is his insatiable thirst of the profits he gets. If we take a critical look at the question, one expected him to declare that he keeps vying to represent his people cos he hasn't yet exhausted the plan he has for that constituency.

Our intentions are so great so much so that when tricked we may reveal them. Truly Hon. Yoyo was tricked to revealing his intentions as to why he keeps going in to parliament - eyeing the benfits (pension) during retirement. After realising that he'd said something dangerous for him and his personality he quickly adds; "that is not the issue". Fon, it wasn't the issue. Then why did he even mention it?

Gentlemen hear Yoyo again and judge whether I'm just being too critical or I'm hitting the nail on its head.

INTERVIEWER: "You won the SDF primaries in your Ngoketunjia constituency to run for the 2007 Legislative Elections. If you win, that would mean taking a record third term as MP. Don't you consider this too long a tenure for a single individual, especially as the SDF is wont to criticise CPDM leadership for sitting tight?" (SIC)

HON. YOYO: "...The text of the National Assembly even provides that a Parliamentarian can only receive pension after he or she has done at least three terms...Otherwise, if the SDF would not allow its militants to do up to three terms in Parliament, it means that none of its MPs will ever have the opportunity to receive such a pension..."

If I were the journalist I would've rightly intercepted with the following question.

So your insistence for a third term is for benefits thereafter...

Hon. Yoyo faultered in the interview.

The Son.

Watesih

Akoson,
That is unmistakingly the meaning of Hon.Yoyo's assertion.It is as if the SDF will want people to go to parliament for at least three times,even if they embezzle every single franc of the people's money.He faltered in the interview.The SDF cannot,and will not condone that type of Cpdm spirit ,where deadwood is maintained in posts in order to perrenise fraud.Pensions are given to those who have rendered meritorious services to the state ,and i don`t think the SDF is out to help people qualify for this privilege.If you want to be elected to Parliament ten times,you have to be accountable to your people.It is not negotiated.When the Chairman faces off in an election with Jua,this is to ensure that he merits his position.If you are voted,and you go to parliament to wait for Parliamentary grants,the people will notice that,and when they sanction you,you will be ashamed to attend Nec meetings ,as they are now doing.

Akoson


Good Watesih,

I'm glad you saw how Hon. Yoyo faltered in the interview. He MAY have shown his egoistic nature in public. That was my point.

You see I'm very happy with the SDF grassroot spirit where they vote out their representatives who are not accountable. I didn't expect such a 'cabinet shake-up' by the people. Sincerely speaking I loved it very much. Well those who emerged victotious should be cautious cos the militants of the party started assessing them from day one. They all were happy and hugging the chairman, Fru Ndi. They fail to understand that Fru Ndi smiles only with those who have the people at heart and work for them. Fru Ndi is the only Cameroonian politician who lashes out at his own executives and tells them point blanc when they derail from the philosophy of the SDF.

The Son

rexon

SNP pips Labour in Holyrood vote


Brian Taylor's blog
The Scottish National Party has broken Labour's eight-year dominance of the Scottish Parliament.
The SNP has emerged from the election with 47 seats, one more than its rival. The Tories ended up with 17, the Lib Dems with 16 and the Greens two.

Independent Margo MacDonald was returned to the new parliament.

Speculation is now rising about an SNP/Lib Dems/others coalition but a stumbling block could be the Nats' plans for an independence referendum.

A minimum of 65 MSPs will be needed to form a majority administration.

Scottish Liberal Democrat leader Nicol Stephen has regarded a referendum as a significant block to a power-sharing deal.

Under the Scotland Act, a new first minister has to be appointed within 28 days of the election, making the deadline 30 May.

There may well be Labour Governments and Labour first ministers in the decades to come but never again will we see the Labour Party assume that it has a divine right to rule Scotland

Alex Salmond
SNP leader

The results came after a night of high drama, which saw the polls hit by major problems.

Seven counts were suspended amid claims that voters had been confused by the ballot papers and the decision to hold the local authority elections at the same time.

The Nationalists made significant gains, including SNP leader Alex Salmond winning in Gordon, and his deputy Nicola Sturgeon taking Glasgow Govan.

In an address aimed at setting out his credentials as a first minister in waiting, Mr Salmond said on Friday afternoon that the Labour Party had "lost the moral authority to govern Scotland".

"Scotland has changed for good and forever," he declared.

'Snap decision'

"There may well be Labour Governments and Labour first ministers in the decades to come but never again will we see the Labour Party assume that it has a divine right to rule Scotland.

"Labour has no moral authority left to govern Scotland."

Scottish Labour leader and current First Minister Jack McConnell pledged to "keep all options open" on how to go forward from the knife-edge outcome of the election, indicating he would not rush into any hasty coalition decisions.


The Holyrood poll will see 129 MSPs elected

He said: "I have not spent the last five-and-a-half years of my life as first minister building up Scotland and improving this country to make a snap decision this weekend about the future of our country, a decision that could affect every family across Scotland.

"Having fought an election campaign to put a strong economy, the foundation of our work - the education service - as our national priority, and action of crime and anti-social behaviour as fundamental, it is right and proper this weekend that I and my party reflect on how best to take forward these priorities in government and the parliament again."

Respondnig to Alex Salmond's comments claiming a moral authority, Mr McConnell added: "While I recognise that the SNP are the largest party by the narrowest of margins, Alex Salmond must himself recognise that he does not have a majority in the Scottish Parliament or anywhere near a majority of the vote.

"There is no moral authority to pursue separation and moral authority in the parliament will only come through different parties working together in the majority. Any attempt to suggest otherwise is, at this stage, highly premature."

'Key policies'

Scottish Conservative leader Annabel Goldie said she was proud of her party's election campaign.

She said: "Proud that we have talked relentlessly about the issues - the bread and butter issues - which really matter to the people of Scotland.

"Defeating drugs, cutting crime, affordable homes, standing up for families and proud too that we have stood up and defended the Union."

Ms Goldie added: "I promise that over the next four years, the Scottish Conservatives will continue to be a voice for common sense at Holyrood and will never compromise on our ideals.

Scottish Lib Dem leader Mr Stephen, the current deputy first minister, said he was committed to delivering his party's key policies on energy, health and young people.

"Day after day, the Liberal Democrats have promoted a positive programme, focused on families and on children," Mr Stephen said.

"The Liberal Democrats, in this new Scottish Parliament, are determined to deliver on our key policies.

"My commitment is to these policies and to a bright future for Scotland."

Fon

Akoson,
If you are not comfortable that Hon Yoyo mentioned the issue of pension, then you wanted him to lie. I don´t know anybody who will not want to qualify for that pension. He mentioned pension just as one of the issues motivating him to go for a third term.

The most important thing is, Yoyo knows that inorder to qualify for the pension, he must satisfy his electorates who will always decide his faith. He is not negotiating with the electorates to help him qualify for the pension.
It is obvious that If he was re-elected, it means he initiated projects. Isn´t it said, action speaks better than words? Yet you are there only insisting that Hon Yoyo should have told the journalist that his sole interest for a third term is to complete unfinished projects.

We have to be realistic. If I am an electorate,a politician comes to me during campaigns and says his interest in politics is solely to serve the nation, I will not vote for that person. I will conclude that he/she is lying. Every politician also has personal interest beside serving the electorates; there is nothing wrong if Hon Yoyo´s own personal interest is his pension in the long run.

rexon

Watesih,

You can get the answer of your question from the news above. If your problem is reading comprehension as everybody knows, then i will be there to help you.

Akoson and SDF prophets,

There is no point trying to twist what Yoyo have said that is very clear. Everybody who is intelligent will know that Yoyo et al., are there for their pockets and not for the masses as they claim. At least Yoyo have faltered to tell us that he is there for his pensions and nothing else. Faltered because all things being equal, he should not have said this in public but he should have continued his theft of our resources and colouring of Biya's democracy in return for his bribes in the form of grants, salaries, pensions, etc. I dont read anything from these people, because at least i know them. They are what they are and you cannot deny that. Do you know how much grants, pensions, etc children of these politicians receive illegally from the government? At least some of us know, though we cannot keep telling this forum to stand clear of them. Those who support them are those who benefit in one way or the other from the theft of our resources like Watesih and Fon.

Another problem that is worrying my mind is the way the SDF is propagating tribalism amongst Southern Cameroons. I cant be afraid to talk about it my brother Klemenceau because the West is not afraid to talk about racism of which i am a victim. I believe the best way to protect the minorities is through preaching it rather than hiding it. Imagine everything in the SDF is headed by a Northwestener. Yoyo, Mbah Ndam, Elisabeth Tamanjong, NJFN, etc all henchmen and holding strategic positions in the SDF are all from the Northwest. What a shame? Everything SDF is headed by a Northwestener. One theory might be that these people dont trust people from other tribes. Imagine NEC have all strategic positions occupied by Northwesteners. Is that not tribalism? Akoson, do you think this is different from the Beti domination of our economic systems and civil service?

If you Akoson is still blind and have not investigated these people before falling into their politics, then i will advise you to do so before listening to them. To say good things using sweet language which is very commón with politicians is one thing, to practice it is another. Akoson, i dont want to go personal, but u and i know very much what Yoyo is saying.

Akoson, i have quoted u people like Pa Tanyi of Mutengene (who recently died) who refused to collect his own pensions from CDC and refused to be transferred illegally simply because he knew that the rules has been twisted to implicate him. Had he taken the pension or grants from the government, or accepted the transfer to SOCAPALM, the CPDM would have scored a political goal. He died without a penny, despite the fact that the government was owing him much money for illegal sacking and for his pensions. Luma also persistently refused to illegally coperate with La Republique for his properties to be handed back to him. These properties include assets that span as far as the present day police college of Mutengene. He was the heir of several companies from his german families like elders and fife, plantations in Bwinga, etc. But because of his commitment to the Southern Cameroonian course, the government seized these properties without compensation. When he was with the SDF, La Republique's government approached him several times to pay his compensation, but he refused because he knew they wanted to score political goals because of the conditions it attached to it. If it were people like Yoyo, they would do like your chairman, in rushing to receive the soo called grants from the government citing a mundane law only known by them and their ilk. If NJFN cannot even refuse to rent his house to PMUC, what do you think Yoyo or Mbah Ndam should do?

Concerning checks and balances and transparency in the SDF. As the genius MK THE SOUTHERNER pointed out There can be no transparency in an election that is not transparent itself. So Yoyo, Feli, Watesih, etc should spare us the talk about transparency in the SDF. The SDF like the CPDM rigs elections in La Republique and the Southern Cameroons and that is why they are always rushing for elections even when the rules are not in their favour. The SDF have a long history of having more votes than the number of registered voters in several polling stations in Mutengene, Nkambe, Mezam and other areas. So they too rigs elections and not only the CPDM.

Cheers.

Fon

Breaking News
A Keyanian Flight from Douala en ronte to Keyan with more than 100 passengers on board disappears early this morning after taken off from Douala. Lets pray for those on board.

Akoson


Fon, I'm writing to confirm same story I got from yahoo news. Let's pray that its only a technical error.

NAIROBI, Kenya - Kenya Airways has lost contact with a commercial airliner carrying more than 100 passengers that took off from Cameroon early Saturday, the airline said.

"The last message was received in Douala after takeoff and thereafter the tower was unable to contact the plane," Kenya Airways CEO Titus Naikuni said Saturday.

The Boeing 737-800 was carrying 106 passengers, eight crew members and a flight engineer, he said. The plane is capable of carrying 189 passengers.

"We have no details about what has happened to the aircraft," Naikuni said.

The flight departed Douala at 12:05 a.m. and was to arrive in Nairobi at 6:15 a.m. The flight originated in Ivory Coast but stopped in Cameroon to pick up more passengers, the airline said.

The airline opened a crisis management center near the airport. Relatives of those on the plane were instructed to go to a downtown airport, where they would be provided information as it became available.

The last crash of an international Kenya Airways flight was on Jan. 30, 2000, when Flight 431 was taking off from Abidjian, Ivory Coast, on its way to Nairobi. Investigators blamed a faulty alarm and pilot error for that crash, which killed 169 people.

Feli

Akoson,
Lets pray it is just a technical default and not a crash.Please keep us informed.

Kiki,
Your last comment showed some form of maturity. That is the kind of constructive criticism SDF needs. But when you fumble with facts, distort stories and misinform people, SDF members with their experience with detractors would always be quick to show ill-faithed invectives.
That said, you say "...It is now an open practise where MP's and Mayors can do what they want with funds and go scto-free.A disappointing revelation indeed.They should be persecuted and jailed immediately.We should not encourage corrupt officials who are only sanctioned 5-7 years later by their voters in their constuencies."
Firstly, in a party where the people have the final say, it would abnormal to give the Executive of that party the sole right to hire-and-fire. This is because parliamentarians do not represent SDF militants only. They represent constituencies, which are made up of several other parties. Thus, the party can only levy democratic sanctions within its structures, which is during primaries.
On the other hand, where there is ample evidence of indiscipline, gross misappropriation and all other ills that may bring the party to disrepute, it is the duty of NEC to set up fact-finding commissions and eventual sanctioning as the case may be. In doing this, the party is aware that with loss of membership,it can only disown its MP and thus effectively reducing its numerical strength in the structures involved. But the MP concerned would still be entitled to his parliamentary seat, and may even aggravate the theft or graft as the case maybe for he knows he would not have another chance. So at the end of it all, it is the electorate that suffers in such a case from increased absenteeism,negligence and unaccountability of their representative in parliament. This is the dilemma a democratic party has and so its leadership is obliged to have a good sense of judgement. In the SDF, NEC prevents such incidents by regularly training its mayors and parliamentarians during seminars. If these do not help, the Chairman, the province and the electoral district officials personally concert with the concerned parliamentarians and remind regularly of their obligations towards the people. Those who still do not heed to this advise will obviously face the embarassment of listening to the Chairman when he mounts the podium to address a rally in their constituencies. After that, if they still do not live up to the expectations of the people, they shall face the consequence of it when the meet the grassroot during primaries.And when floored,they start shying away from NEC meetings for example and blaming their weaknesses on others.

Rexon,
You are lying when you say "...I believe the best way to protect the minorities is through preaching it rather than hiding it. Imagine everything in the SDF is headed by a Northwestener. Yoyo, Mbah Ndam, Elisabeth Tamanjong, NJFN, etc all henchmen and holding strategic positions in the SDF are all from the Northwest." So where do you put Maitre Augustin Mbami a Bamilike resident in Littoral who oversees ALL the finances of the SDF. Is that not an important position? Where do you put Joshua Osih from the South West(the Vice-Chairman), Evariste Fopoussi (the Communication boss), Prof. Ndiva Kofele Kale (the head of the judiciary commission), Hon Pierre Kwemo (Vice President of the National Assembly and by implication, the 2nd to ascend the presidency of the Republic, that is in case of a vacancy where Biya and Cavaye were incapacitated).Are these not important positions? The list of non-NorthWesterners in the highest decision-making organs of the SDF is inexhaustive, that is why even disgruntled Prof. Asonganyi never mentions this aspect in his grumblings. Futhermore, in the SDF, we have the culture of one-man one-vote meaning even if you are Chairman or from Moloundou or Kouseri, when a decision is to be taken, your voice counts only once! So this tribal rivalry you have been attempting to nurse here for several months now will not work. Not the least!

The SDF has been struggling to implement its policy of gender representation. That is why since Dr. Tamajong became Secretary General, more and more women have been encouraged to do active politics. The result of this is already palpable as the number of female aspirants during the present primaries significantly increased. The whole thing is a process and the SDF is prepared to revolutionarise the role of women in Cameroon. I know chauvinists like Rexon would find no comfort in this vision. Well, that is his problem.
To conclude, the following statement is a lie. Plain and simple."..The SDF have a long history of having more votes than the number of registered voters in several polling stations in Mutengene, Nkambe, Mezam and other areas." Lies come in when that sinister energy of frustration and confusion impede logical reasoning.So, may be someone is need of help. Urgently.

rexon

You are also lying when you dont accept that the original mission of the SDF before it was turned to a business entity was to fight in one way or the other for the independence (at least partial independence modelled on the UK system of devolution)through a change in the Laws of La Republique. At least you know right deep inside your heart that this is the truth, although you dont want to annoy your Bamilikie brothers like maitre Mbami and since i dont like lies telling, i want to tell the whole world this truth.

You are also lying when you cannot accept that the SDF has been rigging elections in its stronghold for its favour. I know from experience that this is what the SDF is used to doing. Filling ballot boxes with SDF papers at SDF strongholds and i know from my own involvement that the SDF has been rigging elections just like the CPDM. Even their primaries is sometimes rigged. When Chiet Toto Elias Eteh (RIP), Won mayoral elections in Tiko council hall, it was rigged infront of my eyes on grounds that news has come from the SDF hierarchy in Bamenda that his rival is the favoured candidate. That was in my eyes in the 90's.

You are also lying when you cannot publicly disclose and discuss the financial benefits of SDF parliamentarians and executives from La Republiques henchmen from the CPDM government. As some of us know, people like Yoyo have amassed substantial wealth from the involvement in SDF politics and are living above their means like our ministers, sponsoring their kids abroad, etc. We want to know how they are making their money and how they can finance University Studies for their children in schools like Imperial College London whose tuition is about 20 Million francs. I say so because i know some of them are acting suspiciously, spending more than their means here in europe, etc.

Cheers.

Akoson


Feli, Ladies and gentlemen, I'm afraid it seems it was a plane crash!

YAOUNDE, Cameroon - A Kenya Airways passenger plane with more than 100 people on board crashed in southern Cameroon on Saturday, state radio reported.

The west African nation's radio report said that the Nairobi-bound jet went down near the town of Niete, north of the border with Equatorial Guinea. It gave no further details.

Kenya Airways CEO Titus Naikuni, speaking in Nairobi, said he couldn't immediately confirm the radio report that the plane had crashed. "We have not been officially informed," he said.

Relatives waiting at Nairobi's airport began wailing when television news stations reported that the plane had crashed. Dozens of family members cried and collapsed in the airport terminal while awaiting official word from the airline.

At a crisis center Kenya Airways set-up at a downtown Nairobi hotel, a woman was screaming in the lobby before being led into an elevator, trailed by photographers.

Naikuni said a team of investigators had been dispatched to the crash site but "so far no report has been received yet from this mission."

Kenya Airways said earlier Saturday it had lost contact with the jet shortly after its midnight takeoff from Douala, Cameroon, north of Niete.

"The last message was received in Douala after takeoff and thereafter the tower was unable to contact the plane," Naikuni said.

Kenyan airline officials said the Boeing 737-800 was carrying 114 people, including 105 passengers, from 23 countries. Naikuni said the plane was six months old.

The plane departed Douala at 12:05 a.m. and was to arrive in Nairobi at 6:15 a.m. It originated in the Ivory Coast, but stopped in Cameroon to pick up more passengers, the airline said.

The last crash of an international Kenya Airways flight was on Jan. 30, 2000, when Flight 431 was taking off from Abidjian, Ivory Coast, on its way to Nairobi. Investigators blamed a faulty alarm and pilot error for that crash, which killed 169 people.

Associated Press Writer Tom Maliti in Nairobi, Kenya, contributed to this report.

Akoson

Rexon, could you please provide the names of these students studying at BIG universities in Europe? We need such solid proofs so that we can weigh the argument on both sides and begin to start understanding THINGS.

Fon

Yes Akoson,
It is unfortunate that it has been confirmed that the flight crashed somewhere around Douala.

rexon

Hi Akoson,

We agreed to draft the points today around this time. Hope you know what i am talking about as i cannot elaborate in this forum.

Concerning your call for hard proffs, that is part and parcel of the politics and i cannot bring the proffs here. When NJFN rented his house to PMUC, did he bring to the public attention how much he was paid? As far as i know, that was the way the CPDM and France bribed him because i know that the amount was several times inflated. So if you want to protect them because you think they are wiser than us and can hide their very corrupt policies, then so be it. I have told you about several of our parents some of whom even refused their pension from the Government because of conditions attached to it and died poor but with their philosophies and ideologies which they passed to us. But here are politicians telling us how they are struggling to stay in power for more than 20 years because of pensions. They really need help.

Watesih

Rexon,
I have read everrything about your country Scotland above,and i have seen how the elections were conducted,the difficulties,and the end result.I have not read anywhere in the report why you took part in this election.You want to distort public opinion by playing the tribalism card.My question to you again is:"
WHY WERE YOU SO ESTATIC ,AND VOTED IN ELECTIONS IN SCOTLAND,WHICH IS FIGHTING FOR AUTONOMY FROM BRITAIN,BUT YOU ASK SOUTHERN CAMEROONIANS WHO ARE ASKING THE SAME FROM LA REPUBLIQUE NOT TO DO SAME? " .Over to you my Scottish friend!

mk the southerner

This space i booked heir is to beg for a moment of silence from all the members of this forum, for the crew on board the Kenyan air ways.

AMEN.

rexon

Since your problem as we all know is with comprehension, let me summarise this to you.

I participated for the elections, capaigned and voted for the following reasons:

Their political set-up comprises of Pro-Independence parties and Unionist parties. Both have the right to their opinion but all send candidates to the Scottish Parliament which is different from the UK Parliament. It is like our parliament in Buea.

-The rules of devolution gives pro-Independence parties the right to call for a referendum if they can win majority seats in the Scottish Parliament.

-Their elections is organised by an independent electoral commision which is electronic.

Scotland has its own parliament and in their scottish parliament, they can debate certain issues and decide on their own future.

The difference with the SDF politics with La Republique is:

The SDF was created in one way or the other to fight for the Southern Cameroons independence or partial autonomy.
They have NEVER EVER preached this and we dont know where they stand, if they are unionist with La Republique or pro-independence parties. If they are unionist, then they have to tell us much about the Union with La Republique that we dont know.
They are in La Republiques parliament even though a majority are from the Southern Cameroons.
We dont know if they represent the people as there was no Independent electoral Commision and the rules of the game are not transparent.

rexon

Watesih,

To add, Pro Independence parties are now forming a coalition to call for a referendum in their parliament.

Cheers.

Akoson


As events unfold we get more detailed news about the recent plane crash in Southern Cameroon.

YAOUNDE, Cameroon - A Kenya Airways jet with 114 people on board crashed early Saturday after sending out a distress signal over a remote rainforest in southern Cameroon, officials said. Nearby villagers reported hearing a loud boom.

The Nairobi-bound jet went down near the town of Lolodorf, about 155 miles south of the coastal city of Douala, where it had taken off after midnight, said Alex Bayeck, a regional communications officer.

There was no word on survivors, said Bayeck, speaking by telephone en route to the crash site. He said search planes were flying over the forested area where the airliner gave off a distress signal, but no wreckage had been spotted.

He said residents in the area, which has few roads and is dotted by small villages, reported hearing a "large boom" during the night. "Searchers have gone out looking in this area," he said.

Kenya Airways CEO Titus Naikuni said the plane, which was almost new, took off an hour late because of rain.

Kenya's transport minister, Ali Chirau Makwere, said it was too early to determine the cause of the crash.

"We need to get information from the technical experts as to whether it was occasioned by the weather or pilot error or mechanical fault," he said in Nairobi. "We really don't know. It's too early to make any conclusions."

The Boeing 737-800 was carrying 114 people, including 105 passengers, from 23 countries, Kenyan airline officials said. A Nairobi-based Associated Press correspondent, Anthony Mitchell, was believed to be among the passengers.

"Anthony had been on assignment for the past week, and had contacted his family before boarding the flight to let them know he was headed home. We hope for the best," AP Executive Editor Kathleen Carroll said.

Relatives waiting at Nairobi's airport began wailing as news reports of the crash filtered in. Dozens of family members collapsed in the airport terminal.

A man who said his nephew was the co-pilot was comforting the man's weeping mother. "We are praying for them, we don't know if they are alive or dead," said the man, who did not want to give his name.

The flight departed Douala at 12:05 a.m. and was to arrive in Nairobi at 6:15 a.m. The flight originated in Ivory Coast but stopped in Cameroon to pick up more passengers, the airline said.

"The last message was received in Douala after takeoff and thereafter the tower was unable to contact the plane," Kenya Airways' Naikuni said earlier Saturday.

The Douala-Nairobi flight runs several times a week, and is commonly used as an intermediary flight to Europe and the Middle East.

Kenya Airways — considered one of the safest airlines in Africa — said most passengers were planning to transfer to ongoing flights in Nairobi. Naikuni said the plane was only six months old when it crashed.

The last crash of an international Kenya Airways flight was on Jan. 30, 2000, when Flight 431 was taking off from Abidjan, Ivory Coast, on its way to Nairobi. Investigators blamed a faulty alarm and pilot error for that crash, which killed 169 people.

Associated Press writer Elizabeth A. Kennedy contributed to this report from Nairobi, Kenya.

Akoson

(CNN) -- Searchers in Cameroon on Saturday were working to track down a missing Nairobi-bound Kenya Airways flight reported to have gone down in a forested area southwest of the Cameroonian capital of Yaounde.

African media reports say Kenya Airways Flight KQ 507 -- which was carrying 115 crew and passengers -- crashed near Yaounde.

But Titus Naikuni, the company's chief executive officer, refused to describe the incident as a crash. He told reporters that "at the moment you can't make a clear statement until you see the aircraft itself."

The plane took off from the Cameroonian city of Douala bound for Nairobi, Kenya and was scheduled to arrive in the Kenyan capital about 6 a.m., the airline said. There were reports of thunderstorms in the area around the time of takeoff overnight.

An airline official said the last message from the aircraft was an automatic distress signal received soon after takeoff from Douala airport. The plane was just six months old, the airline said.

People from 25 different countries were on aboard. They included one American, five Britons, one Swiss, one Swede, six Chinese, and 15 Indians. The remainder were Africans, including at least 35 from Cameroon and at least nine from Kenya, according to airline figures.

The Associated Press said Anthony Mitchell, a Nairobi-based AP correspondent, was believed" to be on the flight.

Relatives waiting at Nairobi's airport were distraught as news reports about the missing plane came in. Dozens of family members cried and collapsed in the airport terminal.

One person there said families there had received no information. "I cannot talk now because there is no news," he told AP, declining to give his name. "We have not been given any information."

Cameroon's military sent helicopters from Douala airport to the believed crash site, AP reported.

Celestine Ngoue, general inspector of Cameroon's civil aviation authority, said a search was on for the plane over and in the rough terrain of southern Cameroon.

Security forces are slogging through the densely forested areas, parts of which have some villages and roads, but other parts of which are totally undeveloped. State aircraft are doing flyovers of the equatorial forest and a helicopter was tracking the craft's route.

He also knocked down a news report that the plane crashed near the town of Lolodorf.

Kenyans are sending a delegation to Cameroon, and Naikuni said the United States was helping authorities track the flight location. Naikuni said the location is about 100 kilometers, or more than 60 miles, southwest of Yaounde.

A Kenya Airways flight crashed seven years ago, on January 30, 2000, when a Nairobi-bound flight took off from Abidjan, Ivory Coast. The airline is considered one of the safest in Africa.

Akoson


YAOUNDE, Cameroon - A Kenya Airways jet that took off during a midnight storm crashed early Saturday with 114 on board after sending out a distress signal over remote southern Cameroon, officials said. Nearby villagers reported hearing an explosion and seeing a flash of fire.

The jet bound for the Kenyan capital, Nairobi, went down near the town of Lolodorf, about 90 miles southeast of the coastal city of Douala, where it had taken off after midnight, said Alex Bayeck, a regional communications officer.

There was no word on survivors, Bayeck said by telephone en route to the crash site. He said search planes were flying over the forested area where the airliner gave off a distress signal but no wreckage has been spotted.

Residents in the area, which has few roads and is dotted by small villages, reported hearing a "large boom" during the night, and some described a flash of fire that looked markedly different from lightning, Bayeck said.

In Lolodorf, close to a dozen ambulances stood ready and a handful of family members of passengers gathered in the city center. Some said they had traveled as far as 250 miles that day.

"I don't know what to do. I'm just terribly confused. My younger sister boarded this plane that is supposed to have crashed. I hope we can still find her alive," said Innocent Bonu, a lawyer from the southwestern town of Buea.

Jean Francois Villong, a local official who is coordinating the rescue effort, said the air search stopped with nightfall because helicopters could not operate effectively in the dark, but the ground search was continuing.

"It is very difficult because this area is very mountainous and heavily forested. And we suspect the plane may have fallen into a valley," Villong said.

He said helicopters will start searching again in the morning and additional rescue workers are expected to reinforce the effort. Much of Friday's searching was done by volunteers from local villages, Villong added.

Kenya Airways CEO Titus Naikuni held back on confirming the crash "until we see the plane — until then, it's missing," he said.

He said the distress call was issued automatically — "from a machine, not a pilot" — but said a crash is not the only reason a plane issues an automatic distress signal.

Boeing spokesman Jim Proulx said the plane that crashed was equipped with an emergency transmitter that sends out an automatic locator signal "in the event of a rapid change in velocity."

Proulx told The Associated Press by telephone from Seattle that the transmitter would have been activated upon impact and can also be manually turned on by the plane's flight crew.

Naikuni said the plane, which was almost new, took off an hour late because of rain. Douala airport officials confirmed thunderstorms at the time of takeoff but said that was unlikely to have been the sole cause of the accident.

"There was a thunderstorm, but there were other planes that left after (the Kenya Airways flight to Nairobi) that had no problems," said Thomas Sobatam, head of weather observation at the airport.

Kenya's transport minister, Ali Chirau Makwere, said it was too early to determine what happened.

"We need to get information from the technical experts as to whether it was occasioned by the weather or pilot error or mechanical fault," he said in Nairobi. "We really don't know. It's too early to make any conclusions."

The Boeing 737-800 was carrying 114 people, including 105 passengers from at least 23 countries, Kenyan airline officials said. A Nairobi-based Associated Press correspondent, Anthony Mitchell, was believed to be among them. Mitchell had been on assignment in the region for the past week.

"Anthony ... had contacted his family before boarding the flight to let them know he was headed home," AP Executive Editor Kathleen Carroll said. "We hope for the best."

Relatives at Nairobi's airport began wailing as news reports of the crash filtered in. Dozens of family members collapsed in the airport terminal.

One person at the airport said families had not been given any information. "I cannot talk now because there is no news," he said, declining to give his name.

Janet Mwema went to a crisis center Kenya Airways set up at a Nairobi hotel because she believed her daughter, Vicky, a cabin crew member, might have been on the flight.

"We trust God that he will strengthen his people," Mwema said. "Because we all go one day, whether it is accident or what."

The flight departed Douala at 12:05 a.m. and was to arrive in Nairobi at 6:15 a.m. The flight originated in Ivory Coast but stopped in Cameroon to pick up more passengers, the airline said.

"The last message was received in Douala after takeoff and thereafter, the tower was unable to contact the plane," Naikuni said earlier Saturday. He said the plane was only six months old.

Kenyan government spokesman Alfred Mutua urged patience. "The area is in a very dense forest; the weather has been horrid to say the least," he said, suggesting that rain was hampering the search.

That area of Cameroon is not well-covered by radar, and investigators are having a hard time pinpointing the plane's flight path, Mutua said.

Infrastructure is poor in Cameroon's interior, with much of the area being searched only accessible by dirt tracks that turn to impassable mud in the rainy season. The country of 17 million on Africa's western coast has oil reserves and lush farmland but many of its citizens remain poor subsistence farmers.

The Douala-Nairobi flight runs several times a week and commonly is used as an intermediary flight to Europe and the Middle East. Kenya Airways — considered one of the safest airlines in Africa — said most passengers were planning to transfer to ongoing flights in Nairobi.

The U.S. National Transportation Safety Board said it was sending a team to assist the government of Cameroon in its investigation of the crash.

In 2004, the United States helped investigate the crash of a Flash Airlines Boeing 737 that killed all 148 on board minutes after taking off from the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheik, Egypt.

Proulx said there have not been any safety concerns with Chicago-based Boeing's fleet of 737-800s. About 2,000 737-800s are in use around the world.

"We express our profound concern for the passengers and crew on board on the Kenya Airways flight that went missing," Proulx said Saturday. "We stand ready to assist the authorities if they ask us to do so."

The last crash of an international Kenya Airways flight was on Jan. 30, 2000, when Flight 431 was taking off from Abidjan, Ivory Coast, on its way to Nairobi. Investigators blamed a faulty alarm and pilot error for that crash, which killed 169 people.

Associated Press writers Elizabeth A. Kennedy and Tom Maliti in Nairobi, Kenya, and Heidi Vogt in Dakar, Senegal, and Ashley Heher in Chicago contributed to this report.

Fritzane Kiki HK

All the media outlets in the western world never recount a story about African countries without bias,defammation and reject.They always expose African countries in a degrading image.The article above about this reported Kenyan Airways catastrophic incident was diverted and the reporter is recounting the poverty status of Cameroon.An except reads;
"....Infrastructure is poor in Cameroon's interior, with much of the area being searched only accessible by dirt tracks that turn to impassable mud in the rainy season. The country of 17 million on Africa's western coast has oil reserves and lush farmland but many of its citizens remain poor subsistence farmers"

They have never respected our common cultural heritage while they report with added insult of hatred and contempt.With a sharp critism of the Africa's people's enormous resoucres.They always claim African countries have been living in excrutiating Poverty for years but they never say there is some economic uplift in the recent years.

This should ring a note of awareness to these our selfish politicians who think only about their finiancial gains than the reconstruction and develpment of their regions.They only think democracy means elections and after elections they forget who voted them there,why they were elected and the 'raison d'etre' representation in the parliament.At the end of their term of office they always claim in their new campaigns oratories that their mission was accomplished 'mission accomplie',yet the peole remain doomfounded and helpless with no major changes in their areas.

Fritzane Kiki
Hong Kong

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