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Monday, 23 July 2007

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rexon

"SDF National Chairman, John Fru Ndi, has described the 2007 polls as an exercise in futility, saying the elections failed even before they began"

My dear friend, then why did you go in? Why were your supporters Fon, Feli, Atangha, Watesih, attacking us for saying so? Since you know that there has been fraud, what will you do? You are part of the complicity to this charade. It has never been right Mr NJFN to accept the unacceptable. I had thought you would try to carry your decency further by denouncing this election even before it started. The fact that you took part before complaining amounts to fraud in itself. It was a poisoned chalice that u thought could be manoevered to favour you. Unfortunately, u were wrong as your thugs could not fraud more than the colonial gerndarmes. Mr NJFN, join the right movement, u can never become the president of a foreign land.

Legima Doh

Fellow Comrades.
Did I not tell you all that Fru Ndi and his cohorts knew of the election outcome even before they went to the polls.Let Fon Watesih tell us how this Sdf omnipresent complains without retreating is not a waste of time.Nico Halle said unless in Santa,the election was peaceful.I really wonder whether the duty of the NEO was to ensure a true and fair election to ensure a peaceful election.He said nothing about whether it was true and fair or not.You deceive our brethren that you shall ensure a free and fair election in La Republique when you know that is absolute falsehood.Just like Ni Fru Ndi and cohorts,you too knew of the election outcome before people went to the polling stations.Nico Halle you are a felon to the Southern Cameroonians.
So let Watesih Fon tell us Sdf's way forward as at now.The election was this,it was that,same yesterday,same today and same tomorrow.Its a shame on the Sdf.The Sdf just went to the polls to deceive the world that there is democracy in La Republique.She knew she was going to vote but for La Republique's victory but carried her illusioned sympathisers there deceiving them with all sorts of bla bla bla that has become a humdrum.

This is the result of the stormy campaigns that Watesih Fon,Unitedstatesofafrica have been singing day in day out.Its a shame.

Peace UPon our Motherland.

Legima Doh,
SCNC

Legima Doh

Yeah Comrade Rexon.Ni Fru Ndi can never become La Republique's president.He is not part of them.He is alien to them and an enemy too to them whom they use a scarekrow which is noticed only when there is a wind of political deception in La Republique.Its better for him to come back to the house because ere long,he may become considered an alien in the Southern Cameroons.You want to join the true movement Ni Fru.Its a matter of taking heart.You shall not be despised in the SCNC ok.

Peace Upon our Land.

Legima Doh,
SCNC

UnitedStatesofAfrica

REXON PLEASE PROVIDE PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS...and as for the fiesty Legima Doh, just to clear things up with you, I have never been a member or a supporter of the SDF. But the difference between me and you is that I am a realist and you are an idealist. I see things as they are but you prefer to dream. I do not support SDF politics but atleast they are trying to do provide some practical solutions to the problems in Cameroon.Even if their solutions are not working, atleast they are not cowards and I will applaud them for that. Idealists like you are cowards who do nothing but criticize and criticize. History always forgets the critic but it will remember the person who tried. Fru Ndi may have failed in many aspects but 30 years from now, people will say that he tried to do something. Critics like you will be forgotten and swept with the dust. I am not saying you should not criticize Fru Ndi, but when you do come up with a solution that is better than his, Don't just say Fru Ndi has failed and that Southern Cameroons should break away and form their own country. Do you guys even know what it takes to start a new country? do you even know the economic problems that southern cameroons will face if we breakaway? what practical solutions do you have to solve these problems? I don't know what world you are in but in the real world, it takes more than words to complete a task.

rexon

Unitedstates of Africa, The truth is bitter but must be spoken. We are critics because, we decipher the truth that is bitter. Our solution is for the SDF to leave us alone, so that we can build an independent Southern Cameroons. Their participation of La Republiques charades is not only an embarassment to them but to all Southern Cameroonians. Our solution is: We should all join hands and fight for a truly independent Southern Cameroons with a legitimate right to be independent as any other UN trust territories. When we are independent, we will together join hands to build a truly independent republic.

Ma Mary

We did run our own country before and we can do that again. This is like a marriage is terrible. Both sides are suffering but one side, our side is about to expire from the oppression. Divorce and a fresh start, with all the difficulties that entails is the best solution in a situation like that.

TAGRO

John Fru Ndi and his party said they participate in elections to demonstrate how fraudulent it is. John Fru Ndi & SDF, I say MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Now I expect you Mr. Ndi to go to the Ministry of Finance of la Republique Francaise du Cameroun and get paid for accomplishing your mission and make sure this time you share it with your voodoo worshippers. It may be the last time you do so. Reports reaching us is that all your henchmen: Yoyo (the one time junta police officer who once confiscated SDF material), Mbah Ndam amongst others in well-designed so-called SDF strongholds have all lost.

Now Southern Cameroonians who till noe were believing in the voodoo politics of la Republique Francaise du Cameroun and her French-sponsored NGO, the SDF, will be making their choices hopefully in the spirit of truth and honesty and not voodoo promises of staying at the polling stations.

The SDF has run its course. Biya was no fool when he told JEUNE AFRIQUE a couple of years ago that if the SDF did not exist, he'd have created one.

Even the Franco-Camerounese have lost faith in their own system with news reports that 20% voted. 20% of 5 million registered voters.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

"When we are independent, we will together join hands to build a truly independent republic."- Rexon
How will you do it, that is my question? all the SCNC says is when we will, when we will. I want to know how? People need to start asking questions. Secession is risky business; it can save a country or submenrged it into complete chaos. In order for secession to work, people need to start asking the SCNC questions. Criticisms is not enough. Nkrumah criticized, , Obote criticized, Idi Amin criticized, Mugabe criticized and the list goes on but did that change really come? people need to ask the SCNC questions and stop following them like blind dogs. People need to know what makes themn different from the rest? what plans do they have so that we know they are really serious? If these questions are not answered, the SCNC is a waste as far as i'm concerned.
We don't want Southern Cameroons to be ruled tomorrow by a bunch of inexperienced people who read Martin Luther King's I have a speech dreama nd felt like they could change the world...oh please

UnitedStatesofAfrica

we don't want Southern Cameroons to be ruled tomorrow by a bunch of inexpereinced people who read Martin Luther King's I have a dream speech and felt like they could change the world..oh please

UnitedStatesofAfrica

From my analysis, the SCNC supporters think that anyone who is not an SCNC supporter is a supporter of La republique or let me use Rexon's famous line; they are "colouring an inexistent democracy". WELL, TO ALL THE INTERNET, LAPTOP AND COMPUTER FIGHTERS OF THE SCNC, I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK IN YOUR STRUGGLE TO LIBERATE SOUTHERN CAMEROON. I HOPE YOU FIGHT BIYA AND FRU NDI BY CRITICIZING FROM YOUR LAPTOPS. I HOPE YOU DESTROY THE DEMONS OF LA REPUBLIQUE BY WRITING COMMENTS FROM YOUR LAPTOPS IN GERMANY, HONG KONG, CHINA ETC. I HOPE YOU DON'T SHED TOO MUCH BLOOD ON THE BATTLEFIELD AS YOU FIGHT FROM THE INTERNET IN YOUR COMFORTABLE APARTMENTS. I HOPE YOU LEARN HOW YOU WILL GOVERN SOUTHERN CAMEROONS BY TYPING GOOD GOVERNANCE ON GOOGLE. SO, THE INTERNET, COMPUTER AND LAPTOP BROTHERS OF SCNC ON THE SITE, KEEP FIGHTING THE BLOODY FIGHT FROM THE INTERNET AND VICTORY WILL BE YOURS

casara

Rexon,Legima Doh,Ma mary,etc
Please don't argue with this funny name unitedstatesofAfrica.Unfortunately he's not from the Southern Cameroons.The other guys Fon and co,atleast are from the Southern Cameroons.So i think we can talk to them and make them see what is right in us building a strong,beautiful and respectable nation for the people of the Southern CAMEROONS.Please don't waste your precious time talking to this unfortunate fellow.

SDF what next?
the SCNC and the people of the Southern Cameroons awaits you.Make the right decision and follow the golden path to freedom.

rexon

Casara,

I will talk to brother Fon and Watesih. I am convinced they will join the right movement. I have already ignored this guy.

Cheers.

Legima Doh

Unitedstateofafrica,

It was expected for you to come up with your own bid to criticise me.We welcome meaningful criticism but are not bothered by those that come from mediocricy.If you and Fru Ndi have been clinging to deception because you want to be remembered,it means you people put self gratification by recognition and rememberance in front of liberation of the populace.I know pretty well you are beaten by the fact that you cannot stand my criticisms.You also demonstrate idiocy by your inability to understand all the clear and simple answers I have been giving to your naive questions.If not for the fact that we embark on a highscale sensitisation campaign,I would ignore you as a nincompoop.
Hear you,dont just say Fru Ndi has failed and Southern cameroons should break away from their own country.So you acknowledge Fru Ndi's failure but that it should not just be said Southern cameroons should break away from their own country.Fru Ndi did well in the beginning,yes,he had some good faith,yes,but now he has clung to deception and illusion,yes,and that we dont want any illusion,yes.And what do you mean to their own country here?Southern cameroon is not breaking from neither la Republique nor the Southern cameroons.It is not an integral part of La Republique and is not breaking from it but is for the restoration for its statehood and sovereignty and thereby asking the occupational forces of La republique to leave.It is also not breaking from the Southern Cameroons as this voilates common sense.I hope you can see how feeble your reasoning and knowledge are.You are neither a good analysist nor a good critique.You've got no savoir faire here.

Yes it takes more than words to complete a task but the greatest and all acccomplishments started by a thought,then words and then action.Our words are matched by our actions.We have made mention about a lot of our actions home and abroad several times.We say words of truth and act on them.About the challenges that a nation faces,its you who've got no idea of the socioeconomic,political challenges that are common to any natiion.It is not because of the fear of what is imminent that our true movement should be aborted.If you had a bit of knowledge,you would see that as far as liberation as at now is concerned for the Southern Cameroonians, the Sdf party politics in la republic is a vain glory for itself.We are also not living in the past glories of the Sdf but on the present situation and for the future.If you were not terribly bias as you claim your independence audit stance on the sdf and the SCNC,you would have seen objectivity in the SCNC and acknowledge what SDf did that is of good faith in the antique time and that given the situation now,her ideology is an illusion and not the sublime course for the liberation of the Southern Cameroons.

God instill little understanding in people and save the course and that they may stop living in the past and live in the present,work on it with all reasonableness and truth and wait for the future with a manly and optimistic heart.

Thanks to comrade Rexon,Ma Mary,Mk the Southerner,Dadiceman and especially Casara for wise counsel.I promise to ignore unitestatesofafrica unless otherwise for a good reason.

Peace Shall Reign!

Legima Doh,
SCNC

Legima Doh


Dear Comrades and proud people of the Southern cameroons of this forum,I want to cease this opportunity to state that,the person under the pseudoname unitedstatesofafrica has proved beyond reasonable doubt that he is an alien enemy of the successful statehood of the Southern Cameroons.In accordance with the counsel of comrade Casara, he is declared excommunicated from our consideration and comments.He is concluded to be a nincompoop.

In accordance with the counsel of comrade Rexon,we send an august invitation to Fon and Watesih and our other brethren to our congregation for the total liberation of the Southern Cameroons and restoration of her statehood and sovereignty through the aegis of the grand Southern Cameroons National Council.

Peace!

Legima Doh,
SCNC

Francis/Germany

My dear people, here i come again.But this time around i would like to speak in simple language and avoid statistics everyone knows. How do you identify a confused person or say a person with no Agenda in a forum like this one? The answer is clear. By noticing the ammont of times he posts at a given interval and the repeatition in his posts.Defending a point brought up by someone doesn´t fall under this catigory. There is still one thing i am expecting to read from all of you strongly behind the SCNC and that is : What is your plan? How do you plan to gain this independence? Don´t pour any thrash here if you can´t answer these questions. let me tell you why Biya has succeeded. He doesn´t need to rig elections because he has alredy succeeded in white washing your brains and keeping you away from voting.As i earlier said in one of my posts on a different topic. You might have the right ideas but so long as your implementation is wrong, you would always be wrong. George Bush does not necessarily have bad ideas but his way of implementing his solutions is definitely not the best. We all agree that our country definitely needs change. But the question is which is the better or say best solution? Secession is definitely not the best because it is simply too complex and there are many things at stake: human life, chaos, and just to name a few. I give you the first task: unite the Northwesterners and southwesteners then you can start thinking of the second step. On the other hand if we acted intelligently and surprised the CPDM by coming out massively like in 1990 and voting, we would leave atleast an impact. Cameroon without the SDF and Cameroon with the SDF is not thesame country. You supporting the SCNC, you actually have brilliant ideas but your method of implementation is not realistic. You can´t divide cameroon because you don´t even make up 500,000 of the 18 million Cameroonians. Put up your thinking hats and lets make a change. It is now. i hope it is not too late.

rexon

Francis,

SDF plan was to decolonise the Southern Cameroons from within La Republiques politics. At least, that was the SDF's plan as we all know. Since that plan has failed and all Southern Cameroonians know that they are not citizens of that land and they can never become her president, not to take of gaining independence from within its politics, why not join us in the right movement? Except you are not a Southern Cameroonian, we created and supported this party because we thought we can bring our independence from within La Republiques politics. Immediately that plan was exposed to citizens of La Republique, the SDF has been loosing its power in their politics. Simply because they dont want a Southern Cameroonian to ever rule them. Brother, join us and lets build a truly independent Southern Cameroons, rather than mocking ourselves in a foreign land.

rexon

Landslide win for ruling party in Cameroon

July 24 2007 at 01:46AM

Yaounde - President Paul Biya's Democratic Rally of the Cameroonian People's (RDPC) party won a landslide victory in Sunday's legislative and municipal elections, according to provisional results issued late on Monday.

It grabbed at least 152 of the 180 seats in the National Assembly, compared with 149 in the outgoing parliament, the government's minister for territorial administration, Marafa Hamidou Yaya, told the press.

The main opposition Social Democratic Front (SDF) headed by John Fru Ndi was down from 22 to 14 deputies in the chamber while Adamou Ndam Njoya's Cameroonian Democratic Union won four seats, against five previously, and the Progressive Movement entered parliament with one seat.
The pro-government National Union for Democracy and Progress doubled its presence in the assembly with two seats. Seven seats must still be decided.

Seven seats must still be decided
In the municipal elections the presidential party won 303 out of 363 communes.

Cameroon's opposition earlier on Monday said "massive fraud" had marred the elections and vowed to challenge the results in court even as votes were still being counted.

Even before Sunday's vote, the opposition claimed Biya was trying to preserve his stranglehold over the west African nation at any cost.

Others, however, said the elections were far better planned than in 2002, when they had to be deferred due to poor organisation.

Jacob Beide, coordinator for a group of election observers from African non-governmental organisations, said Sunday: "Fraud attempts and fraud have been reported - at least one case of ballot box stuffing and the majority of people are voting without identity cards."

Graft is rampant in oil-rich Cameroon, with the country regularly listed as among Africa's most corrupt by Transparency International, and Biya is accused by critics of trampling on democracy and human rights.

Oil wealth has not trickled down to the millions of poor.

Biya was appointed prime minister in 1975 and has been president since 1982.

7512wilson

Well well well, from frying pan to fire it seems for the SDF. Chairman John Fru Ndi himself said "the elections have failed Cameroonians". I am not going to criticize the SDF for going in for the twin elections because i still think they did the right thing to go in. I might be wrong but this is what i am going to suggest to the SDF Party or Cameroon opposition and its leadership as a whole.

1. The leaders of the main opposition parties should leave the country on self exile and go underground.

2. They should forget about 2011 because Biya will still run and will win even with ELECAM in place.

3. They should ignite pressure from outside and possibly start seeking ways to sabotage the government and bring Paul Biya to his knees.

4. They should meet with other Cameroonian exiles and sympathetic Cameroonians abroad and start planning a revolution to free Cameroon and Cameroonians from the Hands of a Ruthless dictator.

5. They should forget about the courts because the courts will not change the results of this election, thats for sure.

6. Mbah Ndam, Yoyo and others in the SDF high ranks should leave the Country almost immediately and start gathering support from outside. This will scare the living hell out of Biya and he will probably give up and run to China or somewhere even before a revolution starts.

Thats all i can think of for now. More to come.


mk the southerner

Raxon,Ma Mary,Doh etc let us not fold our arms. Look to tell u the truth nfd has know iota of sham dont be surprise he cames up to tell fools again to prepare for the presidential elections, and that this time defend ur votes. This his anthem of defending votes.

Some people like united Africa still talk to SCNC activist referring to one Cameroon, it appears this guy does not even know what SCNC is all about. He still talk of Cameroon our country.

If anybody is still blind as to say the SCNC has know plan of action then it means the ACHPR just got up one morning and called our case with the frogs to court. The Nigerian government just got up and called the SCNC/SCAPO case to court. The UNPO just got up and called Southern Cameroons as a member state. The United Nations Human Right Council just decided to call the Vice National chair Nfor to address them just like that. The UN SEC general just got up one morning and decided to call DR Nfor for the Southern Cameroons problems etc. U must be a full after seeing all these to think that there is know plan of action.

The problem with some of u is that u look at SCNC like a political party in the frogs cage called Cameroon. This is a revolutionary movement and if u would need to know its plans get inside the union. If the plans for all these achievements named above where made known we would not have achieved all of them. For the frogs would have stopped or delayed some moves. But we who are inside enjoy it very much when we take them by surprise.

Go to the SCNC office Cow tread Bamenda for the Northern Zone where u will meet Mr Mbinglo Hidler and for the Southern Zone meet Mr Taku Sylverster. They will tell u meeting days and what rule u have to play.

My brothers and sisters we have a path we are following and there is something very very great now in the pipeline. You will hear soon and i bet u, u will be happier than myself.

God bless Southern Cameroons.
mkthesoutherner at yahoo.co.uk

Spako

Countri Pipol,

This is the latest on the BBC Website concerning the twin elections of last Sunday. My Pipol, wona tok!

Big win for Cameroon ruling party

President Paul Biya is rumoured to want another term in office
Cameroon's ruling party has won a landslide victory in last Sunday's elections, according to provisional results released late Monday.
But opposition parties allege "massive fraud" in the parliamentary and municipal polls.

The opposition also say they will challenge the results in court.

President Paul Biya's Democratic Rally of the Cameroonian People (RDPC) won at least 152 of the 180 seats in the National Assembly.

The RDPC had 149 seats in the outgoing parliament, Cameroon's minister for territorial administration, Marafa Yaya, told reporters.

Turnout among some five million registered voters was 62%, Mr Yaya said.

The opposition says the RDPC might try to use its two-thirds majority in the assembly to amend the constitution to allow Mr Biya, already head of state for 25 years, to seek a new term in 2011.

The main opposition Social Democratic Front (SDF) is down from 22 to 14 deputies in the chamber while the Cameroonian Democratic Union (CDU) lost one of the five seats it held before.

Smaller parties won a further three seats and seven remain to be decided.

In the municipal polls, the governing RDPC won 303 out of 363 communes.

"Fraud attempts and fraud have been reported - at least one case of ballot box stuffing and the majority of people are voting without identity Cards," Jacob Beide, head of an observer group told reporters at the end of voting on Sunday.

Like its western neighbour Nigeria, oil-rich Cameroon is regularly listed among Africa's most corrupt countries by Transparency International.

Critics also accuse Mr Biya of trampling on democracy and human rights.


Shalom

Hi Everyone,
I have carefully gone through the article and all what you have posted. Here are my comments:

1) Ni John Fru Ndi and Co. must realize they are being used and ridiculed by La republique to achieve and perpetrate oppression on the Cameroonian people. Can they have the guts to refuse to go to that Assembly? Of course not. When through fraud their number was reduced from 45 to 22 in 2004, those SDF members who lost the elections fraudulently advised the party to stay out of the assembly, but greedy people like the Mbah Ndams and the Yoyos could not stand seeing their MP stipend go. They thought of their interest first before the interest of the militants who were maimed and killed for them. Of what good was that?

2) WHen this same Fru Ndi bluffed at the onset of these elections and talked of defending votes, I told you on this forum that he is a traitor. He betrayed the military in 1992 that had put all in place to defend his victory. He has since betrayed more and more Cameroonians. He says they will challenge the results in court. What courts? the same courts before which they have gone all these years or there are new courts in Cameroon?

3) The SCNC has a herculean if not impossible task to unite Southern Cameroonians to see the direction they are taking and to follow especially when these self-seeking individuals are there greedy of stipends from the Assembly of la republique. It does not matter whether they come from the SDF or CPDM, they are the black legs and the real problem the SCNC has at hand. How can the 5 million or so Southern Cameroonians speak together in one loud voice that will be irresistible both within and without? Door-to-door sensitization is more required now than international campaigns. For if the international community were to come in and run a poll and find out that less than 10% know what SCNC stands for, then you will be all considered jokers.

4) SCNC should put up a government that will start defining the policies of the new country so that people should know where to address their questions. This government will be required to present these concrete policies not only to the Southern Cameroonians but to the international community and prove that they can better cater for the welfare of these poor 5 million trampled lot than what La republic and the Achidi Acus, the John Fru Ndis and the Inonis are doing.

5)Let those who have been elected to the assembly (together with those who contested but lost) boycott Yaounde and start meeting in Buea to formulate legislature and let those who are in the Diaspora commit themselves to canvassing financial support for them.

6) Let the NW and SW chiefs start having an annual or biannual come together to concretely discuss the issues affecting the populace and give their proposals to the legislature and government.

Hey Guys does that sound concrete enough to you as a way forward?
To keep it short, I will continue with this reflection next time.

Shalom

Hi Everyone,
I have carefully gone through the article and all what you have posted. Here are my comments:

1) Ni John Fru Ndi and Co. must realize they are being used and ridiculed by La republique to achieve and perpetrate oppression on the Cameroonian people. Can they have the guts to refuse to go to that Assembly? Of course not. When through fraud their number was reduced from 45 to 22 in 2004, those SDF members who lost the elections fraudulently advised the party to stay out of the assembly, but greedy people like the Mbah Ndams and the Yoyos could not stand seeing their MP stipend go. They thought of their interest first before the interest of the militants who were maimed and killed for them. Of what good was that?

2) WHen this same Fru Ndi bluffed at the onset of these elections and talked of defending votes, I told you on this forum that he is a traitor. He betrayed the military in 1992 that had put all in place to defend his victory. He has since betrayed more and more Cameroonians. He says they will challenge the results in court. What courts? the same courts before which they have gone all these years or there are new courts in Cameroon?

3) The SCNC has a herculean if not impossible task to unite Southern Cameroonians to see the direction they are taking and to follow especially when these self-seeking individuals are there greedy of stipends from the Assembly of la republique. It does not matter whether they come from the SDF or CPDM, they are the black legs and the real problem the SCNC has at hand. How can the 5 million or so Southern Cameroonians speak together in one loud voice that will be irresistible both within and without? Door-to-door sensitization is more required now than international campaigns. For if the international community were to come in and run a poll and find out that less than 10% know what SCNC stands for, then you will be all considered jokers.

4) SCNC should put up a government that will start defining the policies of the new country so that people should know where to address their questions. This government will be required to present these concrete policies not only to the Southern Cameroonians but to the international community and prove that they can better cater for the welfare of these poor 5 million trampled lot than what La republic and the Achidi Acus, the John Fru Ndis and the Inonis are doing.

5)Let those who have been elected to the assembly (together with those who contested but lost) boycott Yaounde and start meeting in Buea to formulate legislature and let those who are in the Diaspora commit themselves to canvassing financial support for them.

6) Let the NW and SW chiefs start having an annual or biannual come together to concretely discuss the issues affecting the populace and give their proposals to the legislature and government.

Hey Guys does that sound concrete enough to you as a way forward?
To keep it short, I will continue with this reflection next time.

shiningstar

maybe our dear country needs to upgrade to electronic voting and then we can have free and fair elections. After every elections, there is always trouble, fights here and there. We kill our own brothers and sisters without looking to see who the main person/enemy is. We all know why people support CPDM, because they want to be eating free money and using the country's funds to make themselves rich. Why do people go to opposition parties? Because they want another opportunity, they want their voices heard. The questions we need to ask ourselves are," do we really want change? and if we do, why not team up as one big opposition party and fight against the CPDM? Teaming up here, will mean we are fighting for a common goal and course. As a southern Cameroonian, I believe to avoid all the conflicts we need to come as one and as southern Cameroonians not as SDF or ADP or whatever.We need one voice not many voices. Many voices will be like throwing water on a ducks back. common people, Do NOT FIGHT AMONG YOURSELVES, lest the common enemy will watch you and laugh and say; "look at those fools. They are fighting and arguing and killing themselves while I am enjoying their money."

Ernest

Rexon, legima Doh, ma Mary and the rest of scnc members on this forum, I salute you guys. You guys were right with your prediction on the outcome of the results of the twin elections. We of the sdf (particularly me), is not rejecting scnc ideologies but how can we be talking of sessesion when almost all our chiefs have been bought upon by biya. You saw how they were all campanyig for biya in the just passed election. How can we be talking about our own independence when the prime minister of la republique is anglophone (second in command), when 3/4 of the anglophone populations are not in support. how can we be talking of separation when biya has successfully turned anglophones angainst fellow anglophones. A southwesterner is looking at a northerner as a settler. A stranger in his own country. If scnc has to succeed, we first of all have to get the tradictioner rulers to their senses. With that, we can be able to reach its subjects . As for the sdf, my advise is that they should just stay out of biya's parliament. There is nothing they can do that will cause any impact in the parliament. Is a shame for cameroonians expecially those that carried on multiple voting in the election.

Fon

7512wilson,
I agree with some of your points and strongly disagree with many of them. I consider it absolute nonsense for Ni John Fru Ndi to be talking about going to court to contest the out come of the elections. I also buy the point that the SDF should forget about the 2011 presidential elections.
Every other point you mentioned concerning strategies to bring pressure on Biya does not make sense to me. Why do you think the SDF should continue the struggle for change in Cameroon? Do you really think Cameroonians want change? Do you see Cameroonians as people clamoring for change? From every indication, Cameroonians are satisfied with the present status quo. I no longer blame Biya for what is unfolding in that country; I blame but the dormant citizens. On the other hand I may be wrong for aportioning blame on the citizens whom I think are suffering, but in reality they are satisfied and are blaming those of us who want change.

I will continue to respect Mr.Fru Ndi for the fight he has put up till this moment but the people have failed him; he remains a great man. My personal opinion is that if I were Ni John Fru Ndi, this will be the time for me to resign from politics. There is no need to continue to fight for people who do not see why you should fight for them.

Shalom, you must be an idealist of the first order or simply lack the critical mind to discern what is happening in your own country.
"Let the NW and SW chiefs start having an annual or biannual come together to concretely discuss the issues affecting the populace and give their proposals to the legislature and government."

Which chiefs are you talking about? Is there any chief in the NW and SW who tells you that he is not satisfied with the present situation? You must be reasoning just like Rexon, Legima Doh, ... and ....

Really not in the mood to say much.

rexon

Fon,

NJFN let the people down by dining with the enemy and not the other way round. I am coming with a detailed analysis of the situation. How was your campaign trip to Cameroon?

rexon

Fon,

Enough of your ramblings. You said, the elections would be free and fair. Now you are complaining. You said you wanted to protect democracy, now you are complaining. You went for the democracy knowing the rules, now you are blaming the people.

It was business to colour a democracy. If the business no longer provide substantial returns, stay quiet. You were defending your democracy two days ago, now you are blaming thesame people. Fon, i am not an apologists. I stand for the truth no matter the pressure. The SDF leadership was going in for the elections because of one things: GREED. The henchmen of the party dining with Biya thought they will win in Bamenda and have the chance to continue receiving funds from the regime in return for colouring their democracy. Now, the people have turned against them and have all joined the SCNC. They have asked them to fight alone, since they are chopping and not considering the masses.

You, Feli, Atangha, Watesih, where is the democracy? I urge you to come out of your slumber. Anything created on falsehood can never prosper. You were supporting falsehood because you did'nt want to accept the truth and was benefitting at the expense of the masses. where is the results?

rexon

Leadership and difference
Evangelist Myles Munroe (Munroe, 2006) [14] defines leadership as “The ability to influence others through inspiration, generated by a passion, motivated by a vision, produced by a conviction, birth by a purpose.” Unfortunately, and to agree with Munroe, most characters passing around for leaders in Africa fall short of all of the above terms of reference. Where there is no vision and inspiration, manipulation sets in. Mr. Paul Biya, president of La Republique du Cameroun, is a professional manipulator. The man can only manipulate elections, manipulate people, divide and rule, and preside over corruption. Development is not his thing.
When Mr. Biya was asked what his vision for Cameroun is, the man says, “I have Grand Ambitions for Cameroon.” When asked to translate “Grand Ambitions” into bread, the man remains vague and boot faced. The man’s disciples have used their own blindness to attempt putting flesh to Mr. Biya’s dry bones. In vain.
When Mr. Biya was asked what he expected from the elections (which he has rigged), the man said he expected his party to garner a give him a vast majority to continue the policies he has commenced. Which policies? The artistic miasma of corruption, election-fraud, incompetence and Grand Ambitions, naturally.
On Election Day, July 22, Mr. Biya also intimated in an interview with CRTV that he expected other Cameroonians (of the opposition) to join his administration. Blind man leading the blind. So goes the leader, so goes the organization.
For 25 years in power, Mr. Biya has proven that he has neither the desire nor the will to expand his knowledge base. La Republique and its regime cannot give what they do not have. Why then should Southern Cameroonians; people having different knowledge base, people trained in a different perception of public life and people with a different set of values continue along this path to the precipice? Therefore, an unknown quantity is leading you to an unknown place called Grand Ambitions. And you are trundling behind him like a goat to the market? God forbid. Myles Munroe says it is illegal (a sin) to lead people to nowhere. The leader you follow will determine your destination.
Rather than inspire people, a man anchored on miasma and fumes of “Grand Ambitions” can only be a manipulator. Grand Ambition is out a vision, neither is it an inspiration. Instead, the slogan comes from the profound darkness of a hollow mind and a dark spirit. Would you submit your time, energy, life to a thing called “Grand Ambitions?”
Managers maintain. Leaders lead. Managers are concerned about keeping the status quo. Leaders innovate. Mr. Biya is not even a manager for a manager would, at least, be a boutiquier who knows how to sustain a village provision store. Mr. Biya has proven that he is a neither a leader nor a manager. Same for Mr. Fru Ndi, the head of Cameroon’s leading opposition party, who confuses the maintenance of his own stomach and personal provision store with that of the SDF.

Conclusion
We have seen that contemporary Cameroon is composed of a two nation-states living within defined boundaries. They are the state of Southern Cameroons and the state of La Republique du Cameroun. Although proponents of a unitary-uniformist state and those who support successive attempts to obliterate the minority state for the benefit of the majority would wish for the contrary, the fact is that the Southern Cameroons nation-state is rather enduring. Southern Cameroonians know it as a fact that the hegemonistic paranoia of the Francophone led, invented sustained regime in Yaounde must be halted for a very good reason. Allowing Francophones and their regime to be rampant would only mean the acceptation and the spread of corruption, fraud, thievery as well as other intoxicating, viral and hence catching tares and more. For one thing, Southern Cameroons, founded within internationally defined and recognized real and symbolic boundaries, was never anchored on the same pattern of norms, customs and values. At best, the socio-political dispensation of Southern Cameroons had inbuilt checks and balances to guarantee that such deviant attitudes are sanctioned wherever they are found.
Stalinist nationalist systems, national unity, the linear thought, national integration modules (as extant in Yugoslavia and the former Soviet Union), are dead. The focus is now on the last bastions of Stalinism – African dictatorships. It is a matter of causality but the same causes will produce the same effects. If Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union proved to humankind that a “multinational” coalition of disperse and disparate peoples cannot be held together for ever by force, but must lifer fragment along the original foundation lines, then the world is witnessing the dying throes of a major bastion of dictatorship and the revival of an ancient state.
Since 1972, the date of a contentious referendum to obliterate Southern Cameroons, rather than knuckling under, Southern Cameroons “difference” values, nationalism are rather on the ascendancy. It is just a matter of time before that buoyancy translates into implosion.

UnitedStatesofAfrica


"I want to cease this opportunity to state that,the person under the pseudoname unitedstatesofafrica has proved beyond reasonable doubt that he is an alien enemy of the successful statehood of the Southern Cameroons.In accordance with the counsel of comrade Casara, he is declared excommunicated from our consideration and comments.He is concluded to be a nincompoop"
-Legima Doh

Well, I am satisfied with the decision made by the self-proclaimed president of the SCNC in the postnewsline.com and his wise counsel of intelligent members. It would be complete folly for me to argue with old fathers like you who make childish comments like the aforementioned Legima Doh comment. Now that I have been ignored by the deceptive internet fighters of the SCNC, I could lay my arguments without interruptions.


Well, I am satisfied with the decision made by the self-proclaimed president of the SCNC in the postnewsline.com and his wise counsel of intelligent members.

M Nje

Fon,
Oh yes blame the people. Your chairman has never been responsible for anything. There is always someone else to blame when things good wrong. Someone except Mr. Chairman.

If the people did not met your expectations, it is because of one thing: failed leadership. These very people you blame have made many sacrifice in the 1990. It is a shame that now they are responsible for a total lack of vision and sound judgement in your S.D.F.

Here is what Mr. Biya has succeeded to do in the past and it has work. I have said it here and will repeat it again. IN POLITICS PERCEPTION IS REALITY. Biya has succeeded to cast a doubt in your S.D.F. in the minds of the people. He has continuous and succeeded to narrow any differences in the public perception of the C.P.D.M. and the S.D.F. He does this by funding your campaign and providing other incentives. When he does that, it is always broadcast to show that the S.D.F. militants are just as hungry as those in his C.P.D.M.

As a result the people has seen the true colors of the characters in your S.D.F. They no longer see any difference between the two parties.

You have always hang on the argument that your S.D.F. is popular and the elections are always rigged. Now is the time to test that popularity. Let your leaders call for another "ghost town operation' similar to that of the 1990s. Let us see the response to what you call popularity.

Any organization that fails to hold its leaders accountable for obvious mistake and misjudgement is working towards the path to failure.

The truth is that the people you are trying to blame here want change and want it now. They have no affection for the C.P.D.M. Unfortunately they cannot find a vehicle for change in your S.D.F. As a result, they are demonized, and see no need to take to the poll.

It is incomprehensible that your party can complaint about the conduct of the election. Are those complaining living in Mars. Did you not know the rules before you went in. The truth is that the campaign funds were so tempting that it was hard to stay away. Well, that is what you get when you take part in a falsehood. Because the truth is that any ballot boxes brought to our land from La Republique is a falsehood. Whether you like it or not, your party is on a free fall. “Historical records” is were it belongs. It has been living on borrowed time.

It is now time for an all out internal conflict within your path. I can see one camp demanding for new leadership and another desiring to join Biya`s government. Those are the challenges that your party will have to face in the near and distance future.

If this moment does not serve as an eye opener to many then I wonder when it will ever do. Southern Cameroonians should wake up and face the truth: we have no business in La Republique. I can tell you that many in your party are now having that sentiment.

If you are not hoping for 2011 presidential election then what is next? What will your party be doing from now to then and beyond?

DaDiceman

"Fru Ndi Says Elections Have Failed"? Surprise, surprise! We could have written this headline 6 months ago.

Worse still, did I hear Fru Ndi is going to go to court because of the result? Which court? In La Republique du Cameroun? To be presided over by Biya-appointed corrupt judges? Is this Fru Ndi delusional, naive or playing dumb? Jesus Christ, when will these people learn? Surely, nobody can be this dumb. The sooner Fru Ndi realises he is a foreigner trying to be president in another country, the sooner a lot of things will start making sense to him, and he can stop making an absolute idiot of himself and his followers. Whatever money he has received from France and Biya cannot really be worth making himself a laughing stock to any Cameroonian who is half in touch with reality in this French colony.

Fon

"Now, the people have turned against them and have all joined the SCNC." (Rexon?

Rexon, what facts to you have to back the point that the people have all joined the SCNC. Is that not lying your ownself? If the people have all joined the SCNC, then you should be celebrating that you have won. Use just civil disobedient to achieve your goal if you think the people are now with the SCNC.

Who does not know that since yesterday, you and cohorts are celebrating the victory of your party, the CPDM?

The failure of the SDF as a result of rigging has no direct impact on me as an individaul. All along I genuinely thought that our country needs change; I tried my best to contribute towards this change. On the contrary, I am now convinced that Cameroonians are satisfied with the status quo. The youths who we thought were the most affected by the corrupt regime in power were instead the ones who did so much the facilitate the rigging.

M Nje, I can at least read something from your posting above. It is not as childish and with lack of foresight compare to what I read from Rexon and Legima Doh. However, there is one crucial thing which is not clear from you contribution due to your mixed up of political issues and your SCNC wahala. Are the people no longer interested in the SDF because the SDF has not joined the SCNC? If the people cannot find a vehicle for change in the S.D.F., yet they are yearning for change, you can´t tell me that all the political parties in Cameroon lack a vehicle for change. The simple truth is that the people don´t see why they should fight for change.

You blame the SDF for taking part in the elections, if you were in the position to take a decision in the SDF, what would you have done? What would have been the impact if the SDF boycotted? And what would have been the way forward?

"As a result the people has seen the true colors of the characters in your S.D.F. They no longer see any difference between the two parties."
I strongly disagree with the above statement; I still hold that Cameroonians have surrendered their faith to destiny. If Cameroonians have seen the true colors of the SDF as you claimed, and are not satisfied by the present status quo, why can´t they fight for change throw another party? Do you ever bother to ask yourself why break away factions from the SDF have hardly survived?

M Nje, take it or leave it, I want to assure you that the very problems the opposition is facing due to a surrendered and dormant population will be the same thing the SCNC will face today if they want to rally the people. Let the SCNC try to rally the people and let see the out come.

"If you are not hoping for 2011 presidential election then what is next?"
I already mentioned that if I were Ni John Fru Ndi, I will resign from politics; it does make sense to keep fighting for people who see nothing at stake.I see this as the best he can do. In my case, I will be taking a personal decision in the coming days.

Legima Doh

Proud people of the Southern Cameroons,I salute comrades Ernest,Mk the Southerner,Rexon,Dadiceman,Ma Mary,Shalom,Spako,Shiningstar,M Nje,7512Wilson.I have meticulously gone through the comments posted after the twin elections and am glad to say that,the elections have been another eye opener to our people.It has unearthed the truth of the fact that involvement in La Republique party politics is a sham.Its is scandalous for some of us who supposed to be abreast with all whats going on in the SCNC to come up everyday asking for the plan of action,goals,this and that of the SCNC.We must unleash ourselves out of prejudice,preconceived misconceptions and so on.We should not fix our minds on disbelief especially on things that clearly are seen.Seeing is believing.Myself,Rexon,Ernest,Shalom,MK the Southerner,Ma Mary,Tagro have time and time again, elucidate on the plan of action of the SCNC,her modus operandi,her achievements,recognition and so on.I refer all those whose contribution here is to repeat this question everyday to my comments on Fru Ndi takes the Southwest by storm,response to Fon on the plan of action of the SCNC.So now,those who were still held sway by the Sdf agenda have at least come to the truth , it is overt clear that it is just a way used by la Republique to market herself abroad and then make a foe of the people.Ni Fru who was once so venerated has losed a handsome amount of his reputation by adhering to La Republique party politics.Its saddening for him to be used as such as an object of ridicule.He has been terribly ridiculed by Mr Biya that we feel shamed.Instead of adamantly refusing to accept the truth about the plight of our nation and its ultimate and unequivocal solution,lets be honest human beigns to acknowledge whats real.I met a lot of Southern Cameroonians this week after the tentative results came out and all of them were disgruntled by the SDF.Its time we became united in purpose and destiny which is based on the Unconditional (ie without strings attached to la Republique)and Total liberation and restoration of the sovereignty and statehood of the Southern Cameroon.Experience itself and time which is the best teacher have proved beyond reasonable doubt that this cannot be achieved from within La Republique.

Fon, it is too simplistic for you to declare all what I have been surmising here ,together with those of our comrades as childish.But if from your definition childishness adheres to truth and reality which we advocate for and maturity adheres to falsehood and illusions,then it is time we reversed the definitions.we dont want to remain a laughing stock by seeing our fathers being used like wrapping pappers.Remember I said before as confirmed by comrade Ernest that the election results were foreknown and that we would use the results as yet another reason why any involvement in La Republique party politics is an obscurity and is also vain.The outcome augurs a bleak future for the Southern Cameroonians by adhering to the enemy state.

The only way forward for Southern Cameroonians is to fight for the future of their motherland under the aegis of the grand Southern Cameroons National Council.Its warm and welcoming there and everyone is welcome aboard the train to freedom.Hurray,Hurray.

The truth shall Prevail and then Peace!

Legima Doh,
SCNC

Spako

Fon,
Politicians must be forward thinking. In the case of the SDF, either they lack proper technical advisers or the leadership fails to listen to them. What makes you think Cameroonians are dormant? Is it not thess same Cameroonians who braved everything during the lunching of the SDF and Operation Villes Mortes? Have you so quickly forgotten that these same Cameroonians ran street battles with the Army and Security Forces of Cameroon?
Where it not these same Cameroonians who caught grenades to protect their leaders especially Fru Ndi of the SDF? In so doing many lost their arms and livelihood.
Have you bothered to asked yourself what has become of these brave Cameroonians you now shamelessly term dormant?
Opportunity comes once in your lifetime. You either grab it or let it go past you.
That is what happened to the SDF in very early 90's, after the presidential election.
But lack of foresight and possible naivity on the part of the SDF, meant the loss of a golden opportunity.
Biya has since consolidated his position,
and in so doing, dragged the SDF and its leadership into the whole muddy, shaddy and often deadly politics of chop a chop.
SDF has sent members to parliament and ran councils. What has been the differences between SDF run councils and that CPDM ones?
What has SDF Parliamentarians done with Grants for Microfinance? Atleast the CPDM has got a yardstick to measure and compare with the SDF. SDF paliamentarians like their CPDM counterparts have accumulated vast wealth and contracts.
So donot be surprised when they loss seats even in the Northwest Province, an SDF stronghold. Donot tell me about rigging in the NWP. People get fed up with unproductive politics. The SDF epitomizes that. Apart from the SDF Leaders, SDF Parliamentarians and their henchmen, what has the ordinary mami or papa on the streets of Bamenda or Douala gained. Life is becoming unbearable. Like Biya and his cohorts, Fru Ndi and his cohorts drive in the biggest 4x4's, while the population wallow in pain.
My advice to the SDF: As the main Opposition party in Cameroon, let your 14 or so parliamentarians boycott parliament and any councils worn. Engage in a total offensive, both nationally and internationally to bring the Biya regime to its knees. Otherwise, you will only be seen as being part of the system.
Many people donot even know that Cameroon has got English Speakers.
So you either join the system or fight against it. Take it or leave it!

casara

Read this article bellow people especially those SDF aspirant who don't aspire any more.May God show y'all the right path which is SCNC,SCAPO etc.

From "minority" to "strangers" in the Land of our Fathers.

In a Reuters report of Tue 24 Jul 2007, 12:35 GMT, titled
Biya's party routs opposition in Cameroon election, by Tansa Musa
at this source:
http://africa. reuters.com/ wire/news/ usnL24753887. html
SDF Chairman, Sir John Fru Ndi, is described as,
"Fru Ndi, the main political leader from the Anglophone minority, ..."

And that is where we have been. Is this where we shall ever be?
... Described as a "minority", in a clearly illegal context?
Massa, what kind of badluck put us and our children in this mess?

Once you are a minority in a "communist-type" regime,
you have little or no hope for any positive change in your status quo.
Is this where we hand over the baton to our children? At a dead end in
ngolaland? Where do the children go from here? Answer: Nowhere?

If someone has a better answer, I would love to know.

The other option is to take the necessary steps to get back our
rightfully legal statehood, and then fashion a lifestyle of our own
where we are not referred to as "minority". How can one wake up in the
morning, take a stroll the Yang stream (Djva Yang)*, to have a heart
cooling drink, and then come back to the 3 corners just to be harassed
by a duo of red hat gendarmes and called a "minority" at the same
time. "Minority" of what? An illegally constituted Camerounese
Republique? Ruled or misruled by someone who is not even a native of
the said republique?

Yes, for those who do not know, one of Mr. Biya's parents is not even
Camerounese. Even Ahidjo, was not totally Camerounese - find out why
Camerouneses can travel into Mali without any entry visa.

As if the badluck does not end, we all have gotten caught up in the
brasseraic cloud of this nonsensical trip that Foncha and co
put us in. One that is slowly decimating our people, as one by one,
they do the slow Chong* dance to their graves.

Soon, we might not even have access to land to bury our dead. From
"minority", we shall be transmutated to "strangers" in our own
ancestral lands. If the ancestors are asleep, it might be time that
they wake up else we'd not stop drumming, hitting and clanging of
pots, pans and anything we find that can disturb their peace. They'd
know no peace until we and our children find peace and become
"majority" in the land of our birth.

Blessings
~wanaku

* Djva yang is a sacred stream in Kom
* Chong is a dance performed by initiated members of an adult male
group in Kom.

faarman

SCNC Bull shit
Someone made a good statement a time ago requesting Raxon and his sheep battalion on this forum aim to at uniting the North and South West provinces before talking of any division. If I remember very well, the southern Cameroons they are talking of will be made up of these two provinces and how will we do that when the devil has eaten deep into our hearts.

I wonder why you guys are focusing on the SDF mean while more than ¾ of the true inhabitants of southern Cameroons are giving 100% victory to the CPDM. There is clear evidence that the two provinces have divided Ideas. How can you explain the 100% victory of the twin elections from the south west? Participating could be a stronger reason for the exposure of the inefficiency of democracy in cameroon. Therefore don’t concentrate on sabotaging the SDF, but try to pull the southern Cameroonians from the CPDM to join the struggle.
I think I better be with the opposition than with these bandits. I am forced to think that the people perpetrating this SCNC bull shit are connivers with the bandits to disrupt the functioning of the opposition system in that fatherland. I wonder what would happen if the elections where boycotted, it would simple give 100% of the votes from the whole country to the CPDM. Electoral fraud has been a talk of the day for decades, the international community has heard all that crap, and they know there is no democracy in Cameroon. What have they done? It is not boycotting elections that will mean something to them or that will change anything.

You have read already how the international media are acknowledging electoral fraud. What do you think they will do? Cameroon has already been declared a monarch regardless of whether the SDF participated in the elections or not.

Take note that there are more than a 100 parties in Cameroon and SDF taking part or not does not keep the other parties out from taking part. When you vomit nasty wards about the SDF taking part in the elections and promoting Biya’s in existing democracy, you should also ask why the other parties are taking part. The people you need to convince in joining this aimless ambition of yours are not found in the SDF now. They have all moved to the CPDM. Please chase them there and live the SDF alone
Wake up

Ma Mary

Some foreign powers, such as the UK really love this piece of pathetic theater that the Camerounese Biya govt plays once in a while and calls elections. They want to do everything to mask the fact that they sold the Southern Cameroons into slavery.
SEE:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/191676/British-Cameroons-Independence-Mismanaged

But, they are going to listen and the struggle is going to turn around. Even the impatient people, who cannot stand for what is right but want instant gratification will come around. The first step in any revolution is sensitization and it can take a while to revolutionize the minds of people.

The problem with the SDF approach is that it gives false hopes to some, that justice would be achieved soon within la republique and that a Southern Cameroonian will rule Yaounde. Even if it could happen, but it is not desirable.

Two great things have happened for the struggle with this election outcome:

1) There is going to be a great influx of disillusioned SDFers to the real Southern Cameroons cause. We welcome them home with open arms.

2) CPDM now has absolute control of la Republique's parliament and the vast majority of council and mayoral seats. Fantastic, because CPDM cannot deliver and when they fail, there would be no one to blame. That is also good for the cause of the Southern Cameroons.

Thanks for rigging.

Spako

Faarman,

If Cameroon has already been declared a monarchy, and its citizens are in much pain, it is the duty of the main opposition party the SDF to rally its people and flush out the Monarchs. Joining the monarchy in Parliament or running some of its councils,will be seen as being part of the system enslaving its people. SDF has been to parliament and they understan you cannot beat the system by playing with them. Except there is some reason that the people donot know. I personally think its time the SDF overhauls its approach of doing politics with the present political dispensation in Cameroon.
Sorry, there is no reason being emotional here. Its about a Country, its people and their future. If the main opposition party cannot cause the ruling government to change its ways by political means, then they need to start reviewing other options and quickly too, before frustration catches up with everyone on the Country.
I said before here on this forum that time is a wonderful Judge and it seems its passing judgement on the SDF, albeit negatively. And its not good for Cameroon!
When the international community cry fowl play in African elections, what do African politicians do? They offer messages of congratulations to their dubious mates.
And did Fru Ndi not offer such congratulations to Yar Adua of Nigeria, after the charade that took place there in the name of elections.
Do you see the importance of credibility and consistency in politics?

DaDiceman

Faarman, why is the SDF the topic of discussion here? Because of the Post report which states, and I quote: "SDF National Chairman, John Fru Ndi, has described the 2007 polls as an exercise in futility, saying the elections failed even before they began".

That's why there is talk about the SDF here. A lot of people will criticise a party, and its leader who behave, like a 5 year old by asking for the ball back after losing a football game. He knew the rules of game and the referee of the game he was taking part in, so don't cry foul when you lose. The other 99 parties (your figures) are not crying foul, we respect them for that; they are good losers. Nobody respects a bad loser.

rexon

All of us have seen how the SDF have crumbled, after being used by La Republique to color its democracy over the years in the eyes of the international community. While most of us will want to distance ourselves from all her activities, we might have things to learn from their recent demise. The SDF was created by us in a bid to influence the same struggle we are engaged in now. So the failure and embarrassment of the SDF has something in the closure that seems constricting rather than enabling. It is possible that it infiltrates into our organization, because as far as I know, remnants of the SDF are now lining up to engage into our struggle. While some will come in good faith to work with us, others would either import the bad habits they learnt during their days with La Republique and the SDF or would be spies and agents sent by La Republique. While i hope the SDF must have learnt some good lessons over the years, i hope they take a deep and rethink their vision, mission and objectives again.

My opinion is that, Mr. Biya’s next strategy would be clearly on how to influence public perception on our struggle and weaken us. As things stand, the SCNC now remains La Republique biggest worry. They would surely be making plans to do the following.

1: invest huge sums of money to national and international media to soil our reputation.
2: immobilize fear, cause petty problems, bickering days, where we would spend time arguing rather than designing proper strategies to oust the regime, etc.
3: Finally, they will try to create factions of the Southern Cameroons cause either within its current leadership or in new groups that might end up betraying us.

So what do we do? My feeling is that, good people can still create a bad organization and bad administration. Maybe because they might have failed to take advantage of opportunities presented to them and gets rid of greedy decisions. I understand the secrets of success of an organization like ours are many, but let’s sometimes understand that, we must be fundamentally compatible in that, we are all fighting in good faith for the freedom of our land. We must struggle to create a good working relationship in the outset with the different units working for the common good, before constructively criticizing their plan of actions. We must at times be tolerant with each others views and foibles, avoid embarrassing ourselves with unrealistic comments and arguments, etc. By tolerance I mean, each and every unit fighting for the course should not underestimate the activities of the other. But should struggle to guide and direct them in good faith.

Although many might not like to hear this, I believe the biggest problem we have in our struggle is the thought that many are using this struggle to gain political asylum for themselves and their families without any commitment to our course. And on the other hand, because of greed, some members of our administration prefer to issue affidavits rather than carefully scrutinizing them to understand if they are genuine followers of the course. I don’t want to elaborate on this topic as it might bring a whole new debate, but let’s reflect upon it as I am afraid, that might be where our downfall might come.

Unfortunately there are limits to all these and what we can actually do. Above all, let’s be prayerful and hope the almighty God guides us.

More to follow.

rexon

Long live the SCNC.

7512wilson

I still have plenty of respect for Fru Ndi but i do have to admit that he has had some shortcomings and maybe should have done one or two things differently. Fru Ndi in my opinion has been very careful not to draw the nation into a civil war and that has cost him and the SDF party a great deal. Right now the SDF Party is faced with a dilemma and any decision they take will determine the future of Cameroon Politics. Staying out of Parliament in my opinion will be the best option and could cast a serious doubt on the Biya Administration both domestically and in the international community. That will make Biya very uncomfortable and could eventually result in a rift among the CPDM high ranks. The final result will be that Cameroon's future will became very unpredictable and that will send chills into Biya and his co host. The SDF should go underground and possible start a network with the Cameroonian exiles and sympathizers abroad to seek other options of bringing the Biya Administration to its kneels.
Thats what i think for now but then again just my opinion.

rexon

7512Wilson,

I think you have great ideas. But i think the SDF last hope is to declare openly for the Southern Cameroons course and forget about anything La Republique. That is what is best for them.

rexon

Cameroon’s Opposition to Challenge Sunday’s Election
By Peter Clottey
Washington
23 July 2007

Clottey's interview With Opposition Leader John Fru Ndi
Listen to Clottey's interview With Opposition Leader John Fru Ndi


Cameroon’s main opposition Social Democratic Front (SDF) says it will file a protest Monday to the country's electoral commission to dispute Sunday’s parliamentary and municipal elections. This comes after the SDF alleged widespread rigging and bribery during Sunday’s voting. But the ruling Cameroon People's Democratic Movement (CPDM) dismissed the oppositions claim as baseless and without merit.

John Fru Ndi is the chairman of the main opposition SDF. From Bamenda, about 350 kilometers outside the capital, Yaoundé he tells reporter Peter Clottey that there were several reports of multiple voting for the ruling party across the country.

“The elections were rigged right from the beginning where the president called the electorates and he had to come back to start creating constituencies without having the results of the census. So these constituencies were cupped in a way that was punishing to the people instead of serving the people. And the day that they gave for the people to close filing in the documents, when they found out that his party the CPDM had not filed in their own documents they had to postpone that day for a week,” Fru Ndi said.

He said monies that were asked from aspiring parliamentary candidates were exorbitant.

“The monies that they had to take… for parliament and council, parliament rose from 50,000 francs to 500,000 [about $100 to $1,000]. And in this country that is a highly indebted poor country, how did he expect people to get this money? So these irregularities first disenfranchised the people, now they said they were computerizing the registration, we noticed that in Santa, for instance, the first list that came out, which people saw their names they were happy, at the polling station they saw but a different list with different names,” he said.

Fru Ndi said although the opposition anticipated vote rigging, it decided to participate in Sunday’s elections to make people aware of potential problems.

“Yes, but you are drawing the attention; the commonwealth came in trying to regularize it, and a couple of other international organizations. The foreign embassies here tried to intervene to let Mr. Biya come out with free fair and transparent elections. And if we didn’t go into it, they were going to make things look very free and fair that they would say, look, this is what we are doing and the opposition has refused. But because we go (went) in, they tightened up. This is what we are talking about,” Fru Ndi noted.

He said his party has taken note of what he described as overwhelming voter irregularities and would soon be challenging the election results.

“Well, we are writing down our reports; we’ve taken notes of all illegalities. If the exam papers are seen the day before the exam, it means that the exams have been rigged or leaked out, and they don’t’ regard them…but Cameroon being what it is, no matter how hard we try, the international community would come in to say okay let us manage it and see how we improve on [it]. You improving on rigging and stealing and all the likes,” he said.

Fru Ndi blamed the international community for giving excuses when it has the opportunity to correct election irregularities in Cameroon each time the opportunity presented itself.

“When we draw the attention of the international community to all these illegalities and irregularities, they talk to you about sovereignty. But when there is a war and people start killing themselves they come in to intervene, there is no issue of sovereignty again. And the Cameroonians that would be running here would come to America to flood the place. Instead of having brain drain because of illegal elections, we want a brain gain that elections are fairly conducted. Let the CPDM win in a free fair transparent elections; we will support them,” Fru Ndi said.

Although the election results are yet to be announced, Fru Ndi said his party would be filing a petition Monday to challenge Sunday’s parliamentary and municipal elections.

“Yes, we’ve already written a couple of them and tomorrow [Monday] we start filing them in,” he said.

Legima Doh

Fellow Comrades,

For those who want to apply the vestige of La Republique corruption in our motherland by propagating divide and rule policy that has been a main tool of Mr Biya,I want to state succinctly that the Southern Cameroons National Council is not a political party of La Republique.In party politics,various parties hold different views which often than not are conflicting.The SCNC agenda is for a common purpose and destiny for the entire Southern CAmeroons.The North and South westerners are not divided in the SCNC course in terms of purpose and destiny.Its only those who have been held sway by and are illicitly benefiting from the Biya party politics who may consider the SCNC as an instrument of division between the South and North west province.The SCNC is made up of indegenes of both the North and the South West who have cleared themselves of the Biya regime machinery of planting discord and enmity between the Southern Cameroonians of the North and South West.Just the basic education on the history of the Southern Cameroons,the impact of involvement in La Republique party politics on the identity of the people,the reason to unite in the course of the SCNC as the only legitimate solution of the plight of the country are good enough for every right thinking person be it from Northwest or Southwest to come to perfect understanding that we all brethren.I am a northwester who was born in the Southwest .I can testify they are a very nice people as well as the northwesters.They just need to get the basic education about the truth and unravel themselves from the trap of the Biya regime.This is part of the agenda of the SCNC and the fellow comrades are doing a great job to sensitize people in this light.Sensitization is part of our plan of action.Chairman of the SCNC the grand Chief Ayamba,Vice Dr Nfor NFor from SW and NW.Its a common destiny for the people of the Southern Cameroons and its not about discrimination.We have to disfellowship ourselves from prejudices and wanton misunderstanding!

Peace Upon our Land!

Legima Doh,
SCNC

rexon

Title: The Uncompleted Decoloniza.. Date: July 13, 2007 6:45 PM Category: Tags:

The Uncompleted De-colonization Process
of the former Trust Territory of

British Cameroons
By Mola Njoh Litumbe
Senior Citizen, Politician & Opinion Leader

The territory known up to 1961 as British Cameroons lies to the East of Nigeria and covers a surface area greater than at least 20 independent states that are members of the United Nations. It boasts a population currently estimated at between 5 to 6 million inhabitants. It was first administered by Britain under the Mandate system of the League of Nations, but on 13 December 1946 it became a UN Trust Territory with Great Britain as administering Trustee. To the east of British Cameroons was another UN Trust Territory known as French Cameroun, both territories having been previously part of German Kamerun over which Germany renounced all territorial claims at the Treaty of Versailles in 1919. 2. Great Britain and France respectively were designated trustees of these two territories that were excised from German Kamerun. The UN defined the territorial boundaries of each, over which it executed separate but identical Trust Agreements, pursuant to Art. 76b of the UN Charter. The Trust territory of French Cameroun attained independence on 1 January, 1960. Art. 76 of the UN Charter states, inter alia:
“Art. 76. The basic objective of the [Trusteeship] system, in accordance with the Purposes of the United Nations laid down in Art. 1 of the present Charter, shall be: b. to promote the political, economic, social, and educational advancement of the inhabitants of the trust territories, and their progressive development towards self-government or independence as may be appropriate to the particular circumstances of each territory and its peoples and the freely expressed wishes of the peoples concerned, and as may be provided by the terms of each trusteeship agreement;”

3. In furtherance of the above objective, the United Nations executed a Trust Agreement with Britain in December 1946 in which the Trust Territory was clearly defined in Art.1, and the objective of the Trust stipulated in Art. 3., thus: “Art.1
The Territory to which this Agreement applies comprises that part of the Cameroons lying to the west of the boundary defined by the Franco-British Declaration of 10 July 1919, and more exactly defined in the Declaration made by the Governor of the Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria and the Governor of the Cameroons under French mandate which was confirmed by the exchange of Notes between His Majesty’s Government in the United Kingdom and

the French Government on 9 January 1931. This line may, however, be slightly modified by mutual agreement between His Majesty’s Government in the United Kingdom and the Government of the French Republic where an examination of the localities shows that it is desirable in the interests of the inhabitants.” “Art. 3 The Administering Authority undertakes to administer the Territory in such a manner as to achieve the basic objectives of the international trusteeship system laid down in Art 76 of the United Nations Charter. The Administering Authority further undertakes to collaborate fully with the General Assembly of the United Nations and the Trusteeship Council in the discharge of all their functions as defined in Art 87 of the United Nations Charter, and to facilitate any periodic visits to the Territory which they may deem necessary, at times to be agreed upon with the Administering Authority.”

4. In order to provide further guidance in the application of the above Articles, at the 160th plenary meeting on 18 November 1948, by Resolution 224 (III), the UN General Assembly resolved, inter alia:
“Noting that the Trusteeship Agreements for some of these territories authorize the Administering Authority concerned to constitute the Territory into a customs, fiscal or administrative union or federation with adjacent territories under its sovereignty or control and to establish common services between the Trust Territory and such adjacent territories, where such measures are not inconsistent with the basic objectives of the Trusteeship System and with the terms of the Trusteeship Agreement, ….. “Recalling that the General Assembly approved these Agreements upon the assurance of the Administering Powers that they do not consider the terms of the relevant articles in the Trusteeship Agreements as giving powers to the Administering Authority to establish any form of political association between the Trust Territories respectively administered by them and adjacent territories which would involve annexation of the Trust Territories in any sense or would have the effect of extinguishing their status as Trust Territories, …. “Recommends accordingly that the Trusteeship Council should: (c) Request whenever appropriate, an advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice as to whether such unions are within the scope of and compatible with, the stipulations of the Charter and terms of the Trusteeship Agreements as approved by the General Assembly; ………”

5. Furthermore U.N. Resolution 1514 of 12 December 1960 had this to say in part:
“#5 Immediate steps shall be taken in trust territories, non-self governing territories or all other territories which have not yet attained independence, to transfer all powers to the peoples of those territories without any conditions or reservations in accordance with their freely expressed will and desire without any distinction as to race, creed or colour, in order to enable them enjoy complete independence and freedom.” “#6. Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and the territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.”

6. It must be pointed out that the Articles of the UN Charter constitute, as it were, the Constitution of the United Nations. That being the case, they take precedence over any resolutions that are not in conformity therewith. This is what Art. 102 of the Charter states in relation to agreements of members of the UN which are not registered at the UN Secretariat:
“(1) Every Treaty and every international agreement entered into by any member of the United Nations after the present Charter comes into force shall as soon as possible be registered with the secretariat and published by it.” (2) No party to any such treaty or international agreement which has not been registered in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 1 of this Article may invoke that treaty or agreement before any organ of the United Nations.”

7. The following salient facts emerge from the foregoing: (a) The United Nations signed an Agreement in 1946 designating Britain as Trustee over a clearly defined territory (country) known as British Cameroons, to administer it progressively towards the attainment of self-government or independence, pursuant to Art. 76b of the UN Charter. (The French did just this for the territory of French Cameroun, the adjacent UN Trust territory, which was granted independence on 1 Jan 1960). (b) While Britain was allowed to administer the UN territory of British Cameroons as part of its adjacent colony of Nigeria, and could divide the trust territory administratively to that end, the annexation of the trust territory in any sense to neighbouring Nigeria, or any attempt to extinguish the status of the trust territory, was prohibited. (c) Independence was to be granted without any conditions or reservations to the inhabitants of the trust territory. (d) Where doubts arose as to whether or not a union of the trust territory to a neigbouring state was compatible with the UN Charter and the terms of the Trusteeship Agreement, the Trusteeship Council was to seize the International Court of Justice for an advisory opinion on the matter. (e) Any international agreement which a member of the UN wishes to rely on, that has not been registered at the UN secretariat, cannot be cited before any organ of the United Nations.
(NB. Both Nigeria and La Republique du Cameroun were already members of the UN in 1960, before the territory or country of British Cameroons was dismembered in 1961 and portions ceded to Nigeria or La Republique du Cameroun, without executing union treaties which were to be filed at the UN secretariat, thus contravening UN Art. 102, pars. (1) and (2). This omission is fatal, as the so-called unions are invalid, as they cannot be cited before any organ of the UN).

The concept of “Independence by Joining” 8. Apart altogether from the foregoing, the concept of “independence by joining” is a contradiction in terms. A country is either independent or sovereign or it is not. If it is to become independent subject first to complying with certain pre-conditions, then purely as a matter of common sense, it is not yet independent. It has first to be independent, before deciding

on its own who to join, if need be. The UN Resolution governing independence is clear on the point that independence has to be total, unfettered and unconditional. 9. Upon a careful review of the terms and conditions governing the trust that Her Majesty’s Government assumed over the trust territory of British Cameroons, and after a perusal of the British declassified documents on the subject (now available to the public and extracts of which are set out below), it is painfully obvious that Her Majesty’s Government, contrary to the Trust Agreement and UN Resolutions: Divided permanently the trust territory into Northern British Cameroons and Southern British Cameroons. Instead of leading the territory to unconditional independence, by surrendering political power to its inhabitants as it had to, it used its dominant position at the UN and maneuvered to have separate plebiscites organized for the two sectors it had created, failed to tally the results in so far as they related to only one trust territory, and used this as a pretext to cede part of the Trust territory to Nigeria and the other part to La Republique du Cameroon. In the result, the country known as British Cameroons was dismantled and dismembered, and phased out of existence, instead of being led to join the comity of independent nations. By transferring sovereignty over British Cameroons to other members of the UN, without ensuring that the “joining arrangements” complied with United Nations Art. 102, it left behind a political mess that seems likely to result in a major upheaval in the sub-region, thus endangering world peace. 10. The subtle argument is sometimes adduced that the “joining” of the dismembered parts of this UN Trust territory of British Cameroons was done following the freely expressed wishes of its inhabitants. This argument is hollow and cannot stand logical examination, for a people cannot express themselves freely unless they are free. At the material time British Cameroonians were not yet free, as the Administering Authority held the reigns of power. If, after the transfer of power to the inhabitants, a plebiscite was conducted to determine their wishes, such a result would have been sustainable, provided the votes are aggregated to reflect the voting pattern for the territory as a whole.

11. Extracts from British Declassified Documents
“In particular we must be very careful about independence and temporary sovereignty lest N. Cameroon is likely influenced not to join Nigeria. This I believe is the overriding consideration. So we must be more or less tough with Foncha that joining his Cameroun Republic does not allow sovereignty for a term (sic) of years and then a Federation.” “Any idea of a prolonged period of continued Trusteeship or of separate independent existence of the Southern Cameroons must be ruled out. This should be made clear at an early date to Foncha.”

“First of all I take it that objections hitherto seen to establishment of a separate Southern Cameroons State remain as strong as ever …. I am therefore assuming in what follows that our policy remains strongly against such a solution.” “If Southern Cameroons political parties did combine to take action envisaged in paragraph 2 of telegram under reference, this would place us in a very embarrassing position. With support of moderate Afro-Asians and others, we have always argued that separate independence would produce an entirely unviable State. We have supported a unanimous resolution prescribing plebiscite which involves choice between Nigeria and Cameroun Republic.” “I think it is important that we should not allow this matter to slide, as may happen if we are not sufficiently firm with Foncha – and perhaps also with Field – about the “third question” movement. I believe a firm attitude on this now may save us a great deal of trouble later and I think that H.M.G’s position should be made abundantly clear to Foncha in an effort to scotch tendencies towards the third question.” “Can one argue that the terms of the question “Do you wish to attain independence by joining the Republic?” allow for an interim period during which the Southern Cameroons will virtually have its own separate and independent existence while the terms of reunification with the Republic are being worked out? The words “by joining the Republic” taken literally appear to rule this out. But it may be that Foncha will seek to argue that if his solution, having been agreed to by Ahidjo, is not opposed by the U.K., the U.N. may be induced to wear it. There would be the better grounds for this if Endeley were prepared also to agree to this interpretation of the question. We do not like all this at all. But we like the alternatives even less. To go for complete independence or to seek to insert a third choice in the plebiscite would create major difficulties.” “What would worry me is if a sequel to the Southern Cameroons try for independence was the Northern Cameroons went the same way. That would really I think upset our relationship with Nigeria as a whole and for a long time to come, and that is something which we must at all costs avoid. The Southern Cameroons and its inhabitants are undoubtedly expendable in relation to this.”

The way forward 12. In the event of any doubt, the Secretary-General of the United Nations is respectfully invited to seize the International Court of Justice for a declaratory judgment as to whether or not British Cameroons achieved independence in accordance with the UN Charter and Resolutions. All parties concerned should be cited viz. Great Britain, Nigeria with La Republique du Cameroun (in view of their contest over Bakassi which is located in British Cameroons). Complainants should be invited too as part of the UN delegation.

13. It is my strong recommendation to all parties, particularly the Government of La Republique du Cameroun and the people of former British Cameroons, to behave with utmost restraint and dignity in their dealings with each other, pending a just and peaceful resolution of this matter. 14. Arrests, trials and imprisonment of persons who peacefully exercise their fundamental human rights should cease, because irrespective of the outcome of these proceedings, we are condemned to live together peacefully, either as citizens of adjacent states, or as citizens of one great Federal bi-lingual Republic. May the Good Lord show us the Light

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Done this 12th day of July, 2007

Fon

Spako, while I do respect your opinion, I see a lot of contradiction in your analysis. You averred that people are fade up with the SDF; on the contrary, your advice to the SDF as the main opposition party is to engage in a total offensive approach both nationally and internationally to bring the Biya regime to its knees.

What kind of offensive approach do you think is practical without this population that you claimed is fade up with the party?

I wish to draw you attention to the fact that any decision to stay away from parliament will have a zero impact on the Biya regime. On the other hand it will instead bring devision in the party. Forget about you so call international community; Cameroonians hold the solution to their problems and not someone else.

"it is the duty of the main opposition party the SDF to rally its people and flush out the Monarchs" (Spako)
What strategy do you think the party can use to rally the people? Think about it again. Have you, as one who wants change ever written positive about the party so that when it comes to rally, the people may see reason to follow the party?

7512Wilson
"Staying out of Parliament in my opinion will be the best option and could cast a serious doubt on the Biya Administration both domestically and in the international community. That will make Biya very uncomfortable and could eventually result in a rift among the CPDM high ranks."
7512 Wilson,
I have always appreciated you reasoning. The above statement, I am very convinced you made it out of good faith. On the other hand if you are conversant with international politics and diplomacy, you will not say such a thing. If the SDF stays away from parliament, it will not have any impact; it will be a non event to the international community. Read about Sudan and Zimbabwe.

I think completely different. Cameroonians are not ready for change now. If Fru Ndi had taken the SDF to join the Government before now, I would have been the first to curse Fru Ndi. But now, I think the best thing for Fru Ndi is either to resign from politics or join the government. Let him join the government, take some ministries and compensate those who have sacrificed so much for that party. At this time nobody will say he has betrayed the people, instead the people have betrayed him. By this token, I mean he should forget that change will come to Cameroon through the SDF so soon. I repeat let the SDF join the government and forget about change; when Cameroonians are ready for change, they will find a way out.

rexon

Fon,

You are a hypocrite. You are a hypocrite because, despite all the betrayal that the SDF has done to the people, you are now blaming them and asking for NJFN to join the government. That was your plan. Who told you he was not in the government before? He was in the legislative and executive arms of La Republiques government. I told you guys, sooner or later, we shall know the true colours of this hypocrites.

You wrote:

"Cameroonians are not ready for change now"

Is NJFN not a cameroonian? Since we are not ready for change, he NJFN is not also ready for change as a cameroonian and that is why he has been working with the regime. Fon, If NJFN joins the government, i can assure you that, he will have grave consequences not only to him but to all his followers and maybe all Southern Cameroonians. He will be an enemy to himself for the rest of his life.

Fon, this is what you have always craved for and there is no need lying to yourself that it is not your plan:

"I repeat let the SDF join the government and forget about change; when Cameroonians are ready for change, they will find a way out"

We know from classified evidence that the SDF has always wanted to join the next government and Mr Biya do made it clear that he is expecting them to join his new government. So stop all these talk about Cameroonians this or that. Traitors would all be exposed.
Quoting Spako, "time is the best judge"

Legima Doh

Fellow Comrades,

We want to congratulate Ernest,now Comrade Ernest.He used to be highly held sway by the Sdf ideology but has now grappled with the truth.His stance at the moment is very unquestionable.Ernest we shall closely follow your questions so that you get clarified and thereafter help sensitize others.

For the rest,after reading the postings,I challenge you to come up with new questions and not the what is ScNc's plan of action,what is her agenda and so on.We are moving forward and not backward.Some say we labtop experts in China.Oh Yeah,China is just one of the countries that hosts our comrades.We are earthwide,in the United Kingdom,United States,Germany,Sweden,Denmark,Holland,Italy and so on.

Peace Upon our Land!

Legima Doh,
ScNc

UnitedStatesofAfrica

7512 Wilson,
I have great respect for the comments you have made. I like realists like you who look at a situation, analyze it and give both sides of the equation. The verbose SCNC supporters on this site do the contrary.Under the leadership of the reckless Rexon and the lamenting Legima, They come here wth their high sounding words, confused grammar, lenghty entries, intimidating words, lopsided views and show only one side of the equation. They sit on their China-made laptops in Europe and Asia and naively criticize people who are fighting on the battlefield back home.

Legima Doh

Fellow Comrades,

We want to congratulate Ernest,now Comrade Ernest.He used to be highly held sway by the Sdf ideology but has now grappled with the truth.His stance at the moment is very unquestionable.Ernest we shall closely follow your questions so that you get clarified and thereafter help sensitize others.

For the rest,after reading the postings,I challenge you to come up with new questions and not the what is ScNc's plan of action,what is her agenda and so on.We are moving forward and not backward.Some say we labtop experts in China.Oh Yeah,China is just one of the countries that hosts our comrades.We are earthwide,in the United Kingdom,United States,Germany,Sweden,Denmark,Holland,Italy and so on.

Peace Upon our Land!

Legima Doh,
ScNc

UnitedStatesofAfrica

I will stand my by word that the SCNC is nonsensical. Africa is dying today because we are dividing ourselves into small units that are impossible to surivive on their own. If Southern Cameroons secede, the cycle of corruption and poverty will still continue.There will always be corrupt leaders and the western countries will still support, bribe and finance corrupt leaders to help them achieve their imperialistic aims. They will use the debts we owe them as a greenlight to get into the country and control everything.They will still discriminate against our goods when they arrive at the E.U and other international markets and there's nothing we can do about it.They will work with our corrupt leaders to keep us continuously poor. It is high time for Africans to open their eyes and see that this division is not helping. The more we divide, the weaker we become and the easier it is for the international community to manipulate over us.
Right now, Africa needs brave men and women who are willing to advocate for federalism. We need people who are determined to advocate for a united and federal Africa that would have a model system similar to that in the US. When they talk of United states of Africa, people think of one country under one president. That is not the case; all countries and regions will maintain their sovereignty and indepedence but we will have a powerful congress comprising of members of all African countries that would enforce checks and balances in order to avoid excessive power.The congress votes on which decisions should take effect and they make sure that all presidents follow the constitution.
With a united and federal Africa, we do not need the exploitative West. We can demolish all trade barriers between African countries and trade freely among ourselves. This would make our farmers rich as their goods will no longer be discrimanted against in international markets.
We will also be able to have a single currency which will grow stronger as we trade more. Take Romania for example, their currecny was so low that they had no hope. With the formation of the single E.U currency, the E.U has become so strong that it is even stronger than the U.S dollar. Now, Romania can boast of a currency stronger than the U.S dollar. This can also happen in Africa if we stand together. With a federal system, we can still govern ourselves but stand united at the same time. But the SCNC is telling us to govern oursleves and stay isolated from the rest of Africa. To me, this is nonsensical because no Africa country can survive on it's own. Histroy has proven and you can check the facts over and over again. Africa MUST unite. Before the Europeans divided us, we are united and suceeding.
Peace Upon the land and not just the land of Southern Cameroons. Peace upon the land of Kenya, Southern Cameroons, Nigeria, Ghana, Egypt, our brothers in La republique who can still reconcile with, Namibia, South Africa, Bostwana and the rest of Africa.
Peace UPON Africa; WE MUST UNITE!!!!!!!!

UnitedStatesofAfrica

My fellow Africans, to know more about our cause for a united and federal Africa, go to

www.africa-union.org

simplice

United States of Africa, you're a great leader; a very thoughtful gentleman. The last time I came to this forum and expressed my opinion, I was dosed with bitter pills of insults, one-sided synthesis.. you name it. I'm tired of this talking ,,talking,, talking,,,. Please let Rexon and co, give us a road map. Let them tell us what they've done hitherto.As far as I'm concerned, I know, the SCNC is as corrupt as "la Republique". Which asylum seeker under the barner of SCNC truely diserves that quality.Do leaders of the SCNC not collect money for from fake asylum seekers all over?. Please creat an SCNC web-site for this talking show. We want action,...Please just tell us what you've done. Stop telling us what NJFN ought to do. In a sentence; what sort of a pragmantic angel is the SCNC.

rexon

Yes Simplice,

You have recently seen action in calling for our people to boycott the charade on our land as it was a poisoned chalice. So, they slept and did not temper to go out and vote. Then, we are now hearing of ambulant voters from La Republique. They were the ones together with traitors partaking in this poisoned chalice.

If you want to know much about our roadmap, go to the archives or follow what we have been asking you to do. You cannot know all about the road map in one single posting. We cannot surrender our destiny to bandits. No matter how many colours you come, SDF, La Republique, France, Simplice, NJFN, etc we will drive you out of our land.

casara

Simplice,
You are one unscrupoulous fellow.Talk sense young man.I am sure you are of thesame group, La Repulique.If for real you are of the Southern Cameroons you would not make such unreasonable statements.You talk like an illiterate.What makes you think that those that were granted asylum never deserved it?
What the hell are your people doing in the Southern Cameroons?Why are you worried that the Southern Cameroons wants it's autonomy?
Please tell your people to leave Southern Cameroons,and leave it in piece not in pieces.

It's unfortunate that some of us in this forum didn't read any thing about the history of La Republique and the Southern Cameroons.We were thought histories of different countries and not the history of said United Republique of Cameroon.The fact of matters is, some fake authors came up with fake stories about the histories of the said "United Republique of Cameroon"
What a pity for some one not well versed with his or her own history.
I am very sure that had Fon,and friends had the chance to know what the Southern cameroons looked like in terms of history,they would not be argueing here and pursueing the wrong directions.Except that these lads are not from the Southern Cameroons, i mean Fon,SIMPLICE and friends.The manner with which one presents his or her facts tells alot about the person.SIMPLICE,and friends are typical examples of La Republique's indegens who happen to express themselves in the queens language and now things they're from the Southern Cameroons.
People, let's find this history thing about the Republique of Cameroon and the Southern CAMEROONS, read it and comfortably argue from there.Cos' i think, after reading about the history of how the Southern Cameroons and La Republique came about with the "United Republique of Cameroon"you would refrain from talking about issues of La Republique.

We'll preveil,we'll prevail
We are Southern Cameroons

Legima Doh

Simplis when u just pop into an intellectual forum like this,you want to first find out whether the pragmatic solution question of the SCNC had been answered here or not.You dont just come from nowhere,uninformed about what has been going on in the forum to give undue praises and castigations.Since the SCNC is not an angel,something no one had claimed,as a patriotic southern cameroonian what is the way forward to you?Come out with something else pragmatic apart of the SCNC while bearing in mind the failure of the Sdf pragmatism.We have been giving the road map you jumped in to ask time and time and again.The reason those you venerate fail to see the light in it is because of the falsehood,unskillful tactics of misjudgments,and lack of any robust strategy.For you,I can say it is because being an infidel participator here,you are uninformed about all what has been transpiring here,you are also unlettered on the nitty gritty of the SCNC else you would have had the answers to your humdrum questions even from simple reading.

Casara,
It is terrifying to see how some people are so unlettered in the history of the Southern cameroons.In addition to the illiteracy in that history,they are awefully under the fetters of negative thinking, and high level mediocricy.

peace Upon our Land.

legima Doh,
SCNC

Legima Doh

We have been presuming that people of this forum are very informed about the Southern cameroons but after a while,I got disgusted to realise how unlettered most of our detractors are about the Southern cameroons.The following is an excerpt about the Southern cameroons.

Southern Cameroons became part of Cameroun on 1 October 1961. Foncha served as Prime Minister of West Cameroun and Vice-President of the Federal Republic of Cameroun. However, the English-speaking peoples of the Southern Cameroons (now West Cameroun) did not believe that they were fairly treated by the French-speaking government of the country. Following a referendum on 21 May 1972 a new constitution was adopted in Cameroun which replaced the federal state with a unitary state. Southern Cameroons lost its autonomous status and became the Northwest Province and Southwest Province of the Republic of Cameroun. The Southern Cameroonians felt further marginalised. Groups such as the Cameroon Anglophone Movement (CAM) demanded greater autonomy, or independence, for the provinces.

Pro-independence groups claim that UN resolution 1608 of 21 April 1961, which required the UK, the Government of the Southern Cameroons and Republic of Cameroun to engage in talks with a view to agreeing measures for union of the two countries, was not implemented, and that the Government of the United Kingdom was negligent in terminating its trusteeship without ensuring that proper arrangements were made. They say that the adoption of a federal constitution by Cameroun on 1 September 1961 constituted annexation of South Cameroons.

Representatives of Anglophone groups convened the first All Anglophone Conference (AAC1) in Buea from 2 April to 3 April 1993. The conference issued the "Buea Declaration", which called for constitutional amendments to restore the 1961 federation. This was followed by the second All Anglophone Conference (AAC2) in Bamenda in 1994. This conference issued the “Bamenda Declaration”, which stated that if the federal state was not restored within a reasonable time, Southern Cameroons would declare its independence. The AAC was renamed the Southern Cameroons Peoples Conference (SCPC), and later the Southern Cameroons Peoples Organisation (SCAPO), with the Southern Cameroons National Council (SCNC) as the executive governing body. Younger activists formed the Southern Cameroons Youth League (SCYL) in Buea on 28 May 1995. The SCNC sent a delegation, led by John Foncha, to the United Nations, which was received on 1 June 1995 and presented a petition against the 'annexation' of the Southern Cameroons by French Cameroun. This was followed by a signature referendum the same year, which the organisers claim produced a 99% vote in favour of independence with 315,000 people voting.[1]

Armed members of the SCNC took over the Buea radio station in Southwest Province on the night of 30 December 1999 and in the early hours of 31 December broadcast a tape of a proclamation of independence read by Judge Ebong Frederick Alobwede.

Amnesty International has accused the Cameroun authorities of human right violations against South Cameroons activists.

Following the International Court of Justice ruling of 10 October 2002 that sovereignty over the Bakassi peninsula rested with Cameroun, SCAPO claimed that Bakassi was in fact part of the territory of Southern Cameroons. In 2002, SCAPO took the Nigerian government to the Federal High Court in Abuja to require it to take a case before the International Court of Justice to establish the right of the people of the Southern Cameroons to self-determination. The court ruled in their favour on 5 March 2002. On 14 August 2006 Nigeria formally handed over the Bakassi peninsula to Cameroun. SCAPO responded by proclaiming the independence of the Republic of Ambazania, to include the territory of Bakassi.[2]



[edit] References
^ Southern Cameroons Peoples Organisation website
^ The Proclamation of the Idependence of the Republic of Ambazania

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WorldStatesmen- Cameroon
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Peace Shall Reign in our land

Legima Doh,
SCNC

7512wilson

Mr Fon.
With all due respect i completely disagree with your idea for SDF to join Biya's corrupt government. That will be the worst thing ever for SDF to ever conceive. We are talking about one of the worst governments in the history of Mankind. Biya's government have been voted twice as the most corrupt in the world and just recently, Cameroon topped the list as one of the most ungoverned nations in the world next to Iraq and Somalia. Biya's Government is an embarrassment for Cameroonians and Biya has become a laughing stock to the rest of the civilized world. History will credit the SDF for putting on a good fight to free Cameroonians from the hands of a dictator. Unfortunately, their crusade was not enough not because they faltered but because the the field was not a plane field. It will be a total disaster if the SDF decides to join the Biya Government and i pray something like that never happens.
As i earlier said, SDF should forgo Parliament and leave the Biya Government hanging. That will cast a serious doubt on the legitimacy of the Biya administration and will also create confusion in the government which is good. When in a confuse state, the government will be prone to making mistakes and someone is going to get pissed off and then the rumble will start. People will start loosing their jobs and some will even get killed. What will happen next is that people will start getting fed up with the system including those in the military. They will start asking themselves the question "where are we heading to?". Before long there will be panic and hysteria everywhere and it will be only a matter time for Biya to be taken out.
I know some readers will think this is all wishful thinking but bear in mind that we had a similar situation during the CPDM primaries. We saw how CPDM militants were going at each other and even witnessed incidents of blood shed and enmity among CPDM party ranks. In my opinion, the SDF should leave Biya to his destiny.
Biya is in all respect a miserable human being and is the actual loser and not the winner in the past election. The actual winner is the Cameroonian people who chose not to go and vote. Rough estimates shows that only about one million Cameroonians or less went to the polls out of an electorate of about ten million. The Cameroon Ministry of Territorial Administration claims to have registered about 4.5 million persons. These figures as everyone knows are fictitious. In reality, only about 1,000,000 votes were cast. In other words, only about one-tenth (1/10) those who are eligible to vote took part in the Cameroon Gov't Electoral Consultations. The decision by the people not to vote is a silent protest of the Cameroonian people who in my opinion are the actual winners here. This proves that Cameroonians are getting smarter and thats a good sign for the future.

More to come

7512wilson

Mr Fon.
With all due respect i completely disagree with your idea for SDF to join Biya's corrupt government. That will be the worst thing ever for SDF to ever conceive. We are talking about one of the worst governments in the history of Mankind. Biya's government have been voted twice as the most corrupt in the world and just recently, Cameroon topped the list as one of the most ungoverned nations in the world next to Iraq and Somalia. Biya's Government is an embarrassment for Cameroonians and Biya has become a laughing stock to the rest of the civilized world. History will credit the SDF for putting on a good fight to free Cameroonians from the hands of a dictator. Unfortunately, their crusade was not enough not because they faltered but because the the field was not a plane field. It will be a total disaster if the SDF decides to join the Biya Government and i pray something like that never happens.
As i earlier said, SDF should forgo Parliament and leave the Biya Government hanging. That will cast a serious doubt on the legitimacy of the Biya administration and will also create confusion in the government which is good. When in a confuse state, the government will be prone to making mistakes and some one is going to get pissed off and then the rumble will start. People will start loosing their jobs and some will even get killed. What will happen next is that people will start getting fed up with the system including those in the military. They will start asking themselves the question "where are we heading to?". Before long there will be panic and hysteria everywhere and it will be only a matter time for Biya to be taken out.
I know some readers will think this is all wishful thinking but bear in mind that we had a similar situation during the CPDM primaries. We saw how CPDM militants were going at each other and even witnessed incidents of blood shed and enmity among CPDM party ranks. In my opinion, the SDF should leave Biya to his destiny.
Biya is in all respect a miserable human being and is the actual loser and not the winner in the past election. The actual winner is the Cameroonian people who chose not to go and vote. Rough estimates shows that only about one million Cameroonians or less went to the polls out of an electorate of about ten million. The Cameroon Ministry of Territorial Administration claims to have registered about 4.5 million persons. These figures as everyone knows are fictitious. In reality, only about 1,000,000 votes were cast. In other words, only about one-tenth (1/10) those who are eligible to vote took part in the Cameroon Gov't Electoral Consultations. The decision by the people not to vote is a silent protest by the Cameroonian people who in my opinion are the actual winners here. This proves that Cameroonians are getting smarter and thats a good sign for the future.

casara

People corrections, i mean "peace" Thus the statement would read "peace and not in pieces"thanks

Fon

Hello 7512wilson,
The point was made out of anger, because I see Cameroonians so docile at the present moment and are no longer enthusiastic about change. They seem to have surrendered their destiny in the hands of Biya and will tolerate anything of his. Boycotting elections can´t bring down the Biya´s regime. I am so disappointed with lukewarm attitude of the people towards change at this moment.
We can´t expect the SDF to succeed in bringing down Biya without the full support of the people; the people need to sit up so as to motivate the opposition to stake thier necks.

simplice

Bullets coming from every end. I ask a question and the swamp of bees come again. I have never been against the SCNC cause. But those forwarding it here are engaging in propaganda that is less strategic and inconsiquential.Please just tell me a web-site you've created for this cause.

Spako

Fon,

I still come back to the point you are making about the docility and lukewarm attitute you purport we Cameroonians are. The truth is that we are not a docile and lukewarm people. We are eager for change. The problem is that the SDF that was openly leading this clamour for change has blown it. You can now see that the SDF, from its management to the attitute of its Parliamentarians, as a proper reflection of the CPDM. Fru Ndi is tired. He can no longer even call or rally the people for a sit down strike. The elections results has been rigged as he claims but the best he can do is to go to court. For how long will the SDFers and sympathizers continue to accept such boofoonery and ineptitute.
Except Fru Ndi and the SDF has got something in common with the CPDM or lack the ability, its time to go the extra mile and call for a Silent Revolution that will bring the regime to its knees. Desperate times demand desperate measures.
Cameroonians are living in desperation and burrowed time. They are yearning for a Messiah. I still believe the SDF, as the main oppositioin party, can lead this revolution. Going to the courts to address election irregularities? What courts is Fru Ndi talking about? Why is it so difficult for him to realise that he cannot use the system to the benefit of the people. Show us true leadership and vision now.
Even a tiger, when overfed, will sit idle and watch as prey go by.
I personally think Fru Ndi has lost that desire, hunger, thirst, courage and zeal of the early 90's. Its either new blood is injected into the SDF or see it die a painful but slow death.
Otherwise, the same people who gave it much power and believe might put the last nail on its coffin.
Who says the crocodile cannot eats its own eggs.

Spako

Fon,

I still come back to the point you are making about the docility and lukewarm attitute you purport we Cameroonians are. The truth is that we are not a docile and lukewarm people. We are eager for change. The problem is that the SDF that was openly leading this clamour for change has blown it. You can now see that the SDF, from its management to the attitute of its Parliamentarians, as a proper reflection of the CPDM. Fru Ndi is tired. He can no longer even call or rally the people for a sit down strike. The elections results has been rigged as he claims but the best he can do is to go to court. For how long will the SDFers and sympathizers continue to accept such boofoonery and ineptitute.
Except Fru Ndi and the SDF has got something in common with the CPDM or lack the ability, its time to go the extra mile and call for a Silent Revolution that will bring the regime to its knees. Desperate times demand desperate measures.
Cameroonians are living in desperation and burrowed time. They are yearning for a Messiah. I still believe the SDF, as the main oppositioin party, can lead this revolution. Going to the courts to address election irregularities? What courts is Fru Ndi talking about? Why is it so difficult for him to realise that he cannot use the system to the benefit of the people. Show us true leadership and vision now.
Even a tiger, when overfed, will sit idle and watch as prey go by.
I personally think Fru Ndi has lost that desire, hunger, thirst, courage and zeal of the early 90's. Its either new blood is injected into the SDF or see it die a painful but slow death.
Otherwise, the same people who gave it much power and believe might put the last nail on its coffin.
Who says the crocodile cannot eats its own eggs.

Francis/Germany

Greetings to all my cameroonian brothers and sisters in the forum. It is with shock and sadness that i read some of the comments on this forum especially those from the SCNC folks.Certainly all others and I are tired of reading your lengthy posts with no substance. Lets look at this problem like intellectuals. I used to respect all your opinions but you are unfotunately forcing me to believe you are of the CPDM or are simply from somewhere else. Please let me make it easy for all readers in this forum to know you have no agenda and are very distructive to the progress of Cameroon. Please just give us answers to the following questions and we might better understand your position.

1) How do you intend to gain independence from the La Republic while the CPDM has close to 100% victory in the South west province?

2) Who would be part of the Southern Cameroonian nation when southwesterners call Northwesteners settlers and are at logger heads?

3)What would have happened if the SDF did not boycott the Legislative elections of 1996? If boycotting really the best solution.

4)Why is it so difficult for you guys to table out a plan of action? Fru Ndi proposed Federalism as his main tool for faster development.

5) Would you promise to us that you would never post any thrash here again if you don´t have answers to this simple questions.


if you give me concrete answers that could yield fruit in the nearest future, then i would happily join the SCNC and I am sure others will equally join. So this is your chance to convince mayn to join you. Don´t blow it. It could equally be your chance to lose some.
Thanks

rexon

Francis/Germany.

Answers:

1-So you believe the pools? As far as i understand, ambulant voters and rigging is what concluded the results. No rightminded Southern Cameroon ever participated in that poisoned chalice.

2-It is the CPDM that call people settlers in a bid to divide and enslave them. They know if we are united, we will never be stronger. We are struggling to counter these fake CPDM doctrines that has been creating division amongst our people. So it is for you to join the SCNC and fight for your freedom.

3-I dont understand the question. can you please elaborate?

4-NJFN proposed federalism. We proposed the total and unconditional independence of the Southern Cameroons according to the UN charter that granted total and unconditional independence to all UN trust territories except the Southern Cameroons. Whose constitution was manipulated by the colonialist. We are talking about a people here. With a right for self determination. We are not talking about animals. La Republique should govern her affairs and allow us to govern ours. Period. Federalism on what platform? Why must we be a federation with La Republique in the first place?

5-I have given you my own answers and i am waiting for you to join us.

In the meantime, i will invite you to read www.scncforsoutherncameroons.net to learn more about us. There are very interesting articles there about our history. We have also pasted here a lot of legal arguments relating to our case and i would be great if you read them.

rexon

Fon,

Stop fumbling around and mocking your intellectual prowess. The solution is for the SDF to call on her militants to join the right movement. A Southern Cameroonian have no legal right to aspire to become the president of a foreign land. Moreso, you should not provoke our political conciousness by forcing our people to learn the bad political habits of La Republique. If not of the SDF we would'nt have had all these nonsense on our territory. What unites us is our right for self determination and the SDF have been blowing this up through it participation in Camerounese politics thereby confusing our people.

Cheers Brother.

Langai

7512wilson and all:

I fully agree with you. The paltry 18 or so seats said to have been attributed to the SDF should be left vacant. This is the time for the SDF to insist on strict party discipline and ask all those who have been selected by the CPDM bullies to join in the hand-clapping National Assembly to stay away from that evil house for good. Nothing will ever come out of there. If the thieving government likes, it can select some of its more crooked contenders to fill those vacant seats and run the show alone, sans partage. Even the local councils should be boycotted. The erstwhile councillors of the SDF should just stand by and when the euphoria dies down, they should refuse to take up office and leave the places vacant. If again the ruling clique want, they should select their crooks to fill those positions. After all what we call election in CMR is in fact a flawed selection process. I hope and appeal to power-hungry politicians to boycott this mascarade and put the gangsters in total confusion. They should run the whole show and take credit for any achievements and also take the flak for any blunders.
Fon, there is nothing like Ni John joining a kleptocratic bunch like this. No one from the SDF should be heard to be dining with the gang. I know the Rexons and the rest will jump in to say they have been dining all along. I think that that is false. In the past I have asked, if the SDF is dining with the chop people gang, why are they not allowed to hold rallies and use public facilities? Why would an ally keep putting spanners in the works of its ally? The answer is simple: these are not birds of the same plumage and they cannot flock together.
Watch this space.
Maverick

rexon

Maverick,

It is appalling that you guys take us for critics rather than preachers of the truth. I am highly disappointed like you for the results of the charade. For two distinct reasons: Firstly, it has an overall negative influence on the political conciousness of our people. Secondly, it brings back memories of the fact that our people still have to suffer for more years to come.

Chauvinists can never force me to believe a poisoned chalice called elections. But my disappointments has been professed long ago because i knew and said it here that this is what will happen. When i say elections in La Republique and its results are dictated in hotel suits and presidencies abroad:I know what i am talking about and know want can influence me to betray my wisdom and knowledge. Dont you see Ekindi coming in? Dont you see how UNDP has been given more seats? You see Maverick, there are people who know more than you know and are genuinely interested for change. When i struggle here to advise the Feli's, the Watesih', Atangha's, Fon, henchmen of the SDF, and they struggle to fool our people that things will be fine, i get really dissapointed because we all know the truth. People cannot just sit in their hotels, Villa's and castles in London, Paris, Baden Baden, Stuttgart, Monaco and decide on a thing and fools just start following them in the name of a political party and elections. It is clear that the SDF has been used. I strongly believe the leadership of the SDF knows what i know. But it was one thing pushing them to this poisoned chalice: GREED. I cannot tell if all of them have been dining with the regime, but i can at least with my clear conscience assure you that something went wrong and will still go wrong. There was a conspiracy involving some elements of the SDF and I cannot deny that. But if you ask me for my evidence, i will say i don’t have any because, i cannot die for a people who don’t want to hear or see the truth. A lot of Cameroonians sit here in London and conspire with those criminals and want to kill us when we say the truth. They are always here to hide their money, and their families and supporters will come here to paste thrash for us to consume. Those are the people you listen to, but rest assured that nothing lasts forever. It is left on the people now to decide if they want to still believe in these criminals masquerading as politicians or not.

Maverick, i can tell you frankly that some people have a stake in this business called politics. They are not prepared to let it go either with the opposition colouring a democracy or by joining the government. It can be through their contracts with the government, it can be through their salaries, it can be through fake scholarships that they get from the CPDM, It can be through pensions bonuses and insurance/health schemes that are unclassified, etc. Remember i asked Feli here how some people in the SDF are surviving in the appalling business climate of La Republique as explained by Becky Enonchong. He said it was through their talents of hard work and dedication. By implication, he meant all of us failed because we were not hardworking and dedicated. But that is not true. Feli and Co knows the truth. It is IMPOSSIBLE to survive in that place without dancing according to the whims and caprices of those kleptocrats and not everybody can tolerate that. Do you think all the fighting going on has any objective? Take it or leave it, It is GREED my friend.

Legima Doh

Maverick,

Nice proposals there for the SDF but please take a step further.After doing that,shall the Sdf go back into involvement in la republique politics or shall they shun it for good?By presidential decree,Biya will definitely appoint members of parliament should the sdf space be vacant.He is capable of doing anything in his country.After such must have happened,shall Ni John come out again to say people should rally to vote in 2011?1996 elections were boycotted,2007 saw sdf presence with a consequential blow.You are true to say these are not birds of a feather and they cannot flock together.Is this not what we have been trying as hard as possible to throw light on here?We all have our motherland at heart,let us be reasonable which I know you are and also be truthful to ourselves to conclude that our liberation cannot come from within La Republique.We want to admit the SCNC.The effort that is wasted in the La republique party politics would be of unbelievable impetus to the SCNC.Sdf's being in the parliament in a bid to the 2011 presidential,or shunning the parliament so come after still in a bid to the 2011 presidential will lead to thesame end.No victory in the election in 2011 and forever for the Sdf in la republique and this is known so well by la republicans,Fru Ndi himself,Andre Fokam and the rest of us.As soon as Biya's candidature shall be approved,that is when he is declared president and the voting remains for formality ie pro forma.

Peace,Absolute Peace and Freedom shall Reign

Legima Doh,
SCNC

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