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simplice

"He argued that if the SDF had boycotted the elections, government would have come up with a cosmetic thing and the SDF blamed for being intransigent by boycotting the elections" by Fru Ndi

I think Fru has some Scientific Approach in the Political Arena.He doesn't conclude and come up with wrong hypothesis.In affect his party had to go in for elections to prove the "undemocratic" nature of Biya's regime. Only by his going into elections could he show the World, Cameroon's elections are matches played in advance.
Now the above reflection considered, can't we say, Fru Ndi went into elections to Paint Black Biya's democracy?. Or are we to still say he went to colour Biya's inexistent democracy?. If the latter is true , then how can an inexistent democracy be proven without participation and evidence of fraud?.
I have no answer to the question myself.
Please let's all set a new face on this forum. I begin by apologising if I've ever by virtue of intension or ignorance offended anybody. Please let, Pa Ngembus, USA and others follow suit.

M Nje

Simplice,
Political elections are not on their own equal to democracy. Democracy is a representative form of government based on the notion that power is derived from the power to their leaders. The people at any moment can decide to reclaim that power from their leaders. Elections are a process used to form such a representative government ( democratic government)

If you take part in an election to prove a point, then after the elections you must have either proven that point or failed to do so. If your initial point has been proven WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF TAKING PART IN THE SUBSEQUENT government that emerges. By taking part in that government, you are giving the impression that that government is a democracy.

Shalom

Simplice and Nje, both of you are correct in your assessments. Fru Ndi is equally very right that his going in for the elections exposed the corrupt, fraudulent, and inhumane oligarchy of Yaounde. Now the unforgivable, monumental error that Fru Ndi and his SDF will commit at this point in time is to accept to sit in the councils or assembly seats that Marafa has generously granted them; be it 74 or 14. The election was a sham period. Nothing good can come out of fraud-ridden elections like these. So even if they were to be given a majority everywhere, the wise thing for Fru Ndi and the SDF is BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT AND BOYCOTT. This is the one and only opportunity left for them to tighten the nod around this regime and help deliver Cameroonians from this grip. The alternative will be to form an alternative parliament and councils where the popular vote was mismanaged. Go to Buea with your parliamentarians and start legislating. Let the alternative councils be set up and let the people decide where their taxes will go.
If Fru Ndi with what ever flimsy excuses accepts to sit in this regime's parliament or councils, then, let the people immediately send him on exile and find an alternative. This is the year of victory or never again should we talk of opposition in Cameroon.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

That was top-notch analysis shalom, job well done. Now that Fru Ndi has "proven his point", the SDF needs a new strategy to carry on from here.

rexon

Simplice, M Nje, Shalom,

There are lots of hypocrisy in NJFN's statements.

If he went to the elections to prove a point, how many times does he needs to prove his soo called point?

Does he means the international community does not understand that elections in Cameroon are dictated in advance?

What do you guys make of his congratulations to Yar'adua who went to power through a fraudulent elections? Does he means Yar'adua won the elections?

I await your response.

simplice

Rexon,
Thanks for the anti-thesis. I think on the basis of Fru Ndi's statements, the real nature of his hypocracy will only be confirmed when his party joins the gov't;independent of the decision of the Supreme Courts Constitutional Council today.
Acknowledging he's not fully liable to decision of his NEC, then I think the hypocracy cannot by entirely justly imputed to him, but aswell to members of his NEC. Now if he wants to prove sound in his gentlemanism, he can then rethink NEC's decision as contrary to his codes of honour.Resignation can be the most likely outcome:if not, he'll be a hypocrite.

M Nje

Simplice,
I hope I am not jumping ahead of the ship here but the SDF has already selected mayors in places like Bafoussam and Kumba.

From their present statement and conduct, it is clear to many that the SDF has no intention to BOYCOTT the government. What are they waiting to announce their intention to BOYCOTT. As we speak, they are opening voting mayors in their councils.

The best predictor of the future is the pass. One does not need to wait to prove that these guys are either hypocrites or are completely NAIVE. There is alot in their pass record to prove that. They have already proven that they are either hypocrites or are completely NAIVE. There have been many elections in the pass in La Republique that the SDF has cry out loudly against fraud. But they end up in the government. They even accepted councils like Kumba and Victoria, Douala, Bamenda where a government delegate was appointed to essential run the council. The elected mayor becomes just a symbolic head with the sole role of Chairman of the council. A post that comes with no real power. They promise people they will change thinks if given a majority in parliament. They truth is that they are many lawyers in the SDF who know the truth or should know the truth; that they way the law is written it is almost impossible for a private member bill to be introduces let alone become law. But they still make those promises.

As I have said earlier GREED, GREED, GREED, GREED, GREED, and GREED is what is taking them to join La Republiques` government. They cannot afford to let those council and parliamentary allowances go. It is a business, a profitable business, in which the SDF is paid to color La Republique as a democracy. What they are protesting now is that the payment is small. The boss in the C.P.D.M is trying to reduce their seats and council, indirectly reducing his payment.

Rexon,
There is no doubt that in 1992 it was proven beyond the reasonable doubt that what ever point the SDF needed to prove had been proven. It was clear that:

1) No entity other that the CPDM will continue to win in La Republique Du Cameroun for the foreseeable future.

2) No Southern Cameroons should dream of EVER being President in a foreign country: La Republique Du Cameroun.

The subsequence SDF participation in elections in La Republique is credited to GREED, GREED, GREED, GREED, and GREED.

They can continue to take part in elections for the next 2000 years. They will not win one.

Concerning Yar'adua and Ni Johns congratulation message to him, it is hard to explain how someone who claimed to be cheated in 1992 should support a similar treatment for another person. He should stop complaining about fraud. He took sides to support another candidate who was widely believe to have committed electoral fraud.

Remember the common phrase "do on to others what you expect should be done to you." Who said the world is not round?

Ernest

Mr M Nje, You said greed is what is pushing the sdf to take up councils and parliamentary seats. But let me ask you this question"is sdf the only opposition party in Cameroon? why is it that you guys never talked of CDU, UPC NUDP and the rest? you guys are always attacking fru Ndi and calling him names for nothing. The Man had simply told us the reasons why the party decided to go in for the twin elections and you guys are blaming him.
Another question i want to ask you is"was it Yarádua who frauded the election in Nigeria or Obasanjo? Yarádua to me never frauded any election but Obasanjo did in favour of him. I know that you guys hate the guts of FRU NDI that is why everythings he says or does is never good.

Ernest

Simplice I agree with you ont he point that"how can inexistent democracy be proven without participating in an election.The sdf Had proven once more to the world that there is no democracy in Cameroon and that the CPDM is afraid of the oppositions particularly the sdf that is why the election had to be rigged in all the ten provinces in favour of the cpdm. shalom also mentioned the fact that the sdf should boycott the councils and parliament even if geven all the 74seats it's suppose to have won. I share the same opinion with you but don't you think that boycotting the councils and parliament will cost a total collapse of the party?. You know that they are members that have invested huge sum of money for this election and they are eager to take their seats either in the council or parliament. My own suggestion is that if the sdf are awarded upto 62 seats, they should accept and go in as this will avoid internal problems within the party. They will also use their numbers to block any constitutional changes in the parliament.

rexon

Ernest Wrote,

"You know that they are members that have invested huge sum of money for this election and they are eager to take their seats either in the council or parliament"

That is a very interesting statement of yours and a very truthful one of course. Spako reminded us of people who took huge bank loans here in the UK and invested it in the elections to be able to move closer to the Biya regime and make their own money from the corrupt junta.

What do you think of those who invested but loose?

Why do you scorn us for saying that they are in business with La Republique?

mk the southerner

"He argued that if the SDF had boycotted the elections, government would have come up with a cosmetic thing and the SDF blamed for being intransigent by boycotting the elections" by Fru Ndi.

Tell me if this statement will not be made come presidential election 2011. Talking about boycott, I swear to my mother it will worth the guiness book of records if sdf even think of the word boycott.

Ernest look the sdf was formed for us by us not the cdu, upc, cpdm, etc that is way we can talk about the sdf freely.

I pray God help NEC to forget about their own necks and think about ours.

SCNC the way forward.

Legima Doh

They were nice comments from comrades M Nje,Shalom,Mk the Southerner and Rexon.Simplice you had a nice comment there but we want our independence complete and thats what we see Ni Fru and the Sdf standing in the way of it.

He said one of their preoccupations has been whether they can have a free hand and carry on with the socialist views of the Sdf party within the confines of such a government.

The above was a statement made by Fru Ndi.
Fellow Comrades,
What do we understand by whether we can have a free hand as mentioned by Fru Ndi?What do we also understand by carry on with the socialist views of the Sdf party within the confines of such a government ie La republique government?I am interested in the later part of the statement within the confines of such a government.I would be delighted someone expounds on the above statement.Fru Ndi and the SDf supporters know crystal clear that within the confines of the La republique government,there can be no real democracy and application of so called social views.Time and experience have proved this beyond reasonable doubt.Yet there is no sign of any willingness to boycott La republique politics.The reason put forward to defend the Sdf participation in the election is flawed.I am wont to conclude that Ni Fru and his supporters know fully well that nothing good can result from from within the confines of La Republique but have also decided to remain within her confines,distort the vision of the Southern cameroonians and try to satisfy the insatiable greed of the SDf forerunners.It is greed that is keeping the Sdf within the confines of la republique and nothing else.I had expected Ni John to say since the social views cannot work from within the confines of la republique,he considers carrying on his social views from without and not within the confines of La republique.Why chain people with the fetters of La republique?Its a shame on Fru Ndi and all his blind supporters.The Southern cameroonians dont want to remain captives in the dungeons of la republique.

Peace Shall come from Total INdependence.

legima Doh,
SCnC

Fon

I am of the opinion that the SDF should take control of councils that the have won, except councils with government delegates. The local administration under the SDF will be in the interest of the people. However, it will be terrible mistake for the party to take up the parliamentary seats. They should boycott parliament.

"My own suggestion is that if the sdf are awarded upto 62 seats, they should accept and go in as this will avoid internal problems within the party" (Ernest)

Ernest, thinking of 62 seats to be awarded the SDF (by who?) is a futile dream; if the party decides to boycott parliament, it will definitely encounter some internal opposition, however, I assure you that the party will emerge stronger. Those who may want to fight such a decision, at least have some lessons to learn from Ben Muna.

"The subsequence SDF participation in elections in La Republique is credited to GREED, GREED, GREED, GREED, and GREED." (M Nje)

M Nje, I do agree with some of the points advanced in your analysis. However, from the above quotation and some other points raised, you seems to insinuate that the SDF is not a national party. How will your ideas about the SDF look like if a Fracophone replaces Fru Ndi as chairman of the party? Have you ever taken this into consideration when you analyse SDF issues?

M Nje

Ernest,
Here is what you wrote:
"I share the same opinion with you but don't you think that boycotting the councils and parliament will cost a total collapse of the party?. You know that they are members that have invested huge sum of money for this election and they are eager to take their seats either in the council or parliament."

Do you understand now why I say GREED, GREED, GREED, GREED. and GREED is what is behind your party’s continuous present in La Republiques politics. You jus provided more evidence to that point in the quote above. It is a business, one in which people go into parliament to make financial profit. They are actually being paid to be in parliament. But this is never communicated to the people.

Ernest, it is not about the man Ni John Fru Ndi. It is nothing personal about his person. It is about his politics. I have said here many times that I am not interested in SDF politics. You can go to Chad, Gabon, The Congos and set up another profitable business call political party. I don`t care. But when your party leadership and supporters try to misinform and mislead our people you will hear from us. If you want to take part in La Republique`s politics, take it to their territory. Don`t bring it to Southern Cameroons. We don’t just talk about the SDF. We are talking about all political parties including the CPDM, UPC, UNDP.

Your chairman has taken up residence in Yaounde. Your politics should be limited on the other site of the Mungo. I you do that you will not hear from us.

Ernest, if Obasanjo committed the electoral fraud and Yarádua is an accomplice for accepting the victory awarded to him does that make Yarádua innocent? I am surprise with you comment on this issue. An accomplices is as guilty as the one who committed the crime.

Fon, it does not matter to me who is at the head of the SDF. We don`t want the misinformation and deception brought to our people in Southern Cameroons. Whether it is brought in by the CPDM, SDF, UPC, etc etc.

M Nje

Ernest,
You surely may have forgotten that Obasanjo handpicked Yarádua as his successor. It will beat any logic to suggest that Yarádua was angel while the elections were said to be rigged.

Fon

M Nje,
I just wanted to point out to you that it out of place to think that the SDF is standing on the way of the SCNC. Don´t change tactics now to make a generalization to include the other political parties; I have never heard you et al accuse any other party for obfuscating the SCNC cause.
Therefore, the question again is, if the SDF is today headed by a Francophone, will still say it is the sole party slowing down the SCNC cause?

princekumba

Ernest, it is not about the man Ni John Fru Ndi. It is nothing personal about his person. It is about his politics. I have said here many times that I am not interested in SDF politics. You can go to Chad, Gabon, The Congos and set up another profitable business call political party. I don`t care. But when your party leadership and supporters try to misinform and mislead our people you will hear from us. If you want to take part in La Republique`s politics, take it to their territory. Don`t bring it to Southern Cameroons. We don’t just talk about the SDF. We are talking about all political parties including the CPDM, UPC, UNDP.

Ni M Nje
With all due respect,please,please when making your point try to limit it to your opinion.Just listen to yourself in your last posting above.Who do you think you really are?
The issue of the southern cameroon independence is suppose to be the problem of ALL SOUTHERN CAMEROONIANS,with those of the sdf inclusive.So if u think that intimidation and all sort of insults will help see you through,then go ahead.But remember,at the end of the day,all southern cameroonian views count.
Did u guys actually read through the postnews comments about the just ended election?Did u guys learn from it?Was their views in support of the opposition(sdf),or the scnc slogan of boycott?Why didnt u guys criticize that reporter neither the editor?Or since it now appears that it is the scnc that controls this padlock to ask them to stop writing anything good here about the sdf.I think the best thing u guys need to do is to create your own website where u will solely enjoy,preaching your gospel rather than mixing here with "fools" as u always claimed.

princekumba

massa man don tire with this scnc issue here.just the same issue every day.I guess we are all feeling the heat of that country and we should jointly either look for a solution as a team or forget it.More to that i think the scnc can still win the struggle with or without sdf.We all from that minority part of the country knows what we want,where we are coming,and where we are going.And we can decide for ourselves.No amount of pressure can change us.Thus,with all we have now in stock in regards to your preaching we can now make our choices.So u either take the step forwards,so that those who are interested will join u or we drop it rather than setting confusion without any head way.Tis high time to hit the target and restore our land or we better joint head to a party and free the country.Afterall,the northerners are also suffering.

princekumba


Nigeria blocks huge clinic deal
President Umaru Yar'Adua
Umaru Yar'Adua was hand-picked by Olusegun Obasanjo
Nigerian President Umaru Yar'Adua has ordered the suspension of a multi-million dollar contract awarded by his predecessor Olusegun Obasanjo.

The 18bn naira ($145m) contract to build health clinics across the country was awarded to a company believed to be owned by a former aide to Mr Obasanjo.

"It was an illegal contract," Mr Yar'Adua's spokesman told the BBC.

Last month, Mr Yar'Adua reversed the controversial sale of two refineries to a business group linked to Mr Obasanjo.

Nigeria is seen as one of the world's most corrupt countries - an image both Mr Obasanjo and Mr Yar'Adua have pledged to end.

Rule of law

The contract, awarded last year, was to build a primary healthcare centre in each of Nigeria's 774 local council areas.

President Olusegun Obasanjo
Olusegun Obasanjo still runs the ruling party
The contract was funded by compulsory deductions from each of the local councils' share of monthly oil revenue.

"There's no law backing it. It was being funded with illegal local government funds," President Yar'Adua's spokesman Olusegun Adeniyi told the BBC News website

This is the second time in less than three weeks that President Yar'Adua would be reversing a major decision taken by his predecessor and political benefactor.

Mr Adeniyi denied that President Yar'Adua was trying to prove his independence from his predecessor, who had been instrumental in his landslide win in last April's presidential polls.

"For President Yar'Adua, everything is about the rule of law and this contract was found to be illegal," Mr Adeniyi said.

Does the above article from bbc news bind those two leaders,because NI M NJE just said they are bird of the same feathers.BLACKMAILING,BLACKMAILING.

katakata

TO BE OR NOT TO BE! THE RECURRING DILEMA

March 1992

The SDF of FRU NDI refused to go in for the parliamentary elections, and the CPDM "won" with absolute majority...Years after Public Opinion blamed JFN for not going for those elections...DID he prove a point then?? NO! he didnt..


OCTOBER 11 1992

The SDF went in for the controversial PRESIDENTIALS and emerged 2nd due to " the fraud machinery" put in place by CPDM's comrade GILBERT ANDZE T. Then everybody who blamed the SDF for not taking part in the elections of MARCH 92 blamed the SDF for taking part in this election which they understood shall be rigged..Did JFN prove a point here?? YES he did...The point was that so long as elections were organized by MINAT there shall always be irregularities..


Today, people can still blame the SDF for taking part in an election which legitimizes the whole electoral process..True their ardent preparation and participation presupposes that they participated to WIN..But again they were cheated by another MINAT chieftain..MARAFAT AMIDOU YAYA..

THE ISSUE HERE IS A CRUCIAL DILEMA: A DILEMA OF WHETHER TO BE PART OF THE COINCILS AND PARLIAMENT FOLLOWING THE AWAITED RULING OF THE SUPREME COURT.

If the victorious SDF MPs and Councillors participate in the next Parliament in contrary to the position of NEC, then we shall have nothing against the party Hierarchy..But if their participation receives the blessings of NEC, then we should all remember to remind JFNDI of the proclamation he made in today's post.


FOR NOW LETS JUST SIT AND WAIT FOR THIS DILEMA TO UNFOLD..

TO BE OR NOT TO BE??? THAT IS THE QUESTION


KATAKATA

Ma Mary

Princekumba, Fon: thank you for your excellent points. Let me address a couple of little things that stood out:

MINORITY:
A couple of days ago, Ntemfac Ofege wrote an article which opened my eyes. I have been in this a long time, and still I learn. He pointed out the people of la Republique were a majority in their country, and we are a majority in our country. Our problem is not a minority issue; it is a problem of occupation, annexation and oppression by an illegal occupier. The facts and the law bear this out. A minority issue is what the Toupouri or the Yabassi might face in la republique. They theorists and propagandists of la Republique always try to boil our issue down to a tribal issue: the ridiculous anglo tribe. Do not buy that. It is a weak position.

THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS CAUSE
It is not the SCNC issue. It is the Southern Cameroons cause. The SCNC is just an instrument for carrying out the cause and the Southern Cameroons cause is of concern to all Southern Cameroonians. If you click the word "cause" here on this website, the 3rd definition for cause is:

A goal or principle served with dedication and zeal: “the cause of freedom versus tyranny” (Hannah Arendt).

Elsewhere, I pointed out that this is a cause. It is more than a job, more than entertainment, greater than family. It a reason for being; a reason for living, a reason to die. It is the basis and anchor of the lives of those dedicated to the cause. Therefore, you should expect to hear and see commentaries without end from those dedicated to the Southern Cameroons, a cause that concerns us all Southern Cameroonians.

THE BEEF WITH THE SDF
The SDF is the main opposition party of la republique. The problem is that the SDF is fishing in the same waters as the Southern Cameroons cause, and it misrepresenting itself as standing for and aiming for the same things as the cause. It is claiming that it is providing an alternative way, a viable option, but this is false, because this road will only entangle the Southern Cameroonians in other illegalities, such as the illegal and fake decentralization that la Republique keeps talking about. SDF's decentralization plan is anathema to the Southern Cameroons. It is another layer of entanglement that we cannot and will not entertain.

So, SDF fools our people that we can tweak this corrupt Gaullist system and fool the french and fool the Camerounese to obtain Southern Cameroons freedom. That is a lie. The frenchman together with the devil invented deception. You cannot fool a master of deceit by deception, but you can blind him with the truth. It is by straightforward tactics and principles that our freedom would be won, not by adopting the knavery of the enemy.

In this wise, fishing from the same pool and misrepresenting itself as pursuing Southern Cameroons liberty in order to gain votes, SDF is harming the Southern Cameroons cause or delaying its fulfillment, by distracting otherwise well meaning people who place hope in the false dreams of the SDF.

Ciao

Paa Ngembus

MA Mary,

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

It is not in my nature to say thank you so please Mama take it as an appreciation of what you just did.

In fact I am so happy with what you wrote that I will not insult anyone today.

It is so lucidly and succintly said that I hope that the Southern Cameroons Naysayers (despite their apparent lack of analytical skills) will read and digest it fully.

Fon and Co., you have the reason why we are gunning for the SDF.

The SDF is the greatest hindrance to our achieving our goal of DECOLONIZATION OF THE SOUHERN CAMEROONS.

The SDF was created by us to fight our cause (see Anyangwe, Mukong, Feko, Mucho, etc., etc.).

The frogs came and stole the SDF and turned it into the greatest enabler of our colonization.

The SDF must change or be banished to La Republique Colonie Francaise du Cameroun.

See you later.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

M Nje

Fon,
I will repeat what I said. I don`t care who the head of the SDF is. The The problem is the message of faslehood, deception, and misrepresentation that they preach to our people.READ WHAT MA MARY JUST WROTE ABOVE (Tuesday, 07 August 2007 at 09:43 PM). That is what i am talking about. Read it very very well.

You say we don`t go after other parties. Did you forget I have gone after ESPOIR and many others who have come here to defend the CPDM?.

simplice

Pa Ngembus, that was good of you. Please let your subsiquent comments reflect the above.

Ma Mary

People who cannot rise up to causes eventually become slaves to other people who have causes. To the French, "France" in itself is a worshipful cause; to the Americans, "freedom and the American Way"; to the islamicists, Islam or subjugation to Allah. Africans had better look for something to live for and to die for other than the basics of survival and conspiquous consumption. Africans exposed to power only want to steal and consume things that they do not manufacture. Case in point, that kleptocrat, Paul Beer.

Thankfully there is a core of Southern Cameroonians today, who have risen up to prosecute a just cause. That alone guarantees our victory. La republique of today is such a degenerate entity that it cannot raise the fire of a cause within its people.

Peace.

7512wilson

Hello Everyone
I am very concern about the claims by the SCNC that SDF is an obstacle to their goal. That concept is very misleading and untrue. If anything, Biya and the CPDM are the only obstacle to the dreams of the Southern Cameroon Movement. It is very normal for people to try to blame others for their shortcomings and failures. The SCNC cannot force people to join their movement and if that's what they are trying to do, then they are surely doomed to failure. The assumption that all people from North West and South West should automatically became SCNC sympathizers is frivolous and baseless. Democracy is dialogue and not force and i will suggest that those SCNC activists on this forum should change their tactics because they are actually turning people off and actually hurting the SCNC course as a result. I am a member of the SDF party and i have traveled and spend time in almost all the provinces in Cameroon. I have seen first hand and also experience the sufferings of Cameroonians under the Biya dictatorship. SCNC cannot convince me that the sufferings of those in the Southern Cameroons is distinct or different from the that of the rest of the country. Cameroonians are in pain under the present regime and all the SCNC activist can do is criticize the SDF and John Fru Ndi. This is very disturbing and unfortunate and frankly i am tired of this SCNC rhetoric. Those SCNC activists need to show some compassion for what the whole country is going through instead of bashing the SDF and John Fru Ndi simply because they care about all Cameroonians and are fighting to free all bleeding Cameroonians from this evil regime.

To hell with the Biya CPDM regime.

7512wilson

Hello Everyone
I am very concern about the claims by the SCNC that SDF is an obstacle to their goal. That concept is very misleading and untrue. If anything, Biya and the CPDM are the only obstacle to the dreams of the Southern Cameroon Movement. It is very normal for people to try to blame others for their shortcomings and failures. The SCNC cannot force people to join their movement and if that's what they are trying to do, then they are surely doomed to failure. The assumption that all people from North West and South West should automatically became SCNC sympathizers is frivolous and baseless. Democracy is dialogue and not force and i will suggest that those SCNC activists on this forum should change their tactics because they are actually turning people off and actually hurting the SCNC course as a result. I am a member of the SDF party and i have traveled and spend time in almost all the provinces in Cameroon. I have seen first hand and also experience the sufferings of Cameroonians under the Biya dictatorship. SCNC cannot convince me that the sufferings of those in the Southern Cameroons is distinct or different from that of the rest of the country. Cameroonians are in pain under the present regime and all the SCNC activist can do is criticize the SDF and John Fru Ndi. This is very disturbing and unfortunate and frankly i am tired of this SCNC rhetoric. Those SCNC activists need to show some compassion for what the whole country is going through instead of bashing the SDF and John Fru Ndi simply because they care about all Cameroonians and are fighting to free all bleeding Cameroonians from this evil regime.

To hell with the Biya CPDM regime.

M Nje

7512wilson,
Those of us who are supporting the Southern Cameroons cause do not want to interfere in the internal affairs of La Republique. We are not a legal part of their country. That La Republique has reminded many of you in the SDF that you are not part of them. Apparently you have a hard time hearing what they are saying. You keep on going to beg to be part of them. You keep on talking about the problems of their country when people like Etame Massoma have expressively told you to look for your own motherland. Hearing aides, hearing aides may do some good.

Our is a legal fight. It is a fight for our legal right to have a Southern Cameroons state, own mother land. Even if suddenly all Southern Cameroonians are handed vouchers in cash worth millions of dollars to change their standard of living, that will not stop the struggle. We are not fight just for this generation of Southern Cameroons, but the generals to come. Improving the standard of leaving of this generation with peanuts does not provide any hope for the next generation.

7512wilson, nobody is suggestion that all of your in the SDF must support the cause. You have a right to engage in politics in any country you so desire, from Chad, to Gabon, to Togo, to La Republiaue Du Cameroun. But don`t bring your SDF message to Southern Cameroonains because it is misleading, misinformation, and a falsehood. That is what we are talking about

Ernest

Rexon, ma mary, Mukete, M nje and the rest, It surprises me when you guys are all point accusing fingers to the sdf and it leaders as being a stumbly block to our indepedence. If we are accusing NI JOHN as being the obstacle to our independence, what then do we called Inoni, Achidi Achu, Fon Angwafor, B Ndeh, NFon mukete,Nnoko Mbelle? don't you guys know that Achidi and Inoni have told the UN that there is no anglophone's problem? Do you guys remember that sdf is a political party and not a pressure group as scnc? The sdf is there to fight for all Cameroonians and not only for us the anglophones b/c even the francophones are suffering too. In the netherlands where i live, there are francophone cameroonians seeking assylum onder scnc and sdf.Do you think they are happy with the situation of the country? No. The point i'm trying to make here is that the scnc can still succeed with or without the sdf if God willing but the above mentioned persons have to taking care of iether by assasination or any form.
If prof. Calson Anyangwe said the sdf was created to fight for the anglophones course then why did he take part with the sdf in 1992 prsidential election?

faarman

M nje, you did not say anything substantial to back what 751 Wilson said above. You just babbled to paint black the substantial facts he made about the egoism behind the scnc struggle. Your aggression on the SDF will not yield any fruits. Chase the right course which is the Biya regime and stop chasing the wind by sabotaging the SDF. loooooosers

UnitedStatesofAfrica

7512wilson, Ernest and Faarman, I just want to congratulate you guys on your brilliant analysis. Your writings are short, clear, straight to the point and meaningful. You don't choke your writings with big words, false history, cherry-picked evidence and misquoted facts like some other people on this forum do. That was just brilliant and I hope your detractors will take time to reflect on the questions you posed to them.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

and as for simplice, I know you are trying to be the mediator so that we can have more "mature" discussions rather than just insults but I don't see why you should be begging and compromising with Pa Ngembus not to use insults? he's not a child so let the man do and say whatever he feels. "Words reveal true character" Simplice, so let the man talk from his heart and people will know what kind of person he is.Thanks

M Nje

Faarman,
Talking about 'agreesion' you may have forgotten it was you chairman who went to Inoni begging that La Republique`s government should be hard on those supporting the Southern Cameroons cause. You may have forgotten it was he who call some of our sympathizer "wanted people" who should be arrest.

If telling you (in the SDF) thinks the way they are is "agression" so be it. But we are not going to seat and watch our people being mislead, misinformation, and told falsehood, a GREEDY few.

M Nje

Omissions: last sentence
But we are not going to seat and watch our people being mislead, misinformation, and told falsehood, BY a GREEDY few.

chief

Why would he (Marafa) not rigged the elections after all they fowarded a petition demanding the post of Prime Minister and am sure all eyes are on him though they still have conflicts amongs themselves because Amadou Ali has also shown interest in the post which marafa does not want to let go of it. He is bent on doing anything to make sure that his party which ofcourse he is a poli bereaux member wins so that they can secure a good number of seats in Parliament where they can carry one their secret affairs and do whatever rubbish they want to do at the detrement of the cameroonian population had it been we only had a strong opposition party to kick against this rubbish but we still see that the what so call SDF and their Chairman NJFD is still eating and dining with the devel Paul Biya Bi Mvondo him self and he goes about frustrating cameroonians that he is fighting for their interest it is clear that we have an indirect one party system of government now in this our fatherland.

Ma Mary

The SDF was created by Southern Cameroons activists, Wilson, but it lost its way, because they did not carefully define the groundrules before they launched it, and SDF is also a victim of marking time while history marched. Let me break down what I mean:

UNCLEAR AGENDA
The model for the SDF from the beginning should have been the Parti Quebecois in Canada, which has one aim, to break Quebec away from Canada. They participate in elections but their agenda is so clear that enemies have not been able to penetrate it. If the SDF had been created with a clear agenda, we would have been supporting it today and it would not have accepted:

ENEMY MONEY
The moment frog money started appearing in the coffers of the SDF, I knew that the game was over. That was the same time that Sam Elad, Munzu and Anyangwe emerged and created an alternative. This all happened also because the SDF has been:

MARKING TIME WHILE HISTORY MARCHED
At the time the SDF emerged the only thing "anglophones" were looking for was a voice in the francophonie monolith. Then, there were demands for return to the pre 1972 federation that came from AAC1 and AAC2. While these things were going on, SDF transformed from an "Anglophone Party" into a tool for discontented republikans. It got to NJFN's head and the heads of the SDF honchos as they were drawing crowds all over a foreign land. Meanwhile over time, the most advanced Southern Cameroons thinkers and scholars have developed deeper insights and researched the law and history to conclude that independence of the United Nations Trust Territory of the British Cameroons is the ONLY solution to our conundrum. The SDF is still marking time.

SDF is the ONLY political party that is deceiving people that there is a happy medium between total deannexation and total annexation. CPDM is the enemy pure and simple. SDF in our view is not dissimilar to what Jesus refers to as luke warm, neither hot nor cold that must be spewed out and vomited. Let us stop the formfooling and get on with it. Do not confuse the Southern Cameroons people so that they may speak with one voice. SDF is diluting the Southern Cameroons cause. Remember, it is not merely the SCNC.

Fon

M Nje, you said you don´t care who is at the helm of the SDF; your are argument must be baseless. You quest for an independent Southern Cameroon should not render you insensitve. It is only reasoning that can move you forward.

"But don`t bring your SDF message to Southern Cameroonains because it is misleading, misinformation, and a falsehood." (M Nje)
This is amazing. The best thing you can do is, go to the field with the right message to counter what you call "falsehood" from the SDF. The people will listen to you and the SDF and make their choice.

You and cohorts have absolutely no point to advance as a reason why you must forcefully stop the SDF from politics in a democratic world.
Do you know that the SDF is not a person?
The SDF enjoys a substantial support from Southern Cameroonians; don´t you think any attempt to fight the SDF is meant to fight those whom you need in your cause?
If you and cohorts are still sensitive, I repeat, the only way forward for you is to go to the field and counter what you determined "SDF falsehood" with a refulgent thesis; the people will listen to you and compare with what they have got so far from the SDF, then will make their choice. Anything short of this makes your argument prosaic.

DaDiceman

Ma Mary, the PostNewsline.com should be paying you for the free education you are providing on this forum!

simplice


From above comments, I think the SCNC attacking the SDF shouldn't be conceived as a wrong strategy:they're simply trying to rally their brothers who mostly constitute the party to their cause. Nay, they shouldn't forget, the real enemy is the regime in place and that the "the SDF is a fighter of the regime".The SDF and the SCNC have more similarities than differences. So brothers, please focus on your common ideologies and pay less attention to your differences.For there'll always be difference.
Professor Rexon has been absent for a while, we miss your comments.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

So simplice, let me ask you straight up, what side are you on and what political agenda do you support? forgive me if I'm wrong but you seem to be dangling between and trying to win praise from all parties involved.

simplice

USAfrica,
Many thanks for your question. It's a fair one indeed. Well to anwer you most sincerely, I'm an "Anglophone Cameroonian".At present, it will be great hypocracy on my part to say I ain't a Cameroonian.My birth certificate, I.D card and Passport give me that identity. I cannot err bad laundry in professing, I'm a Southern Cameroonian when legally I'm a Cameroonian. To this regard, any person professing to belong to the Southern Cameroons in "facts and deed" should be an asylum seeker who's renouncing his identity.So to be concrete, legally,I'm a Cameroonian.
Historically, in my veins flow the blood of a "Southern Cameroonian";so naturally, I'm a Southern Cameroonian.
To put fact straights as you had occaision to mention above, my interest on this forum is to learn. I cannot as of this moment say, I belong to this or that clan because, I'm alot ignorant.Consiquently,I will say : I'm neither SDF nor SCNC.I'm simply a student who will choose when he has learnt much from teachers of your calibre. I've always believed in life:"neutrality is the best student".
Your humble servant.

mk the southerner

the former President of the University of Buea Students' Union, UBSU, David Abia, who was arrested alongside five other UB students in connection with election violence in Buea, is awaiting trial at the Buea Central Prison.

The Post learnt that he was kept in custody on the instructions of the Procureur General. While the other students have been released, Abia is still being detained.

According to police sources, the Procurer General has the final say on whether Abia should be released or not.

What u people who enjoys the romance with frogs have to say about this? has fru mad any open statement concerning this young man who wanted to "protect his vote"?

My dear activist in this forum with all dough respect do u think what i am thinking?
Lets wait and see.

Dont say we didn't tell u!!! we have done our best.

Danny Boy

A few days ago, somebody asked me to nail my flag to the party I belong. I am SDF. I will remain SDF until the day I die.
I acknowledge the existence of other parties and pressure groups like the SCNC in Cameroon. That is what democracy is all about-freedom of association. To deny this will be dictatorial and whosoever thinks he/she can bamboozle, co-erce,and brainwash others into thinking against their will is but a Marxist Dictator.
The SDF is the party of my choice. It stands in nobody's way. Belonging to this party is one's choice. The party stands for a Federation of States. We have put this to the people and will continue doing same.
It is left for any other opposition to find a platform for their ideology and debate. We are not in your way at all, nor are we competing for the hearts and minds of Southern/West Cameroonians.
Go about your business and leave the SDF alone. I do not need to be insulted by some rabid (bull)dog to join your movement.
Long live Cameroon.

Ma Mary

DaDiceMan, thank you for the compliment, but of what I know about my country people, most are not even clicking on the ads here even out of curiousity, talk less buying something so we must support the post pro bono.

Let me help to resolve Simplice's dilemma: all those personal papers addressing him as "Camerounee" or "Cameroonian" over his Southern Cameroonian identity. I offer him the support of someone who has been pondering this for a long time and is now unambiguous in her identity as a Southern Cameroonian.

I ask you to take your imagination back to the mid 1950s. At that time agitation for African independence was in full steam all over West Africa. People like Kwame Nkrumah, Awolowo and Azikiwe were writing and organising. Everyone, including myself were identified as "subjects of the British Empire" and all their papers, including mine, reflected that reality, but at that time people were beginning to question that. India had gained its independence in 1947, and people there were no longer "subjects" but "citizens of India". So in our hearts and minds we had made the transition to a new reality, although the British colonialists had lost credibility and we no longer believed in their reality and were intent on creating our own reality.

Southern Cameroonians are at that point today. Some have already crosed that barrier mentally and spiritually. Simplice, mental and spiritual change is the most important thing, because in the final analysis, a country is something that exits as a mental, spiritual and emotional consensus. When that consensus goes away, nothing will prevent it from disintegrating. Dissolving that debilitating union in your heart and absolutely rejecting it, is the first step in any liberation for the Southern Cameroons.

In our opinion, terminating the union is the optimum choice for Southern Cameroons, based on certain legal and geographical advantages that we enjoy and that have been discussed here ad nauseum and have been read by all except those with crippling tunnel vision and obsessive turns of mind. I would not recommend that choice to the Igbos or the Bamileke. They do not have a ready basis to do that. They may discuss with their government, such remedies as decentralisation, defrenchification, corruption reform.

Us, we just need them to quit.

In summary, Simplice, changing your/our identity is a matter of law, but also a matter of will. If someone is an elementary student and want to be a lawyer, he starts doing those thing that lead him towards lawyerliness. He starts being.

There are those who do not want to be identified as Southern Cameroonians because it sound hokey. It has not been "recognized". They are ashamed of being the exception. People will ask questions. To me, this is a cause, and in a cause, you do things out of your comfort zone to move the agenda. You overcome trivial obstacles and be truthful to you beliefs. I tell you, our efforts are paying off.

mk the southerner

i acknowledge those mistakes above pls.

rexon

Danny Boy,

Nobody have ever forced you to belong to any movement that is not of your choice. But lying to people about a course that does not defend their interest and rights and does not even relate psychologically to them is a crime in its own right. So you should understand that your own political party turned NGO is in itself creating a problem that might degenerate to something else. They have been lying to people for quite a while and it is the moral responsibility of some of these people to say No to these lies.

Some corrections:

1-The SCNC is not a pressure group and we are not interested in pressuring anyone. It is a freedom front like many of the fronts that is geared on defending the rights for an independent statehood for the Southern Cameroons.

2-We are not interested in La Republiques politics and we have a problem with any institution that engages us into such falsehood and charades on our land.

3-We are not struggling to oust Biya as that is La Republiques business. We are here to defend our territory that have been colonised through the conspiracy of fake Southern Cameroonians that are both in the SDF, CPDM, CDU, UNDP, etc. These masqueraders and hypocrites including NJFN, Inoni, Achidi Achu, Ngolle Ngolle, etc interested in continuing french Neo-colonisation of our land must be flushed out.

Freedom and independence both mental and physical is an unquestionable need that has nothing to do with the number of following. The essential nature of a free person must be grounded on what counts as genuine knowledge based on the basic principles of reasoning. We are not forcing unto you or other Southern Cameroonians a set of claims, propositions, or theories that depends on particular thoughts, but we have forwarded a legal agrument that defends our quest for an independent statehood. We are an independent people that have nothing, virtually nothing to do with La Republique and even La Republiques own citizens have always informed you of that. In their parliament, campaign speeches, etc. They have always informed SDFers that they should carry their affairs to the Southern Cameroons. This in itself acts as a mockery to the Southern Cameroons political conciousness.

We are not struggling to address a process or pattern of inquiry itself. We have always presented facts to you here. If your own solution is the soo called federation, now the question is, under which platform and legal basis? Our continual focus on this struggle will be based on ethical reasoning and faith. We dont have any business with La Republiques politics and we will never do. We know that it is a lucrative business that has been paying most of you of, but we are not interested in such unscrupulous wealth. We want genuine change that must be grounded on the truth and from experience, that truth is very difficult to be accepted esspecially when fake millions can pass hands to intellectuals abroad and at home. Some things have real existance outside the mind and cannot be proven by mere talk here. But as far as i know, Danny Boy, we will triump even in the midst of traitors (the SDFers), i expect such traitors to still be in our midst. The SCNC and other fronts that have been defending our statehood is an idea that represents the real thing. It is a mental realism that once it locks into you, you cannot think anything apart from freeing yourself from it. So, we are not interested in your wealth, but on our independence. Dont provoke us with your ballot boxes but when you do, expect a backlash as we dont have any business with your NGO in Ntarikom. Our business is our independence and we are glad as time goes on, a lot of Southern Cameroonians are learning the truth.

Blessed Be.

Legima Doh

Thats good comrade Mk,for we have got nothing good to ever achieve from any union with la republique.All is continuous looting of our resources, rape,torture and all the other vices.No one said anything about Abia being kept in the buea prison.Its sad for us all seeing the malice that is inflicted on our brethren of the Southern cameroons.I am disgusted by all the doctrines based on the reasoning of falsehood that is put forward to justify any alliance with La republique and participation in her elections.Thank you Ma Mary,Rexon,M Nje for adhering to the truth.Ni John Fru advocated carrying on his social views within the confines of the government of La republique thereby saying in other words that he is not for the view of a total independence and restored statehood and sovereignty of the southern cameroons.Had he said he considers carrying on his views out of the confines of the government of La Republique,a great impetus would be given to the cause.I dont know why he should cling to la republique to such an extend that he is being badly ridiculed.It must be Greed Mk the Southerner and nothing more than Greed,Egocentric Motives.People keep on defending the Sdf within the confines of la republique governments and we keep on getting our brother shot dead,tortured to death,maimed, raped,and so on.Ma Mary I want to thank you for your insightful comments.It is an insult to say that identifying ourselves as Southern cameroonians is pointless.When you say you are a cameroonian what do you mean.I don't know whether you dont know saying you are a cameroonian is understood to mean you a la republican.La republique du cameroun is the name of the cameroon you are talking about and that name is the name of the east cameroon prior to independence.we are the southern cameroonians who attained independence and pseudojoined la republique.the result was a kind of united republique which was later annulled by la republique to rename it la republique.That was the dawning point of the destruction of our identity,statehood and sovereignty.By denying the name southern cameroonian,you re in other words accepting the destruction of your identity and falsely identifying yourself with the francophones.They know you are not part of them and have shouted this aloud several times.Lets all listen and hear.

Peace upon our motherland.

Legima Doh,
ScNc

Legima Doh

Comrade Rexon,
I checked today but you had not replied to what we discussed.I look forward to hearing from you.Cheers!

Peace Upon our motherland.

Legima Doh,
ScNc

felix

“SDF in our view is not dissimilar to what Jesus refers to as luke warm”
Ma Mary spares us the Bible oh oh please! Please! Please!
When I read your message I went down on my Knees and pray to God asking for your forgiveness.
Ma Mary a notorious homosexual, what did Jesus refers to homosexuality? I am not surprise you have the guts and courage to mention the Name Jesus. Well Jesus told us that many will use his name to spread false believes, the Devil will use it to convince lost sheep. That’s your position in this forum, spreading false doctrines and nonsense political ideology. “If your Adoro don di finish park your belongings and return to Africa and stop poluting this forum”

7512wilson

Rexon
You surprise me sometimes, listen to yourself "We are not struggling to oust Biya as that is La Republiques business".
What in the world was that about?. In what conceivable way do you thing the SCNC can achieve their goal with Biya still in power. What is wrong with this SCNC people?. I am tempted to come to the final conclusion that these SCNC activist are living in a dream world. Please Rexon, would you kindly tell us then how the SCNC will achieve their final objective with Biya still in power. Explain to us the logic.
You see,the actual problem with these SCNC activists is that, they are very stubborn and unwilling to learn or receive good advice.
Well, i guess your business is not to oust Biya but to oust Fru Ndi and the SDF. For your information, SDF is the hand that feeds the SCNC struggle and SCNC better be grateful to Fru Ndi and the SDF for haven made it this far.
I rest me case for now.

Ma Mary

Dear Felix, Lord of the Gay Closet and vacuous ad hominems, you are evidently overwhelmed and out of your depth.

Paa Ngembus

FuckAm alias USAfrica alias Rastaman,

I see you learned your lesson the hard way.

You now know that if you insult, belittle or trash any Southern Cameroons Freedom Fighter you will get same.

So you have learned to debate sanely. That is good. Congratulations.

My policy is, if you attack me or one of mine, I will pump you full of lead. If you give them a black eye, I will give you a broken skull.

So, Wilson, Homosexuel favori Felix (alias Riccardo - I thought you died of AIDS man) and the rest, just watch your language

My advice to you FuckAm is, go to your frog network CIN and defend Fru Ndi there. The frogs (Rumulus,TNA,Essingan, 5-eme-element, etc., etc.) are tearing Fru Ndi to pieces with your tacit support on CIN. What are you trying to prove to us "stupid" Anglos pretending to defend Fru Ndi and the SDF here. Go and defend your party on CIN (if you really support the party).

Damn hypocrite.

The problem with you frogs is that you are so dishonest you can never be trusted.

No one should ever sleep around you with both eyes closed. Southern Cameroonians made that mistake and I am here to insure that they should never do it again.

Your problem is, I am one of you so I know you like a book.

You are a disgrace to decent humanity.

I think when the words were created "genteleman" was anglo-saxon and "crook" was franco-latin.

Think about it FuckAm the Feyman.

BTW, FuckAm were you in Lycee Nkong in the late 80s/early 90s? I know you made a stint at Sasse so don't repeat it to me. Just answer my question.

I am just curious.

See you later.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

Paa Ngembus

Wilson Leather,

If there is anyone living in lala land, that person is you.

Do you really think that because you cowardly frogs have been unable to take care of Beer Paul (Ma Mary thanks) that we will be unable to decolonize the Southern Cameroons in his lifetime?

Think again filston.

Even South Africa was liberated with Botha alive.

British Africa possessions were decolonized with the Queen of England alive.

Like the brave Southern Cameroonians Rexon, MK, Doh, Ma Mary, etc., etc., etc. have said, Beer Paul is your problem, so go take care of him.

Leave the Souhern Cameroons decolonization to us. We do not need the help of your ilk. Just stay out of our way OK.

Later kido.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.


7512wilson

Paa Ngembus or whatever you call yourself, You really sounded miserable in your last two comments. I feel sorry for you.I think You need to seek some help. Let me know if i can be of any help brother.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

7512wilson, Dadiceman, felix, Dannyboy, I just want to applaud you guys on your writings. Good job, I am happy that a lot of people with different opinions are openly voicing them out despite the non-stop propaganda from a group of toothless bulldogs.
As for Paa Ngembus, please my wise men ignore such insanity. You reduce your level to that of a beast if you argue with a monster like him. Such unruly behavior belongs to the zoo and not to our modern habitat.
So SCNC, you are planning to achieve your goal with Biya in power? how exactly do you plan to do that? what exactly is your strategy? I keep asking this question but surprisingly no one ever gives me a practical answer. I will ask one more time, what exactly is SCNC'S plan as of today to achieve your goal with Biya still in power. Please Ma Mary and your other intellectual giants, carefully outline the strategy when answering the question. Please, don't give me empty answers like we would get the support of southern cameroons, we would go to the UN, we have the right to govern ourselves. Please I want the STRATEGY AND NOT YOUR GOAL. I REPEAT, I WANT A STRATEGY AND NOT A GOAL. I would have gone along and repeat that your freedom front, history club, pressure group, internet community( or whatever you call yourselves these days) a baseless group with no agenda. But I will wait for your urgent response before I jump into hasty conclusions.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

I can see "comrade rexon" and "comrade legima" are here in search of pen pals or pen friends. They keep exchanging e-mails and addresses every week. Well, congrats on your new "friendship" but as you exhange e-mails on your Chinese laptops, try to come up with practical solutions like on this day, would do this and that.During this month, we would go to this place and do this and that. By this day, we expect to do this and that. That is the difference between a practical solution and a passionate goal. I am just plain fed up of coming to this site everyday and going through the excruciatingly pain of reading your dramatic monologues about history and rights of self-determination. Mandela didn't cram textbooks, he took to the streets and served jail time. George Washington and his men fought the British in Virginia under heavy rain. Please, I am expecting the answers to my my questions. Thanks in advance for your answers.

mk the southerner

WE ARE NOT SEEKING THE RESTORATION OF OUR LAND FROM PAUL BIYA. WE DID NOT GO TO ASK PAUL TO TAKE NIGERIA TO COURT NOR DID WE ASK HIM BEFORE WE TOOK LA REPUBLIQUE TO THE AFRICAN COURT. AND THE UNPO DID NOT ASK HIM BEFORE ADMITTING US FINALLY THE UNITED NATIONS HUMAN RIGHT COUNCIL DID NOT ASK HIM BEFORE ASKING THE SCNC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL BEFORE THE VERY EYS OF THEIR AMBASSADOR TO THE UN WHO WAS ASK TO GIVE A RESPONSE. SO DO U SEE WITH ME NOW THAT WE NEED NOT SEND BIYA OUT OF HIS COUNTRY BEFORE WE CAN GET WHAT WE WANT?. INFARCT WE REALLY WANT HIM TO BE THERE.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

still does not answer my question, what is the comprehensive strategy to achieve your goal????

Paa Ngembus

FuckAm alias USAfrica,

You sneaky dishonest little pig.

You must think all Southern Cameroons Freedom Fighters are fools.

Why on earth do you think we should be publishing our strategy on the web or releasing it to our enemies including "les ennemis dans la maison" like you Mr Bami Refugee?

You can shout until you become blue in the face. We shall never release any details that may even help you glean or guess our strategies.

You will not get it from SCNC, SCAPO, SCYL, AMBAZONIA or any other group fighting to liberate the Southern Cameroons.

We shall keep on surprising you and your paymasters from La Republique Colonie Francaises des Homosexuels (Felix) et Feymens Corrompus (FuckAm) du Cameroun.

We shall without notice continue to disgrace you at the UN, the African Union, the International Court of Justice, etc., etc., etc.

You will never know when we are about to blow your brians off.

La Republique can pay as many snitches and traitors of your ilk as they want.

You will never know our next move.

Ungrateful traitor. Go to hell.

Filthy snitch.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Paa NgemGOAT oh I mean Ngembus, you seem to have run out of insults because you keep repeating the same insults over and over again. I am happy to hear that the SCNC has a strategy and they are planning on their next move. I just hope that when you guys will make your next move, we will still be alive. I don't want to get old and die before you make your next move.
Also, each time you are done criticizing the SDF, Fru Ndi etc, make you the SCNC Provides an alternative solution which is better. They should not only provide a solution, they should implement it. Don't be the empty critic who criticizes because of impulse, jealousy and foolishness. Be the critic who criticizes because they can do better. Thank you!!!!

Paa Ngembus

Thanks Mr Feyman FuckAm alias USAfrica.

I love eating goat meat so no harm done there.

No, I haven't run out of insults. I give nincompoops like you a packet of insults. That is all that is in your packet. So be thankful Bozo.

We will try to make sure many things happen in our lifetime. In fact I will like to see you come to me in Buea in not such distant a future and say "Paa Ngembus, you were right and I was wrong". Then I would ask you to turn your smelly hinie so I can give it a good kick with my boots -:) -:) -:).

Just kidding.

On a more serious note. Yes we do have a plan to govern the country after we take control. It includes free and fair elections and government by the people's elected representatives.

We shall however disqualify the candidacies of snitches like you if you dare even to dream of running. We are watching all of you (especiall the ungrateful refugees) and we will not allow turn coats after independence. So you better change now my little Froggie.

However, you shall have a choice to keep your Southern Cameroons citizenship if you wish or go back to your rat hole in La Republique. Do you even know where that your Bami village is located anymore? At least I know where my Bassa village is.

BTW, you still have not answered my question Mr USAfrica alias Rastaman.

WHY ARE YOU NOT DEFENDING FRU NDI AND THE SDF ON YOUR FROG NETWORK CIN????????

Are you really a hypocrite?

See you later snitch.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Pa NgemGOAT, I am sorry to disappoint you but Fuckam and I are two different people who have two very different ideologies. Also, I am from Kedjom ketinguh, small Babanki and not Bami. If you and your SCNC history club think that unhealthy propaganda and blackmailing will give you success, I am so sorry for you. Wait! what am I doing? am I arguing with a monster? am I trying to debate a ferocious beast? so silly of me. I should know better than to get into a conversation with a wilder beast because no sense comes out of it. My apologies

mk the southerner

Infarct we have learned much on how to rule are country. And we know how to be good leaders too. the secrete is simple do the opposite of Paul Biya. What Paul sees as a good policy implement it in you country as a bad policy, what he sees as a bad policy implement it as good policy u will be the best leader for any thing French is wrong!!!

MK

Paa Ngembus

Mr Feyman FuckAm alias USAfrica,

Little Bami reject. So you are running from yourself now?

Don't worry we will get you in your proper skin.

Small ungrateful bamilikong. So you do see na Kedjom Ketingoh now weh na your village eh.

We will flush all of you out like we use to flush out rat moles in the village i.e with ground hot dry peppers and smoke. You will come out coughing your lungs out.

We knew when push came to shove some of you will reject your identities.

We know you by your speech Bozo.

You will not be able to hide from us imp.

So how much is La republique paying you to impersonate a Babanki man and betray the Southern Cameroons?

Little treacherous snitch.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

Paa Ngembus

Mr USAfrica alias Rastaman.

You still have not answered my question.

WHY ARE YOU NOT DEFENDING FRU NDI AND THE SDF ON YOUR FROG NETWORK CIN????????

Don't you think you are a real hypocrite?

How much is La republique paying you to betray the Southern Cameroons, you ragtag descendant of refugees?

Filthy snitch.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

Ma Mary

Strategy includes the following definitions according to our linked dictionary:

1.
1. The science and art of using all the forces of a nation to execute approved plans as effectively as possible during peace or war.
2. The science and art of military command as applied to the overall planning and conduct of large-scale combat operations.
2. A plan of action resulting from strategy or intended to accomplish a specific goal. See synonyms at plan.
3. The art or skill of using stratagems in endeavors such as politics and business.

I have no idea what your education or background is, USAfrica. but strategies are never made public when there are opponents with hostile intentions or competitors in any field. It could be sport, games, business, politics or war. To reveal one's strategy is to announce one's moves and thinking to the enemy.

unitedstatesofafrica, I am now compelled to ask you whom you are working for? We shall not discuss such specifics with you or ever in public. Any baby who plays backyard football knows that you do not discuss strategy with hostile parties and you are a hostile party. Now, can we move on?

Legima Doh

Great Courage Paa Ngembus.I tell you what,you are very brave man and have stood outrightly against any falsehood that is preached against our liberation.They use vile adjectives to describe you but that has not hindered you from standing on the truth.MOre power to your elbows and same to the elbows of all the comrades who are in the truth about the plight and ultimate solution of our motherland.

Peace Upon the Southern cameroons land.

Legima Doh,
ScNc

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