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tayong

Modi
Your intentions might've been scores settling and your motives might as well been dubious but it goes without saying that had Cameoon got MPs with the guts to challenge the status quo, we wouldn't be where we're today.

Oftentimes such face offs are needed to get things done. Your actions as comestics as they looked beckon more of such from anyone who calls himself/herself an MP.

CPDM or SDF.....or whatever isnt the issue but unfornately what obtains in Cameroon is either a group of ignorant egoistic CPDM handclappers or lump of pathetic money mongering opposition MPs. Are we blessed or cursed?

MPs with doubtful criminal records, fraudstars, emblezzlers,drug Lords,heavy taxe evaders and what have you, yet they make laws for the country.Who to abide by those laws? How can Cavaye himself the chief electoral fradstar from the North condemned even by the Episcopal conference for votes buying (promised to offer 100 thousand CFA to each polling station that voted 100% CPDM) become President of the National Assembly?

Whats wrong with Cameroon and Cameroonians? Where are the Reuben Om Nyebe, Atangana, Ernest Ouandi, Ayissi Mvondo,The Anyangwes,The Munzus, etc etc to start an uprising in this country? I think the time is now. Freedom is not free!

Oh God help us!

mk the southerner

Does the sdf have any use in this so called parliament?. Except for end of the month?

etange

Though Hon. Modi might have been trying to settle a personal score, i sure do admire his courage, i wish he could present a similar challenge to the CPDM chairman come next congress, cameroon is simply desprerate for change, even CPDM can bring change to our country if we have the right people

Kumbaboy


Hon Modi's intemperance smacks of the foiled 1984 coup d'etat - ill-prepared and vindictive.

It takes planing and bold campaigning to unseat the self-serving order of the day. Had Hon Modi declared his candidacy a week ago and explained why he wanted the job to his colleagues, the outcome could have been different.

The SDF would never have been launched had John Fru Ndi waited to disrupt a CPDM conference. The regime not only threatened Fru Ndi but went on to murder 6 young Cameroonians that fateful day in Bamenda. Ultimately, Fru Ndi delivered Multiparty Democracy to Cameroon through the power of cool brain cells.

Hon Modi, you need to learn from Ni John Fru Ndi. Bravado and intemperance do not go far.

KB

tayong

Kumbaboy
Without contradicting nor corroborating you either I would like to say we give honour to whom honour is due. If we had the likes of Modi, no matter the platform change can still come. By the way real architects of democracy to whom bravo and imtemperance can be alluded vis-a-vis Cameroon democracy isnt Mr John Fru Ndi et co but Yondo Marcel Black, Albert Mukong and Fon Dinka, Tata Menta etc etc .

These unfortunately forgotten heroes braved all odds in the early 90s to challenge Biya's autocracy. Mr John Fru Ndi,with due respect , only took off from where they left. They never lauched any veritable party campaigns , they spoke out vehemently, they held press conferences, they etc amidst all the mud-slidging, threats to life,imprisonments etc.

I remember on that horrible friday ,Yondo Black stood before Lieutenant Colonel Adamu Nchankou, assisted by Colonel Antoine Onana and Colonel James Chi Ngafor(now languishing in jail himself)and declared this

""...We tried to reflect on why we are in a crisis, on what ails Cameroon. It is corruption, laxness, judicial decisions that are either not taken or simply ignored, and embezzlement. If we had a counter-power, the effects [of these ills] would have been lessened… I am in favor of multipartism. The single party does not guarantee stability. It is delusional to believe that the single party is an agent of development.

Mine was not an act of bravery. I had a duty to use my knowledge to enlighten my fellow citizens. I wanted to initiate a political debate that the Cameroonian had been deprived of for too long. I assume my responsibilities. I am a democrat... I am not afraid to go to prison. I am a transparent and upright man and I have never cheated in my entire life.

We should not allow change to come only through violence or street protest. On the day this trial began, I declared that it was a glorious day for Cameroonian democracy... When the time comes for posterity to judge our actions, it will first of all judge the action of the judges in this trial".


So whats my point? Not everyone needs to lauch a political party campaign before briging change to this unfortunate nation. Your voice even here counts. Lets take this scenario Kumbaboy:

Out of the fake 143 CPDM MPs or so..we have just 10 dissents crossing party lines , then by some stroke of luck the SDF money mongers in there pick up some steam and join these ten MPs to stand up to the oligarchy in Yde , what would happen? Your guess is as good as mine.

Cheers KB
Tayong

Watesih

Kumbaboy,
Thanks for that observation.Anybody from the North/South axis of neocolonial mentality can never usher in change.It beats my imagination how people easily forget what they read on this forum.Less than two weeks ago,present,and former members of government from the northern part of the country held a meeting ,where the crafted the doom of CavayeYeguie,having been unnerved by his phenomenal vote-buying spree.To confirm the appellation 'mouton' which comes out of popular contempt, they failed to know a palace coup needs some narcissitic dexterity
,and not bullheadedness.In that meeting that had the blessing of Marafa Hamidou Yaya,they pondered on who to take on Cavaye,and settled for an elderly man like Dishonourable Modi.This is the highest level of stupidity.If there has not been primaries in the Cpdm,how comes Mr Modi would skip all the lower rungs of that ill-fated party to challenge the depository of arbitrary power?
The simple fact of reasoning aloud what he and his fellow tribesmen had concocted in darkness, and trying to unceremoniously put it into effect ,gives a clear picture of how power has been hijacked in Cameroon for more than two decades.We cannot describe this as guts, but as the actions of some old, disheartened, and disgruntled self-seeking power grabbers.It will be foolhardy to start celebrating Dishonourable Modi`s actions,
when he smears himself with filth by saying Cavaye had tried to kill him.Even a blind man will know he is also trying to kill Cavaye ,but in a very spectacular way.How would he want to put an end to the party`s tradition of handpicking hollowmen,but at the same time reducing the fight to factional squabbles? Less than a forthnight ago,Cameroonians just gave a wry smile when Frederic Koddock started throwing rocks on the Cpdm.This is because he was trampled upon during the elections,and now sees how power is abandoning him.

Tayong,

Just hold yourself together!That smacks of denial,and intellectual dishonesty.You may want to educate us a bit on where your heroes left off,before Fru Ndi took off.We
are contemporaries,and making sweeping statements to p the star will not help in anyway.Yondo Black initiated action,and immediately after Fru Ndi took the bull by the horns.Did Yondo go on for years ,before Fru Ndi finally mustered courage? Even those like Mukong,Feko,Wakai who initiated this SDF issue lacked the courage that you are now denying Fru Ndi.The way you write doesn`t present you as the honest person you always want to pass for.By stroke of luck the SDF MPs joined the dissent! When the SDF initiated dissent and brought the likes of Mounchipou to their knees ,where did the stroke of luck come from? This smacks of denial,and comes out of frustration.When Fru Ndi launched the SDF,the Dinkas, Tata Mentans were there,and are still there.Do you want to tell the world that since Fru Ndi took off where they ended off,he asked them not to offroot Biya?
Why did they end off somewhere with Biya still waxing strong?

rexon

It is funny the way commentators in this forum easily forget what they read here. The true colours of these hypocrites masquerading as an opposition need to be opened by now. They are seemingly not different from their partners in crime (CPDM). A few days ago, they were telling us through their spokesperson Feli that we should not access the implications of an election whose "official results" have not been announced. Now that the soo called "official results" have been announced, i hope they just continue their job, rather than lying to themselves that they are an opposition. NJFN and cohorts have just one business in that fake democracy: to colour this dictatorial regime in the eyes of the international community. We are watching them and will take care of them as we are fighting the CPDM.

Cheers.

rexon

Tayong

"then by some stroke of luck the SDF money mongers in there pick up some steam and join these ten MPs to stand up to the oligarchy in Yde"

This is wishful thinking. I say so because, the money mongers of the SDF are just there to colour that democracy. So they would be the first to betray any course with any good intention. Beware of them particularly their leader Mbah Ndam.

Cheers.

tayong

Watesih
Have a look round freedom movements.You've got freedom igniters and freedom movement leaders. Whether you call them Martin Luther K or Mandela or Mahat Ma Ghandi or Reuben Om Nyebe they led movements for which they werent the igniters or forerunners.Give honour to whom honour is due.

In the case of Cameroon the people I mentioned remain heroes in their own rights.Simply because Mr John Fru Ndi took off and led the democracy crusade doesnt make the igniters of such any much less than him.Or arguing that since Fru Ndi "took the bull by the horns" make him more a hero than the one who uncovered the bull itself holds no water.

BTW the issue here isnt about who is more a hero than the other but commendable actions geared towards radically changing Cameroon. Ndodi's brouhaha is simply empty hot air but it raises candid hopes about the possibility of a popular uprising even from within the CPDM.

Watesih

Tayong,
Thanks for catching your breath as requested,and trying to refocus the dabate that you took out of focus.Your initial argument was that Fru Ndi could not be counted a hero since he only took off where your igniters ended off.It is funny to see you make an abrupt about turn, and think the person who uncovers the bull is as heroic as the one who takes the bull by the horns.The argument here is not whether Yondo Black,Mandela,Sankara are not heroes.The cruz of the matter here has to do with an inconsequential apprenti revolutionary who has little knowledge of palace coups.It is a laughable piece of publicity to think the SDF is banking on luck,but at the same time celebrating,and nursing hopes about the possibility of a popular uprising in the Cpdm, brought about by the hot air from people like dishonourable Modi.If you treat somebody who launched one of the first,and strongest political forces in Cameroon ,as not being one of the architects of democracy,then you are nothing short of being dishonest.Continue waiting for an uprising within the ranks of the Cpdm.That is certainly better than the luck that intermittently smiles on the SDF! You guys keep wishing us well with the party,but keep cosying up to it.
I will end by asking some of you to keep dishing out the stale soup about the SDF colouring La Republic`s politics.This is as far as you can go.When the elections came around,some of your partners around the world tried censorship to shut us up,but that has not put the SDF on their plates.The SDF`s survival does not depend on the few parliamentary seats,and councils allocated it after every election by the Cpdm,but on popular appeal.When some of you must have realised this then you will know you will always lose all you battles against this party.It is ridiculous to tell the world that the SDF is working hand in glove with the Cpdm,but only openly declare war on the Cpdm.Say it clearly that you want to fight the SDF,as you say of the Cpdm,and tell Cameroonians how u are going to go about it,and where it is going to lead you.Repeating the same old vague sing-song
of colouring La Republique`s politicis ,and proposing nothing concrete shows how the SDF is torturing your little minds.

Fon

Watesih,
I agree with you that "dishonourable" Modi´s action is the is the highest level of stupidity. However, my reasons to qualify his action as the highest level of stupidity may differ from yours. If this man was not out for a joke, he would have done some underground work, i.e. discussed inadvance with some of his colleages whom he thought could support his candidature and his normination would have been done by one of them.

Tayong,
You have no point to offer on the issue; you were unnecessary bias. When I first read what you wrote, I thought someone was impersonating you.

tayong

Fon
Talking about bias sounds biased itself.Answer me this questions? Is it the person who thinks that the architects of change are much less heroic than the vehicle of change or the one who affirms that honour should be given to whom its due who is biased? Well your response might not differ anyway but albeit you got me.

Watesih
I dont resort to any panda bearing nor I do
become paddy to make a point.Im still to figure out if you were responding to my concerns or talking to Rexon or querelling with the chinese govt internet sensorship. I cant really figure it out. Who's talking about SDF survival here? Lest you forgot, we're debating on who can bring radical change and by the way your assertion that no change can come from the North-South Axis is unsubstantiated.

That points goes to demonise a section of the populace.By saying that you probably want to underpin the point that change can only come from the Grand West and probably through the SDF and by so doing buying into the argument that the SDF is a North West Party, do you?

Well I still stand by my position.It doesnt matter to me how that change happens or who brings it about.CPDM or SDF or whatever,Cameroonians are tired of rhectorics.Vote for me and tomorrow the earthquake will take place and the sun will stop shinning, patata patati

Thats where we commend the actions of the heroes I mentioned bc they never solicitated any mandate to prove their worth.Its more of boldfacedness than mandatory

Hope you stick to the issues
Cheers , Tayong

tayong

Fon
Talking about bias sounds biased itself.Answer me this questions? Is it the person who thinks that the architects of change are much less heroic than the vehicle of change or the one who affirms that honour should be given to whom its due who is biased? Well your response might not differ anyway but albeit you got me.

Watesih
I dont resort to any panda bearing nor I do
become paddy to make a point.Im still to figure out if you were responding to my concerns or talking to Rexon or querelling with the chinese govt internet sensorship. I cant really figure it out. Who's talking about SDF survival here? Lest you forgot, we're debating on who can bring radical change and by the way your assertion that no change can come from the North-South Axis is unsubstantiated.

That points goes to demonise a section of the populace.By saying that you probably want to underpin the point that change can only come from the Grand West and probably through the SDF and by so doing buying into the argument that the SDF is a North West Party, do you?

Well I still stand by my position.It doesnt matter to me how that change happens or who brings it about.CPDM or SDF or whatever,Cameroonians are tired of rhectorics.Vote for me and tomorrow the earthquake will take place and the sun will stop shinning, patata patati

Thats where we commend the actions of the heroes I mentioned bc they never solicitated any mandate to prove their worth.Its more of boldfacedness than mandatory

Hope you stick to the issues
Cheers , Tayong

Fon

Tayong,
"By the way real architects of democracy to whom bravo and imtemperance can be alluded vis-a-vis Cameroon democracy isnt Mr John Fru Ndi et co but Yondo Marcel Black, Albert Mukong and Fon Dinka, Tata Menta etc etc ." (Tayong)

Going by the above quotation,did you include Fru Ndi in the list of those who deserve honour?
Watesih has already pointed out to you that you are trying to refocus the debate. Your original view was that Fru Ndi´s role was minimal; when confronted, you are now trying to tell us the role of the architect of change and that of the vehicle of change are all important, a thing nobody disputes.
You initial point was that Fru Ndi should not be counted among those you consider heroes; the reason I saw you to biased.

If can´t still see how much you became shocked in bias, read this: "then by some stroke of luck the SDF money mongers in there pick up some steam and join these ten MPs to stand up to the oligarchy in Yde ," (Tayong)

tayong

Mr Fon
I guess you've got some catch up to do.If you want to quote me well, you need go back to where that allusion was first made. I still stand firm by my point to Kumbaboy who originally brought up bravo asking anyone to learn from Mr Fru Ndi.Go back there and quote correctly if you want to quote me.

Secondly I stand my by view of the SDF MPs are money mongers. Prove me wrong Mr Fon.
Then I will contrast you vividly.Or do you now equate them to CPDM MPs?Maybe yes, then you'll find yourselve eating up your own words

7512wilson

Hon. Modi's action what ever it is perceived to be is just a sign of things to come. Before long, the CPDM will eventually split into factions and chaos will become the order of day. Even those in the CPDM are starting to get tired of Biya's dictatorship and are worried about the future of their children and great grand children. I remain hopeful and prayerful that change will soon make its way through. It is only a matter of time.
God bless Cameroon.

Watesih

Tayong,
My comment was directed at you,and those persons ,and groups who under same circumstances do everything to demonise the SDF.You say my claim that no change can come from the North/south axis is unsubstantiated ,yet you want to force unsubstantiated views on people that they should expect a popular uprising in the Cpdm.I can give examples within the ranks of the Cpdm like Milla Asoute`s dissidence ,Momorandum written by former memebers of government from the north. Where did all of these end? This axis has been there for forty years ,and we are still going down.Everybody understands you.
In your bid to demonise the SDF,it is only but normal to count on the actions of selfish individuals like Modi to bring about an uprising in the Cpdm.Lest we are shortsighted,Milla Asoute even took on Biya himself,and soon came to terms with his foolhardy.Finally ,it is hard for you to pretend to stand firm by your point of not giving to Caesar what belongs to him.By accepting that the deeds of the person who uncovers the bull are as heroic as those of the person who takes the bull by the horns,
makes you to eat your own words.Your dash at the SDF this time around cannot pay off as has been the case in many other instances.
Try next time!

Pa-Teh

Untill another bootlicker shall be able to muster enough courage too to challenge the carnivorous Biya in the next Presidentials, then shall we believe their brains have started to function.

Kumbaboy

Tayong,

What all is said and done, Ni John Fru Ndi will be remembered as the Lion who gave back multiparty politics to Cameroun (LRC). He did it by braving all odds. The regime was determined to crush the revolution, could have crushed the SDF seed but was wisely cautious of Frances Cook - activist US Ambassador in Yde at the time.

The intellectuals you cited, including Yondo Black, also contributed by advocacy. My kind of people (MKOP) make a distinction between advocacy and practice, and credit the latter more.

Fru Ndi is and remains the father of multi-party democratic renaissance in Cameroun.

Francis/Germany

Greetings to you all "fellow Cameroonians",
i have a different approach to this issue. I am certain that Mr Modi was just trying to air his fustration at the dictatorship of the CPDM. The question here is why didn´t he take the right chanel of presenting his candidature before time? Very easy to answer. He was wasn´t seriously vying for that post. He just wanted to pass a message of distontentment. He would have been warned and threathened if he had ventured to present his candidature before. He certainly has nothing to lose. I think he succeeded in creating the chaos and giving others the courage to stand against the dictators.

Secondly , i find it just boring to keep on reading this same nonsence everytime. It is really funny that the Rexon´s, Tayong´s, and the others woldn´t miss any opportunity to express their hatred for te SDF and NJF. The worst part of it all is, they never have anything better to offer other than distructive criticism. you guys are simply boring. Tell us your plan for a better Cameroon or better still a better Southern cameroon. Hahahhahahaaa. You amuse me people. Are you not tired and ashamed of writing thesame things time and again. But i must praise one person here and that is rexon. I have realised that you no longer post one and thesame thing as was the case before. good you have understood that the way to success is not just critisizing put proposing a better plan.
Tayong please learn same and stop embarassing yourself here.
Thanks and love live the united republic of Cameroon

tayong

Kumbaboy et al
Good you signed in again so that your pals can see where we kicked off! Well by your opinion , your kind of people credit practice over advocacy, good for you KB but at the same time your kind of people may also make a distinction between mandatory practice and self-mustard courage.

While the former solicits the mandate of the people the latter goes as far as risking his very being to become the voice of the voiceless.

So for you to credit one and show disdain for the other doesnt strike a note with me Kumbaboy.

flames

"Knowledge without integrity is dangerous and integrity without knowledge is useless."

The majority of Cameroonians seem to exhibit one of the aforementioned qualities and sadly only a few exhibit both. I have been silent on this forum for long because I discovered much breath was wasted on thrashing ideological opponents instead of dealing with issues at hand.

Many opinions on this forum however reveal that something is wrong and there is no apparent clue about the solution.

First and foremost the major problem in Cameroon and in the world at large is the imposition of a System on the people. The system may vary a bit in different countries but it is based on the manipulators and the manipulated. It is a divide-and-conquer system and it has been well placed before most of the contributors on this forum(including I) were born.

Lets take a trip to see some of the causes and effects before diving into some proposed solutions:

Interestingly before European exploration of Africa started, we had our own troubles but on small scales. But slave trade, contact with wester traders and colonisation all opened Africa to a new horizon and interference whereby external influences devised a divide-and-conquer scheme to keep us apart. Commonly, family ties, tribal ties or religious ties are atypical of strong forms of community cohesion.

In Africa individuals are more bound by family which often surpass large families, extending to engulf a tribe. This gave the Europeans the chance to set us apart. They introduced their policy of minority rule over the majority, making masters out of minions (c.f Rwanda and Burundi, Charles Antagana of the Ewondos over the bigger beti tribes) and hence reducing the power of the majority. Tribalism is our divisive factor, just as religion is used to create tensions in the Middle-East.

This creates a conflict and keeps the people divided as planned. Moreover in the case of Cameroon, with two prevalent "artificial" cultures (English and French), the divide was already imminent.

As a result the system to perpetrate conflict or terrorise the citizens of a country have always been the main tool of governments worldwide. The people are afraid to challenge the powers and they are made to realise that power does not belong to the people but rather to the few who control them.

This control is worse in the African scenario and quite special in Cameroon because the majority of people do not yet realize how powerful they are. They join in the bandwagon of handclappers and political griots in order to get the crumbs from the table. Nevertheless that is how the system was designed: puppet elites in control of the ignorant flock.

But does the flock always remain silent? No!
Revolutionary leaders like Patrice Lumumba, Um Nyobe, Thomas Sankara, Felix Moumie tried to change the system but were all brought down. Not because they did not offer their best but because they did not get the people's support when they were in danger. They were ready but the people were not and this gave the elites to manipulate the people into remaining in the fear position and doing nothing, while their leaders perished.

So what am I trying to say. To solve our problems, we need to change the people's mentality gradually. This process may take very long years but it is not expected of us to harvest fruits from a tree immediately after planting. We need to use the power of education (Here I do not mean systematic education i.e primary, secondary, and higher education). I mean we need to let our kids be aware of the power to change things. Perhaps we should study how the colonial masters brainwashed citizens and we do the reverse process. (I even find it funny when most opinions here talk of the english culture as if it belonged to us in the first place. We need to rid ourselves of this neo-colonialist tendencies although we should appreciate positive parts about other cultures; be it french english, german, bassa, mankon, bafut, bakweri, etc )

I know some of you will scorn and laugh at this idea, thinking it is too soft but you should realised in fascist regimes of Hitler and Stalin, the greatest terror wrought on the citizens were the fear of their kids who had been indoctrinated to even spy on their parents. Imagine the invisible power these kids held without realising. By educating our generation on their rights, they would become powerful enough to challenge the injustice and since they grow up, we will be hopeful of a generation of thinkers and not handclappers.

Our duty therefore as grownups is to prepare the next generation.

Education of the grownup masses is quite difficult and I would appreciate suggestions on this.

Armed revolutions as a measure sadly is a novel solution and contrary to what my SCNC friends may suggest, is not the best solution because even they achieve their aims by it, their newly created state would be indebted to the arms supplier(which of course would be western powers or maybe the eastern bloc?) and the mentality of the survivors would be stained by the violence and bloodshed they witnessed.

Make no joke: we humans get desensitized to violence after maintaining long contact with it. It is similar to watching horror movies and becoming immune to the chilling effects intended by the movie.

We should avoid war options for the sake of our children because they will only learn to solve problems force rather than careful analysis and constructive dialog. We should avoid the cliché that military solutions help. In Hollywood movies, they do but in reality, they do not!

By the way a country created by the sword should expect to live by it and die by it.

I would like to get your opinions on these suggestions. Keep the posts rolling...

Pa-Teh

Only the worst of Thomases should still doubt that it is time for Anglophones to pack out of the francophone parliament and political arrangement and seek to restore their stolen state. Any sane Anglophone who hitherto had not been convinced that we are dealing with devils who have no respect for morality, should now see the reality and take a stand on our relationship with La Republique. The few Anglophones who have been elected, whether on the CPDM (Chop People Dem Money) or on the moribund SDF mandate should think twice while still sitting in this very house where our ancestors had contributed to build but then reaped nothing other than marginalization and insults for their kindred or posterity that we are. Let them ask themselves this question: Where are the Kumba-Mamfe and the Bamenda Ring roads that the ugly fox of La Republique promised since 1985 when the CPDM (Party of thieves and morally depraved idiots) was born in Bamenda and later in 1991 or when the fox visited Buea and Bamenda on some other dates? What can the likes of Achidi Achu, Musonge and the soon to be thrown out Inoni actually claim they have achieved for Anglophones from this sad political arrangement that only benefited their selfish families? Can they honestly blame Pa Foncha, Muna who had been used before them and thrown out like toilet tissues or Mola Endeley and Pa Jua honourable gentlemen who outrightly refused the unfortunate union, for not achieving anything for Anglophones? May the Lord bless the souls of these honourable men. Pa Endeley and Jua who foresaw this mess of arrangement at least tried to resist it albeit in vain. Pa Muna and Foncha realizing the mess only at the end of their lives at least joined the SCNC to reverse the situation. At least some honour for their beleaguered souls. The shame is on those of us (especially our so-called traditional Chiefs and Fons, Civil Service personnel, Parliamentarians, and shameless CPDM party leaders and others etc) who like flies continue to let ourselves be attracted by the rotten francophone meat in the name of appointments or positions thrown at us. The earlier we learn from these lessons and concert our efforts and jointly denounce this ugly system and fight to restore our state, the better for us. Assuredly this can be done and by the law makers. Whether CPDM or SDF, if they organize and boldly table a bill in their so call Parliament asking for a review of the Anglophone situation and be ready to walk out if this parliament fails to address it, then that is only when La Republique would be forced to act. If so done, this will drag the international Community into it and things would become more serious and eventually to the benefit of Anglophones. Obviously the jittery Republique’s government cannot arrest and detain them should this be their fear. But curious enough,how many of these giddy geese and ganders of parliamentarians of both parties can knock the table and stand his/her ground in front of their francophone masters. I know my word is mere water thrown of course, on the backs of geese and ganders that they are already. If we can’t take a serious stand in the midst of the mess going on there, then we are all doomed forever and should cease blaming our ancestors for any political errors they had committed. If educated and enlightened as we are today, we cannot correct the errors of our ancestors, then we are worse than them when they committed these errors. We should shut our large mouths and accept our slave status. May God bless. Pa-Teh

Kumbaboy

Tayong,

Fru Ndi is a Cameroonian hero whether we like it or not. His finest speech, in my opinion, was delivered at Liberty Park in Bamenda on the day troops sent in by Paul Biya shot death 5 unarmed young Cameroonians.

Fru Ndi sounded like JF Kennedy. Yaounde was shaken. Even CRTv had to deny an event took place. Eric Chinje was news anchor that night!

My kind of Kumba men have less respect for armchair intellectuals. When great men overcome obstacles, we build them monuments because such courage is to be instilled in the youth.

But for Fru Ndi, Cameroon would still be a one party state with many complaining and sterile intellectuals on government payroll.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Ma Mary, thanks for the links, I found a great write-up by Francis Nche about the hoisting of the SCNC flag in Buea. What a great write-up

"I was in Buea on saturday and heard nothing. It is strange that a big story is in internet about the SCNC activities which I last heard about in 1994 from Dr. Simon Munzu and Calrson Ayangwe who themselves were seeking for recognition. When they got the attention needed, they disappeared to greener pastures. I am sure anybody talking about SCNC is seeking to use it to gain asylum or to maintain refugee statue in the west.
Those who are talking of separation sittng in refugee homes in Berlin should know that we were divided in berlin conference by the Westerners. The divided Berlin United 16 years ago and the whole Europe is Uniting because they know very well that united they will succeed and divided they will collapse.
I am glad this SCNC issue is limited to immigration offices abroad in asylum seekers file. We in the streets of Cameroon are not aware of anything going on. Even those chicken hearted that claim to sing the song quickly use it for further asylum. We should be struggling to bring back our bothers of the northern Cameroons whom we lost and got assimilated in Nigeria in 1961.
For those in Refugee homes in Germany or elsewhere waiting for the so-called independence of southern Cameroon, I am sure Jesus may come before those wishes are fulfilled.
May God bless Cameroon

Posted by: Francis Nche | Tuesday, 03 October 2006 at 01:44 PM"

UnitedStatesofAfrica

I also found a very disturbing article in the links Ma Mary posted and ironically, the article is by Ma Mary

"Simon Munzu was at the pinnacle of what a Southern Cameroonian could attain in la Republique when he took up the cause of the Southern Cameroons. Greener pastures my foot. He could have chosen to be like one of your house niggers whom I shall not name... please do not stand in our way as we seek freedom. That would not be fair.

Posted by: Ma Mary | Tuesday, 03 October 2006 at 03:05 PM "-MA MARY

MA MARY, you know better than to use the atrocious "N" word on a fellow African. I am dissappointed that an educated person like you will use that kind of a word on a fellow African. I have no morsel of respect for people who use degrading words against the people of their own race. It's ok to argue but to cross the bar and use slave words that attack someone's ethnic features is plain wrong and horrendous. Especially when it comes from someone of the same race. Ma Mary, what a shame, what a big shame. The skeletons in your closet have been exposed and in due time we would know the true characters of the so-called "freedom fighters" on this forum.
I am sure your friend Legima Doh will say nothing about this but when I present my federalism ideas, you guys fall on my head and call me vulgar. Legima Doh, if you don't reprimand Ma Mary's language, then you are a hypocrite. In due time, the truth will surface.

tayong

Kumbaboy
Im still scattering my hair over what to make of your recent shift from objective thinking for which I have known you for.

It absolutely baffles me when you refer to courageous odds braving heroes as armchair intellectuals.KB, some few examples would illucidate my points and de facto surprise at your postition.

Would you show disdain for Rosa Park who courageously resisted white fascist black-sits-at-back laws thereby giving rise to the popular American revolution over Martin Lurther King Junior who then led the movement? Or would you deny Tabo Mbeki Senior who ignited the S.African resistance movement that was later led by Nelson Mandela the titles of heroes? Mandela et co always makes reference to them. All these heros have monumnents erected to their honour, do you find issues with that KB?

For you to qualify Albert Mukong who spent years in prison and Yondo Black whom Mr Fru Ndi himslef consulted before even launching the SDF while he was in Prison defeats every objective position Kumbaboy.

No one denies the courage of Mr Fru Ndi but what you guys continuously potray simply buys into the argument by people that there seems to be a personality cult surrounding Mr Fru Ndi and anything said of him that blurs that view is met with reprimands and blatant rebuttals much of which only add wounds to injury.

Heros ? Yes Heroes! You can name them, those 6 who lost their lives in Bamenda, those UB students who lost their lives fighting against ethno-political ministerial admissions, those people who lost their lives during Operation Ghost Towns, those people who sustained injuries fighting for the creation of the GCE Board, those students who resisted the Njeuma-Rene Zengo Le assasination of the English system of Educations etc etc etc, in my view all these are horoes not much less than Fru Ndi, Yondo Black, Albert Mukong etc etc.

In any case you and your pals've got the right to hold any position you deem suits you.
Nice weekend KB,Tayong

Watesih

"By the way real architects of democracy to whom bravo, and intemperance can be alluded vis-a_vis Cameroon Democracy isn`t Mr Fru Ndiet co but Yondo Marcel Black, Albert Mukong,and Fon Dinka Tata Mentan etc etc."( Tuesday ,04 September 2007)

"Heros ? Yes Heroes! You can name them, those 6 who lost their lives in Bamenda, those UB students who lost their lives fighting against ethno-political ministerial admissions, those people who lost their lives during Operation Ghost Towns, those people who sustained injuries fighting for the creation of the GCE Board, those students who resisted the Njeuma-Rene Zengo Le assasination of the English system of Educations etc etc etc, IN MY VIEW ALL THESE ARE HEROES NOT MUCH LESS THAN Fru Ndi, Yondo Black, Albert Mukong etc etc" (Tayong Friday,07 September 2007)

Hahaha! Don`t suffocate to death my brother!
Man pass you carry yi bag! Your two brothers
know better! Try again next time!

Paa Ngembus

FuckAm alias Francis Nche alias USAfrica,

You are dishonest even in your poor attempt at bellitling with plaigiarised content which you are attributing to a wrong Page.

Here are a few pages from Dibussi that you forgot my little "House Nigger":

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There was no unification! There is no unification! Where is the agreement on this so-called unification? There was occupation and conquest. That occupation and conquest of the territory of the Southern Cameroons by France remains.

France through their puppet Ahidjo, with the complicity of the United Kingdom that De Gaulle gratefully acknowledged when he said the "Southern Cameroons became a little gift to France from the Queen of England" colonized the Southern Cameroons.

France as a white country enjoys the solidarity and complicity of other white countries, as they, more than the hapless Comerounese citizens have benefitted and continue to benefit most from the occupation, brutalization and plunder of the Southern Cameroons.

In my opinion, any other analyses are red herrings and obfuscations to distort what is in effect naked occupation and conquest. The type of occupation and conquest that Adolf Hitler unleashed against weaker neighbours with the consequences we know of.

The genocidal France and la Republique du Cameroun, like Hitler will lose out; no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, differences and arguments within the polity of the Southern Cameroons in the past and present notwithstanding.

Posted by: SJ | September 04, 2007 at 12:23 PM

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UnitedStatesofAfrica

Paa Ngembus, I am good at arguing and very passionate about my view. However, I know where to draw my limits. If you think using the "N" word to insult me will boost your inflated ego, well go ahead. It doesn't bother me at all, it only makes me feel sorry for black people who shame the dignity our ancestors who fought to get for over 300 years. It only makes me feel sorry for people like you who mock at the efforts of the likes of Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, Richard Wright, Mandela, Jomo Kenyetta, who sacrificed their lives to end the use of such atrocious words attacking the ethnic features of the children of Africa. I feel sorry for you Paa Ngembus, so sorry.

Paa Ngembus

FuckAm alias Frances Nche alias USAfrica,

I had no idea you were an illeterate.

Go back and read African-American history and write a one (1) page summary on your understanding of the words "House Nigger", "Field Nigger", "Uncle Tom", Etc., Etc.

Submit your essay to me and I will grade it for you. I will give you an "F" if your write-up exceeds a page.

After you do this exercise, you will understand Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, Richard Wright, Malcom X and the others and where they fit in our history.

As for the other African heroes, you may still have a long way to understand where they are (or were) coming frome.

"House Niggers" like you are very slow learners. I bet you already sold your birth right for a few crums from the Master's table, that is why you are hell bent on stopping the rest of us from fighting to liberate our country.

Let me paraphrase something Ma Mary wrote on Dibussi (that I am sure you must have read):

"....no matter the reasons for or the origin of a slave's condition, that slave has a God-given and fundamendat human right to free himself or herself even if it means killing his or her master in the process....."

If you don't get it, ask Ma Mary to educate you more.

Little numbskulll.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY

UnitedStatesofAfrica

NO excuse is permitted for a black man to use the word "nigger" Paa NgemGOAT, no excuse. You called me an illetrate, oh yes, I am happy to be one. If Intellectual giants are depressed GOATS like you who wrestle with their brains, scrape half-truths from textbooks and concoct sugar-coated explanations for Black people to use abominable words like "nigger" then I rather be an illetrate. Mind you, "Empty vessels make the loudest noise". That is why your party has not been able to make any progess. keep marking time until judgement day.
Also, Ma Mary and her boisterous flock had earlier stated that the SCNC is a presseure group and not a political party. Then why do you guys have a southern cameroons interim government in exile website? why do you have an interim government already establsihed full of north westerners already established in exile if you are a pressure group? that sounds awfully fishy to me. sounds like some asylum seekers with selfish intentions. Before you fall on my head, let me define what a government is. Dictionary.com defines government as "the political direction and control exercised over the actions of the members, citizens, or inhabitants of communities, societies, and states; direction of the affairs of a state, community, etc.; political administration: Government is necessary to the existence of civilized society."
Now, how can a pressure group set up something like this? I really wonder.
I also dread the fact that the SCNC is packed with leaders from northwest. I am from Bamenda, but if you are fighting for th liberation of Southern Cameroon, why do you then cram your so-called "pressure group"(which already has a goverment)leaders from northwest. Are they the only southern cameroonians? Maybe the SCNC is pretending that there are no divisions between Southern Cameroonians. Please go to Cameroon and see the sharp division and hatred that exists between southwesterners and northwesterners. Cramming your "party" with only northwersterners only aggravates the problem. Mind you guys, Under the reign of Foncha as P.M of southern cameroons, he completely marganilzed southwesterners. He gave 90% of government posts to "Abakwa" boys and alienated southwesteners. That was the beginning of the division and I can see that SCNC is heading down the same lane of doom and mistrust. Slowly and slowly, I will debunk the hypocrisy of core SCNC ideologies. Rather than trying to fight with every single detractor, admit that you guys have fundamental flaws and try to correct them. "Only a wise man accepts his mistake" but this does not hold true with the likes of that fiesty GOAT, Paa NgemGOAT and his cohorts.

Paa Ngembus

FuckAm alias Francis Nche alias USAfrica,

You must be miffed that SCYL left you out of her Interim Government.

Too bad because SCYL really hates traitors and will NEVER have you in their cabinet.

Well, your Papa Paul Mbia just changed his government. Why don't you go check if he remembered you this time little "snitch".

You may be paid handsomely this time around for betraying those who saved your filthy hinie from the French butcher's knife during the UPC pogroms of the 1950s and 1960s.

Like I said before "House Niggers" like you are slow learners. Don't worry. I am patient. I will wait. Go do your one (1) page homework. I often allow numbskulls like you enough time to even turn in their homework late so that when they fail they will acknowledge it was because they were "petits nulllards".

".... empty vessels make the loudest noise ....".

When I read this one I laughed so hard. It reminded me of my primary school days.

It is so true Bozo. Just go and stand infront of a mirror and you will discover it for yourself Mr Francis FuckAm USAfrica.

Say all you want about the SCNC. It is an independence movement and will never register or participate in the colonizer's political circus.

On assylum, the last I checked:

There is no assylum at UNPO, so what is the SCNC doing there?

There is no assylum at the African Union, so what is the SCNC doing there?

There is no assylum at the International Court in the Hague, so what is the SCNC doing there?

There is no assylum at the African Human Rights Court, so what is the SCNC doing there?

There is no assylum at the United Nations, so what is the SCNC doing there?

Etc., Etc., Etc.

I leave you with the rest of the task of mapping out your own idiocy.

Continue trying to do what you have been paid to do.

You will not succeed because Southern Cameroonians are now educated enough to pick devils like you from a distance.

You can preach all the NW/SW hatred you want. You will never succeed.

The leaders of the SCNC are SWners.

The leaders of SCYL are SWners.

The leaders of SCARM are SWners.

Etc., Etc., Etc.

You are wasting your time and your master's money.

You are not a Southern Cameroonian. You may have been born in the Southern Cameroons (I doubt that), but your loyalties are to the Western Province in La Republique Francaise du Cameroun where your parents and grandparents came from.

That is why you do what you do.

I may not be a Bamenda man (even though my Mom is from Banso) but I hate to see the name of Bamenda soiled by "filthy snitchy rats" like you.

I concede that Foncha did pack his cabinet with grassfielders.

I also concede that Endeley won the 1961 plebiscite in present day Donga Mantung and Bui Divisions.

I also concede that Foncha won the 1961 plebiscite in present day Meme and Lebialem divisions.

Soon you will realise that your NW/SW dichotomy is a myth created and brutally maintained by La Republique to keep us fighting each other.

We are wiser now and you are losing.

NW/SW divide and rule does not work anymore.

Still waiting for your homework my little imp.

Chao.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

The GOAT, Paa NgemGOAT doing what he does best: when the going gets tough, you use insults to hide behind your weakness...hahahahaha. But this time my dear half-Banso GOAT, it will not help you. The facts have been presented and there's nothing you can do about it than to be held accountable for the actions of your so-called "pressure group". If you a pressure group, why are you already forming a fully established government in exile packed with Northwesterners? answers please, answers.
CHEERS!!!!

Paa Ngembus

FuckAm alias Francis Nche alias USAfrica,

Like I said I am a patient teacher escpecilly when it comes to numbskull "house niggers" like you.

I will give you time to complete your homework.

While you are at it research "Pressure Group", "Political Party", "Independence Movement", "Government in Exile", etc., etc., and you wil understand a bit more.

Like I said earlier be humble and beg Ma Mary and she might help. She is Ma and Mas often understand bratish little fellows with tantrums like you.

BTW don't let names fool you? Did you know USAfrica was a Bami boy? Did you know Rexon is from Bamenda? Did you know Paa Ngembus of all people was half graffi?

Just giving you some food for thought my little ragamuffin.

Guess who will be held accountable? La Republique Fraincaise du Cameroun and traitors like Francis Nche alias Andre FuckAm of USAfrica.

Take care Bozo.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Just as I suspected, no answers just more insults. Paa NgemGOAT, you are pathetically predictable. Why don't you answer my questions? why do you keep calling on ma mary? is she your mouthpiece? has your mouth been zipped? Your extreme arrogance is a sign of defeat. From your childish write-up, I can see frustration, anger and tension burning inside of you . It is just sheer delight to watch a prejudiced IDIOT like you choke and suffocate in frustration.
CHEERS!!!

Paa Ngembus

FuckAm alias Francis Nche alias USAfrica,

Like I said I am a patient teacher escpecilly when it comes to numbskull "house niggers" like you.

I will give you time to complete your homework.

While you are at it research "Pressure Group", "Political Party", "Independence Movement", "Government in Exile", etc., etc., and you will understand a bit more.

Like I said earlier be humble and beg Ma Mary and she might help. She is Ma and Mas often understand bratish little fellows with tantrums like you.

BTW, don't let names fool you. Did you know USAfrica was a Bami boy? Did you know Rexon is from Bamenda? Did you know Paa Ngembus of all people was half graffi? Yep a Graffi Bassa, how odd jerks like you might say -:) -:) -:)

Just giving you some food for thought my little ragamuffin.

Guess who will be held accountable when we re-establish our country? La Republique Fraincaise du Cameroun and traitors like Francis Nche alias Andre FuckAm of USAfrica.

Take care Bozo.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Run out of things to say NgemGOAT, why are you posting the same write-up twice? hahahahaha...I can see you have nothing substantial to say except your old and repetitive insults like Bozo, ragamuffin, numbskull and your new favourite "house nigger". What an IDIOT, your frustration is killing me with laughter. Please continue with the write-ups, you are keeping me entertained and also, use new insults next time please. Kinda getting tired of the old ones.
CHEERS!!!!

Paa Ngembus

Ooops.

My apologies except to the "house nigger" FuckAm alias USAfrica.

I did not realize I posted this twice. The site crashed on me earlier.

Are you dumb or what Mr FuckAM USAfrica?

How many times do you want your questions answered?

Are you not understanding my English? Let me know if I should start writing in French for you Froggie boy to "piger".

If you think you will frustrate me think again MA BOY. I never get frustrated especially when I make up my mind I am dealing with a fool. I patiently educate the idiot because I know sooner or later they will get it.

You are still not there yet but you will get there. I am taming your tantrums bit by bit.

Also I don't get angry with Southern Cameroon naysayers. Instead, they are the ones that get angry with me when they run out of arguments.

For example, I asked you to explain what the SCNC is doing in a couple of places (UN, UNPA, ACHR, AU, ICJ, etc.) if her only goal was assylum.

You haven't done So.

I asked you to give me a writeup on "Uncle Tom", "House Nigger" and "Field Nigger".

You haven't done so.

I asked you to tell me the difference betweeen a "Political Party" an "Independence Movement" and a "Pressure Group".

You haven't done so.

So tell me my dear little buffoon, who is refusing to answer questions?

See you later snitch.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

The furious GOAT, please change insults. They are becoming boring and repetitive. Please invent new ones, I want to keep on laughing.
CHEERS!!!

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Paa NgemGOAT, are u done making a GOAT of yourself? hahahahahhaha. Wonders shall never seize, some foolish thing.

Paa Ngembus

FuckAM Alias Francis Nche alias USAfrica,

Please stop escaping debating the issues by playing the dumb fool you are.

Answer these questions:

Explain to me what the SCNC is doing in a couple of places (UN, UNPA, ACHR, AU, ICJ, etc.) if her only goal was assylum.

Give me a writeup on "Uncle Tom", "House Nigger" and "Field Nigger".

Tell me the difference betweeen a "Political Party" an "Independence Movement" and a "Pressure Group".

I am waiting. I told you I am patient.

The jeopardy tune is playing and minutes are ticking -:) -:) -:)

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.


Danny Boy

"Subject: Re: [camnetwork] Urgent Help Needed!!!!!!

You must be a little dysfunctional fella who got into camnetwork@yahoo. com thinking that a keyboard in your bedroom gives you the right to write any kind of garbage. Mr. Anoma asked for an important information here young man and you start writing about bandits and CPDM. If you must write, create another thread and write whatever you want. Look at the subject of this e-mail...IT READS URGENT HELP NEEDED. How is what you wrote fit into his request. This is one of the prices you pay for freedom of speech.

If you must reply my e-mail do so using a different thread.

Jackson Nanje"

Very funny. LoL!
who is he talking to?
what is he talking about?

That is what most of you are missing , stuck with the Post online!!

Hey, Watesih, careful what you quote!
God bless.

Fon

Danny boy,
Nobody reading what you have pasted above will doubt that Jackson Nanje is addressing my friend, Rexon.
What he is going through on Camnetwork is what I have always independently pointed out to him here; unfortunately he has always refused to learn.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Ma Mary, rest assured that your comments had no effect on me. It instead made me jubilate because it confirmed to me the hypocritical nature of you and your flock. You guys castigate people for "belittling your work" and then you turn around and do the same thing.
And as for legima Doh, I am surprised that you are asking about my views. When i first came to this forum and started talking about my federalism view, who were those who went out of their way to attack and rebuke every idea I ever propose? I think we all the answer to the above question, I do not need to labor on it.
The thing with the SCNC is they are ignoring very important issues which will come back to haunt them. They are ignoring the fact that there is a sharp division between south westerners and north westerners. How do you want southern Cameroon to secede when southern Cameroonians are not united? but when you tell them, they will insult you and say that you are lying. I am from bamenda and I grew up in buea. I saw first hand the division that exists. south westerners and north westerners are always arguing and blaming each other for the problems of anglophones. In school, I was called "foolish foncha", "cam no go" and all sorts of derogatory words by south westerners. But when you tell the SCNC people, they will insult you and say no division exists. They are ignoring the fact that a lot of south westerners see the SCNC as a bamenda party.
During the American revolution, George washington and his men had the full support of the American people before they went to battle.
When Africans soldiers came back from world war 2, and when African intellectuals began to blossom, they didn't start fighting the whiteman immediately. They went to their people, convinced them, won their trusts and then galvanize a following to fight the imperialists.
The SCNC is not learning from history. You guys are just so passionate that your minds have been messed up. How can you start by fighting La republique in the U.N before fighting to get all the people on southern cameroons on your side? talk about reverse psychology . Do not just assume that eveybody is on your side. Go to the woman in the market and ask her if she knew that SCNC went to the U.N and listen to her answer, she will say no. Go to the students in a class in high school and ask them if they know that the SCNC has an interim government in exile and listen to what they will say, they will say no. Were the masses informed when before you guys made your interim government? did you go to the streets and ask the masses what they thought? did you ask for their own ideas? No. Instead, a small group of Cameroon immigrants read a karl Marx textbook and assume that they can act on the behalf of the southern cameroon masses without involving them in their plans. Who are you guys kidding? yourselves. The southern cameroon masses know nothing about your movement, your visits to the U.N, your views, they know nothing. Only people who are exposed to the internet are able to know one of few things and that is a very small number of people. Keep deceiving yourselves ok?
When I point out these errors of your group, instead of noting them and trying to solve the problems, you will not listen. Instead, you will send your SCNC internet team( Ma Mary being the president, Rexon has been sacked as president. Apparently he has been facing some issues with immigration.) to come and verbally abuse me. Keep insulting me ok? don't go and fix your problems, just sit on your laptop and keep insulting me. At this rate, I will come back here after 10 years and that rebel GOAT, Paa NgemGOAT will still be writing "southern cameroons shall be decolonized my any means", legima Doh will still be attempting some latin and writing "Peace upon our motherland of the southern cameroons" and Ma Mary will still be surfing the internet, looking for links and posting them on this forum.

casara


Nigeria Taken To African Court Over Southern Cameroons Case

27 Aug 2007, 6:57 PM
People Against Injustice, PAIN Gambia and Global Conscience Initiative, GCI Cameroon, have filed a joint complaint to the African Commission on human and Peoples Rights, ACHPR, against the Federal Republic of Nigeria for the latter’s refusal to respect a Federal Court ruling asking her to table the case of the Southern Cameroons before the International Court of Justice, ICJ.
The African Commission has acknowledged receipt of the complaint in a letter referenced: ACHPR/LPROT/ COMM/345/ NIG/IN stating that the complaint has been registered as “Communication 345/2007” and “will be brought before the African Commission during its 42nd Ordinary Session scheduled to hold in November 2007, in the Republic of Congo (Brazzaville) , for a decision on seizure.”
The complaint is signed by Shaka Ceesay, Director of PAIN and Churchill Samba, Chief Executive Officer of GCI.
Samba maintains that Nigeria was doing grave injustice to the people of the Southern Cameroons, by ignoring the decision of her own Federal High Court ordering her to table the Southern Cameroons case at the ICJ and the UN General Assembly.
“Nigeria is a state of law,” Samba stated adding that, “she is also a signatory to the African Charter, and has ratified the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights and other international treaties guaranteeing and protecting the right to self determination of all peoples.
About 12 Southern Cameroonians had, on February 14, 2002, seized the Federal Court of Nigeria to determine whether Nigeria is not under any legal duty to place before the ICJ and the UN General Assembly, the claim of the peoples of the Southern Cameroons to self determination and their declaration of independence.
The Federal Court quashed a preliminary objection raised by Counsel for the Attorney General of Nigeria and ruled, inter alia, that the Federal High Court of Abuja had jurisdiction to entertain the claim of the Southern Cameroons.
The parties, in the course of the hearing, decided to use the Alternative Dispute Resolution route to amicable settle the claim and agreed, amongst other things, that the Federal Republic of Nigeria shall institute a case before the ICJ, the UN and other international organisations for the determination of the statehood of the peoples of the Southern Cameroons.
On March 5, 2002, the Federal High Court of Abuja, with R.N. Ukeje as Chief Judge and Benson Asogwa as Registrar, made an Enrollment Order and scheduled that Nigeria shall table the Southern Cameroons claim to self determination and independence before the ICJ, the UN and any other international organisations that are competent to hear and determine the claims
PAIN and GCI frown that Nigeria has not challenged the decision of the Court but has “failed, neglected or refused” to carry out the orders of the Court.
The complainants hold that Nigeria, by ignoring the Abuja High Court Order, has violated Articles 19, 20(1), (2) and (3) of the African Charter, and thus failed to assist the peoples of the Southern Cameroons in their struggle “ … to liberate themselves from domination, tyranny, subjugation, exploitation, segregation, enslavement, torture and agony.”
The complainants are praying the African Commission to hold the Federal Republic of Nigeria in breach of Articles of the African Charter; to urge Nigeria to fulfill its obligations under Article 20(3) in favour of the Southern Cameroons; to direct Nigeria to comply with the orders of the Federal High Court of Abuja contained in Suit No. FHC/ABJ/CS/30/ 2002; and “any other such order(s) or such further orders as the Commission may deem fit and proper in the circumstance.”
The plaintiffs maintain that all local remedies have been exhausted as the matter have been settled by the Federal High Court of Abuja, whose decision remains unchallenged. PAIN is a Gambian-based NGO having observer status with the African Commission, while Global Conscience Initiative is a Cameroon-based independent peace-building organisation.
By Kimbang Beepsi

Paa Ngembus

FuckAM Alias Francis Nche alias USAfrica,

You are learning bit by bit MA BOY. This is proof that patience with idiots can work.

The SCNC will take all the advice it can get, but the SCNC will not countenance insults in the name of advice.

Again don't soil Bamenda people. You can continue preaching your NW/SW hatred all you want. Southern Cameroonians can see through it now. I guarantee you that you will fail.

Ahidjo and his gang created and brutally enforced the NW/SW divide to weaken us politically and La Republique is still at it today using paid agents like you to pepertrate the hatred. Our people are getting wiser. You will fail.

You claim the SCNC is not known in Cameroon. If that were true La Republique would not be so worried that she would be paying stooges like you to fight the SCNC.

Keep dreaming that the SCNC is not know. You will soon wake up in the Southern Cameroons. However, you will be given theoption to pack your bags and go back to your rat hole in La Repulique.

BTW, it is SCYL that has the Interim Gov't.

You still have to answer these questions:

Explain to me what the SCNC is doing in a couple of places (UN, UNPA, ACHR, AU, ICJ, etc.) if her only goal was assylum.

Give me a writeup on "Uncle Tom", "House Nigger" and "Field Nigger".

Tell me the difference betweeen a "Political Party" an "Independence Movement" and a "Pressure Group".

Take carre bimbo.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

rexon

Danny Boy,

Shame will drive you cra´zy for conspiring with CPDM Stalwarts and your brother fon to ridicule me. FYI, u will never succeed. just an advise, next when you want to paste a massage, paste it all. If jackson, your CPDM friend could be the only one to see that my messáge does not tie with the key argument, then he is stupid.

Fon,

What do you make of this message by Cameroonian intellectuals?

Hello Rexon,

I am pleased with you. Your language is penetrative and reflects the truth about the Cameroon society.

Keep it up.

Fred Kemah

London
I thought i was the only seeing this.

Cheers brother.

Chopfire na ma name

"fred.kem@tiscali. it" wrote:
Hello Rexon,
I am pleased with you. Your language is penetrative and reflects the truth about the Cameroon society.
Keep it up.
Fred Kemah

simplice

Rexon, where is your humility?.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Probably lost in his ego.

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