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Monday, 24 September 2007

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simplice

"According to Vewessee, October 1 should rather be a day of prayers and sensitisation in churches about the struggle." by Vewessee
Can someone tell me how this aspect of sensitisation ties with :
"."It was not through empty celebrations and sloganeering that the East Timories and the Eritreans got their independence. They fought for it," by Vewessee
Just replace "empty celebrations and sloganeering"(second comment) with prayers and sensitisation(first comment). What do you get as answer: just a modified version of her "totology" which perfectly matches Chief Ayamba's agenda.
It's sum and substance is: Vewessee simply wants to critice Chief Ayamba. In criticising Chief, he turns around and contradict himself by indirectly applauding to the Chiefs agenda.Wonders shall never end.

Watesih

Simplice,
Smart there! We did not really want to comment on Chief Ayamba`s declarations,but Mr Vewessee has pushed us to.The first thing is that Chief Ayamba seems to be animated by the same Cpdm spirit that we want to cut away from,the love for celebrations.If we celebrate for having beheaded one of Biya`s many minions
,that will be good,but somebody is calling on Cameroonians to use La Republique`s playgrounds,and public space to celebrate.We cannot keep renting cultural centres, applying for playgrounds,and asking for permission to hold meetings from a devilish regime,and pretend to fight it.
Last year we said it here,that we are looking forward to another 1st October ,where another press conference will be held,and people arrested.This time it has worsened to celebrations.Mr Vewessee is right when he says we can`t come out once a year to achieve what we have been clamouring for.
Where we completely disagree with Mr Vewessee is that instead of calling on those in the diaspora to come home ,and take action against the regime,he is advising them to keep waisting time running after the UN.Going to the UN one hundred times is equally ceremonial.If the Mandela`s did not achieve their goal by undertaking such ceremonies,or counting on them at least,why should Mr Vewessee continue to encourage them.
Churches are a good venue to exchange ideas on the tactics to adopt,just as mosques are to the moslems,but prayers alone cannot lead us to the Eritrean situation.
Finally ,i don`t know what type of wide media campaign can Mr Vewessee be counting on in Cameroon to sensitize the youths.
Crtv ,and its affiliates are their things.
Very few people have access to the internet,so the only way is to use courriers like Al-qaeda.If we are present in the field the sensitization will be done,but if we wait for every 1st October to play football matches,then we are surely looking for more Maradonas,than fighting for autonomy.

Morfaw

Mr Vewessee

You got it all wrong!!!!!. First it is very unholy that you come up at this time of the year to make such negative statement about our National chairman. You are indirectly telling Southern Cameroonians to shun away from celebrating their National Day. In fact you are distracting Southern Cameroonians.

Let me tell you why the celebration programs has a week long commemoration. First the SCNC understands that, if we fix everything for one day 1st October, it is just normal the enemy( Those responsible for many atrocities and death of Southern Cameroonians, even responsible for the death of late Madam Vewessee) would come with their machine guns to kill innocent Southern Cameroonians. The SCNC thought that by making a week long celebration, Southern Cameroonians from which ever corner in the Southern Cameroons, would be able to judge for themselves which day and which time to carryout any of our listed activities without an infringe to public peace.

Instead of attacking Chief Ayamba, Mr Vewessee should have used the media peace given to him to cajole more Southern Cameroonians to come out and celebrate their Independence day. This is their day, La Republique has virtually stolen everything from us, this day is the only thing we’ve got left.

Secondly, Mr Vewessee did not tell us what he has been doing to better the Southern Cameroons situation. For the over one year now he has been virtually mute. What contributions has he made. He might have been praying as he claims, what has his prayers produced?

Lastly Mr Vewessee seems to be very confused with his own self. At one point he tries to protect the lives of Southern Cameroonians by saying “He said Southern Cameroons has not got an army of its own to cover its activists, and to cause people to come out on October 1, just to be killed by forces of La Republique, was rather foolhardy” Then in the next statement he is asking Southern Cameroonians to go and fight. Hear him “It was not through empty celebrations and sloganeering that the East Timories and the Eritreans got their independence. They fought for it”

Mr Vewessee is confused and must stop distracting Southern Cameroonians. The Truth is, one would hardly hear Chief Ayamba attacking or condemning other Southern Cameroonians. He has devoted to use all his strength on the rightful enemy. It is high time Southern Cameroonians release that you must not only be a chief Ayamba to fight for the Southern Cameroons. This is our battle

Under the auspices of Dr Nfor Ngala Nfor, the SCNC in Belgium is putting up a powerful demonstration in front of the British embassy in Brussels. What will Mr Vewessee be doing?

rexon

EXPLOSION OF ANGER AND CIVIL UNREST IN CAMEROON AS SOUTHERN CAMEROONIANS BECOME MORE FRUSTRATED AND DEMAND FOR FULL INDEPENDENCE By Hilary Besong.
According to a recent pool carried out by the Southern Cameroons Independent Gazette this September, 83% of Southern Cameroonians are conscious of the southern Cameroons Independent Struggle and will be more than happy if Southern Cameroons becomes an Independent Country. “We can’t continue to live in a country where English speaking Cameroonians are considered as second class citizens or being called Anglofools” according to a senior divisional officer who spoke to the Southern Cameroons Independent Gazette in anonymity.
“The tension in Cameroon has reached its elasticity and currently, everything is possible especially with the high rate of unemployment amongst mostly Anglophone (Southern Cameroonian) youths most of whom are university graduates; explained Arrey Vivian a graduate from the medical school” A country where corruption in government circles is rife and widespread, electoral fraud is legalised and the regime uses the military to suppress its people as a soldier who had only seven years of primary school education earns a higher salary than a medical doctor who has been studying for at least twenty years. Vivian concluded that this is a time bomb that is about to go off sooner than later. According to Stanislous Ajum, a political science graduate who spoke to one of our reporters is quoted to have said that “the Yaoundé regime has now embarked on a serious crack down on Southern Cameroonian activists especially members of the SCNC, SCYL, and their families including sympathizers.
On the 26th of July 2007, two SCNC members were charged with secessionists activities in Buea High Court. The two were Kajang Anderson Ebai, SCNC chairman for BUEA and Etoe Thomas (SCNC member). It all started in December 2006, when Etoe Thomas was arrested by the police for possessing an SCNC membership card. During interrogations, he discloses to his jailers that his membership card was issued to him by the Buea base chairman (Kajang Anderson Ebai).
Same day, Kajang was arrested, torture and detained incommunicado for two weeks. They were all refused food, medical attention and legal advice and were finally released without charge or trial but were forced to sign an undertaken to report daily at the Buea Central Police Station.
It should be recall here that the new criminal code in La Republique du Cameroun prohibits granting bails to persons accuse of secessionists activities. This new article of the criminal code had been designed to deal with SCNC activities in the occupied territory of Southern Cameroons. That was exactly what happened to Anderson and Etoe when they attended the July 26 Buea court hearings according to Oben Maxwell.
At the Nsimaleng and Douala airports, Camerounian airport and immigration authorities are now cracking down on Southern Cameroonian activists returning home from the Diaspora on holidays. A glaring example is the case of Duke Ebogo Titus Ngwa, an SCNC activist from Cleveland-Ohio, USA who was arrested on Thursday August 30, 2007 in Yaoundé by the gendarmerie for wearing a SCAPO face cap and a white T-Shirt carrying the Southern Cameroons Flag with a very conspicuous FRSC bold-faced inscription on his T-shirt.
Ngwa is a Southern Cameroons advocate and the author of the book "Tears of the Destitute: The Southern Cameroons in the hands of LRC". He was in Cameroon to finalise site arrangement for the shooting of a movie "Inside the Presidency" (Authored by Him and believed to be curled from Biya's Blood Power Lotion). According to John Sone, Ngwa is reputed for coordinating a group of Youths from the Bafut Local Government Area to the SCNC head office last year for a greater inside education on the Southern Cameroons Cause. He has also implemented the philosophy that the Youths Must Join the struggle for the Restoration of the Southern Cameroons since they are the ones who stand to benefit from it”
Many Southern Cameroonian families having relatives’ abroad have been victims of the Biya’s brutal security tortures in one way or the other. In May 2006, Emmaculate Monkam who works for a printing press in Buea suffered and died of server head injuries after being attacked and abandoned by the police according to eye witnesses. Meanwhile several persons have been arrested by Cameroun secret police (CENER), tortured and detained in various detention facilities in La Republique du Cameroun including Ayuk Judith an aunt to Marie Monkam, a London base SCNC activist. Marie Monkam activism with the SCNC in England has already caused the life of her sister in 2006. Her aunt Ayuk Judith was arrested in August 2007 in a cyber café while reading her emails. She was accused of aiding Marie Monkam in distributing information via a website http://www.stopbiya.org/
Arrests, detentions, tortures in connections with the stopbiya’s website is not only causing terrible havoc in Buea but also in Victoria, Kumba, Mamfe, Nkembe, Bamenda, Ndu, Baffoussam, Douala and in Yaoundé. Biya’s plain cloths mercenaries and security agents had been scatted all over the Southern Cameroons territory with special instructions to deal with the families of Southern Cameroons activists living abroad. This is exactly what had happened to the families of Bibiana Bih, Takouan Bienvenu, Gwendoline Ayuk and several other families in the Southern Cameroons.
The Southern Cameroons struggle for independence is not an isolated case in the world today. According to an article published by Elaine Sciolino today September 21, 2007 titled “Calls for a Break-up Grow Ever Louder in Belgium, the capital of Europe” In the opening paragraph, Elaine is quoted as saying “Belgium has given the world Audrey Hepburn, René Magritte, the saxophone and deep-fried potato slices that somehow are called French.
But the back story of this flat, Maryland-size country of 10.4 million is of a bad marriage writ large — two nationalities living together that cannot stand each other. Now, more than three months after a general election, Belgium has failed to create a government, producing a crisis so profound that it has led to a flood of warnings, predictions, even promises that the country is about to disappear.
"We are two different nations, an artificial state created as a buffer between big powers, and we have nothing in common except a king, chocolate and beer," said Filip Dewinter, the leader of Vlaams Belang, or Flemish Bloc, the extreme-right, xenophobic Flemish party, in an interview. "It's `bye-bye, Belgium' time."
Radical Flemish separatists like Mr. Dewinter want to slice the country horizontally along ethnic and economic lines: to the north, their beloved Flanders — where Dutch (known locally as Flemish) is spoken and money is increasingly made — and to the south, French-speaking Wallonia, where a kind of provincial snobbery was once polished to a fine sheen and where today old factories dominate the grey landscape.
With the headquarters of both NATO and the European Union in Brussels the capital of Belgium, the crisis is not limited to this country because it could embolden other European separatist movements, among them the Basques, the Lombards and the Catalans. Boris Johnson, a British member of parliament has also warned the government of the new British prime minister Golden Brown in the Daily telegraph that the situation in Belgium like that of the Southern Cameroons will surely instigate Scotland and the Wales to seek for greater autonomy.
In Conclusion, Baudouin Bruggeman, a 55-year-old schoolteacher, sipping a glass of Champagne at the festival in Namur is quoted as saying, "Belgium has survived on compromise since 1830. Everyone puffs himself up in this banana republic. You have to remember that this is Magritte country, the country of surrealism. Anything can happen."


Talking to the Independent Gazette from Belgium where he is living on exile about the current SCYL strategies for the Independence of the Southern Cameroons, a prominent SCYL activist, Prince Lawrence Ayamba, Secretary of state of the Southern Cameroons Interim government in-exile, son of the SCNC chairman chief Ayamba and a top aid of the SCYL chairman Akwanga Ebenezer is quoted as saying that the Biya’s regime and the international community will hear from the SCYL after the Southern Cameroons London International Conference scheduled for September 29 – October 1, 2007.
Comparing the situation in Belgium to that in the Southern Cameroun, Prince Ayamba said it should serve as a server warning to Biya and his clique. “I believe we can’t just forget the disintegration of the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. The position of the SCNC and especially that of SCYL will remain unchanged until the lyrics of southern Cameroons Independence can be heard from the Mungo” he added.

The Secretary of state of the Southern Cameroons Interim government in-exile, Prince Lawrence Ayamba refused answering questions on the SCYL strategy and execution but quoted the late UPC chairman Ntumazah as saying "You may chain a man, but you will not chain his mind; you may enslave him, but you will not conquer his spirit; you may maintain the people in bondage by force, but sooner or later, their anger and frustration becomes so great that force cannot contain it. Then the edifice cracks, the mortar crumble."


Source: http://www.freewebs.com/scindpgazette/newsupdate.htm

limbeman

Simplice, Watesih and Morfaw, your comments on Mr. Vewesse's interview simply represents the thought processes of a simple mind and I must assure you that his veiled comments were meant for consumption by the complex mind.
What do you not understand when he makes references to the Eritrean, East Timor and the ANC struggle in acheiving the desired objectives for its people? These were all armed struggles.
What do you not understand when he says without an army to defend ourselves, we expose our vulnerable populations to the fury of a corrupt junta.
You must understand that Mr Vewesse is in Cameroon were Biya still rules with an iron fist and any direct call for a military struggle will land him in jail.
You wonder whether those dumb CENER agents cannot read through his message( you guys did not also), but as a very intelligent man, he ends up by calling for prayers and sensitization of the population, and so gives himself an argument for a way out if he is arrested.
I am not saying Mr Vewesse is right or Chief Ayamba is wrong. For all intents and purposes, I dont care.
I believe in one indivisible Cameroon, where there is freedom and fairness and equal oppurtunity for all. I believe the current regime has failed and does not represent any of those ideals. I believe that change is necessary so Cameroonians abroad and those at home can come together and work together and build a nation we can all be proud to call home.

ftroit

"At the Nsimaleng and Douala airports, Camerounian airport and immigration authorities are now cracking down on Southern Cameroonian activists returning home from the Diaspora on holidays. A glaring example is the case of Duke Ebogo Titus Ngwa, an SCNC activist from Cleveland-Ohio, USA who was arrested on Thursday August 30, 2007 in Yaoundé by the gendarmerie for wearing a SCAPO face cap and a white T-Shirt carrying the Southern Cameroons Flag with a very conspicuous FRSC bold-faced inscription on his T-shirt."--------
Hope this person's got U.S. citizenship already. If he doesn't, then he's one of those foolish ones whom the U.S. immigration services will seek to seize their residency status. If he is a U.S. citizen, then wow, the U.S. government needs to get involved on that one.
However, many [Southern] Cameroonians who've been granted political asylum play it very foolish. They return to Cameroon before obtaining citizenship in their countries of refuge. Some of them even enter the embassies/consulates of those countries back in Cameroon.

Muki StoneHall

Rexon and the others who believe in the "Force of Argument" should realize, and soon too, that singing a "national anthem" and hoisting flags once a year can, and will never grant freedom to an oppressed people.They should honestly stop deceiving and misleading Southern Cameroons. Freedom must be fought for, and no where in the world has freedom been fought for with words.
Until "Argument of Force" replaces "Force of Argument" and COURAGE replaces COWARDICE then can we start talking of fighting for freedom.

Ma Mary

A few points:

The practical value of the 1st October build up is as a sensitization and educational exercise, pure and simple. Over reaction of the Occupation Harm Forces of la Republique du Cameroun serves that function as well, for which we thank them.

I shall not tire of repeating that there is no SCNC cause, only a Southern Cameroons Cause. The SCNC is merely an instrument of that cause. You do not have to belong to the SCNC to be part of the Southern Cameroons struggle, but it is helpful when all individuals and groups collaborate to pull in the same direction.

Watesih

Ma Mary,
Keep making that point again ,and again! The Southern Cameroons course is not for a single group of people.This is the same message we have been passing over for a long time.We even tried to illustrate this with the Palestinian struggle which has many groups ,each stinging Israel when the need arises.The various groups raise money for the same course.That is what we have been doing,and must continue to do.It beats my imagination that those who have been trying to divide Southern Cameroonians have suddenly gone mute,since it has come to the fore that they prefer celebrations every year than action.Let Nje,and Rexon come out
and tell us how this ridiculous idea of argument of force is going to lead us to.
We need answers! If it were something about theSDF,we would have been seeing GREED,GREED, GREED written all over this forum.Over to you Nje,where are we going with force of argument,and where are football matches going to lead us?

simplice

Limbeman,Watesih and Ma Mary,
I still believe in "Political Marketing". You cannot preach a message without touching some key youth features.You need to cajole your targeted audience into some activity which identify with their core values and believes before you preach a sound message that will have an impact. Today manifestos aren't just of the antiquated order of going straight to the point;it takes some attracting event.Invite a young Southern Cameroonian to an SCNC forum and he'll tell you, he hasn't got time for that. However, in thesame token, ask him to participate in an even of his like aimed at professing the tendency of Southern Cameroons;he'll run for the passion and in due course will get sensitised sub-consciously.
I still maintain, Chief Ayamba week programme includes all factions of society; a non discriminatory agenda that shall pave the way to greater sensitisation.
The student and servant.

simplice

Ma Mary, many thanks for pointing out those remarkable points. I have always admired your diplomacy on this forum.Brilliant analysis indeed.

Ma Mary

People who do not want to engage in THEIR struggle often try to use the SCNC as an excuse, but there can be no excuse for ANY and EVERY Southern Cameroonian not to engage the struggle in their own way or by joining other groups, such as Ambazonia Liberation Party, the Southern Cameroons Youth League, SCAPO etc. The current SCNC executive is hemmed in and pressurized by la republique. That is expected. What are YOU doing to circumvent that pressure.

Crisis in the North American front had the effect of weakening the entire struggle. We are glad to report that the crisis is at an end. Any struggle needs finances, and if you do not have time or skills to give, you have $$$$.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

"Freedom must be fought for, and no where in the world has freedom been fought for with words.
Until "Argument of Force" replaces "Force of Argument" and COURAGE replaces COWARDICE then can we start talking of fighting for freedom."-MUKI

Good job Muki, that was a brilliant analysis.
I will be celebrating October 1st but I still have my suspicions about the SCNC. In my opinion, they lack grassroot support. The SCNC cannot be running around the world singing songs of southern cameroons liberation when they lack grassroot support.
Before you jump on my head and start talking about surveys, statistics, etc. I have one thing to tell you. October 1st will be the litmus test to prove if the SCNC really has the required grassroot support.The number of people who participate in the October 1st celebrations will tell us how southern cameroonians really fell about the SCNC. From the number of people who show up to the designated locations and try to partake in any of the celebrations on October 1st will prove if the SCNC really has that grassroot support.
October 1st will expose the truth. October 1st will put an end to all the arguments we have been having on this forum about whether the SCNC has grassroot support or not.
Let the actions of October 1st speak louder than words.

M Nje

Ma Mary,
When ones read the comments above, you wonder if you are in primary school. How naive can it get?


TO THOSE WHo MAKE STATEMENTS WITHOUT THINKING.

My dear friends, READ, READ, READ, READ. Read books, newspaper, and magazines, anything you find to enlighten yourself. Yes I mean enlighten yourself. Those of you who are good at quoting the success in other nationalist struggles have shown that you have never research to know how those struggles started, who started them, how they were progressively persued, and how they were supported. If you have, then you will not make the comments you make.

UnitedStateofAfrica,

Just assume that the struggle has no support and move on. How about that?

UnitedStatesofAfrica

yes M Nje, ignore the problem as you always do. Success shall always come when you ignore the problem. you guys are kidding yourselves.

Francis Nche

This issue of SCNC is engineered by the guys in diaspora to seek refugees statu with it. Here in Cameroon nobody knows about this except reading big stories in internet

andre fokam

Thank you Francis Nche!
finally, someone spoke about the reality of things on the ground in Cameroon. For those of you abroad making the "big headlines", keep swimming in your imaginary world.

Andre Fokam

Fon

Francis Nche,
That fib is too provocative. Do you mean Southern Cameroonians do not have a problem?

TAGRO

Francis Nche, so The Post that carries this SCNC story and others about the struggle, Chief Ayamba, CPN Vewessee are all in the diaspora "reading big stories in internet."?

Paa Ngembus

Dear Netters,

The Southern Cameroons Intelligence Services (SCIS) in collaboration with some foreign governments is investigating the neferious and criminal activities of about two dozen individuals in La Republique du Cameroun, Europe, The USA and Canada.

Some of these individuals have been traced as physical participants on this network.

A few of their pen names have been communicated to us:

Reverend
Francis Nche
Henriette
Tanyi Nkeng Ndip
UnitedStatesofAfrica
Mukete

Many of these individuals are francophone citizens of La Republique Francaise du Cameroun.

Their criminal activities span the whole gamut from conmen (feymen), intellectual property violators, human traffickers to immigration fraudsters.

Those individuals active on this network will be unmasked as the investigation proceeds and we get more information.

Stay tuned.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

Watesih

Ma Mary,
Don`t mind the escapist called Nje.
You can now see how difficult questions have pushed him into a tight corner.There is no news about the SDF,so he has only got to chicken out by telling USAfrica,"Just assume that the struggle has no support,and move on. How about that?".We are not here for assumptions.Assumptions mean we don`t know where we are headed for.Let Nje muster courage ,and tell us where their force of argument is going to lead us.This question must be answered!

andre fokam

Mr. Ngembus

your defense is too cheap. we know this technique, to brand your opponents as strangers, traitors, foreigners etc.., most dictators and despots use it.

Andre Fokam

M Nje

Watesih,
A few days ago you said Southern Cameroons is a legal part of La Republique Du Cameroun. You are indirectly implying ours is a worthless struggle. Given that impression, why are you worried about where the struggle is going? Just consider us as a group of noise makers and move on with your life. Is that not what you should do given your last comment that Southern Cameroons is a legal part of La Republique Du Cameroon.

I can assure you that any Southern Cameroons who seat down to study our case with an open mind will revolt and instead ask what they can do to accelerate the course.

With all due respect, let me repeat what I said to you sometime ago. You lack a basic understanding of geopolitical issues. If you can question why a football match should be part of an independent celebration, then I think you have a long way to go. READ, READ, READ, READ. Read books, newspapers, anything you see. Get yourself enlighten.

UnitedstateofAfrica,
The last time I check, your mission was to achieve a United State of Africa. To achieve that, you preached to us that we should abandon our struggle, give up our right to Self Determination so that you can achieve your dream. It is interesting to me that you have moved from being against the Southern Cameroons struggle, to demanding that your advice be taken into consideration. After providing your advice, now you are demanding for a report card. All of this happened in a few months.

Sir, with all due respect, we have a long memory. We know our detractors very well. No matter how they try to hide we still read in-between the lines.

Fon

Follow the link below to see where Cameroon is rubbing shoulders, 2007 Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI), released by Transparency International

http://www.transparency.org/news_room/latest_news/press_releases/2007/2007_09_26_cpi_2007_en

It is a shame.

Ma Mary

In the Cameroons, it is very common for people to deny that they have HIV/AIDS and to tell fictitious stories to themselves and others, all the while wasting away and infecting others. They do not go to be diagnosed and to seek treatment until it is too late. It is part of the conditioning.

Similarly conditioned are the simpletons who come out here and state, "there is no Southern Cameroons. Things are just peachy. There is no annexation and la republique and france are not screwing up." That is an "Emperor's new clothes" scenario and I cannot be part of stupidity even if I were the last sane person on earth.

Ma Mary

In other words, if you guys are drinking something that is making you delusional, dry out and come back.

Francis Nche, keep building in Yaounde and thinking it is your home, and hoping one day JFN would be president. Keep dreaming.

Watesih, you still think the SDF plan is good for Southern Cameroonians? At best it is temporizing or distraction. I might not spend time discussing it, but that is because in my estimation, it will fizzle out without my help.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

"UnitedstateofAfrica,
The last time I check, your mission was to achieve a United State of Africa. To achieve that, you preached to us that we should abandon our struggle, give up our right to Self Determination so that you can achieve your dream."- M Nje
Yes! Mr. M Nje, your naivety and ignorant is killing you once again. Can you quote when I ever said that the people of Southern Cameroons should surrender their right to self-determination to La republique? you take things out of context, manipulate them and use them for the usual bullshit SCNC propaganda.
Go back and read what I have been saying. What I proposed was that the people of Southern Cameroons should fight for the adoption of a federal system like the one in the United states. With a federal system, Southern Cameroons have the full capacity to rule themselves without any influence from La Republique. This is in compliance with our goal for a united Africa.
Our goal for a united states of Africa is not one state under one president and one military. What we want is a federal, united Africa like the federal system in America. All regions of Africa will have the right to rule themselves and we will have a congress made up of members from all African countries in Addis Ababas.
So Mr. M Nje, go to my earlier write-ups and read what I have been writing carefully before you make accusations. Always check your facts before you run your mouth carelessly Mr. M Nje because right now, you sound like Mr. M JOKE
CHEERS!

UnitedStatesofAfrica

October 1st shall determine whether the SCNC has grassroot support or not. From the people who participate in the October 1st celebrations, we will all know if the majority of Southern cameroonians are supporting the SCNC. On this forum, people always come trying to prove their intelligence. They quote all sorts of textbooks, writers and use all kinds of high-sounding words. October 1st will determine if all this "knowledge" matches the reality in Cameroon
ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS and the action of the Southern Cameroonian people on October 1st will tell us how the Southern cameroon feels about the SCNC
I can't hardly wait for October 1st. It will a pivotal day on this forum.
Happy October 1st celebrations
Cheers!!!!

UnitedStatesofAfrica

"The Southern Cameroons Intelligence Services (SCIS) in collaboration with some foreign governments is investigating the neferious and criminal activities of about two dozen individuals in La Republique du Cameroun, Europe, The USA and Canada."- Paa NgemGOAT

Pa NgemGOAT,
Listen to how you sound? read over what you wrote and really listen to how you sound? you sound like a ten year old playing a game of "police and thieves" with his friends. An old man like you trying to scare people by making such childish statements? SCIS in collaboration with some foreign goverments? are you kidding me Pa NgemGOAT? we are in primary school? which foreign governments are you talking about? the asylum group of Europe that holds weekly meetings in Ma Mary's house? are you serious NgemGOAT? this is not primary school ok? this is a forum for serious ideas.

"Their criminal activities span the whole gamut from...to immigration fraudsters."-Paa NgemGOAT

Paa NgemGOAT,
This just made me laugh. It just reminded of the joke about a fool holding up a mirror and saying "This person in this mirror is the most ugliest person I have ever seen". The fool forgets that he is looking at his own reflection. Paa NgemGOAT, You are accusing us of being immigration fraudsters? are you joking or you are serious? has Paa NgemGOAT got mad? Paa NgemGOAT, everybody in Cameroon knows that the highest immigration fraudsters are the SCNC. You guys lie that you are being persecuted, you bribe gerdarmes and politicians for fake documents and you contact your other fraudsters abroad to finalize the process by making more malicious documents.
Paa NgemGOAT, are you sick? this "SCNC internet war" you are fighting must be giving you a fever. See a doctor NGEMGOAT, then visit a psychiatric ward. If the none of the above work then my dear goat, you have use. We will them take the goat, Paa NgemGOAT, to the slaughterhouse. I am sure we can find people who are dying to eat dead goat meat.
Cheers!!!


Paa Ngembus

FuckAm,

My dear little Froggie.

There is no need to panic. I see you are almost pieing in your pants.

Not necessary for now my dear. Your name did not feature on the list SCIS forwarded to us.

To tell you the truth, I was surprised, especially given my personal knowledge of you and some of what you have been involved in.

The clamp might be closing in on you for all I know, but sorry I do not have any relevant information to pre-warn you.

However if I were you I would be worried. Uncle Sam may be after you.

Take care filston.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.


Paa Ngembus

USAfrica,

You reacted exactly like I thought you would.

Like a panicked little dog (a chihuahua to be exact) that has been cornered.

You realize your predicament too late and you are pretending to be brave.

You and your ilk are cooked man.

You are lucky I pre-warned you.

If I were you I would escape before Uncle Sam shows up, because you will end up in jail if convicted and afer that you will be deported to your little rat hole in La Republique du Cameroun.

Well, as they say you frogs are so dumb and arrogant in your ignorance, you will not realize you were in the path of a moving train even with the horns blaring.

See you later jail bird.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Pa NgemGOAT,
listen to yourself? SCIS? hahahahahahahhahahahaah....this is comedy right here. Has the SCNC degenerated to this? petty threats from fake organizations? where is your SCIS headquarters? in Ma Mary's "head-tie"? or you NgemGOAT's toilet? hahahahahahhahaha....wonders shall never seize.

Paa Ngembus

USAfrica,

You are exhibiting the true symptoms of someone suffering from a panic attack.

It is not SCIS that is after you. It is the US government. The SCIS is collaborating and providing the information it has gathered on you to the Feds. Your collaborators in Yaounde are also being trailed.

You know what you are being investigated for.

Unfortunately I cannot help you out on this one, but if I were you I would hire a good lawyer.

Later my little ugly chihauhau.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

hahaha....Paa NgemGOAT, please don't stop the comedy. Me and my friends are dying with laughter...please keep on, please I am begging you. You are really an ass, a jester, a fool, a clown....my dear fool please go on!!!

Paa Ngembus

USAfrica,

My little ugly chihuahua.

You know what they say to little panicky buffoons like you don't you?

Laugh now while the handcuffs are not on you yet my little Froggie.

Laughter sometimes hides your fears temporarily.

I really hope for your sake that the last laugh shall be yours and not Fed's my little ragamuffin.

See you later jail bird.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

hahaha Pa NgemGOAT, I can see you are struggling for words. Repeating the same thing over and over and showing everybody how insecure you are. I will say anything, you will drown in your own idiotic mess. Keep ridiculing yourself Paa NgemGOAT, it works to my advantage.

Kumbaboy

Ma Mary,

The SDF has no credible plan for Southern Cameroons as a separate entity.

Mr Paul Biya actively placates the international anglophone community, funds the SDF obliquely and woos Fru Ndi from a distance as part of a strategy to create buffering forces between the CPDM and the SCNC. So far, he is succeeding.

For all our criticism of Mr Paul Biya, history is set to acknowledge him for possessing the foremost political skills of his generation.

KB

Ma Mary

Kumbaboy,

That is the game at play, and it is true even if it is offensive to SDF adherents of good will, that their party is being used.

When fighting a giant with big resources, you do not engage in a battle field of their choosing nor play their game. One chooses the game, the time and avoids battle fields to maximise the vulnerable spots and then hone on them with force and precision.

Paa Ngembus

USAfrica,

I doubt you have the analytical brain to capture this.

However, as someone interested in your educatin and growth, I will try.

Reread what Ma Mary just said above and you might see through it to get a glimpse of what she is talking about.

You can continue your whimpy rambling, my little chihuahua. It will not change your luck. The die is cast already my friend. Just sit and wait for the Feds.

Take heart however, when you disappear from this network like Mukete, Riccardo or Reverend before you, we will at least know where you are.

Take care my little bloke.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

PS: BTW Ma Mary, where are you located. I thought you were here in the US. Up at 4:44AM?

Watesih

Nje,
Continue pretending that the Southern Cameroons is not a legal part of La Republique.That escapism of yours is not going to wish away the fundamental problem.The Southern Cameroons surrendered its territory to La Republique,was completely assimilated,with the help of bodies like the UN.That is why you keep asking people to take on the UN.But you don`t want to explain this fact to Southern Cameroonians.We will keep doing it for you.Cite any laws that you have drawn up for the Southern Cameroons to show that it is not a legal part of La Republique.You seem not to understand the allusion made about football matches.Simply put ,we are decrying the fact that you guys pretend not to be a legal part of La Republique,yet you apply for venues,and organise football games in their playgrounds.What type of freedom fighter can be enjoting football matches in a foreign territory? Nje,since you muster courage to speak,can you answer the question as to where the force of argument is going to lead us? Tell us,this is part of your roadmap!

Ma Mary,
Don`t fall into the cheap wits that Rexon,and Nje have been spinning here.What is distraction? What do we distract? The SDF was founded to play politics on a national platform,and the SCNC was founded to fight for complete autonomy.Where should their policies correlate? Why only rush to ask questions about the SDF,when you can not tell us when Chief Ayamba will stop organising celebrations on La Republique`s territory.The SDF`s plan is for Cameroon,and
the SCNC plan is for the Southern Cameroons.
You guys must stop distracting Southern Cameroonians about the SDF,while at the same time organising celebrations in La Republique`s land.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Pa NgemGOAT, have you ran out of insults? I have discovered the best way to deal with an overexcited imbecile like you.
I can hardly wait for October 1st, I am just so psyched about that day. On October 1st, we will all know whether the SCNC has grassroot support in Southern Cameroons. We people go about their daily lives or will they celebrate? do people really see the SCNC as their last hope or do they think they are just making empty noise? October 1st will tell and I can't hardly wait. In a few days, the truth shall surface
CHEERS!!!

Ma Mary

The little cock from Minneapolis, Minnesota crows again!

Ma Mary

Southern Cameroons annexed, occupied, colonized remains Southern Cameroons, not la Republique's land.

Validating the occupation power is at best a distraction. At worst...

Paa Ngembus

USAfrica,

Keep it up little whimp.

How many times have you wetted your undies since you realized the Feds were after you -:) -:) -:)?

On a more serious note, The Southern Cameroons is still under occupations by La Republique Francaise du Cameroun.

Since the SCNC stared celebrating October 1st, La Republique has been shooting and killing our people.

On October 1st the brave will come out in full force to celebrate because nothing can stop our march to freedom.

La Republique's brutal army of occupation has already been deployed in every county of the Southern Cameroons to prevent the celebration.

My question to the blokes on this forum is, if the people neither care nor worry about Southern Cameroons independence, why deploy 10,000 military thugs to prevent the celebration.

They are arresting and intimidating our people, but nothing will stop us from celebrating our Day of Independence from British colonialism, before being laterally recolonized by La Republique.

Like Vewesse fears, the repression will be brutal and as has been the case every year, our citizens might be butchered. If some of our citizens are afraid of the military thugs and chose to stay indoors it will be understandable.

However, La Republique knows they are having the last kicks of a dieing horse.

NOTHING and I mean NOTHING can stop Southern Cameroons self determinantion.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.


UnitedStatesofAfrica

I will reserve all my comments till October 1st....the watershed day we shall all know if the SCNC is that power revolutionary pressure group in Cameroon Ma Mary, rexon, Legimah Doh(who has been absent for awhile. The immigration officers have been chasing him apparently, Paa NgemGOAT, etc.
I will reserve my words till my October 1st...I can't hardly wait.

Paa Ngembus

USAfrica,

I hope you will still have your civil liberties by October 1st.

Let's hope the Feds will not have the cuffs on you by then.

However we are willing to come to your jail cell to get your comments/words especially given that the deliverance of the Southern Cameroons depends so much on them.

Pitiful delusional pig.

A+

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Paa NgemGOAT, October 1st is all I have to say, October 1st.

Paa Ngembus

USAfrica,

My little whimpy buffoon.

Do I need to remind you.

October 1st is Southern Cameroons Independence Day.

You know in MN, USA where you live and work/school Americans celebrate July 4th as American Independence Day.

You frog brothers celebrate July 14th, the day the frogs stormed the Bastille prison.

We Southern Cameroonians don't expect foreigners like you to celebrate our October 1st Independence Day with us, but we do expect you to at least recognize and respect it.

Take care my little ugly chihuahua.

A+

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

rexon

Ma Mary and Kumbaboy,

Our politicians romancing with La Republique francaise du Cameroun know that they are mainly involved in a business to colour a democracy. We have political parties registered under the Laws of the Southern Cameroons. If they are up to any good, they should play our own politics. It is just the "Gombo" from Biya that is pushing them to these camerounese politics. They have choose laws and vaalues to respect and disregard. They have openly disregarded the right for self determination of their own people in return for bribes from La Republique.

It is customary when talking about the careers of these people in Camerounese politics to strike a note of sorrow, of ultimate failures, of unfulfilled promises to the Southern Cameroonian people, etc. They would leave the Southern Cameroonian people finally unsatisfied and in Limbo. They question i want to ask you all is, should we keep leaving them fooling our people. Not me, i wont. My thread is, they together with all the colonialist from La Republique must be bundled out.

Cheers.

Akoson


...and Rexon what are you doing to bundle them out? Organise football matches, write on newspaper fora, hoist flags?

The Anglophone movement has failed woefully. It MAY be better to do romance with La Republique, and at the same time FORCING them toe the line than engage in a struggle that no one is willing to sacrifice.

The Son

Watesih

Rexon,
Tell us which of our political parties are registered un Southern Cameroons Laws,and which are these Laws.And tell us more about the politicians you refer to as "ours" romancing with La Republique.This because everybody knows as a freedom fighter,you should be talking about freedom fighters not your politicians.Can anybody still have dobts as to your immersion in the politics of La Republique? Keep playing for time why your brother is brings home money from the murderous regime to help some of your family memebers.

Ma Mary,
Freedom fighting has nothing to do with spinning all big words out of the dictionary.The Southern Cameroons was not annexed.It surrendered its identity to La Republique.It is up to La Republique to mete out the type of treatment it deems necessary to this cheap gift,and it is up to us to refuse her this privilege.This cannot be done through intestinal squabbles,nor can it be done through history lessons,and boisterous celebrations.If the SCNC bullheadedly continues to play the tortoise,
by involving in gimmicks that are nothing but second-guessing,then it will not be long when Southern Cameroonians will officially consider them as ,"people who are unable to lead,and who are unwilling to learn the right thing".The sanctions already seem to be in:when Nfor Ngalla Nfor is being arrested ,onlookers stand at akimbo enjoying the scene.Lets not talk about arresting any Palestinian leader,lets talk about Fru Ndi under house arrest.How many Southern Cameroonians camped out with him? Your answer will be as good as mine!

M Nje

Watesih,
Ignorance is sometimes worse that the most killer disease. Ignornace, ignorance is what is killing you.

Read what Kumbaboy wrote above on Thursday, 27 September 2007 at 11:26 PM. He said it all.

I don`t expect you to understand the legal arguments that Southern Cameroons is not a legal part of La Republique. That will be demanding too much from you. But know that great scholars with a great depth in law and great analytical skills have studies the question and came out with very clear answers. But such answers required a great deal of analytical skills to comprehend. It does not suprise me when you say Southern Cameroons is a legal part of La Republique Du Cameroun. You may think by stating that some people will believe you. I can assure you you are just exposing your inability to either understand the legal argument or your usual displace of blindness.

This struggle is hard work. It requires great sacrifice and dedication. If you want immediate benefits, if you want a few peanuts to leave a good life, just continue with your SDF. In 2011, they will be another elections. Biya will provide your SDF will more money for and pay bills. Just stick with your profitiable business in the name of SDF. We support this struggle knowing very well the sacrifice that is required. We are not ever looking backward. No matter the distraction, we are ready to take it to the end. You can continue to try to distract the public but I can tell you that the Southern Cameroons struggle is based on FACTS. Those facts will continue to be ther. It is those FACTS that are our greatest weapon.

Why is La Republique sending gendarmes to arrest Southern Cameroons if they don`t know that we are exposing the truth. Why worry about us? Your chairman has carried all of you in your SDF to a dead end. You are looking for people to blame for that. You have not seen anything.


Watesih

Nje,
Why are you quarrelling? Has our points driven you to the periphery? You have not yet seen anything! Instead of telling me that Kumbaboy frowns with the fact that you keep cosying up to the UN to come and put an autonomous state on your table,you are telling me about the usual sing-song about Fru Ndi.Among all the contributors on this forum,you seem to be the dullest,because you debate something you know little about:Here how a blindman speaks:"Watesih, I have always tried not to comment on the reason behind the creation of the SDF,because I cannot find any coherent information.All my research so far has yielded conflicting accounts".This is the same individual who smears himself with feaces,telling the world:"What i have gathered about the SDF is that it was created to take over power from the Cpdm.Whether that was a right struggle or not is for another debate." The question now is ,knowing fully well the party was created to take over power from the Cpdm,what is you bone of contention behind the party? Are you a Cpdm member? Readers can therefore see how illusion chasers suffering from myopia,would do everything to distract Southern Cameroonians about the SDF they know little about.Nje,the question i asked you about the force of argument has proved to be above yourhead.That is KO number one.The second problem is your inability to explain how Southern Cameroons is not a legal part of La Republique.AS a freedom fighter,and intellectual ,i challenge to pick up this debate,and put us at odds.Telling the world about great scholars only make you a laughing stock.We all know what you are waiting for,but you are waiting for Goddot.How can a man who blames the UN for helping in our enslavement continue fantasizing about this same UN to come and carve out a state for him.Here him ".. It became clear that the real fight is for the UN,and UK to correct the injustice that was perpetuated on Southern Cameroonians, and grant them their right to a state under international law.And that struggle has continued on that part till date" He even talks about the UK.Your co-disciple Rexon discovered long ago that the UK can not wish us good,thats why he started voting with them.You know it is always said ,"If you can`t beat them ,join them".Thats what Rexon is doing,and thats what you are craving for.Freedom fighters my foot!

Ma Mary

Since 1984, the following great Southern Cameroonians have been detained by la Republique:

Gorji Dinka
Albert Mukong
Justice Ebong
Ebenezer Akwanga
Ambassador Fossung
Frida Ngwa
Martin Luma
Chief Ayamba
Nfor Ngalla Nfor
Prince Humphrey Mbinglo

and many others

Ask yourself why they have never been brought to court for the charge of "seccession", which would have been the most rational thing to do if we were a legal part of la republique francais du cameroun? The answer is in plain sight. It is because the charge would not hold in a properly constituted court. There ain't any marriage, so there cannot even be divorce. We have the right to just walk away. We have been kidnapped, held by force.

This fact should be the departure point for any Southern Cameroonian who is still in doubt. Let me make one thing clear. All great changes start with a few, perhaps a handful. The modern Southern Cameroons movement was started according to some friends by the late Bernard Fonlon meeting with a handful of people including Gorji Dinka. Fonlon had been into the corrupt center, the heart of the monster this Jonah fish and knew there was no way forward through this stinking and sticky mud.

We shall get our country back.

Ma Mary

Watesih, I do not disagree with Rexon and MNje. I just do not like to belabor a point, but to contribute to dialogue. I really do believe that SDF is taking Southern Cameroonians eyes off the ball. If we act in concert we achieve sooner

M Nje

Watesih,
Basic communication norms require that when you cite someones words or work you provide the source.

Please provide the source to the statements above. Let readers see were you brought time. In particular, let them see the context in which I made the statements.

Also provide the source for these statments in particular:

"What i have gathered about the SDF is that it was created to take over power from the Cpdm.Whether that was a right struggle or not is for another debate."

Don`t forget to provide the source for these statements

I am not going to labor readers with the legal facts that Southern Cameroons has against La Republique. They have been provided here many times by me, Ma Mary, Akonson, Rexon, ..... and many more individuals who have the audacity to stand up and speak the truth. If you did not read them you decided to do so. I will provide them to any other reader who may not have had the chance to see them if they asked for them in this forum.

Again read the statementsd Kumbabody made above. If you don`t understand them or you decided not to understand them as you usually do, ask him for clarification

Watesih

Ma Mary,
You disagree with Rexon,and Nje,
that`s why you always fidget about dialogue everytime you see them blasting all hopes away.When you say ,when we act in concert,we achieve sooner,its because you know what dialogue can bring about.This is exactly what Rexon,and Nje lack,and do not want.
Ma Mary,you really take La Republique guys for fools.How would you charge people who hold one little press conference a year for secession? La Republique merely picks them up,locks them up,and when it releases them,it knows they will only comeback a year after.You cannot charge somebody with secession when you haven`t seen enough proof that he wants to secede.Police stations,are enough to take care of people who come once a year,and start organising football matches
.Why has China not attacked Taiwan? Its because she knows that what the Taiwanese leader is doing is lip service.The day he will muster his courage and do it,they will storm him.Nobody kidnapped us.We went in with our eyes open,and must do everything to come out with our eyes open.When you are held by force what do you do?

Nje,
Do you want readers to see where i brought them or to see the context in which you made them? Your words are clear,and readers got the meaning.Or you mean the context is going to change your words? Ha ha,you don`t see weti! I have read Kumbaboy`s statement,and it is not different from what Rexon has been saying here about colouring La Republique`s democracy.What is so entertaining about it that a blindman like you will want others to enjoy also? You like transfering your brains to others.If you can`t debate ,quit!Provide the legal bases you are talking about.I want to challenge them.And you are free to call in any of those your scholars to come to your rescue.References: "What i have gathered about the SDF....( Nje, Thursday,23 August 2007). " ..It became clear that the real fight is the UN,and UK to correct the injustice....( Nje, Friday ,24th August 2007).The context is your looking up to bodies that enslaved us.What other context do you want?

" If you want to tread on the wind,you should have wings to fly"

UnitedStatesofAfrica

"We support this struggle knowing very well the sacrifice that is required. We are not ever looking backward. No matter the distraction, we are ready to take it to the end."- M Nje,
Hahahaha let me not laugh. Mr. M Nje iF you want to really fight this battle, please pack you things, abandon your asylum status in Europe and go back to Cameroon and fight the real battle. Go to Cameroon, go to Buea, go to Douala, go to Bamenda, go to Yaounde, go to all these places and challenge Biya and his people let me see. You sit in your asylum camps and write nonsense on the internet. Who told you that Nelson Mandela shattered apartheid by fighting his war on the internet and hiding inside his room? did Rosa Parks help end segregation by just sitting quiet and doing nothing? eh?
You SCNC poeple are hypocrites, BIG TIME HYPOCRITES. You comfortably sit in Europe and use all types of words to praise yourselves. You call yourselves freedom fighters, analytical this, analytical that, beholders of the truth bla bla bla while people are dying in Cameroon everyday. The real people who are fighting Biya are suffering are dying in Cameroon while Idiots like you are selling ice-cream in Europe and at the end of the day, you come to the internet and say you are fighting the battle to the every end. NONSENSE!!!!

Ma Mary

USAf, your benchmarks mean nothing to the project, mostly because you are an unconstructive critic. You will never be privy to what we are actually doing practically for the people of the Southern Cameroons, because talking to you is the same as talking to the occupier. We do not discuss such things with the occupier or its agents. It is the invisible actions of catalysts or enzymes, if you get my drift.

If you think our work is solely on the internet, you are deluded, but the internet is a helpful tool for bringing in new minds, and for that I thank you among others for being foils. Every week we have these arguments brings a couple more creative and positive people.

There is a point you keep making about us being ice cream vendors and low income laborers in the west. You do not really know, do you? If you think that is the case, you either lack judgement or you are deliberately fabricating rubbish. Either of those is not a good place to be. The odds are that I could employ you. I am making money every minute I am on the web. Are you? A nice chunk of that change goes to the cause. How or where it goes, I would have to kill you if I told you. So stop trying to provoke people to find out. The results shall come when they come and you shall see them, but we are not on your clock, so stop harping about 1st October, little man.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

"we are not on your clock, so stop harping about 1st October, little man."- Ma Mary
Ma Mary,
If I would have called you little woman, you would have jumped on my head and called me sexist, a chauvinistic SASSE boy, and the list goes on. HYPOCRISY is what I have come to expect from these SCNC people on this forum. You say one thing, you do another, you preach on thing, you practice.
You guys are always quick to praise yourselves. You and your brothers Legima Doh, rexon and Paa ngemGoat never hesitate to call yourselves wise, analytical, intelligent etc. Yet Ma Mary, you are boosting about how much money you make and how you can employ me. What ever happened to the humility of the wise? HYPOCRISY
When discussions start getting hot, you unleash your bull dog Paa NgemGOAT to do the dirty work. He says all types of vulgar things but when someone strikes back at that toothless bulldog, you guys say oh you are this, you are that, you are unconstructive. Are the comments by Paa NgemGOAT constructive? eh Ma Mary answer the answer? are his comments constructive? HYPOCRITE

I will wait for October 1ST Ma Mary, I will impatiently wait because it was a pivotal day for me. It is the day that will prove what I have always said on this forum. I have always said that the SCNC is running in the UN every day when they lack grassroot support in Cameroons. From the number of people in southern cameroons who partake in this October 1st celebration, we will know if the people of southern cameroon really give a damn about the SCNC or not.

Ma Mary is the PIMP and Paa NgemGOAT is the whore. Ma Mary sends him to go around and do all the dirty.

Ma Mary, you little girl, your hypocrisy has been exposed.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Ma Mary is the PIMP and Paa NgemGOAT is the whore. Ma Mary sends him around to do all the dirty work. When Paa NgemGOAT has done what he does best, he brings the money to Ma Mary and they split the profits.

Ma Mary

Have a nice weekend. I shall not trade ad hominems with you, kiddo.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

you ought not to little girl. I hope you have learned your lesson.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

In case you haven't, the lesson is "HYPOCRITES WILL ALWAYS PAY HEAVY PRICE FOR THEIR DECEIT"
Now have good weekend too little girl
Cheers!!!!

rexon

Unitedstatesofafrica,

Thabo Mbeki, Olivier Tambo were based in London while working for the ANC. DeGaulle rallied french people from London to liberate France. Lumumba, et al have all worked for the liberation of their respective countries from abroad and the list is just too long. Why do you keep provoking people? We are just standing for the truth and even in the face of death, if we are honest to ourselves, we should still take the truth to our graves. We are not fighting for something that we can implement in one month or sooner, but it is a long term battle and we are just "INSTRUMENTS" of this truth. If we are up to riches, then politics with La Republique would be a better option for us. If any of you want quick results without standing for the truth, then join the SDF and other political parties romancing with La Republique.

Watesih,

As i have been in this game both in the postnewsline and on the field both in Cameroon and abroad, i have at least learnt something. One of which is, when faced with a threat like the CPDM, it is better to stand clear of all their activities. The alternative can never be for some to allow themselves to be used by Biya to colour his fake democracy. If they stand clear, even in their homes, yes some will go to parliament. That some would surely be self-proclaimed traitors. My call to all romancing in camerounese politics like those handclappers in their parliament have always been, since they are pretending, (yes pretending) that they are up to any good, they are better off standing clear of Biya's politics. Since they have always refused to stand clear even in the face of impossibilities, one can only deduce that they are in business. And gentleman, you can deny it, but you know that they are in business to colour a democracy. I am only citing this up to teach my people not to be fooled. That in my opinion is the moral responsibility of all rightminded Southern Cameroonians.

Cheers Brother.

Paa Ngembus

USAfrica,

If you get nothing else from this debate, get at least this:

".... we are not on your clock...." - Ma Mary

You will not know when it happens and you will never learn who is doing what my little traitor.

Like a little ugly chihuahua, you bark and bark and bark, but you will get nowhere.

I have to thank you though. By using you a fodder on this forum, the Southern Cameroons freedom train has recruited many adherents both at home and abroad.

You you are at least contributing something to the cause and for that I thank you.

That said I can not end withour reiterating that you are still a buffoon.

Hmmmmm, Ma Mary in what sense did you use the word "little" in "little man"? The little nincompoop seems really ticked off by it.

Take care.

Paa Ngembus
THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS SHALL BE DECOLONIZED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

UnitedStatesofAfrica

Paa NgemGOAT, there's no doubt that you are "big" man. Whores are "big" men so we are ot surprised.
Ma Mary is the PIMP and Paa NgemGOAT is the WHORE. She sends you out to do all her dirty work. When you're done, you bring them profits and both of you share.

Rexon,
it's good to see you are back after a long absence. I can see your immigration status is getting better and better. Your brother Legima Doh is also missing these days. Rexon, give him some tips on how you managed your status for as we speak, he risks deportation. Please hook him up with all those SCNC people who arrange false "doki" so that his life might be saved.

Paa NgemGOAT, please equally feel free to share your asylum tricks with Legima Doh when your SCIS holds its weekly meetings at Ma Mary's house.
Cheers.......

UnitedStatesofAfrica

...from the news i'm getting, MK the southerner might have already been deported.
Paa NgemGOAT, I know you have a part-time job to do this night but when you have finished selling ice-cream , can you please ocnfirm the story?
thanks!!!!

UnitedStatesofAfrica

*confirm the story

Fon

Text of President Robert Mugabe's speech at 62nd Session of UN General Assembly

Statement by His Excellency the President of the Republic of Zimbabwe, Comrade R. G. Mugabe, on the occasion of the 62nd Session of the United Nations General Assembly, New York, 26 September, 2007
Last updated: 09/27/2007 05:30:13
Your Excellency, President of the 62ndSession of the United Nations General Assembly,
Mr. Srgjan Kerim,
Your Majesties,
Your Excellencies, Heads of State and Government,
Your Excellency the Secretary-General of the United Nations, Mr. Ban Ki-Moon,
Distinguished Delegates,
Ladies and Gentlemen.
Mr. President,
Allow me to congratulate you on your election to preside over this august assembly. We are confident that through your stewardship, issues on this 62nd Session agenda be dealt with in a balanced manner and to the satisfaction of all.
Let me also pay tribute to your predecessor, Madame Sheikha Haya Rashed Al Khalifa, who steered the work of the 61st Session in a very competent and impartial manner.
Her ability to identify the crucial issues facing the world today will be remembered as the hallmark of her presidency.
Mr. President,
We extend our hearty welcome to the new Secretary-General, Mr. Ban Ki-Moon, who has taken up this challenging job requiting dynamism in confronting the global challenges of the 21st Century. Balancing global interests and steering the United Nations in a direction that gives hope to the multitudes of the poor, the sick, the hungry and the marginalized, is indeed a mammoth task. We would like to assure him that Zimbabwe will continue to support an open, transparent and all-inclusive multilateral approach in dealing with these global challenges.
Mr. President,
Climate change is one of the most pressing global issues of our time. Its negative impact is greatest in developing countries, particularly those on the African continent. We believe that if the international community is going to seriously address the challenges of climate change, then we need to get our priorities right. In Zimbabwe, the effects of climate change have become more evident in the past decade as we have witnessed increased and recurrent droughts as well as occasional floods, leading to enormous humanitarian challenges.
Mr. President,
We are for a United Nations that recognises the equality of sovereign nations and peoples whether big or small. We are averse to a body in which the economically and militarily powerful behave like bullies, trampling on the rights of weak and smaller states as sadly happened in Iraq. In the light of these inauspicious developments, this Organisation must surely examine the essence of its authority and the extent of its power when challenged in this manner.
Such challenges to the authority of the UN and its Charter underpin our repeated call for the revitalisation of the United Nations General Assembly, itself the most representative organ of the UN. The General Assembly should be more active in all areas including those of peace and security. The encroachment of some U.N. organs upon the work of the General Assembly is of great concern to us. Thus any process of revitalizing or strengthening of the General Assembly should necessarily avoid eroding the principle of the accountability of all principal and subsidiary organs to the General Assembly.
Mr. President,
Once again we reiterate our position that the Security Council as presently constituted is not democratic. In its present configuration, the Council has shown that it is not in a position to protect the weaker states who find themselves at loggerheads with a marauding super-power. Most importantly, justice demands that any Security Council reform redresses the fact that Africa is the only continent without a permanent seat and veto power in the Security Council. Africa's demands are known and enunciated in the Ezulwini consensus.
Mr. President,
We further call for the U.N. system to refrain from interfering in matters that are clearly the domain of member states and are not a threat to international peace and security. Development at country level should continue to be country-led, and not subject to the whims of powerful donor states.
Mr President,
Zimbabwe won its independence on 18th April, 1980, after a protracted war against British colonial imperialism which denied us human rights and democracy. That colonial system which suppressed and oppressed us enjoyed the support of many countries of the West who were signatories to the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Even after 1945, it would appear that the Berlin Conference of 1884, through which Africa was parcelled to colonial European powers, remained stronger than the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It is therefore clear that for the West, vested economic interests, racial and ethnocentric considerations proved stronger than their adherence to principles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
The West still negates our sovereignties by way of control of our resources, in the process making us mere chattels in out own lands, mere minders of its trans-national interests. In my own country and other sister states in Southern Africa, the most visible form of this control has been over land despoiled from us at the onset of British colonialism.
That control largely persists, although it stands firmly challenged in Zimbabwe, thereby triggering the current stand-off between us and Britain, supported by her cousin states, most notably the United States and Australia. Mr Bush, Mr. Blair and now Mr Brown's sense of human rights precludes our people's right to their God-given resources, which in their view must be controlled by their kith and kin. I am termed dictator because I have rejected this supremacist view and frustrated the neo-colonialists.
Mr President,
Clearly the history of the struggle for out own national and people's rights is unknown to the president of the United States of America. He thinks the Declaration of Human Rights starts with his last term in office! He thinks he can introduce to us, who bore the brunt of fighting for the freedoms of our peoples, the virtues of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. What rank hypocrisy!
Mr President,
I lost eleven precious years of my life in the jail of a white man whose freedom and well- being I have assured from the first day of Zimbabwe's Independence. I lost a further fifteen years fighting white injustice in my country.
Ian Smith is responsible for the death of well over 50 000 of my people. I bear scars of his tyranny which Britain and America condoned. I meet his victims everyday. Yet he walks free. He farms free. He talks freely, associates freely under a black Government. We taught him democracy. We gave him back his humanity.
He would have faced a different fate here and in Europe if the 50 000 he killed were Europeans. Africa has not called for a Nuremberg trial against the white world which committed heinous crimes against its own humanity. It has not hunted perpetrators of this genocide, many of whom live to this day, nor has it got reparations from those who offended against it. Instead it is Africa which is in the dock, facing trial from the same world that persecuted it for centuries.
Let Mr. Bush read history correctly. Let him realise that both personally and in his representative capacity as the current President of the United States, he stands for this "civilisation" which occupied, which colonised, which incarcerated, which killed. He has much to atone for and very little to lecture us on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. His hands drip with innocent blood of many nationalities.
He still kills.
He kills in Iraq. He kills in Afghanistan. And this is supposed to be our master on human rights?
He imprisons.
He imprisons and tortures at Guantanamo. He imprisoned and tortured at Abu Ghraib. He has secret torture chambers in Europe. Yes, he imprisons even here in the United States, with his jails carrying more blacks than his universities can ever enroll. He even suspends the provisions of the Universal Declaration on Human Rights. Take Guantanamo for example; at that concentration camp international law does not apply. The national laws of the people there do not apply. Laws of the United States of America do not apply. Only Bush's law applies. Can the international community accept being lectured by this man on the provisions of the universal declaration of human rights? Definitely not!
Mr President, We are alarmed that under his leadership, basic rights of his own people and those of the rest of the world have summarily been rolled back. America is primarily responsible for rewriting core tenets of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. We seem all guilty for 9/11. Mr. Bush thinks he stands above all structures of governance, whether national or international.
At home, he apparently does not need the Congress. Abroad, he does not need the UN, international law and opinion. This forum did not sanction Blair and Bush's misadventures in Iraq. The two rode roughshod over the UN and international opinion. Almighty Bush is now corning back to the UN for a rescue package because his nose is bloodied! Yet he dares lecture us on tyranny. Indeed, he wants us to pray for him! We say No to him and encourage him to get out of Iraq. Indeed he should mend his ways before he clambers up the pulpit to deliver pieties of democracy.
Mr President,
The British and the Americans have gone on a relentless campaign of destabilising and vilifying my country. They have sponsored surrogate forces to challenge lawful authority in my country. They seek regime change, placing themselves in the role of the Zimbabwean people in whose collective will democracy places the right to define and change regimes.
Let these sinister governments be told here and now that Zimbabwe will not allow a regime change authored by outsiders. We do not interfere with their own systems in America and Britain. Mr Bush and Mr Brown have no role to play in our national affairs. They are outsiders and mischievous outsiders and should therefore keep out! The colonial sun set a long time ago; in 1980in the case of Zimbabwe, and hence Zimbabwe will never be a colony again. Never!
We do not deserve sanctions. We are Zimbabweans and we know how to deal with our problems. We have done so in the past, well before Bush and Brown were known politically. We have our own regional and continental organizations and communities.
In that vein, I wish to express my country's gratitude to President Thabo Mbeki of South Africa who, on behalf of SADC, successfully facilitated the dialogue between the Ruling Party and the Opposition Parties, which yielded the agreement that has now resulted in the constitutional provisions being finally adopted. Consequently, we will be holding multiple democratic elections in March 2008. Indeed we have always had timeous general and presidential elections since our independence.
Mr. President,
In conclusion, let me stress once more that the strength of the United Nations lies in its universality and impartiality as it implements its mandate to promote peace and security, economic and social development, human rights and international law as outlined in the Charter. Zimbabwe stands ready to play its part in all efforts and programmes aimed at achieving these noble goals.
I thank you.
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Legima Doh

Fellow comrades and peoples of the Southern cameroon,

It is with greetings of peace that I cease this opportunity to announce yet another anniversary of our independence which got brutally attacked.We all are conversant of the fact that it was and shall always be our legitimate right to self determination,sovereignty and complete independence.We have suffered a shipwrecked independence from the hands of the forefathers of la republique,from France,and other colonialists.They did so blatantly by action.They succeeded in assimilating some of ours.Today the vestiges of the colonisation is deeply seated in the psyches of some of ours that they either deny the legitimacy of our struggle, or derail it with wanton,false ideas that are circumscribed by the most macabre of negative thinking, lack of courage, lack of ambition and an insatiable desire in arguing with words.We all of noble thinking , a good lot of us some home and abroad are very on our guard against such ploys.In such an illustrious day like today,we all in one way or the other make reiterations on the plight of our motherland to the occupational forces, to the international bodies and to the international community at large.We make clarion calls on the UN, the UK to right the wrong they committed per the handling of our independence case.They must do it as it stands to be a moral and intellectual responsibility on their part.We also cease this opportunity to thank the UNPO, the ACPHR in Banjul and other countries like Sweden, Netherlands which had voted for complete independence of the Southern cameroon without strings or the clause by joining.It was a sinister act in the first place for another man to decide the future of the other.That was a usurp of personal rights and powers.We have to get our rights and powers restored back to us.
I salut the forerunners of the Southern cameroons the grand Chief Ayamba Ette Ottu,
Dr Nfor Ngala,Pa James Sabum, Pa Emmanuel Fongoh,Prof Carlson, Mbinglo Humphrey,Taku,Dr Yongbang Arnold,Dr Munzu,an the list in inexhaustible and then our fellow comrades Rexon, Ma Mary, Mk the Southerner, the original Paa Ngembus and not the fake one, the wise M Nje, Fritzane Kiki, Shalom,Klemenseu,Akoson,brother Washow, Squinty,Dany Boy,even Fon and the rest of our comrades with benign motives for our motherland.
I also want to castigate our detractors who are impostors.They claim to be teachers but are lacking in ability to learn.They are very malignant in their ideas about us.They wish us all ills.They attack our personalities and preach the course for liberation to be a reductio ad absurdum.

It is sickening to me to go through vewessee had to offer.Granted he may have the ScNc at heart but his conclusions are explosively exaggerated, misguided , misplace and misjudged.First and foremost, all he purported to be what ought to be done are not an inch away from what the scnc under the aegis of Chief Ayamba is doing.Going further the ScnC under Chief Ayamba is doing more than he opined.A well guided opinion would not conclude the way Vewessee did.The scnc does not only come out during the anniversary days.It indicates a lack of follow up of the activities of the scnc while claiming to be an activist of hers.Scnc organises rallies, meetings,sensitization campaigns all over the various counties of the Southern cameroons,she pertitions la republique in various courts within and without Africa, she carries out match pasts on various occasions, hoisting of flags and so on.Most importantly, Chief Ayamba a devout Bahai member gives great importance on prayers for the course.Various occasions of the ScNc are always preceded by either a mass or a prayer session.I am a witness of mass being offered in the catholic church in Mutengene prior to demonstrations and match pasts and hoisting of flags.So what really is the fact Vewesee tried to purport.The Scnc welcomes meaningful dialogues so long as they are for the advancement and betterment of the course for liberation.Such buoyant conclusions and innuendos are very unwelcome.Vewessee should not voice words as if the celebration of the anniversary of the independence of the Southern cameroons is done as a feast for eating ,drinking and getting drunk.It is specially done as i earlier mentioned preceded by prayers, match pasts,hoisting of flags, various placards and mass sensitization unless the process is marred by the occupational regime.So to me, Vewessee has simply expressed lack of indepth knowledge about the activities and modus operandi of the scnc.He had no new knowledge to offer.His misguided conclusion is non and void just like that of rigmaroles of the pseudonym USofAFrica.This is a bone in the flesh.He's got devious intentions about the faithful brethren of the Scnc.USafrica, Legima Doh is not on asylum.He is working to commence a research project of which comrade Rexon who is carrying out some research at the moment is quite abreast with.I told you here that any Southern cameroonian who is on asylum is right to do so especially given the abuse that some of us and they might have suffered from la republique.So I am there waxing strong as well as the ScNc.Nobody knows where you are,what you do except for the fact that you are experienced in idiocy and falsehood.

Hail Scnc.May the peace and grace of God be upon our motherland (sola gracia).

Legima Doh,
scnc

Legima Doh

Fellow comrades and peoples of the Southern cameroon,

It is with greetings of peace that I cease this opportunity to announce yet another anniversary of our independence which got brutally attacked.We all are conversant of the fact that it was and shall always be our legitimate right to self determination,sovereignty and complete independence.We have suffered a shipwrecked independence from the hands of the forefathers of la republique,from France,and other colonialists.They did so blatantly by action.They succeeded in assimilating some of ours.Today the vestiges of the colonisation is deeply seated in the psyches of some of ours that they either deny the legitimacy of our struggle, or derail it with wanton,false ideas that are circumscribed by the most macabre of negative thinking, lack of courage, lack of ambition and an insatiable desire in arguing with words.We all of noble thinking , a good lot of us some home and abroad are very on our guard against such ploys.In such an illustrious day like today,we all in one way or the other make reiterations on the plight of our motherland to the occupational forces, to the international bodies and to the international community at large.We make clarion calls on the UN, the UK to right the wrong they committed per the handling of our independence case.They must do it as it stands to be a moral and intellectual responsibility on their part.We also cease this opportunity to thank the UNPO, the ACPHR in Banjul and other countries like Sweden, Netherlands which had voted for complete independence of the Southern cameroon without strings or the clause by joining.It was a sinister act in the first place for another man to decide the future of the other.That was a usurp of personal rights and powers.We have to get our rights and powers restored back to us.
I salut the forerunners of the Southern cameroons the grand Chief Ayamba Ette Ottu,
Dr Nfor Ngala,Pa James Sabum, Pa Emmanuel Fongoh,Prof Carlson, Mbinglo Humphrey,Taku,Dr Yongbang Arnold,Dr Munzu,an the list in inexhaustible and then our fellow comrades Rexon, Ma Mary, Mk the Southerner, the original Paa Ngembus and not the fake one, the wise M Nje, Fritzane Kiki, Shalom,Klemenseu,Akoson,brother Washow, Squinty,Dany Boy,even Fon and the rest of our comrades with benign motives for our motherland.
I also want to castigate our detractors who are impostors.They claim to be teachers but are lacking in ability to learn.They are very malignant in their ideas about us.They wish us all ills.They attack our personalities and preach the course for liberation to be a reductio ad absurdum.

It is sickening to me to go through vewessee had to offer.Granted he may have the ScNc at heart but his conclusions are explosively exaggerated, misguided , misplace and misjudged.First and foremost, all he purported to be what ought to be done are not an inch away from what the scnc under the aegis of Chief Ayamba is doing.Going further the ScnC under Chief Ayamba is doing more than he opined.A well guided opinion would not conclude the way Vewessee did.The scnc does not only come out during the anniversary days.It indicates a lack of follow up of the activities of the scnc while claiming to be an activist of hers.Scnc organises rallies, meetings,sensitization campaigns all over the various counties of the Southern cameroons,she pertitions la republique in various courts within and without Africa, she carries out match pasts on various occasions, hoisting of flags and so on.Most importantly, Chief Ayamba a devout Bahai member gives great importance on prayers for the course.Various occasions of the ScNc are always preceded by either a mass or a prayer session.I am a witness of mass being offered in the catholic church in Mutengene prior to demonstrations and match pasts and hoisting of flags.So what really is the fact Vewesee tried to purport.The Scnc welcomes meaningful dialogues so long as they are for the advancement and betterment of the course for liberation.Such buoyant conclusions and innuendos are very unwelcome.Vewessee should not voice words as if the celebration of the anniversary of the independence of the Southern cameroons is done as a feast for eating ,drinking and getting drunk.It is specially done as i earlier mentioned preceded by prayers, match pasts,hoisting of flags, various placards and mass sensitization unless the process is marred by the occupational regime.So to me, Vewessee has simply expressed lack of indepth knowledge about the activities and modus operandi of the scnc.He had no new knowledge to offer.His misguided conclusion is non and void just like that of rigmaroles of the pseudonym USofAFrica.This is a bone in the flesh.He's got devious intentions about the faithful brethren of the Scnc.USafrica, Legima Doh is not on asylum.He is working to commence a research project of which comrade Rexon who is carrying out some research at the moment is quite abreast with.I told you here that any Southern cameroonian who is on asylum is right to do so especially given the abuse that some of us and they might have suffered from la republique.So I am there waxing strong as well as the ScNc.Nobody knows where you are,what you do except for the fact that you are experienced in idiocy and falsehood.

Hail Scnc.May the peace and grace of God be upon our motherland (sola gracia).

Legima Doh,
scnc

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