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Monday, 21 April 2008

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Eyengue

I am still to understand what the SDF has become in recent times. These are the people who go to parliament to vote for immunity favouring Biya not to be prosecuted for killing youths and in a couple of days turns around to send a press release calling for a day of mourning for "our youths" who were killed. Who do they think they are deceiving? Only fools won't see this. SDF you will be disgraced by your actions and your betrayals. God bless you all.

Feli

Eyengue,
You still have this habit of distorting facts, can you please tell me when and where the SDF VOTED for "immunity favouring Biya not to be prosecuted for killing youths".
We are sick and tired of this your cheap talk.

rexon

Feli,

Lies telling is very common in politics. However, the whole world knows that the SDF VP of parliament called for Biya to be granted immunity when he leaves power.

Shalom

No one should listen to that corrupt demagogue of Fru Ndi any more. If you can, I advise everybody to go on with their "normal" life and activities; that is if anything can still be normal. If it gets too tough, look for a way out either through the short or long way.
Cameroonians are hungry for change but have no leader. Even the Ben Muna of sad memories cannot take this opportunity to relegate the corrupt SDF vampires to the background. Are his own hands clean. Biya has bought them all over with ill-gotten wealth and debts the Cameroonians will pay till the fourth generation. From the north to the south, East to the west, people are yearning for a leader and there is none. We need a new generation of leaders to challenge this dead living generation.
Please do not listen to any of them!!!

Eyengue

Feli,
Your party favoured the immunity issue put forward by the CPDM, on the a account of making a consensus. They have been in Parliament for a while now, have they ever come out with any reasonable decision based on a consensus with the CPDM? The SDF should stop telling people it's a lion whereas it's a chicken, which helps to validate the CPDM and Biya's grip on power.

camer_indiaspora

i think Fru Ndi needs to step down.For how long has this man been chairman of the SDF?we need real leaders.how can your mps vote to grant Biya immunity and a week later you decide to organize a "day of mourning"?Please stop deceiving cameroonians.

Atangha

Dear All,
We've started again - shying away from issues & hide behind this notion of Fru Ndi having overstay as Chairman of the SDF. I don't know for how long shall we continue to talk about a leader of an association instead of the president of a nation. By the way, which is of significance to the people of Cameroon: the chairmanship of the SDF or the presidency of the Republic of Cameroon?

Besides, change in Cameroon can even come from "shalom" not necessary thru Fru Ndi. So, I don't see why we use the webpage of The Post to "fight for change" in Cameroon. We need to be serious! This change palavar is becoming a joke. Whoever brings change to Cameroon will he highly acclaimed. Mr. Fru Ndi has never claimed that he alone has the prerogatives of bringing change to Cameroon. It can him, you & me or it can be you & me without him - Fru Ndi

That said, Rexon & Eyengue, etc.:
SDF NEVER vouched for Biya's immunity. Whoever said that (as I've said here before) was a figment of the imagination of a reporter of this newspaper. After rereading that article insinuating that the SDF & Hon. Mbah Ndam were in support of immunity & again, listening to him (Hon. Mbah Ndam) over Cameroon Calling, I didn't dissect anything to that effect as it's being propagated by lots folks here. What I understood in the article was that the reporter was trying to impress on Hon. Mbah Ndam that the SDF should show to Biya that he'll not be pursued whenever he's out of power. More so, the same reporter granted an interview with the leader of the SDF Parliamentary, Hon. Banadzem Joseph on this same issue. He categorically rejected those allegations that the SDF was for Biya's immunity.

I think as citizens of good will, we'd strategise on ending Biya's rule on or before 2011. On the contrary, we're focussing on the blame-game which is taking us to no where. This is the type of politics the French left behind - making us to abandone the juicy substance & chase the shadow. When shall we learn to confront our enemy? On the other hand, I've not heard people condemning the other so-called opposition parties: UNDP, UDC & MP. I see people taking delight in condemning the SDF whenever an opportunity comes their way. If we could criticise constructively & even propose, then, we'll be doing good to our beloved party and country.

In sum, our main objective is to exterminate Mr. Biya's rule. We the people can do it. Let's stop scape-goatism & focus. As a way forward, I'll want to hear what shall we do if he precipitates the presidential election in 2009 so as to put an end to this notion of ending his rule in 2011. And what'll happen if members of Elecam are more or less like members of ONEL.

It's possible to end Mr. Biya's NOW, if not, I'll say those distracting us are trojan horses sent by the CPDM. We should remember that as Christian, we believe that Christ is our way to God; the muslims believe that Mohammed is their way to ALLAH. And so, we should tell the CPDM people that they should be ready to follow Biya wherever he'll be going when we must have taken back Cameroon from him. We should make them to understand that though, Biya is their "natural" candidate, he WILL NEVER be the "natural" president of Cameroon.

Cheers,

Atangha


Atangha

Dear All,
We've started again - shying away from issues & hide behind this notion of Fru Ndi having overstay as Chairman of the SDF. I don't know for how long shall we continue to talk about a leader of an association instead of the president of a nation. By the way, which is of significance to the people of Cameroon: the chairmanship of the SDF or the presidency of the Republic of Cameroon?

Besides, change in Cameroon can even come from "shalom" not necessary thru Fru Ndi. So, I don't see why we use the webpage of The Post to "fight for change" in Cameroon. We need to be serious! This change palavar is becoming a joke. Whoever brings change to Cameroon will he highly acclaimed. Mr. Fru Ndi has never claimed that he alone has the prerogatives of bringing change to Cameroon. It can him, you & me or it can be you & me without him - Fru Ndi

That said, Rexon & Eyengue:
SDF NEVER vouched for Biya's immunity. Whoever said that (as I've said here before) was a figment of the imagination of a reporter of this newspaper. After rereading that article insinuating that the SDF & Hon. Mbah Ndam were in support of immunity & again, listening to him (Hon. Mbah Ndam) over Cameroon Calling, I didn't dissect anything to that effect as it's being propagated by lots folks here. What I understood in the article was that the reporter was trying to impress on Hon. Mbah Ndam that the SDF should show to Biya that he'll not be pursued whenever he's out of power. More so, the same reporter granted an interview with the leader of the SDF Parliamentary, Hon. Banadzem Joseph on this same issue. He categorically rejected those allegations that the SDF was for Biya's immunity.

I think as citizens of good will, we'd strategise on ending Biya's rule on or before 2011. On the contrary, we're focussing on the blame-game which is taking us to no where. This is the type of politics the French left behind - making us to abandone the juicy substance & chase the shadow. When shall we learn to confront our enemy? On the other hand, I've not heard people condemning the other so-called opposition parties: UNDP, UDC & MP. I see people taking delight in condemning the SDF whenever an opportunity comes their way. If we could criticise constructively & even propose, then, we'll be doing good to our beloved party and country.

In sum, our main objective is to exterminate Mr. Biya's rule. We the people can do it. Let's stop scape-goatism & focus. As a way forward, I'll want to hear what shall we do if he precipitates the presidential election in 2009 so as to put an end to this notion of ending his rule in 2011. And what'll happen if members of Elecam are more or less like members of ONEL.

It's possible to end Mr. Biya's NOW, if not, I'll say those distracting us are trojan horses sent by the CPDM. We should remember that as Christians, we believe that Christ is our way to God; the muslims believe that Mohammed is their way to ALLAH. And so, we should tell the CPDM people that they should be ready to follow Biya wherever he'll be going when we must have taken back Cameroon from him. We should make them to understand that though, Biya is their "natural" candidate, he WILL NEVER be the "natural" president of Cameroon.

Cheers,

Atangha


simplice

Mr Atangha; that piece was wonderfully thought.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

A couple of SDFers have denounced the the article on the Post claiming that the SDF backed Biya's immunity. Most of them say that this is not the case. So, are you guys saying that The Post is lying? are you accusing The Post of falsehood in journalism? if so, can you please provide your evidence. This is a very matter because a lot of people depend on The Post for accurate news information. If The Post fabricated that story, then their reliability and credibility will be questioned and this could hurt your viewership. SDFers, get back to us on this one.

Feli

This is extremely absurd, because saying that the SDF voted for Biya's immunity is fraud and deception in broad daylight and any one propagating this falsehood is company to dishonesty which apparently has become part of the culture here.
This is an excerpt of an interview to Effort Camerounais which the Chairman of the SDF accorded last week
".....Is there no clause in the Constitution itself that prohibits such an act?
NJFN:The National Constitution used Article 6, II to effect change in the country and it is this Article that the CPDM is trying to change. This is not all they are trying to do. They are also changing another article so that when they leave power tomorrow they cannot be tried for whatever they have done or have failed to do. This means that if Mr Biya has shown his hatred for the people of the North West Province for example, he can now decide to exterminate all of us and nobody shall be able to hold it against him anytime in the future. Because of this and other such things, SDF parliamentarians blocked the bill from being tabled while bringing up the recent arrest of one of their parliamentarians who was even handcuffed despite his parliamentary immunity before being taken to gendarmerie. This and many such issues are what should be debated in parliament instead of asking questions of ministers who have been given the answers before hand...."
http://www.leffortcamerounais.com/2008/04/reviewing-the-c.html#more

Eyengue

Feli,
You come to post this up, is Mr. Fru Ndi present in parliament? Spare us this. We are use to all this manipulations, by the SDF and her supporters who take every thing Mr. Fru Ndi says as the gospel truth.

Mr. Atangha,
When the post publishes Mr. Fru Ndi stealing shows at funerals you'll be the first to commend them on their good job, but when they inform us about proceedings which do not favour the SDF, the journalist abilities are questioned. It's common with the SDF, so it doesn't come as a surprise to me and many others. On the otherhand, i have made my own interpretation of the journalists' report and of the interview Hon. Mbah Ndam granted the CPDM information machine (CRTV), you need not come with any further interpretations. Some of you guys of the SDF think you monopolise information and try to force your thoughts and interpretations on others. Let us be our judges and make our interpretations for ourselves.

Donbon

I support this call. We should should all start wearing black till 2011 when Biya will be kicked from Etoudi. Every little action matters. We should have more episodes of civil disobeddience. Hoorah to you Papa Fru Ndi. I wish we had more Cameroonians like you. I was one of those who doubted your steadfastness to the cause, but you have proven to me that you mean business. We have a job to do to inspire the Cameroonian masses to do the things they have to do in their own self interest.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

Nobody in Cameroon took this "national day of mourning" declaration by Fru Ndi serious. People went about their daily activities displaying an array of bright color clothes. What does this tells us? it tells us that this crinkled, outmoded, outdated, ancient, dilapidated, wrinkled, and archaic dinosaur called Fru Ndi has lost his touch thus he needs to step down.

Either the SDF changes its course or vanish into oblivion.

Shalom

Where is Ben Muna in all of this? We need a new leader.

felix

The Revolution will spare no corrupt politicians (corrupt politicians independent of their party) and their accomplices. There is no need wrangling about CPDM, SDF or any other ant parties. They have all failed Cameroonians, together with some overzealous corrupt Cameroonians.
At this point Cameroonians must be ready to scarify more lives, and most be ready to brace all the odds that are coming our way.
Its not going to be a game of the survival of the strong or the weak, the informed or the uninformed. It is a war against the corrupt Cameroonians who have enslaved the country for so long.
The time has come, the time is now. Careful planning is need but Remember, Any plan, no matter how poorly conceived, if boldly executed, is better than inaction.(us military manual)

UnitedstatesofAfrica

Felix,

I opt to differ with you. I am not an SDF advocate but I think there's a clearly defined boundary between a corrupt politician and a failed politician. All politicians, be it Mandela or Kenyetta, have experienced both failure and success at some point in their career. A successful politician today was a failed politician yesterday and a failed politician today was a successful politician yesterday. Failure is not synonymous with corruption. Revise your diction my friend

simplice

"The Revolution will spare no corrupt politicians " by Felix

Before a revolution is conceived, new political, economic and social orders are deviced in remplacement of existing orders, once the venture proves promising. Could Mr Felix outline such preconceive orders.

simplice

"The Revolution will spare no corrupt politicians " by Felix

Before a revolution is conceived, new political, economic and social orders are deviced in remplacement of existing orders, once the venture proves promising. Could Mr Felix outline such preconceived orders.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

Simplice, the simpleton, I have noticed how you always shiver when you hear the word "revolution". You shiver so intensely, it makes my computer screen vibrate. I don't advocate violence but the word "revolution" shouldn't be erased from our diction and swept away in a trash bag. We are running out of options and revolution MIGHT be the only solution. The reason why you fear it so much, I can only speculate. Your Daddy's investments back home might have something to do with it.


SDFers

When a file becomes blunt, it needs to be discarded for a new one. Fru Ndi JUST HAS TO GO, it's as simple as that. He can't meet up with the changing times, he can't invent new strategies and you definitely can't teach an old dog new tricks. It seems like Fru Ndi hasn't learned the old adage that, it is better to leave the stage when the crowd is still applauding.

simplice

Mr USAfrica; I have noticed you write just to provoke forumites. The next time I get such a juvenile immaterial comment from you on my person, I won't give it any heed.

coolio

By getting rid of the comments related to the death of Nsahlai, 'The Post' is engaging in a very Cameroonian self-delusion. The sort of self-delusion exhibited by Paul Biya, who believes Cameroonians are so desperate for his rule to continue that he needs to make himself President-for-life. 'The Post' usually takes great delight in criticising the Biya regime, but it has more in common with Biya's view of the world than it imagines. A view of the world based on getting rid of views you do not particularly like by censoring them, if necessary violently. If 'The Post' does not want unpleasant things said about Nsahlai, then don't publish the man's death with the option of your readership commenting on the event. 'The Post' probably expected its readers to post only hypocritical nice comments about the man. Well surprise, surprise, a lot of the 'The Post'readers, did not have nice things to say about the man; and what does 'The Post', that bastion of objective English Cameroon journalism, do? It deletes all the comments!

'The Post' has certainly learnt well from the tricks of the Biya regime, while pretending to its readers to be on some sort of moral higher ground than the said regime. Well, editors of 'The Post', your deletion of the comments does not sanitise Nsahlai's reputation. He was an unprincipled man who was in bed with a murderous dictatorship, kept in power by drinking the blood of his citizens and making their lives hell. I am sure the bugs 6 feet under have the good taste not to feed on his carcass. If indeed there was a hell he deserves to burn in it. Now go ahead and delete these comments. Bloody hypocrites! Your publication is a disgrace to journalism.

Jacob

Fru ndi is a BIG coward, He needs to step down and let somebody younger with fresh brains and new ideas to be the chairman of S.D.F and make a new strategy to handle these CPDM thieves. Fru Ndi is worn out, old with stagnant ideas. They have been playing the same game over and over to no avail, by just walking out of parliament. The CPDM thieves folks!! knwo his only game plan and nothing has ever been achieved from this. So what can scare them when they know your only reaction. We need someone tougher than that old folk called fru ndi. He is now useless to SDF as opposition. He has decided to cling to power also. If he thinks of the plight of cameroonians he would have resign or call for election on new leadership for SDF to continue the fight on behalf of the weak, the people of cameroon. He is greedy as paul biya himself. Shame on you Fru ndi, you are of no good. A good and vibrant oppositon party needs change of leadership when one leader cannot achieve anything as yourself for a long time. I am not a CPDM member a committed SDF member frustrated by your stupid politics of the 18th century. You don't seem to think of anything. calling on 'National day of mourning', where is that applied in politics? whats your game plan with that? NOTHING. STUPID OLD FOLK. LIKE BIYA HIMSELF.

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