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Akume

I Need a list of All CPDM members of parliament, government ministers and their direct offsprings. I mean their children, especially those of them outside Cameroon.
I can assure all of your out there none of them will be safe once the proposed constitutional amendment is adopted.
My brother was killed during the recent demonstration, against this whole shit.
I will use all the means at my disposal to avenge my brothers death.
I hold Biya, his ministers and all cpdm parliamentarians, and their children responsible for my brothers blood.

simplice

Mr Akume, may the soul of your deceased brother RIP. May the earth of our ancestors be light on his body. However the tough time you're going through gentleman, the forum endears you to exercise restrain and speak from a collective stand point. If you singularise your move, it will be a purely emotional venture and may results in reactionary rhetorics, intriques and acts ; that may avail Cameroonians as a whole no good.
Rationality forbids us to hold the children of so called CPDM cohorts responsible for the present political atmosphere.We cannot recourse to them as means to liberating the spasms of stress and tension we have so far endured with diplomacy and morality. I think, the blame isn't even Biya's, the blame is on these parliamentarians who accepted 150 000 frs for the destiny of a nation.

BrotherJohnson

Well said Mr. Simplice, but on this issue I support brother Akume 100%. IF those people, all those MPs, do not get killed soon, there would be no change in Cameroon. We need their blood to cleanse the land for all the mess they've created. What you should understand, Mr. Simplice, is that rationality has no place in this our Cameroun situation- the MPs you're pleading for, do not actually care about you or anyone else. Why are you trying to be rational over a bunch of idiots like that? They should all be killed. I don't even believe they walk around with heavy security like the President does- so how come no Cameroonian has ever tried to chop off their heads or slice them open along the streets. I'm kind of surprised.

Muki StoneHall

Brother Johnson,
I'm surprised to hear you say you are surprised. The simple reason is that all Cameroonians fall under two groups: sheep and cowards.Even those who are making noise from outside fall under these two groups.
I have always say it here and will continue to say it. Cameroonians have only two choices:
FIGHT or SHUT UP!

simplice

Those proposing war against the innocent as a solution to a problem should reconsider their strategy. I still maintain, children of parliamentarians are innocent in this matters and shouldn't be held accountable for the offences of their parents/relatives. This is but a cowardice approach. Our parliamentarians are the problem; Biya is not the problem. Those who represent us have failed in their duty of representation. They have the blood of any potential chaos on their hands.

stone

MR BIYA,
YOU CAN'T RUN AWAY FROM THE WRATH THAT IS WAITING FOR YOU AFTER OFFICE. EVEN IF YOU CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION. ITS JUST PAPER WORK. WE WILL FITCH YOU OUT, WHERE EVER YOU ARE AND APPLY JUNGLE LAW. THE EARTH IS VERY SMALL. CAMEROONIANS ARE ALL OVER THE EARTH BECAUSE OF YOU. WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU.

stone

MR BIYA,
YOU ARE ALREADY SCARED. YOU ARE IMAGINING WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU AFTER YOU LEAVE THE PALACE. YOU ARE NOT VERY FAR FROM THE TRUTH. WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU WITH OUR AXES AND HOES. YOU HAVE SHED A LOT OF INNOCENT BLOOD. IT WILL SOON BE JUDGEMENT. YOU CAN'T ESCAPE.

babs

I strongly believe these stupid Mp's should be kidnap and kill one at a time. This will make some of them to run away with no one to attend that hand clapping and stupid parliamentary sessions they are having.

babs

THis is our time and we should not leave the Mp's alone, we have to start killing them .

chopfire

I think am really getting confused here. When somebody brings up a collective idea, he is been asked to think on how to save the situation as an individual. Then when some other tries to take the situation into his hands, he is asked not to singularize it. what is what then? is there any goal behind the comments posted here?
Mr Simplices respect for the innocents and humanity holds under STP, but unfortunately we are not under STP that is why many innocent souls have been lost following the situation at hand. Even from the biblical point of view humanity had to suffer from the sins of Adam and Eve till the coming of Christ, likewise the offspring of Biya and his phylum could be held responsible till the coming of their own Saviour which is democracy. Now Simplice who are more innocent? is it the souls of those killed during the strike actions or the offspring of these morons?Dont you think taking hostage their children could make them reason like normal people? I think the prime target should be the children of speaker of the house. Please Akume if you get there first extend a Mike Tyson one for me.

simplice

Mr Chopfire, I appreciate the wisdom in your last comment.I 'm also sensible of your perspicaty in poiting out contradictory statements typical of me. However, if you'll permit... I'll endeavour to substantiate the logic after which I'm inspired to maintain that......"cutting the stems and branches" of present calamity won't avail us any opportunity for a lasting and diplomatic settlement of these crises.
You cite the bible to flesh your standpoint. That is a good criteria of comparison......though you forget the thoughts and precepts of the "Old Testament" are atypical of those of the "New Testament". To spare forumites herein of the burden of having to rethink your hypothesis much longer, I shall in a sentence expose your own contraction.........."How can you reconcile your reference to Christ in the bible with His teachings and precerpts?.....Isn't this a startling contrast?".
When I mentioned that patriotic citizens should indulge in singualar moves in a bid to lift cameroon from the present political ambiguity, I wasn't refering to hostile propanganda or the use of force. How many people did Mandela ever kill to reach the helm of Power and gain such international acclaimation?. For any political palaver, there's always a gentlemanly and diplomatic way-out.
And when I advocate a "collective conscience" for a "collective action" afterwards, I simply making allusion to the synergic effect; individual actions will lead to. That is, individual action with a collective dream can avail us some promising destiny in the matter.
How often in this forum have people in the likes of Akume, erred these incitations to hatred and remained in the shadows when the battle became hot?.
Statistics on this forum(from 2006 to present date) show that only Wilson has ever backed his words with action. All we have here is empty talk. If it not empty, talk , I challenge those who are advocating voilence to publish the list of sons and daughters of these representatives who have mortgaged our destiny for 150 000 frs. Please let them engage in serious research and make public these names.
Brother Chopfire......time will tell if, such a list can be published and from the nature of the outcome, will you prove me right or wrong. Until then...take care.

BrotherJohnson

Mr. Simplice, dat ya literature too long!! All you say makes sense...with sensible people. Our politicians are not sensible so your theories cannot apply here. We are sensible, so we'll put some sense into their heads.
Fellows, for a long time we've searched for a possible path to follow towards bringing change in that Godforsaken country. Now brother Akume has provided the solution! If anyone can provide a list of all those MPs children, who certainly will be somewhere in the West enjoying while the poor innocents like Akume's brother gets killed back in the country, we'll seek justice, or solace for ourselves.

Brother Muki StoneHall, tyranny na some very funny thing o! Living under constant terror like Cameroonians are, it shouldn't be strange that people are scared shitless! Now, thanks to our collective thinking, we can effect the change from outside the country! While Biya and his band of thieves kill our brothers and sisters back home, we out here should return the favour to their offsprings whom they've shipped out of all the carnage in the country!

mk the southerner

Fru Ndi come back home there is no democracy in any French nation. I think my brothers it is not to throw abuses at each other but I think it is time for us Southern Cameroonians to show the world the difference between English diplomacy and French diplomacy.
We Anglophones or Southern Cameroonians will be the casualties of any strike within La Republique Du Cameroun. And in the real sense we need to bribe or kill and molest our own brothers before a position is given to one of us in the French government. We have our land nothing in international law holds us together. Please let us see better and come together as one people, be you SDF,CPDM,CDU or what let us forget any party differences and restore what our parents enjoyed in the 60s.

chopfire

Mr Simplice thanks for the clarification which was to some extend convincing.However i still think otherwise.You are certainly advocating for a LASTING AND DIPLOMATIC settlement of these current crises and cited Madela to flesh your stand point. Now i got some questions for you, do you think the reasoning and philosophy behind DIPLOMACY could make any sense to Biya and his phylum? How many years did Mandela use to get there?should Cameroonians wait for that long? that was even under the whitemans rule. Do you think Biya could even give a chance for Cameroonian Mandela to exist? However remember Mandela never fought for SA alone,he was supported by factions whose strategies were violently orientated.Finally, should we be thinking of an immediate or a LASTING solution relative to the crises?
I do agree with you that the matter at hand is pregnant thus our approach should be tinted with some wit and dexterity, but it should not be limited to some diplomatic orthodoxy. If you think some of the treats rendered here are some sort of HOT AIR and try to discourage it, then you will be making a moronic blunder because those rascals got their agents here everyday and their children already feel insecure. All we need is a comprehensive machinery. We can start with names of the Parliamentarians,it should be a joint effort.Now anybody who know a name or more should simply post it here for the rest to copy, before long we shall have a list. From there we can do same to a get a list for their children.Their parents name could even be of some assistance.With these two lists posted here we can then think what next if only this webpage would not be blocked permanently.

simplice

Mr Chopfire; ya analysis carry fire, I see say you fit really chop fire for substantiate your standpoint.... parantheses..........
Your dialectical write is convincing gentleman. What I find so insulting is the price a soul; of a conscience; 150 000 frs.

Neba Fuh

The Pandora's Box Has Been Opened (II)

Great leaders like Mahatma Gandhi and Nelson Mandela who fundamentally adopted non-violence as the strategy for their struggle, sometimes contemplated the violent option. When a people's struggle for liberation are stifled by an egoistic manipulative tendency to oppress them even at their lowest, then violent tendencies start cropping in. Violence is an impulsive uncontrollable outburst usually manifested out of frustration.

The bill just adopted by Parliament, to give Biya a laissez-faire joystick to toy around further with the Cameroonian people even after 25years of a failed regime is frustrating. Let the 157 simpletons who voted for that bill amending the constitution to allow Biya to rule till death and be unaccountable for his crimes, not make a toast yet with their champagne glasses. The suffering Cameroonian people whose sores have been spread with salt will not stop at lamenting. They are meticulously weighing the options-violent or non-violent. The latter may just be what the CPDM quislings have pushed the people to.

Below are excerpts culled from 'The Sacred Warrior'-
The liberator of South Africa looks at the seminal work of the liberator of India
By NELSON MANDELA

Gandhi remained committed to nonviolence; I followed the Gandhian strategy for as long as I could, but then there came a point in our struggle when the brute force of the oppressor could no longer be countered through passive resistance alone. We founded Unkhonto we Sizwe and added a military dimension to our struggle. Even then, we chose sabotage because it did not involve the loss of life, and it offered the best hope for future race relations....

...following my address to the Pan-African Freedom Movement of East and Central Africa (PAFMECA) in 1962, in which I stated, "Force is the only language the imperialists can hear, and no country became free without some sort of violence."

Gandhi himself never ruled out violence absolutely and unreservedly. He conceded the necessity of arms in certain situations. He said, "Where choice is set between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence...I prefer to use arms in defense of honor rather than remain the vile witness of dishonor ..."

Violence and nonviolence are not mutually exclusive; it is the predominance of the one or the other that labels a struggle...

CHECK OUT www.nebafuh.com for more.

Ekone'kupe

The only option left for Cameroonians is assasinations. Biya, his ministers, the parliamentarians. The is no other way to bring change to Cameroon. Those guys frequent western countries where guns and hitmen abound. What we need to do now is to stop our endless talking and writing and do something impactful. Biya may not go out much, but he knows Cameroonians will talk, shout, growl, but in the end do nothing. We need to change our attitude. If one man can conquer 18 million people then one begins to ask questions about the courage, bravery, and wisdom of the 18 million who allowed themselves to be conquered. I do not want to be counted amongst such people. It is shameful.

simplice

Ladies and gentlemen of the core. If all this fume of verbal venom could be translated into some pragmatic agenda, how great would its consequence reverse the political tide?. However, statistics, experience and meticulous observation(constintuents of a fact) show that, such talk on this forum is everything but COLD AIR.
All SDFers are scaring, hidding theirs faces and mustering no courage to come forth and backed what they have hitherto; proclaimed their political destiny.
Keep your comments flowing.

Fon

Simplice,
This fight is nolonger one for the SDF; it is a fight for all Cameroonians. Cameroonians are in danger and must fight back.
I have often said here that nobody is born a terrorist. Circumstances push people to become terrorist. Terrorism is a method that is used by the weak to fight the strong. If someone is physically stronger than you and does not want you to exist, since you can´t face him directly, the only option is to resort to terrorism.
The case in Camerron at the moment fits well. Biya and cohort have all the arms; Cameroonians can´t face this wicked regime directly and succeed. The only option is to resort to terrorism. Cameroonians should organise terrorist groups and target all CPDM parliamentarians and their families. They should start by kinapping their children especialy those in schools until these parliamentarians resign. Where it is possible kill these parliamentarians.
Biya had long declared war on Cameroonians, it is time for us to take up the fight. The best appraoch for us as I have said is terrorism.
I am angry

Danny Boy

Dear Brothers and Sisters,
so a small section of our constitution is being amended, so what? In your heart of hearts, who cares if Biya remains there for another 25 years, so long as our economy is booming? Talk of acts of terrorism, kidnap and murder of incumbent Members of Parliament will not cure us of the ills we are suffering. These will be unforgiveable crimes and a template for future retributions-a precedent of sorts.
However angry, let us take stock and rationally evaluate our situation. Biya is an old decrepit. He might not live until 2011 or for many more years after that. Therefore, our fight is and should be against the CPDM. What is happening is indeed good news. Those who voted for this party at the last elections now know they have been short-changed(used!). Unless these people are morons or masochists, I do not see them making the same mistakes come 2011!
People, rather than stain our hands with the blood of our own, we should start our campaign right now. The CPDM can be defeated in 2011. The case of Zimbabwe should give us hope, however limited.
Please note, the constitution can be amended several times, but the loss of lives cannot be ..!
Blessed be our beloved country.

simplice

Danny Boy, that was well thought of you.

stone

OH CAMEROON, OH CAMEROON!!!!!!!
Where are we going to. Are we going to sit down and allow this peole to manipulate us. When are we going to stand for what belongs to us. Oh ohhhhhhhhh. No roads in the country. Poor educational system, tribalism and nepotism. There is mass exodus from cameroon.
Both youths and old are living home because they are no jobs for them. They have no god father. Graduates from the state universities are riding motor cycles just to survive. The girls who are also graduates from universities are under the sun , managinG their call box. Teachers are not paid.
Fellow cameroonians. Let us stand together. We will not allow Biya to remain in power. Brother Johnson, Akume, Chopfire and Babs, you all are right. What has been done to those who killed the inocent souls on the Bonaberi bridge. All the CPDM MP'S DESERVE DEATH.
We will not allow Biya to Stand again in 2011. IT WILL NEVER BE POSSIBLE.
BIYA will never escape from his judgement which is awaiting him.

chopfire

Its clear most Cameroonians in this forum have realized violence to those whose deserve it is necessary as an immediate solution to this matter.Mr Akume,Fon,NebaFuh,EkoneKupe,stone babs and the rest, the time to act is now, some of you guys were requesting a list of parliamentarians to start on, and i proposed a strategy to come out with this list. Bellow is the partial list which need to be updated.
1- Hon. M. Fossi Jacob
2- Hon. Mme Abunaw Rose Agbor
3- Hon. M. Sale Charles
4- Hon. M. Kwemo Pierre
5- Hon. M. Baoro Théophile
6- Hon. Zam Jean Jacques
Secretaries :
1- Hon. Fon Doh Gah Gwayin III
2- Hon. M. Sende Pierre
3- Hon. Mme Manamourou Isabelle ép. Silikam
4- Hon. M. Abdoulaye Bougue
5- Hon. M. Ava Ava Emmanuel
6- Hon. Mme Din Bell Armande
7- Hon. M. Foinding Calvin
8- Hon. M. Awudu Mbaya Cyprien
9- Hon. Mme Ndo née Engolo Evina
10- Hon. M. Essomba Tsoungui Elie Victor
11- Hon. Mme Mebande Brigitte
12- Hon. M. Hammatoukour Bobbo
Parliamentary Administrators :
1- Hon. M. Kamssouloum Abba Kabir
2- Hon. M. Patehale Jean Claude
3- Hon. M. Yoyo Mohmbankah Emmanuel
4- Hon. M. Bile Bidjang Martin
CPDM parliamentary group
President : Hon. M. Ndongo Essomba Jean-Bernard
Vice President : Hon. Mme Foning Françoise
Secretary : Hon. M. Ateawung Foju Bernard

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chopfire

And bellow is the list of the CPDM central Bureau, they too are not free as well.
1. MOHAMADOU Aladji
2. SAMAKI Joseph
3. BAKODJI Bouba
4. YENGA Pauline AISSATOU
5. HAMADJODA ADJOUDJI
6. NGATTI Paul
7. NONGA SONGO
8. HAMADOU Paul
9. MOHAMADOU ABBO
10. SADOU DAOUDOU
11. BAGDAMA Amati
12. OMGBA Paul
13. NDONGO ESSOMBA
14. TSANGA ABANDA
15. NYASSA Louis Marie
16. ONOBIONO James
17. NDEMBIYEMBE Paule Célestin
18. ABOGO NKONO Louis Marie
19. FOUDA Marie Madeleine
20. EMAH Basile
21. AMYE Gérard
22. ZANG NGUELE Rose
23. AMOUGOU NOMA Nicolas
24. ATANGANA Ignace
25. TSOUGUI Simon Pierre
26. NTSAMA Etienne
27. MELINGUI Roger
28. NAAH ONDOUA Sylvestre
29. KELBE Nicolas
30. NYOBE MANGOG Philippe
31. OYONO EDOU Martin
32. ESSOMBA René
33. OWONA Grégoire
34. AMIENI Laurentine
35. MPITO BIENDE
36. MOMPEA MBIO Edmond
37. ZE NGUELE René
38. BOKAM Jean Baptiste
39. ZE BEMBE
40. BONDE Emmanuel
41. ADJIBOLO Philémon
42. DOUMBA Joseph Charles
43. BELLO MBELE
44. EMAMA Marius
45. BACHIROU YOUSSOUF
46. BOUBA DANKY
47. SALI DAIROU
48. ISSA BALARABE
49. SAMANTANA Marc
50. ALI MAHAMAT
51. KAMSOULOUM ABA KABIR
52. HIRGUE HIRI HIRI
53. DJAFNA Robert
54. AYANG Luc
55. AMADOU VAMOULKE
56. FATOUING HOULIBELE
57. BOULOUN GUIZI Joseph
58. ZAKIATOU DJAMO
59. CAVAYE YEGUIE DJIBRIL
60. FETEKOUE MADE
61. HOCHE MOZOGO
62. MATASSAI Louis Marie
63. DEGODEM Ruth
64. GONONGDO Jean
65. MBELLA MBAPPE Robert
66. NGOLLE Jean Jacques
67. EKOUM Emilienne
68. TCHAMDA Frieda
69. KINGUE Simon
70. BOOH BOOH Jacques
71. YINDA Louis
72. TJOUES Géneviève
73. BANLOG Polycarpe
74. KONDO Samuel
75. TANKO AMADOU
76. FONING Françoise
77. TOBBO EYOUM
78. GARGA AOUDOU
79. SADOU HAYATOU
80. MAIDADI SADOU
81. MARAFA HAMIDOU
82. YAOU AISSATOU
83. YAYA GARGA BALLA
84. GAMBO HAMAN
85. MOUSSA BELLO MALIKI
86. ABOUBAKARI ABDOULAYE
87. NAMIO Pierre
88. AROUNA NYAKO
89. OUMAROU Denis
90. KIKJA AMADOU
91. BABA AHMADOU
92. NKWAIN Francis
93. LANTUM Daniel
94. NGALLA ABEL TANONG
95. TAMFU Samuel
96. IHIMS Jacob Anie
97. ANGWAFOR III
98. ACHIDI ACHU Simon
99. NEBA BUMBI II
100. FON GANYONGA III
101. FON GANYONGA III
102. ATOGHO ENYIH
103. ADON CHO Joseph
104. NYO Samuel KAYIYI
105. NYOH Solom NGA
106. NGWANYEM III
107. FOFE Joseph
108. KAMDEM Didier
109. NZEFA TSACHOUA Pierre
110. FOTSO Victor
111. NGNIE KAMGA 112. SOHAING André
113. NKUETE Jean
114. TAWAMBA Marthe
115. TCHUENTE Madeleine
116. KOUAMO Jonas
117. NIAT NJIFENJI Marcel
118. MBOMBO NJOYA Ibrahim
119. VACALOPOULOS
120. ENGAMBA NSILI Constantin
121. AYOLO Suzanne
122. AKAME MFOUMOU Edouard
123. MBONO SAMBA Madeleine
124. ESSAME ESSAME François
125. ENO BELINGA Samuel Martin
126. ENGO Pierre désiré
127. ENAM MBA'A Samuel
128. MEDJO Delphine
129. FAME NDONGO Jacques
130. MALONGA Elisé
131. OWONA Joseph
132. NGUIAMBA NLOUTSIRI Emmanuel
133. MENYE Samuel
134. MVE ELEMBA Emmanuel
135. ONDO NDONG Emmanuel Gérard
136. BURNLEY GWENDOLYNE
137. INONI Ephraim
138. Peter MUSONGE MAFANY
139. EBONG NGOLLE John
140. BASNA HANUA
141. FON FONTEM NJIFUA
142. MBELEM Wilfred
143. Chef TABE TANDO NDIPSI Goerge
144. EFFIOM Willie NDEP
145. AGBOR TABI Peter
146. MUKETE Victor
147. NAMATA EWANGA
148. DION NGUETE Joseph
149. IMBIA Sylvester ITOE
150. ANKI AFFIONG Rebecca
151. ADAM HAOUA Madeleine
152. Zacharie NGNIMAN
153. El Hadj NANA BOUBA
154. YAYA KALTOUM KATCHE
155. BABA AMADOU
156. ZANGA Antoine
157. EYEFA Salomé
158. NTSIMI Antoine
159. ONANA ABBE
160. SADI René
161. NDIORO Justin
162. AKANANG WOSANY
163. ETOUDI Charles
164. MBALLA BOUNOUNG Gabriel
165. OBOUH FEGHE Clément
166. BANDOLO Henri
167. BOMBA NKOLO Cécile
168. MBEDE Joseph
169. TONYE BATCHOM
170. BIWOLE Gilbert
171. NNANG François
172. MBENG BIKONO Gallus
173. ATANGANA Hélène
174. IPANDO Jean Jacques
175. TSITSOL Philippe
176. MONGUI Janvier
177. APOUMA Emilienne
178. ZAORO ADAMOU
179. SALE née BANDOLO
180. DJAKAOU
181. BOUBA BELLE GONI
182. EMMAH ABDOUL KARIM
183. ADOUM GARGOUM
184. MAHAMAT BAHAR MAROUF
185. RODO Marcel
186. SILIKAM
187. TIKELA KEMONE
188. TALBA Ibrahim
189. HAMADOU OUSMANOU
190. PEREVET Zacharie
191. NGOLO NGAMA Emmanuel
192. MONEKOSSO LOBE
193. EING Bernard
194. NTAMACK Paulette
195. MBOUI Joseph
196. POKOSSY NDOUMBE
197. EKOTTO Alvine
198. EBOUMBOU Patience
199. FADIL BAYERO
200. SOUAIBOU SIDIKI
201. HAMAN ADAMA
202. DOUDA ALHADJI HALIDOU
203. ALIM AMADOU
204. MALLOUM Pierre
205. MOHAMADOU MADASSOU
206. JEHNKOMA Paulette
207. SAMA Margareth
208. FONKAM AZU'U Samuel
209. NGEWA OMER
210. KONTCHOU Augustin KOUOMEGNI
211. TCHANQUE Pierre
212. MILA ASSOUTE Pierre
213. TANKEU Elisabeth
214. NJI KOUOTOUO
215. BEH MENGUE Jean Louis
216. ZANG OYONO Calvin
217. NDJEMBA ENDEZOUMOU Jean Simplice
218. EFOUA MBOSO'O Samuel
219. AMOUGOU Bernard
220. MINKO Samuel
221. NJEUMA Dorothy*
222. MVENG BIKONO Gallus

UnitedstatesofAfrica

I am back from my forced hiatus. For some reason, the Post has been preventing me from posting comments. I am only able to post a comment now because I have created a new account under a new e-mail address. The reason for my censorship, I know not. My crime, expressing myself on this forum. I have been stupid enough to actually think that this was a forum in which freedom of speech is tolerated. I see that some people like Simplice and Dannyboy are still free to say what they want to say. The reason for the selective censorship, I know not once again


The Post, you ought to be ashamed. You criticise the Biya regime and yet you follow his footsteps. When Biya censors the Cameroon media, there's an outcry yet you amateur journalists sit comfortably
behind your WINDOWS 1941 and censor patriotic Cameroonians from speaking their minds. Enjoy your bribe and I hope it brings you guys prosperity and happiness.

chopfire

And yet another list of supplementary members of the bureau, should they be left out?
1. ABOU MAIMOUNA
2. GALDIMA Lawal BAKARY
3. YAYA MOHAMAN GABDO
4. BOUBA NDENGUE
5. LARBA Esther
6. ABDOULAYE BA
7. OLANGUENA AWONO
8. ANONG ABIKIME Pascal
9. OKOUDA Martin Aristide
10. ALHADJI DANLADI
11. NOAH Chrysogone
12. NTONE Augustine
13. ABDOULAYE BABALE
14. SOLLO William
15. BALEPA Elisabeth
16. BAYEMI Maurice
17. BIDJA Rachel
18. SOMBAYE Roger
19. ALEOKOL Jean-Marie
20. NDOUGO ABOL Antoine
21. NGBA Zacharie
22. ADJI ABDOULAYE
23. GARGA BOBORE
24. MALIKI ENOCH
25. HERWAMA
26. HAMADOU EVELE
27. LAIBE Francis
28. OUMAROU Maïgari
29. BASKOUDA Jean Baptiste
30. BOUKAR LAMINE
31. HEDIDENG OUMAROU
32. ABDOULAYE MARAVA
33. NJOH MOUELE Ebenézer
34. TINJECKE
35. YEBA MBAYEN Marcel
36. ETOUNDI Lucie
37. WINJA MONADAYAO
38. EKOKA Charlotte
39. NGANDO MPONDO Théophile 40. NDZOGANG Albert
41. MINJA ADA TEKE
42. DJODA ALHADJI Denis
43. SINGAI KANGOU
44. SHEY Issac LUKONG
45. TATA John MFORME
46. SHEY John YEMBE
47. MUA Josepha
48. NIBA John YEMBE
49. OYONO Dieudonné
50. DZOGNOU Marie Alice
51. SIYAM SIEWE
52. MBIAPO Félécité
53. FOGUI Jean Pierre
54. TESSA Paul
55. SOB Jacques Richard
56. DSAMOU Micheline
57. MOUICHE Moïse
58. ALAM Emmanuel
59. ELLE ZOUAM Félix
60. ABENKOU Paulette
61. OYONO MFENDA Alexandre
62. MBARGA MVONDO Jean
63. BISSECK Paulette
64. MEDOUANE Paul Emile
65. MBOUH MENGUE Louise
66. MBIAM Emmanuel
67. MFONO Marie Claire
68. BESEKA Christine
69. ENDELEY Gladys
70. NFOMENKY
71. BELIBI Joseph
72. EBOBO Théodore
73. ONANA Isidore
74. TIDJANI HALIFA
75. BAPES BAPES Louis
76. BASSONG Luc
77. ONDOUA MENYE
78. NTYAM NTYAM Philémon

rexon

Danny Boy,

Have you forgotten that quite recently, you declared war on the people of the Southern Cameroons if the SCNC achieve its independence through peaceful means? I have always said here that the hypocrisy of those who pretend to be SDF militants would be exposed over time. You came here and boasted that you are very prepared for war in case the SCNC achieve our independence through "peaceful means" but shamefully, in your bid to maintain Biya in power, you are here to caution Cameroonians not to resort to war in their bid to teach this regime a lesson. I have always said here that most of you guys are treacherous alarmists and political opportunists. You have placed your friends closer to the dictator and all you care about is your own share of the cake. Nothing hides forever. In your bid to silence the SCNC and continue your thievery of the Southern Cameroonian resources for the benefit of France and La Republique, you guys always hide behind the SDF preaching your soo called "one Cameroon" politics. I have always told you guys, when you sit in your hotel suits, mansions and castles in London, Paris, Edinburgh to design strategies of how to destroy the wider interests of the Southern Cameroonian people through your SDF, you should know that there are people like myself who will always know what was discussed in those meetings. Did you see Feli and Atangha at the postnewsline after the last charades called elections on our land? I knew they will come like you guys to preach their mundane theory of peace. We know who are the enemies of the Southern Cameroons. In as much as we will always want to help and promote democracy in La Republique. get it clear that we will never sell our concience for peanuts from La Republique through your SDF.

Thanks.

chopfire

"so a small section of our constitution is being amended, so what?"I would be polite enough to declare this as a repugnant statement from Mr Dannyboy if he is in any way trying to render some members of this forum objects of mockery, satire or castigation.If you were rational enough you shouldn't have been attracted by the size of what is being amended but the implications it has to the well being of your fellow brothers.The extravagant impudence in your statements tell you might have been lucky enough to excel in the inferno these rascals have led us into,the reason may be you claim"as long as our economy is booming"
If you have your fellow brothers and sisters as you called them at heart, then i think you give it a second thought and oxidize your definition of economy boom.
You even made things worse by counting on Biyas life span as a possibility and trying to differentiate between Biya and the CPDM.They are the same my bro and if you are thinking of beating them in an election,then i recommend you contact Dr Phil, he can give you more lessons on hallucinations and mirages.
Finally you took things from fryingpan-to-fire by citing the situation in Zimbabwe.On the contrary its the existence of political lepers in the likes of Mogabe and the tantalizing situation in Zimbabwe that gave Biya the impetus to carry on with his malicious intentions.
Please those who think of diplomatic answers should also come up with convincing ideas rather than just being a stearic hindrance to the ironic bond that is trying to be established among those for domo.

simplice

This matter is becoming serious.
USAfrica, I had missed your comments and begun wondering if u had embraced destiny. Thanks you're alive and have witness this Cameroonian page of history.
Mr Chopfire;in as much as our ideas don't intersect on the issue at hand, I must confess you're a pragmatist.

Altruist

Mr Fon, If spilling blood is wrong, then why don't you go and tell the oppressor not to spill innocent blood?
Your Gospel has no effect at the moment. Most of us are in the west benefiting from freedom that normal human being like us fought and died for. Why shouldn't I fight now, slaughter the enemy so as to prepare tomorrow's freedom to the innocent kids that are currently dying in the Southern Cameroons? Mr Fon, I am looking for the maximum means to afflict the maximum deaths to the vicious murderous enemy. If we must one day dream for our freedom then we must learn to slaughter the throat of the enemy. This is the only language the vicious killers understand. The Noble people of Southern Cameroons had been practicing that gospel you tried to write for the past time I can remember but all they got in return was and is DEATH. so who will continue to put down his throat to be slaughtered by a lame vicious enemy? Brother Akume up there is in an unimaginable pains right now. I try to put myself in his position and I couldn't withstand the nightmares. His late Brother is the BRAVE HERO and you Mr Fon is the disgraced COWARD. The purpose to which the BRAVE BROTHER of Akume died for must be accomplish. At the end, we will build Monuments to all the fallen heros. How many of Akume's Brother will be killed before we standup and exterminate this lame but vicious murderous killer enemy? How many Mr Fon? How many of suchs as Akume's brother have been killed by this monstrous killer called BIYA?
I don't have any grivance towards my La Republic Brothers. I sympathize with them at this time of crisis and I tell them that the Terror Regime which is also killing the citizens of La Republic du Cameroun had been occupying my country THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS. I look forward that The Independent Sovereign Southern Cameroons State will live peacefully with La Republic Du Cameroun as one of her neighboring states.
I here declare that I will slaughter the enemy till I liberate My Country THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS. I will sacrifice my own blood until full liberation is attained.
Greetings to all My Honorable Southern Cameroons Leaders. Those home and in exile. My humble respect!

Fon

Altruist,
Are addressing Dannyboy and Simplice or you are addressing me. You must be confused. Go back and read what wrote.

Altruist

My aplologise to MR FON. I misunderstood the labelling of the post. I am answering to this moron DANNYBOY. I now reslise the labeling above each post is for the previous commentator not the comment directly under. On most websites, the commentator is identified above not below. Beside, I am now to thos postnewsline. Again my apologize to you MR FON and I will correct the post and direct it to the disgraced COWARD DANNYBOY.

Altruist

Mr Dannyboy, If spilling blood is wrong, then why don't you go and tell the oppressor not to spill innocent blood?
Your Gospel has no effect at the moment. Most of us are in the west benefiting from freedom that normal human being like us fought and died for. Why shouldn't I fight now, slaughter the enemy so as to prepare tomorrow's freedom to the innocent kids that are currently dying in the Southern Cameroons? Mr Dannyboy, I am looking for the maximum means to afflict the maximum deaths to the vicious murderous enemy. If we must one day dream for our freedom then we must learn to slaughter the throat of the enemy. This is the only language the vicious killers understand. The Noble people of Southern Cameroons had been practicing that gospel you tried to write for the past time I can remember but all they got in return was and is DEATH. so who will continue to put down his throat to be slaughtered by a lame vicious enemy? Brother Akume up there is in an unimaginable pains right now. I try to put myself in his position and I couldn't withstand the nightmares. His late Brother is the BRAVE HERO and you Mr Dannyboy is the disgraced COWARD. The purpose to which the BRAVE BROTHER of Akume died for must be accomplished. At the end, we will build Monuments to all the fallen heros. How many of Akume's Brother will be killed before we standup and exterminate this lame but vicious murderous killer enemy? How many Mr Dannyboy? How many of suchs as Akume's brother have been killed by this monstrous killer called BIYA?
I don't have any grivance towards my La Republic Brothers. I sympathize with them at this time of crisis and I tell them that the Terror Regime which is also killing the citizens of La Republic du Cameroun had been occupying my country THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS. I look forward that The Independent Sovereign Southern Cameroons State will live peacefully with La Republic Du Cameroun as one of her neighboring states.
I here declare that I will slaughter the enemy till I liberate My Country THE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS. I will sacrifice my own blood until full liberation is attained.
Greetings to all My Honorable Southern Cameroons Leaders. Those home and in exile. My humble respect!

Danny Boy

Mr. Chopfire,
I am afraid you missed the point of my argument here. How do you justify the slaying of the sons and daughters of politicians as favoured by certain contributors to this forum? In the name of revenge? Or because their parents(MPs)adopted a bill to amend part of our constitution? Which is more repugnant, the intent to commit these murders or my statements to the contrary?
In no way do I underestimate the anger Cameroonians at home and abroad feel. I respect the sense of your anger but we must be careful not to let our anger create more problems than we have on our plate already. In the event of a civil war today, those who will die are those who are already disadvantaged, not the Rexons, Ma Marys and all other keyboard freedom fighters, but the dispossessed, socially, economically and politically excluded Cameroonians. I call them SCNC's "canon fodder".
Mr. Chopfire, will you be leading the fight or hiding behind these poor souls drunk on your barbaric notions of conflict resolution?
Oh spare me the Chemistry please-stearic, bonds etc!
Blessed be our beloved country.

chopfire

Thanks Rexon for exposing the hypocritic antics of this Dannyboy guy.I thus withdraw any sign of being polite to him in my last comment and declare him a "witchman". Not long from now people of his likes are going to be debunked and castigated.Mr Simplice is more erudite in his comments and should not be classify in the same phylum as Dannyboy.Phylum loss-sensia.But Mr Simplice note that as you are expecting development from this angle we are also interested in developments from the diplomatic crew.
Now we got a tentative list of those to be dealt with, its obvious most guys here are in the west and have little access to heads of these rascals.Those abroad need to mobilize those back home both financially
and skillfully on how to go about this, and target their children in the west.
Accommodation could be given to the services of internationally trained political assassins.
Please, if anybody has link on how to contact this guys make it known here as soon as possible. We need some action.

Danny Boy

Mr. Altruist,
you are a parodox, you do not deserve a response.

Altruist

Incase Mr DANNYBOY don't understand. The "keyboard stroke warriors" are fighting a very important war. There's a word called MOBILIZING. Furthermore, I would like to inform you Mr DANNYBOY that if not of these "keyboard stroke warriors", I wouldn't have understood much of my Country (The Southern Cameroons) history. To all the warriors out there I encourage everyone to continue the good fight. Don't let DANNYBOY the troll to discourage you. To all my country ( The Southern Cameroons) leaders, I am ready to take the frontline with heavy arms. It is the justified time to slaughter the throats of those who refuse our kids the basic precious gift of nature ie LIFE. I await the command from you the NOBLE LEADERS. Incase Mr Dannyboy still don't understand, there's a difference between the La Republic Du Cameroun citizens and the current regime that is ruling them why perpetuating murderous acts in my country the SOUTHERN CAMEROONS. I one of the defence army of the Southern Cameroons understand this difference as my leaders have taught me. Don't the mean propaganda.

Danny Boy

"Rexon; where have you been? It is been long since I read any garbage coming from that your cavity that you proudly called a brain. If you have to stay away from this forum for an "extended" period of time, do yourself a big favor by reporting to me and getting my approval before you take any leave of absence. You are proving to be heady and your murky brain is incrementally evoking your superciliousness. Stay cool and objective - you moron; and always try to be a good boy.

Have I opened a can of jiggers? Who cares?

Your everlasting Papa."
culled from Camnetwork@yahoogroups.com.

Rexon,
I am sure you came across these choice words from one of your "admirers"! Need I say anymore?
Keep putting your foot into your mouth with all your dire diatribes about the SDF colouring an inexistent democracy in Cameroon.
If yours has changed from the force of argument to the argument of force, then what is stopping you starting the fight here? For starters, go and lob a petrol bomb at the High Commission here. That is Cameroon territory is it not? Or you are waiting for some poor kid to do it for you in Cameroon and in the process, gets himself/herself shot for your gains?
Coward am I? No. The voice of reason.
You are supposed to know better, but your ploy is to send your brothers and sisters to an early grave. Shame on you and to Chopfire, your new found larkey.
If you want anybody on this forum to take you seriously ever again, accomplish the task I have just suggested.
May the Almighty grant you peace.

Boumbi

Biya is the worste person in the world this month. Also I find it amazing that when you read news in the CNN and most especially BBC you will hear of Zimbabwe and Mugabe but not Cameroon making head lines. Isn't Biya and Mugabe trying different startegist to have them remain in power forever?? I guess the are all focused on Zimbabwe because he refused to give the land to farm and Biya allowed them to exploit resources in cameoon. So its okay if Biya change the constitution as long as he remain in the good books of the West but bad luck for mugabe who has bitten the fingers that was surposed to "protect him". Its time for us to start taking actions regarding the issues of our country rather than waiting for manners to come from the west. it will never happen. Biya and his 150CFA paliamentarians must be punished with death!!

Ta Nguh

Relatives of these parliamentarians are as culpable as the parliamentarians themselves when it comes to the heneous crime that they just committed in the name of changing the constitution. If their relations ere to put pressure on them to do what is right and in the interest of the people of La Republic du Cameroun, the CPDM so called 'party discipline' will not be respected to the extend to which it is being respected. They do it because they and their relations are benefiting from the booty that they get at the end of the day.
THE PARLIAMENTARIANS ARE GUILTY.
THEIR CHILDREN ARE GUILTY OF THE CRIME.
THEIR WIVES/HUSBANDS ARE GUILTY.
THEIR OTHER RELATIONS ARE GUILTY.
THEY SHOULD ALL GO DOWN FOR IT.
Period.

simplice

Hey, gentlemen and lady(Ma Mary)of the core, do you think such a radical approach will avail us any good solution?. Please I'll advice you all to start doing something to create employment back home. Use the monies intended to hire "intifada fighters" for economic purposes. Killing and counter-killing will be disastrous to the whole nation as the Kenyan syndrome might take effect. This is my counsel;"war is the last resort in the resolution of a conflict".
Mr Ta Nguh, when u advocate, all other relatives of parliamentarians be killed for an act they didn't commit, I find it as an incitation to genocide.I pray this forum doesn't become the replica of "Radio Mille Collines " in Rwanda.

one cameroon

Simpice what kind of business can one carry out in this Cameroon that tax is not gooing to sweep everything? You asking people to use their resources for economic achievement where is Cameroon's economy? Any money invested in Cameroon is going back to this dictator and his cohorts.Carrying out what you suggested is like financing our operator. There is one thing we have to do first before trying to invest. THAT IS CUTTING AWAY BI MVONDO.
But unlike the other the other forumites i will prescribe a National Peaceful Strike. We should make it clear why we are striking. We, should not like in the latest strike let greediness overshadow our aim.By this means we would expose Biya to the world and if this doesn't succeed we take on plan "B".
We have to use utmost caution in tackling this.

one cameroon

sorry i meant SIMPLICE.

eyallow

This is what I am talking about. We have to kill these bastards. They will drench our country into waste. The questions now is how to get this done. We need mercenaries.

We have to organise on how to meet. There is no need for a civil war rather targeted elimination will teach this conniving bastards a lesson. Are they taking the cameroonian populace for granted.

I know the next thing will be that the government will try to shut down this site when they see what we are discussing in here. However, they will not stop us.

Those MPs that have added salt to our wounds will pay dearly. They will not have a single night of peaceful from hence forth. We will get the best snipers of the first order. We will eliminate them one at a time.

Brothers this is a war, one to one. We will not put the lives of the innocent into danger. We have to target all those embezzling ministers as well.

Are we together?

simplice

Mr One Cameroon. Corporate tax in Cameroon is more or les 39% of Profits. The average in the European Union is more or less 50%. Any business can flourish in Cameroon. Try and See.

eyallow

One Cameroon,

Striking is a waste of time. Those buffoon soldiers who are trigger happy will gun us down like flies even if we were peaceful. We will not be stupid to let what happened a few weeks ago repeat itself.

My suggestion is that from now on it is bush war. Let them mobilize all their soldiers to protect those MPs, they will never know when we strike.

Lets not incite any more strikes. lets stay cool and set panick into their camp. We have to be tactical and opportunistic, striking when they least expect. Even if we gun down only one or two, it will set a lesson.

There is no turning back if you ask my opinion.

chopfire

Mr DannyBoy we may be having contradictory views here but remember CONTRADICTIONS IF WELL UNDERSTOOD CAN SPARK UP THE FIRE OF INVENTION.
I have been in no way encouraging Cameroonians to go strike actions or advocated the emanation of a civil war in Cameroon.More innocent souls would perish,thats why we need to target those who are the immediate cause of this issue,the parliamentarians, just as Mr eyallow is reasoning. we certainly dont need to target all of them but the few that fall prey would pass out the message.
Simplice, you might be right that anybody can do business but once you start excelling you have to dance to the tune or you go down, a cockroach can never be innocent in a gathering fowls, how many successful businessmen are there in Cameroon who are not members of the winning team. Just check the list above

franklin

My Dear Country men,
TIME HAS COME FOR US TO CAPTURE FEAR AND FIGHT FOR THE REAL AND TRUE FACE OF CAMEROON
Tears flow down when i think of my beautiful Nation Cameroon.A Country that is Blessed in all aspect of life but taken hostage by a few group of embezellers who kill and hate to see beauty in their life, lead by a Military dictator in the name of a president(biya)

I blame the military of Cameroon who have failed to prove their talents round the teritorial boundaries of Cameroon but tend to be manipulated by Biya with a sum of 2500fcfa per day.To show their talents on the Cameroonian citizens by using life bullets to kill their own country men comiting massive jenocide( Bonaberi incident) rather than protecting them from outsiders.Being the head of military those not signify all his orders most be respected.I wander if they are happy themself with the situation of Cameroon.fridom,roads,education,jobs,and lifes of Cameroonians are frustrating leading to Brain drain and Massive exedox of both the old and the yourth of cameroon because none is moving in the country.The interest of cameroonians are not protected even just for 1 minute.then which kind of president ddo we have.I take God name to beg the military of cameroon to open their eyes now or befor the know,they will fall in thesame trap be killed like ann

simplice

Let those advocating War herein start posting evidence of how they're winning. Soon the dust of this matter would have settled and nothing will be left our "would be freedom fighters". What "intifada" would you lead from without national boarders?.
Men..., "an eye for an eye" will take us nowhere. You talk as if you've suddenly become God. God loves his children and if He wants Biya quitted now, He'll boot him out the next minute. God doesn't advocate revenge;does He?.

nevboy

I respect and value the views of others but I am somewhat troubled or rather amazed by some of the comments raised by members of the Diaspora. Biya is not to blame but the parliamentarians are. Children and relatives of parliamentarians will be made to pay the price etc.

Without doubt, I sympathize deeply with brother Akume and I hope and pray that your brother’s soul shall rest in nothing but perfect peace. I must reiterate the fact that whilst your brother is a victim, he is also our hero – he is NOT a coward like most Cameroonians who are benefiting from the current environment are. I therefore urge you to look at the positive aspects of the circumstance and restrain from the views that revenge brings consolation and ends or speeds up the process of mourning. The problems we have in Cameroon are primarily caused by lack of democratic values and there is some correlation between democratic values and personal independence (age of being treated as an adult). Unfortunately parliamentarians are adults hence only they and they alone are responsible for their actions. If we argue otherwise then the decision to immunize Biya is appropriate on the basis that his son can be held accountable. I would rather we see him and his son as separate men with possibly different mind sets.

On the issue of Biya possibly continuing as the president, we cannot hold parliamentarians responsible. My conclusion is that to remain in power would imply that Biya does not love his people and his county. A leader must have a vision and good leaders must set good examples. Biya has clearly failed in this regard. Nonetheless, any form of aggression is not the solution. My father once told me that two wrongs do not make a right. Therefore, seeking the prevalence of democratic values must be done democratically and that is the only way of instilling confidence and achieving social cohesion within our communities.

Brothers and sisters, continuity is as important as ideals and whilst we are desperate for an ideal situation, we must consider both to achieve a perfect state of equilibrium that will serve every Cameroonian satisfactorily. There is no doubt that the poor have been let down and there is no doubt that through institutionalized bribery and corruption, our privileged brothers and sisters continue to take advantage of the poor. We are stuck but I remain confident that the engine of our train will ignite and we will soon be on the move again like the old days. Let’s share our views, let’s make our voices heard but let it be democratic too.

Danny Boy

Dear Forumites,
just read on another forum that Mount Cameroon is erupting and the fall-out from this could be cataclysmic!!! Can somebody back there enlighten the forum, please.
It is said that Scientists had briefed the government about a month ago about this.
Please call your love ones in the vicinity of this mountain and advise them to be vigilant.
We do not need this, oh Lord, if you are listening.

simplice

Nevboy, that piece was absolutely brilliant
Dannyboy, thanks for the update.

BrotherJohnson

Brother Chopfire, I thank you very much for all the lists you've provided! In my book you're already a hero. But I a little problem though- because of the similarities/ sameness of our last names, due to some belonging to the same ethnic groups, I would really like for the search to continue and for the offsprings of these monkey-men to be identified. I don't want to go kill someone and later find out he/she just bears the same last name to any of those usurpers of our land. I hope una feel me?

Mr. Simplice, be careful how you quote God, sir. It seems like you're making fun of us by saying things like this-
" God loves his children and if He wants Biya quitted now, He'll boot him out the next minute"

So I guess you want us to wait on the lord? Bro, the days of slavery and manipulation are long long gone...
Let the liberation commence!!!

Jesco

I just wished Cameroon could boost only of 10 suicide bombers. But I am sorry to say all we engage in is blahblah blah.

I have come to the conclusion that we all Cameroonians are hypnotised and inertia has eaten deep into our fabrics. Can some one prove me wrong?

God is the ultimate!

the biggest tboy

It was with shock and great disappointment when i received the news that the bill on the extention of the presidential mandate received an absolute majority vote last thursday in parliament.This is a major blow to the cameroonians and an abuse to democracy.What a shame to our so call representatives in parliament.Infact i wonder if these selfish and corrupt set of cameroonians worth the name"representatives" because they are representing their pockects and not their constituencies.We all know biya will soon be caught by nemesis and that is the reason why he have made the constitution to his favour after he leaves office.But he and his team should be aware that laws are made by men and can be changed or violated by men or betterstill we will apply the jungle justice tactics to track them down.so biya and co you can only succeed to amend or change the constitution but you can not run away from your shadow because it will always be after you. BIYA THE DIASPORA ARE PREPARING TO STAGE A COME BACK,IS NO LONGER THE ISSUE OF SCNC OR SDF,BUT A STRUGGLE FOR ALL CAMEROONIANS OF GOOD WILL.My fellow cameroonians living abroad,lets all join forces and see how we can get our beloved fatherland from the economic,political and social impass biya and co has driven us into.lets make cameroon the economic giant it's surpose to be for the betterment of our younger generations.BIYA,IS HIGH TIME YOU TAKE THE HONORARY EXIT AND STEP DOWN SO AS TO START SERVING YOUR PRISON TERMS EARLIER.

stone

I support you Eyallow. I have been thinking deeply for the past days. If we go for a strike, those uneducated and stupid soldiers who don't know the difference between left and right will just spray their bullets on us as they did to Akume's brother. Take note that i am not saying that we should be afraid. We should never FEAR but i want us to put an end to these crisis in cameroon technically. We have to plan carefully and give Biya the same terminating therapy which was given to General Sani Abacha in Nigeria. He was Poisoned with an apple. We should use different types of silent terminating therapy on all the CPDM parliamentarians and their cohorts.
Dear Cameroonians, we have to fight for our nation. We will never give up. Lets not wait for the UNITED NATIONS OR INTERNATIONAL ORGANISATIONS.
THE IS NO GOLD IN CAMEROON,
THE IS NO DIAMOND IN CAMEROON,
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OIL IN CAMEROON,
CAMEROONIANS WHY DO YOU THINK THEY WILL HELP YOU.
I now understand why they went and removed the dictator from IRAG. But why are they not seeing the dictator, blood drinker, embezeller and homosexual in Cameroon. Who wants to be in power for life. who is saying that after he steps down, he would not be held responsible for any crimes he committed during his TERMS of office. why are they not seeing this dictator who killed almost a whole village (LAKE NYO's DISASTER) and has put so many innocent people behind bars.
Thank you Mr Chopfire for the list of CPDM MP's and their cohorts you pasted on this forum. We will begin our silent terminating therapy immediately.
STONE

UnitedstatesofAfrica

"Biya is an old decrepit. He might not live until 2011 or for many more years after that. Therefore, our fight is and should be against the CPDM. What is happening is indeed good news. Those who voted for this party at the last elections now know they have been short-changed(used!). Unless these people are morons or masochists, I do not see them making the same mistakes come 2011!" - Danny boy

With all due respect, you are sounding like an idiot. So this constitutional amendment is good in the long run huh? the logic behind such a blasphemous statement, I don't know. Look here Sir, it is easier for you to make such statements because you live abroad, you enjoy the puffy sofas in your one-room apartment, you put food on your table three or more times per day(depending on your appetite) and you probably drive a car. You make such statements because you are not experiencing the hell Cameroonians have to go through. Everyday is a bleak struggle with no light at the end of the tunnel.

If you were a graduate from UB with no job or a teacher in SASSE who earns 30,000 cfa a month, I wonder if you would tell Cameroonians to wait till 2011 before dreaming of any change.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

Simplice, I am sorry I couldn't jump into this debate earlier. As you know, I had some censorship issues.

Simplice,with due respect, you are one of the few minds on this forum that I respect and listen to.I am always amazed by your level of intelligence and maturity. However, your position on issues are always equivocal. You never clearly come out to state a clear, concise and firm opinion. Instead, you resort to your "mediating" "applauding" "cautioning" and "sitting-on-the-fence" techniques.

Take this issue for example, what is your clear opinion on it? are you pro-war? anti-war? diplomatic tactics? dormancy on the path of Cameroonians? what?

simplice

Mr USAfrica, your question is a fair challenge and I'll endeavour to satisfy your curiousity.
In the prevailing fuming atmosphere, I caution "diplomacy" as the way forward. Killing will breed "counter-killing". Children and relatives of parliamentarians who recently mortgaged the fatherlands destiny ,are innocent in this matter. Resorting to them, as means of expressing our frustration and lamentation, will be synonymous to cowardice of a phenomenal dimension.
I think, before accusing Biya and cohorts of what they're doing for the nation, we should ask ourselves first what we have done for our nation. Forumites herein keep complaining every now and then. Hear them lament:...'the constitution has been changed'....'Cameroon is in Chaos'.....'people cannot afford to eat'....."what has Biya done for 26 yrs in Power?".......etc.
The reproach shouldn't be the gov't as we always seem to think and proclaim. We're the problem: in the sense that, we sit and do nothing for our country and only get shouting, lampooning and singing highly flutted chorus of misfortune in the event of a political malaise.
Most of those advocating "voilence as means" to revert the tide as based abroad. Some of them,have never been to the farm form 6 am to 6 pm. Some of them have never fasted, talkless of going hungry for 3 straight hours. Some of them where born in honey, grew in milk and presently depending on sugar for a livelihood. In a sentence, some of them are cowards and have never seen the colour of blood in mass scale, flow from the veins of a dying innocent.
I think we must first of all: disillusion ourselves of a violent "road map" as means to an end. Then we can see clearly the strenght of diplomacy; civil disobedience... etc.
Take it or leave it: it is freedom of speech;the essence and wealth of the forum(diversity of opinion).

theway

I personally appreciate the constructive comments here. Is good but we should not remain on paper standard issues, at least we need practicals. For example, I have struggle to build a bomb with Nitric acid. i just need support from others to pour it on our grand father in Yaounde and our stupid and uneducated MPs.
Biya should not forget that nothing is hidden under the sun. He most pay back one day. For all what that goes up most one day comes down...
We need leaders that can serve the nation and not term of offices for no work done. As long as a leader can deliver the goods and services well, there would be no need for term of offices.... and since our grand father Biya cannot do it well... he should leave or face the consequences for suffering Cameroonians for more than 25years and putting Cameroon into dark ages with no civilization.
Please let us join and do something to make our nation constructive and not destructive
thanks to all


UnitedstatesofAfrica

Simplice, I understand where you are coming from and it your argument seems failry logical. However, don't the innocent always suffer with the guilty? look at the recent strikes that occured. Some innocent children and teenagers were accidentally or intentionally killed by the police force. Did these children/teens have anything to do with the degenerating political system in Cameroon? No! do they have parents? Yes! was their innocene taken into account before they were murdered? No!

Exactly my point. What I am trying to show is this double standard. Is it ok for these children to be killed but it is no ok for the children of Politicians to be killed. Or is it because these are children of the poor masses? Parents and Parents and children and children. If the people force have the nerve to kill innocent children and render their parents childless, then we should also kill the innocent children of the Politicians and render them childless. No double standard. Everybody should be treated with equal magnitude. When Politicians are killing our sons and daughters through censorship, detention, and embezzlement, don't they know that they have parents? when they slaughter our sons for opposing their fraudulent practices and when they rape our daughters for refusing the partner with them, don't they know that these children have parents? if they can kill our innocent children without mercy why should we spare theirs?


"I think, before accusing Biya and cohorts of what they're doing for the nation, we should ask ourselves first what we have done for our nation" - Simplice

Simplice, I was about to end here but I couldn't resist the temptation of quoting your cheap imitation and paraphrase of John F. Kennedy's famous lines. It kept egging on me to say something and I just had to give in. No pun (or harm) intended.

Your humble servant,

UnitedstatesofAfrica

UnitedstatesofAfrica

forgive my errors!

BrotherJohnson

Mr. Simplice, let me counter your argument here. You say:
"Most of those advocating "voilence as means" to revert the tide are based abroad. Some of them,have never been to the farm form 6 am to 6 pm. Some of them have never fasted, talkless of going hungry for 3 straight hours. Some of them where born in honey, grew in milk and presently depending on sugar for a livelihood. In a sentence, some of them are cowards and have never seen the colour of blood in mass scale, flow from the veins of a dying innocent"
1) Shouldn't it be a plus to us that even the privileged Cameroonians are willing to join the suffering masses in this struggle?
2) I don't know how you got to know that some people writing here were born with golden spoons in their mouths or took baths in mineral water, but I know that what you should be concerned about is the the fact that all Cameroonians are fed up with this Biya's bullshit and a great number of them, victims and sympathizers (if you like) are prepared to do something about it.
Hmmm, the way you come here and always try to deter people from pursuing this one, sure-fire solution to liberation that we've come up with, makes me wonder about you. You and Dannyboy!
Last time you talked of God. How would you know it is not God manifesting through us right now, to get rid of that old fart of a president, once and for all? You don't know, do you?

UnitedstatesofAfrica

Simplice, I understand where you are coming from and it your argument seems failry logical. However, don't the innocent always suffer with the guilty? look at the recent strikes that occured. Some innocent children and teenagers were accidentally or intentionally killed by the police force. Did these children/teens have anything to do with the degenerating political system in Cameroon? No! do they have parents? Yes! was their innocene taken into account before they were murdered? No!

Exactly my point. What I am trying to show is this double standard. It is ok for these children to be killed but it is not ok for the children of Politicians to be killed. Or is it because these are children of the poor masses? Parents are Parents and children are children. If the Police force have the nerve to kill innocent children and render their parents childless, then we should also kill the innocent children of the Politicians and render them childless. No double standard. Everybody should be treated with equal magnitude. When Politicians are killing our sons and daughters through censorship, detention, and embezzlement, don't they know that they have parents? when they slaughter our sons for opposing their fraudulent practices and when they rape our daughters for refusing the partner with them, don't they know that these children have parents? if they can kill our innocent children without mercy why should we spare theirs?

"I think, before accusing Biya and cohorts of what they're doing for the nation, we should ask ourselves first what we have done for our nation" - Simplice

Simplice, I was about to end here but I couldn't resist the temptation of quoting your cheap imitation and paraphrase of John F. Kennedy's famous lines. It kept egging on me to say something and I just had to give in. No pun (or harm) intended.

Your humble servant,

UnitedstatesofAfrica


Danny Boy

US of Africa,
I am sorry you could not join the debate from it's very beginning. Read the postings of those I was answering to and may be, you will get my drift.
If indeed you advocate the slaying of the children of CPDM parliamentarians, let me know.
As for how much graduates from UB, teaching in Sasse earn, I can only suppose the Catholic Mission is paying the market rate. If you find that unacceptable, address your qualms to the Catholic Mission.
Lastly, like many here in the West, I eat once a day. We do not have that luxury of three square meals a day! We work hard for our money ie 24/7, all year round!

UnitedstatesofAfrica

Danny boy,
your shabby attempt to dodge the tough questions I posed to you will not go unnoticed. I didn't ask you a question about the finances of the Catholic mission or whether you work hard for your money. I could care less if you worked 24/7 year around for your money or plucked it from a tree behind your one-room apartment.

I asked a simple question, if you were a UB graduate wandering the dusty streets of Cameroon without any job OR if you were a SASSE teacher who earns 30,000 cfa a month, would you still make this statement,
"Biya is an old decrepit. He might not live until 2011 or for many more years after that. Therefore, our fight is and should be against the CPDM. What is happening is indeed good news"- Danny Boy

I am not demanding an answer from you because I already know what it will be. I guess it's every man for himself.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

"In the prevailing fuming atmosphere, I caution "diplomacy" as the way forward"- Simplice

...and Simplice, would you kindly tell us more about this "diplomacy" and how it would work? how the suffering masses of Cameroonians go about this "diplomacy" and why would it be successful. Also explain, if you don't mind, how this "diplomacy" will be different from the diplomacy of the past. We all know that diplomacy in the past hasn't produced any fruits for the masses so how will this your "diplomacy" be different and actually produce results? Simplice, you have even called those advocating for violence cowards so please don't be a coward. Be a brave man and tell us about your "diplomacy" strategy. Thank you very much for your cooperation and I am anxiously waiting for a reply. Thanks again.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

Danny Boy

Addendum:
US of Africa,
if you are a democrat, then you should know that the next presidential elections in Cameroon will be in 2011. Biya has the mandate until then and if for any reason you do not want him to be there, stage a coup.
I read above someone claiming to have made himself a bomb from Nitric Acid. Could be one of your graduates from Buea. Liaise with him on how best to put this device into maximum usage and effect. Do not get yourselves blown up in the process, scalded or poisoned by the toxic fumes!
Get real Mr. US of Africa and stop being emotional. That constitution is not worth the piece of papaer it is written on and not worth dying for. Feel free to sacrifice your life for the amendments, but please, do not egg others on.
Spare us your verbal diarrhoea too. Most of us read the new testament, not the old! -an eye for an eye and all that silly stuff.

Ma Mary

Simplice, thanks for the invitation and challenge to participate, but no thanks, we really have no interest in the totally predictable Camerounese sturm und drang. We have much more interesting work to do–for the Southern Cameroons.

There is something disturbing about you, sir. You never take a position. You equivocate and vacillate. You pretend to be some kind of umpire and provocateur and make tepid statements that are neither here nor there. What's with that?

Are you a real pacifist, or would your real name pop up as one of the children of Camerounese big shots residing in the Europe? Do I detect a tinge of fear, now that the common folk are now speaking the language of the guillotine?

simplice


Mr USAfrica , if I properly grasped your preoccupations, they’re of two orders:
1) Circumstances Surrounding the Diplomatic Road-Map I propound as head-way to a lasting solution;
2) How above antidote differs from past diplomatic avenues.

Answers
1) -Every business owed by a parliamentarian or relative to a parliamentarian or CPDM cohort should be disserted. By collective desertion, we shall set a precedence where-by these parliamentarians will start thinking society over personality.
-The Populace engages in Civil disobediences acts as means of sending a strong signal to the government: that, they’re discontented with the prevailing constitutional monarchy.

2) -Above antidotes are different from past diplomatic avenues in the perspective that, they weaken the economic and political machinery in a subtle, substantial and pacific manner.

If this cannot be realised, it simply means that, Cameroonians are not prepared for change. They still have to grow in patriotism.

To your allegation of my citing JF Kennedy’s celebrated proclamation; I’ll simply remind you that, nothing propounded herein(be it fact, hypothesis of whatsoever) isn’t the fruit of some historical inspiration, theoretical know-how, experience, statistics or meticulous observation( constituents of a fact). I was only being factual Sir.

USAfrica, I must congratulate you for your new signature (Your humble Servant): it spells Pa Ngembus is now the only person admonishing propagandistic quibbles for persuasive and debating tactics.

simplice

Ma Mary,

If the prevaling concern affects the masses for whom you're fighting, it should definitely be on your agenda. I expected your President to make a speech to restrain other Southern Cameroonians from misplacing priorities. What if I were one of you and didn't know this is a matter of territorial integrity and you seem to indirectly advocate?. I think, the participation of Rexon and Mk the Southernern dooms your stand point.
To your concern of my position on this forum: I'm very permeable,dynamic and ready to accept any fact-based reflection; irrespective of source.

mk the southerner

I see it will be very difficult before some Southern Cameroonians no the truth about that Cameroun they think is theirs.

I see the reason for all Southern Cameroonians to have seen that writing on the wall. Lets talk about the Southern Cameroons and what we should do and stop wasting our time on a useless Cameroun.

SDF refusing amendment of the constitution and at the same time proposing her own amendments. How can you be refusing something and accepting it at the same time. This is a constitution in 1996 in which the SDF said the constitution was undemocratic and there fore was non and void, but today they are proposing a bill to be amended in that same constitution. If I where the one I simply say no amendment of the constitution what so ever and I stand my grounds. Rather than proposing my own amendments.

Please my dear people let us see better!
God bless Southern Cameroons

rexon

The problems we and citizens of La Republique are facing is a very good one in my opinion. It was in this same parliament that La Republique constantly manipulated the constitution that destroyed the federated structures. At the time they were executing their name changing syndrome and constitutional manipulation, they were laughing and minimising its effect on the Southern Cameroonian freedom. We were then enslaved, manipulated and subjugated under untold sufferings over the years. We are slaves and second class citizens in our own land. It is in this same parliament that those Southern Cameroonian hypocrites who are more interested in Camerounese politics than the truth have been manipulated by another Camerounese and French puppet called Biya. This parliament whether for good or bad is symbolic and important to Southern Cameroonians and citizens of La Republique. It would one day be destroyed by Black nationalists and used as a touristic site. What we need is a revolution from both ends (La Republique and Southern Cameroons) and the end product must be based on a mutual respect for both parties.


People, lets dont start planning to kill people whether they are innocent or guilty. Lets instead take this time as a moment of deep reflections. There are many things the different fragmented group should reflect about. Those involved in Camerounese politics should reflect as to how and why one man can dominate them for soo long. Those of us of the SCNC and all the Southern Cameroonian freedom fighting movements should reflect as to how we can exploit this situation for our full advantage. Lets dont start killing people and create chaos over nothing. Quite recently, more than 1000 people were killed in Kenya and the result was the sharing of power with members of the opposition. That is exactly what will happen in Cameroon if at all we start killing each other.


MK the Southerner just brought a very interesting observation that i have just posted in another forum. Let the SDF stop sheepishly fumbling around and thinking they can play with peoples brains. You cannot call on people to sacrifice their lives to defend constitutional amendments, while at thesame time granting presidential immunity to Biya from thesame constitution. What does this SDF really stand for? Are they for or against specific texts in the constitution or are they completely against constitutional amendment? Let them tell the people the truth.

rexon

The problems we and citizens of La Republique are facing is a very good one in my opinion. It was in this same parliament that La Republique constantly manipulated the constitution that destroyed the federated structures. At the time they were executing their name changing syndrome and constitutional manipulation, they were laughing and minimising its effect on the Southern Cameroonian freedom. We were then enslaved, manipulated and subjugated under untold sufferings over the years. We are slaves and second class citizens in our own land. It is in this same parliament that those Southern Cameroonian hypocrites who are more interested in Camerounese politics than the truth have been manipulated by another Camerounese and French puppet called Biya. This parliament whether for good or bad is symbolic and important to Southern Cameroonians and citizens of La Republique. It would one day be destroyed by Black nationalists and used as a touristic site. What we need is a revolution from both ends (La Republique and Southern Cameroons) and the end product must be based on a mutual respect for both parties.


People, lets dont start planning to kill people whether they are innocent or guilty. Lets instead take this time as a moment of deep reflections. There are many things the different fragmented group should reflect about. Those involved in Camerounese politics should reflect as to how and why one man can dominate them for soo long. Those of us of the SCNC and all the Southern Cameroonian freedom fighting movements should reflect as to how we can exploit this situation for our full advantage. Lets dont start killing people and create chaos over nothing. Quite recently, more than 1000 people were killed in Kenya and the result was the sharing of power with members of the opposition. That is exactly what will happen in Cameroon if at all we start killing each other.


MK the Southerner just brought a very interesting observation that i have just posted in another forum. Let the SDF stop sheepishly fumbling around and thinking they can play with peoples brains. You cannot call on people to sacrifice their lives to defend constitutional amendments, while at thesame time granting presidential immunity to Biya from thesame constitution. What does this SDF really stand for? Are they for or against specific texts in the constitution or are they completely against constitutional amendment? Let them tell the people the truth.

simplice

I Challenge Ma Mary to gulp comments from her ideological partisans(Mk and Rexon)and recant what she just vommited above.
Dear Forumites, how can you reconcile what Ma Mary boldly propounded , with recents statements by her SCNC advocates. This should be a phenomenal startling contrast. Can somone prove me wrong?.

vito

I think te Postnewsline is striving for sensationalism.Its sad and misleading and i must say its been so for a while;and the raison d'etre of the rather lethargic reactions of its once very active commentators.When you say 'SDF backs Biya's presidential immunity' one would think the SDF backed a text stating "Mr.Paul Biya will not be accountable for any crimes or offences...";lets get serious folks ;and it gets worse when a few hours later you say the SDF boycotted parliament and didnt vote.Grandiose i'd say,but in the body of the text what are we told?'The SDF parliamentarians lead by Joseph Mbah Ndam boycotted the elections giving the other MPs an absolute majority.'Really sad because it gives the impression that the CPDM got an absolute majority because the SDF boycotted the vote.False.Please be serious.Its true you get more than five comments on any story these days only when you relate it to the SDF,but that's rather cheap and unnerving because it misleads simple though honest minds,and God knows they abound on this forum.Please show some professionalism.you can do better.Thank you.

Simplice i really dont find Ma Mary's comments contradictory to her stand.Point is, she says what she thinks while Rexon says what he's told to say and its risky because it all reflects the spirit of the person who conceived the idea he tries to pass across.Now take for example"we of la republique..."coming from Rexon gets you all confused doesnt it?Well,the reason is the real writer is a Camerounian and later on when a Scian will send his you'll get something to the effect of"we of the southern cameroons..." from same Rexon.Bear with him.

Ma Mary

Very simple: whether la republique describes itself as a monarchy, an empire, a dictatorshipor whatever, it is all the same to the Southern Cameroons. The fact is that Mr Biya has always been defacto ruler till death. Those who could not see the signs were taken. Southern Cameroonians should stay out of the drama.

Chief Whip

Fools!
Your house is on fire, rather than hurry out to put off the fire you sit inside to throw blows at each other. Simplice, or whatever you are called, you are fast becoming an irritation on this forum. Please, take a break and put a little more thinking to the nonsense you post here.

The Whip.

Grass_field

Hello Emperor Paul B. Will your immunity (in Cameroon which can be changed by the next president) be also covered in the International Court of Justice? Maybe you should go to Den Hag and pass a new law to immunize you. I guess you are making a big mistake. Do not think that you can do whatever you want and go free. I feel so much pity for you and your family especially after your Emperorship ends. Re member that Bokassa could not last long after being crowned Almighty Emperor of RCA. Idi Amin Dada of Uganda also ended up badly. Think twice.

simplice

Mr Chief Whip.
What is your stance?
What are doing?
What do you advocate?
What do you deem is Nonsense from me?
Please, pick-point my nonentities and expose to the forum.Waiting.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

"I read above someone claiming to have made himself a bomb from Nitric Acid. Could be one of your graduates from Buea. Liaise with him on how best to put this device into maximum usage and effect. Do not get yourselves blown up in the process, scalded or poisoned by the toxic fumes!"- Danny Boy

Danny boy,
call me lackluster or a "Debbie Downer" but I don't find it funny to mock the potential of UB graduates. This comment has definitely placed my notion of you into proper perspective. You are probably living the playboy life abroad courtesy to Daddy's money. Daddy spoiled you from the get go didn't he? Daddy's investments are flourishing back home and I won't be surprised if Daddy has a memorable position in the Biya regime. You have your empire and investments to protect and you will fight till every coin in tightly locked in Daddy's coffers. Understandable.

However, all this political chaos back home must have morphed you into an insomnia patient. I wish I had good news for you buddy but I don't. More sleepless nights await you in the future and poking fun at UB graduates will in no way relieve the pain. Sorry!

UnitedstatesofAfrica

"Mr Chief Whip.
What is your stance?
What are doing?
What do you advocate?" - Simplice

these questions are being asked by Simplice? are you serious?. I am genuinely perplexed, really. Are these questions coming from somebody whose debate tactics are "mediating" "restating" "applauding" "opposing" and "sitting-on-the-fence?"? you must be kidding. Simplice, you are truly, in no stretch of the imagination, a Simpleton.

simplice

Mr USAfrica: please scroll and peruse my posting on your preoccupation before erring bad laundry. Here is it in verbatim:
"Mr USAfrica, your question is a fair challenge and I'll endeavour to satisfy your curiousity.
In the prevailing fuming atmosphere, I caution "diplomacy" as the way forward. Killing will breed "counter-killing". Children and relatives of parliamentarians who recently mortgaged the fatherlands destiny ,are innocent in this matter. Resorting to them, as means of expressing our frustration and lamentation, will be synonymous to cowardice of a phenomenal dimension.
I think, before accusing Biya and cohorts of what they're doing for the nation, we should ask ourselves first what we have done for our nation. Forumites herein keep complaining every now and then. Hear them lament:...'the constitution has been changed'....'Cameroon is in Chaos'.....'people cannot afford to eat'....."what has Biya done for 26 yrs in Power?".......etc.
The reproach shouldn't be the gov't as we always seem to think and proclaim. We're the problem: in the sense that, we sit and do nothing for our country and only get shouting, lampooning and singing highly flutted chorus of misfortune in the event of a political malaise.
Most of those advocating "voilence as means" to revert the tide as based abroad. Some of them,have never been to the farm form 6 am to 6 pm. Some of them have never fasted, talkless of going hungry for 3 straight hours. Some of them where born in honey, grew in milk and presently depending on sugar for a livelihood. In a sentence, some of them are cowards and have never seen the colour of blood in mass scale, flow from the veins of a dying innocent.
I think we must first of all: disillusion ourselves of a violent "road map" as means to an end. Then we can see clearly the strenght of diplomacy; civil disobedience... etc.
Take it or leave it: it is freedom of speech;the essence and wealth of the forum(diversity of opinion)."

UnitedstatesofAfrica

*yawns* ( at Simplice)

The same old story recycled and used over and over again.

simplice

Mistake USAfrica; below is the posting:
"Mr USAfrica , if I properly grasped your preoccupations, they’re of two orders:
1) Circumstances Surrounding the Diplomatic Road-Map I propound as head-way to a lasting solution;
2) How above antidote differs from past diplomatic avenues.

Answers
1) -Every business owed by a parliamentarian or relative to a parliamentarian or CPDM cohort should be disserted. By collective desertion, we shall set a precedence where-by these parliamentarians will start thinking society over personality.
-The Populace engages in Civil disobediences acts as means of sending a strong signal to the government: that, they’re discontented with the prevailing constitutional monarchy.

2) -Above antidotes are different from past diplomatic avenues in the perspective that, they weaken the economic and political machinery in a subtle, substantial and pacific manner.

If this cannot be realised, it simply means that, Cameroonians are not prepared for change. They still have to grow in patriotism.


To your allegation of my citing JF Kennedy’s celebrated proclamation; I’ll simply remind you that, nothing propounded herein(be it fact, hypothesis of whatsoever) isn’t the fruit of some historical inspiration, theoretical know-how, experience, statistics or meticulous observation( constituents of a fact). I was only being factual Sir.

USAfrica, I must congratulate you for your new signature (Your humble Servant): it spells Pa Ngembus is now the only person admonishing propagandistic quibbles for persuasive and debating tactics."


FRITZANE KIKI

Brethren,
Finally,at this defining moment in our history,political observers will bear with me that this load is more than the SDF which needs a blood splitting sacrifice.Despite efforts to forcefully denounce the constitutional amendments it was finally passed.The narrow-minded past of the opposition parties and its proclaimed partisan politics has not yet been fulfilled.It is the result of this easily passed bill.Little doubt why the opposition parties have been accused of some financial connivance with the government.

The lack of civic empowerment or a true democracy in the Biya's regime whose iron clad rule is similar to a fiery guerrilla leader,could not be overemphasised.A country where civil liberties,speech,movement and assembly is restricted.Lapiro De Mbanga's recent arrest is a clear example of the Biya's regime;a heritage of lynching from Ahidjo.

It needs not only one person but the whole nation to stand and say 'enough of this shit'.If not then the CPDM and its bandwagon will continue to hijack the electoral system and amend the constitution to their favor.However,those sellout politicians will pay their political price and stand justice since they have turned the nation's business into a private affair.

Fritzane Kiki
S.K

Danny Boy

US of Africa,
you are fast becoming ridiculous. My Dad can neither read nor write. He is not rich nor am I. Never worked for the Cameroon government at any time.
Playboy? Yes. Been married several times, not counting the extra-marital affairs. Many children, some in Cameroon, others here with me. Do I take care of them? Yes. Not form Daddy's money but from hardwork. The only sleepless nights I am having are thanks to the newest member of the family who is a few months old!
Would you kill any of them had I been a CPDM parliamentarian? If you say yes, then I will tell you how a chemical bomb is made, and you know what I will find your small village in Cameroon and wipe it off the map. Evil is not just your preserve.
Blessed be Cameroon.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

Danny boy,
I must admit that I admire a man who laughs at his own follies. It shows a high level of maturity and experience. However, there should be a limit to the follies you can joke about. I find it absolutely repulsive that you are joking about being a reckless sexual addict who lacks the courtesy to zip up his pants.

As if that is not enough, you bring in your new born child into the equation. You call me emotional and yet you use your baby strategically to win a cheap debate.

Didn't the innocent children who died during the recent strikes have parents? did the slain UB students not have parents? why is it ok for children of the poor masses to be viciously murdered by the government but it is abominable to talk about murdering the children of the Politicians who run the government?

chopfire

Its definitely clear that the forum is divided to factions but is there a common gold? if there is then various factions should spend more time developing their strategies towards this goal rather than making unnecessary and diversifying comments here. the issue here is to get the goal and not which faction gets the goal. If the diplomatic phylum has resorted civic disobedience as a strategy then Mr Simplice Dannyboy and others should be telling us how far they have gone to convincing Cameroonians to stay indoors during the up coming 20 may, or better still, in some cases of our current crises the military came in through a bloodless coup to save the nation (Amadou Toumani Touré 1991 Maliand Col. Mohamed Khouna Ould Haidallah 1984 Mauritania),could they also spend some time to orientate the Cameroon milary on this issue. Finally Mr Simplice through some logical and tactful means some forumites are succeeding in bring entropy here, don't you think if this tactics could be exploited and extended within the CPDM it can be a good starting point?
Dont boarder asking me how to cut off the head of a devil.
We should stop using this forum as an arena to exercise our English Language proficiencies and go to work

simplice

Mr Chopfire, we're working on our "road map". Cameroonians are already responding to our strategy. It can be appreciated from North to South and East to West. What is your interpretation of the following:(verbatim citation)
-"Massa that 1st May Labour Day, no concern we: Na Biya yi matter"
-"Dat 20th May, thing, no concern we, na CPDM Matter"
-"Make wonna stop for go chop for the CPDM parliamentarian yi sister yi restaurant".
For your information, this is the feed-back I got from our "Field Feed-back" 10 minutes ago.
I'll keep the forum posted.

chopfire

Good Mr Simplice, this is what i advocate, here feedbacks. But you only get your points if what is said is done, and not some sort of HOT Air as you have always termed others.
For your information as well, we have also succeeded in making some idling military and police offers work for the salaries they earn, if your uncle is a parliamentarian ask him how many bodyguards he is having now, and if your sister was dating a parliamentarian ask her if she is not missing her sin partner.
What is your interpretation of the following:(verbatim citation)
- "weh massa that man no di come chop bush meat again for that place"
-" the man ie ngah noba pass for market all these days"
- "o boy make da man no feel say that mbele dem go help pi,one day dem go loss sence then ie go hear ie mami
Feedback from our field 5 minutes ago,
I will keep the forum posted as well

simplice

Mr Chopfire. That evidence is material. That is my qualification of a gentleman of substance:pragmatism.
Men, keep on "working the work" and let those who forget the nature of the climate keep; "talking the talk" on the forum
I'll back get to you.

Grass_field

It is interesting to know that all Cameroonians Anglophones and Francophones are equally touched and having the same plans. TO KILL THOSE CAUSING SUFFERING TO CAMEROONIANS!! I hope those in power are thinking twice.
Please read this Francophone forum i.e if you can read French. Some comments are in English

http://www.bonaberi.com/artdist.php?aid=4082

Danny Boy

US of Africa,
my message to you is this, " Do not take life too seriously for you will never come out of it alive"
If you have any brains at all, think about this statement above. Maybe it could help form your philosophy in the future.
Extrapolate..... and you will be a better person.
Blessed be Cameroon.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

Dannyboy,

I see that you lack a sense of humor. Sarcasm is not the same as seriousness and you of all people should know that. Maybe you should listen to your own advice and not take things too seriously.

Secondly, the next time you want to propose a philosophy to me, at least come up with something new and fresh. The "Never take life too seriously bla bla bla" philosophy is an old, tired cliche. It entered mainstream over five or four years ago thanks largely to the Van Wilder movies. Back then, I was amazed by it but now, it's redundant to my ears. I am sorry to burst your bubble Dannyboy but your epiphany is a cliche.

Also, never taking life too seriously does not justify the lifestyle of a proud sex addict like you. There's nothing admirable about fathering bastard babies and creating unstable households. As a 21 year old male, I would never aspire to follow the footsteps of someone like you.

...and remember don't take life too seriously or you know what happens :)

simplice

"Also, never taking life too seriously does not justify the lifestyle of a proud sex addict like you. There's nothing admirable about fathering bastard babies and creating unstable households. As a 21 year old male, I would never aspire to follow the footsteps of someone like you.

...and remember don't take life too seriously or you know what happens :)" by USAfrica

Mr USAfrica, please respect the forum and recant those obstinate statements. I thought your new signature(Your Humble Servant) would be translated into some pragmantism.
And don't bother to disclose your age when next you're commenting;your write-ups already betray your juvenile nature.


UnitedstatesofAfrica

Wow! people on this forum really lack a sense of humor. Mr. Simpleton, the age and "humble servant" signature was all meant to be sarcasm. Some of you really need to dilute your frozen brains.

Regarding the "obstinate statements", Dannyboy himself boasted of being a playboy. He applauded himself for fathering children in Cameroon and abroad. The "obstinate statements" uttered on this forum were by Dannyboy and not me so next time you are have the urge to foolishly mediate, which is every 2 seconds, check your facts.

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