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Fonngang

Please Dr. Tamanjong, I don't think the SDF is the leading opposition party anymore. A real opposition party would have instead been challenging and making a mockery why in a so called "democratie avancee" the President had the right to meddle in affairs that deputies should handle.Even if this would not change much at the moment Cameroonians would understand where the party stands in relation to the dictatorship in Cameroon. Instead of lamenting for been sidelined the SDF would have been asking why deputies would not elect their own members into whatever committees in the national assembly. Anything involving appointments by someone indicates that that something can be controlled by he who does the appointment. So the SDF is accepting this overbearing decree power by the president by lamenting over their being sidelined. I have always made it known that the SDF's presence in parliament is simply for the financial benefits of the members who happen to be there. Why don't these members earn their money quietly but are now trying to give more support to the dictatorship they all asked Cameroonians to reject? Why do you in the SDF hierachy complain about being disfavoured by such abusive dictatorial powers which do nothing other than bring ruin to the country? Is the SDF becoming an accomplice to the demise of Cameroon or still a crusader? Anybody fighting to win something likes it. The SDF therefore likes Paul Biya's dictatorial powers because it is lamenting for not having benefitted from it. How can it then continue the fight for change now?

TAGRO

What does the so-called Higher Judicial Council do? That is the perspective the reporter should give us as readers?

In anycase, all of these institutions in the French enclave called la Republique du Cameroun, borne of genocide are all window dressing.

In a country that has degraded to such a level that it is the so-called president of the republic, "tif man" Paul Biya that determines who gets into academic institutions, as seen in the ENS Maroua debacle, I am happy to see that the end is near for this French-controlled house of cards.

The point I am trying to make is that, la Republique du Cameroun, is an almost perfect one-man dictatorship. Paul Biya gets his instructions from the Cellule Africaine and the Elysee Palace in France and implement them. These empty shells of Higher Judicial Council, Parliament and the rest is rubbish. Paul Biya the tif man does it all, appointing and firing who he pleases from his Prime Minister to Principals in secondary schools in places he does not know exist, and now determining who gets into ENS Maroua.

Capt.A, Ferdinand

,Wht i dont understand is the purpose of this higher judicial council, thier effecctive and wht it had done for the people of cameroon, or is still going to do, or are they just there for making mockery of our administrative toothless bulldog? pls let them give of wht the do and wht the will change for us .

popomustgo

BAMENDA NA UNA CARRY WE GO NOW NA UNA DI CRY

popomustgo

LATE JOHN NGU FONCHA AND HIS COLLEGUES TO US THE SOUTHWESTERNERS TO YAOUNDE.NOW,THE NORHTWESTERNERS FEEL THE PAIN MORE THAN THE SOUTHWESTERNERS.ONE THING WE SOUTHWESTERNERS KNOW FOR SURE IS BAMEDAISM WHICH IS NEPOTISM.SIMPLE EXAMPLE IS THE PARTY SDF,WHERE ALMOST ALL THE EXECUTIVE MEMBERS ARE BAMENDAS THERE SOMEONE FROM SOUTHWEST IS CONSIDERED AS A FOREIGNER.

Fonngang

Please I criticise the SDF but I cannot stand when you make such horrendous false statements about the party. The SDF party does not constititute its executive offices through nomination or appointments Can you please make a suggestion how anybody, not even only a person from the Southwest Province can be voted into office when he does not have a constituency behind him or when he does not run for a post? Besides The Founding fathers were forming an opposition party and not creating a parliamentin which members will represent every inch of West Cameroon territory.
I think this is a childish lie and I will not even stoop that low to defend it.
Secondly you stated that Bamenda people have started to feel the pain caused by John Ngu Foncha when he opted to drag West Cameroon to the East. I know your opinion does not in any sensible reflect the views of people of the Southwest but I should ask you this question. Why did you not form an opposition party and fight against that just as the Northwesterners did? How does anybody indicate objection to anything? By fighting against it, I think. You did not like joining East Cameroon why did you not fight against that?
Thirdly, it is from you I am hearing that Northwesterners are just beginning to feel the pain of reuniting with East Cameroon. Since the so called reunification name just one Southwesterner that has openly challenged that union. Do you remember Albert Mukong? Name another like him from the Southwest province. You don't like something why do you accept it? Are you not man enough to fight on your own?
And above everything else, must you be members of the SDF? If the SDF is so discriminatory why not form another political grouping in the South West and take up the fight too? That will even boost the struggle. You might even come out victorious before the "segregationist" SDF. I thought there were some parties formed in the South West just after the SDF was launched. What happened? Did the SDF conspire with government to stop them from operating?
I hate to hear myself pitting one Anglophone group against the other. But you made me do that. What do you think the NW has benefitted from reunification since 1972? In your opinion it is just today the North West is realising that West Cameroon in general has been the looser all along. Can you even identify one significant benefit the Northwest has had since reunification? Or you are the one to tell them that they have never benefitted anything. But how come the bastion of the opposition in all the various organisations opposing the regime in Yaounde are in the Northwest?
Your position is false, very divisive and childish.
But all I can say is that if the SDF is tribalistic and cannot serve your purpose, form a party and continue the fight. Do not hide behind the silly argument that too many parties are not good for a country. The more fronts we create in the struggle the better for us. Your accusations are just part of ancient history. The two provinces have all gone beyond that.
Please know that the so called Southwest Northwest problem (which in essence is what you have written down here) is a creation of the regime. You are just fanning the flames of something which is just a figment of the imagination of embeciles.
Popular psychology tells us that when a lie is told several times over very soon it starts sounding like the truth to less intelligent people. You are just a victim of that. Poor you.

rexon

Fonngang,

These CPDM people are just here to stir sentiments and confuse us. You are now speaking the language he wants you to speak and confuse the struggle we are involved in for the betterment of the CPDM regime.

To be more precise, people from the NW and SW have challenged the Union, just as people from both province are againt Biya. Chief Ayamba have challenged the Union, so was Mbile, Ekontang Elad, Henry Fossung, etc. These were not Northwestners. In the SDF, there are also people from the SW, Kofele Kale, Ndiva Mbua, etc are some of the many prominent names we have from the SW who are in the SDF. This buffon is just here to creat confusion after having been paid by Biyas CENER agent, he will dissapear and reappear with another name, just as many of their agents that have come here. Please, do take the bull by the horns and stop defending yourself in a way that lends credibility to his folly.

Cheers.

Fon.

Rexon,
You have said what I will have said.
Fongang would simply have ignored such a fool.

popomustgo

BAMENDA,UNA NOVA SEE NOTHING UNA DI CRY.WHY DO YOU NORTHWESTERNERS MAKE NOISE?YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER TO SOUTHERN CAMEROONS.NO RESOURCES NOTHING AT ALL.WE KNOW IF YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE HAD ANY RESOURCES,YOU WILL NEVER EMPLOY SOMEONE FROM SOUTHWEST.YOU WILL ONLY EMPLOY BAMENDAS.THE ONLY THING YOU CAN OFFER IS BAMENDAISM

rexon

Popomustgo,

Nations states do not need natural resources to progress and develop. What they need is human resources. By this, i mean people who can think wisely with the limited resources available and create wealth out of them. The brains we have from the NW is enough human resources and believe me, we do not need the resources of any province to develop. The service industry, Tourism, Banking, education does not rely on natural resources. By the way, what has the natural resources of countries like Nigeria, Congo, Cameroon, etc done to the people? On the other hand, countries like Sweden, Iceland, Finland with little or no natural resources have been able to develop because they have the human resources. I mean people who can think and drive the development of the country. If Cameroon is still standing today on its feets, it is because of the human resources available and not its natural resources. Where does the revenues for all the natural resources of the country end up? Is it not in the pockets of those despots? Is it used to develop the respective regions? What has Ndian gained from its petroleum or what has the east province gained from its timber exploitation?

Just to give you an idea, Sweden with little or no natural resources except forestry have been able to produce the following multinational companies: ABB, Astra, Volvo, Atlas Copco, sandvik, scania, Saab, Nordbanken, handelsbanken, skandia, astra zeneca, stora enso, SKF, H&M, Investor, Ericsson, just to name a few. Young man, the NW does not need the natural resources of the SW to develop and go and tell whoever is folling you that, we would develop our province without the need for anyones natural resources. We have enough people who can think and drive our own wealth creation. I have been talking to many of them from both the NW and SW and many are ready to drive the economic development of their regions. What we need are legislations that gives us the freewill to design strategies to create wealth for our people. Ireland too did not develop because it had enough natural resources. The whole blueprint to drive their economic development was designed from abroad and i have been privileged to talk to the people who designed this blueprint and i can testify to you that what we need most of human resources to propel the wellbeing of our people and not natural resources. That is why we must drive traitors and enemies like yourself out of the place, clean it and develop it.

Cheers and have a lovely Xmas.

simplice

Mr Rexon, that comment of yours is well researched. I think it highlights the educational value of this forum.

CountryFowl

Folks, the individual writing under that alias has been here before. Look carefully at the rehearsed script, weigh the fake grammatical errors in a previous post elsewhere & the attempt at foiling detection by writing his programmed speech in pidgin.
You will find that it is either the same individual who had earlier been writing hate filled propaganda here a long time ago under another name or it is another one of them masquerading as a new forum member.
Folks it is better to ignore these individuals. It is a childish baiting technique & an idiotic way to stir up trouble.
In any case, this type of tactic might not function or work, people are becoming increasingly intelligent & aware that labels & nomenclature are not necessarily an indication of actual identity.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

"BAMENDA NA UNA CARRY WE GO NOW NA UNA DI CRY


Posted by: popomustgo "

popomustgo, I feel like smashing your face until it is damaged beyond repair. You know why? because it is people like you who are dragging Cameroon/Africa backwards with all this divisions and hate.

So is every single person in Bamenda responsible for the mistakes of Foncha? where we even born by then? why all this prejudice and stereotypes? this is why Southern Cameroons will never propser because of idiots like you who propagate prejudice.


You are probably living in a one bedroom apartment in Europe or America and everyday you complain about the racism of the white man. Yet, you turn around and do the same thing to your own people. Did you listen to Martin Luther King when he said a man should be judged by the content of his character and not by the color of his skin or in this case, the name of his tribe? did you?

Tribalistic idiot. You better pray I never come in contact with you in real life because I will give you a reason to hate Bamenda.

Mr. Rexon and your SCNC CLAN, I have told you time and time again that the biggest opposition to your cause is not even La Republique but this prejudice and hate and divisions which exists between Southern Cameroons.

Leslie E. NJUME

Hey guys,
we got lots of issues to be occupied with.
Lots of tasks to meet up to.
Lots of ides to exploit and lots of chances to take, if this country of ours must be what we all believe it should be, or what we think it is not(of course thats the reason for our pouring out on this page).
If we must meet these, then gentlemen, u must have realized we have no time for biting and smiling at one another.
If we today want to put the false gov't in order, and talk of how different the two English speaking provinces(sorry, regions as H.E. says) are, and what differential contributions they will offer as two entities in a nation(sure its the SCNC u have in mind), and how one will not need the other for development or survival, then we miss the point big time.
Rexon u even talk of Sweden, at least they got lots of forest reserves and that drives their economy firing, thats even much, think of Denmark, human resources, taxes,...and thats all.
Great point, but will they ever succeed if they have no collaborators,partners i mean, other nations or regions with whom to do business or other joint developmental projects?
if u do not need the SWP, i do.
If u do not the NWP, i do.And dont forget, we all have EQUAL RIGHTS as per the ownership of this nation.
If u donot need the SWP today to survive as the NWP, who can tel:are u from Ngoketunjia?tomorrow u may never need Boyo.
Are u from Menchum?tomorrow u may never need Bui.
Well fans of the peace, lovers of our beloved hard-earned LAND OF PROMISE, lets rise beyond regions, and tribes, and divisions, and villages, to talk of the one nation we so badly need.
Cameroon.
Talk of how to oppose poor governance, corruption, unemployment, marginalisation, nepotism, tribalism and favouritism, and if you prefer, how to enhance decentralisation and kill extreme bureaucracy.
Please, kill your hate and bias.
The time is now.
I like ur contributions.

rexon

Leslie,

You brought a very pertinent point and i believe you got my drift and presented it properly. NW and all the regions of the province will always work with SW as partners not as enemies. Just as Fako will always work with Ndian, Manyu and Menchum as partners and not as enemies. SW is a vast land that involves many tribes and people, just as the NW. If petrol is coming from Ndian, they should be paid royalties and we should not expect the royalties to be used to develop another region without due consultation. However, those who come to Ndian to work should also respect the cultures and values of the people of Ndian. You cited coperation which is very important. Corperation comes from building friendly working relationships with your neighbours and partners. You do not go to their market to exploit and make them look like fools, you make sure your business philosophy is aimed at nothing but to build long lasting relationships. Leslie, i do not have much time on my hands to respond to you better, but i believe you helped reorganise the ideas i was struggling to bring above. I was calling for division, but hoping to make the guy understand that the people of the Southern Cameroons no matter their origin would work as partners and not as expoits.

rexon

correction: this (I was calling for division) should read i wasn't calling ......

UnitedstatesofAfrica

"I was calling for division, but hoping to make the guy understand that the people of the Southern Cameroons no matter their origin would work as partners and not as expoits. "
- Rexon

As usual Rexon, you are still living in a dream. This is what you wish but is it the reality? just look at this forum for example; you have people like this popomustgo fellow, who come here everyday and say that "Bamenda people dem, na wuna cause wa suffer". There is so much prejudice, tribalism and stereotypes between North West Cameroonians and Southerners. So all this talk about a united Southern Cameroons makes me wonder who you are trying to unite. With the current state of things, secession is only a recipe for civil war.

rexon

Unitedstatesofafrica,

To be honest, i believe you fail to understand my position in all this. To summarise, i believe the current Cameroon is constitutionally grounded on falsehood and we need a Southern Cameroons where the people have to be asked to decide on their fate through a referendum. Just like Canada. If they choose to restore their independent statehood, to stay a federation or as a Unitary state through the ballot box, i will have no other option but to accept what the majority wants.

Stay blessed.

mk the southerner

United what? it looks to me like you know this popomustgo or if not. Then he knows you.

Gentlemen in the days of the Southern Cameroons was there anything like North West and South West? Dont you see that fathers have been pitched against sons and sons against fathers?

You are talking and blaming Foncha. I will ask all of you to read the two alternatives again, and you will thank Foncha. Foncha faced two evil and chosed the laser evil. If we hard join Nigeria the story would have been a different thing. But you see on the part of joining La Republique it is written in the two alternatives that we are joining to form a federation.

You would be right to have said Foncha could have joined his friend and ask for the third alternative. But also have your eyes on the situation too per that time.

popomustgo

THIS FORUM IS OPEN TO ALL.AND I WRITE SOMETIME IN "PIDGIN ENGLISH" DOES NOT MAKE ME LESS EDUCATED AND TO BE SPECIFIC "PIDGIN ENGLISH IS MY MOTHER TONGUE".
I HAVE NO HATE AGAINST THE BAMENDAS BUT I HAVE ALOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR NEPOTISM,FAVOURITISM AND TRIBALISM.THE NORTHWESTERNERS SEE US,SOUTHWESTERNERS AS TRAITORS AND ENEMIES BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO CONFRONT THE SO-CALLED PAUL BIYA AND THE LA REPUBLIQUE.THEY HAVE LOUD MOUTHS WHEN IT COMES TO SOUTHWESTERNERS.
WE,SOUTHWESTERNERS KNOW FOR SURE THAT IF WE SHOULD FINALLY HAVE AMBAZONIA,THE LAST BATTLE WILL BE BETWEEN SOUTHWEST AND NORHTWEST.FOR NOW,YOU GUYS ARE PAYING FOR THE SINS OF JOHN NGU FONCHA AND CO.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

poppmustgo,

You are really a prejudiced fool. Who is paying for the sins of Foncha? who? was I born when Foncha was making his decisions? how many "NorthWesterners" influenced and/or forced Foncha to make the decisions he made? so because Foncha is from North West, all NorthWesterners are automatically born guilty huh? What about the other South West politicians who supported Foncha and were Ahidjo loyalists? what about South West traitors? have you forgotten?

You even have the audacity to talk about your concerns with the frequency of tribalism. What concerns? how can you be concerned about something you are propagating? As a NorthWesterner who has lived all his life in buea/limbe, I encounter people like you all the time. Trying to talk sense into your blockhead is virtually impossible. . This is why I can never support a united Southern Cameroons; people like you will ignite a civil war between south west and north west if Southern Cameroons ever secedes from La Republique. Tribalist idiots like you are not my cup of tea. Let the SCNC deal with you since it is their "mission" to unite Southern Cameroons; I won't even waste any iota of my time.

I hope you choke on your prejudice and hate...literally!

rexon

UnitedstatesofAfrica, you are popomustgo. Stop fooling yourself.

UnitedstatesofAfrica

...and rexon, you are still a rambling fool. Anyone who sheds some light on the loopholes in the SCNC history club (which the club has chose to ignore) and Southern Cameroons in general is now me. Find new material, your rhetoric is getting old.

popomustgo

UNITEDSTATESOFAFRICA,

YOU ARE JUST ONE LOCAL BAMENDA VILLAGEOIS.WHY DON'T YOU GO BACK WITH YOUR FELLOW BAMENDAS TO YOUR UNFERTILE AND FAMINE-RIDDEN LAND OF YOUR IN NORTHWEST.YOU BAMENDAS HAVE MANAGE TO SEE SOME LIGHT IN THE COAST AND YOU ARE MAKING NOISE.DON'T WORRY,BAMENDAS,ON THE DAY OF RECKONING WE,SOUTHWESTERNERS WILL HAUL YOUR BAMENDA-ASSES BACK TO WHERE YOU GUYS COME FROM.

simplice

Mr Popomustgo, please express your opinion respectably. This is not a "Matango Club" where anyone pours anything in the name of politics in plantain vocabulary.Give the debate the standard it deserves and refrain from backward tendencies.

mk the southerner

You guys are funny why do u keep responding to this idiot?

Talk other things men other wise you are dancing his dance.

Nkem

My brethrens,

I think I like statements like “BAMENDA NA UNA CARRY WE GO NOW NA UNA DI CRY”  its goes a long way to prove that we have a problem which has to be resolved. Why do we run from it? Or is it evil today to openly decry the fact that two brothers are at battle with other? I do think for a synergy to further exist, these two factions who considered themselves the marginalized need an all awakening congress where cakes and knives are put on the table whereas this type of statement will continue on and on and on.

Don’t we feel we need some sought of a reconciliation congress where we can each point out our errors and look ahead for the brighter way. You don’t solve a problem by not mentioning it, and I know right down our faculties, classrooms people still use this statement “afterall na Bamenda.” What is that suppose to mean? Does it mean anything to you? Have we forgotten that we are unique amongst 10? We need to talk about it.

A friend once said to me: - it is high time the Bamenda man comes and apologized to the Buea man if we are to move forward. I asked why, he said, the unification mafia”Bamenda” and recent change in the constitution “Bamenda”. Do you think he has a point?

Anyway, my concern is about the SDF dropped from the higher judiciary. Very interesting indeed! I long to see the day the SDF will be exposed as a faction of the CPDM, it may hurt you but I have done my own part for this party hoping is a party of change but I was disappointed.

Talking about our country being degraded to a level where we called Paul Biya “tif man” is something to be taking seriously. I remembered hating this guy and would not listen to news or read the papers as one lecturer recommended at the faculty otherwise you should be prepared to entertain a heart attack. I soon discovered that the greatest problem Cameroon face is not Biya or Mvondo… in his place I bet you will do the same. Even in the USA Bush or Obama will appoint someone he knows well, like his present Attorney general. Take a look at the 1996 constitution before the recent amendments adding Biya more powers to his elbows. Most Cameroonians just move around and make noise without knowing what is inside. I tell you, it is category one exhibit of betrayal from our fathers ‘MPs’. Now because of egoistic exigencies they want to decry Biya. It is not Biya who made himself emperor of the empire of Cameroon, we made him through our elected MPs through whom we make our voices heard and to prove their allegiance to him; adopted the so call constitution so that Biya appoints and propose everything about Cameroon. I don’t think until today I am able to point out one violation of the constitution by our president. Unless I am proven otherwise there is none he has made.

SDF should mind their own local business, when they had the opportunity what where they thinking, every time “we have been cheated” even their wives will cheat on them one day. Same with UPC, when they had the ministry Biya was a wonderful president, when “Kodock” was shown the door, he began holding press conferences. Folks do not be blinded with these things we are no longer children and we owe for the sake of Cameroon to cover our nasty attitudes from the public otherwise how we they look at us when we travel out. Lets leave Biya alone and get rid of the funny hand clappers we have as MPs hence appointing people we know we can hold accountable. It is through one of these methods we can banish that constitution conferring your emperor all the powers he has now.

NKEM Belamin
Association of Human Rights and Torture Defenders [AHURTOD]
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rexon

Nkem,

You are managing but one of those their NGO'S whose job is to cover up the truth. You are cursed and u will start porch belly from today from the illicit funds that have been paid to you.

Shame on you.

Nkem

Rexon

I thought this forum provided by the post would be a place where people who have decided to move Cameroon one step further could meet and share best practices. However, I take no offence when someone who is sick and does not know his illness finds comfort in criticizing without a direction as an escape device or as a means to froze down his rage.

I don’t believe people should use such forums to display the inner characteristics of their grown up homes. For I know to be self evident: if a child lives in condemnation, he learns to hate whereas if a child lives in love, he learns to be meek. These are my words!

I believe we seek for a solution to one problem, not propagating hatred which has for over decades lead us to know where. I do believe you are one of those who if given the opportunity, your will go a long way to build a healthy fence around your house. But thank God we understand there are bad seeds and know how to deal with them when the time comes. I don’t want to feel people’s opinions should be treated with offence for only myopic persons would act same, and such a person is not fit for an mission aimed at the struggle of liberation, love and peace as they serve as easy prays to be recruited as “black legs” for they speak only of themselves the result of greed, poverty and hunger. If that is the case with you, then I take no offense for know today that there are three things that kills a man “poverty, misery and ignorance”. You sound as somebody who just don’t know what he wants and I can understand the background from which you speak. But don’t be fooled, if you pretend there is no problem between the people you love so dearly as you claim to do, then you are preaching doom.

I don’t know where I offended you or whether you are SCNC or SDF, but I want to challenge you to revisit your motives for posting in this free forum for I know if it where paid for, many people will not be able to post. Since you are lucky to reach out to the world, please use this opportunity to spread love and peace amongst the wounded Cameroonian people.

Eh lastly, I don’t receive illicit funds and the ones I received, even journalist of the post can tell you what I do with the money. Good luck my friend.

vita

Kindly post constructive criticisms,I think you guyz have started to see somelight back in Cameroon.I was born there and use this chance to express your views.

Happy motherland I miss that place like 'crazy' and hope oneday I will revisit and have some NDOLE,NKUMNKUM,POISSON BRAISER,ETC.

Happy new year from the Diaspora

simplice

Vita wrote:
"Happy motherland I miss that place like 'crazy' and hope oneday I will revisit and have some NDOLE,NKUMNKUM,POISSON BRAISER,ETC"
So belly oriented delicacies and alimentary needs now justify the love for a fatherland?. Humm, can all these not be eaten in the diaspora Vita?. Where is your point?. Is it to show the forum you're based in the diaspora, as your rightly betray:" Happy new year from the Diaspora"(to use your own words).
Vita, the kitchen and food, remain the first article of your faith in your fatherland. Shame

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