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Monday, 19 January 2009

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mk the southerner

I was really being carried by you Dr, but when you stated talking about Southwest/Northwest Regional struggle. I saw some limitations in you. Solve your problems without bringing our two provinces into it.

Tekum Mbeng

Dr. Jerry Etabong Esua is clearly frustrated by the distrust of people he co-opted to his project.

He gave them trust and made them powerful. Now, his colleagues want to ruin him, perhaps for a few weaknesses. Again, this is a failure of human relations underscored by an inability to resolve differences professionally and forgive one another.

rexon

This is quite disturbing. I am appalled by the turnaround of this very good project. I have met alot of Europeans who have worked in Africa who have confessed that two Black people can't work effectively together. This sort of events goes further to comfirm their hypothesis.

While i believe the director as the brain behind the project should be respected for his business and professional acumen, he should not hold claim to the hospital, granting that it was financed enclusively from private donations. He brought the idea, other people brought in alot of money. If he wanted to open an exclusively private hospital where he is accountable to nobody, he should'nt have created an NGO to support him raise funds from other angles. If he did that, then he should be directly accountable to the NGO in Italy.

Accusing the Yongabi's that they photocopied documents without his knowledge and forwarded to the professor does not make sense. While he have every right to sense some form of conspiracy granting that the documents were forwarded without his knowledge, i do expect Prof Rosconi (all things being equal) to have got copies of those documents, if he is genuine in his transactions with them. In such vein, whatever the Yongabi's were struggling to do (whether to sabotage him or what) would'nt have paid of. Documents were photocopied, and so what? Was the information in the documents tempered with? Moreover, the director accused the Yongabi's of struggling to create a family business when he also had his younger sister "probably as his eye" employed in the hispital. In such vein, he should not accuse anyone of trying to create a family business. They both seems to have nursed disturbing intentions.

While i sympatise with the director, I do not expect a learned doctor like himself to start referencing events in the 90's as justification for his problems with the Yongabi's. One cannot discount mafia at play here, probably from any of the quarters. Though the director started presenting his side of the story quite clearly, reading between the lines makes the whole story quite disturbing. Why bring in the NW/SW issue here? Moreover, they have lived with the Yongabi's in Italy and have probably been friends. What actually went wrong? Why this sudden fall-out? It is an issue between two families than have probably known each other for quite a while and they should resolve it amicably. Except there are some hidden motives.

Cheers.

Danny Boy

Rexon,
for once I congratulate you. Do you know that I did not look at this story from your perspective? Maybe you are wrong but if your analysis holds true, one can now begin to understand the reasons for this impasse. It was an NGO afterall, with foreign donors and all other stakeholders! Let us hope the various factions will come up with an amicable solution, to the benefit of the people they all wished to serve.
As for MK the Southerner's input, I am appalled, for this simple reason. The affable Doctor makes a statement of fact and he is held to task! The NW/SW divide is a reality and there will always be comparisons made. Esua's assertion that there are more private, mission hospitals of quality, in the NW, is a statement of fact. A truism that politics cannot deny. It must be this that inspired him, as an individual, a Doctor and with the nous to make a difference socially! In the Diaspora, most Elites And Associations are looking for such pathways to develop our communities. Dr. Esua deserves special praises.
Blessed be Cameroon.

andre fokam

This is Another evidence that " every people deserve its leader". These guys (i don't care who is at fault) are doing the same thing our rulers are doing. in their fight, no one care for the people and the sicks. the same behavior that our leaders display. Is there hope for Africa?

Taku

Weh,Cameroon and Cameroonians when are we ever going to learn to move forward?When are we going to realise that its not how many degrees you collect that makes you a learned person?That it is your mental attitude towards life that matters. When are we going to wake up and know that the whiteman and the UN cannot rebuild our Country?Oh i fear for our nation.Why do we fight and quarrel with each other?This is a hospital built for the people by its own people yet the same people bring it down?Was it built for service or to make money?What happened to giving back?I think if we are passionate about what we do and do it diligently then we will have little or no time for quarrels.Let us look beyond the lines of provinces and tribe surely its our country.Let us the young generation who have gone to schools abroad not work with the same mental attitudes of our leaders.Let us set a new pace.Greed,anger,corruption and deceit only destroys it does not build.Dont be influenced by our leaders they are on the wrong side of history and surely will be judged.That which your hand can find to do,Do it and do it with assion and the fear of God and not with ulterior motives.

Randy Michael

Dokta,
Please stick to what you are good at - taking care of the sick. You seem to have spoilt a good case with your childish utterances about the NW/SW divide

DR TAN OF CAMEROON

DEAR ALL
KUMBA AS USUAL. AT ONE POINT I WAS TOLD KUMBA HAS GONE AHEAD OVER BAMENDA , AS THE CITY WITH THE HIGHEST CRIME RATE.
CRIME IS A SOCIAL INDEX IN THE SOCIOCULCULRAL MAKE UP OF A PEOPLE . THESE ARE SOME OF THE REASONS THAT MAKE PEOPLE KILL , BURN, DESTROY OTHERS, WHICH SHOULD NEVER BE. DRS ESUA AND NDAKA SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTNG, AND THOSE WHO ARE FLAMING IT FROM THEIR DIFFERENT INTEREST POSITIONS SHOULD STOP.
AS A FORMRER, CHAIRMAN FOR HEALTH, FOR SWELA, I W3AS INTERVIEWED, BY A CAMEROONIAN DAILY, THAT WANTED TO KNOW , WEATHER THE PHYSICIAN WHO DID THE POSTMORTEM, HAD DONE SOME PREMEDITAED WRONG OVER THE REMAINS OF LATE BARRISTER ESSEME , I TRIED TO PUT TRIBAL[BAFAW] SENTIMENTS ,AWAY, AND ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS OBJECTIVELY , ACCORDING TO MEDICAL SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, ESPECIALLY SO , BECAUSE , THE QUESTIONS WERE FRAMED IN A SUGGESTIVE MANNER. JOURNALISTB CAN PUT WORDS IN YOUR , MOUTH, ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE OF THE SOUTHWEST DESTRUCT5IVE SORTS LIKE THE HERON, WHICH I HAD PROPHESIED HOW IT WILL END.
WHAT DO WE NED TO CLARIFIED HERE,
1 WHO IS QUAIFIED TO PRACTICE , MEDICINE IN CAMEROON, A LOT OF THOSE ITALIAN TRAINED DOCTORS ARE, NOT REGISTERED WITH THE MEDICAL COUNCIL, I HOPE THESE TWO ARE.[HAVE THEIR NUMBERS WITH THE MEDICAL ORDER OF CAMEROON HEADED BY DR MUNA] LOTS OF PEOPLE WITH 2E GRADES IN ADVANCED LEVEL PAPERS HAD ADMISSION INTO MEDICAL SCHOOLS IN ITALY. I VISITED PADUAR AND TALKED WITH SOME PEOPLE. CAN THEY MAKE GOOD DOCTORS , YES, IF THEY APPLY THEM SELVES TO THEIR STUDIES , AND BACK THEIR SKILL ACQUISITION WITH BOOARD CERTIFICATION. YOU DONOT TRY AND ERROR IN MEDICINE, THAT IS NOT POLITICS.
2 WHAT IS A HOSPITAL IN CAMEROON, WHAT IS A CLINIC, WHAT IS A HEALTH CENTER, AND WHO CAN OPEN WHAT, AND WHAT ARE THEIR LIMITATTIONS IN TERMS OF PRACTICE[MALPRACTICE ISSUES]. IN KUMBA , THERE ARE NURSE AIDS, MEDICAL TECHNICIANS , WARD SERVANTS, PHYSICIAN ASSISITANTS, SPIRITUALIST AND HERBALISTS OPENING ALL TYPES OF THINGS ,CALLING THEM CLINIC, HOSPITALS, HEALTHCENTER ECT. MOST.TIMES THEY ARE SPECIALIZED IN ABORTION. KILLING UNBORN BABIES AND ALSO YOUNG GIRLS , FROM COMPLICATIONS. A PROFESSOR OF OBS/GYN CAN CAUSE THE DEATH OF A PERSON IF HE DOES A N OPERATION IN A FACILITY , WITH POOR FACILTIES, TO MANAGE THE CASE. SO LET US NOT FINISH KILLING OUR SELVES IN THE NAME OF POVERTY. AND THE PEOPLE[MASSES].
SO FOR DR ESUA AND NDAKA , TH ASSU MPTION IS THAT , YOU ARE BOTH REGISITERD WITH THE CAMEROONIAN MEDICAL ORDER?
HEALTH CARE SECTOR, HOW2 DO WE LLOK AT IT
1 SOCIAL ENDEAVOR
2 A CALLING
3 FOR PROFIT
THE CATEGORIZATION ABOVE , WILL HELP DETERMINE , WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH HERE.
IN THE ITALY, WITH A SOCIALIST FOUNDATION OF MEDICINE AND TRAINING, A LOT OF PRACTICE IS DONE ON THE SOCIAL [GOVERNMENTAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM] AND PRIVATE SECTOR NONPROFITS LIKE MISSION HEALTH CARE INSTITUTIONS AND COMMUNITY FOUNDATIONS[ASSOCIATIONS].
THERE IS ALSO THE FOR PROBIF SECTORS[BUSINNESSES].
DR ESUA, SEAM NOT TO HAVE UNDERSTOOD, WHAT HE WANTED TO OPEN. HE SAYS AS HE WAS ASKING FOR FUNDS , DONNORS WANTED HIM TO FORM A NON PROFIT [NGO]. THE DONNORS WANTED TO PIN HIM DOWN, AND TO AN EXTEND MAKE HIM LOOSE A LOT OF HIS INDEPENDENCE, WHICH HE SEAM TO BE FIGHTING FOR NOW. THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH NIS BANK CAMEROON.
MOST DOCTORS DO NOT TAKE MANANEMENT COURESE S IN SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY WILL NOT NEED IT. BUT THIS IS POORLY A MANAGEMENT, PROBLEM BASED ON CONFLICT OF INTEREST, IN A REGISTERED HEALTH NON PROFIT
SOME PEOPLE RUN BUSINESSES IN CAMEROON AS NON PROFITS, BECAUSE, THEY DONOT WANT TO PAY TAXES. BUT THERE IS NO NON PROFIT IN THE WORLD THAT DOES NOT PAY SOME FORM OF TAXES.
THESE IS NOT A BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP, THAT YOU SAY YOUR FRIEND , WANTS TO GET YOU OUT OF YOUR BUSINESS YOU STARTED , THIS IS A FOUNDATION , AS WE CALL IT IN AMERICA[NON PROFIT]. THERE LEGAL FOUNDATION AND MANAGEMENT OF A FOUNDATION IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF A FOR PROFIT BUSINESS.
YOU SUMMITTED A CONSTITUTION AND BILAWAS THAT QUIDE YOUR OPERATIONS, WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, INCASE , YOU EVER HAD A LICENSE FROM THE PRESIDENCY TO START, ACCORDING TO CAMEROON. OR WERE YOU RUNNING A N ASPECT5 OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCHES , NON PROFIT YOU CALL YOUR OWN. SINCE YOU ARE CALLING THE NAME S OF MEN OF GOD. WHO OWN YOUR LICENSE?
A FOUNDATIONSTARTS WITH THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OR TRUSTEES.
THEY DRAW BILAW, BASED ON THEIR VISION AND VALUES[YOU MAY BE THE VISIONARY], BUT NO ONE MAN EVER IS KNOWN TO OWN A NON PROFIT OR FOUNDATION OR ASSOCIATION BY LAW.
THE BOARD, APPOINTS A AN EXECUTIVE TEAM WITH A DIRECTOR OR MANAGER, AND REVIEWS, THE OUTPUT INTERMS OF GOALS RELIZATION AND ACHIEVEMENT. SO YOU CAN BE THE PRESIDENT, YOU COULD BE THE DIRECTOR , AND OR C.E.O O OF A NON PROFIT YOU HELP FOUND, BUT COULD ALSO LOOSE ALL THOSE POSSITIONS BY LAW, BASDED ON THE DECISIONS OF MEMEBERS OF THE BOARD. IS A SYSTEM THAT THE GOV,T ABUSES, BECAUSE DECISIONS AND INDIVIDUALS MOST ALWAYS BE INDEPENDENT, TO MPROTECT DONNOR CONTRIBUTIONS.
FROM THE ABOVE, COULD DR NDAKA , BE FOUND COMPLETELY RIGHT, IF SHE KNEW THE STATUS , OF THE ORGANISATION, YES. YOU MAY GO TO COURT, YOU DR EZUA IS COMPLETELY AT FAULT , OVER THIS , EVEN IF YOU , YOU WREE , SO TO SAY THE VISIONARY[NON PROFITS[, IN REAL LIFE HAVE MANY PEOPLE AS FOUNDERS[FIRST BOARD]
THE WAY YOU SEAM TO BE DEFFENDING YOUR CASE TELL ME , YOU ARE NOT TO CONFIDENCE, ICAN NOT JUST BE DISMISSED , FROM , WHAT I STARTED, YES, YOU CAN BE DISMISSED , IF IT,S A FOUNDATION.
THEY WANT TO TURN IT TO A BUSINESS, YOU SHOULD KNOW THEY CANNOT IF YOU HAVE LEGAL PAPERS, SHOWING IT,S A NON PROFIT.
HOW COULD YOUR FRIENDS GET YOU OUT.
1 DECIEVE , AND BRING IN PEOPLE LOYAL TO THEM IN THE BOARD, WHO MAY HAVE A MAJORITY VOTE, AND THROUGH INTRIGUES FOUNDED ON TRIBE, RACE, SEX, RELIGION, OTHER INTERESTS, DEMOCRATICALLY VOTE OUT ALL YOUR INTEREST IN A NON PROFIT YOU CLAIM YOU FOUNDED.
2 HOLD YOU DOWN ON ANY ILLEGALLITY THAT MAY BE FOUNDED IN YOUR OPERATIONS.

WHAT ADVICE DO I GIVE YOU.

1 CONSIDER THE CONSIDERATIONS ABOVE AND MAKE SURE YOU ARE OPERATING WITHIN THE LAW .
2 CALL YOUR NORTH WEST FRIENDS , AND TALK IT OVER AS A MEMBERS OF THE MEDICAL FAMILY. REMEMEBER THE THE MEDICAL OATH, WE TAKE , IT SAYS OUR COLLEAQUES ARE FAMILY TO US. COMMON GROUND.BOTH OF YOU WILL LOOSE OUT IF YOU DONOT COME TO AN AMICABLE SETTLEMENT.
3 ARE YOU JUSTTIFIED, TO FEEL THAT , NORTH WEST, SOUTH WEST NONSENSE , MAY HAVE PLAYED A PART TO YOUR DIFFERENCES, IT MAY BE , BUT YOU CANNOT PROOF IT, IT DOES NOT ALSO HELP YOUR CASE. SHOULD YOU APPOLOGIZED TO ANYBODY, NO. THIS NORTHWEST SOUTHWEST DIVIDE NONSENSE , IS PART OF THE REASONS WHY ANGLOPHONES ARE WERE THEY ARE TODAY.
IF PARLIAMENTARIANS ARE NOT SAYING SOUTHWESTERNERS ARE MARGINALISING THEM[PM],SOUTHWESTERNERS ARE CALLING PEOPLE CAM NO GO, IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. THE SAD THING IS THOSE WHO PROMOTE AND BENEFIT THE MOST FROM IT , ARE THOSE WHO COMPLAINT THE MOST EACH TIME EVIDENCES ARE PR3ESENTED TO BE DISCUSSED. IT TOOK OBAMA TO TALK ABOUT RACE IN AMERICA , WHEN THOSE WHO BENEFIT FROM IT, ALWAYS WANTS US TO PRETEND IT DOES NOT EXIST.
GLORIA JUA IS MY RELATIVE AND SO HER CHILDREN.
BANYEH IS MY SON, MY COUSINS AND BROTHER ARE IN LITTORAL AND CENTER. TO HELL WITH THIS DIVIDE NONSENSE. I AM THE CORDINATOR OF SWELA USA, IS THERE A NW/SW DIVIDE PROBLEM, YES, CAN WE OVERCOME IT, YES WE CAN, LET US TALK ABOUT IT.

DR [REV] THOMPSON AKWO NTUBA MD, Ph.D
drntuba@yahoo.com

Lord Marshall

My dear brothers and sisters,
Reading this article truly breaks my heart. There are lots of things I would love to say but, there is something that both parties are not telling us. There is more to the story than we know.
The curse. “No one would dispute the fact that there are many geniuses among us--in fact, each Cameroonian strongly and sincerely believes that he or she is an authentic genius. But for some strange reason, this belief does not get translated into any clear improvement of life in Cameroon. How can you have a country of 18 million geniuses where nothing works properly”?
One of the things that kill some of us Cameroonians is our lack of judgment. We let our emotions cloud our judgments. I still don’t understand how our good doctor would employ an unqualified individual to run a hospital. Also, how CFA167million will disappear and for 2 years, no action taken. I thought financial statements are done every quarter.
We are one people, (Cameroonians). This thing of NW/SW, Anglophone, francophone, Southern Cameroon; should be laid to rest. We as a people should rise above our individualism and pettiness and fight for the common good of our beloved nation Cameroon. Our nationality is our identity. "The past isn't dead and buried. In fact, it isn't even past." We do not need to recite the history of tribalism and injustice in Cameroon. But we do need to remind ourselves that so many of the disparities that exist in our Cameroonian community today can be directly traced to inequalities passed on from an earlier generation that suffered the ills of tribalism.

MOTABENAMA

MR THOMPSON AKWO NTUBA. I AM VERY CERTAIN THAT WHAT YOU ARE WRITING HERE IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT. THERE IS A LOT OF RAMBLING IN YOUR INSCRIPTIONS MUCH TO THE EXTENT THAT ONE CAN DO NOTHING BUT BEGIN TO IMAGINE WHETHER YOU YOURSELF IS A PSEUDO DOCTOR OR A TRUE ONE AS YOU TRY TO MAKE IT TO LOOK. YOU MUST BEAR IN MIND THAT WHAT YOU WRITE HERE IS MORE OR LESS BEING READ BY A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM ALL ACADEMIC SPERES OF LIFE SO ALWAYS DO YOUR BEST TO WRITE IN A COHERENT, PRECISE AND COMMUNICATIVE MANNER SO THAT YOUR AUDIENCE AND OR READERS WILL GET A GRASP OF WHAT YOU INTEND YTO TRNSCEND.

Chief Whip

Dr Esua, you spoiled a good case when you brought in that NW/SW nonesense.

You have lost my sympathy.
Poor you.

The Whip

Fon.

Like many others have mentioned, I had a lot concern for Dr. Esua at the begining of the story, but became so disappointed with his rambling about NW/SW.
Can Yonghabi and wife represent the NW?

Fon.

From the issue of NW/SW,I can read his mind and mentality with some good precision. He must be the cause of his problems

mk the southerner

Motabenama Will you please take your time again and re-read what Mr Thompson have written? If you do, you may be ashamed of what you have just said.

Polonium 2-10

All this fraustrated Asylum sickers, please try to read carefully and then react in a more mature way.
Dr Esua you dont know him, he is neither from Kumba nor is he from Bamenda.
What did he said which is wrong in his analysis? The Dr clearly sympathise with the people of kumba saying they do not have the same institution when it comes to medical facilities as compared to the North west province; What is wrong in that?
From your reactions it is clear that you guys are from Bamenda exhibiting your tribalistic ways of reasoning.
Every single story on the net you bring SCNC into it, you make the whole strugle looks like a joke why others are dying in jail in Cameroon. the idiot so call Whip; can you form an NGO, or can you stand in a population of two persons and address them?
If you know you are fighting for Southern Cameroon put your name when writing and please write what is needed under the required heading.
SCNC is not a tool use for joking if you dont know please. Mr Whip this is the last warning I am giving to you and all those who use Southern Cameroon strugle as a joke under headings which dont really matters or related.

I wish you all well,

Poloniun 2-10

Polonium 2-10

Rexon how are you man? Happy new. Long time.How is Tayong doing too. Men I wish to read from you when you are chanced. I am planing a trip to the UK hope we meet this time.
I know you are very bussy in school.

Have a nice day Rex.

Polonium 2-10 (the cure).

UnitedstatesofAfrica

MK the Southerner

The truth of the matter is there is a startling and sharp regional struglle between the SOuth Westerners and North Westerners. Don't blame Dr. Esua for exposing the reality which we should all know by now. If we Anglophones want to free ourselves from La Republique, we need to fight as a united front...not a divided one. The sooner we start addressing this NW/SW divide the better. As the cliche goes, in unity is strength.

And this is my problem with the moronic SCNC bulldogs on this forum like Rexon, Ma Mary and of course MK the SOutherner. Together with their history club (SCNC), they have chosen to ignore this issue and sugar coat the facts. How can you sail with no paddle? why can a car work with no engine? and you wonder why your pressure group is producing no results. The SDF is already a major distraction in our Anglophone struggle. The last thing we need is another distraction like the SCNC and their utopian sermons dragging us behind. Luckily enough, anglophones do not give a rat shit about the SCNC.

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