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gimme a break

Hi Prof;

Biya has failed Cameroon. You too in my opinion has failed Cameroon. Remember Morgan Tsangerai? Fire eating, democratic pusher of Zimbabwe. What path did you and Fru Ndi choose? Chicken hawks. You and other opposition members think democracy and freedom can be won by the cheap and easy way ut. No way sir. If you cannot stake your life like Mandela, Dr King, Ghandi, Morgan, Sankara, and a host of others for freedoms sake, then spare us this foolish and knee jerk response to Biya,s useless year end prpaganda. You, like Fru Ndi are cowards, traitors of the highest degree. You imagine Biya handing the key to you as the late hausa man did. Freedomg is not free. Hiding in your room and sending out this response to a dying president wouldn't cut it. I and other fellow Cameroonians have accepted this scar on our nation called Biya. 27 something years of bad history. Do not add to our pain by reminding us you and that Ntarikon resident chickened at when the hour was almost upon us. Istead fighting Biya, you turn weapon against each other and allowed the thief from Mvomeka escape. You have constantly responded to Biya's year end messages as if, that will solve the problem. Spare us this Mongo Beti comparisons. Kindergarten-like comparsisons to say the least.

The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc.

...there is a simplistic repeated nonsense, parroted in diverse media outlets, in comparing African states and Asian republics: Malaysia to South Korea...

...this fraudulent simplicity ignores the autocratic dictatorial history of especially South Korean, by persons whom by the very essence of their public comments would not have been able to live in, and take the heat of the dictators of South Korea, aided and abetted by western governments, that in the last 50 yrs pumped in resources to make developments in Mao's China and Kim Il Jung's North Korea to look primitive....

The developments of these states have been catalysed by both internal and external destiny, and more importantly by the blessing of their geography.

Here is a quick glance of the paths of the most cherished Korean state: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_South_Korea

Ras Tuge

Professor do nothing but weep over spilled milk. Knowledge without integrity is useless and dangerous. Mr. Asonganyi is just as empty-headed as the notorious Mr. Bernard Nsokkika Fumblelon. To hell with you all!

ntahoh boniface

The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc., you got it wrong again. There is nothing wrong with dictatorship that leads to development as South Korea and Malayia have done to their respective countries. In fact that is what precisely would happen if Cameroon were to throw off its shackles of underdevelopment. Is there anything wrong when a head of state, by virtue of his dictatorial powers, ask Cameroonians to build a bridge or a road that would be used by fellow Cameroonians?
Dictatorship that leads to economic development is the right thing for Africans, especially to Cameroonians, where laziness, corruption and embezzlement have all combined to destroy the country.
Ghana today stands as a country that many African countries would have to follow its example. But remember that Jerry Rawlings spearheaded this development in Ghana by virtue of his dictatorial stance on a number of issues that had plaqued Ghana before his emergence on the national scene.

kavava


I don't think Cameroonians are ready to welcome another Messiah. We have bare the burden for quite a while and are quite close to the dawn of a new epoch. We don't need recycled officials,as potrayed in the present regime and the organisation you represent. We need fresh and innovative brains, people who can contribute and accomodate changes within a societal, rather than personal context.
So Prof., please spare us with such writhings, they make very little or no changes to the views the majority of Cameroonians accomodate about some selfish stomach politician like Fru Ndi and Clique (You included) and others

A New Movement, shall build an opposition come 2011 that shall deliver the nation from the hands of the current political junta.

Stay blessed

The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc.

...How sweat is it for Boniface to pat dictatorship on the back, because you were not one of those killed by Rawlings or who rotted in the Malaysian and South Korean jails, whilst 30.000 US troops stationed on the peninsula watched, and even participated in the raping their women!

gimme a break

When i responded to this prof's missive, i was expecting a backlash. But it appears we're approaching the same conlcusion here. Every living, well meaning Cameroonian, despice Biya and yes the opposition. Why should we not despise and even pray for the death of this man. But while we silently pray for his demise, and the demise of friends who have joined in ransacking the country, dear Prof Tazoacha whatever, go away and hide in the lebialem hills. I equally wish John Fru Ndi goes away as well. While we wait impatiently for GOd's response to our prayer, we consider you and similar folks totally and completely irrelevant.

Va Boy

Prof Asonganyi, thanks for writing the truth, instead of SDF self deceptions about the failed union.

Ras Tuge of Stockholm, Sweden. Hypocrite. STFU about "babylon" while you are sucking her big, sweet breasts.

Entrepreneuronline, the groveling Biya ass kisser with genocidal fantasies and murmurings. Why do you provide cover for the thieving incompetent who makes the same stupid speech every year? You dismiss the achievements of South Korea. FYI, the period when South Korea was dominated by the economically high achieving dictators was the same period when Cameroun was controlled by France and brutal mass murderer called Amadou Ahidjo. No difference in brutality. It could be argued that Ahidjo was worse.

Fast forward today. Korea has a genuine democracy and an activist population AND a first world economy. La repubic has a dictator playing games. See what the South Koreans did to one of their ex presidents who was a crook http://tech.mit.edu/V116/N35/korea.35w.html
They sentenced his corrupt ass to death in a properly constituted court.

Va Boy

Entrepreneuronline. If ever there is genocide activity on our Southern Cameroons we shall pursue you and people like Emmanuel Konde for your role. Keep writing that shit.

ntahoh boniface

The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc., you still don't get it right. There are two types of dictatorships; one is geared towards economic development, which is precisely what South Korea and Malaysia have done to their respective economies. On the other hand, what has Amadu Ahidjo or Biya's dictatorships done to an average Cameroonian? NOTHING. There lies the difference. These two regimes, the Biya or Ahidjo regimes, have equally killed and maimed a number of its own citizens for nothing to show for at the end of the day.
It is always easy to be deluded, apparently because you currently live in the U.S., to throw words around about dictatorships without fully understanding how it’s been used in various countries on this planet.
A few years ago, the U.S. and Singapore, one of the countries, that you seem not to understand its dictatorial style, had a quarrel because a U.S. citizen while in Singapore, littered one of its streets with banana skins. In the uproar that followed, the U.S. citizen was ordered to receive some lashes as punishment for the crime of littering the street. Of course, based on your comments, I take it that you would consider the Singaporean response to littering as dictatorial, won't you? Singapore is very clean country, its streets immaculately clean, but if you consider its tough style on those who litter its street as dictatorial, then you are really up to something else. Punishment to those who litter the streets is just a small part of the whole picture as it concerns Singapore. The same draconian response is applicable to various areas in that country.

Do you remember WAI (War against Indiscipline) in Nigeria a few years ago? Based on your response, you would have taken that to be dictatorship. But it was dictatorship for the benefit of all Nigerians. And if you talk to any Nigerian today, he or she will tell you that it was good time for the whole country, and that Nigeria would be better off today if it had those same people managing the country. Drugs dealers and other criminals were punished severely during that period.

You made mention of about 30,000 U.S. troops who stood by and watched, and even participated, in the raping of women. I take you back again to Cameroon and its own military. Is there anything to be proud of with regard to Cameroon military? It rapes and kills its own citizens without any response from its own government. And what again, has an average Cameroonian gained from the wanton behavior of its own military? NOTHING. Only poverty, disease spread by some its soldiers etc

On the other hand, point out any U.S. military personnel who raped a Korean woman 50 years later, and you would sure get a response from the U.S. government. The response would be swift and drastic. Haven't you seen how many of the U.S. military personnel have gone to jail, because of their behavior while in Iraq? At the end of the day, South Korea is a better place to live even with the dictatorial style that you seem not to differentiate with that of Cameroon.

Think for a second, given what has transpired in Cameroon over the last 50 years of its independence, that were the two regimes (Biya and Ahidjo) to apply the same style of governance as the Singaporeans’ or Korean, Cameroon would be a nice place to live.

My friend, please take some time and do your research properly before you come to this forum. You seem not to get it right from my reading of your comments. It is always easy to heap words here and there without fully having a grasp of the issues involved. THERE IS DICTATORSHIP JUST FOR THE SAKE OF STAYING IN POWER, THE CAMEROON STYLE, AND THERE IS DICTATORSHIP FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE, COMMON IN SOUTH KOREA AND THE OTHER SOUTH EAST ASIAN COUNTRIES. WHICH ONE DO YOU PREFER?

gimme a break

Mr. ntahoh boniface is right on the point. To think otherwise is lunacy. Can anyone call China a democracy?. But they're emerging as the strongest economy at the moment. Infact, people are still publicly executed by firing squad; i am opposd to this except under limited circumstances. I will rather live in China a grave dictatorship than live in Cameroon, a hell. You can disagree all you want, but democracy does not bring about development. I rather have a progressive dictator than a thieving closeted self styled democrat such as your mvomeka monster.

The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc.

...Boniface, why don't you apply those tough draconian measures of WAI to your household and village? You have the capacity to start somewhere and be a living example....to 25 million Cameroonians.....After all, a nation starts from a family !

asafor

Gimme a break, you and others have said it all,Freedom is not awarded, and it will never be.Permit me go down memory lane,to recollect the good old days of Community Development or community work. Man, every community member had to contribute in nation building,Building local bridges,Community hall,Schools.

Infact,even strangers were force to contribute,Sanitary officers used to come around to inspect our local toilets,if not clean you were penalized in one way or the other.Today the Mvomeka unique style has destroyed every good thing we had.

Men of honour and intergrity, untill we espoused the Taliban method of blowing up Government officials in Cameroon, then we shall wait from God to talk.2011 is very close something must be done now Gimme

Dr A A Agbormbai

While a few examples can be quoted where dictatorship has worked, the fact remains that it is a very risky form of government to rely on for success. This is probably why South Korea, Malaysia, and Singapore decided to move on to democracies. Democracy is safer and is more assured.

The problem with dictatorships really comes from human nature. Human nature is intrinsically bad, and therefore the probability of the wrong person getting to the top of a dictatorship is extremely high.

Put the wrong person at the top and you only get trouble for the country. Dictatorships are inherently failures - if not now then later. They may succeed at some stage in the life of a country, but if they are allowed to persist they will create problems.

On the other hand, democracies are stable and create a WIN-WIN solution for all citizens when properly formulated. Their safety and reliability derives from their ability to cope with both good and bad leaders.

Good leaders will produce the goods by harnessing the collective intelligence of the nation and channelling it into productive outcomes.

Bad leaders will be quickly discovered (from their prevailing poor performance or conduct) and quickly sacked through a VOTE-OF-NO-CONFIDENCE procedure that is built into the constitution, or though IMPEACHMENT procedures.

These procedures will be activated for serious cases of incompetence, misdeeds, etc. For mild cases, the leader will simply get one term of office and then be VOTED OUT by the people when he or she attempts to gain another term.

So, a robust, well-thought-out, well-oiled democracy by far exceeds a dictatorship and produces harmonious outcomes for all citizens.

If Cameroon were a well-founded democracy Paul Biya would have been forced out of the scene decades ago, and Cameroon would have been spared its humiliation.

It is this ability of a democracy to correct itself, without needing the goodwill of a particular person, that makes it such a robust and productive system. This ability has been exploited several times (to stay on course) by the well-founded democracies of the world, a good example of which is the UK.

On this note, I shall point out that I am not the greatest fan of the US democratic system. I don't think it is well-founded. When I spent 2 1/4 years in the US recently I had the occasion to experience its democratic system in action, as Obama overcame hurdles to become President.

I even feel that the weaknesses that I found in the system are fundamental to the Presidential system of governance, and would be found in other countries that had such a system.

I was very shocked by the low moral standards of the US when compared to the UK. Also, George Bush was an incompetent President who caused great damage to the country, yet the democratic system allowed him to rule for two terms! We all know what this caused for the US nation and the world.

I personally believe that the uncritical, sales-promotion oriented nature of the US Press was responsible for the failure of the system. And believe me, I saw with my own eyes that, in spite of all the problems, the system would have failed again and brought another Republican (John McCain) to power. McCain's policies were only marginally different from Bush's.

Do you know what this could have done to the US, a nation of hot heads? Possibly, civil war due to economic hardship!

By the way...

Note that taking draconian measures against an offender (as someone cited above with Singapore) does not make a nation a dictatorship. Draconian measures are EXAMPLE-SETTERS and are designed to SCARE people from an offence or to discourage repeat-offenders.

Such measures can be effective attributes of a democracy. In fact, I prefer them because they change behaviour very quickly. On the other hand, they must be used sparingly and with considerable care and thought.

Dr A A Agbormbai

While a few examples can be quoted where dictatorship has worked, the fact remains that it is a very risky form of government to rely on for success. This is probably why South Korea, Malaysia, and Singapore decided to move on to democracies. Democracy is safer and is more assured.

The problem with dictatorships really comes from human nature. Human nature is intrinsically bad, and therefore the probability of the wrong person getting to the top of a dictatorship is extremely high.

Put the wrong person at the top and you only get trouble for the country. Dictatorships are inherently failures - if not now then later. They may succeed at some stage in the life of a country, but if they are allowed to persist they will create problems.

On the other hand, democracies are stable and create a WIN-WIN solution for all citizens when properly formulated. Their safety and reliability derives from their ability to cope with both good and bad leaders.

Good leaders will produce the goods by harnessing the collective intelligence of the nation and channelling it into productive outcomes.

Bad leaders will be quickly discovered (from their prevailing poor performance or conduct) and quickly sacked through a VOTE-OF-NO-CONFIDENCE procedure that is built into the constitution, or though IMPEACHMENT procedures.

These procedures will be activated for serious cases of incompetence, misdeeds, etc. For mild cases, the leader will simply get one term of office and then be VOTED OUT by the people when he or she attempts to gain another term.

So, a robust, well-thought-out, well-oiled democracy by far exceeds a dictatorship and produces harmonious outcomes for all citizens.

If Cameroon were a well-founded democracy Paul Biya would have been forced out of the scene decades ago, and Cameroon would have been spared its humiliation.

It is this ability of a democracy to correct itself, without needing the goodwill of a particular person, that makes it such a robust and productive system. This ability has been exploited several times (to stay on course) by the well-founded democracies of the world, a good example of which is the UK.

On this note, I shall point out that I am not the greatest fan of the US democratic system. I don't think it is well-founded. When I spent 2 1/4 years in the US recently I had the occasion to experience its democratic system in action, as Obama overcame hurdles to become President.

I even feel that the weaknesses that I found in the system are fundamental to the Presidential system of governance, and would be found in other countries that had such a system.

I was very shocked by the low moral standards of the US when compared to the UK. Also, George Bush was an incompetent President who caused great damage to the country, yet the democratic system allowed him to rule for two terms! We all know what this caused for the US nation and the world.

I personally believe that the uncritical, sales-promotion oriented nature of the US Press was responsible for the failure of the system. And believe me, I saw with my own eyes that, in spite of all the problems, the system would have failed again and brought another Republican (John McCain) to power. McCain's policies were only marginally different from Bush's.

Do you know what this could have done to the US, a nation of hot heads? Possibly, civil war due to economic hardship!

By the way...

Note that taking draconian measures against an offender (as someone cited above with Singapore) does not make a nation a dictatorship. Draconian measures are EXAMPLE-SETTERS and are designed to SCARE people from an offence or to discourage repeat-offenders.

Such measures can be effective attributes of a democracy. In fact, I prefer them because they change behaviour very quickly. On the other hand, they must be used sparingly and with considerable care and thought.

ntahoh boniface


Insolence, as they say, is the armor of the weak, and you’ve just shown how weak you are when it comes to invigorating arguments. Do you think the problem with Cameroon is that families are not well organized? An average Cameroonians struggles each day to provide for his or her family; manages to send his or her children to good schools. But tell what good comes out from the government? Problems do come when the government is involved. It is very easy to visit someone in Cameroon today who has struggled and built a nice home for his or her family, but the roads, the government responsibility, to get to these homes is always a problem. While in these homes, water or electricity,( still the responsibilities of the government) are still lacking.

Please read again before you get to this forum.

ntahoh boniface

Entrepreneur Newsonline,Insolence, as they say, is the armor of the weak, and you’ve just shown how weak you are when it comes to invigorating arguments. Do you think the problem with Cameroon is that families are not well organized? An average Cameroonians struggles each day to provide for his or her family; manages to send his or her children to good schools. But tell what good comes out from the government? Problems do come when the government is involved. It is very easy to visit someone in Cameroon today who has struggled and built a nice home for his or her family, but the roads, the government responsibility, to get to these homes is always a problem. While in these homes, water or electricity,( still the responsibilities of the government) are still lacking.

Please read again before you get to this forum

Va Boy

Agbormbai, you have got a point there about dictatorships. The reason why Asian dictatorships succeeded when others did not, might have little to do with dictatorships as such than with the confucian values in which those cultures are steeped. It might also have something to do with why communism is different in China than in Russia. Confucianism is so ancient and inherent, it is coded into language and the rituals of daily life. There is no escaping its power and influence there. I suspect any ideology adapted to that culture would still succeed in being productive.

The Ngwa Man

Citizen Ntahoh Boniface, your first comment on the Citizen Ent. Newsonline's comments has some validity and he too raises some valid points. As is life there are two sides to every story and the truth sometimes can be derived from the factual aspects of both sides of a story. But Citizen Agbormbai's comment is the most reasonable.

If we would have had a more socialistic form of government in which the president and parliament used the revenue from the sale of our natural resources as investment capital to develop/create other state own industries, thus creating employment for Cameroonians, we would be a LITTLE better off. It is the utilization of our nations God given wealth for his sole benefit (and the benefit of a few around him) while the masses of the average citizen, poor, and vulnerable are suffering that annoys. I don't like dictators or autocratic socieities cause I don't believe in depending on the benevolence of one persons heart to motivate that person to do the right thing for those he/she leads.

As citizen Dr. Agbormbai postulated in one of his comments under the topic President Biya's End of Year Address, that the goal of Ahidjo and Biya was done on the pretense of maintaining the unity of the newly formed ethnicaly diverse nation with peace and stability, "regardless of the cost in human lives," then in my opinion we can come to grips with and eventually accept that phase of our history as a nation. But we need to progress and move on from this mentality. Most Cameroonians see themselves as a one nation now, we have grasped that idea. We need to move on to the next phase of our nationhood.

If we look to the president especially our first set of presidents as father figures, then why would you not as a good father does? Why should Son Excellence as one of the fathers of the nation direct the country in a direction where it will survive and thrive in case of his eventual demise. Thats what good fathers and mothers do for their children.

Every good parent knows that they will not live forever and some know they may not live long enough to see their children achieve the goals they set for them. So what do these good parents do?

They prepare their children through guidance, rules, descipline, education, saving money, life insurance and other loving means of support so that eventually their children can grow up and survive without them.

Only a bad father would clothe, feed, house, and educate himself (S.E. Biya) while his children (Cameroonians) beg in the streets for assistance from outsiders (foreign nations) whom have their own agenda for why they encourage the father to be irresponsibile. That agenda of course is to steal the inheritance/birth right of the children because they are weak and ignorant.

I have had strong discusions with fellow paysans about their questionable understanding of what true democracy is. Maybe it is because of our culture of having Fons, Chiefs, Lamido's and the like that has caused some of us as well as the rest of Africa to be carried away with this deification of our political leaders. We also have a kind of Strong-man syndrome that we somehow believe in which manifests itself in our political governance system through dictators. This can best understood by me paraphrasing a statement my petit frere once made. "What we need in Cameroon is a Strong-man who will force us as a nation to do the right thing." Of course I had to rebuke him and try to get him to understand how we would be better off through the embracement of democratic principles in how we govern ourselves and elect our officials.

I myself am a fan of the U.S. constitution but strongly believe in term limits for all representatives of the people, especially those at the top of certain political posts. From the U.S. system one realizes that those who have been in the system long have been corrupted by special interest, e.g. Senator Joe Lieberman. Senators can be elected to serve long 6 year terms and can stand for election as many times as they want for that post. You have senators that have been in office forever and have seen 4 or 5 presidents come and go. Thats why when I posted my idea of what a new constitution for Camer should look like I gave MP's and even Constitutional Judges term limits so that they would not be allowed to drink infinitely from the cup of power and eventually eternaly be drunk, detatched and callous to the needs of those they represent.

We need a change in the rules of our political system to bring us in line with what other succesful nations are doing. I end with this metaphor/parable. While others have embraced the wheel and found other applications of it as a better means of moving goods and people (e.g. wheel barrows, wagons, to cars) we are still carrying things on our head and our leaders are window dressing this method as our version of the wheel. God help and motivate us to stand up and change Cameroon.

The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc.

....Now you guys are debating beyond the simlicity and lack of inspiration that Professor Asonganyi teaches his students...Agbormbai and Ngwa man, your debate is the nucleus of bigger things to come...thats the way forward...keep trekking...

Kamarad

Dr Ernest L. Molua aka The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc.: what do you teach your students? The venerable and eloquent Asonganyi could teach you rhetorical coherence and grammer in his sleep. I fear for your students.

Ras Tuge

Va Boy,
you are one of those little ones that repeatedly exert themselves to sequestrate my right to free speech. Surprisingly though, i notice that you are compulsively borrowing from me, if not directly espousing my view with respect to my take on ideology and the culture of a people.

Recurrently, i have openly declared that democracy has never been appropriate for Africa, simply because the concept has failed to address the cultural realities, as well as the intricacies connected with governing Africa. I noted that democracy in the West cannot mean the same thing in Africa, simply because African nation-states operate by different norms and values. And because of this fact, democracy will always remain alien, as well as a far-fetched notion as far as Africa is concerned.

Agbormbai, i have noted that democracy is far from flawless, and as a matter of fact, it doesn’t even have an iota of the sort of perfection that many erroneously attach to it. I remember also mentioning the fact that democracy is simply the rule of the majority, which is often just marginal, and hence shrouded with untold trappings of injustice. Moreover, Karl Marx, a communist stated clearly that democracy is all but a temporary model that will someday be replaced by a larger and much more representative system.

American democracy is supposed to be the model of that system of governance. The fact that you’re shocked by what you call the low moral standards in the US, simply speaks volumes, and it is bountiful testament to the fact that Africa is in dire need of figuring out it’s own model of governance. By my experience in Scotland, i can safely tell you that, the UK is not very different from the US, as far as the so-called democratic principles are concerned. May i remind you that Tony Blair was just as incompetent as George Bush, and these notorious criminals of democratic evil plunged the world in a treacherous and misguided war in Iraq.

They both go down in history as the opportunistic imperialists that plundered and ruined a country that their very own forbears ironically helped to create, in the shameless guise of regime change, and to export this so-called democracy. Ofcourse, Iraq is yet to become that better place. Or, better-still the plight of the ordinary Iraqi has all but worsened as we all know. Certain concepts are basically tailored, or suited for specific civilisations. Owing to this therefore, it is extremely difficult, if not impossible for the world to live under one model of governance.

Lastly Agbormbai, i truly wonder if you have ever heard of the term elective dictatorship? You donot seem to be abreast of this concept, which to my mind is a far better prescription for Africa if combined with some aspects of Socialism. Afterall, Jesus Christ Himself was a Socialist, and so is the Head Creator, Tafari.

All in all, again i say Africans must create their own pragmatic model of governance that will cater for the imperative African realities, and this model will definitely deviate from the current democratic principles that we all know of today.

Agbormbai, you better drop that title you compulsively write infront of your name man. You don’t argue like a man who owns one.

gimme a break

Who cares about grammatical correctness here. He may be a succesful prof, but politics is not his thing. Actually, those who have made the Cameroon situation worse are college educated people who think hey can become presidents over night. Politics requires commitment, as is his professorship. But, what we are seeing are university dons masquerading as politicians, trying to take over our political system for the cheap.

Kamarad

Biya became president overnight. U will get no f******* break from me; you hateful dog! Prof. Asonganyi does not need endorsements from self-hating demagogues like you.

Kamarad

...its very worrying when people who can't criticize their autocratic traditional leaders who usurp their land and women, can't criticize their non-performing CPDM brethren in government, but are quick to insult their head of state....this hypocrazy has reached enormous proportion...we may be heading to the Rwandan route.....

Posted by: The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc. | Sunday, 29 November 2009 at 08:06 AM

dango tumma

biya himself had finally pronounce the state
of southern cameroons, soo brethren you owe it to yourself to blow your own horn else no one will blow it for you. you are all southern cameroonians, please reffer to events in the context of cameroun and southern cameroons, there is no such as single country known as cameroun, belive in that lie and brainwash yourselves.

Watesih

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The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc.

http://www.entrepreneurnewsonline.com/2010/01/for-america-change-is-a-ragged-process.html

Kamarad

..its very worrying when people who can't criticize their autocratic traditional leaders who usurp their land and women, can't criticize their non-performing CPDM brethren in government, but are quick to insult their head of state....this hypocrazy has reached enormous proportion...we may be heading to the Rwandan route.....

Posted by: The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc. | Sunday, 29 November 2009 at 08:06 AM

Ras Tuge

Va Boy,
you are one of those little ones that repeatedly exert themselves to sequestrate my right to free speech. Surprisingly though, i notice that you are compulsively borrowing from me, if not directly espousing my view with respect to my take on ideology and the culture of a people.

Recurrently, i have openly declared that democracy has never been appropriate for Africa, simply because the concept has failed to address the cultural realities, as well as the intricacies connected with governing Africa. I noted that democracy in the West cannot mean the same thing in Africa, simply because African nation-states operate by different norms and values. And because of this fact, democracy will always remain alien, as well as a far-fetched notion as far as Africa is concerned.

Agbormbai, i have noted that democracy is far from flawless, and as a matter of fact, it doesn’t even have an iota of the sort of perfection that many erroneously attach to it. I remember also mentioning the fact that democracy is simply the rule of the majority, which is often just marginal, and hence shrouded with untold trappings of injustice. Moreover, Karl Marx, a communist stated clearly that democracy is all but a temporary model that will someday be replaced by a larger and much more representative system.

American democracy is supposed to be the model of that system of governance. The fact that you’re shocked by what you call the low moral standards in the US, simply speaks volumes, and it is bountiful testament to the fact that Africa is in dire need of figuring out it’s own model of governance. By my experience in Scotland, i can safely tell you that, the UK is not very different from the US, as far as the so-called democratic principles are concerned. May i remind you that Tony Blair was just as incompetent as George Bush, and these notorious criminals of democratic evil plunged the world in a treacherous and misguided war in Iraq.

They both go down in history as the opportunistic imperialists that plundered and ruined a country that their very own forbears ironically helped to create, in the shameless guise of regime change, and to export this so-called democracy. Ofcourse, Iraq is yet to become that better place. Or, better-still the plight of the ordinary Iraqi has all but worsened as we all know. Certain concepts are basically tailored, or suited for specific civilisations. Owing to this therefore, it is extremely difficult, if not impossible for the world to live under one model of governance.

Lastly Agbormbai, i truly wonder if you have ever heard of the term elective dictatorship? You donot seem to be abreast of this concept, which to my mind is a far better prescription for Africa if combined with some aspects of Socialism. Afterall, Jesus Christ Himself was a Socialist, and so is the Head Creator, Tafari.

All in all, again i say Africans must create their own pragmatic model of governance that will cater for the imperative African realities, and this model will definitely deviate from the current democratic principles that we all know of today.

Agbormbai, you better drop that title you compulsively write infront of your name man. You don’t argue like a man who owns one.

gimme a break

Kamarad
Biya never became president overnight. He had occupied various dutiy post and cabinet positions people he handed power. This is not to say i endorse whatever he has doen uptill this point. But one area i will credit him is the opening of our piblic education system. Lots of us benefited form this sytem. You seem not to understand my beef with the professor. And this is it. He gave up the fight. If you look through history, people who have achieved never quit. This is exactly what he did.

Before you call me dog next time, may i remind you dogs don't blog on the internet.

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