Excerpt of Interview By Francis Ngwa:
First Published in the Uniting Cameroonians in the UK blog
Chief Barrister Charles Taku is Defence Counsel at the International Criminal Court ICC in the Hague, Lead Defence Counsel at the UN court in Arusha, Tanzania and is one of the lead councels for the UN special court for Sierra Leone.
He has also been at the forefront in the fight for a freer Southern Cameroons. Not surprisingly, he has been involved with some of the multiple cases of killings and torture brought against LRC in its attempts to suppress the drive to get an independent Southern Cameroons.
President Paul Biya, like all former leaders , does not want to face court charges after his exceptionally long period as president ends as it will one day happen. That is why his supporters engineered a constitutional change to protect him from future prosecutions.
This according to Barrister Charles Taku is not good enough according to international law and Mr Biya, like former Serbian leader Slobodan Milosovic, might find himself answering questions in an international tribunal for his exactions against Southern Cameroonians.
So does Southern Cameroons want a separate state or want to be equal partners in a federated Cameroon, can one have the Cameroon government and Mr Biya facing any international court cases for human rights violations and why are southern Cameroonians not as militant as Black South Africans in their fight for equality?
Francis Ngwa put the questions:
Q What are the legal basis for the complaints of English speaking people in Cameroon? Do they need a federal state or an independent country to resolve the problem?
A: In answer to your question, permit me to correct one misconception implicit in it. There is no such thing as “English speaking people in Cameroon”. I presume your question is directed at the legal basis for the restoration of the Sovereignty of the Southern Cameroons- Ambazonia over her territory.
With that caveat, permit me to state clearly that it is not contested that Southern Cameroons is a state recognized as such in International Law. The Southern Cameroons fulfilled the legal criteria of Statehood spelt out in the 1932 Montevideo Convention on Rights and Duties of States.
Article 1 of the said Convention states:
“The State as a person of International Law should possess the following qualifications:
a) a permanent population.
b) A defined territory.
c) Government.
d) Capacity to enter into relations with other states.
That the Southern Cameroons possessed these qualifications is no longer subject of reasonable controversy, regard had to be made to the fact that the UN through its Resolutions affirmed her exercise of the right of self determination through a well conceived procedure with full UN participation, that was to commence with a UN organized Plebiscite and ending with an Internationally recognized union treaty with La Republique du Cameroun.
That process, we all know, was aborted and so no treaty worthy of recognition and enforcement pursuant to articles 102 and 103 of the UN Charter exists between Southern Cameroons and La Republique Du Cameroon.
It is therefore futile for any one to invoke alleged historical or political arguments to justify the existence of any union between the two, without first ascertaining whether the UN-laid down basis for the existence of a legally binding treaty was executed or faithfully implemented pursuant to the Charter responsibilities of the all the parties involved.
In conflating the notions of Sovereignty and that of Statehood to justify its annexation of the Southern Cameroons-Ambazonia, La Republique Du Cameroun is oblivious of the fact that Southern Cameroons as a Legal Order, prior to the annexation of her territory, had her own executive and legislative organs, conducted foreign relations through her own organs, had her own system of courts and legal system, had her own nationality laws, and above all had her own constitution.
Her loss of the decision making over these matters due to the overbearing foreign control through military, economic and political blackmail and downright colonial criminality do not affect her statehood status in International Law. Similarly, Iraqi exercise of sovereignty over Kuwait, American exercise of sovereignty over Iraq, Allied exercise of sovereignty over Germany after the Second World War or Soviet exercise of Sovereignty over the Soviet Republics did not ipso jure lead to a loss of the statehood of the occupied states in International Law.
The African Commission on Human and Peoples’ Rights only recently reaffirmed that Southern Cameroons constitute a people recognized as such under the Charter. That can only be construed within the context of the distinctive statehood of Southern Cameroons since the constitutive tribes of La Republique do not have any of the qualifying attributes of a state defined in the Montevideo Convention.
There can be no gainsaying the fact that had La Republique du Cameroun as an occupying force not invoked the status of Southern Cameroons in International Law as well as the treaties that defined her International Boundaries, and all other acts that accord with the Montevideo Convention, the case she initiated against Nigeria would have been dismissed as a matter of law and fact.
To this extent, the exercise of sovereignty over that case, culminating in the Greentree agreement in which both Nigeria and La Republique undertook to withdraw their forces to their respective boundaries at Independence as the leadership of Ambazonia has correctly argued, is but a logical conclusion of an exercise of sovereignty which an occupying power merely undertook for the benefit of the State of Southern Cameroons- Ambazonia as their pleading and evidence tendered at trial reasonably suggests. In this regard, there is no other reasonable conclusion or inference to draw from the totality of the proceedings and its outcome.To that end,therefore, the continuous occupation of the territory of the Southern Cameroons by La Republique Du Cameroun is manifestly illegal, untenable and unacceptable.
Coming to the next arm of your question whether Southern Cameroons need a federation or independence to resolve the problem, I will defer in part to the preceding answer. I wish however to emphasize that the Southern Cameroons overwhelmingly voted for independence in a UN supervised plebiscite in 1961 and was required thereafter to exercise her right of self determination by negotiating and defining with UN and British Government’s participation of a union treaty with La Republique du Cameroun.
Note must be taken of the fact that the British Government’s participation was in respect of her UN Charter obligation and not in any other capacity. To the extent that the said Charter responsibility was never effected and has never occurred, there is no union between La Republique Du Cameroun and Southern Cameroons.
Assuming for the purpose of argument only, one were to say that Southern Cameroons was never independent as the spokesman of La Republique Isa Tchiroma stated lately, that conflation of the notion of independence and Statehood would reasonably be construed as ignorance of the state of international law on the subject.
Ian Bronwlie and Jose’ E. Alvarez, Leading authorities on International Law have stated that it is inappropriate to confuse independence as an aspect of statehood, because several factors may explain a loss of independence and / or sovereignty which may not necessarily lead to a loss of statehood. Brownlie emphasizes that “a common source of confusion lies in the fact that “sovereignty may be used to describe the condition where a state has not exercised its own privileges, and immunities in respect of other states. In this sense, a state which has consented to another state managing its foreign relations, or which has granted extensive extra-territorial rights to another state, is not “sovereign”. If this or similar content is given to “sovereignty”, and the same ideogram is used as a criteria of statehood, then the incidents of statehood and legal personality are once again confused with their existence”.
For the above reason, it is submitted that neither the statehood nor the independence of the Southern Cameroons are in question. What is at stake is the exercise of sovereignty that both confer on the State of Southern Cameroons. It is this stolen sovereignty that we are on course to recovering. That in essence is what we call the Southern Cameroons problem.
With the suggestion that a federation may solve the problem, I may venture to state that the suggestion has been overtaken by events. These are evident in the acts and conduct of La Republique Du Cameroun that rendered the fulfillment of UN Charter responsibility on the Southern Cameroons problem impossible.
First, the UN Resolutions required that the exercise of the rights of self determination of the people of Southern Cameroons be inviolable and sacrosanct. Neither Foncha nor Ahidjo nor any other person however so called could alienate those rights upon himself.
In addition to the none fulfillment of the UN Charter responsibilities by the UN and Great Britain as stated above, all acts undertaken by these individuals or who so ever at Foumban where a purported Federal Constitution was allegedly conceived adopted and promulgated by Ahidjo without the sanction of the Southerns Cameroons through her House of Assembly or by referendum was null and void ab initio and without an legal effect whatsoever.
Even if the Federal Constitution that came out of that process was legitimate, the subsequent violation of article 47 of the said constitution that rendered any amendment that impaired the federal character of the Republic null and void rendered the alleged union the constitution purported to create void ab initio.
Besides, that constitution was not and could not be the union treaty contemplated by the UN Resolutions on Southern Cameroons because in promulgating the said Constitution into law, Ahmadou Ahidjo did not draw inspiration from the UN Resolution on Southern Cameroons, or the Plebiscite of 11 February 1961. He simply did so through an amendment of and adaptation to the Constitution of a “reunified La Republique Du Cameroun” of 4 March 1960 through Law No. 61-24 of 1 September 1961.
It is therefore in error for any one to hold that that amendment of the Constitution of La Republique Du Cameroun by Law No. 61-24 of 1 September 1961 even before the Independence of the Southern Cameroons on 1 October 1961 created a valid and subsisting union contemplated by the UN for the purpose of its charter obligations. That law was rather the very basis of annexation and colonization of the Southern Cameroons which all peace loving people of the world must condemn vehemently.
It was therefore in perpetuation of this illegality that La Republique Du Cameroun in 1972 organized a purported referendum to create a unitary state, in violation of article 47 of its own amended constitution, a so-called Federal Constitution.
These illegalities and criminal annexation and colonization have invariably been denounced by Prominent Southern Cameroonians led by HRM Fon Gorgi Dinka, Professor Carlson Anyangwe, Albert Womah Mukong and a plethora of others listed by an eminent Camerounian Scholar Pierre Fabien Nkot in his seminal book “Usage Politiques du Droit En Afrique : Le Cas Du Cameroun”.pg35-40.
In recognition of the illegalities denounced vehemently and persistently by many led by Fon Dinka in particular for and on behalf of the severely repressed revolting masses of the Southern Cameroons-Ambazonia and cognizant of the gravity of the consequences of the crimes of annexation and colonization, the President of La Republique Du Cameroun, Paul Biya, in 1984, enacted a law reverting the Republique du Cameroun to its legal personality at Independence, and with it, its internationally recognized boundaries, its state symbols and re-emphasized this fact as Dinka has rightly stated in the Greentree agreement with Nigeria.
La Republique Du Cameroun was offered an opportunity to get into a valid , Federation with the Southern Cameroons at the AAC1, reiterated at the AACII and she declined. In so declining, she exercised an act of sovereignty which Southern Cameroons was mandated in law to respect and did respect. La Republique is similarly obligated to respect International Law and her UN Charter obligations by vacating the territory of Southern Cameroons-Ambazonia forthwith.
According to Pierre Fabien Nkot, ( pg 40) Paul Biya has boasted that he was ready to organize a referendum to show the world that only a minority of Southern Cameroons was agitating to regain her sovereignty. The African Commission ordered that dialogue should be held under its auspices to resolve the Southern Cameroons problem. I encourage President Biya to bring this suggestion to the negotiating table which if accepted could be an alternative to violence and needless loss of life and limb.
For me, and a majority of Southern Cameroonians, anything other than a regain of sovereignty in conformity with international law is simply unacceptable. The contrary will give tacit blessings to impunity and crimes against the peace for which the UN and the civilized world are firmly opposed.
Thank you very much Francis and Barrister Taku for this Vital Piece of Information
Biya thinks that he can keeps on committing Genocide against Southern Cameroonians and nothing will happen bcos France will always Protect him.
When the Heat will be On, Neither will Corrupt France nor anyone protect him. He will pay for all the Killings and Torture against Us.
Posted by: Chief Ayuk Arrey | Tuesday, 16 March 2010 at 12:06 PM
This is the period for Biya to organize a referendum and you will be awed how SCNC will be kicked out of the two Regions in Cameroon.
I am no supporter of L'republique, but then SCNC is a FARCE.It has been used as a tool to gain political assylum by some cowards and all what its proponent can do is "talk" "talk" "talk" to quote Tikum Mbah Azonga.Where were you Chief Charles Taku when ICC passed a judgement givning Bakasi to Biya?.
Posted by: Felix | Tuesday, 16 March 2010 at 03:28 PM
Felix what is wrong to gain Political Asylum? Don't Southern Cameroonians deserve Political Asylum.
I will like you to know that we the SCNC's have been calling for Dialogue but Biya has been shunning dialogue Bcos he knows he's Guilty and he won't win.
You and Tikum Mbah are all Naive and Unpatriotic Southern Cameroonians. Do you think that La Repulique(Biya) or France loves you that much than Southern Cameroon.
You should also note that If situations like this There are quite and Open Diplomacy. So don't expect to see SCNC officials on CRTV, or CNN.
Posted by: Chief Ayuk Arrey | Tuesday, 16 March 2010 at 04:01 PM
CNN granting you audience??.Do you know of "Joseph Kony"? Those are they type of Men CNN or BBC can grant audience to not chicken hearts like yours.CRTV will be happy to grant some of you audience because they have already made a DEAL with some of you.I will never be suprise about it.I have said in this forum that sooner I will be seeing some of you in position of appointment in Biya Government.Inshort SCNC are now the only tool Biya needs to use to prolonge his stay.And not long from now, we shall see....
Posted by: Felix | Tuesday, 16 March 2010 at 05:06 PM
Dear Felix,
Please do not under-estimate the capabilities of the SCNC. I know that You've not seen us in very High Diplomatic Interviews with the International Media.
But I want you to note that, SCNC will not fall in to Any Diplomatic Trap.
We are now on the right track,the heat is moving on gradually and Your Idol Biya is on a Hot seat. To answer your question to Barrister About Bakassi giving to Cameroon is bcos ICC knows that it belongs to S.Cameroon and Southern is under occupation. This was engineered by Jacque Chirac bcos France has a Strategic Interest over Bakassi and wants to control it.
But I want you to note that, Under The Green Tree Agreement , Nigeria is supposed to Appeal the ICC decision. And Presently Nigeria Plans to take Over Bakassi by sending it troops again to occupy Bakassi, Bcos Nigeria supports our Independence and knows that Bakassi belongs to Southern Cameroonians.
The Biya military regime is treating the Bakassi People like Second Class Citizens bcos he knows that they're Southern Cameroonians.
La Republique Parliamentarians openly calls Anglophone's Senators "BIAFRANS" right inside the National Assembly. This shows the Hatred they've against us bcos we seek Independence and they will became Poor bcos they won't have anything to control from the 70% Cameroon GDP caming from the Southern Cameroon's Territory.
My Dear Felix, What S.Cameroonians need is "COURAGE" Not Discouragem't from People like you and Mr. Tikum Mbah Azonga who is seeking promotion in CRTV.
Posted by: Chief Ayuk Arrey | Tuesday, 16 March 2010 at 06:00 PM
Excellent interview.
Posted by: Ma Mary | Tuesday, 16 March 2010 at 10:37 PM
Lawyer Taku has argued his case well, as should be expected of a barrister, but the robustness of an argument does not make it right.
It is one thing separating an entity (legitimately or otherwise), how that translates in the human development index is a totally different matter
Posted by: limbekid | Thursday, 18 March 2010 at 08:23 PM
The paradox of ignorance. A blog christened: "Uniting Cameroonians in the UK" is sympathetic to 'dis-uniting' Cameroon....very strange indeed...
Posted by: The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc. | Friday, 19 March 2010 at 02:35 PM
Hi,
The following comment by Chief Ayuk Arrey has just caught my attention:
" My Dear Felix, What S.Cameroonians need is "COURAGE" Not Discouragen't from People like you and Mr. Tikum Mbah Azonga who is seeking promotion in CRTV".
Honestly, such statements by the Chief are dangerous because they are made by people who speak without doing their homework.Although he claims that I am looking for promotion at CRTV, the fact remains that I left CRTV two years ago. So what does our Chief have to say now?
We need leaders with feet of steel, not leaders with feet of clay. We need leaders who will listen more than they talk, not leaders who will talk more than they listen. We need leaders who will prop, not leaders who will fell.
Posted by: Tikum Mbah Azonga | Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 04:10 PM
Dear Tikum,
I am encourage by your kind words and Intellectual ability to Understand things. I might have been a Hardliner towards your article on several points that were exaggerated. I understood your worries, on the Political Strength of the SCNC.
That not withstanding, we are in a very crucial moment in this debate or Struggle , and will not be happy to read an article like yours that actually took a Hard-line against the SCNC. The Goals and Success of the SCNC won't just happen today or tomorrow. Its a gradual process and you Understand how politics in the International Community now operates.
If a concern Southern Cameroonian like you a Journalist as a matter of fact, could raise such Questions, It shows that as a journalist you can also as well do something positively for the SCNC. Bcos he who controls the Media controls the Information.
The International Community is very very Indirectly monitoring how events are unfolding between SCNC VS LA REPUBLIQUE. And If they came across an Article like yours, It really will send Negative Signals to those that have been supporting our struggle.
If you are having critical Questions that are bothering you, I think that you could contact the SCNC Authorities privately and voice your grievances. If you are Interested, I might give you CHIEF AYAMBA's( SCNC CHAIRMAN) Contacts or others.
Anyway, It was nice that you responded to the Criticism.
Posted by: Chief. Ayuk Arrey. | Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 05:04 PM
Dear Mr Tikum Mbah,
We are not sitting on our laurels. There is supposed to be a dialogue between Southern Cameroons and La Republique du Cameroun (Which you support, from your writings). Now, there are two things you can do:
1. Tell your people to talk
OR
2. Shut up.
We are not going to take instructions from people who profit from the blood of the oppressed.
@ Mr Limbekid,
I do not have to tell you what people of the diasporas contribute to the Cameroonian well-being -- £110 million per year.
@ Ernest Molua of the so called Entrepreneur
There is very little point trying to become the Youth President of the CPDM.
Furthermore, I note your call for violence. We are peaceful people.
You insinuate violence. We are not for violence. We want talks. However, I, Mbua, personally, is capable to savaging an enemy without looking back for self-defence. So, be careful.
Mbua from the Mountain
Posted by: Louis Egbe Mbua | Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 07:10 PM
DEFINITIONS
mer·ce·nar·y (mûrs-nr)
adj.
1. Motivated solely by a desire for monetary or material gain.
2. Hired for service in a foreign army.
n. pl. mer·ce·nar·ies
1. One who serves or works merely for monetary gain; a hireling.
2. A professional soldier hired for service in a foreign army.
patriot [ˈpeɪtrɪət ˈpæt-]
n
a person who vigorously supports his country and its way of life
Southern Cameroonians who support and fight for a country that colonized their country are mercenaries.
Louis Egbe Mbua is a Southern Cameroonian patriot
Ernest Molua of the so called Entrepreneur is a mercenary especially with his interest in becoming head of PRESBY and YCPDM.
QUIZ:
Simon Achidi Achu Patriot or Mercenary?
Ephraim Inoni Patriot or Mercenary?
Paul Biya Patriot or Mercenary?
Carlson Anyangwe Patriot or Mercenary?
Posted by: Ma Mary | Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 09:08 PM
Time for writing and talking is over.
Yes, its voilence time. It's Time to hack the Cowards on their achilles heels as they run into the 'bushes' to cover their heads, and leave their butts behind...It's time to chop off their legs as in their game of deceit...It's war time. It's VOILENCE time for the GOOD of Cameroon....
___________________________________________
DECLARATION OF WAR ON THE ENEMIES OF THE REPUBLIC OF CAMEROON: Recruiting True Patriots to join The National Patriotic Front for the Defense of the Homeland.
There is more wrongdoing on the tears of our ancestors and hopes of our forefathers who voted and politicked for the Cameroon that we have inherited, by absentee patriots.
True patriots must rise up and be counted, take on these cowards who write nonsense on cyberspace to justify their asylum... If it means forming a National Patriotic Front for the Defense of the Homeland to take on these cowards,...then that should be a glorious path to stake for the blood of our forebears.
Yes, its true that these low-lives, Cowards who have disguised as terrorists are a distraction; with No need to waste effort on rendition, sleep deprivation and water boarding...on them...for their toil on 3 jobs is enough torture and sleep deprivation; their toil in the winter cold is more treacherous than water boarding; nonetheless we cannot lose sight on the ultimate prize and sacrifice: The defense of the homeland.
If you were born a Cameroonian, live a Cameroonian and would die Cameroonian to be buried in Cameroon, your silence on the shenanigans of these cowards is akin to betrayal.
True forces must stand up and take on these cowards who reap, unbeknownst to them, from the blood and toil of euro-American forebears who gave up life to build a viable state that they now parasite on....whilst they thrash their villages and republic in public with cheap ignorant talk.
It's time to declare war on these cowards, whether in cyberspace or in physical combat.... National Patriotic Front for the Defense of the Homeland (NPF-DH) is recruiting.....
"MAN NO RUN"
Posted by: The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc. | Saturday, 20 March 2010 at 11:13 PM
Mr. Molua,
Violence belongs to the medieval Barbarians. We are for peace. Please, read your books. What did you do with the 30 books -- on your first day -- given in Sasse College FREE?
I'd tell you a small story. I brought those books to Europe. Surprise! Surprise!
The fundamental point --- considering the Banjul Verdict --- is this:
1. Discuss
2. Get out Now.
3. Be driven out Now.
1. Dialogue
Posted by: Louis Egbe Mbua | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 12:10 AM
Ah, Violence...
Poor little Sasse Old Boy has been hanging out too long with the frogs, with their penchant for violence, mass killings, false flag operations and all around corruption and incompetence. That is not us. Keep advertising your affinities to machete-wielding barbarians, and your little comfortable stay at Yale will be terminated real quick and you will not find a welcome mat at any anglosaxon institution of higher learning on planet earth.
Posted by: Ma Mary | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 12:30 AM
Ah! Violence...
The poor boy has been hanging a lot with barbaric francophones with their history of mass killings of innocents.
A word of advise to you, young man. Keep it up, and your little comfortable stay at Yale will be terminated real quick, and you will never find a welcome mat at any anglo-saxon institution of higher learning on the planet.
The Sasse Old Boys would be sure to shun your sorry behind as well.
La republique gave u a scholarship? These days those only go to little frogs and Southern Cameroonian mercenary dogs.
Posted by: Ma Mary | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 12:37 AM
Be reminded that progressive forces of the Republic of Cameroon are bound by the laws of the land to protect the country in all forms.
While we are lucky at this point in our history to have a leader that's peace loving and ignores your diabolic rants, ordinary men and women must rise up to put an end this lunacy that you and your cabal propagate.
This effort may come in diverse forms, but we will employ that which will ensure optimal outcome. Stay tuned. You can rant from your hideout in London after squandering Cameroon's tax payers money from Kindergarten subsidized education to governmnent sponsorhip in doctoral level education.
Rather than putting that investment in your human capital into productive use, you idle in cyberspace and quarel with your keyboard on a fictitious cyber-nation...possibly as a deflection of your own failures...travails.
Be reminded that war has been declared. And its in all forms....when next you sneak into Cameroon watchout....Though you could still be smoked out from your hole in the rat infested streets of London...
Posted by: The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc. | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 03:04 AM
What war?
What do you think la Republique has been doing since 1961? We thought we were trying to create a federal republic. Their agenda was to conquer the nation of the Southern Cameroons and its resources. Under the fog of its own civil war and the Cold War, it managed to fool our senses, until Gorji Dinka opened the curtain in 1984, and we saw that we had been the object of a covert war all this time.
Regarding Dr Mbua's scholarship, you are making no point. Under European colonialism, people went to study in Europe under colonial scholarships and still agitated for independence. All occupation powers have certain obligations.
Posted by: Va Boy | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 09:18 AM
Keep up that Milles Collines machete genocide talk, Mr Entrepreneuronline, and you will be thrown out of Yale and made persona non grata in any institution of higher learning in the world. That is what hanging out with francos does even to former Sasse mass boys. Welcome to the 21st century. If you mercenaries and your handlers try to pull off that genocide crap that you love so much, you will be hiding in caves or in jail at a time that you expect to be playing with your grandchildren. That is part of the value of our diaspora. We will keep you clean and we will not allow you to commit crimes in the dark.
Posted by: Va Boy | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 09:33 AM
Entrepreneuronline. Duly noted. You are threatening to assassinate Dr Mbua in London.
Posted by: Va Boy | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 09:35 AM
War has been declared on the Enemies of the Republic of Cameroon. Be prepared for the consequences or the collateral damage, as equally as I am prepared: for the good of the Republic of Cameroon.
This is not a threat. It is a tacit declaration.
I have been online in media groups discussing Cameroon since 1996, when some of you were still spermatozoans. Some of you are recently emancipated into ICT, so you are new to Cameroon online discourses. With the passage of time, and the accumulated information, the buggle is gone, and its time to defend the Homeland from cowards, cynics, nay-sayers, detractors and terrorists.
Make no mistake. This is REAL, in it all its forms...........
________________________________________________
DECLARATION OF WAR ON THE ENEMIES OF THE REPUBLIC OF CAMEROON: Recruiting True Patriots to join The National Patriotic Front for the Defense of the Homeland.
There is more wrongdoing on the tears of our ancestors and hopes of our forefathers who voted and politicked for the Cameroon that we have inherited, by absentee patriots.
True patriots must rise up and be counted, take on these cowards who write nonsense on cyberspace to justify their asylum... If it means forming a National Patriotic Front for the Defense of the Homeland to take on these cowards,...then that should be a glorious path to stake for the blood of our forebears.
Yes, its true that these low-lives, Cowards who have disguised as terrorists are a distraction; with No need to waste effort on rendition, sleep deprivation and water boarding...on them...for their toil on 3 jobs is enough torture and sleep deprivation; their toil in the winter cold is more treacherous than water boarding; nonetheless we cannot lose sight on the ultimate prize and sacrifice: The defense of the homeland.
If you were born a Cameroonian, live a Cameroonian and would die Cameroonian to be buried in Cameroon, your silence on the shenanigans of these cowards is akin to betrayal.
True forces must stand up and take on these cowards who reap, unbeknownst to them, from the blood and toil of euro-American forebears who gave up life to build a viable state that they now parasite on....whilst they thrash their villages and republic in public with cheap ignorant talk.
It's time to declare war on these cowards, whether in cyberspace or in physical combat.... National Patriotic Front for the Defense of the Homeland (NPF-DH) is recruiting.....
"MAN NO RUN"
Posted by: The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc. | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 09:58 AM
Mr. Enterprenieur,
- The Child that say Mother should not sleep ,He or She too will not Sleep.
These your threats will be taken seriously by all concern , but be well informed that Its not knew to us.
- A stubborn fly follows the Corpse to the Grave.
- The Termite flew so high above the skies ,not knowing that It will one day came down to the Agama Lizard.
If you fly recklessly , Your wings will be clipped.
"Be wise my Son"
Posted by: Chief. Ayuk Arrey. | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 12:39 PM
Really? I guess you are surrounded by economic asylees, so you may not know that true defenders of the Cameroon ideal live in person...keep hallucinating:
http://www.entrepreneurnewsonline.com/2010/03/a-call-for-true-patriots-in-the-defense-of-the-cameroon-homeland.html?cid=6a00d83451c73369e20120a95ed882970b#comment-6a00d83451c73369e20120a95ed882970b
Posted by: The Entrepreneur Newsonline Inc. | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 01:41 PM
Hey, don't you have mass to go to or some homework to do?
Posted by: Ma Mary | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 01:46 PM
I am making an appeal to the moderators of Up Station to ban Dr. Ernest Molua permanently from this site because he does not practice what he preaches. This afternoon, I posted the comment below on the Entrepeneur site in reaction to his call to arms against cyber-terrorists. A couple of hours later, the comment was deleted. Fortunately I saved a copy because I suspected that he was not the democrat that he claims to be.
If Mr. Molua cannot tolerate contrary opinions on his site, then he has not earned the right to make comments on this blog.
Here is the comment which he deleted:
While your call for patriotism is a laudable one, I think it suffers immensely from an absence of specifics regarding the actions of the so-called "cyber-terrorists". What are some examples of this cyber-terrorism? Who exactly are the perpetrators? How much influence do they actually wield? Without such specifics, the call for action sounds like a Fru Ndi "power" speech to rouse militants...
Also, I believe the role of the so-called refugees in the diaspora in tarnishing the image of Cameroon (or is it the Biya regime?) is overblown for effect. Today, the leading online Cameroonian spaces are owned by newspapers based in Cameroon, namely le Messager, Le Jour, Mutations, and La Nouvelle Expression, while the leading foreign -based Cameroonian online spaces such as Camer.be (belgium) or cameroon-info.net rarely have original articles but simply serve as aggregators of articles from the above-mentioned newspapers. So if Cameroon is actually being tarnished online, it is 90% the work of news organis based in Douala and Yaounde (a good example is the recent controversy over Cameroon's donation to Haiti which began in le messager and then was picked up by other newspapers, blogs and news aggregators). The fault then is in Douala and Yaounde, not in London, Paris or DC.
Now, if you are referring to the vitriolic reader comments that appear on these sites and on blogs (which I must point out that you have churned quite a handful yourself), then you are raising a false alarm because there is no credible foreign government or international organization that will base its "Cameroon Policy" on the comments (positive or negative) of anonymous individuals online. They have representatives on the ground and serious experts on Cameroon to help them in crafting that policy.
In short, the so-called cyber threat from the Cameroonian refugees and "cyber-terrorist" is a figment of the imagination of the government of Cameroon and its supporters who rather than engage on the issues, have joined anonymous rabblerousers to derail any serious debate about Cameroon. In short there are anti-Biya "cyber terrorists" and pro-Biya "cyber-terrorists" and those who really care about Cameroon don't give a damn about either.
If we have to make any real patriotic appeal, it would be that all Cameroonians of good faith join hands to force those in the corridors of power in Yaounde to either reform or get out of the way because after 30 years of failed policies, they have been a major obstacle to development and progress in Cameroon. Cameroon is moving on in spite of them and not because of them.
BTW, I think Mr. Molua has deliberately created confusion between the people of Cameroon and the state of Cameroon. All Cameroonian patriots will always stand by the hard working people to their dying day. However, it is definitely not their patriotic duty to defend the Biya regime at all cost. In fact, true patriotism calls for a constant critique of government actions so that the lives of the people could be better. Those who call for blind allegiance to the Biya regime - or to any regime for that matter - are the anti-patriots.
Manga Che ([email protected])
Posted by: Manga Che | Sunday, 21 March 2010 at 11:33 PM
THIS IS TO TESTIFY TO WHAT MANGA CHE WROTE
I equally had the same experience with Manga, I also posted a comment on his site as I code
Lies upon Lies
CPDM=Losers.
But after a couple of hours, He deliberately changed it to
CPDM=Winners.
Ernest Molua aka Enterprenieur online is a HYPOCRITE:
Posted by: Dr.Njume | Monday, 22 March 2010 at 07:03 AM