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Manu T

Great historical review and analysis. I never knew about the cases of Tala Andre and Tim & Foty. Africa is definitely the continent that keeps on giving. One just has to visit European Museums to see how they survive by showcasing "lost" African art...

Va Boy

I purchased those Tim and Foty tunes and listened to all today, after more than 20 years. Good news and bad.

First the good. The tunes are very sweet and I still enjoy them a lot.

The bad: a lot of their beats, rhythms and guitar riffs are very derivative. They borrowed heavily from 1970s funk and pop. That is one reason we liked them so much back then. They connected us to the global pop music world. In fact, some of their beats could be legitimately described as copied from specific funk records back then.

YOu copy me; I copy you. No problem.

Tim

Va Boy, how about identifying specific beats that were copied from specific songs? That too will add to the narrative. Just making generalizations sounds a lot like a case of sour grapes.

Va Boy

Tim, sour grapes would mean that I have an axe to grind or could possibly be jealous. I am not a musician, and actually love your music. I am, I confess, too lazy to wade through my college collection of funk to answer your question. That is research, and it is work, which I no longer do pro bono.

My claim that some of your beats and such are borrowed, but the music itself is original is hindsight. My other hindsight? What is it with the falsetto voices? If you sang like that today, even your compatriots would ask if there is a gay element there. No crime there, just curious. The music is still cool.

Ras Tuge

Tim and Foty!!! Oh gosh! That takes you back! My good old man had these tunes, and i grew up on them. I won't forget those celestial tunes by Charles Lembe. I mean...those were good days, and they're gone for good. We don't make music like these any longer, and that's why i don't listen to the exceptionally cacophonous Cameroonian music of today.

Tim and Foty did such a wonderful research, and looking back, i can safely say they're the best musicians ever produced by Cameroon. Not even Manu Dibango, or Ekambi Brilliant, or even Richard Bona can measure up to the vocal virtuousity, harmony, melody, or even the notes that Tim and Foty employed in creating their timeless music some three decades ago!

Another great artist that died without any recognition was Etub'Anyang whose music was so overwhelmingly surreal that Cameroon could not understand. I mean these were guys who could create good music with even the most rudimentary of means. These were exceptionally skilful guys, nothing short of geniuses. Etub' Anyang, may Jah Bless your soul, and i hope we truly get to understand the might of your talent someday soon.

Oh Tim and Foty! I am angry with you guys, i mean how can you set the bar so high, and just vanish in thin air? I have been searching for you for ages, remembering the joy you blessed my childhood with through your music. I would erect monuments for you guys in Cameroon, i'll paint that picture so big that even the little ants would bow for you. Please do make us know where you are. Where can i buy CDS of your music? I don't want no I-tunes.

Eda, Seh Nda, Ndola ngo, and most of all Famla are some really haunting songs of yours that all heal my Reggaemylitis for a moment by making me forget the mind-numbing, and loud rubbish we're punished with today by Longue Longue and the rest.

Elton Elis

I don’t think this is necessarily" undermining African intellectual and artistic rights" as it is undermining artistic rights in general. This sort of thing happens all the time especially now with the ease of access to music worldwide and from different eras. it goes both ways Busta Rhymes has sampled Manu Dibango as the late Kotto Bass sampled Chuck Mangione a US artist. I don’t think Mangione was credited on the Kotto Bass album either, I could be wrong. I think this should be encouraged as long as the original artist is credited. It opens new avenues for music of different culture to be appreciated and that can only be a good thing for both artist and cultures. Bye the way, the worst case of such abuse is the “Lion sleeps tonight” written by Solomon Linda who never got credit for it even as it became on of the most popular songs in this our great country

Didi

Hey Ras Tuge, you can get the greatest hist album from Amazon.com for $55. Alternatively, you can spend 8 dollars and download the songs directly from amazon.com and then burn them onto a CD.Your choice

Mallam Shehu

Tim and Foty,
never shall I forget your sublime jingle, the heart mollifying beats of Famla.
The last time I was lucky to have a sip of Famla dates 2yrs today, I was engulfed in a whirling ecstasy as Tim and Foty, melodiously reverberated the word Famla full-throated; half-asleep and half-awake, I was inundated by incessant streams of sweetness that meandered through my veins, infusing endorphin into my innermost brain region.
Each refrain of Famla was attached to special and past events, I felt like I was being ferried through melodious rhymes back to childhood .
Thank you, Tim and Foty.

limbekid

I wrote a short piece on another music forum, when the Shakira story broke out. I used the same examples, bar the Tim & Foty case which I wasn`t aware of. Good to know the Goldens Sounds group was not short-changed.

Ras Tuge

Didi,

i have seen the Tim and Foty, Greatest hits on cdbaby.com for 40 USD! My father will be proud that i own this special CD. I thought these guys were so gone that you wouldn't find them on the net! Thanks for tipping me. I am also grateful to Mola Tande.

What a way to start the weekend, just listen to the baseline, the percussion,...i mean the notes these guys used are just incredible! Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv8b5uaGeKQ&feature=related

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