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Ma Mary

Well said, Mwalimu. It could work the way you have said it. In fact, we went down this path before. The AAC, SCNC, SCPC etc had a federalist thrust to their dialogue and debate at the beginning. It only turned to total separation and the independence of the Southern Cameroons because the other side and its citizens were contemptuous of historical and legal truths and refused to engage. They are still not engaging. They are playing games, and therefore, because of this bad faith the independence train continues towards its destination, and as each day passes, it will be harder and harder to stop.

There are people who say Southern Cameroons can never be true. I assure you that in the 1940s-1960s there were lots of Africans who did not believe in African independence. They believed that we were nothing without Europe, but the dreamers prevailed. All good things start with a dream, with a though strongly held and felt.

Bob Bristol

If a fake news could even go on air that trained Ambazonian army are planning to attack some strategic points in La Republique, the international community may know that something is at stake. These are the kinds of rumours which will make Biya to panic. When these types of rumours keep circulating withoutt anything happening, there will come a fantastic opportunity to launch an offensive not against la Republique per say, but against the regime.

limbekid

Mwalimu,

I`m happy you mention Anglophone values. What are these values? To wit: the English language, Common Law, parliamentary democracy, Anglo-Saxon based educational system... Most of these can be exercised without external endorsement, unfortunately a lot of effort is spent reviewing the legitimacy/illegitimacy of our union with the Francophones.

The way I see it, we`ve favoured POWER over INFLUENCE. We want to match Francophones: institution for institution (alternative Presidency, separate parliament, reserved ministerial portfolios...). That is a crowded arena and we need to rethink strategy. Take the Jews in Europe and the US for instance: they may not be visually present in the corridors of power, but remain a constant force. They are your philosophers, financiers, media moguls, nobel prize winners, university professors... They pull the purse strings with their banks, and influence opinion with their media. As a minority they`ve widened the battle field and taken the fight to an arena where they remain untouchable. It is time Anglophones (as a numerical minority), place INFLUENCE over POWER. Strive to be the creative minority that drives Cameroon. We don`t need any more Fonchas and Munas (firebrand politicians). We need to start producing Achebes, Soyinkas, Usain Bolts... - individuals whose influence supercede national boundaries.

Che Sunday

History has proven that putting the French and English cultures together is an exercise in futility. Look across Africa. Togo refused to merge with Ghana, Gambia was carved out of Senegal, the two never re-united, former Dahomey, now Benin, could have merged with Nigeria, they never did. Why is Southern Cameroon being forced to become part of Cameroon when the latter has shown little interest in treating the former as human beings, let alone as equals? As best as the rest of Canada has tried to please Quebec, it continues to fight for autonomy. In fact, in its last failed attempt at autonomy, the joke in Washington was, "one France is bad enough, let alone two, and having it next door for that matter." This wedding failed right from the first day it was consecrated, lets stop beating a dead horse.

Va Boy

Che Sunday sir. That is simply brilliant. The British and the French deliberately created their systems to be mutually antagonistic over centuries. Now we want to resolve the tangled mess without mutual goodwill. It was a noble project at its conception, but they spoilt it with power games.

limbekid

@ Che Sunday & Va Boy,

Your arguments are predicated on the assumption that success is based on the legitimacy/illegitimacy of a state. Unfortunately it is not so. For the most part it is dependent on the will of a people, to survive. What about those of us Cameroonians who leave our shores for foreign lands, having to grapple with learning a 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th language; inhospitable climate and people; institutional racism; and all other hurdles. Do you clamour for a separate entity designed to suit your needs? Life for the most part is social Darwinism at work, and adaptation is the most realistic strategy.

That certain entities (Senegal/Gambia, Ghana/Togo...) opted to live apart, is immaterial. Separation or non-separation is not the end in itself but only a means to an end. Is the living standard of the Gambian better than that of the Senegalese, as a result of separation? The ultimate objective is to improve the living standard of the Anglophone (Cameroonian). If that is achieved through separation/federation/secession, so be it. In the meantime, these can only be considered strategic options, the results of which can hardly be forecast by mere speculation.

Bob Bristol

Limbekid,

I'm glad you talked about success. There is a wide margin between individual success and success at the level of the State. I don't think Southern Cameroonians are doing bad.

Let me coin out a word like "Penurisation". You can guess what it means. When a State embarks on a well defined plan to keep its citizens under a spell of misery, it is like being in a sealed house. Sneaking out transforms you into an enemy of the State. By sneaking out, I mean succeeding. But when your success is given a cold reception because you carry the banners of a failed State, you just can't stop thinking of breaking away.

How many economic projects in Southern Cameroon have failed because of the policies the gov't of La Republique?

John Dinga

Comparisons are a good way to progress and the comparison with America's Jews is quite interesting. My only quarrel with this particular comparison is that it assumes Anglophones in Cameroon can simply alter their plight by becoming influential. Really?
How influential can any Anglophone academic, businessman, musician or any of the others be under our skies and with the type of policies in place? Remember someone wrote a few days ago mentioning his experience just knocking the door of a Cameroon Embassy? What did the receptionist say? And what consequence did he receive as a result of the policy in place? Well, try making fun of any Jewish persons in America and see what happens. If you doubt this, try looking up the fate of a CNN radio talk show, Rick Sanchez for daring to allude to Jon Stewrt's bigotry and the fact that the Jewish lobby controls America.Try also Ronan Tynan, the physician/musician forced to flee New York for Boston simply for uttering anti-semitic jokes that hurt a certain lobby, including the New York Yankees. Now compare these with the response a Cameroonian of French expression gets whenever utterances like "Je ne comprends pas votre anglais" spew out of their mouth.
Of course we all know that Anglophone Cameroonians are dutiful, hardworking, patriotic and so on. They have always been. But does the policy in place support them? No sane Anglophone would lose sleep asking fot snother state if all were fine. And please the Senegambia arrangement was stillborn!

limbekid

@ Bob Bristol,

I guess we are all agreed, that there is a difference between acknowledgement of a problem, and agreement on solutions. Cameroon is in dire straits (even by African standards) and we are all aware. Why am I reticent over the Anglophone issue?

- When do we start the clock of history (in Cameroon)? After the Portuguese; the Germans; the English and French, or post independence?

- Most of the information on the Anglophone cause is historic. There is little or no emphasis on how separation will enhance the lives of the ordinary Anglophone.

- It is highly protectionist and therefore unrealistic in an increasingly globalised world.

- There is little acknowledgement of concessions obtained without sacrificing the union: an Anglophone educational system; GCE Board; Anglophone university; use of the English language in Anglophone territory; Common Law jurisdiction; media liberalisation... Maybe it`s time for the Anglophone private sector to fill in some gaps.

I would encourage Anglophone Cameroonians to embrace liberal professions (design, art, music, script writing, documentary making...) and set their sights beyond Cameroon. It is rather perplexing that every second graduate you interview, has ambitions to get into ENAM, IRIC, ESSTIC, ASMAC ... This model is unsustainable and fast becoming outdated.

@ John Dinga,

You only buttress my point when you mention how America quivers over Jewish influence. Officially they only constitute 2.1% of the population (compare that to the Anglophone 20% of Cameroon`s population). It is an amzing achievement for a people who`ve been through progroms; a holocaust; institutional and systematic discrimination. The Blacks and Irish may tussle for the White House but the Jews know where to pull the strings. That is why a Rupert Murdoch can influence elections from Australia, through Europe, to the USA, without firing a single shot. The comparison may not apply but I merely used it to illustrate how character is more important to success, than territory. Now closer to home: aren`t Cameroonians literally begging the apolitical Cardinal Tumi to run for office? Aren`t we all still using Bernard Fonlon as a reference, decades after his demise? What about the impact of the Bamilekes on the commercial landscape of Cameroon? If that is not influence, what is?

Che Sunday

Limbekid,
I would have been tempted to subscribe to your line of reasoning, were it not Cameroon we are talking of. At re-unification, the office of president of the republic was reserved for Francophone Cameroon, while that of the Vice president was reserved for the Anglophone leader. Meanwhile, in case of a sudden death of the president, it was not the vice president who succeeds, but the speaker of the national assembly, who ostensibly was always going to be Francophone. In effect, being anglophone in Cameroon meant, your were eternally second best. That is why I said the marriage failed at the alter. If, as a black man I came to the states in the era of Jim Crow's laws, it would have been unhealthy for me to set up camp knowing the state plays a role in limiting my capabilities. Both you and I go to work everyday because we believe that our efforts are being compensated commensurate with our abilities. I will love to see a united Cameroon, one that sees me as a Cameroonian first, not as an anglo.Look at Germany. It reunited without limiting the rights of former East Germans. They were, (just like Cameroon), a single country split into two ideological blocks,but re-united without reference to one as communist (Commi), and capitalist (Capi) Germans. Even in Ruwanda where a Tutsi minority has had a stranglehold on power since independence, for the sake of national unity, the Tutsis relinguished power to a Hutu for the sake of national reconciliation. Do you foresee such a thing happening in Cameroon?

Va Boy

Dr EM Limbe Kid, one can spot your trademark embrace of American success philosophy a mile away. It is clear from your website that you love to read that stuff. I am also a student of Napoleon Hill and his descendants, and I am practicing the philosophy in America quite successfully, thank you. You are desperately hoping that Southern Cameroonian change of attitude and personal responsibility is all it would take to reverse the colonization of Southern Cameroons by la Republique.
Napoleon Hill would never have been Napoleon Hill without the American struggle for independence.

limbekid

@ Che Sunday,

What if (by virtue of Francophone numerical superiority) an Anglophone cannot democratically accede to the Presidency, should we continue chasing shadows, instead of seeking more independent means to stamp our authority?

@ Va Boy,

Honestly, I`ve never read Napoleon Hill (maybe we share the same philosophy), but you`re right about my views on "personal responsibility".

mex

i have read all your oppinions. i am very glad that atleast there is a venue where we can air such thoughts. one thing that you all fail to acknwoledge is the fact that this forum is a big leap forward. most of us now question and through such questions we can start thinking and through thinking we are obviously going go come out with some conclutions. i hope that we do so soon. anglophones are fighting for anglophones. irronically when you are in brussels, new york, london, durban, amsterdam, berlin, you think that you are in cameroon. from my personal experience it seems as if all anglophone graduates are out of the country. it is true that life abroad is difficult. but is it difficult than than in cameroon as an anglophone graduate? all these are indications that something is wrong

Bob Bristol

Limbekid,

As individuals, nobody is sleeping and waiting for Southern Cameroons to achieve its independence before we start devising ways of progressing. But when a Barber cannot function effectively because of constant blackouts as a result of his base in the English speaking part of Cameroon, when the produce of Farmers cannot get to the market on time because of deplorable roads, when a student cannot get a well deserved scholarship simply because he is an "Anglo", then it is obvious that the desire to be autonomous must be aired.
When a government fails in its basic responsibilities, the citizens are doomed.

Afoakom and Nyampke Club.

Reunification, that reunification, the day civilzation was introduced to the Biafras west of the Moungo at the expense of the true sons of the the soil.

Curse on the head of Ahidjo for bringing mayhem to Yaounde. Today, we cannot even write and send e-mails without encrypting them because those Biafras who pass for Cameroonians found in Bamenda and Buea will hack into people's accounts and drain them.


What have we the real sons of the soil reaped from that marriage of doom? The relatives of Ojukwu and Awolowo think they have a right in what we do in our country. They even take us to the UN to embarras us. All these because of one stupid postmaster called Ahidjo.

Those Biafras who are insulting our civil servants like those at the embassy in washington should know that, it is because of the affirmative action we have implemented since that doomed reunification that showed them the light.

Va Boy

Diporko, please.

You are persona non grata in Southern Cameroons space, including this here website.

Che Sunday

Afoakom,
Your pen name is anglo. The same thing that all Francos do nowadays when they want their kids to have a decent secondary school or university education for that matter, they send them to either Bamenda or Buea. Yet, you call them Biafrans. If being called Biafra is synonymous with excellence, I will take it anytime, anywhere.
Good day sir.

TAGRO

"Re-unification"?

Mallam Shehu

Where on earth is Njimafor? We're being termed Biafrians. I am surprised that you've knowingly docked your tail on that one, all you care about is the truth Mallam says.
@the rustic calling Cameroonians Biafrians. Watch your innuendos. Such a cheap ranting will bring us nowhere. You're no tramp, stop the buffoonery.

X

War or no war we will make a nation.Ambazonia.

kum

Its the better tuth. The soldier ant will keep on struggle till death sqeeze life out of it.

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