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rexon

La Republique du camerouns colonialist and all their agents of darkness cannot deprive the Southern Cameroonian people of the freedom they deserve. Of all he UN trust territories, only the Southern Cameroons is still under occupation. This time, the colonisation is not from the European colonialist but from their French Neighbours (La Republique Francaise du Cameroun) with the collaboration of some Southern Cameroonian sell-outs including the handclappers in parliament masquerading as a political party. It is very important that Southern Cameroonians fight for their rights and should all follow the footsteps of Chief Ayamba, Carlson Anyangwe, Nfor Ngalla Nfor, Dr Munzu, Ekontang Elad, Ngorji Ndinka, Late Bernard Fonlon, Albert Mukong, Dr Luma, etc. These were intellectuals who had earlier recognised the threat posed by la republique francaise du cameroun on our cultural, social, economic and political heritage. As early as 1984, they has recognised the fact that La Republique du cameroun is focused on destroying the social, economic and political aspirations of Southern Cameroonians. They were closing everything Southern Cameroons, from Powercam, Cameroon Bank, Tiko and Limbe Ports, they were destroying our economy, bringing down our educational system. They were actually focused on destroying all what is of the Southern Cameroonian heritage.

We all need to take the courage to act with conviction in a variety of settings. We have tried to coperate with these colonialist and have never got the story we expected. Recently, two of our own were shot and slained by these colonial agents and all we heard of was that they were "an assorted group of assailants that attacked the police station". I think this is the last chance for Southern Cameroonians to defend their land. Ignorance can no longer be an excuse. We have suffered a highly visible setback and all that belongs to us has been grounded. We need to regain our territory and disentangle all the bad habits and practices that has been incorporated from this failed Union with La Republique Francaise du cameroun.

ftroit

The sample document below is what all Southern Cameroon movements (all of them, SCNC, SCYL, Ambazonia, or whatever denomination they might be referred to), need to produce. and then Present it to the government of La Republique, the UN, the AU, other interested states and that's it. I say so because the point many people seem to overlook and disregard is the fact that Southern Cameroons joined this union VOLUNTARILY. It's not like it did not have another option. In fact it did and in law, it did. Southern Cameroons (or whatever name it was called at the time) was a State by itself before becoming part of a unitary state. Yes it was a state; part of a federal union.

What is a Federation: A federation (Latin: foedus, covenant) is a union comprising a number of partially SELF-GOVERNING states or regions united by a central ("federal") government. (Source Wikipedia).

Southern Cameroons is in its right to announce its divorce from the union, just like the for 4 Southern U.S. states did right before the 1861 American Civil War. (While it is known that the 4 states seceded because they were opposed to Lincoln's (and the northern states') emancipation of slaves, the idea and matter of fact is that they had that right to secede from the union, and in fact they did and then later came back into the union.

Cameroon's case may be a lil bit different where a unitary state is in existence. Now the questions arise.

1)Does the unitary state that only existed since 1972 have more rights than the federal state that existed in the 1960s? NO, THE DRAFTERS OF THE UNITARY CONSTITUTION RECOGNIZED THAT AND IT IS FOR THAT REASON THAT NO PROVISION WAS INCLUDED IN THE 1972 CONSTITUTION FORBIDDING A RETURN TO THE ORIGINAL UNION AT THE VERY LEAST.

2)Did both the constitutions of the federal republic of Cameroon and of the United Republic of Cameroon (including the present constitution) forbid an eventual right to severe the bonds of unity? (a note on this: the constitution of France forbids any change of form of its regime from a Republic, meanin it can never go back to its empire days without a constitutional amendment reversing this provision. We all know how many French republics there have been. Not sure, this is probably the fifth or so. IN CAMEROON THIS IS NOT THE CASE. NO WHERE IN THE MOST IMPORTANT DOCUMENT IN CAMEROON BEING ITS CONSTITUTION DOES IN FORBID A CHANGE IN FORM, NO WHERE DOES IS FORBID THE TWO STATES THAT CAME TOGETHER TO DISUNITE)

3)Was Southern Cameroons a "sovereign state" at the time it achieved independence? This is a long discourse that i have outlined. The short answer is YES.

4) There is no longer any issue as to whether the failure of one of the contracting parties to perform a material part of the agreement, entirely releases the obligation of the other because this is clearly the case in Cameroon.


An Ordinance:
To dissolve the union between the State of Texas and the other States, united under the compact styled "The Constitution of the United States of America."
Adopted in Convention, at Austin City, the first day of February, A.D. 1861.

Related Links
Narrative history of Secession and Readmission | Narrative history of Annexation

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Whereas,
the Federal Government has failed to accomplish the purposes of the compact of union between these States, in giving protection either to the persons of our people upon an exposed frontier, or to the property of our citizens; and, whereas, the action of the Northern States of the Union is violative of the compact between the States and the guarantees of the Constitution; and whereas the recent developments in Federal affairs, make it evident that the power of the Federal Government is sought to be made a weapon with which to strike down the interests and prosperity of the people of Texas and her Sister slaveholding States, instead of permitting it to be, as was intended, our shield against outrage and aggression:


Therefore,
Section 1
We, the People of the State of Texas, by Delegates in Convention assembled, do declare and ordain, that the Ordinance adopted by our Convention of Delegates, on the Fourth day of July, A.D. 1845, and afterwards ratified by us, under which the Republic of Texas was admitted into Union with other States and became a party to the compact styled "The Constitution of the United States of America" be, and is hereby repealed and annulled; That all the powers, which by said compact were delegated by Texas to the Federal Government, are revoked and resumed; That Texas is of right absolved from all restraints and obligations incurred by said compact, and is a separate Sovereign State, and that her citizens and people are absolved from all allegiance to the United States, or the Government thereof.


Section 2
This ordinance shall be submitted to the people of Texas for ratification or rejection by the qualified voters thereof, on the 23rd day of February 1861, and unless rejected by a majority of the votes cast, shall take effect and be in force on and after the 2nd day of March, A.D. 1861. Provided, that in the Representative District of El Paso, said election may be held on the 19th day of February, A.D. 1861.

Adopted in Convention, at Austin City, the first day of February, A.D. 1861.


SOURCE:
The Constitution of the State of Texas, as Amended in 1861, The Constitution of the Confederate States of America, The Ordinances of the Texas Convention, and An Address to the People of Texas. Austin: Printed by John Marshall, State Printer, 1861. pp. 18-19.


WE REALLY DO NOT NEED A WAR. WE NEED MONEY THOUGH. IF SOUTHERN CAMEROONS CAN DO THIS AND CREATE ITS OWN PASSPORTS, the rest shal follow. The territory of Palestinia has its passports and at least 70 countries including the USA have already acknowledged the Palestinian passport.

ftroit

Southern Cameroon needs to get its name [back] (if it used to be) on the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories.

On December 2, 1986, New Caledonia, then a territoire d'outre-mer, was reinstated on the list of non-self-governing territories, a step that caused protest from France. New Caledonia is the only French-administered territory presently on the list although it has been enjoying the status of a collectivité sui generis since 1999 and its Territorial Congress holds the right, since the 1998 Nouméa Accord, to call for a referendum on independence after 2014.

ftroit

Or may be the KNDP party needs to be rescucitated since it was the KNDP government that signed the union papers. Who's in for the formation of the KNDP party? I'm in and i want to be president, vote me(Laughing Out Loud)

M Nje

"WE NEED MONEY THOUGH"
Froit

Hi Froit,
You have come back to the same point that I have been trying to make. That is we need MONEY. The case of Southern Cameroons is so clear to every non-Southern Cameroonians I have spoken to. From University professor to very respected jurist. La Republique knows that very well. I have suggested that we have a SOUTHERN CAMEROONS LIBERATION TAX. I can assure you that with money will can do a lot. I hope our leaders are listening. Southern Cameroons has a legal right to exist.

“I say so because the point many people seem to overlook and disregard is the fact that Southern Cameroons joined this union VOLUNTARILY.”
Froit

Hi Froit,
I think you miss a little point. You know that during the UN deliberation for the Trusted Territory of Former British Southern Cameroon it was the British Ambassador who opposed the third question for the plebiscite: FULL INDEPENDENCE. This was in total violation of the Trusteeship agreement. It is clear from declassified documents that the British had a hidden agenda: Southern Cameroons cannot attained FULL INDEPENDENCE. The question is WHY. WHY put the future of an entire Nation into such a situation. The British betrayed the TRUST that the UN gave them. We cannot let that pass on to the next generation. We must take back our Nation.

“Note: These are countries that were against such a union citing the violation of the Trusteeship agreement, and noting that there shall be future political (constitutional), socio-cultural and economic problems!

Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Cambodia, CAMEROUN, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Congo (Brazzaville), Congo (Leopoldville), Dahomey, France, Gabon, Greece, Israel, Ivory Coast, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Niger, Paraguay, Senegal, Upper Volta, Uruguay.”
http://www.ambazonia.indymedia.org/en/2002/10/71.shtml

Time has proven that these countries where right.

Did you check the list again, even La Republique was agains any union. Their subsequent behavior has proven that they don`t really care about our presence in their country. They have no regard for our well-being. I am sometimes very supprise to see Southern Cameroonians defending this illegal "UNION" a 'union' that one party voted against.

Peace my Friend.

Akoson

Ftroit,

We'd thought that thought before. I'm talking about passports and stuff. Your brief argument is just so nice and succinct. But I'm afraid we're no more discussing that language. That language is old language for old people - octagenerians. We now discuss an entirely different language. It is too late for PASSPORT talks. Thank God we'd been patient enough to exhaust all other corriders and we've realised that those things don't pay.

The language is an entirely different one.
It's not for this space!

The clock's ticking: tick-tock, tick-tock,tick-tock.

The Son.

Akoson

corridors NOT corriders

ftroit

Well,

While I'm not intending to be critical of on-going and past maneuvers, I think quite much has been done, but there remains a few gaps that if filled could, in my opinion, change a whole lot. I laud the efforts at bringing suit against the government of Nigeria, i laud the case before the African Court in the Gambia, I laud the pressure being placed on the UN, I also praise registration in the UNPO. however, it is my contention and opinion that an overt and outright declaration of the statehood of Southern Cameroons (not merely the wish of obtaining it as proclaimed by the SCNC) is yet to be carried out. I believe such a move will be an indication to the Court in the Gambia of The People of Southern Cameroons resolve and determination to acceed to independence. It is my opinion that it could bolster the outcome of the claim/case. It should get at a point where the Court will feel that Ok these people are determined and there is no turning back, they've already proclaimed their Nation. I seem to decipher from your blog, Mr. Akoson, that war is the only remedy at this point. If that is a correct interpretation, well, I disagree on that. Even if there's gonna be an altercation, Southern Cameroons cannot afford to be the attacker. I believe that if Southern Cameroons goes ahead and proclaims it's statehood, the RDPC government will naturally retaliate anyway and in a military manner.
This is my plan:
-declare the breakaway from LRC and declare a Nation,
-file suit against the governments of various nations in a bid to obtain an injunction whose purpose will forbid the governments of those countries from considering Southern Cameroons as part of LRC (just as was done in Nigeria- the problem with the Nigeria case is that Southern Cameroons has not yet been declared or held out to the international community as an independent, hence making the injunction obtained being baffled over and over again). I plan to do this here in the U.S. hopefully this year. Having some stuff on my hands right now and hopefully will be done with them.

In fact, this is stuff the SCNC leaders here should be doing rather than 'eating' up money from asylum seekers and having sex with asylum seekers (and underage asylum seekers).

Ndiks


http://www.edennewspaper.com/edition146/scncnotsessionist.htm


SCNC Not Secessionists -Fru Ndi
By Aminateh Nkemngu

The National Chairman of the Social Democratic Front , SDF , Ni john Fru Ndi has stated that the southern Cameroon national council the SCNC which the government claims is a seperationist group is rather a group of disenchanted English speaking Cameroonians who are struggling to free Anglophones from the centralised ,corrupt and inefficient system of governance.
In a one hour fifteen minute interview over Eden Radio FM 98.I in Limbe yesterday morning, Ni John Fru Ndi explained that it is rather Paul Biya who is a true secessionist because he has deliberately refused to heed to the call of the Cameroonian people for a federal system of government thereby causing some advocates of a federal system of government to become extremists.

Fruu Ndi greeted at Limbe rally


It is the desperate people advocating for equality between Anglophones and Francophones, who after trying to no avail to cause Biya to allow people to govern themselves, have now gone the extra mile of calling for a return to the pre 1972 status.
The SDF chieftain held that his party was the first to propose a federal system of government which would meet the aspirations of local people to manage themselves. Rather, he explained , the government has gone ahead to chart a smokescreen decentralization plan which still chains all Cameroonians to the yoke of bureaucracy and servitude to a central government which has refused to respond to the changing times.
Responding to a question on how he could be the chairman of a national party and at the same time an adviser to the SCNC, Fru Ndi stated unequivocal terms, that he still stands for one and indivisible Cameroon on the platform of a federal structure which will empower local populations and initiate development action . He further wondered why the present regime should be working for the secession of Cameroon by putting in place a system where by each area will benefit from and use the natural resources in its area.
In this regard Fru Ndi questioned how the government intends other parts of the country which do not have natural resources to develop, reason why he noted, “Biya is sowing seeds of discord, antagonism, disunity and secession”.
He further suggested that structures that foster unity and national development could be put in place quoting countries like Sierra Leone where 30 percent of natural resources revenue are invested in the area from where they are exploited,30 percent to areas that have no natural resources and 60 percent to the central administration.
While on Eden Radio the chairman made significant clarifications in the situation in the SDF notably on the possibility of him quitting the position of party chairman . Fru Ndi said this depends on the will of the electorate and not the flimsy utterances of people like Ben Muna. On the continuous resignation of some party members which he noted was inconsequential because all of them including Siga Asanga, Maidadi Seydou Ben Muna Tazoacha Asonganyi Martin Nkemngu have failed wherever they are given. He said so far non of them has been able to come up with proposals and actions that surmount the SDF let alone create an impact in any other political party they have joined
The chairman also castigated the bad faith in which the government created ELECAM but however urged Cameroonians in general and the Limbe population in particular to register massively for upcoming elections
Hundreds of Limbe inhabitants including old men and women residing around the radio premises also came out in their numbers to shake hands with him.
Another mammoth crowd gathered around the Limbe provincial hospital , mile one right up to Unity Quarters where the radio is located to greet the SDF chieftain .Some of them however went home very bitter and even threatened the driver of EDEN Media Group who had led the chairman’s motorcade via the road leading to the his Bota residence , passing through the Limbe public security police station instead of the one passing by the hospital .Some of the angry admirers of Fru Ndi later stormed the radio premises promising hell to the driver whom they believe had deliberately stopped them from shaking hands with the chairman and having photographs with him.

Ndiks

http://www.edennewspaper.com/edition148/boycot.htm


SDF Won't Boycott Electio - Fru Ndi
By Aminateh Nkemngu

The National Chairman of the Social Democratic Front, SDF, Ni John Fru Ndi suffers from no election fever. The SDF will not boycott the forth coming elections. The SDF chairman was reacting to some misrepresentation of NEC?s declaration in their last meeting in Limbe, that ?No ELECAM, No Election?. He was speaking with Eden in a telephone conversation over the weekend. fullstory: He said the NEC declaration simply enjoined Cameroonians to put pressure on President Biya to honour his commitments to Cameroonians in his 2006 end of year speech, to provide Cameroonians with an Independent Electoral body for the management of elections before the next elections. He said this declaration is not synonymous to election boycott. Fru Ndi said Cameroonians have the power and legitimate right to put pressure on the president to honour his promise. He said this has happened in other countries, why not in Cameroon. The chairman blamed some journalists for misrepresentation of facts. He said all through his speeches and even interviews with journalists there is nowhere he said the SDF will boycott elections.

Fruu Ndi greeted at Limbe rally


If I said the SDF will boycott elections, why then did I ask people to register?? he argued. He reiterated NEC?s call for the president to defend the oath of office he took by effectively putting in place ELECAM to manage the forth coming elections. ?We believe that the forthcoming elections stand postponed for 18 months if necessary?, said another party supporter ?to enable President Biya set up ELECAM which was a non negotiable condition for elections? But for those who understand the mechanics of elections in Cameroon, the president seems even far more enthusiastic about a likely postponement. NEC Member Disclaims Boycott Also speaking to Eden, Louis Shalo a member of the national Executive Committee, NEC of SDF said NEC?s statement of NO ELECAM, No Elections does not mean boycott. He added that SDF detractors were deliberately misinterpreting one of the resolutions of NEC after they failed to abort it through intrigue and subterfuge. Louis Shalo said the statement, No ELECAM No elections was a sincere appeal to President Paul Biya to honour his commitment to the Cameroonian people, that an independent electoral body will be put in place before any subsequent elections. ?Let Biya honour his commitment and prove to the nation and the world that he is a man with vision?, Shalo emphasized. Shalo said the resolution was an appeal to Biya to honour his commitment to ensure that elections are free and fair and that the creation of ELECAM was the fulfillment of the president?s promise to ensure that an independent electoral body conducts future elections. He added that it was also an appeal to Cameroonians to take their destinies in their hands and Biya to task to honour his obligations, an appeal to friends of Cameroon, the diplomatic corps and international financial community to add their voice. On MINATD?s response that elections were constitutionally programmed and could not be postponed, Louis Shalo conceded but went on to say that the president had the powers to postpone elections when the need arose. Shalo pointed out that SDF?s call for postponement of elections for 18 months was in the interest of the president and Cameroonians and in line with the international community?s demands for free and fair elections. On the eventuality of government going ahead with its plan, Shalo said the SDF has many options but boycott was not one. To prove his point, Shalo said the SDF was calling on its militants to register massively for the elections. Reacting to the probability of MINATD endorsing the Ben Muna faction UPC style, Shalo rule this out completely saying that MINATD?s recognition of Ni John Fru Ndi as the legitimate leader of the SDF, drawing from the MINATD position on the twice banned SDF NEC meeting and earlier consultations between Fru Ndi and PM Inoni.

rexon

It is a little bit embarassing the way NJFN is trying to humiliate Southern Cameroonians.

He describes us as

"a group of disenchanted Southern Cameroonians trying to free themselves from the centralised, corrupt and inefficient system of governance"

I will like the Watesih, Fon, Feli, Klemeceau, Maverick, Atangha, etc to comprehend this statement and other statements of NJFN about SCNC and tell us where the SDF stands in our fight for the decolonisation of our territory. I dont want to comment as i will be branded a Biya agent. But let them explain to me in very simple english since i cannot comprehend written english what NJFN means.

M Nje

Ndiks,
Thanks for the posting. If the content of the interview above is correct, then I am greatly surprise to hear Mr. Ni John Fru Ndi describe 6 million Southern Cameroonians as
"a group of disenchanted Southern Cameroonians trying to free themselves from the centralised, corrupt and inefficient system of governance"

I have admired this man`s courage and determination to fight for the poor. I have publicly made that in this forum. But this statement leaves me with many many questions than answers. Does he really understand what the S.C.N.C. is fighting for at this moment. Does he even know that Southern Cameroon is not a LEGAL member of La Republique. The AAC1 and AAC2 gave Mr. Biya and his boss in Paris a chance to reversed to the 1961 Federation (which was illegal in the first place because 1) by imposing that another Trusted Territory: Southern Cameroons should join La Republique violates the Trustee agreement 2) the UK did not take part in the 1961 Federation arrangement process as mandated by the UN). He clearly stated that it is expense and not worthy. The AAC2 clearly gave the S.C.N.C. the mandate to restore the Independence of Southern Cameroons.

I respect the fact that every human being has a human right to decide if he wants to be a citizen of La Republique or The Federal Republic of Southern Cameroons. Frankly he seems to prefer the later. That is his right.

I feel sorry for those who still believe that he or his party has a hidden agenda to free Southern Cameroon if he or it every won an election (that will not happen in 2000 years). That is fallacy.

This is the same baseless arguments that our founding fathers made to join la Republique in an illegal union. He seems to be following the same path that Dr. Jonh Ngu Foncha followed : THE ILLUSION THAT A FEDERATION WITH LA REPUBLIQUE IS THE BEST OPTION FOR SOUTHERN CAMEROONS. I hope he will one day like Forcha realized that La Republique is ran from PARIS not from Yaounde. The French do not believe in Federation and it will never happen in La Republique Francaise Du Cameroon.

I just don`t understand why anyone can advocate that Southern Cameroonians continue to beg to be part of La Republique when even La Republique voted against such a union at the UN. I just don`t get it.

NB: I am not suggesting by any stretch of imagination that the Southern Cameroons struggle cannot be achieve without public support from Mr. Ni John and/or the SDF. The contrary is true.

So my fellow Southern Cameroonians don`t be distracted by such statements. History will prove who is right. I am just afraid that history has it that freedom fighters alway prevail.

Watesih

Rexon,
In as much as we are ready to continue educating you about the SDF,and to an extent about your English as you desire,it will be better for you not to continue to smear yourself with filth in this way.Why can a man of you calibre make himself a laughing stock in the eyes of the World? Imagine everybody is unnerved about the treatment our brothers are getting from these forces of disorder,but this will always mean nothing to you.Granted that somebody explained to you how the SDF intends to decolonise the Southern Cameroons
,how is that going to liberate our brothers who are languishing in jail,Mr Rexon? You move from one stale sublime mysticism to another.From Hogbe Nlend said,Njoh Mouelle said,Danpullo said,Mitterand said,to Sdf founded to decolonise Southern Cameroons.
Lets assume SDF was founded to decolonise the Southern Cameroonians,and that you who militated in the SDF would have made sure that this comes to fruition.But we are surprised that you are the one who is inconsolable when your fellow villager Sn Tita is chided for dragging the Southern Cameroons course in the mud.Despite the fact that you know Sn Tita should be charged for High Treason,you have deliberately tried to take the Southern Cameroonian people for fools.You are helplessly trying to make a link between Sn Tita`s abandonning of the SNCN fight with Fru Ndi`s SDF activities.
English Speaking Cameroonians have gone beyond that level as not to see the fast one you want to pull on them.What is the link between SN Tita`s flag hoisting,escape to Nigeria,strange romance with Muna`s SDF,and Fru Ndi? Rexon imagine that everybody is talking about thr trial that involves our brothers,but you are talking about Fru Ndi whom you say you personally hate.How would Cameroonians take you seriously when you bombard them with stale ideas about somebody you personally hate.By declaring that you hate Fru Ndi did you measure the intensity of this statement? Did you know that people will think whatever you say about him is coloured by your personal hatred for him?
One wonders why you spend sleepless nights writing about the person you hate.
We know you live in London,where the people who sent spies to Switzerland to spy on Fru Ndi when his wife died also live.We also know these same guys were the first to declare for Ngwasiri in the international Media,and promised funds for his Yaounde convention.We haven`t forgotten that the same guys said Fru Ndi was declared Persona non grata in London,and they even said Europe.The question is ,since Ngwasiri went on his knees in front of Fru Ndi,where are they going to hide their shame? Do they think they can really count on Rexon`s poor knowledge of the SDF,situation about Cameroon,and extremely poor English to wreak havoc on Fru Ndi`s image? The answer is definitely no!
Rexon,Muna works for La Republique to destabilise the SDF,Sn Tita your fellow villager works for Muna,and you are Sn Tita`s mouth piece,so you are a Biya agent,
and thus perpetuating French squeeze on Southern Cameroonians.This is the link.Don`t pretend to question Fon on how and why you should be presented as a Biya agent.Also it is quite serious that your brother had such strong feelings about the murderous Cpdm regime,whereas some of you his brothers were in the SDF.A University student is definitely the person to make a better appreciation of things,but your brother decided to worship the Charles Doumba.We have seen child soldiers in other countries,they are equally as deadly as their older colleagues.So one of your family members even started dining with devils a longtime ago.No wonder you want to copy him now ,and go back tp join the SN Titas ,who now have the authority to give diretives to the Divisional Officers of La Republique they once ran away from.
Rexon,as to Fru Ndi`s statement that you do not comprehend as usual,it is an apt description of who we are.Are we not unhappy,disappointed people trying to free ourselves from the grip of an autocratic, corrupt,and lack-lustre system of government? Of course we are.Fru Ndi doesn`t need to define this for us.As to where the SDF stand in 'your' fight to decolonise the Southern Cameroons,the SDF is a National party that is playing National politics.In the course of doing this,it is aware that Southern Cameroonians have a problem that can be looked into if it accedes to power.This can take the form of a referandum
or other constitutional means.The SDF frowns at the iron fisted measures the government employs to go about this issue.Rexon more questions?

Watesih

M Nje,
This flip-flopping about the SDF and SCNC has no use.Southern Cameroonians have understood what the problem is .But if you want to be waisting your time picking up the pieces that Rexon picks out to provoke a fight with Fru Ndi ,and the SDF,then you are missing the point.Instaed of talking about concrete things on the field,we spend write ups and write ups talking about the relationship between a Political party,and a freedom movement.Lets assume that Fru Ndi wants to keep playing his La Republique politics and doesn`t want to do anything for Southern Cameroons,why not forget about him,and prove the contrary.Why is Rexon cosying up to Fru Ndi and SDF ideas in order to have a political agenda? You have said it clearly that the Southern Cameroon `s struggle can come to fruition,without Fru Ndi.That is the good thing we want to see.We need action,and not weeping up sentiments on the internet.Your statement that history will prove whether it is the freedom fighter or the politician that carries the day,shows how this SCNC fight is being reduced to fight one politician,one party,instead of La Republique.This is pitiful,that young people who would have given the SCNC a vision,have reduced it to a movement suffering from FILIAL SQUABBLES.By hanging on to Fru Ndi`s name even when we should be talking about the trial of our brothers shows those who pretend to speak for the SCNC want to achieve POLITICAL RECOGNITION through the SDF.We are in 2007,and even in the next 30 to 100 years we will fight cowardice,
posturing,and chalatanism.

M Nje

Hi Watesih,
I was responding to the analysis of the interview with Eden news paper. What do you expect. That I should not response.

There is no "flip-flopp" my friend. I have never I mean never been a member of any political party in Cameroon. I admire the person Ni John Fru Ndi, because I saw him runing arround the country and taking major risk. That does not make me a member of the SDF.

Just as I did admire Mr. Asong Wara, Mr. Mbi, the Teacher Association of Cameroon (TAC and other parents in Yaounde when they stood for the establishment of the GCE board. That does not make me a member of TAC.

Just as I admire the students of the University of Buea who stood up to defend academic honesty that even the VC shamedully shy away from. That does not make me a member of the UB student union.

The is a long list of Southern Cameroon journalist whom I admire for risking their lives and career to defend the interest of Southern Cameroonians during the 1990s. That does not make me a member of any group of journalist.

If any of these individual or groups above fails short of my expectation then I will not stop to express my surprise and comment. I am not a blind failure of any person or group.

You are getting it wrong. I have looked at the plateform of most of the political parties in La Republique and they makes me really laugh. They reason even the CPDM can win a single election in Camerron is becasue a big portion of the electorate uninformed or lack the ability to make critical political analysis. They vote for individuals and not platforms.

In my public and private association, I do not affiliate myself to any group or movement without looking at its platforms. And if that platforms does not meet the prevailing dynamic, I do question its relevance.

Do not be in any illusion that I have any interest in the affairs of any political party in La Republique including the SDF. But I will not relent to comment when such a party, group, or individuals make a statment that is worth commenting.

Rene Dibi


I had long said FRU Ndi was more dangerous to the Southern Cameroonians than Mr Biya.
What a preposterous statement “a group of disenchanted Southern Cameroonians trying to free themselves from the centralized, corrupt and inefficient system of governance”
This is a man who does not know his history. Yet a group of iguanas in the name of netters are on this forum to support him. How can Fru Ndi and his disciples be blind to see that the Federation between the two Countries was illegal? With what documents or treaty would Fru Ndi be advocating for Federation ?

It is a thousand times better to have common sense without education than to have education without common sense., but it is worst to lack both.

Watesih

M Nje,
Very good.When one goes through your last write up there`s no where the Scnc is mentioned.This shows that you want to make a distinction between your concerns about a Political party ,and your reservations about a freedom movement.But in your previous article you were trying to play up that futile attempt Rexon has been crafting here to divide English speaking Cameroonians,by articulating the dichotomy between the SDF,and the SCNC.We this generation of Cameroonian ,especially Southern Cameroonian are not going to tolerate finger pointing in the name of freedom fighting.Either the SCNC is a Freedom Movement,or it is a National Party.And if the later proves to be the case,we will call on Fru Ndi to consider those who want to pass for Freedom fighters only in name as National Politicians,and use the language that is fit for political opponents.Get it clear.From now on,Fru Ndi will be treating any apprenti freedom fighter`s utterances depending on whether he or she is seeking for notice on National issues,or carving out anything palpable for the Southern Cameroon`s people.Fru Ndi is not good at gossipping like them,but when he comes out,the wind only settles after a longtime.

rexon

I am glad i have succeeded in reducing SDF prophets in this forum to an ongoing negotiation of status and recognition from the Southern Cameroonian people. I am praying that Watesih should not commit suicide since i am struggling to destroy the SDF and take away his daily bread. Just advise NJFN that the battle is more than you and concentrate on searching for a job, rather than making yourself an eternal fool and a laughing stock to readers in this forum. They keep promising to ignore Rexon, but sinc they know Rexon is a torn to their daily bread, they keep bombarding this forum with this or that information about Rexon, etc. I Cant count the number of times Watesih, Fon, Atangha, Feli, Maverick, etc has advised each other to ignore Rexon. Yet they keep going against thier own wish and making themselves a laughing stock to readers in this forum. I know you cannot ignore when i touch your NJFN and i will continue touching him untill he go and sleep with all his lies telling. One day, Baba Danpullo is his friend, Another day, he is flirting with Paul biya and his gang of CPDM bandits, another day,he is preaching no Independent electoral commision, no election, another day he is struggling to defend ELECAM and telling people how others won election without IEC. what a shame? This man beyond reasonable doubt is being paid to colour la republique as a multi-party democracy. I am glad intellectuals from the Southern Cameroons are all rejecting SDF apart from a few that are directly under the payroll of NJFN and his gang of bandits masquerading as an SDF. Resistance forces and their dependants has never hidden their desire to defend their identity and identify with it. Any rightminded Southern Cameroonian need to identify themselves with any of our freedom fighting movement be in SCNC, SCYL, AMBAZONIA, SCAPO, SCARM, etc. We shall not be reduced into trying to force ourselves into any reassimilation into La Republiques way of life as the business entity, the SDF wants to force us.

It is known beyond reasonable doubts that the NJFN's prophets in this forum are being paid by him to defend him in this forum. Get it clear from today readers. Let me breakdown their background.

Feli-Based in Cameroon, he is an executive of the SDF and works with the likes of Maitre Mbami, Elisabeth Tamanjong, etc. He and Atangha are charged with the responsibility of liasing with media organs and paying some journalist to defend the SDF.

Atangha- Based in Bamenda in the Southern Cameroons, he is also the right hand man of NJFN and works with their secretariat. He is also directly under the payroll of NJFN.

Fon and Watesih- Based in the United States, these guys have direct connections with NJFN and are very close to his family. So they have a selfish reason for supporting him even when he is wrong. They are very argumentative and are being paid for the job or arguing and defending NJFN even when he is wrong.

Now, lets gets to the crux of the matter. Watesih and Feli wants to make a distinction between Freedom fighting and a national party. My God, what national party of what nation? La Republique or the Southern Cameroons? Let me make it clea to you watesih, the only nation we Southern Cameroonians recognise is the Southern Cameroons and we do not have any political party in the form of the SDF. If any political party is marketing itself as a Southern Cameroonian movement (watesih defined it our thing), then that political party does not need to be registered and dictated from the laws of la republique. It is shameless and embarassing for some groups of poeple to be passing as Southern Cameroonians in La Republiques parliament, when they can only keep begging Mr Biya to define and Independent electoral commision for them in the form of ELECAM rather than giving them one.

Watesih, it is simply because conflicts needs to be kept within acceptable limits. If not, i would have bombarded this forum with my revelations that will scare everyone from supporting this NJFN and his business entity called the SDF. Watesih, every Londoner knows what NJFN is capable of doing because his children lives here and he habitually visits them. Get it clear from today, they have all abandoned the SDF for the SCNC and its sister organisations because they know that his SDF is a business entity with no specific agenda.

I speak the truth here. I made it clear that i have known Pa SN Tita as an extended relative and as a family friend. I also made it clear that during our childhood, i had a brother who idolised with Biya and Ndoumba. As you cannot comprehend written English, you started flip-flopping that he sent me to europe using CPDM funds from his executive position in the party, etc. When i reminded you guys that he left Cameroon after high school for abroad and has never militated in la republique or the Southern Cameroons, u tend to lack words and change your usual direction of arguments.

to be continued...........

rexon

Rene Dibi wrote:

"I had long said FRU Ndi was more dangerous to the Southern Cameroonians than Mr Biya"

We know, that is why we are explaining the dichotomy between NJFN's SDF and the Southern Cameroonian movement. It is nice he is comfirming this by telling the world how he stands for a unitary state and no Southern Cameroons. I was very happy when i read your message late last week from abroad. I could not comment when the Watesih's were lying to readers in this forum because of my commitment. While we are struggling to defend our land, some groups of handclappers are busy making money and flirting for contracts with La Republique in Yaounde, and giving a share to the watesihs to defend them here. We must win this war with the La Republique and all their agents In the Southern Cameroons including the SDF.

tayong

Watesih
Gentleman ,sometimes I disagree totally with your take on those who criticise the SDF. I also disagree with this view of yours that Southern Cameroonians who criticise the SDF are CPDM loyalists. Not really Watesih. If you have a political insight you can always tell the weeds from the crops.

Let's go logical abit here. We take the SDF MPs for instance who come only from Southern Cameroon(I stand to be corrected here). They represent them in particular and the nation at large. Now opinion polls ,you will agree, within the Southern Cameroon shows more than 90%(statistics debatable) in favour of total separation from La Republique, the questions some people ask is how are their voices echoed by the SDF MPs since they got their mandates from these very people?

Mr Watesih, let me remind you that there's nothing unconstitutional to challenge the authenticity of a failed Union. The Zanzibarians did it through the assembly, the Montenegro did it through the Assembly etc etc. SDF MPs too are feeling the pinch of marginalisation like any other Southern Cameroon but elect( maybe out of fear) not to be the voice of the their people.Thats the bone of contention of some people.If they can't represent the voices of the MAJORITY people who gave them the mandate why then are they there?

Another school of thought says that SDF MPs are afraid to be brandished as terrorist reasons for their silence over the liberation struggle. Feli or Frutah claimed that when SDF shall ascend to power they will be the Fako-Kilum province giving Southern Cameroon their independence, that sounds juicy but where'll Bamilikes in the SDF be since they can't stand to give up North West ? There're alot of complexities in the SDF constitutional platform.Well for now some Southern Cameroons seems to be giving you guys the benefit of the doubt!

As for Mr John Fru Ndi , no one denies he's been and is still a courageous man but then its only when you are able to take succint political punch that you can steer the course. Your colleagues's brandishing of all Fru Ndi's critics as CPDM agents seems to me naive .Not all are CPDM agents!Thats politics. All cupboards must be searched for skeletons. The head that wears the crown receives the punches so guys stop this cycle of accusations and counter accusations.
Cheers.
Tayong

Danny Boy

Gentlemen, I am finding it difficult following the thrust of your arguments above. Take for example these excerpts from Rexon and Rene Dibi;
"Watesih, every Londoner knows what NJFN is capable of doing because his children lives here and he habitually visits them. Get it clear from today, they have all abandoned the SDF for the SCNC and its sister organisations because they know that his SDF is a business entity with no specific agenda." Rexon (08/02/2007)
"I had long said FRU Ndi was more dangerous to the Southern Cameroonians than Mr Biya." Rene Dibi(08/02/2007)
"I was very happy when i read your message late last week from abroad." Rexon commenting on Rene Dibi's assertion above.(08/02/2007).
How could Rexon have read this message last week, given that it has just been posted to this forum, this morning? If he had seen this earlier maybe a reference would be in order. The point I would like to make here is, " this cycle of accusations and counter accusations" as Tayong says, is not the way forward.
As for my take on this failed union with La Republique, I would strongly suggest we explore the possible path to Devolution as well.

rexon

Danny Boy,

Watesih is the one accusing people. I am always good out pointing out things to people and i learn from what they point out to me alse even though i might not agree with all. Just last week, a muslim politician here in the UK was telling the world after the governments decision to open large casino's in manchester that he does not condone with gambling simply because it is illegal and immoral. But when i want to inform the world that NJFN as a christian is not supposed to have business dealings with PMUC, and other wrongdoings of his regime even when an opposition, they turn to run their mouths around accusing me of being CPDM. PMUC Is an illegal company and should be driven out of the Southern Cameroons. Since NJFN is their business partner, we all need to be suspicious of him.

Dont get me wrong. I was not talking about this weeks message. The message last week was similar to this one and in that message, he made mention of the fact that he (Rene Dibi) has not been commenting on this SDF SCNC Dichotomy not because he does not see it but because i have been commenting on it. It was in this regards that i was commending him.

Thank you.

Ma Mary

Very revealing, JFN's interview to Eden. When the cock crows you shall deny me x3. My insight seems to be holding true. SDF is giving legitimacy to the occupier of the Southern Cameroons. There is no indirect path to the liberation of Southern Cameroons through the flawed politics of la Republique. That is a falsehood.

Fon

If I were an SCNC activist, my pre-occupation now would have been to embark on strategies that will lead to the release of Comrades in detention.However, I really smypathize with their situation.

Tayong
"Now opinion polls ,you will agree, within the Southern Cameroon shows more than 90%(statistics debatable) in favour of total separation from La Republique, the questions some people ask is how are their voices echoed by the SDF MPs since they got their mandates from these very people?"
"Mr Watesih, let me remind you that there's nothing unconstitutional to challenge the authenticity of a failed Union."

Good statements there Tayong? However, I doubt where your opinion poll was conducted and on the other hand I don´t dispute the fact that if there was a referandum today Southern Cameroonians will vote to secede.

Going to your statement concerning SDF MPs, the first correction is that they do not all come from Southern Cameroons; and to address your point, yes it is true that these MPs are the mouth piece of the electorates, but do you think these MPs should function base on rumour or represent the electorate base on rumour? Before each parliamentary session, the MPs go to their various constituencies to consult the electorate and the electorate tells them what they want. Have you ever heard that one of the demands of the electorates west of Mungo is a bill on secession to be tabled in parliament? You can´t blame the parliamentarians if they have never been officialy asked to do as you think. If there has been an official request and they shy away from it, then I can see meaning in what you are saying.

Tayong, don´t you think your pre-occupation now is to see that tracts are circulated in Southern Cameroons to mobilise the people to mount pressure for the detained scnc leaders to be released?

tayong

Mr Fon
I answer you buttom up. The preoccupation now is to fight for the release of the leaders in detention I agree. If you read the article above well you've read there that pressure coming from diverse quarters has been mounting on the regime to release them. We wont go into where the pressure is coming from but If you've been abreast with developments even within this forum then that question wouldnt have been asked.

Now going back to the source of my opinion poll , I'll summon you to search for unbiased sampling of Southern Cameroon Population on this issue. Good enough you agreed with me that should a referendum be thrown now you may even have a 110% vote in favour! Why the 10% extra ? Guess or think!

As to the tabling of a bill to demand for complete independence, Fon you must be kidding to make that statement above as a politician of your calibre whom I know in person. Electorate dont table bills but parlaimentarians do. Parlaimentarians gather even verbal info from the masses and then formulate bills from such background. The truth Fon is, SDF MPs of the Southern Cameroon Extraction are naive to this effect.


Prove me wrong Fon. Thats naked truth man.
Tayong

Rene Dibi

Hey Rexon

One thing we must not forget to understand is,It is not only the Southern Cameroons Activist like you and who are concerned with the misdirection’s of Mr Fru Ndi and the SDF.

Indeed just like Foncha had resigned from the CPDM Pa Mukong who indeed was the brain behind the creation of the SDF was so disenfranchised with the way the “book seller” was doing things, that he left for the SCNC. This is the same steps those Southern Cameroonians who joined the SDF because of the Southern Cameroons interest have all decamped for the SCNC. Name them, Nfor,Ayangwe,Feko, Luma etc.

Have we all easily forgotten that one of such Founding Father, Pa Feko declared that he moved away from the party when the party moved away from its original mission of working for a return to the two- state federation,

Now do the calculation for me, how many of those Founding fathers are still loyal to the SDF? How many of them are in support of the Southern Cameroons struggle?

Rexon, though I address this to you, I want those blind supporters of the Fru Ndi to react. In the Western Bakundo tribe where I come from we have an adage that” if a fish comes out of the water to tell you that a crocodile has four pairs of eyes, you do not have to argue”. Where you not here when Hon. Paulinus Jua, MP for Boyo, declared that the leadership of the Social Democratic Front, SDF, party reeks of feymania, occultism, corruption, nepotism, mercantilism, rumour mongering, blackmail, gossip and a host of other vices.?

Did you ever read Mr Biya’s communal liberalism? His ideas in that good were too good Judging from the book you could think that Mr Biya was the Messiah for Cameroonians. Unfortunately such ideas ended up as ideas. This is the same with the SDF.


Fon

Mr.Tayong,
The issue of pre-occupation towards the release of detained activists that I raised was general and not even to you. I know the role you have played so far. You must agreed with me that some of your comrades are pre-occupied instead with the blackmail of the SDF which I think will not help them except they have an ulterior motive.

I did not say the electorate table bills in parliament. I said they must make official demands which the MPs will act on inorder to formula bills and table in parliament. Parliamentarians can´t act especially on a sensitive issue base on what they think is in the mind of the electorate. That is not possible. To the best of my knowledge no constintuency west of Mungo has made such an official demand to their parliamentarian.

Rene Dibi

Hey Fon and Tayong,

If I get you both good, The case of Southern Cameroons detainees can NEVER be debated in any parliament of La Republique du Cameroun. La Republique du Cameroun has no powers, no right and no weight at all to discuss Southern Cameroons issue in their parliament.

For your information, The Southern Cameroons leaders who are detained have vowed not to leave prison even when they shall be ask to do so until they are charged. In the past, La Republique has arrested and detained such leaders and after weeks in jail, they are asked to go out. promising the state counsel would invite them. With their news laws in place, we shall disgrace them in their courts.

Let us be charged.

M Nje

Mr. Fon and Mr. Tayong,
What bill are you guys talking about. The SDF does not support the Independence of Southern Cameroons. That is in their platform. Their Chairman just made it clear above.

If an electorate event tries to suggest such a think he or she, without a doubt, will be sanctioned for violating the parties agenda.

One will expect that any true DEMOCRATIC party will advocate for a referendum to be conducted in the Southern Cameroons and not take a stand. It is call right to SELF-DETERMINATION. The people decide their fate and not politicians.

rexon

Fon,

Didnt you read where international researchers were advising the world that parliamentarians receive bribes to defend fake and immoral government bills? Then which parliamentarians are you telling the world that we should make official demands to?

Why is it that when someone tells the world that a system is not working well and the SDF is part and parcel of that system, the next thing that comes into others mind is that the person is trying to blackmail? We know there is a system in yaounde that is against our development and we also know the SDF is part of this system. Why should'nt we scrutinise and criticise them? The system is destroying our aspirations while the SDF has been employed to colour it as a multi-party democracy. Why should'nt we criticise the SDF?

There is a conflict here between believing in the system and believing in protecting our Southern Cameroonian values and that is what we have been trying to point out to you people that has taken us this long. You are either with the system or you are with us. Good, your SDF chieftain has pointed to you guys that the SDF stands for a Unitary state which is seemingly what is headed by la republique. In these regards, you guys have no reason to accuse us for anything. Now the conflict is between yourselves (SDF pundits) in being an SDF supporter or being for the Southern Cameroons.

If Fon, Watesih, Feli, Atangha, Maverick can openly tell us that they are for the system, fine. we shall know how to confront them. But lying to us that the SDF is our thing and soo too is the SCNC is a bit contradictory as the two ideologies are contradictory rather than complementary.

Cheers guys.

rexon

Rene Dibi,

I enjoy your reminders above esspecially as you cited the name of My Mentor (Late Dr Martin Ngeka Luma of Long Street Tiko). I decided to take the route of the SCNC since 11 Years ago when Dr Luma and one of his sons who used to be my friend and classmate pointed out to me the reasons why this SDF frolics was created. We all have to learn from our mistakes. The SDF was a mistake and i am glad our people are now learning that.

Cheers and good luck men.

tayong

Mr Rene Dibi

In Cameroon as any other nations there's a Constitutuonal Council that delebetates on issues like the case in question. Anyone of groups of individuals who feel that the constitution has been violated has the right to take their matters to this council. SDF MPS of the Southern Cameroon extraction have the people's mandate to formulate a bill to reflect the aspiration of the people they represent. This would neither be the first nor the last country where this would've happened. Examples abound worldwide.Check them out!

Let's be sometimes frank. A union existed between Southern Cameroon and La Republique .La Republique opted for unilateral divorce leaving Southern Cameroon with no option than acceptance. This is a case that can easily be filed and won outrightly .The facts are there,the evidence glaring and the defendants helpless and weary.

You cannot carry matters concerning Southern Cameroon to foreign courts and expect La Repubique to accept its verdict. That's outright defeat . We can win this case even within the territory of The Cameroons.

Mr Njie
I think you should address your concerns to Fon who claims the contrary not me. I dont dwell much on these SDF issues but rather tell them opportunities they allow slip off their hands. Last year Hon Ngu Jua failed to make use of an insult that was thrown on me by a fellow CPDM MP calling him Biafra(Nigerian).That put to question his very existence in that parliament. Nothing happened! So let Fon answer you, over Fon
Tayong

Danny Boy

Mr. Fon, in a parliamentary democracy, parties present to the electorate their manifestos. This is a detailed document which outlines a party's philosophy and aspirations if elected or not. It is this that the elctorates endorse at the polls. The party that wins power goes ahead and implements what is contained in their manifesto. There is no need to consult with the electorate again for a bill to be tabled.
As for the main opposition parties, theirs will be to check the excesses of the ruling party. They can not table bills, but private member's bill's on some trifle may be tabled. This applies across the board.
Now, can anyone inform on the contents of the SDF manifesto, given that we have legislative elections soon? What is it they intend to deliver when we have voted them in? Power to the people? How archaic. Need I remind anybody that we are in the 21st century?
Reading Tayong's posting above I came across this, "As to the tabling of a bill to demand for complete independence, Fon you must be kidding to make that statement above as a politician of your calibre whom I know in person." As earlier explained above, such a proposition is not feasible for the simple reason that the SDF or any other party that craves regional autonomy has not been given the mandate at the ballot box. I used the phrase " regional autonomy" teasingly. You can equate this to "devolution" which I mentioned earlier. This will be a better pill for our brothers/sisters in La Republique to swallow, not independence.
Think about it fellows. There are many ways to skin a rat!
It is a wonderful world.

Watesih

Tayong,
Instead of us SDF militants celebrating that people like Rexon have shown the world that they don`t have any agenda as far as the SCNC is concerned,and have prefered to animate debates about our dear party,they are the ones rejoicing .Tayong ,don`t be worried by accusations and counter accusations about the SDF.It shows that democracy is alive in the party.You know as i do that Rexon is a disgruntled member of the SDF,so is Rene Dibi.If Rexon doesn`t talk about Fru Ndi what else can he talk about? Tayong anytime you completely disagree with me about the SDF,it means you have missed my message.I don`t brand people,
I brand Rexon to be a Cpdm agent.I have never branded you, Ma Mary ,and many others to be CPDM agents.Rexon is Sn Tita`s mouthpiece here,and Sn Tita works for Muna ,who works for the goverment. I have explained before how.Tayong,i will make this statement clear oncemore,if some apprenti freedom fighters want to reduce the SCNC fight to the level where it will rub shoulders with a political party,then Fru Ndi is going to continue using the language that is meant for political adversaries.If they realise this error,and steer clear of the SDF,they will be spared of the embarrassment of Fru Ndi straight forwardness.
Tayong,when people who are in the Southern Cameroons ,which is still a part of La Republique ,vote for Parliamentarians,they vote for them as National Parliamentarians,not as Southern Cameroons Parliamentarians.Get the facts clear.The Parliament they attend is located in Yaounde the Capital of La Republique.Has the SDF never got Deputies from other parts of the Country apart from the Southern Cameroons? Your answer is as good as mine.
People in the Southern Cameroons are fully aware that the Deputies they are voting are going to La Republiques Parliament.Tayong if people in the Southern Cameroons feel that SDF Parliamentarians do not represent their aspirations,let them give their votes to the Cpdm,that is democracy.At this time the SCNC will not have fellow brothers to hide their weakness behind.
Tayong,i don`t remember ever having stood against the idea that it is unconstitutional to challenge the authenticity of a failed union.Why should it be a topic of debate now? I want people to challenge me on things i kick against,not pick things from left to right.My bone of contention is the scapegoatism that some fellows want to use as a political weapon to make their little voices heard.I shall never fold my arms ,but continue to say no to those who want to hide their weakbones behind the SDF,and pull wool over the eyes of SouthernCameroonians.Forget about the SDF,which is a National party,and play your role of a freedom movement.
Tayong the SDF Mps are not obliged to break the silence about Liberation.They were elected on a platform of National Politics,and have to operate within this framework.When the SCNC carves out a region for us,and subsequently have Mps ,they will not doubt themselves.The SDF statuts do not permit its MPS to go to Parliament,and start talking Liberation. That is the bitter truth,and it shouldn`t be distorted .
Mr Tayong does the Northwest belong to the Bamilikes? Are they any proofs to show that the Northwest is in the grip of the Bamilekes? These are just perceived enemies
that people hang on to ,to allay their fears.You want to fight for autonomy,but you start procrastinating about imaginary enemies.If you are afraid of the Bamilekes,then what would you do to the rest of La Republique ,which is even less friendly to us ?
Tayong, you are absolutely right that not everybody criticising the SDF if a member of the Cpdm.But we have pinpointed agents like Rexon.When we talk about Southern Cameroons here,we don`t years talking about the personal lives of Chief Ayamb, Nfor Ngala Nfor.We don`t go gossipping about the type of clothes their children wear as Rexon has been doing here with people`s family.He`s now chewing hi lips breathlessly trying to lessen the impact his brother`s dinning with the Cpdm has left on the image of his family.Even if his brother militated in the Cpdm in 1980,the impact is the same.This party has been in power for 24 years,and all these 24 years have been deadly.There`s no selective memory of what the Achidi Achus did in 1990 ,and what Rexon`s brother did at that time.
Rexon doesn`t know how to frame the fight here,today he is fighting us who get money to write for Fru Ndi.But he is the one that has been telling the world that SN Tita has been in debts,and ran to Nigeria,only to come back and start creeping behind Muna to solve his financial problems.

M Nje

Hi Tayong,
The reason you take matters like that to the International Court is that it is a depute between two Sovereign States. International Courts have jurisdictions over such cases.

That does not exclude your suggestion that you can still put pressure on La Republique at home while maintaining a case abroad.

Under any normal circumstance, a country must accept the verdicts of any international court that has jurisdiction over a case. The is why Nigeria had to withdraw from Bakassi. There are consequence if a nation tries to ignore such a verdict.

The legal bases of the Southern Cameroons case are so overwhelming that they can state the test of time in any court.

The idea of independence by JOINING was illegal and violated the Trustee agreement. It was imposed by UK.

Then even the constitution arraignment in 1961 was illegal because UK failed to be part of the arraignment in violation of UN charter.

Then the change of structure from Federation to United Republic to Republic just added the illegality. This even in violation of the Federal Constitution

That was clear enough that La Republique was out to annex Southern Cameroons and not take it as an equal partner. Ahmadou Ahidjo probably deserve the fate he got for his role in this annexation.

tayong

Watesih
Insightful but hang on a minúte! We all know where we're coming from, great. But when you say..."Tayong,when people who are in the Southern Cameroons ,which is still a part of La Republique ,vote for Parliamentarians,they vote for them as National Parliamentarians,not as Southern Cameroons Parliamentarians"...

Mr Watesih I like that phrase.We can talk about it. We live out of Cameroon and we all learn from democracies in which we reside. What you've cited above is a total bluder of towing party lines irrespective of the aspiration of the givers of your mandate. Chuck Hagel a devout Republican is at Bush's nerves now because he says ,though a Republican he doesn't support a troop surge in Iraq because opinion polls in his state clearly is against the surge. Does that make him now a Democrat and regionalistic?

Does being a national parliamnentarian alienate you from your base? Difinitely not Watesih. Let's go back to Cameroon. How did Cameroon become a member of the common wealth? Hon Solomon Shu of the CPDM tabled a private member bill in parliament saying that his constituency seriously advocated for Southern Cameroon( or say Cameroon Anglophones) joining the Common wealth. Is this logic not applicable to the SDF MPs and the Liberation question?


As to brandishing others as CPDM pundits that goes to some of your colleagues in here anyway.Watesih , your claim that the SDF is not obliged to break their silence on liberation issue is false. They better do!Prof Kwi came out point blanc on that .More is needed. There's no standing on the fence on this issue Watesih. Remember the desease that attacks coffee might be the same desease that attacks cocoa.

Tayong

rexon

Watesih Wrote:

"We don`t go gossipping about the type of clothes their children wear as Rexon has been doing here with people`s family"

Who told this forum and the Cameroonian people that Muna's son got married and a few people attended in Mbengwi? Wasnt it NJFN? Who told this forum that the people of Ngyen Mbo does not like the Muna's and that Muna does not know the constituency that he will send his candidature to? Wasnt it NJFN. Is that not personal?

It is your SDF that is fond of gossiping and not me. And whenever someone retaliates, you turn to brand him CPDM. Guess what, you will grow up only the day you will stop that your vague sing-song about CPDM agents. When i started this my crusade against the SDF, you and Fon started by begging Ma Mary and others to write personal emails to beg me to leave SDF alone. And when the Ma Mary's ignored you guys nothing that i was writing the truth. You turn to branding me CPDM this or that. Where will you end? You are now exposing your foolishness by saying that NJFN will only stop accusing the SCNC only when some people you brand CPDM agents stop accusing the SDF. How do you reconcile these facts? If i am a CPDM agent as you claim, why should you or NJFN be worried about me? Your answer would be as good as mine. I am not the Mukete's who took money to preach their doctrine. Mine is a fight that might only end when these SDF is wiped out in the Southern Cameroonian political conciousness or when they declare where they belong. Their ideas are contradictory rather than complementary to our Southern Cameroonian struggle and we must educate Southern Cameroonians on that which is my job here.

I have always made it clear to forumnites that the Muna's and Tita's are being manipulated by the CPDM and La Republique. I have always made it clear that it is not different from the way they are manipulating NJFN and the SDF. Both groups are merely colouring la republique as a multiparty democracy to the international community and they are all business entities rather than political parties. You treat my ideas with contempt simply because i am always the first to pick out NJFN's frolics and lies to the Southern Cameroonian people. Ma Mary and Ndiks have always cited clearly my cry here that the SDF is a tool of oppression paid to oppress the Southern Cameroons and colour la republique as a multi-party democracy.

to be continued.....

rexon

Watesih wrote:

"Tayong if people in the Southern Cameroons feel that SDF Parliamentarians do not represent their aspirations,let them give their votes to the Cpdm,that is democracy"

The CPDM give votes to the SDF to colour their parliament as a multi-party democracy and takes Bali-kumbat to portray their presence in all ten provinces. ELECAM has already decided which areas will go to NJFN and this SDF will still do its thing of colouring la republique as a multi-party democracy.

Get it clear, the Southern Cameroonian people stopped voting since 1992.

Fon

Danny Boy,
I like your approach and the issues raised. However,
"Now, can anyone inform on the contents of the SDF manifesto, given that we have legislative elections soon? What is it they intend to deliver when we have voted them in?"
Of course during campaigns you will definitely know the SDF manisfesto. In politics,individuals within the same political party may have different convictions, hence there is always the need to harmonise before going public. When the SDF will harmonise, you will know their manisfesto. However it will not be so different from the one of the past. To say the SDF Manisfesto is simply "power to the people" is an overstatement from a dishonest mind intended to diparage that great party.

Concerning the issue of tabling bills in parliament, I think it is a question of semantics. The point I and Tayong was making is that the MPs serve as the mouthpiece of those that they represent in parliament and should represent them according to their wishes.
As you said the manisfesto is usually presented to the electorate during campaigns. Usually that manisfesto is the one the will attract the support of the electorate and that is just what the SDF has been doing
Mr Njie
"What bill are you guys talking about. The SDF does not support the Independence of Southern Cameroons"
Our chairman has made it clear many times that he draws his inspiration, that his strength comes from grass root militants and that he is serving the people and not the people serving him. So concerning your worry I am confident the chairman will always dance to the tune of the militants that give him the power.

tayong

Njie
My old friend. Here is the point Im trying to make eventhough not a legal expert. For the decision of any court to have a legal bearing on La Republique , such a court must at least have some ratifications from La Republique. Take for instance, Fon Dinka Ndikum won a case in one of the courts of one state in Nigeria against La Repubilque's occupation of Southern Cameroon. That sounded like a child's play.

On the other hand parliamentarians from Zanzibar took their govt(Tanzania) to the Constitutuonal council for violating the constitution and later on, based on such , declared their independence. This had a dramatic turn in the country, the UN was alerted and many other organisations were.

Imagine such a scenario in Cameroon. Imagine the huge attention it will draw from the world if only a bill is tabled allerging violation of the Laws of Union that brought La Republique and Southrn Cameroon together.Remember Ahidjo said at the UN in 1959 ...." no decision will be imposed on Southern Cameroon by shear weight of numbers"....

There's a solid legal base to initiate a case against La Republique at The Constitutuonal Council.Thats the way I see it. That will bring La Republique to talk.
Tayong

Klemenceau-Shalom

Some people think that the SCNC has not been able to achieve its goal because of the presence of the SDF. They forget to know that without the SDF, other Southern Cameroonians in the Biya government are staunch CPDM members and Biya will at anytime use them to form political parties in the Southern Cameroon.
According to Rexon, Fru Ndi/ is more of a danger than the Inoni's, Achidi's, Muna's Ngolle Ngolle and so on. Instead of fighting those who help Biya to kill innocent Southern Cameroonians, you turn your attention on Fru Ndi.
As Rexon rightly said, he started his crusade and has got followers. Good. Let's see how Southern Cameroon will regain her independence through your crusade.
Rexon, as an SCNC advocate, you are supposed to have many irons in the fire. But your take on the SDF is an indication that you seems to lack direction and strategy.
I earlier asked you a series of questions which you promised to respond to. I'm still waiting for your answers. Just one of them as reminder; Can the SCNC succeed without Fru Ndi and the SDF?
Southern Cameroonians need action not this talk every day. Have we been able to ask ourselves why a few gendarmes were able to maltreat SCNC leaders while a hundreds of Southern Cameroonians were watching? The power to this liberation struggle is suppose to come from the man on the street and most importantly the grassroots. We should sensitize the local population if we really want to succeed.
Rexon if you think that by attacking Fru Ndi and the SDF on the internet, you will educate Southern Cameroonians and let them turn to the SCNC, you will be fooling yourself. Ask yourself why? You know as I know that Cameroon is really "advanced as far the internet is concerned". (Understand before you respond) So the people will get your message indeed.
We can't be wasting out time on the net when the people who can help foster this liberation struggle don't even know what is going on. Most don't even have access to the internet. Let's think again and make good of our time as far as this liberation struggle is concerned.
Shalom
Klemenceau

rexon

Klemenceau,

You have spoken and that is the kind of advise i like to get. Not this sing-song about Rexon being CPDM agents.

Secondly, you should know that we have different avenues to express our views. While the average Cameroonian in the country does not visit the net, Ayamba and Co are educating them. On the other hand, most of us including myself work on the net so we still can educate others through this medium.

As an answer to your question, the Southern Cameroons can still succeed without NJFN and one way of doing it is to fight him and all the other agents whom you have described above. The difference between him and the other agents is that, while we knew before where the other agents were standing, it was untill recently that we knew where he was standing esspecially when Ndiks started directing us to those comments of his through Eden radio. So we know now clearly that he is not different from the CPDM agents (Inoni and co) that you cited above and that justifies why i started this crusade against him.

Thank you brother.

rexon

Sorry for the misinformation there. Just contacted my SCNC/SCYL agents and they reminded me that the paid agents are living in the following places:

Fon-Germany not USA as posted above.

Watesih- China not USA.

Atangha- Yaounde SDF secretariat Employee.

Thank you guys.

Danny Boy

Mr, Fon,
a party that has been existence for almost two decades should have some core values that activists like you should spout, at will. I am ashamed at your insinuations that mine "is an overstatement from a dishonest mind intended to diparage that great party". I ask again, what are the political philosophy and aspirations of the SDF party? These should be the core values of the party. Do you know them or are you just one of the foot soldiers of this party?
Disparage a great party? No, my membership card is within the first 200 hundredth! I crossed the carpet from CNU/CPDM to SDF at the inception of this party. I was in Bamenda on the day the party was launched. Your insinuation is but an insult. "We live to learn", is the consoling thought, don't you think?
When I lived in Bamenda, in Azire, we used to argue in to the small hours of the morning. Many a time I would be asked if we could all go to Ntarikon and discuss with the National Chairman. My answer was always no, because my partner had become tired of the country and wanted us to return to the UK.
Mr. Fon, I have lived in the UK for almost thirty years, discounting the few years I spent in Cameroon.I have always lived here in LOndon and I have always gone out campaigning on the Labour Manifesto. A manifesto prepared well in advance, irrespective of elections coming.
What are you guys of the SDF harmonising? Some of what I am saying today is not different from my advice in the early 90,s cher Pa komenta in Azire. Your best chance today is to fight for devolution.That is the way forward.
Mr. Fon, maybe you wanted to know, now you know. Can I count you in?
Mine is a party for progressive modernism. What do you say?

tayong

Danny boy
Devolution.Swallowable idea to La Repubilque indeed! But you know what , my good friend? Devolution will play well into the hands of bad faith administrators. Devolution, the moving of power or responsibility from a main organization to a lower level, or from a central government to a regional government. Thats exactly what the 1996 promised . The same book with a different cover Danny boy.

They will simply play the ostrich role again in such a system. Now they dont call it devolution as that sounds abit weird to "Les Repuliquains"but they call it decentralisation to give it a palatable form.

If these guys aren't held hard to stand by the words sworn by Ahidjo in 1959 we'll still remain who/where we're in this system.
Dont get me wrong Danny, laudable idea but in my opinion it has loopholes.
Cheers countryman. I didnt know you were SDF.
Tayong

Danny Boy

Mr. Tayong, I have always been SDF and will remain committed to this party until kingdom come, despite my reservations. I have the previledge of comparing the exercise of politics in two different milieux. If I ask for the publication of the SDF's manifesto for all to see, it is because I believe we are the only party in the country with a progressive agenda. It is for the strategists of this body to tell the electorate what this agenda is, not when elections are coming up, but day in day out. Wishes of the people? did I hear somebody ask! This is not a chicken an egg situation. You consult the people first and then you come up with the political solutions to their wishes.
I am tired of listening to angst-ridden rabble whose battlecry is " power to the people". What power? What people?
I see Fon has chickened out. "Power to the people" would be a battlecry, not a manifesto. Do I make myself understandable without you insinuating further?
Mr. Fon, mine is a civil tongue.
Mr. Tayong, I am pleased to know that you believe we can sell them devolution. As I said there are many ways to skin a rat. I live here in the UK. The Scottish have never been happy with the act of Union. Today they have their assembly and with it some autonomy. These are but the first steps to independence. Mark my words.
It is a wonderful world.

M Nje

Tayong,
I like the Chuck Hagel analogy. The is no doubt he is a nightmare to Bush.

Did you hear what he said the other day at the foreign relation committee in response to a senator’s concern that the bill him and Biden proposed should not be voted on.

He said something like “sure this is tough business if you want a secure job good sell shoes.” Apparently the senator was afraid to vote.

M Nje

Tayong,
You many have a point concerning filling a case with the constitutional court. My fear about La Republique is that the court is under the control of the executive. I wonder if they can independently look at the facts of a case.

I think the case at the African Courts in Banjul is suppose to do just that.

Fon
“I am confident the chairman will always dance to the tune of the militants that give him the power.”

Fon that is how representative democracy works. You represent the aspiration of your electorate. One way to understand the aspirations of your electorate is to conduct an opinion pull of your base.
Here is the point where we disagree. Concerning the issue you guys where taking about : tabling a bill to demand for complete independence. Are you sure that a majority of your electorate in Southern Cameroons share the same view as that of your chairman: maintaining a unitary state. If we conduct a poll of your electorate will a majority share his view. If not then there is a gap somewhere: he may not be dancing to their tune. It comes down to what I said earlier: many people vote individuals not platforms.

Fon

Dannyboy
"I see Fon has chickened out."
I have been caught up with other imperatives. I am missing participation in the discusion. With you and M.Nje around the discusion is indeed interesting. It is not the kind of tedium from that fellow call Rexon who has no sense of direction. Will be joining you guys later.

Watesih

Tayong,
My man,i expantiated on that statement .That the SDF statuts give no allowance for its Mps to preach Liberation.So if i say they are elected as National Mps,i mean first and foremost they are going into a Parliament that represents one country.This does not however bar them from championing their various regional issues.This is more the reason the SDF has been calling for a Federation.So get it clear,they are voted by Southern Cameroonians themselves,to represent their regional aspirations in one Parliament.How can these Southern Cameroonians be giving people a mandate to deliberate on National issues,and at the same time giving them mandate to preach Liberation? Tayong you are quite smart,and know they would not have their cake and eat it in such a situation.
Tayong,the SDF has no answers to answer when it comes to Liberation.The party is a National one,and registered under the Laws of National politics.In no way should it start challenging its National character to heed to calls from people who have never done anything that will give sleepless nights to Biya.The SDF is Biya`s bednoire, and the SCNC is not,because it is proving to be a gathering of people that should be venerated for factional wrangling.The position of the SDF is clear,and has always been clear,federation so people should take their destinies into their hands.The SCNC came into existence when the SDF was already existing,and the SDF helped in its difficult birth.How can the SCNC turn around today and start posing question to the SDF about the existence the SDF helped to mould.
Tayong,by accepting to be an Adviser in the SCNC,Fru Ndi had already made the SDF statement about the SCNC.The statement is that they are two different bodies,and that the SCNC should take its fate into its hands
,and forget about the SDF.Here are we today ,more than ten years after,and the SCNC is still asking the SDF to help define its existence for her.Pitiful!

Rexon,
You know as i do that i have not be involved in branding people as Cpdm,but since you are so mad about this idea,we should maybe look at some of the things that make you a Cpdm agent:
1. You are very gossipy.You`ve always given
information here about the families of Southern Cameroonians.You can name them;
Titanji,Fru Ndi,Eric Chinje,and many others.
But you never released enough information about your own brother who dines with the Cpdm ,until we squeazed two days ago.
2. Just like Mukete,you are very vindictive.
You write all sorts of nasty things about people here,but when you are branded a Cpdm agent,you spend sleeples nights trying to find out the whereabouts of contributors on this forum.This shows that if you had a way,you will be a danger to their lives,or what is the relationship betwwen the countries we live in and the truth we say about you.
3. Just like your Cpdm godheads,you have been involved in racketeering there in London,and helped to repatriate Southern Cameroonians to go and meet the killing machine of La Republique you pretend to fight against.How can you live safely in London,and repatriate poor Southern Cameroonians to go and face death?
4. You want to use Cpdm tactics of scapegoatism,and shouting down your political enemies.Even when you know that Sn Tita is wrong to have put on the outfit of a freedom fighter ,but strangely finds himself in the SDF that you say is legitimising the evil of La Republique,you defend him and try hard to make others blind to this terible shame.This is intellectual dishonesty,and you can only survive with people from the dark age not us.Sn Tita is a member of Muna`s SDF ,and you say the SDF is legitimising the evil rule of La Republique,
but you ask Southern Cameroonians to leave him alone,because he has his own problems.
How can a freedom fighter condone favouritism like this? Here you:" Pa has his
own concerns and weaknesses that must be moderated,but he is not a sell out" ( Rexon,Jan 16 2007). Really? Rexon your Pa is not a sell out? From the Scnc to the SDF that you accuse of legitimising La Republique`s grip on Sountern Cameroonians.
Mr freedom fighter ,how can you turn a blind eye to your brother`s romance with the cpdm,and your Pa `s antics with Muna`s La Republique`s SDF?

M Nje

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